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---Logopened Sun Jun 10 00:00:01 2012
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00:00<user01>currently the only error i am getting is this one with dpkg http://pastebin.ca/2159912
00:03<user01>ah think i found the answer
00:03<user01>/var/lib/dpkg/info/icaclient.postinst
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00:16<user01>ha yes that was it :)
00:17<user01>"Replace the line that says echo $Arch|grep "i[0-9]86" >/dev/null with *echo $Arch|grep -E "i[0-9]86|x86_64" >/dev/null"
00:17<user01>uname -m gives x86_64 :p
00:18<user01>debian admin is exciting this week :)
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00:32<Mohammad>hello can I upgrade squeez wheezy?
00:33<sney>dpkg, squeeze->wheezy
00:33<dpkg>First, understand that testing is a pre-release distribution without timely security support and that you will have a bumpy ride; ask me about <moving target> <testing> <testing security>. From /etc/apt/sources.list, remove stable-specific lines like squeeze-updates and backports, and change squeeze to wheezy. apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade. If you feel you need more instructions, perhaps you should wait a while.
00:34<Mohammad>I want to use wheezy for my Desktop
00:35<Mohammad>can I use gnome2 on wheezy?
00:35<sney>no
00:35<sney>wheezy has gnome3 (and xfce, kde4, several others)
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00:35<scientes>actually you can Mohammad
00:36<scientes>(or something that is really gnome 3 but looks like gnome 2)
00:36<sney>well, mate/cinnamon are not really gnome2
00:36<sney>and not really in debian either
00:36<scientes>apt-get install gnome-session-fallback
00:36<scientes>sney, ^ in debian
00:37<Mohammad>is debian wheezy faster than fedora 17?
00:37<scientes>looks just like gnome-panel, in fact, it is
00:37<sney>oh, they brought that back?
00:37<scientes>sney, its called fallback mode now
00:37<sney>I thought upstream dumped it. cool.
00:37<scientes>Mohammad, well, fedora 17 uses llvmpipe for gnome 3 if you don't have 3d by default
00:37<scientes>and that is very slow
00:38<scientes>but otherwise, both system have basically the same core code, and are the same speed
00:38<scientes>its more depends what you choose to use software-wise
00:38<scientes>Mohammad, fedora 17 is also white unstable, relatively to debian
00:39<scientes>(IMHO)
00:39<scientes>and Debian has much more software packaged than fedora
00:39<Mohammad>my pc is very old! but I want to test wheezy yesterday I remove fedora17 and now I use debian squeez
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00:41<Mohammad>I think I most use openbox on wheezy
00:42<user01>isnt there a google desktop now?
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00:42<user01>linus said something about it i think
00:42<scientes>user01, what do you mean?
00:43<user01>scientes, linus torvalds likes the chrome os desktop
00:43<user01>http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/linus-torvalds-likes-the-google-chrome-os-linux-desktop/10890
00:44<scientes>well I like Debian
00:45<user01>scientes, eh its a desktop, i would think you can just install it on debian
00:45<scientes>I'd rather not
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00:45<scientes>user01, sure, join the Borg
00:46<user01>scientes, ill do anything linus does
00:46<user01>gnome 3 doesnt look all that appealing to me
00:46<Mohammad>me too
00:47<user01>scientes, so ill go with another window manager when it happens
00:47<scientes>if you want 2d the most popular is xfce
00:47<user01>scientes, yep i have that too
00:48<user01>scientes, but i dont see how running aura desktop negates debian
00:48<user01>it negates gnome
00:49<user01>back in my day microsoft was borg
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00:50<user01>now they are a top kernel contributor
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00:50<user01>so i will have to move to hurd soon
00:50<user01>;)
00:50<youlysses>chrome os is just a failed idea, that's now just another Desktop Os.
00:51<youlysses>user01: Wanna donate a newer microkernel base?
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00:54<user01>youlysses, and face a SCO lawsuit down the road?
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00:56<youlysses>user01: Why would this happen ...?
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00:59<user01>youlysses, because every microkernel has been subject to some lawsuit in the past?
00:59<user01>every important one anyway
01:00<youlysses>user01: What? Citation please.
01:00<youlysses>Minix's recent kernel? GNU Mach? Bsd's?
01:01<user01>youlysses, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCO-Linux_controversies
01:01<tox>bones_was_here: so I have 2x samsung drives that were known to have some firmeware issues, after re-trying the updates and no change I unplugged both and rebooted (thinking maybe an issue with the one that was plugged into the same cntrl as the wd drive with the issue was causing the wd issue) .. that had no effect, so I swapped my dvd drive to the sata6g port that the WD drive was plugged into and the WD drive to the 3Gbs port and plugged the
01:01<tox> two samsungs back in .. and no issue!
01:01<tox>WD drive is only 3Gbps so no real loss
01:02<tox>(and yes the dvd drive shows up too =p)
01:02<user01>youlysses, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USL_v._BSDi
01:03<tox>no idea why it doesn't come up on boot when it's in the sata 6gbs port, however no major loss I guess .. just means the wd drives arent split across the controllers
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01:04<youlysses>I just scanned the first link, and it seems like there is no mentions of microkernels,... but I'll checx the second.
01:04<youlysses>*check
01:08<youlysses>user01: I skimmed it.But Bsd is a more "complicated" situation/lineage than that of GNU, or other base systems like Minix. Bsd was lisenced by At&t to MIT, GNU and Minix are only alike in "spirit", not actual code.
01:13<user01>youlysses, this is the basis for lawsuits though, even if the code is different but it does the same function there have been lawsuits on this as well
01:14<youlysses>user01: Yeah, and software patents are just utterly idiotic. If we in the faif world don't program like this concept is (it is) a joke, then we'd never accomplish anything.
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01:25<scientes>youlysses, nice
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01:33<syazdani>Hi. Is it possible that a module in testing branch is linked against an older version of the kernel?
01:36<syazdani>I get an odd error in syslog every once in a while, which is really confusing me.
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01:40<youlysses>scientes: I also don't get why parts of the community fear big buisnesses' shit practices. We aren't a single, sueable entity. We bassically have immunity.
01:40<youlysses>:-L
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02:11<scientes>fff, calibre is way over-the-top
02:11<scientes>what can i use to just *view* epub files?
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02:19<v_>i've just installed squeezy and plugin flash-nonfree and I'm not able to see some videos in youtube
02:20<v_>i'm quite newbie so don't really know what to do
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02:22<Osiris_X>flash works fine in iceweasel but not epiphany - what do I have to do to get it working in epiphany?
02:22<Osiris_X>or is this a question for #debian-gnome?
02:23<v_>I've tried foolowing workaround but it seems old don't find now
02:23<v_>> su
02:23<v_>2 -> echo "deb http://www.backports.org/debian etch-backports main contrib non-free" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
02:23<v_>3 -> apt-get update
02:23<v_>4 -> apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
02:23<v_>5 -> sed '$d' < /etc/apt/sources.list > temp
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02:29<v_>I know that someone fixed the problem with this but seems old and I don't understand it
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02:30<v_>http://paste.debian.net/173769/
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03:33<maclenn77>Hi! First time here... I've a problem and I have tried to resolve the whole day...
03:34<maclenn77>Somebody Is there?
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03:38<gdb>!ask
03:38<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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03:39<maclenn77>Sound don't works. I've installed Debian Squeeze & KDE desktop. Here is a report with alsa-info script...http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=5e72aeef80770fb1e93a5fc291f1cd0163f14434
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03:48<mino>df
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03:50<mino>hi guys ,actually i wish a some help. I am looking for a software thath works under debian capable to recognize several web cams hardware ; this is obviously in order of establish a closed survillance system.
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04:03<maclenn77>Hi, I've problems with sound don't works. I've installed Debian Squeeze & KDE desktop. Here is a report with alsa-info script...
04:03<maclenn77>http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=5e72aeef80770fb1e93a5fc291f1cd0163f14434 .
04:03<maclenn77>I can't up volume, I can't play in root, If I tried to run aplayey, I receive this message:
04:03<maclenn77>ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1018:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
04:03<maclenn77>aplay: main:654: audio open error: No such file or directory.
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04:41<maclenn77>Hi, I've problems with sound don't works. I've installed Debian Squeeze & KDE desktop. Here is a report with alsa-info script...
04:41<maclenn77>http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=5e72aeef80770fb1e93a5fc291f1cd0163f14434 .
04:41<maclenn77>I can't up volume, I can't play in root, If I tried to run aplayey, I receive this message:
04:41<maclenn77>ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1018:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
04:41<maclenn77>aplay: main:654: audio open error: No such file or directory.
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04:44<Infiltrator>So... I managed to screw up grub by moving /boot to /boot.old and doing a 'dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc'...
