| --- | Log | opened Fri Jun 01 00:00:03 2012 |
| --- | Day | changed Fri Jun 01 2012 |
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| 00:34 | <grimx> | For some reason I can only tether my phone if i reboot with it already plugged in ..... |
| 00:34 | <grimx> | otherwise it fails to setup. |
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| 00:45 | <tgs3> | hi |
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| 00:46 | <tgs3> | I builded (patched a bit) kernel 3.2.18, Im on debian stable. should I install the created kernel's linux-libc-...deb as well or just the .deb's of kernel image&headers? |
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| 00:48 | <itamar_> | ola |
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| 00:49 | <Newbumz> | Hi, I don't IRC much anymore just checking the pulse of the community. Is linux still at war with MS or did that all die off and the community is back to focusing on hardware? |
| 00:49 | <itamar_> | ok |
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| 00:59 | <Newbumz> | So most of my IT overlords feel that all forms of Linux are dead. And in the past year or so I have had trouble coming up with arguments as to the opposite. I want to maintain our BIND server and internal webhost on this platform but am running out of excuses not to virtualize on windows 2008. |
| 01:03 | <Newbumz> | I am a bit drunk so I guess more then anything I probably am looking for jargon rather than the technical. I can sort that out later. |
| 01:05 | <bones_was_here> | if you're working for windows zealots, there's probably two options: put up with it because you're paid to, or work somewhere else |
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| 01:06 | <Newbumz> | I understand that opinion, I have seen it many times on slashdot. I feel my organization though does respond to realistic reasoning for one choice over another. I am just failing to prove my points. |
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| 01:08 | <bones_was_here> | well if they're using an entirely microsoft setup except for your bind and webserver, then you would naturally have a hard time making a case, especially if they also have lots of windows admins who only know point & click or cmd.exe |
| 01:10 | <bones_was_here> | microsoft put a hell of a lot of money into integrating the common components of networks and putting a nice gui in front of that |
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| 01:11 | <Newbumz> | <sigh> Yes you are right. I can't argue this fact. |
| 01:12 | <bones_was_here> | also, most businesses could work using nearly any modern operating system - they all have web servers and file sharing and a user database and and and |
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| 01:13 | <bones_was_here> | businesses tend to select free software when they are building their own custom systems and want to be able to modify the code to any part of it |
| 01:13 | <bones_was_here> | or when they have an ideology that demands it (rare) |
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| 01:15 | <Newbumz> | Our case at the moment being lack of accountability however the budget has plenty of room to higher knowledgeable staff vs licences. That is the crux. |
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| 01:16 | <Newbumz> | Comma comma hire comma |
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| 01:17 | <chealer> | tgs3: it depends on what you need to do |
| 01:18 | <bones_was_here> | your company is probably not large enough or innovative enough to 'need' to use free software - unless you're google, amazon, facebook, etc - you can just buy the shrink wrapped product and call it close enough |
| 01:19 | <bones_was_here> | but obviously google would be hammering square pegs into round holes if they tried to base their products on MS AD :P |
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| 01:20 | <bones_was_here> | good luck finding a company who cares about vendor lock in or ms's evil business tactics... |
| 01:22 | <Newbumz> | I am trying to think of how to put this other than saying I work for a government organization. |
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| 01:23 | <biglinux> | Hi... |
| 01:23 | <Newbumz> | Change as always is happening within this organization and I wish for many of our systems to remain legacy because they do not fail as much as their windows counterparts. |
| 01:23 | <bones_was_here> | ofc if your boss is telling you 'linux is dead', all he's really telling you is that his industry knowledge is painfully lacking, or that he's really closed minded, or something like that |
| 01:24 | <biglinux> | Please, visit my webpage: www.leandrotelesrocha.tk thanks... |
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| 01:25 | <biglinux> | Please, visit my homepage: www.leandrotelesrocha.tk :) thanks... !!!! |
| 01:25 | <retrospectacus> | biglinux: no. go away |
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| 01:27 | <bones_was_here> | Newbumz: if you can demonstrate a real reliability difference, perhaps you can get somewhere by focussing on that (but rather than going with terms like 'legacy', promote upgrading to more modern *nix systems) |
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| 01:28 | <bones_was_here> | all the important buzzwords can still be used |
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| 01:45 | <riv> | once i look up a program in synaptic, how do i know which of the many files that may be there to select for installation? |
