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#debian IRC Logs for 2012-06-26

---Logopened Tue Jun 26 00:00:35 2012
---Daychanged Tue Jun 26 2012
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00:06<scientes>init[dot]d, check if you are running fedora or rhel, or centos or suse, and if you are really running debian, then look in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/*
00:06<init[dot]d>how would I check that?
00:06<init[dot]d>uname
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00:08<init[dot]d>/etc/apt/apt.conf.d$ ls 00trustcdrom 01autoremove 70debconf
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00:23<init[dot]d>this is dang annoying it is
00:24<init[dot]d>cant install anything due to ftp issue bug
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00:45<grepper_>init[dot]d: can't you just use a http mirror in the meantime as a workaround ?
00:46<init[dot]d>wont let me
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00:46<init[dot]d>I have to use apt-get install (whatever here ) and keep doing it about 8 times before it will download
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01:44<init[dot]d>any git contributors in here?
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03:13<wferi>Hi! What's the status of the read-only root project in wheezy? did it become feasible?
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03:14<wferi>I've been running with read-only /usr, but now wonder if separate /usr still makes sense for new wheezy installations.
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03:38<warez_proprietor>so who's going shareware?
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03:39<warez_proprietor>i got a few options.
03:39<warez_proprietor>\^/
03:40<misery>wferi, ro /usr worked fine in 5... havent tried later versions.
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03:41<wferi>thanks, misery, I've been using ro /usr since ages, it works fine indeed
03:41<wferi>but I always wanted ro /, actually
03:42<wferi>that just wasn't feasible
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03:42<misery>so i see... no comment.
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03:43<misery>ahem. making all those partitions would be a pain in the butt though.
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03:50<bo>okay.
03:50<bo>so.
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03:51<bo>okay man.
03:51<bo>so.
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03:52<bo>can someone show me how can programs calculate when on IDEs?
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03:53<bo>okay.
03:53<init[dot]d>wha?
03:53<bo>does anyone know how to use root when in the restroom?
03:53<misery>retard.
03:53<init[dot]d>shake it?
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03:54<bo>okay.
03:54<bo>so.
03:55<init[dot]d>a needle pulling thread
03:55<bo>init[dot]d: would you be my friend?
03:55<init[dot]d>sure just be friendly
03:55<bo>okay.
03:55<bo>thanks.
03:55<bo>so.
03:56<init[dot]d>a needle pulling thread
03:56<bo>could you show me where to find resources on howtos for that style?
03:57<bo>nothx.
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03:57<bo>okay.
03:57<bo>so.
03:58<init[dot]d>k
03:58<bo>init[dot]d: hi.
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03:58<init[dot]d>ohai
03:59<bo>okay init.
03:59<bo>we need to do this easy.
03:59<init[dot]d>k
04:00<bo>you show me where the restroom leads to the bedroom, i'll show you where my apps and programs are.
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04:00<init[dot]d>how bout I hard ping your open ports till I can upload my data packets to your hot willing server
04:01<bo>;/
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04:01<bo>okay.
04:01<bo>so.
04:02<bo>howto use it man pages.
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04:04<bo>brbo.
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04:07<misery>eh. another shit-for-brains from phillippines.
04:07<init[dot]d>yupp
04:07<init[dot]d>never fails
04:08<misery>used to be taiwan
04:08<init[dot]d>mmmm
04:08<init[dot]d>bangcok
04:10<misery>hah, and it *is* 1 l. dammit.
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04:11<misery>also bangkok
04:11<misery>or something similar
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04:15<init[dot]d>true
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04:19<welly>can someone help me with my debian question?
04:19<init[dot]d>there was a question in here?
04:19<init[dot]d>shoot
04:19<welly>ok bo.
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04:21<misery>frankly, youve been spouting 'so's and 'okay's so often for no reason, that you couldnt possibly come up with anything sensible to ask.
04:21<misery>i suspect you have brain damage, you should see a doctor.
04:22<init[dot]d>^^
04:22<bo>should i use sources from savannah?
04:22<init[dot]d>go for it
04:22<bo>haven't checked it out in a while.
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04:24<bo>afk...
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04:37<lime>hi
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04:38<misery>yo
04:39<lime>yo
04:39<lime>new to irc tried this so many times but never hooked to it
04:39<lime>this time with linux though :D
04:39<misery>its pretty stupid
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04:40<lime>yea..a great way to chat but gotta be simple and no commands on chat thingy :D Terminal does enough alredy
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04:41<misery>what? eh forget it, i dont want to know.
04:41<lime>yea chuck it
04:41<misery>whats your question.
04:41<misery>or are you here to try to help others
04:41<lime>so what interest you, linux enthusiast?
04:42<init[dot]d>lol
04:42<misery>habit.
04:42<lime>help and give something to get a help
04:42<init[dot]d>python
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04:44<lime>questions plz :P i gotta jet to catch
04:45<misery>some guy with brain damage will be back soon i guess to ask... something nobody can figure out...