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04:45<Infiltrator>I'm now trying to get it to load by going through the command line, but am stuck at the 'linux ...' line.
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04:45<Infiltrator>It doesn't seem to like my 'root=/dev/mapper/computer-name-root ro quiet' line.
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04:45<Infiltrator>I did the 'insmod lvm' and 'search' lines already.
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04:48<Infiltrator>Does anybody know what may be incorrect with that?
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05:02<AgentC>Hi
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05:12<maclenn77>Sound don't works. I've installed Debian Squeeze & KDE desktop. Here is a report with alsa-info script...http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=5e72aeef80770fb1e93a5fc291f1cd0163f14434
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05:13<Infiltrator>Ah, that's why: /vmlinuz was pointing to /boot/vmlinuz.blah, which didn't exist.
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05:14<AgentC>Any cups maintainer here ?
05:14<Infiltrator>maclenn77: Not sure exactly about KDE, but do you see any sound icons/settings anywhere? Also, did it use to work and stopped or not?
05:15<Infiltrator>Er... by 'or not', I meant 'or is this a fresh install'.
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05:16<AgentC>since exchange of my system-harddrive the cups-system does not work any more. filesystem, partitions and so on is still the same. on triing to print a testpage it says "unsupported format 'application/vnd.cups-command'!
05:16<AgentC>drivers are innstalled
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05:17<Infiltrator>AgentC: I _think_ that's a mime issue. Don't trust me, though.
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05:20<Infiltrator>Does anybody know the correct way to regenerate /boot so that the system boots?
05:20<AgentC>Infiltrator: i dunno, that printer worked perfect, but after hdd-exchange (same size, same partitioning and so on, same rootfilesystem files incl /etc) it does not work any more. only thing i changed on hdd-exchange is, that /dev/sda and /dev/sdb are flipped, but corrected in fstab. so i have no idea what happend there.
05:21<AgentC>boot ?
05:21<AgentC>hm in what case ? case of kernel ? or grub ?
05:21<Infiltrator>maclenn77: Please reply in the channel.
05:22<AgentC>Infiltrator: what kernel is in use ?
05:22<maclenn77>I saw settings yet, But I can't found any control for volume... I installed Pulse Audio, is like that for KDE
05:22<Infiltrator>AgentC: Well, when I moved /boot to /boot.old and ran 'dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc', it didn't generate the vmlinuz and initrd files. It's the 2.6 from stable.
05:23<Infiltrator>maclenn77: pulse is an audio server.
05:23<AgentC>Infiltrator: vmlinuz and initrd is not depending on grub. grub just detecting the kernel and initrd files in /boot for generating configuratio files
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05:23<Infiltrator>maclenn77: Has sound ever worked?
05:23<Infiltrator>AgentC: I'll keep that in mind; thanks.
05:24<haylo>pulse sucks. its a layer for apps to access that werent really made for linux
05:24<maclenn77>I has installed OpenSUSE with GNOME before, and yes.
05:24<AgentC>Infiltrator: vmlinuz and initrd must be in /boot. if you like you could compile your own kernel, for example linux3
05:24<Infiltrator>AgentC: As for cups, have you tried reinstalling it yet?
05:24<AgentC>yes
05:24<haylo>if you can use only alsa for debian, it will be way easier to keep correct
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05:25<haylo>in my experience*
05:25<Infiltrator>AgentC: In the cups interface (localhost:631), does it say anything about the printer being unavailable or anything?
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05:25<Infiltrator>maclenn77: Do you have Debian or OpenSUSE installed?
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05:25<maclenn77>Well, I'll do that, but I installed trying an advise in a forum.
05:25<maclenn77>Debian with KDE
05:26<Infiltrator>maclenn77: So this is a fresh install? And you had no sound at all from the begining of the install?
05:26<AgentC>Infiltrator: printer are listed, two entries for the same printer, mfc210 and mfc215 driver. normally i use the 215 which is a wrapper to 210 ... it says "printer is online" but print-jobs are shortly listed but not executed
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05:26<Infiltrator>AgentC: So can you print normal documents, other that the test page?
05:27<AgentC>Infiltrator: on service questions like clean printer etc. it says that command cannot sent to driver.
05:27<Infiltrator>AgentC: I think I remember that error; it has to do with the commands sent to the printer or something.
05:28<maclenn77>No sound... But I didn't installed the desktop at the start...
05:28<Infiltrator>maclenn77: Do you have the alsa packages installed?
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05:29<maclenn77>Yep, It's in the report, I think... And the drivers too...
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05:33<Infiltrator>maclenn77: If you install 'alsa-utils' and run amixer, can you see any outputs?
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05:33<maclenn77>"Simple mixer control 'IEC958', 0
05:34<maclenn77>Capabilities: pswitch psmitch-joined penum
05:34<maclenn77>Playback channels: Mono
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05:34<maclenn77>Mono: Playback [on]
05:35<maclenn77>Tha's all...
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05:38<Infiltrator>maclenn77: Does 'aplay some-file' generate any sound?
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05:39<maclenn77>Infiltrator: any sound... let me look up the error message
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05:40<Infiltrator>maclenn77: What error message do you get?
05:40<maclenn77>ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1018:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave aplay: main:654: audio open error: No such file or directory
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05:42<Infiltrator>That sounds like it can't find the file; which one did you give to it?
05:42<vadimkolchev>hi all
05:43<maclenn77>~/Música/Singles ...
05:44<maclenn77>If I cd path, and I try play inside file, it's the same...
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05:46<Infiltrator>maclenn77: Can you a path without accented characters?
05:47<Infiltrator>Can you try a path*
05:47<maclenn77>No... Inside the file it's the same message.
05:48<Infiltrator>I mean try a path that doesn't include special characters (your 'u').
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05:51<maclenn77>I copied outside the file, and the same message... I'll try with a .ogg file...
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05:55<maclenn77>Infiltrator: Same message with .ogg
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06:01<Infiltrator>maclenn77: Well, I'm not sure; does aplay have any verbose options? Try '-v'?
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06:03<maclenn77>Exactly the same, even with -vvv
06:04<Infiltrator>Anything in google about that error?
06:06<maclenn77>Similar problems, but any helpful solution for me...
06:07<maclenn77>I started looking up for problems with sound and KDE, and then with sound and Squeeze... but anything I found help me.
06:07<s_i_m>maclenn77, did sound work before on your system in linux?
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06:07<maclenn77>Yes, with OpenSUSE & GNOME Desktop.
06:07<maclenn77>Here is an alsa-info report...
06:08<maclenn77>The drivers are installed...
06:08<s_i_m>ah, ok, let me see
06:08<maclenn77>http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=5e72aeef80770fb1e93a5fc291f1cd0163f14434
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06:11<s_i_m>maclenn77, your card 0 is HDMI, is this intended?
06:13<maclenn77>Where, that matchs with lspci info...
06:13<maclenn77>*Well...
06:13<s_i_m>maclenn77, can you post the output of aplay -L ?
06:14<maclenn77>ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1018:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave aplay: main:654: audio open error: No such file or directory
06:14<maclenn77>Sorry...
06:14<maclenn77>That's not...
06:15<s_i_m>maclenn77, enter precisely this: aplay -L
06:16<pungi_man>join my channel #easywithpb on freenode networks
06:18<Infiltrator>pungi_man: ?
06:18<maclenn77>How I send a .txt file here?
06:18<s_i_m>!paste
06:18<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>.
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06:19<maclenn77>http://paste.debian.net/173784/
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06:22<s_i_m>maclenn77, try "aplay -D defaut <somefile>" and "aplay -D hdmi <somefile>"
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06:22<s_i_m>replace <somefile> with a name of a sound file
06:22<babilen>pungi_man: Take your spam elsewhere or merely stop it.
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06:23<scientes>pref the latter
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06:25<maclenn77>1 Unsigned 8 bit, Rate 8000 Hz, Mono /2 aplay: set_params:1053: Sample format non available /3 Available formats: / 4 - S16_LE
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06:26<maclenn77>This is for aplay -D hdmi
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06:28<maclenn77>With the other is like "aplay filename"
06:29<s_i_m>maclenn77, that can also mean that you tried to play a file in a format that aplay does not support
06:29<maclenn77>but it's .ogg!!!
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06:30<maclenn77>The same with a .mp3 file...
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06:31<s_i_m>maclenn77, I think aplay can only play wav files
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06:32<s_i_m>maclenn77, in alsamixer do you see any controls?
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06:33<maclenn77>s_i_m: Card : HD-Audo Generic Chip: ATI Rbxx HDMI
06:34<maclenn77>*HD-Audio...