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| 01:47 | <tgs3> | chealer: it worked with libc installed |
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| 02:10 | <kenifanying> | Hi all, I am running debian squeeze. I want to connect to a wifi router that protected by wpa/wpa2 psk ,but it's passward only has five characters. I know it's strange because it seems that wpa/wpa2 psk require at least 8 characters but I have no rights to change the wifi router in my lab. I try to connect it via Network-Manager, but when I enter the passward, I can't click the "connect" button under Network-Manager . I have tried to stop Network-Ma |
| 02:10 | <kenifanying> | nager and edit /etc/network/interfaces and put this line into it ( see http://paste.debian.net/172311/ ), then sudo ifup wlan0, but I can't get ip address, see http://paste.debian.net/172312/ . there are some information about the wifi, the ouput " sudo iwlist wlan0 scan" see http://paste.debian.net/172313/ , I can connect to this wifi under windows and Iphone, but not success under debian and android. any suggestion? Sorry , I am not good at writing |
| 02:10 | <kenifanying> | English! |
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| 02:22 | <sary> | Salutation. |
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| 02:26 | <gnugr> | kenifanying:be sure you have wireless-tools installed, also pastebin your lspci so we can see if you want firmaware for wifi you might need |
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| 02:27 | <gnugr> | s/firmware/firmaware |
| 02:27 | <kenifanying> | gnugr, Yeah, I have wireless-tools and firmaware installed. I can connect to many wifi routers( wep, wpa/wpa2 etc)^ |
| 02:28 | <kenifanying> | gnugr, But I can't connect to this wifi router ( wpa/wpa2 protected but it's passward only has five characters) |
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| 02:31 | <gnugr> | kenifanying:it asking you for 2 passwds, first your root passwd and 2nd your routers passwd |
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| 02:32 | <kenifanying> | gnugr, what? why wifi router will ask my root passwd ? |
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| 02:32 | <retrospectacus> | . |
| 02:33 | <gnugr> | your system needs permission to proceed |
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| 02:35 | <cbm> | i want to do something like: if ASCII{mv * to someplace} |
| 02:35 | <cbm> | how can i possibly do that |
| 02:35 | <cbm> | i want to use bash or whatever thing |
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| 02:37 | <jm_> | what is "if ASCII"? |
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| 02:46 | <grepper> | I just switched from unstable 32-bit to squeeze amd64, and no longer have working sensors. sensors-detect doesn't find any. I was using core-temp and it87 with "force_id=0x8721" in the 32 bit install (same machine) neither of which work now. Any ideas ? |
| 02:47 | <hellfire> | well that sucks, what have you tried so far? |
| 02:48 | <hellfire> | i would suggest purging the current package and reinstalling the x64 version |
| 02:48 | <jm_> | grepper: are you using 64bit kernel now? |
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| 02:50 | <jm_> | ok that's a stupid qusetion - more important would be - is the kernel version the same? |
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| 02:52 | <grepper> | jm, no, but 2.6 series kernels worked fine in past with 32-bit. Used 3.1 I think on 32-bit, 2.6.32-5-amd64 now |
| 02:53 | <grepper> | considered upgrading to 3.x kernel, but didn't make sense as 2.6.32 ish worked fine on 32-bit |
| 02:53 | <jm_> | grepper: check what kernel says when you load the modules -- you can find 3.2 on backports |
| 02:53 | <grepper> | may do so anyway if no one has any ideas |
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| 02:54 | <grepper> | FATAL: Error inserting coretemp (/lib/modules/2.6.32-5-amd64/kernel/drivers/hwmon/coretemp.ko): No such device |
| 02:54 | <jm_> | that usually means the coretemp module doesn't have support for your CPU |
| 02:54 | <jm_> | so a newer kernel makes sense |
| 02:54 | <grepper> | [52793.315725] coretemp: Unknown CPU model 2a |
| 02:54 | <jm_> | right ;) |
| 02:55 | <grepper> | why it worked with 32-bit I wonder ... |
| 02:55 | <grepper> | with older kernel - guess the 32-bit version of the module has different support ? |
| 02:56 | <jm_> | it's the same code, are you sure you used the same kernel versions previously? |
| 02:56 | <grepper> | hm |
| 02:58 | <grepper> | 2.6.32-trunk-686 according to an old menu.lst I have on the 32-bit partition still, removed awhile back |
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| 03:00 | <jm_> | so that was probably newer |
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| 03:02 | <grepper> | well, trying out the 3.x kernel from backports is my next step, doesn't seem to be other options |
| 03:02 | <grepper> | thanks for listening |
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| 03:03 | <jm_> | no worries |
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| 03:06 | <DebianLover> | using this tar cps --same-owner --atime-preserv -f archive.tar -C /home/user/Downloads |
| 03:06 | <DebianLover> | i get this error |
| 03:06 | <DebianLover> | tar: Cowardly refusing to create an empty archive |
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| 03:07 | <DebianLover> | what's wrong? |
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| 03:08 | <soap> | есть руские? |