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04:45<misery>how goods your ESP skills?
04:45<lime>did you talk espionage?
04:45<misery>Extra Sensory Perception
04:46<init[dot]d>:O
04:46<init[dot]d>I sense a disturbance in the force Luke
04:46<misery>i think he wants to download all of savannahs projects or somethnig.
04:46<lime>well yea, its a perception
04:46<init[dot]d>download all the interwebz
04:46<misery>yeah.
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04:47<init[dot]d>in prep for sopa
04:47<lime>m up to download the whole internet!
04:47<misery>haha
04:47<init[dot]d>hold on you got to see this pic
04:47<init[dot]d>lol
04:47<lime>sopa! ohu these soaps are so irritating
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04:50<init[dot]d>http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/1332554_700b.jpg
04:50<init[dot]d>that is a bit funny
04:50<lime>i suppose sopa will raise lot of jobs. they need people to keep watching those garbage in network
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04:50<misery>lime sorry to say, you might be a little left out on this joke, my friend. that wasnt a misspell
04:51<lime>Ha ha
04:51<lime>m sorry, in a lil bored and funny mood
04:51<misery>wiki it if needed... its pretty stupid
04:51<init[dot]d>damn stupid
04:52<init[dot]d>we gonna have to go back to secure dropboxes and wall mounted usbs with files
04:52<misery>basically cuts of U$A from rest of world... oh no!
04:53<lime>yea, but what happens is really diff. is'nt FB giving a system to everyone to be watched and monitors
04:53<lime>monitored
04:54<misery>well, you know facebook is american, so...
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04:54<lime>:)
04:54<misery>if it actually works, im totally looking forward to it. :)
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04:55<lime>yea, if it works. all it gets is something better to insurance agents and advertisement databases. every information is sold many times
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04:56<misery>yeah, guess where most of those come from too
04:56<lime>india
04:56<init[dot]d>I wish I could negotiate a hack on all the credit reporting agencies and just delete every record
04:56<lime>tell me if m wrong
04:57<init[dot]d>that way everyone is back to good credit :)
04:57<misery>USA
04:57<lime>it gets sick when i discover my every click is analysed for better google results.
04:58*themill points towards #debian-offtopic
04:58<lime>so much to stay online
04:58<misery>init[dot]d, youre american arent you? 'credit reporting' isnt a serious thing in the rest of the world.
04:58<init[dot]d>yupp
04:58<init[dot]d>USA
04:58<lime>i have a serious question
04:59<init[dot]d>here it is killing the economy
04:59<lime>can i slip in
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04:59<init[dot]d>only if she is wet enough
04:59<misery>shoot. as TheMill is trying to say, this is offtopic
04:59<init[dot]d>or sufficient lube
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04:59<grove>lime: Please do
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05:00<lime>after a long hours and efforts i can now route my debian internet (LAN) to an android phone. reverse bridging.
05:00<lime>the problem is, google play appstore requires a wifi-connectivity
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05:01<lime>:( been month that i arrived at this reverse thing now only to find the appstore doesn't work
05:01<heikkila>Debian doesn't have an appstore
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05:02<init[dot]d>lime, so wuts the issue?
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05:03<lime>sorry init, i mean the android phone is using the LAN internet. i can surf the internet. But appstores won't login rather get authenticated with a LAN connection. When i switch to wi-fi connection, it does!
05:03<init[dot]d>that is strange
05:03<init[dot]d>my droid doesnt need wifi just an IP
05:04<lime>LAN by connecting the device with usb cable. then i do reverse briding in the linux box and my android uses the computer's internet
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05:05<lime>really? you connect droid to computer lan internet through USB cable. And still manage to log into google play appstore
05:05<init[dot]d>no
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05:05<init[dot]d>I use my service provider like a good American :P
05:05<heikkila>lime, there is #android on Freenode, maybe they can help
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05:06<lime>he he, dude i have to security test things. and this can help me in my further research into android security
05:08<lime>to a vague thought, i have to allow some ssl ports or channelize ssl connection on usb
05:08<misery>ethereal or whatsitsface... uhm... wireshark might help
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05:08<init[dot]d>thar ya go
05:08<misery>if youre that anal about it
05:10<init[dot]d>mmmmm
05:10<init[dot]d>oh sorry
05:10<init[dot]d>init.d restart
05:10<lime>lolz
05:11<lime>seriously! i shall try this
05:11<init[dot]d>sudo cd / && wget http://*.*
05:11<init[dot]d>:P
05:11<lime>i can surf through internet. just the appstores won't authenticate
05:12<lime>brb i hope i get an enlightened idea in the loo :P pardon me
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05:13<misery>yeah ok, enough about anuses :)
05:13<init[dot]d>mmmm
05:13<init[dot]d>I mean
05:13<init[dot]d>ikr
05:13<misery>next the american will be misspelling arse...
05:13<init[dot]d>arse?