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06:45<s_i_m>maclenn77, can you try this: speaker-test -c2 -D hw:1,0 -t wav
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06:49<maclenn77>s_i_m : returns this: Invalid test type /usr/share/sounds/error.wav
06:49<maclenn77>child process exited abnormally
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06:52<s_i_m>maclenn77, hm. and speaker-test -c2 -D hw:1,0 -t sin ?
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06:57<maclenn77>speaker-test 1.0.23
06:57<maclenn77>
06:57<maclenn77>Playback device is hw:1,0 / Stream parameters are 48000Hz, S16_LE, 2 channels / Sine wave rate is 440.0000Hz / Playback open error: -16,Device or resource busy
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06:57<maclenn77>with speaker-test...
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07:01<ropic>hey
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07:02<s_i_m>maclenn77, so my diagnosis to your problem is the following: 1) you have HDMI card as the default device hw:0,0. I am not sure this is what you want (unless you want sound out of speakers on a monitor, etc.). 2) there is something that blocks the other device hw:1,0. If you have installed pulseaudio, esound or similar, try removing them.
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07:06<maclenn77>Ok... I got pulseaudio cause read a kind of solution installing it... but That's not worked...
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07:26<maclenn77>s_i_m :Well, I've removed pulseaudio & esound...but still don't working :(
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07:32<mentor>maclenn77: What are you trying to do?
07:33<maclenn77>Changing manually the default card like here: http://princ3.wordpress.com/2006/10/20/how-to-change-default-soundcard-under-linux/
07:34<mentor>That only affects things using libasound
07:34<mentor>What are you trying to achieve?
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07:49<maclenn77>mentor: Sounds don't works...
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07:50<mentor>maclenn77: Have you done all the standard things, like checking mixer settings, running speaker-test, etc.?
07:50<maclenn77>s_i_m: s_i_m: Well, changing the default card, in alsamixer I can see audio controls now... But appears an error "audio open error: Device or Resource busy".
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07:50<maclenn77>Yes,
07:51<maclenn77>I'm here since twelve o'clock, Mexico Time...
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07:52<mentor>maclenn77: Some other program is using the sound device
07:53<mentor>Sound device can only be used by one program at a time.
07:53<mentor>maclenn77: lsof will tell you which process
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07:55<mentor>maclenn77: Also, you can specify to libasound programs which device to use
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07:56<maclenn77>It show a lot of process, How I could select show only a kind of process?
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07:57<maclenn77>How could I ...?*
08:00<mentor>Did you read the documentation on lsof?
08:00<mentor>maclenn77:
08:00<maclenn77>I'm doing...
08:01<mentor>maclenn77: You'll want to use it to find out which process has the sound device open
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08:05<vadimkolchev>need help. Unable to connect my Sony walkman as a usb device - it simply doesn't show up
08:05<mentor>vadimkolchev: Check the kernel log and lsusb
08:06<vadimkolchev>mentor: lsusb shows it as Sony corp., but it doesn't mount. How do I check kernel log?
08:06<mentor>vadimkolchev: "Doesn't mount"?
08:07<vadimkolchev>mentor: yes, I need it to mount as a flash drive - it supports that, but I can't find out how to do this
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08:07<mentor>vadimkolchev: Have you ever used any other usb storage device?
08:07<vadimkolchev>mentor: of course
08:08<mentor>So, how does using those and this device differ?
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08:09<vadimkolchev>this device does not automount, and I don't know where this device actually is in /dev/ to mount it manually
08:09<mentor>Right
08:10<mentor>So, normally your desktop environment or something automounts the device
08:10<mentor>Is this device appearing as a USB mass storage device?
08:10<vadimkolchev>mentor: as for usb devices - it used to be so
08:11<vadimkolchev>mentor: for this device I set it to connect as usb flash drive, and it does show up on my centos machine automatically, but not in debian
08:12<mentor>So, it's definitely not appearing as a mass storage device; i.e., in the kernel log (/var/log/<foo>) or lsusb?
08:12<vadimkolchev>mentor: in lsusb it does appear as Sony Corp. usb device
08:12<mentor>yeah
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08:12<mentor>But as a mass storage device?
08:12<mentor>USB devices can operate in different modes
08:13<vadimkolchev>mentor: how do I check it?
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08:13<babilen>vadimkolchev: Plug it in and run "dmesg|tail -n30" and paste that to http://paste.debian.net please.
08:13<vadimkolchev>babilen: ok
08:16<vadimkolchev>http://paste.debian.net/173796/
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08:17<markus_>hi, is it possible the package 'sqlmap' in sid is kind of.. broken?
08:17<markus_>I get an error when I click on 'List of files'
08:18<markus_>and I can't apt-get it
08:18<babilen>vadimkolchev: It does have sdb1 -- I haven't seen "exceeds device capacity, ..." before and you might want to google for that. How do you typically mount? Can you mount /dev/sdb1 manually? (e.g. as root with mount or as user with, say, pmount)
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08:19<mentor>markus_: It is in sid
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08:20<vadimkolchev>babilen, well, ok I could mount manually, but I need it to automount as usb flash device
08:20<babilen>markus_: Check on http://bugs.debian.org, try to come up with a definite way to reproduce it and file a bug if it hasn't been filed before.
08:20<themill>markus_: packages.d.o is moderately confused and unfortunately becoming more so
08:20<mentor>The kernel is saying the partition map is inconsistent
08:20<babilen>vadimkolchev: How do you usually (auto)mount ?
08:21<vadimkolchev>babilen: I usually didn't have to do anything, it just showed up as removable drive
08:21<markus_>http://packages.debian.org/sid/sqlmap
08:21<babilen>vadimkolchev: Are you using a desktop environment such as Gnome?
08:21<markus_>there aren't any bugs
08:21<vadimkolchev>babilen: I do use gnome
08:21<markus_>http://packages.debian.org/sid/all/sqlmap/filelist
08:22<markus_>but there is an error
08:22<babilen>vadimkolchev: Ah, so it should be nautilus that does the mounting here. Can you mount it "manually" from inside nautilus? (i.e. do you see the unmounted device on the right in nautilus and is it mounted when you click it?)
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08:23<babilen>markus_: AFAICT sqlmap is not in sid (or wheezy)
08:23<vadimkolchev>babilen: no, it never shows in nautilus, now I mounted it manually, but it isn't there. Although I can access it via cli, or just navigating to dir I mounted it to
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08:24<babilen>vadimkolchev: It *might* be due to the errors you see in the dmesg output. Please also note mentor's remark "The kernel is saying the partition map is inconsistent" -- I guess that Sony messed something up. Investigate with your partitioning tool of choice, write a new and consistent partition table, ...
08:25<babilen>vadimkolchev: But I have no further knowledge concerning the question how nautilus decides what to show and what to omit.
08:25<mentor>It's possible this issue may have been worked round in newer kernels
08:25<vadimkolchev>babilen: it can't be so, because centos with gnome and ubuntu with some kind of gnome handles it perfectly
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08:26<themill>markus_: I'm guessing sqlmap is available for releases other than squeeze only through something like the (defunct) m68k port. Unfortunately, handling arch:all packages is hard.
08:27<babilen>vadimkolchev: Well - There *is* a problem, but it might be that the other systems are able to handle it due to newer/older versions of some components. (such as the kernel) -- I would investigate what the error means and if it was dealt with in newer kernels for example.
08:27<themill>!dbugs 668270
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08:27<dpkg>DONE:#668270:N[ftp.debian.org] RM: sqlmap -- requested by upstream; unmaintained; old; abandoned upstream (); Tue, 10 Apr 2012 11:12:02 UTC []
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08:27<markus_>hmm, ok, thank you
08:28<vadimkolchev>babilen: well, I got to check what kernel is in centos - it doesn't use new software as well, only stable
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08:29<mentor>vadimkolchev: Check the error too
08:30<vadimkolchev>mentor: babilen: I guess centos uses pretty the same version of kernel, but maybe another rev.
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08:37<babilen>vadimkolchev, mentor: Might be http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=574795 -- Could you paste "aptitude versions ~i~n^linux-image" to http://paste.debian.net please?
08:37<babilen>vadimkolchev: But google for '"exceeds device capacity, enabling native capacity" site:debian.org' (or without the site:debian.org) -- Plenty of hits and discussions.
08:38<babilen>Trying a new kernel from backports (/msg dpkg bdo kernel) is certainly an option.
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08:39<vadimkolchev>babilen: http://paste.debian.net/173799/
08:40<babilen>vadimkolchev: Well, it can't be that particular bug then. I'd try a new kernel and see how that handles it.
08:41<vadimkolchev>babilen: I'm pretty sure I should stick to this kernel, because it does everything except this) who knows, maybe not approved kernel will fix this and add other bugs
08:42<babilen>vadimkolchev: A kernel from http://backports.debian.org is certainly not an unapproved one or who approves kernels in your setup? Do you have to be compliant with corporate rules?