| 03:09 | <retrospectacus> | DebianLover: you haven't given any files/directorys to put in the tarball |
| 03:09 | <jm_> | !ru |
| 03:09 | <dpkg> | Это английскоговорящий канал, пожалуйста, говорите по-английски или посетите #debian-russian (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian) |
| 03:10 | <jm_> | --same-owner and --atime-preserv are relevant for -x only anyway |
| 03:10 | <DebianLover> | retrospectacus: thanks |
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| 03:32 | <grepper> | the dkms build of the nvidia module failed for the 3.2 kernel. Where is the log kept ? |
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| 03:35 | <jm_> | use nvidia from backports and you shall be fine, log is in /var/lib/dkms/nvidia/kernel-foo/log |
| 03:36 | <grepper> | ah, I see, thanks |
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| 03:48 | <grepper> | jm_: sorry, now I'm not sure what you mean about installing nvidia from backports. Which package in particular ? |
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| 03:51 | <jm_> | grepper: start with nvidia-kernel-dkms, nvidia-kernel-common |
| 03:51 | <grepper> | says they are most current version |
| 03:51 | <jm_> | you'll also want nvidia-glx of course |
| 03:51 | <jm_> | !bat |
| 03:51 | <dpkg> | In order for us to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: The complete output of your apt-get/aptitude/dselect run (including the command you used); the output from apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2...; for the relevant packages and "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 03:52 | <grepper> | using -t squeeze-backports |
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| 03:52 | <jm_> | ok so you already have them then, dpkg -s ... will confirm |
| 03:53 | <jm_> | should be version 280.13.really.275.36-1~bpo60+2 |
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| 03:56 | <grepper> | okay, didn't have non-free in s-bp line in sources.list |
| 03:56 | <sary> | Is it just me getting th error '404 not found' http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/wheezy_di_alpha1/i386/bt-cd/ |
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| 03:58 | <grepper> | heh, needed contrib too |
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| 04:02 | <grepper> | sweet, built fine. Time for a reboot. Thanks a bunch so far. |
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| 04:25 | <periko> | ola! |
| 04:26 | <Aledecai> | helloo |
| 04:26 | <Aledecai> | entry in www.loscrafteadores.blogspot.com |
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| 04:27 | <Aledecai> | Hello pungi man |
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| 05:17 | <freedom> | if install package A, A trigger B, the dpkg trigger will be processed after A's posinst? |
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| 05:21 | <nevyn> | it depends |
| 05:21 | <nevyn> | (BOOM TISH!) |
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| 06:36 | <lloyd_> | hi again |
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| 06:39 | <apjaevel> | im trying to connect from the command line without using dhcp, but cant get it to work. any feedback and/or pointers much appreciated. "nameserver 192.168.2.1" is in /etc/resolv.conf and I issue commands: ifconfig wlan0 192.168.2.11 netmask 255.255.255.0 up | route add default gateway 192.168.2.1 |
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| 06:41 | <apjaevel> | can't even ping my router on 192.168.2.1, so obviously missing something important. |
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| 06:50 | <JackShephard> | i ha ve this error kate: cannot connect to X server :0.0 |
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| 06:55 | <firdaus> | hi, l have error "A package failed to install. Trying to recover " |
| 06:55 | <firdaus> | it look while l install mysql-server in sid |
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| 07:01 | <firdaus> | hi anyone here |
| 07:02 | <jm_> | firdaus: check the topic to find out which channel is for sid |
| 07:02 | <firdaus> | what is channel Debian sid ? |
| 07:02 | <JackShephard> | jm: |
| 07:03 | <jm_> | JackShephard: isn't the error obvious? |
| 07:03 | <jm_> | from topic -- wheezy/sid: #debian-next (irc.oftc.net) |
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| 07:04 | <JackShephard> | what i do? |
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| 07:04 | <jm_> | explain the problem in more details |
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| 07:04 | <JackShephard> | kate: cannot connect to X server :0.0 |
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| 07:06 | <jm_> | that's the same as you have already shown - provide more details - how are you starting it, is X server running, which user for both, ... |
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| 07:08 | <JackShephard> | What should I do to use kate or dolphin as root?Annulla modifiche |
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| 07:08 | <jm_> | why do you want it run as root? you can use sux |
| 07:09 | <jm_> | !runstuffasroot |
| 07:09 | <dpkg> | "export XAUTHORITY=$HOME/.Xauthority" in your environment BEFORE you su, DO NOT use "su -" because that blows away your variable setting above. See also <root x><sux>, <sshx>, <mit-magic-cookie>. |
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| 07:10 | <JackShephard> | sux command not found |
| 07:10 | <jm_> | !install it |
| 07:10 | <dpkg> | Your box does not come with every application, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. If someone suggests an application to you, it's highly likely that it's available via apt-get or aptitude. |