05:14<misery>what you consistantly misspell as 'ass'. which is actually a female donkey
05:14<misery>:)
05:15<init[dot]d>true
05:15<themill>Is there *any* chance of us returning to debian user support here?
05:15<init[dot]d>yah
05:15<init[dot]d>omg
05:15<misery>hes gone for a crap, were just being silly while we wait. calm down.
05:15<init[dot]d>I just realized this wasnt 2600
05:15*init[dot]d derps
05:16<grove>If you can't talk about debain just shut up
05:16<grove>s/debain/debian/
05:16<init[dot]d>lol
05:16*misery *facepalm*
05:16*init[dot]d facedesks
05:17-!-mode/#debian [+o Maulkin] by ChanServ
05:17<init[dot]d>grove is this the truth?
05:17<init[dot]d>http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/1332554_700b.jpg
05:17-!-mode/#debian [+q *!*@216.201.66.220] by Maulkin
05:17-!-mode/#debian [+q *!*@110-175-228-227.static.tpgi.com.au] by Maulkin
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05:18<@Maulkin>This channel is reserved for Debian support. #moocows may be a better place for your random chatting. Thanks.
05:18-!-mode/#debian [-o Maulkin] by Maulkin
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05:21<boa>okay.
05:21<boa>so.
05:23<lime>:D
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05:23<lime>yea its for debian. true that! and so i kept mentioning debian in the middle
05:23<lime>:D
05:24<themill>lime: appstore authentication problems sound a like a question for appstore support people.
05:25<lime>it ain't but yea i shall chuck the topic
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05:27-!-mode/#debian [-q *!*@216.201.66.220] by Maulkin
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05:29<Maulkin>init[dot]d / misery : Please try and stay on topic.
05:29<init[dot]d>hypothetically speaking.... If I use debian without desktop env_ how would I have multiple terminals?
05:29<init[dot]d>screen?
05:29*init[dot]d salutes
05:29<init[dot]d>roger that
05:29<grove>screen or tmux
05:30<Maulkin>init[dot]d: I would normally suggest screen or tmux.
05:30<init[dot]d>I never used screen before whats the command to start a new one?
05:30<weasel>screen.
05:30<init[dot]d>o
05:30<init[dot]d>so everytime I need a new screen just "screen"
05:31<themill>it has a rather extensive man page/.
05:31<weasel>read the manpage. it's quite good.
05:31<grove>init[dot]d: read the man page
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05:31<init[dot]d>k
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05:34<init[dot]d>also any update on the apt bug with passive FTP issues?
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05:35<themill>divining bug numbers by ESP is harder than you think
05:35<init[dot]d>nu uh
05:35<SynrG>and in any case, looking up the bug yourself by its bug number is the best way to get the latest scoop on its status
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05:36<SynrG>and ftp? i thought it was dead
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05:36<Woet>SynrG: every single webhost uses it.
05:36<SynrG>s/dead/mostly irrelevant/
05:37<themill>none that I'd touch
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05:41<Maulkin>Woet: For some values of 'every'
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05:41<Woet>Maulkin: 99,9%
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05:41<graff_>for games right?
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05:43<Maulkin>Woet: [citation needed]
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05:44<Woet>Maulkin: can you show me a webhost that doesn't offer FTP? :p
05:45<init[dot]d>I can do that
05:45<init[dot]d>you want a web server and no FTP no prob
05:45<Maulkin>Woet: cheddar.halon.org.uk
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05:45<Woet>Maulkin: a webhost with an actual website
05:46<Maulkin>Woet: It has plenty of actual websites
05:46<Woet>.. no, the webhost itself
05:46*Woet sighs
05:46<Maulkin>Woet: for example, www.julianhuppert.co.uk
05:46<Maulkin>s/co/org
05:47<Maulkin>Woet: I'm still waiting for your citation. You can't say X, and then say "show me not X"
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05:47<Woet>Maulkin: my citation is myself. I have never come across a webhost without FTP.
05:47<Maulkin>Woet: I just pointed you at one.
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05:48<Maulkin>This is also irrelivent for Debian support.
05:48*Maulkin slaps self on wrist
05:48<init[dot]d>:O
05:48<Woet>Maulkin: I mean, a webhost with a website, with pricing on the website, etc.
05:48<init[dot]d>alezfreehosting.org
05:48<init[dot]d>kthnx
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05:49<Woet>init[dot]d: http://www.alezfreehosting.org/index.php?ind=webhosting - FTP account
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05:49<init[dot]d>yupp
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05:49<init[dot]d>but you can have an account with no ftp if you would like
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05:50<init[dot]d>graff_, ?
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06:05<SynrG>(on bus, so not seeing this in realtime -- hope this is not out of context): returning to the original inquiry re apt and ftp, why use ftp with apt? that's a whole different use case than web hosting ... i don't really see the need for it. generally one can use http with apt instead
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06:07<init[dot]d>mostly due to (deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free)
06:07<init[dot]d>ish ftp
06:07<misery>SynrG, didnt catch the 1st part of your query, and this is totally offtopic, but ftp is slightly faster. not enough to really care about though.