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08:43<babilen>vadimkolchev: It would still be interesting to know *if* a newer kernel fixes this problem or not.
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08:43<vadimkolchev>babilen: as centos uses the same version and handles it good, I don't believe it's problems with kernel, although maybe some options in this kernel are off.
08:44<babilen>*shrug*
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09:15<caiyue>hello , everybody
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09:16<caiyue>hello
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09:21<vinus>hi, i have installed ubuntu 12.04 along with windows xp, in the starting os selection screen it is showing that resolution is not optimum, how to adjust that? please help...
09:23<abrotman>vinus: this is #debian, #ubuntu is on irc.freenode.net
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09:29<vinus>how to connect with ubuntu forums for online help?
09:30<ompaul>vinus: you want the irc I'll get the bot to tell ya
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09:31<abrotman>vinus: /server irc.freenode.net
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09:35<vinus>how to adjust grub loader resolution?
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09:36<abrotman>vinus: this is not an Ubuntu support channel, use irc.freenode.net and go to #ubuntu
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09:59<ratnick>why did a debian mirror reject my architecture and then accept on a subsequent try?
09:59<abrotman>round robin
09:59<ratnick>?
10:00<themill>ratnick: what mirror are you using?
10:00<ratnick>http://ftp.us.debian.org
10:01<Marillion>ratnick: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Round_Robin_(Informatik)
10:01<ratnick>ok thanks
10:01<themill>ratnick: "nslookup ftp.us.debian.org"
10:01<Marillion>ratnick: use the english side, if you don't understand german :)
10:02<ratnick>ja
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10:03<ratnick>Isn't that similar to Russell's Paradox about a barber?
10:04<abrotman>ratnick: perhaps use a mirror near you? pair.net is in pittsburgh if they still host a mirror
10:04<ratnick>I had strange results from other mirrors at other times
10:05<Marillion>ratnick: where do you live? if allow to ask?
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10:06<ratnick>west virginia
10:07<ratnick>my guess was server busy
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10:07<abrotman>ratnick: if you want consistent results, don't use a round-robin like ftp.us.debian.org
10:08<ratnick>try all?
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10:08<abrotman>ratnick: wtf .. frontiernet has a mirror, why wouldn't you use that?
10:08<ratnick>current list?
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10:09<abrotman>http://debian.mirror.frontiernet.net/debian/
10:09*abrotman wishes his ISP had a mirror
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10:11<ratnick>i''l try it
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10:14<camilo>Hola a todos
10:14<camilo>Hi everyone
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10:15<camilo>alguien ha instalado puppet server remoto?
10:15<camilo>no sobre la LAN
10:15<camilo>en un vps
10:15<abrotman>camilo: english here, or spanish in #debian-es
10:15<camilo>thanks
10:15<camilo>sorry
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10:25<ratnick>404 Not Found
10:25<ratnick>Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
10:26<ratnick>round robin wins
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10:28<Marillion>ratnick: take another mirror from here http://www.debian.org/mirror/list
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10:32<nils_>hi, am using debian testing and after some updates my wacom tablet stopped working. in particular lsusb -t gives "Class=HID, Driver=" instead of the expected "Class=HID, Driver=wacom". Where I can get more information on what goes wrong?
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10:40<lorena>ola
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10:42<Marillion>nils_: if you don't become a answer , you can try to ask in #debian-next (testing/sid)
10:43<nils_>ok, thanks. i'll try that
10:43<Marillion>you're welcome
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10:43<Apollo>nils_: do you remember if the update removed any packages?
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10:45<nils_>there was an update of the linux-image and of xserver-xorg-input-wacom. but i think linux-images caused the problem because the wacom kernel driver does not seem to work for me
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10:46<Apollo>are there any messages in /var/log/syslog related to the driver?
10:46<Apollo>what does sudo modprobe wacom do?
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10:48<nils_>every time i do "modprobe wacom" i get "usbcore: deregistering interface driver wacom usbcore: registered new interface driver wacom wacom: v1.53:USB Wacom tablet driver" in syslog.
10:48<nils_>however, the driver associated with my tablet does not change in lsusb -t
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10:50<Apollo>hmm, possible bug in udev again then, sorry, I can't help any further, but http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=568236 might be relevant
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10:50<nils_>ok, thanks for the reference
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11:25<calisto>Hi I need help with a instalation into another system in another partiton of debian, all except grub its ok,Im create a dm_crypt partition and grub or initrd dont answer the password of the partition, place help me!!!
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11:40<Rodrigo>hi, i have a problem
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11:40<Rodrigo>i installed debian, almost everything worked, but i dont know if my video driver is working
11:40<Rodrigo>because sometimes appears slow
11:40<Rodrigo>and i cant find the additional drivers thing like in ubuntu
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11:42<haylo>Rodrigo, ubuntu makes installing drivers VERY easy. easier than any linux distro
11:43<Rodrigo>how i install nvidia 105m (notebook) on debian?
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11:43<haylo>i have an ATI card sorry
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11:43<Rodrigo>ok, thanks anyways, if someone knows let me know
11:43<Rodrigo>haylo there is any way to see if i have installed drivers?
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11:43<pparadis>http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary
11:44<Rodrigo>nvm i found
11:44<Rodrigo>i can download the .run from
11:44<Rodrigo>nvidia site?
11:44<haylo>ah for nvidea it actually says in debian wiki to just use Nvidea driver and install it
11:44<pparadis>Rodrigo: have you seen this? http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers
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11:45<Rodrigo>yes
11:45<Rodrigo>didnt read all
11:45<Rodrigo>i think i found a solution anyways :)
11:45<sney>isn't 105m optimus?
11:45<Rodrigo>105m nvidia, notebook, not sure
11:45<sney>don't use the nvidia.com installer, it breaks things in debian
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11:46<calisto>Hi I need help with a instalation into another system in another partiton of debian, all except grub its ok,Im create a dm_crypt partition and grub or initrd dont answer the password of the partition, place help me!!!
11:46<sney>Rodrigo: does it say anything about switching back and forth from intel to nvidia graphics
11:47<sney>calisto: maybe try in #debian-es
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11:47<Rodrigo>./NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-295.53.run: 902: ./nvidia-installer: not found
11:47<calisto>n debian-es all are sleeping jajaja
11:47<Rodrigo>if breaks things... ill delete
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11:47<sney>!why nvidia installer sucks
11:47<dpkg>nvidia-installer works fine for you today, granted. Let's say tomorrow Xorg is updated -- the nvidia driver will break. If you try to uninstall nvidia (nvidia-installer --uninstall), then you break Xorg badly. nvidia-installer overwrites files at random, and has NO CONCEPT of package management. We recommend against using it based on extensive experience. USE THE DEBIAN PACKAGES. Ask me about <nvidia>.
11:48<sney>!nvidia dkms
11:48<dpkg>For Squeeze users. Ask me about <contrib> and <non-free sources>. "aptitude -r install linux-headers-2.6-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` nvidia-kernel-dkms && mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf". Run "update-initramfs -u" and restart your system to enable the <nouveau> blacklist. For legacy drivers, see <nvidia legacy>.
11:48<Rodrigo>happily didnt work... :p
11:48<sney>Rodrigo: ^ this is one command between the "
11:48<sney>!doesn't work
11:48<dpkg>"Doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions>, <sicco> and <errors>.
11:48<Rodrigo>what is xorg? i know it has something to do with graphic enviroment
11:49<pparadis>http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg
11:49<haylo>Rodrigo, you need to use google. these debian admins all are volunteers
11:49<sney>X is the windowing system, it's the most important part of your gui
11:49<Rodrigo>ok thanks, sorry i will use google next time
11:50<haylo>xorg is what gives us a free graphical enviornment. it makes gnome, kde, anything with an image or gui possible. usually i just install xorg and a very minimal system
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11:51<Rodrigo>ok, thx
11:51<Rodrigo>just another thing
11:51<Rodrigo>i download the debian 6.0.5 i386
11:51<Rodrigo>and when installed it installed amd64...
11:51<Rodrigo> i have a intel t4300 processor
11:52<pparadis>what does this say? uname -a
11:52<sney>amd64 is for all amd and intel 64-bit x86 CPUs. it is called 'amd64' because amd released a 64-bit cpu first.
11:52<Rodrigo>Linux debian 2.6.32-5-amd64 #1 SMP Sun May 6 05:12:07 UTC 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux
11:53<Rodrigo>but isnt weird that i download i386 and installed amd64?