| 07:12 | <JackShephard> | what pack i would install? |
| 07:12 | <dannys> | sux |
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| 07:14 | <grove> | !tell JackShephard about search |
| 07:17 | <JackShephard> | i have install sux. but how i see, for example, /etc/apt/sources.list.. with sux kate /etc/apt/soruces.list? |
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| 07:20 | <jm_> | sux - |
| 07:21 | <JackShephard> | sux kate /etc/apt/sources.list donìt work |
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| 07:22 | <jm_> | or sux - root command |
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| 07:23 | <supaman> | JackShephard: I have never used sux myself, but I don't think thats how it is used, I htink you issue sux - root as a command and wait for the prompt to reappear and then issue kate /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 07:44 | <c31r2g> | zC how did you configure that theme thing |
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| 08:46 | <ville> | where on ubuntu studio can i find what type is my os, 32bit or 64bit? |
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| 08:47 | <grove> | !ubuntu |
| 08:47 | <dpkg> | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>. |
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| 08:48 | <directX> | someone help me |
| 08:48 | <grove> | And in a shell you can find the answer with `dpkg --print-architecture` (on a real debian at least, I have no idea if ubuntu f*cked with dpkg) |
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| 08:49 | <directX> | someone help me |
| 08:49 | <grove> | !tell directX about ask |
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| 08:49 | <directX> | can i paste here |
| 08:49 | <grove> | !tell directX about paste |
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| 08:50 | <directX> | acctualy i want to crack wep |
| 08:50 | <directX> | but not working |
| 08:50 | <directX> | im using python wifite.py |
| 08:51 | <themill> | directX: this channel is for debian user support. |
| 08:52 | <directX> | after i`m select the target exp : 2 .... |
| 08:52 | <directX> | ops...wrong place |
| 08:52 | <directX> | sory all |
| 08:52 | <directX> | but i think u all can help me |
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| 09:10 | <Glarbex> | Hello, it seems that my sound card is not being detected in my new Debian squeeze installation. alsactl init gives "alsactl: init:1743: No soundcards found...". In lspci it shows up just as "00:1b.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:1e20] (rev 04)". Kernel version is 2.6.32-5-amd64. |
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| 10:35 | <doriano> | ciao a tutti |
| 10:36 | <AnAnt_> | Hello, how can I find out if my laptop would support 64-bit OS ? |
| 10:36 | <amphi_> | ciao |
| 10:36 | <doriano> | qualcuno sa come scaricare su irc cn ubuntu??? |
| 10:36 | <towo`> | AnAnt_, check the cpu-specs |
| 10:36 | <towo`> | !ubuntu |
| 10:36 | <dpkg> | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>. |
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| 10:37 | <AnAnt_> | towo`: I am looking at /proc/cpuinfo, but I can't get a clue there |
| 10:37 | <towo`> | grep lm /pric/cpuinfo |
| 10:37 | <towo`> | grep lm /proc/cpuinfo |
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| 10:38 | <AnAnt_> | towo`: it is in flags |
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| 10:38 | <AnAnt_> | what's that lm ? |
| 10:39 | <amphi_> | AnAnt_: 'long mode' if I recall correctly |
| 10:39 | <towo`> | sure |
| 10:39 | <towo`> | and it sayes, you can use 64bit |
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| 10:40 | <Spge> | anyone else not able to connct to freenode.net server? saying im bannded temporarily cause of filtering problems. |
| 10:41 | <Spge> | what does that mean? |
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| 10:42 | <cbm> | what is the advantage of debian really? i want to know. it just little hard to configure comparing to ubuntu or mint... |
| 10:43 | <AnAnt_> | cbm: I am an Ubuntu user, I'd say Debian is lighter |
| 10:43 | <towo`> | the really advantage is, without it, there would be any ubuntu |
| 10:44 | <towo`> | *would not |
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| 10:45 | <chealer> | !tell cbm about why debian |
| 10:46 | <cbm> | it is real confusing that ubuntu is not compatible with debian |
| 10:46 | <towo`> | tell it to ubuntu |
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| 10:46 | <towo`> | that's not the fault of debian |
| 10:46 | <cbm> | or any another linux distors why not compatible ??? |
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| 10:47 | <Spge> | ubuntu becoming it's own thing. like child leaving house. |
| 10:47 | <cbm> | i just write some code and it should run any place |
| 10:47 | <el_anonymous> | hy |
| 10:47 | <el_anonymous> | hy |
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| 10:49 | <cbm> | don't misunderstand me, i am just wondering why they can make it not compatible? |
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| 10:56 | <Apollo> | cbm: all linux distributions are compatible as long as they run on the same platform |
| 10:56 | <Apollo> | this means you can compile and distribute 1 binary for all those systems |
| 10:56 | <Apollo> | the biggest difference is the inner workings, and the packaging system |