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06:29<bo>so.
06:29<bo>okay.
06:29<bo>we can make this easy.
06:29<bo>if.
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06:32<bitterpennies>I usually use network-manager with openvpn-gnome on debian squeeze gnome, no problems. I just installed debian squeeze lxde, installed nm (no recommends), and it works fine. I installed openvpn-gnome with it, and when i try to connect to it, it immediately notifies me "cant connect openvpn, no vpn secret... (paraphrase)". I connected with openvpn with commandline to test, and it works fine. Any suggestions?
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06:35<SynrG>misery: it wasn't my inquiry. someone asked about the status of a bug (bug# not cited) in apt re passive ftp, so i was wondering what that person's use case was
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06:36<SynrG>init[dot]d: care to comment, since i can now see in my backlog it was you who asked
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06:45<misery>seems like he gave up in discust eh? yet theres still this clown spouting meaningless 1 word lines that no one is doing anything about.
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06:52<SynrG>init[dot]d: yes, but that doesn't tell me *why* you're using that instead of http:, which is the default
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06:55<SynrG>init[dot]d: unrelated to that, i suggest you pick a single mirror that works best for you rather than using DNS rotation like that, as it is not entirely uncommon for one host in the rotation to have issues, leading to strange problems that seem to come and go from one run to the next
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08:11<coolpixxx>hi all, some problem nikon coolpix p7100 give me unexpected error with f-spot:-(
08:11<coolpixxx>any suggestions?
08:12<coolpixxx>except use wins:-)
08:13<grove>coolpixxx: Tell us what you tried and what happened
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08:14<coolpixxx>try to import photos and receive unexpected error msg window, camera seen as usb ptp camera
08:14<coolpixxx>two or three times
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08:17<rgms>Hi. Is there a way to change the interface eth2 to eth1 and vice versa?
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08:18<daemonkeeper>!70
08:18<dpkg>udev has the ability to statically rename Ethernet cards based on MAC address. The addresses are configured in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules, edit this file to change the mappings. To apply changes: "udevadm trigger" or reload the relevant driver module. See also <forcedeth mac>, <udev>.
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08:20<rgms>thank you :)
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08:23<coolpixxx>thanks for attention, if any solution presents, pls let me know via pm
08:23<coolpixxx>be here for ~20~40 minutes
08:23<pparadis>coolpixxx: what version of debian are you running?
08:24<coolpixxx>6.0
08:24<coolpixxx>with all updates
08:24<pparadis>coolpixxx: what specific errors did you get? please pastebin them to http://paste.debian.net so others can try to help you.
08:24<pparadis>also, PMs are not encouraged.
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08:27<abrotman>coolpixxx: does the camera have another mode to try?
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08:28<coolpixxx>2 abrotman no, only "import" feature in f-spot or shotwell
08:29<coolpixxx>now trying gphoto2 -P
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08:29<abrotman>coolpixxx: i meant another mode besides PTP
08:30<coolpixxx>i dont understand what this mean:-)
08:30<coolpixxx>cozy user:-)
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08:31<abrotman>i don't understand what that means
08:33<coolpixxx>from what can i get another mode?
08:33<coolpixxx>what app?
08:34<coolpixxx>gphoto2 -P --debug > http://paste.debian.net/176399/
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08:36<coolpixxx>seems no support for that device, m i right?
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08:37<abrotman>from your camera
08:37<abrotman>look at the settings
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08:40<coolpixxx>copying has two big options 'in' and 'out', other settings magic words?
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08:42<coolpixxx>yeah, printing present
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08:58<coolpixxx>any help? have to do something rapidly with this trouble:-(
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08:59<ayaka>I can use copy mode in screen, but in tmux , I press space, there is not anything happened
09:01<coolpixxx>thanks and bye, have what i have:-)
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09:16<mariamiguel>hola
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09:26<ShimaCZ>Zdravim, mluvi tu nekdo cesky?
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09:39<ShimaCZ>Could someone please help me with installation of Debian?
09:39<ShimaCZ>I can`t get working installation from USB Flash drive. When I will try to copy mini.iso to flash drive
09:39<ShimaCZ># cat debian.iso > sudo /dev/sdb1
09:39<ShimaCZ># sync
09:39<ShimaCZ>like it is said in guide, it seems there is nothing on the flash drive. When I reboot it to boot from flash, system won`t find anything.
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09:42<Sevet>ShimaCZ: > sudo will pipe it into a file named sudo, not /dev/sdb1
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09:44<abrotman>wtf ..