11:53<sney>you probably downloaded the multiarch network installer
11:53<pparadis>that ^
11:53<Rodrigo>nop, it was dvd 1
11:53<gnugr>calisto:read this to see if its alright with you (if i got it correct) "http://paste.kde.org/496736/" check if works for you
11:53<pparadis>Rodrigo: what exact filename is the ISO image you used?
11:54<calisto>ok gnugr reed
11:54<Rodrigo>the name of the file i downloaded?
11:54<pparadis>Rodrigo: how did you install debian?
11:54<Rodrigo>a DVD
11:55<Rodrigo>name of iso:
11:55<Rodrigo>debian-6.0.5-i386-DVD-1.iso
11:55<chealer>Rodrigo: it didn't install the Debian amd64 architecture, it simply installed an amd64 Linux image
11:55<Rodrigo>what ar ethe differences*
11:55<Rodrigo>are* the*
11:55<Rodrigo>i have to go... be back in 5-10 mins
11:55<sney>so you have a 64-bit kernel and drivers, and you can use 4+ GB of memory, but you have 32-bit applications
11:56<pparadis>um, 32-bit systems can use 4+ GB of memory as well.
11:56<chealer>Rodrigo: Linux is just a part of your system. most of the software is not the kernel.
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11:57<sney>pparadis: well, pae images are standard beginning with wheezy, but there's a performance hit and it isn't the same :P
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11:57<pparadis>show me benchmarks inidicating real world performance hits.
11:57<pparadis>indicating, even.
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11:58<sney>no, I'm not going to get into a pissing match over this. fine, omit the middle part of my statement
11:58<pparadis>PAE has been the standard for 32-bit systems with more than 4 GB of memory (actually 3 GB is the normal ceiling there).
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12:02<joy>is this the right place to ask whats the normal temperature of cpu & harddisk is ?
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12:03<user>#hardware might get you an answer
12:03<sney>joy: different cpus and hard drives have different operating temperatures, you should google it with your model
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12:04<Rodrigo>take care... it can burn your motherboard
12:04<Rodrigo>happened 2 me
12:05<Rodrigo>why drivers have 2 be so hard?
12:05<sney>because nvidia decided that they could be the only ones who know how their hardware works
12:05<Rodrigo>=_=
12:06<Rodrigo>why cant they make decent drivers
12:06<Rodrigo>open source drivers
12:06<Rodrigo>at least for linux
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12:06<sney>they're more concerned with protecting their technology secrets.
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12:06<sney>ATI is a little bit better about it, they've been helping develop a (mostly) open-source driver for their cards
12:06<Rodrigo>http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#Installation--1 im reading this and doing
12:06<Rodrigo>sney, why they wanna protect
12:07<Rodrigo>their stuff so badly
12:07<pparadis>Rodrigo: their firmware contains their "intellectual property."
12:07<Rodrigo>no one gives a f***
12:07<sney>usually when a tech company does that, it's because they don't want anyone else to copy it
12:07<Rodrigo>lol... who would copy?
12:07<pparadis>Rodrigo: seriously?
12:07<pparadis>their competitoris, maybe.
12:07<pparadis>-i
12:07<Rodrigo>-_-
12:07<sney>ati or intel, probably. or any other company that decides they want to make video cards
12:08<Rodrigo>well but making a open source driver for linux
12:08<Rodrigo>woudlnt cost that much ...
12:08<pparadis>Rodrigo: go ahead and do it then.
12:08<pparadis>talk to the major manufacturers about it.
12:08<Rodrigo>... i srsly hope your being sarcastic
12:09<pparadis>no, i'm not.
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12:09<pparadis>you're talking about something that a whole lot of people are involved with on a daily basis, but you're not demonstrating any understanding of the way this stuff works.
12:10<Rodrigo>so what u want me to do?
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12:11<joy>the middle temp is 50 c - ok? - someone overlooking...?
12:11<pparadis>Rodrigo: if you're having a specific problem, explain it in as much detail as possible here. then perhaps someone can help you solve the issue. for more general conversation, #debian-offtopic is a better place.
12:12<Rodrigo>i am trying to solve the problem on my own... cuz i wanna learn more about how linux works
12:12<Rodrigo>and how to solve stuff
12:12<sney>Rodrigo: the nvidia driver in backports might be useful to you. http://backports.debian.org/
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12:14<sh4>hi! hello everybody, i was wondering if there is any easy method to mark the xorg system to manually installed of something like that to avoid it to update, because its updates are breaking the fglrx drivers and the system everytime. Thank you!!
12:14<Rodrigo>ok hx
12:14<sney>sh4: if you had fglrx installed with dkms, you wouldn't have that problem.
12:14<sney>!fglrx dkms
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12:14<dpkg>[fglrx dkms] For Squeeze users. Ensure you have <non-free sources> added. Exit X / stop any <DM>, then as root: "aptitude -r install linux-headers-2.6-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` fglrx-driver && modprobe -r radeon drm ; mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "fglrx"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-fglrx.conf".
12:14<Rodrigo>thx*
12:15<sh4>oops but i am using sid, maybe i'm in wrong channel
12:15<sney>sh4: sid goes to #debian-next but my advice is still valid
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12:16<Zaba>sney, it actually isn't
12:16<sh4>i think i had it installed like that sney, correct me if i'm wrong, isn't it the problem that the x version is ahead of fglrx?
12:16<Zaba>fglrx is not installable with up-to-date xorg
12:16<sh4>and not compatible anymore until fglrx updates
12:16<Zaba>because it requires the old ABI
12:16<sh4>so i want to know any method to "stop" xorg from updating until it's safe to update
12:17<Zaba>sh4, you can put xorg on hold. Ask dpkg about hold.
12:17<sh4>ok, thank you Zaba
12:17*themill would hope a sid user already knew that
12:17<Rodrigo>i cant solve it -.-
12:17<Rodrigo>ok here it goes:
12:18<Rodrigo>i am running debian 6.0.5 stable, using a acer aspire 5738zg laptop, with a nvidia 105m graphics driver, and I dont know how to install the driver to my graphics card, any help?
12:18<Rodrigo>I read the page of nvidia drivers on debian and i cant understand
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12:24<Rodrigo>just figured out another problem
12:24<Rodrigo>sound
12:24<Rodrigo>not owrking
12:24<Rodrigo>great... -_- really nice
12:25<nevyn>ok.
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12:25<pparadis>!tell Rodrigo about alsa
12:25<pparadis>oh, he left.
12:25<nevyn>oh well..
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12:38<Ormie>hello
12:38<Ormie>Does debian support my hardware?
12:39<towo`>who knows
12:39<Ormie>Usually the mouse pad and the wireless is not supported.
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12:39<Ormie>I'll give you info
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12:39<saurabh>Ormie,, what's ur hardware spec. Most probably it does
12:39<nevyn>what wireless card?
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12:40<Ormie>02:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter (rev 01)
12:40<nevyn>!rtl8188
12:40<dpkg>For support of Realtek 802.11n PCI-E devices, ask me about <rtl8192ce>, <rtl8192de>, <rtl8192e>, <rtl8192se>. For support of Realtek 802.11n USB devices, ask me about <rtl8192cu>, <rtl8192su>, <rtl8192u>. See also <what's my wireless>.
12:40<Ormie>hm...
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12:40<Ormie>nice
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12:41<nevyn>ok. what's the mousepad/touchpad?
12:41<Ormie>nevyn, I can't find my device
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12:42<Ormie>nevyn, i can't "grep" the info about touchpad, thoug.
12:42<nevyn>can you get the pciid
12:42<nevyn>of the network card?
12:42<Ormie>huh?
12:42<nevyn>02:00.0 is the bus it's plugged into
12:42<Ormie>ok
12:43<Ormie>how?
12:43<Airwave>Hey. I installed lighttpd on Debian, and I'm trying to install MediaWiki to go with it. However, APT insists on pulling in Apache as a dependency for MediaWiki. Any tips?
12:43<Ormie>!rtl8188CE
12:43<dpkg>The Realtek RTL8188CE and RTL8192CE are PCI-E 802.11n wireless LAN chipsets (PCI IDs 10ec:8176, 10ec:8177, 10ec:8178, 10ec:8191). mac80211 vendor driver (rtl8192ce) is available since Linux 2.6.38. Firmware is required (rtlwifi/rtl8192cfw.bin), ask me about <realtek firmware> to provide. http://wiki.debian.org/rtl819x
12:43<nevyn>Ormie: lspci -nn
12:43<Ormie>ok
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12:44<nevyn>anyway
12:44<nevyn>yes it needs firmware.
12:44<themill>Airwave: it's probably looking for php modules. Install (and configure) php5-cgi first.
12:44<Ormie>i'll paste bin that
12:44<Airwave>themill: Thanks. I'll give that a try.