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| 11:03 | <towo`> | [16:56] <Apollo> this means you can compile and distribute 1 binary for all those systems <== that's not true |
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| 11:05 | <AnAnt_> | cbm: the code would most probably run, it justs needs to be recompiled |
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| 11:22 | <fugitivecoast> | Hi, I was wondering if anyone might be able to help me with an issue I am having with wine. I am trying to run leagueOfLegends and when I check on the winehq it says it should run. I keep getting an error where it says : [VGL] ERROR: Could not open display :8. |
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| 11:32 | <Apollo> | towo`: why would it be false? |
| 11:32 | <Apollo> | I just did |
| 11:33 | <Apollo> | I compilled a binary, it ran in 4 different OSea |
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| 11:33 | <towo`> | this only will work with simple apps |
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| 11:34 | <Apollo> | nope |
| 11:34 | <towo`> | cplexer apps, which need tons of shared libs, will not run |
| 11:34 | <Apollo> | compile statically |
| 11:34 | <Apollo> | or install the library |
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| 11:34 | <towo`> | librarys differ |
| 11:35 | <Apollo> | that doesnt mean the binary needs to be recompiled |
| 11:35 | <Apollo> | on linux? |
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| 11:35 | <Apollo> | like hell they dont |
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| 11:36 | <Apollo> | you wont be able to compile something if you dont have the prerequirements |
| 11:37 | <Apollo> | same goes for running |
| 11:37 | <Apollo> | thats not OS related |
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| 11:38 | <Apollo> | an application compiled for debian wont run on another debian if the prerequirements arent met |
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| 11:50 | <dannys> | !paste |
| 11:50 | <dpkg> | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
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| 11:50 | <dannys> | !pastebinit |
| 11:50 | <dpkg> | pastebinit is a command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>; convenient if you don't have a graphical interface. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | pastebinit". See also <pastebinit config>, <nopaste>. |
| 11:52 | <anbe> | !tell dannys -about msg the bot |
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| 11:56 | <Nik05> | hey guys |
| 11:57 | <Nik05> | I have 2 business iso's of debian stable |
| 11:57 | <Nik05> | does someone know how i get those 2 on a flash stick and be able to boot them both? |
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| 11:58 | <Nik05> | do i need GRUB for that or some other bootloader? |
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| 11:59 | <chealer> | Nik05: did you read the installation manual? |
| 11:59 | <Nik05> | uh :p |
| 12:00 | <Nik05> | its not really about installing debian |
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| 12:00 | <Nik05> | more about getting 2 installers bootable on 1 usb flash |
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| 12:01 | <grove> | I think the installation manuals section on preparing a usb stick answers what bootloader you need, and it's probably quite easily adaptable to your situation |
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| 12:07 | <chealer> | Nik05: you don't boot a businesscard directly on a USB stick. you boot fomr boot.img |
| 12:07 | <chealer> | s/fomr/from/ |
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| 12:17 | <berarma> | hi, a quick question, how could I open a terminal session on a machine using NAT without port-forwarding? |
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| 12:17 | <berarma> | the connection should be started on the other end |
| 12:18 | <Guest2288> | hwdp |
| 12:18 | <retrospectacus> | berarma: man ssh, search for -R |
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| 12:19 | <retrospectacus> | berarma: you'll end up with something like ssh -g -R2022:localhost:22 |
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| 12:19 | <Nik05> | ok thanks grove |
| 12:20 | <Nik05> | euh chealer i dont need boot.img to boot businesscard |
| 12:20 | <berarma> | retrospectacus: many thanks! I guessed it would be with ssh but didn't find it |
| 12:20 | <Nik05> | when i do cat debianbusinesscard > /dev/sdb |
| 12:20 | <Nik05> | it works |
| 12:20 | <berarma> | retrospectacus: "-g" seems important too, thanks |
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| 12:21 | <retrospectacus> | it would allow others (you) to connect to port 2022 on the "middle" if you need that |
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| 12:22 | <retrospectacus> | it may or may not be necessary |
| 12:22 | <chealer> | Nik05: the simple method is to put a small boot.img which handles booting |
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| 12:22 | <Nik05> | ok |
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| 12:34 | <Nik05> | ok boot.img has syslinux |
| 12:34 | <Nik05> | the debian installer iso's have isolinux on them |
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| 13:31 | <ac_slater> | hey everyone, whats the best way to host a .deb on my network (I want other machines to pull it via apt to retrieve the deps) |
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| 13:35 | <jackyf> | make a repository from it |
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| 13:37 | <ac_slater> | jackyf, from it? |