09:44<Sevet>ShimaCZ: try 'sudo dd if=debian.iso of=/dev/sdb1'
09:44<abrotman>this is in the installation manual
09:44<Sevet>and check it really is sdb1 before hitting enter
09:46<Sevet>ShimaCZ: also run sync before removing the usb stick
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09:46<ShimaCZ>I have tried sdb and sdb1 either, Seems it does not matter, I will try Sevet sugestion, thx
09:46<Sevet>cat debian.iso > /dev/sdb1 will work too, but only if you're root
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09:47<ShimaCZ>since I have not used su - for a long time, I have forgotten the password *shamed*
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09:48<Sevet>'sudo su -' ;) also 'sudo passwd'. if you have sudo access to run anything, you can easily get root back
09:48<Sevet>but try the 'sudo dd ...' first
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09:54<grove>or 'cat debian.iso | sudo tee /dev/sdb1 > /dev/null' (but in this case that's just a lot of extra typing)
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11:21<pfrost>why does squeeze backports have kernel images for 3.2.0, but source for 3.2.18? I'm trying to build a kernel for NFS root, and the prebuilt kernel works fine, but if i build from source using the config in /boot, I hang at boot. I'm thinking maybe if they were the same version, I might get more predictable results.
11:22<pfrost>or perahps there is a better way to build a kernel identical to the prebuilt packages?
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11:29<CaBa>pfrost: are you sure that you are taking the source from the bpo repository?
11:30<ompaul>apt-get source linux-image-3.2.0-0.bpo.1-amd64
11:30<ompaul>pfrost: ^^
11:30<CaBa>pfrost: "apt-get source linux" will take the latest kernel available in any of your apt repositories
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11:31<pfrost>i'm doing "apt-get install linux-source-3.2"
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11:31<ompaul>E: Unable to find a source package for linux-image-3.2
11:32<ompaul>pfrost: I guess something is not debian about the box - is it a vps?
11:32<themill>,source linux-source-3.2 --release squeeze-backports
11:32<judd>Package linux-source-3.2 in squeeze-backports -- source: linux-2.6
11:32<pfrost>ompaul: no, it's from squeeze-backports.
11:32<ompaul>pfrost: so is the box I pasted from :)
11:33<pparadis>pfrost: if you're installing something from backports, you need to do "apt-get -t squeeze-backports install blah"
11:33<themill>ompaul: sounds like you are missing a deb-src line for squeeze-backports then
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11:33<ompaul>themill: look back 5 lines or so
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11:33<pfrost>pparadis: understood, but the problem isn't getting the source, it's building it.
11:33<ompaul>themill: I'll check
11:33<pfrost>i already have the source
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11:33<themill>ompaul: check what judd said.
11:34<ompaul>aye
11:34<ompaul>I'm doing much worse than that
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11:34<SynrG>pfrost: you know the difference between the version numbering for images and kernel upstream version numbering, right?
11:34*ompaul goes to fix a rather confused machine and keeps an eye on himself
11:34<pfrost>SynrG: i guess not
11:35<SynrG>in order to not break abi, debian kernels remain the same base version, regardless of the upstream point release number
11:35<SynrG>so linux-image-3.2.0-0.bpo.1-amd64
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11:35<SynrG>is in fact 3.2.18
11:35<SynrG>you can see that in the debian version# for the package.
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11:36<pfrost>ah, hum.
11:36<pparadis>indeed --> http://packages.debian.org/squeeze-backports/linux-image-3.2.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 (linux-image-3.2.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 | 3.2.18-1~bpo60+1)
11:36<SynrG>in an ideal world we would use a two-part version#
11:36<SynrG>but too much software currently assumes three parts
11:37<SynrG>so they stuck with appending .0 until everything catches up
11:37<themill>(this is already changed in experimental)
11:37<pfrost>well, what else could be responsible for my custom kernel not booting?
11:37<SynrG>no idea
11:37<pfrost>i've also noticed that when i build it myself, the resulting package is way huger.
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11:37<pparadis>pfrost: how are you configuring it?
11:37<SynrG>and not in a position to debug. at work & busy
11:37<antit>hi
11:38<SynrG>good luck, though
11:38<pfrost>pparadis: i'm copying /boot/config-3.2.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 to .config
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11:39<pfrost>also oddly, /lib/modules/3.2.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 is 109M, but /lib/modules/3.2.18 is 1.6G. Why does my custom module have so much more modules?
11:39<antit>i wanna try to install shell extention by the website, but impossible, i need to dl the src and install manuely, someone resolve this possible (Testing 64b)
11:39<pfrost>my custom kernel, i mean
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11:40<anbe>pfrost, debug symbols?
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11:41<pfrost>anbe: you might be right...i guess they are included by default? What's the incantation to strip them?
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11:43<anbe>pfrost, I don't know ...
11:43<pfrost>maybe CONFIG_DEBUG_INFO is to blame
11:43<pfrost>ugh.
11:43<pfrost>i thought i was done building kernels in 1998.