12:44<nevyn>Ormie: nevermind
12:44<Ormie>what?
12:44<Ormie>why?
12:44<nevyn>Ormie: the network card is supported. it just needs firmware
12:45<Ormie>where can i download the firmware?
12:45<nevyn>Ormie: read the wikipage dpkg just told you about
12:45<Ormie>ok
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12:45<Airwave>themill: Thanks so much; that did the trick!
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12:45<nevyn>!tell Ormie about realtek firmware
12:46<Ormie>?
12:46<nevyn>Ormie: so enable non-free then install the package realtek-firmware
12:46<Ormie>ok
12:47<Ormie>thanks :D
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12:51<vlad>can anyone suggest me an irc server-channel for open source chat not just limited to certain softwares but general talk?
12:52<Ormie>freenode?
12:52<nevyn>vlad: #linux
12:52<nevyn>vlad: but it depends
12:52<nevyn>vlad: you really will need to narrow the scope.
12:53<vlad>i'm looking for open sourced and alternative search engine projects
12:53<vlad>i want to collect opinions about this
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12:54<Ormie>Are you filling in a poll/quiz?
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12:54<vlad>no?
12:54<Ormie>or, research?
12:54<vlad>just research
12:54<Ormie>try asking around.
12:55<Ormie>start from, the main channel of the network
12:55<Ormie>and so on with /list
12:55<themill>err.. no... please don't do that
12:55<vlad>:)
12:57<vlad>ok let me try to directly ask here then
12:57<vlad>anyone not happy about the mainstream search engines and using an alternative one for a change?
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12:58<Ormie>i don't know what you mean?
12:58<Ormie>with your question
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12:59<vlad>for instance, as a webmaster i
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12:59<vlad>i'm not happy with some of the googles policies
12:59<Ormie>ok
12:59<vlad>but they serve as the monopoly of indexing
12:59<Ormie>I use google, I have gmail, I have g+, I am happy with it.
13:00<vlad>thats alright
13:00<Ormie>But, I am going to switch to DuckDuckGo.
13:00<Ormie>I just wanna try new things
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13:01<vlad>hmm sounds really good
13:01<vlad>thanks mate thats the thing i was looking for
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13:02<Ormie>no problem ;)
13:03<user01>duckduckgo appears to pull from google or bing and ing usually pull from google
13:04<Ormie>huh?
13:04<user01>like if you do an image search it says "google" and then "bing"
13:04<ompaul>are we a little offtopic here
13:04<user01>yes #debian-offtopic
13:06<Ormie>http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/6-really-cool-things-you-can-do-with-duckduckgo/
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13:06<ompaul>Ormie: you are still offtopic
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13:06<vlad>sorry to start it, he gave really useful information though
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13:08<jacek>hi all:D
13:08<jacek>new here, welcome everybody.
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13:13<user01>is debian going with gnome3 in the next stable release?
13:13<user01>as default
13:13<ompaul>maybe more than likely, looks like that from here but when you do the clever thing and use netinst you don't have to have default :)
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13:15<themill>user01: fsvo default. The "default" installation doesn't install a desktop at all.
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13:15<user01>just trying to plan for my next debian release party
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13:16<safinaskar>what is name of packet which automatically finds missing video-plugin?
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13:18<user01>didnt know there was one, if a video fails to play i look at the error message and find the package for the codec, if one exists
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13:23<user01>ffmpeg -i filename gives you the information of the video type
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13:24<themill>or ffprobe
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13:29<godofredo>Olá pessoal...
13:29<themill>!br
13:29<dpkg>Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues.
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13:30<user01>claro que sim
13:31<user01>dont we have #debian-pt too?
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13:31<themill>sure, but godofredo is from Brazil.
13:31<user01>ah ok just curious
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13:31<godofredo>yes
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13:32<godofredo>i'm new in IRC
13:33<user01>---> /join #debian-br
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13:34<s4br3>I am trying to convert a .flv file for later editing in Kdenlive, as Kdenlive cannot open (and therefore also not convert) these .flv file. What would be the best .flv to another format lossless converter?
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13:36<user01>s4br3, ffmpeg -i "filename.flv" -vcodec copy -acodec copy "filename.mp4"
13:37<godofredo>s4br3, you can use audacity...
13:37<godofredo>its very good for convertions
13:37<s4br3>godofredo: for movies clips?
13:39<user01>s4br3, ffmpeg above will copy video track and audio track from filename.flv to filename.mp4. The operation is lossless
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13:40<godofredo>shure
13:40<s4br3>but should I use avconv with the same commands instead?
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13:41<s4br3>I get some warnings from ffmpeg
13:42<godofredo>.flv files... ffmpeg requires a good knowledge of the options...
13:42<godofredo>oh no
13:42<godofredo>sorry
13:43<user01>you can try avconv if you want havent used it yet
13:43<godofredo>I am wrong
13:43<s4br3>Oh my! I was prepared to wait minutes for the copy, but it took milliseconds
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13:45<godofredo>transmaggedom works, but It takes a long
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13:49<s4br3>Whoaw! That was really fast! Thanks for this script, I did ten fairly large files manually in less than a minutes
13:49<s4br3>Whoaw! That was really fast! Thanks for this script, I did ten fairly large files manually in less than a minute
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14:08<rgms>Hi. I'm unable to boot because of apparently my ISPs DHCP servers aren't working. I'm just getting DHCPREQUEST and DHCPOFFER looping forever
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14:09<rgms>^C or ^Z not working
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14:35<AlexLikeRock>hola gente
14:36<AlexLikeRock>!es
14:36<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
14:36<AlexLikeRock>ha ha ha ha :D
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14:43<s4br3>Thanks for the help it worked fine!
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15:05<babilen>AlexLikeRock: Please refrain from doing that (i.e. needlessly invoking the bot). I would also strongly recommend to join a Spanish speaking channel such as #debian-es.
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15:09<AlexLikeRock>babilen, okç
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15:16<bch>Hello, what packages do I need for playing sound ( I have installed debian without gnome/xfce/kde)
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15:18<haylo>alsa
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15:18<haylo>alsactl init
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15:19<haylo>'aptitude install alsa' and then 'alsactl inti' to activate the soundcard. thats all i do anyway for my debian netinstalls
15:20<haylo>'alsactl init' sorry typo*
15:20<bch>ah it works. Great
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15:54<thinkerbell>Whats up with debian website, I can't seem to download net install cd for amd64
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15:55<babilen>thinkerbell: Works fine here (http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.5/amd64/iso-cd/debian-6.0.5-amd64-netinst.iso that is)
15:56<thinkerbell>babilen, my bad, thx
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15:58<babilen>thinkerbell: Can you download that image?
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16:10<AlexLikeRock>will back
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16:11<thinkerbell>babilen, yep I got it, but I can't seem to burn to burn to disk, I keep getting write error
16:11<thinkerbell>I am using Brasero to burn
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16:13<dfc>I am trying to get a backtrace of colord. I rebuilt the colord package and have the symbols in colord and I have libc6-dbg installed.
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16:13<scientes>dfc, gdb -p <colord pid>
16:13<scientes>as root
16:14<Marillion>thinkerbell: its could more reasons, bad roling or burn speed to fast
16:14<dfc>scientes: soory i was still typing
16:14<dfc>i ran the backtrace and bt and bt full give no problems
16:15<dfc>however when i run thread apply all bt full i am getting symbol table ot available
16:15<dfc>#1 0x00007ffff6400a80 in ?? () at pthread_create.c:217 from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0
16:15<dfc>No symbol table info available.
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16:16<dfc>how can i determine what I need to install inorder to get rid of the symbol info error
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16:17<scientes>dfc, maybe you upgraded libc, but didn't restart colord afterwards?
16:17<scientes>so the -dbg package doesn't match
16:18<dfc>i thought i did. i will reboot and try it again
16:18<dfc>if that does not work can you give me any pointers? or do you think once i reboot it should work?
16:18<scientes>thats the only thing i can think of
16:19<scientes>new debug packages are sometimes sorted by buildid, instead of name, and you could also check that
16:19<scientes>by using file on the stripped library to get the buildid
16:19<scientes>but i don't thing libc6-dbg uses that
16:20<dfc>would i need to have had libc6-dbg installed when i rebuilt colord?