| 13:38 | <themill> | !own repo |
| 13:38 | <dpkg> | To feed your own packages into apt, you need to create a repository with a Packages file that lists the packages that are available. If you only have a few packages and don't have very sophisticated requirements, you can make your own repo with <dpkg-scanpackages>. If you want to be able add/remove packages using regular Debian tools like dput then try <reprepro> or mini-dinstall. See http://wiki.debian.org/HowToSetupADebianRepository |
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| 13:42 | <ac_slater> | themill, thanks |
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| 14:19 | <AlexLikeRock> | hola GENTE ! ! !! |
| 14:19 | <AlexLikeRock> | hi people ! ! ! |
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| 14:25 | <ayuba> | hello |
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| 14:36 | <pfrost> | does anyone know where top, sar, and so on get their cpu utilization numbers? Is there a file in /proc or /sys maybe that exposes the underlying counters? |
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| 14:38 | <supaman> | pfrost: you mean load average? |
| 14:39 | <supaman> | that is /proc/loadavg |
| 14:39 | <pfrost> | no, i mean the cpu util percentages |
| 14:39 | <pfrost> | sar -p |
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| 14:41 | <pfrost> | found it.../proc/stat |
| 14:41 | <pfrost> | maybe they could have picked a more general name |
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| 14:50 | <vay> | need to see when a certain user logged in last. is the cmd "last" the only way to do it? |
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| 15:31 | <electro> | hola |
| 15:31 | <electro> | ola |
| 15:31 | <electro> | a |
| 15:31 | <electro> | a |
| 15:31 | <electro> | a |
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| 15:48 | <DennisTheTiger> | I am attempting to netinst squeeze onto an old IBM Eserver (i386 build), but every time I attempt to install, it freezes. Symptom I have is this - during attempt to install libc6 from the disc, the system starts throwing what appears to be SMART errors - which is weird, since it's from sr0 (the optical drive). I've tried different media and different drives to no avail - same symptoms. What should I try next, short of defenestrating this |
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| 15:55 | <ompaul> | DennisTheTiger: cat some.iso > /dev/usbwhateverkey and boot and install from that |
| 15:55 | <ompaul> | DennisTheTiger: also check the disk as in ask it to self test |
| 15:55 | <ompaul> | do an md5sum first |
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| 15:57 | <damiano_> | ciao |
| 15:57 | <damiano_> | come va? |
| 15:57 | <DennisTheTiger> | ompaul: I presume the self-test function is in the boot menu for netinst? Don't remember seeing it there... |
| 15:58 | <damiano_> | la lista si può avere? |
| 15:58 | <ompaul> | DennisTheTiger: I thought it was ... |
| 15:58 | <ompaul> | DennisTheTiger: I haven't installed in a bit |
| 15:58 | <ompaul> | !list |
| 15:58 | <dpkg> | ompaul: Debian è un sistema operativo composto di software libero non quella gratis. Vedi http://www.debian.org/intro/free.it.html per sapere di più. |
| 15:59 | <Knogle> | english? lol |
| 15:59 | <DennisTheTiger> | ompaul: indeed. Have to dig out the squeeze disc and make sure. |
| 15:59 | <DennisTheTiger> | ompaul: What's he asking? |
| 15:59 | <ompaul> | for wares I think |
| 15:59 | <ompaul> | too many italians turn up saying !list |
| 15:59 | <ompaul> | !it |
| 15:59 | <dpkg> | Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help. |
| 16:00 | <damiano_> | ma quindi non si ha la lista qui?? |
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| 16:00 | <DennisTheTiger> | Great opportunity to promote Debian then! =D |
| 16:00 | <ompaul> | damiano_: please speak english |
| 16:00 | <ompaul> | DennisTheTiger: ya |
| 16:00 | <damiano_> | can you give me the list of this channel?? |
| 16:00 | <damiano_> | please |
| 16:00 | <ompaul> | damiano_: http://www.debian.org |
| 16:01 | <damiano_> | e dov'è la lista? |
| 16:02 | <ompaul> | damiano_: there is none |
| 16:02 | <DennisTheTiger> | damiano_: We aren't a warez channel. |
| 16:02 | <ompaul> | I'm so old I forgot the z |
| 16:02 | <damiano_> | ah ok |
| 16:02 | <ompaul> | haha |
| 16:02 | <DennisTheTiger> | damiano_: If you want help with Debian GNU/Linux this is a great place to be. |
| 16:02 | <ompaul> | damiano_: the worlds better software |
| 16:02 | <ompaul> | debian |
| 16:02 | <DennisTheTiger> | !beer ompaul |
| 16:02 | * | dpkg deftly decants a fine Stone Arrogant Bastard for ompaul |
| 16:03 | <ompaul> | that I am |
| 16:03 | <DennisTheTiger> | Welp, time to self-test that CD. memtest is turning up nothing on this box, alleviating my suspiciions thereunto pertaining. |
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| 16:04 | <ompaul> | hehe he's plaguing me in pm and I'm offering him debian ... this conversation is going nowhere |
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| 16:11 | <DennisTheTiger> | ompaul: Update on symptoms. Can boot another box fine, no similar symptoms there. It seems to be getting past libc6 on this server, just doesn't do it without buffer IO errors. Weird. |
| 16:11 | <ompaul> | DennisTheTiger: faulty ram |
| 16:11 | <ompaul> | DennisTheTiger: usually the cause of strange and ugly faults :) |
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| 16:50 | <daemonkeeper> | Are there tmux experts around? Is it possible to make another session from an existing target session which displays a subset of the target window sessions only? |