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12:05<ShimaCZ>Hello, it is me again. I have encountered problem during instalation. I need connection to internet but I need different MAC adress for it. I have started shell (ash) but there is not utility ifconfig. Is there another way to change MAC adress during installation? I am writing from mobile so googling is a littlebit out of question. Thanks
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12:07<pfrost>ShimaCZ: ip link set eth0 address 02:01:02:03:04:08
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12:09<ShimaCZ>thanks, will try in a moment
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12:18<ShimaCZ>@pfrost thanks a lot, it worked
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13:21<Guest1059>thanks for throwing that smiley into his IP pidgin
13:21<Guest1059>way to make ip6 user friendly
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13:22<MickLH>ahhh yes, my ego, it is alive again
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13:26<gui_user>Is there a tool to scan the list of installed packages for oldlibs and other removals? Manually reviewing the list at wiki.debian.org/ReleaseGoals/RemoveOldLibs and found and purged half a dozen or more...
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13:37<pfrost>so hm...I trying to get debian to boot with an NFS root. It mostly works, but boot hangs just after logging "Starting periodic command scheduler: cron." on the console. Is there something with more verbose output that might give some clue what's hanging?
13:38<pfrost>actually...maybe the problem is simply that inittab isn't starting a login console.
13:40<gui_user>... or is there a list somewhere than I can grep and compare with, eg python-apt?
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14:00<brownBagSpecial>Does anybody have any recommendations for Documentation on securing or hardening Debian?
14:00<Maulkin>http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/
14:01<brownBagSpecial>Thanks I already am looking at that, how up-to-date is that?
14:02<brownBagSpecial>nvm got a timestamp at the end, got anything else?
14:02<KZKG^Gaara>Hi.
14:02<KZKG^Gaara>Has anyone used TorrentFlux?
14:02<brownBagSpecial>I have seen the hardening one too, just looking for all the docs i can find
14:02<KZKG^Gaara>By the way... sorry for my english, it's not my primary language...
14:03<Maulkin>brownBagSpecial: Google may be able to help in that case, or the debian-security mailing list
14:03<craigevil>brownBagSpecial, disable any unneeded services, setup iptables (ufw,firestarter),(Bastille) disable remote logins and root logins, keep your system updated
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14:04<brownBagSpecial>I have a few debian boxes set up already but I'm setting up another just to see if I have missed anything, also I want to build a script to config the stuff for me (I am planning on deploying 4-6 more servers in a month or so)
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14:06<retrospectacus>KZKG^Gaara: what's your question?
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14:07<KZKG^Gaara>retrospectacus: I need some webapp to ... using it, I can download torrents.
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14:07<KZKG^Gaara>retrospectacus: Again ... sorry for my english... sucks I know T_T
14:08<brownBagSpecial>KZKG^Gaara try Transmission Bittorrent Client, comes by default with Debian. Make sure to only download legal torrents!
14:08<retrospectacus>KZKG^Gaara: yes, torrentflux does that, with rtorrent
14:08<KZKG^Gaara>brownBagSpecial: I dont need a client to download torrents (KTorrent, ctorrent in terminal, etc), I need a webapp
14:09<brownBagSpecial>Anybody have any suggestions for PAM configs? is MD5 still secure?
14:09<KZKG^Gaara>And of course, only ISOs and this kind of things
14:10<retrospectacus>KZKG^Gaara: on a remote server install rtorrent. Then you can install a webapp such as torrentflux-ng or rutorrent, that will control rtorrent underneath. That's a "seedbox"
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14:10<KZKG^Gaara>retrospectacus: Ok thanks, I will try it right now :D
14:11<retrospectacus>you can also use rtorrent directly from the CLI but it's pretty hard to use... the webapps are nicer
14:12<KZKG^Gaara>retrospectacus: haha I use ctorrent (terminal), but I want to help a friend of mine, I dont want to give he SSH access to my server
14:13<KZKG^Gaara>retrospectacus: That's why I'm looking for a way to download torrents via web
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14:18<houms>torrentflux
14:18<KZKG^Gaara>houms: TorrentFlux dont works fine :( ...
14:19<KZKG^Gaara>houms: I start a torrent, but in the Pop-Up that appears... it stays there doing nothing, shows no progress or anything :(
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14:19<houms>where did you install torrentflux from?
14:20<houms>you mean the upload pop up box?
14:20<KZKG^Gaara>From Squeeze repo ... -» aptitude install torrentflux
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14:21<KZKG^Gaara>houms: No, I clic on "Start Torrent" (the green arrow) ... the, show me a Pop-Up.
14:21<KZKG^Gaara>houms: In this Pop-Up I clic on the only bottom that appears ... but do nothing
14:22<houms>in the pop-up i assume you click on the check box next to the listing of the actual files in the torrent you want to download
14:22<houms>?
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14:23<KZKG^Gaara>houms: What check box?