16:20<scientes>no
16:20<thinkerbell>whats is the program to make disk images from iso's to usb stick
16:20<scientes>but it must match the version on libc6-dev
16:21<scientes>and the library
16:21<scientes>actually i don't think the -dev matters
16:21<SynrG>thinkerbell: if it's a hybrid image, like the debian installer or live images, dd will do it
16:21<scientes>or just cat
16:21<scientes>cat foo.iso > /dev/<blah>
16:22<SynrG>make sure you dd or cat to the whole device, not a partition
16:22<SynrG>of course, this replaces the entire contents of the usb stick
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16:22<thinkerbell>SynrG, thx
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16:25<dfc>i have never paid a lot of attention to the messages from apt-get source build
16:25<dfc>is it normal to have a lot of messages that say:
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16:26<dfc> package could avoid a useless dependency if blah were not linked against other_blah
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16:26<scientes>dfc, when i have sent patches to change those...like linking against gtk instead of gnome, they have not been accepted
16:27<dfc>okay
16:27<scientes>basically that just means that the package is linking against a big collect of libraries, like gnome
16:27<scientes>when it does use it all
16:27<dfc>thanks scientes
16:27<dfc>colord is a nightmare of a package
16:27<scientes>and the warning means you have extraneous dependancies, but this isn't a problem if you have the software already installed
16:27<dfc>i am not sure the maintainer has a lot of time for it
16:27<scientes>however colord shouldn't have extraneous dependancies...
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16:28<dfc>i am going to reboot and give it a try
16:28<dfc>thanks for your help
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16:39<dfc>scientes: i am still getting the error about symbol table after a reboot
16:39<scientes>well i dont know
16:39<dfc>do i need to have the linux-image- dbg package installed?
16:39<scientes>no
16:40<scientes>did you compile it 32-bit and have the -dbg for 64 bit and visa-versa?
16:40<dfc>i noticed that it says:
16:40<dfc>Using host libthread_db library "/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libthread_db.so.1".
16:40<scientes>yeah it always does that
16:40<scientes>thats the thread support in gdb
16:40<dfc>shouldnt it say
16:40<dfc>/usr/lib/debug/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libthread_db-1.0.so
16:40<scientes>nope
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16:40<scientes>it always says that
16:40<dfc>okay
16:41<dfc>thanks for your help
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16:53<Gio28Fat>hi
16:53<retrospectacus>hey
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17:08<canaima>hh
17:08<canaima>hola
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17:08<canaima>:)
17:09<canaima>quien quiere hablar?
17:10<canaima>ablaen por favor
17:10<pparadis>!es
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17:10<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
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17:21<joe>hi
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17:21<joeG>hi
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17:28<joeG>how do I find the firmware for my wireless nic?
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17:28<ompaul>!tell joeG about wireless
17:29<ompaul>joeG: have a look at the factoid from the bot - it tells you all the horrible sekrits ;-)
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17:29<antonio>hola
17:29<joeG>ompaul, thx
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17:29<antonio>whats app?
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17:30<ompaul>antonio: are you using debian yet?
17:30<joeG>!broadcom
17:30<dpkg>Broadcom Corporation is an integrated circuits supplier. For wireless LAN chipset drivers, ask me about <b43>, <brcmsmac>, <rndis_wlan>, <wl>. For Ethernet controller support, ask me about <bnx2>, <bnx2x>, <tg3>.
17:30<antonio>yes
17:30<antonio>xubuntu
17:30<antonio>it's non debian, but il free
17:30<ompaul>!tell joeG about tell
17:30<antonio>*not
17:31<ompaul>antonio: go to #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net we don't help with that here
17:31<antonio>ok thanks
17:31<ompaul>joeG: the bot does self help ;-)
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17:32<joeG>How do I force install of google chrome, not the chromium. Because I am getting libcurl3 depedency error
17:33<devil>joeG: there is no chrome in debian
17:33<joeG>devil, oh, ok, nevermind then
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17:35<joeG>!tell broadcom
17:36<joeG>!dpkg broadcom
17:36<dpkg>Broadcom Corporation is an integrated circuits supplier. For wireless LAN chipset drivers, ask me about <b43>, <brcmsmac>, <rndis_wlan>, <wl>. For Ethernet controller support, ask me about <bnx2>, <bnx2x>, <tg3>.
17:36<joeG>!dpkg tell broadcom
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17:37<joeG>I have Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN, I am not sure about driver
17:38<Marillion>joeG: use b43
17:38<joeG>Marillion, thx
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17:41<joeG>what's up with security.debian.org, I keep getting connection unreachable
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17:42<Marillion>joeG: your network is broken like ISP
17:42<joeG>Marillion, I see 4 different b43 packages, there is a fwcutter one, installer, lpphy-installer, and legacy-installer, should I install them all?
17:43<joeG>Marillion, hmm, its the net connection eh, I thought maybe it was debian, cause the rest of the sources were hitting fine, just the one security hits were failing
17:43<abrotman>it's a round robin, one might be down
17:43<Marillion>joeG: i don't which one your need, google there, sorry
17:43<abrotman>joeG: lspci -nn .. we need the actual PCI ID
17:43<Marillion>abrotman: sure? its up from here
17:44<abrotman>do you know what round robin means?
17:44<abrotman>dpkg: tell joeG about bcm4311
17:45<joeG>BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN" -r01 "Hewlett-Packard Company" "BCM4311 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller"
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17:45<abrotman>that's not -nn
17:45<abrotman>but anyway, see what the bot told you
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17:46<joeG>abrotman, thx
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18:08<joe>!dpkg b43
18:08<dpkg>b43 is a driver supporting PCI/PCI-E wireless LAN devices with Broadcom chips, part of the Linux kernel. Firmware is required, ask me about <b43-fwcutter> to provide. 802.11b-only devices and BCM4306 rev 2 are instead supported by <b43legacy>. For BCM4313/4321/4322/43224/43225 (802.11n) device support, ask me about <brcm80211>, <wl>. http://wiki.debian.org/bcm43xx #bcm-users on irc.freenode.net.
18:10<joe>!dpkg b43-cutter
18:10<joe>!dpkg b43-fwcutter
18:10<dpkg>b43-fwcutter is a tool to extract version 4 and 3 firmware from Broadcom's proprietary drivers, for use by the <b43> and <b43legacy> drivers respectively. Packaged in <contrib>, see http://wiki.debian.org/bcm43xx#b43-b43legacy for further details. The b43-fwcutter package does not download firmware, install the relevant installer package ("apt-cache search firmware-b43").
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18:12<weasel>dpkg: tell joe about selftell
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18:19<joe>How do I know if my wifi is workable, or that I have a driver up and running?
18:19<joe>I tried to use wifi-radar, but it gets error
18:20<retrospectacus>"iwconfig"
18:20<joe>error: interface doesn't support scanning
18:20<joe>retrospectacus, thx
18:20<joe>retrospectacus, so if I see a wlan there, it means I have my driver working fine?
18:22<joe>Anyone know how to use wind mobile wireless stick?
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18:22<devil>joe: the make of the stick usualy does not matter
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18:23<joe>devil, oh, its not a wifi card, it a wife network connection stick, know what I mean?
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18:24<devil>joe: it's good practice to 'modprobe -r <module> && modprobe <module>' or reboot instead
18:24<devil>joe: it does not matter, the chipset is what makes the difference
18:25<joe>devil, so I should lspci then eh
18:25<retrospectacus>-nn
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18:25<joe>devil, wind mobile is like an anywhere you go wireless usb stick
18:25<devil>joe: you are not joeG?
18:25<joe>devil, yes
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18:26<devil>i thought you had your driver installed already? (b43)?
18:27<joeG>devil, that is the built in wifi card, but I have this wifi usb stick for connection to internet anywhere, its called Wind Mobile, I just plug this usb stick and I can connect to the wind mobile internet connection, I don't have to be at my home, it works anywhere, know what I mean, I am not sure if it has a built in nic or it uses the onboard wifi nic or what exactly
18:27<devil>if not, please provide the usb-id by running lsusb -VV
18:27<devil>if not, please provide the usb-id by running lsusb -vv
18:27<abrotman>thought it was pci ?
18:27<devil>joeG: oh, sorry, i missed that
18:28<joeG>Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd. E1552 (HSPA modem)
18:28<devil>joeG: so that is a 3G stick
18:28<devil>not regular wifi
18:28<joeG>abrotman, oh no, I am pretty sure that is working fine, this is a wifi usb stick
18:28<joeG>devil, oh, I see
18:28<devil>joeG: if you are using networkmanager, it should see it
18:28<abrotman>oh ..
18:29<joeG>Do you think I can work it with Debian?
18:29<devil>joeG: make sure, usb-modeswitch is installed
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18:29<joeG>devil, thx
18:30<joeG>So, what networkmanager should I install?
18:30<devil>joeG: what DE are you using?