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| 17:15 | <markus_> | hi |
| 17:16 | <Maulkin> | !ask |
| 17:16 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 17:16 | <markus_> | I have a problem with my wheezy installation, I think I found a conflict between 2 packages |
| 17:16 | <Maulkin> | Oh? |
| 17:17 | <markus_> | pidgin depends libpurple0, which depends libfarstream-0.1-0 |
| 17:17 | <markus_> | this package conflicts with the older version which is a dependency from gnome |
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| 17:18 | <markus_> | aptitude full-upgrade is recommending to uninstall gnome ;) |
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| 17:22 | <markus_> | libgstfarsight0.10-0 is the package which conflicts with libfarstream-0.10-0 |
| 17:23 | <babilen> | markus_: You probably don't want to do that -- Cycle through other options, investigate the root problem or merely wait for it to solve itself. (safe-upgrade might be a good idea in the interim) |
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| 17:23 | <babilen> | markus_: It might also be a transition that is happening, but I haven't paid attention to farsight packaging. It is likely that one library replaces the other. |
| 17:24 | <markus_> | yes, they are replacing each over |
| 17:24 | <markus_> | but I can't install both without uninstalling gnome or pidgin |
| 17:25 | <markus_> | I've used safe-upgrade for some days but I thought it would be a good idea to report this issue |
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| 17:27 | <babilen> | It's not really an issue. It is merely that you have to solve this problem yourself. What happens if you install one and remove the other in the same action? (aptitude install libgstfarsight0.10-0 libfarstream-0.10-0-) -- What are the other solutions recommended by aptitude? (cycle with "n") -- Please paste it to http://paste.debian.net |
| 17:28 | <babilen> | And lets take this to #debian-next (which is our testing/unstable channel) |
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| 17:30 | <markus_> | one package conflicts the overone so I can't install both. The solutions are to uninstall gnome, uninstall pidgin or uninstall gnome and install another desktop instead. |
| 17:31 | <markus_> | ok, I'll join #debian-next, thank you |
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| 17:32 | <babilen> | And show me the other alternatives as well as the output of the command I gave you. (As well as the command itself as you might feel the urge to silently drop the - at the end) |
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| 17:38 | <oznt> | hi everyone, does someone here have experience with github personal pages? |
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| 18:12 | <babilen> | oznt: Try #github on irc.freenode.net |
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| 18:13 | <oznt> | babilen, thanks, i am there, but it's quite ... |
| 18:14 | <oznt> | *quiet |
| 18:15 | <engywuck> | got a problem with my debian-installation on my laptop. After todays reboot (last was some weeks ago, standby in between) it won't boot anymore, hangs with "[...] Configuring network interfaces..." |
| 18:16 | <engywuck> | when mounted via grml /var/log/dmesg had some bluetooth messages as last entries, but deinstallation of bluetooth (in chroot) didn't help. |
| 18:17 | <engywuck> | Neither does boot with "Wiederherstellungsmodus" (recovery mode?) |
| 18:18 | <engywuck> | any ideas where I can look further? |
| 18:18 | <engywuck> | it's debian testing as basis |
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| 21:46 | <JWD> | i've attempted installing debian a few times now and it looks like it's actually installing to the liveUSB i created and not my netbook's harddrive |
| 21:46 | <JWD> | after installing, booting without the USB drive gets me a blank screen immediately after the BIOS menu |
| 21:47 | <JWD> | while booting with the USB in gives me a complete working installation |
| 21:48 | <JWD> | during the installation process i made sure to select the harddrive (which was listed as sdb) to install to, and not USB (which was listed as sda at the time) |
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| 21:48 | <JWD> | the first time i tried manually partitioning things and figured i just messed something up, but i've tried this a couple more times using the guided options, but no go |
| 21:48 | <JWD> | anyone have any ideas? |
| 21:50 | <mikegrb> | grub is likely having things boot from sdb but without the thumbdrive your hard drive is showing up as sda so no sdb to boot from |
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| 21:53 | <JWD> | is it possible for me to boot without the thumbdrive in? |
| 21:54 | <JWD> | well, i mean "is it possible for me to boot with my installation as it is now without the thumbdrive in?" |
| 21:54 | <mikegrb> | look in /boot/grub/menu.lst or /boot/menu.lst |
| 21:54 | <mikegrb> | something like hdd(1,0) for root device |
| 21:54 | <mikegrb> | would change the first number, drive number to 0 |
| 21:54 | <mikegrb> | second is partition |
| 21:55 | <JWD> | there is no menu.lst in either /boot or /boot/grub. i must have botched this up somewhere... |
| 21:55 | <mikegrb> | maybe grub.conf |
| 21:56 | <mikegrb> | I don't deal with grub much now a days so I'm rusty :p |
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| 21:58 | <mikegrb> | actually, you want to look in /etc/grub.d and /etc/default/grub |