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14:24<houms>when i use torrentflux and i up load a file, when i hit the green "start" button next to the torrent file, the pop-up box comes up as described by you
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14:24<houms>but in the box there is a listing of the file or files that the torrent contains that you must select to actually download
14:25<houms>for example if this was a iso for debian , you should see a debianblahblahblah.sio and maybe a README.txt, they both should have a checkmark next to them so you can select which to download
14:25<KZKG^Gaara>Wait, uploading screenshot...
14:26<houms>if you do not select any thing and click ok it will not do anything would be my presumption since you did not select any files from that torrent
14:26<houms>ok
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14:30<KZKG^Gaara>houms: http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/2732/archtorrent.jpg
14:30<KZKG^Gaara>That's the Pop-Up, I click on "Run Torrent" (translated from spanish to english -> Start or Run Torrent), but nothing happens.
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14:31<houms>so you see where the listing for archlinux-2011-08-19-core-blahblahblah? to the right next ot it (to the right) there should be a checkbox to select the actual file
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14:33<tima>какие есть официальные антивирусы для debian-64 бита
14:33<houms>which browser you got?
14:34<KZKG^Gaara>houms: Opera, and test it in Chromium ... but the same issue
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14:34<KZKG^Gaara>I'm opening Firefox now
14:34<houms>KZKG I think it is an issue with that iso
14:34<houms>cause I just tested with this http://cake.lib.fit.edu/archlinux/iso/2011.08.19/
14:34<houms>and am seeing the same thing
14:34<tima>я говорю ТОЛЬКО на RU_ru
14:34<retrospectacus>!ru
14:34<dpkg>Это английскоговорящий канал, пожалуйста, говорите по-английски или посетите #debian-russian (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian)
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14:36<KZKG^Gaara>houms: I can download that ISO from this torrent using ctorrent in terminal
14:36<KZKG^Gaara>houms: I already check the apache's logs ... but nothing weird
14:37<retrospectacus>guys, all I've heard about torrentflux is that it's old and crummy. People prefer the "Next Generation" torrentflux-ng, or rUtorrent which is what I use and it's very nice. Neither are in debian; easy to wget and untar them though, they're just webapps
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14:39<canaima>hola como estas
14:39<KZKG^Gaara>canaima: El canal de español es #debian- es amigo ;)
14:39<KZKG^Gaara>canaima: Este es el canal oficial y es en inglés, pásate por #debian-es
14:39<houms>KZKG well I can confirm something fishy with that torrent as I have downloaded 3 others and work all as I described
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14:40<KZKG^Gaara>houms: Ok thanks, must be something weird of TorrentFlux or some PHP function ;)
14:40<KZKG^Gaara>retrospectacus: I'm seeking the .tar.gz of torrentflux-ng thanks :D
14:41<retrospectacus>rutorrent got that ISO no problem
14:41<houms>not sure how crumy TF is, but it does everything i need it to. been running it for some years now. I am sure ng is better
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14:42<KZKG^Gaara>houms: What version of TF do u have?
14:43<houms>2.4
14:43<houms>at least according to the webpage at the bottom
14:43<houms>2.4-5 according to apt
14:44<KZKG^Gaara>The same that I
14:46<houms>yeah running on squeeze just like you
14:46<houms>i have never seen a torrent do that , by which i mean have no check box
14:48<KZKG^Gaara>Yes, I've been going crazy for a while, because it works fine with some torrents and not with others haha.
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14:51<kronicon>Hi
14:52<sney>hi
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14:52<kronicon>Where you came from?
14:52<retrospectacus>kronicon: this channel is for debian support. Do you have a debian question?
14:52<kronicon>Yes
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14:53<retrospectacus>!ask
14:53<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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14:53<kronicon>I have Ubuntu 11.10 How I can install debian package on my Ubuntu
14:54<retrospectacus>we cannot help you with that
14:54<retrospectacus>!ubuntuirc kronicon
14:54<dpkg>kronicon: This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server irc.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://irc.freenode.net/ubuntu
14:54<kronicon>ok thx
14:55<KZKG^Gaara>retrospectacus: rutorrent said : "No connection to rTorrent. Check if it is really running. Check $scgi_port and $scgi_host settings in config.php and scgi_port in rTorrent configuration file."
14:55<KZKG^Gaara>retrospectacus: In that file (config) the host is 127.0.0.1 and the port is 5000
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14:56<KZKG^Gaara>That's correct?
14:56<retrospectacus>you'd have to check what port rtorrent is using but 127.0.0.1 is probably correct
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14:58<KZKG^Gaara>I'm installing torrentflux-ng and rutorrent at the same time ...
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15:00<retrospectacus>I'm going for lunch, seeya
15:00<KZKG^Gaara>retrospectacus: Ok thanks for all :D
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16:41<giacomo>irc://irc.openjoke.org/killers
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16:42<retrospectacus>go away giacomo
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17:41<chamunks>Hey im having issues getting mysql to accept my .sql file it keeps telling me table not found.
17:41<retrospectacus>chamunks: go on...