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18:31<joeG>devil, xfce4
18:31<devil>joeG: you could also use wvdial, if you do not like nm
18:31<joeG>devil, sweet
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18:32<devil>for xfce you would want network-manager-gnome and modemmanager
18:32<joeG>I am getting error: cannot open /dev/modem: No such file or dir
18:33<joeG>devil, ok, let me see, but I think I should have a /dev/modem already
18:33<devil>joeG: you need usb-modeswitch first
18:33<joeG>devil, I must be missing some other package
18:33<joeG>devil, yep, I installed that first
18:34<joeG>devil, I don't have modemmanager though, let me see then
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18:36<devil>i would reboot after installing usb-modeswitch, I know of no other way of it picking up your stick
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18:36<joeG>devil, ok, brb then
18:36<joeG>devil, thx
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18:39<joeG>hi
18:39<joeG>reboot didn't help, I am still getting error from wvdial, cannot open /dev/modem: no such file or dir
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18:44<Marillion>joeG: look at dmesg whats the reason why, and be sure you have the firmware installed, usually create udev the rule
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18:46<joeG>Marillion, no, I have a plug in usb stick that provides 3g internet connection
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18:48<Marillion>this is not the reason, your kernel must knowing that too
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18:48<joeG>Marillion, hmm, not sure
18:48<abrotman>joeG: you know .. wvdial doesn't have to use /dev/modem
18:51<joeG>how do I start network-manager-gnome, cause I installed it, but I can't find it in the programs
18:53<abrotman>it hsould have started when you logged in
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18:54<joeG>abrotman, oh thats right
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18:55<joeG>brb
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18:57<dfc>is there a utility that will extract mime attachments out of input from stdin/on the commandline?
18:58<abrotman>mimedefang ?
18:59<dfc>i thought that stripped the attachements. I want the opposite.
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19:00<abrotman>oh, you want to svae them, misread
19:00<joeG>I have wind mobile card, and I think in windows it automatically dials the correct phone number and enters user/name password, so if I had to manually enter this info for debian's network manager, ....dunno where to get the info
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19:01*abrotman would be concerned if he didn't know his own login/password for an ISP
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19:06<joeG>abrotman, it connect auto in windows, so my friend doesn't really know, but I am calling wind mobile to get the APN(AccessPointName) to start with
19:07<pparadis>dfc: you could use stuff in the MIME package namespace for perl, such as this --> http://search.cpan.org/dist/MIME-tools/lib/MIME/Parser.pm
19:07<dfc>pparadis: i found it> mpack/munpack
19:07<pparadis>dfc: also --> http://search.cpan.org/~dskoll/MIME-tools-5.503/lib/MIME/Tools.pm
19:07<pparadis>dfc: good deal :)
19:07<dfc>thanks though
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19:14<joeG>my laptop has a mute and volume button, how would I go about setting it up?
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19:28<infinity01>when are we expected to have foreign-architecture support in dpkg? http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/Issues
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19:28<abrotman>with which version of Debian?
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19:33<infinity01>abrotman: wheezy/sid
19:33<abrotman>already there
19:33<themill>wheezy has had multiarch support for a couple of months
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19:34<infinity01>i mean the foreign-architecture option
19:34<infinity01>that's not working yet
19:34<themill>in what way?
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19:35<abrotman>infinity01: have you actually tried it?
19:35<infinity01>yeah
19:35<abrotman>and what didn't work ?
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19:35<infinity01>$ dpkg -l dpkg
19:35<infinity01>dpkg: error: configuration error: /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/90_multiarch:1: unknown option 'foreign-architecture'
19:35<infinity01>2
19:35<dpkg>infinity01: You are person #1 to send an unparseable request
19:36<pparadis>http://paste.debian.net
19:36<abrotman>infinity01: i'm on wheezy, works fine here
19:37<infinity01>which version of dpkg?
19:37<themill>infinity01: what version of dpkg do you have there?
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19:37<infinity01>1.16.4.2
19:37<themill>that's the ubuntu syntax, I think
19:37<infinity01>oh
19:40<infinity01>why's it different?
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19:42<themill>infinity01: because ubuntu likes forking things
19:43<infinity01>when i get things like "x : Conflicts x:i386 but v is to be installed / x:i386 : Conflicts x but v is installed"
19:43<infinity01>does that mean that package isn't multiarch enabled yet
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19:47<pparadis>themill: where forking is used as a euphemism, right? ;)
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19:49<themill>You might very well think that; I couldn't possibly comment.
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20:26<MrTwisT>hi all
20:27<MrTwisT>having a weird issue with "acpi -t" on debian with a pentium 4
20:28<MrTwisT>temperature is rarely updated and is stuck at some value for long periods of time
20:28<MrTwisT>anyone familiar with this issue?
20:29<MrTwisT>apparently Ubuntu had the exact same issue but the ticket was closed due to being expired
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20:53<sney>MrTwisT: could be buggy reporting from the bios
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20:58<ukine>anyone know what i could use for a taskbar on openbox, and if it has a notification area supporting networkmanager applet?
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21:13<Techy2493>Hi
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21:16<sney>hi
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21:39<krystal>hey is there a way to remove an app?
21:39<pparadis>krystal: yes. the usual methods are "apt-get remove appname" and similar commands.
21:40<krystal>ok so I have to do it in the terminal?
21:40<pparadis>krystal: what version of debian are you running, what are you trying to remove, how did you install it to begin with, etc?
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21:41<krystal>I am not running debian... I am running bodhi, and I am trying to remove play on linux. I am having issues getting Star Trek online to play... So I am going to try crossover
21:41<pparadis>sorry, only debian is supported here.
21:42<krystal>I know...
21:42<pparadis>!tell krystal about based on debian
21:43<seeS>is that even based on debian?
21:43<pparadis>loosely, it's based on ubuntu
21:43<pparadis>so eventually yeah it tracks back
21:44<seeS>cool
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21:57<Ormie>hello :(
21:57<Ormie>I don't feel good 'bout this
21:58<Ormie>I downloaded the DVD Edition, I have to turn the computer on over night
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21:58<Ormie>Shall I switch to CD instead?
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22:00<Ormie>what else does DVD have but CD does not have ( I know about extra packages that CD lacks)?
22:01<Ormie>no one answers...
22:01<Ormie>nvm
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22:01<sney>dvd edition?
22:01<sney>welp
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22:04<pparadis>sney: yeah... i was typing a reply too, but it appears Ormie isn't terribly patient.
22:05<sney>aye
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22:15<ratnick>I found http://ftp.de.debian.org/dmc/today/ Now am running a small footprint assembly of packages after the utility install of the base system. Just what I wanted. Barely any eye candy and only the apps I want.
22:15<Techy2493>Hi,
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22:16<sney>hi
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22:18<ratnick>ftp.us.debian.org has problems. The http is ok. rsync is down too.
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22:20<Techy2493>I was hoping someone could direct me in the right direction, I'm trying to find where the equivalent of C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jdk1.7.0_04\jre\bin\client\jvm.dll is on my machine (I have java 6 installed but the paths should be basically the same just diff version numbers probably) I've look in bin and usr/local and can't find it :S
22:22<sney>well, dlls are a windows thing. on linux systems you're looking for a .so file
22:22<Techy2493> yeah, I've been looking for a .so equivolent
22:23<sney>install apt-file, and run 'apt-file list sun-java6-jre' - that'll give you a list of all the files in the package and where they go
22:23<Techy2493>from my root directory find jvm.so is telling my there is no such file, but I don't use find enough to know what i;', doing wrong
22:23<Techy2493>ahh
22:23<Techy2493>THANK YOU!
22:23<sney>or the openjdk package depending on which one you have
22:23<sney>np
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22:36<luninux>how to join that
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22:37<abrotman>join what?
22:37<ratnick>if local copies of fetched packages are in "/var/cache/apt/packages", are these the same as what is installed in the base system?
22:37<luninux>ya
22:38<Techy2493>So I've checked both the jre and jdk and there is no libjvm.so (Supposedly linux's equivolent of jvm.dll) in either package, and I'm confused, does anyone have any experience with using the java virtual machine on linux, and initiating a vm, I know that to do it it uses jvm.dll on widnows, am I missing something here?
22:38<abrotman>Techy2493: aptitude install apt-file;apt-file update;apt-file search libjvm.so
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22:39<Techy2493>thank you
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22:41<ratnick>/var/lib/dpkg/status ?
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22:42<abrotman>what?
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22:43<ratnick>I want to list installed packages
22:43<kop`>ratnick: aptitude search '~i'
22:43<ratnick>more thank you's
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22:50<Ormie>hello, can some one gimme a suggestion?
22:51<Ormie>nvm
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22:56*Hydroxide raises an eyebrow at Ormie's inquiry :)
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23:12*scientes Suggests: --install-suggests
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23:58<Techy2493>Can anyone help me decipher this, ./DoomStation_Start: line 6: /usr/local/bin/DreamDaemon: No such file or directory
23:58<Techy2493> is DreamDaemon saying no such file or is the script i am running?>
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