| 21:58 | <JWD> | there's a grub.cfg with a great big "Do not edit" warning at the time. the closest thing in /etc was /etc/grub.d which wasn't too helpful |
| 21:58 | <mikegrb> | http://wiki.debian.org/Grub#Configuring_grub_v2 |
| 21:58 | <JWD> | one second, reading your recent message |
| 21:58 | <mikegrb> | told you I was rust |
| 21:58 | <mikegrb> | y |
| 21:59 | <JWD> | no worries, you're far better than i am |
| 21:59 | <mikegrb> | I've got a work maintenance window coming up in 1 minute so I'm going to have to take care of that, be back in about 30 minutes |
| 21:59 | <JWD> | cool, thanks for your help |
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| 22:20 | <mikegrb> | JWD: finished work maintenance, lemme go smoke a cigarette and I'll be back with you |
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| 22:20 | <mikegrb> | :p |
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| 22:21 | <Coburn> | Hey guys |
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| 22:21 | <Coburn> | anyone awake? |
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| 22:25 | <dvs> | zzzzzzzzz |
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| 22:30 | <Coburn> | Ah |
| 22:30 | <Coburn> | Well... |
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| 22:31 | <Coburn> | I was booting up the debian installer on my PPC G4 Mac Mini (I know I should use #debianppc but they are all AFK) and I was wondering if you could help me understand what "hda: lost interrupt" means |
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| 22:32 | <Coburn> | It booted the installer, but it hung on "hda: lost interrupt" |
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| 22:32 | <Coburn> | Does that mean the HDD is toast? |
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| 22:35 | <Aleric> | Coburn: something is eating your harddisks interrupts... Try compiling the kernel without ACPI or something... (use APM)... Use Google... |
| 22:38 | <Coburn> | hm... |
| 22:38 | <Coburn> | ok |
| 22:38 | <sney_> | depends on what hda really |
| 22:38 | <sney_> | is |
| 22:38 | <Coburn> | it's a 80GB |
| 22:38 | <Coburn> | it identifies |
| 22:39 | <sney_> | so you're sure hda refers to the first hard disk in the system? |
| 22:39 | <Coburn> | yes |
| 22:39 | <Coburn> | one moment, copying some lines |
| 22:39 | <Coburn> | <Coburn> "hda: found hdd" |
| 22:39 | <Coburn> | <Coburn> "hda: probing..." |
| 22:39 | <Coburn> | <Coburn> ide_pmac: lost interrupt, dma = 0840 |
| 22:39 | <Coburn> | <Coburn> hda: lost interrupt |
| 22:39 | <Coburn> | <Coburn> <hangs here> |
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| 22:39 | <Coburn> | oopsies |
| 22:39 | <sney_> | heh |
| 22:39 | <Coburn> | it's a 80GB seagate |
| 22:40 | <sney_> | I can't remember much about powerpc, but can you disable dma in openfirmware? |
| 22:40 | <sney_> | PIO will be slower but it might work, and then once you have the system installed you can turn it back on and experiment some more |
| 22:40 | <Coburn> | hm... |
| 22:41 | <Coburn> | I'll boot it up |
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| 22:41 | <sney_> | as I recall, ctrl-option-o-f during the boot chime |
| 22:41 | <Coburn> | I did do a fresh install of crapple 10.4 |
| 22:41 | <Coburn> | and then rebooted |
| 22:41 | <Coburn> | then stucks |
| 22:41 | <Coburn> | yeah |
| 22:41 | <Coburn> | Just googled; can't see any "howtos" |
| 22:41 | <Coburn> | I'll power this back on - just a sec |
| 22:42 | <Aleric> | I read here that someone had this error as a result of a bad connector... but he only had it some times. |
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| 22:48 | <Coburn> | hmm... |
| 22:48 | <Coburn> | ok |
| 22:48 | <Coburn> | I booted it back up |
| 22:48 | <Coburn> | with pci=nodma . |
| 22:48 | <Coburn> | Faster boot |
| 22:48 | <Coburn> | same error. |
| 22:48 | <Coburn> | let me upload a picture |
| 22:52 | <Aleric> | Something else I find with Google, is that people got this error when they try to boot with BootX (whatever that is), and they are told to use yaboot. Ie, http://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2000/03/msg00151.html ... very old mail though. |
| 22:52 | <Coburn> | Aleric, see http://yfrog.com/oegqoqspj |
| 22:52 | <Coburn> | yeah, I'm booting straight from disc |
| 22:52 | <Coburn> | the G4 mac mini is modern enought to do so |
| 22:52 | <Coburn> | that's HDD booting |
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| 23:18 | <Coburn> | ok |
| 23:18 | <Coburn> | well |
| 23:19 | <Coburn> | I passed ide=nodma to the kernel |
| 23:19 | <Coburn> | and it didn't get stuck on the DMA thing |
| 23:19 | <Coburn> | so it booted into debian installer. I rebooted thinking that this might have fixed the setup |
| 23:19 | <Coburn> | Apple Logo appeared |
| 23:19 | <Coburn> | So, is debian magical? Yes. Indeed, it is. |
| 23:20 | <Coburn> | The drive got so far into the setup wizard then it died again so it's most likely a DMA issue |
| 23:20 | <Coburn> | but, thanks again Aleric and sney_ for your help |
| 23:20 | <Coburn> | you've saved me a headache |
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| 23:37 | <gubasa> | preciso saber onde encontro informações sobre netbook com hardware compatível com debian? |
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| 23:42 | <pparadis> | !pt |
| 23:42 | <dpkg> | Por favor use #debian-pt para ajuda em portugues ou #debian-br para ajuda em portugues do brasil. ( /join #debian-pt ) |
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