17:42<chamunks>im not sure how to fix this this is the error im getting "ERROR 1146 (42S02) at line 1: Table 'pex.permissions_entity' doesn't exist
17:42<chamunks>"
17:42<chamunks>wow that didnt copy twice
17:42<chamunks>one more shot
17:42<chamunks>ERROR 1146 (42S02) at line 1: Table 'pex.permissions_entity' doesn't exist
17:42<chamunks>\
17:43<chamunks>so i dont really know much about sql i usually use phpmyadmin to spoonfeed me.
17:43<retrospectacus>well ... the problem is that that table doesn't exist... what are you asking?
17:43<chamunks>but its also spewing the same general issue.
17:43<chamunks>well im looking to try and fix this
17:43<retrospectacus>you need to create the table
17:43<chamunks>so it will accept the sql dump
17:43<chamunks>isnt there a way to make it do that automatically
17:43<retrospectacus>usually the table structure is contained in the dump file
17:43<chamunks>isnt that kind of the point of the sql dump?
17:43<retrospectacus>ummm no
17:44<chamunks>mm
17:44<retrospectacus>the dump *may* contain CREATE TABLE statements but it depends how it was dumped
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17:44<chamunks>damn thats kind of tedious.
17:44<perlwizard>I hear guys at irc.freenode.org #mysql are pretty good
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17:44<retrospectacus>yes you have to create tables before you can put data in them.
17:44<chamunks>but the thing can contain the table names.
17:45<chamunks>I can swing by there thanks perlwizard
17:45<chamunks>sometimes a nudge to the right community is all i ask :)
17:45<chamunks>also thanks for not being a bunch of ubuntu tards
17:46<retrospectacus>chamunks: #mysql will not be friendly towards your problem
17:46<retrospectacus>the error is clear
17:46<retrospectacus>and they don't like phpmyadmin
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17:46<chamunks>I dont mind using commands
17:46<retrospectacus>well you need to create the table
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17:47<chamunks>fair im gonna guess that its going to make me create all the tables :S
17:47<perlwizard>chamunks are you trying to import a dump ?
17:47<chamunks>bleh ok thanks :)
17:47<retrospectacus>you should re-dump with the *structure* included
17:47<chamunks>yus
17:47<perlwizard>dumps usually contain create table if not exists statements
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17:47<chamunks>its not a simple backup import
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17:47<perlwizard>what is it then
17:47<chamunks>its a migration from a yaml file to a sql db
17:47<yury_>hi
17:47<chamunks>so im at the mercy of the plugin creator.
17:48<perlwizard>what software is that ?
17:48<yury_>just got the pagolin on my desktop
17:48<yury_>it's MESSY
17:48<yury_>too many bugs still
17:48<retrospectacus>chamunks: that person should provide a CREATE TABLE definition
17:48<perlwizard>yury_ wrong channel ?
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17:48<retrospectacus>yury_: what are you talkin about
17:48<yury_>oh sorry
17:48<chamunks>mmm i agree its permissionsEx for minecraft
17:48<chamunks>i dunno meh i'll just see if i can make it happen manually i suppose
17:49<perlwizard>do you have some manual
17:49<perlwizard>that describes migration process ?
17:49<retrospectacus>chamunks: you can probably create it yourself depending how complex the data is
17:49<perlwizard>it probably isnt that complex
17:49<chamunks>its pretty complex somewhat.
17:50<chamunks>lol
17:50<retrospectacus>how many tables?
17:50<chamunks>its hard to tell
17:50<chamunks>let me paste the data into a pastebin.
17:50<perlwizard>for permissions probably not more than 3
17:50<chamunks>its a 1500 line perms file
17:50<retrospectacus>yeah do that
17:50<chamunks>a bit more thn average
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17:53<chamunks>http://pastebin.com/XquEcF62
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17:54<perlwizard>3 tables
17:54<perlwizard>as expected.
17:54<retrospectacus>looks like three tables... you sure this didn't come with CREATE TABLE parts though? It definitely should
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17:55<chamunks>yeh gimme a tick I'll paste the tutorial im grabbing my instructions from
17:55<retrospectacus>we could make them up but there's a chance something might break
17:55<chamunks>https://github.com/PEXPlugins/PermissionsEx/wiki/Migration#wiki-migrate-from-p2-3-sql-backend
17:58<retrospectacus>click the link to setup SQL and it says PEX will create the tables for you after you edit some file or something
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17:59<chamunks>mmmm
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18:00<TheMike>IIRC, there is kernel support for Logitech's unifying receiver - do you know how to activate that?
18:02<chamunks>retrospectacus, ok well I'll give that a go i suppose
18:02<chamunks>I'm gonna have to break everything a bit here its looking like thats going to be unavoidable before i can do this. :S
18:02<chamunks>bleh.
18:03<retrospectacus>vm testbenches are good
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18:17<cirrus_debian>logitechs reciever works for me
18:17<cirrus_debian>Linux version 2.6.32-5-amd64 (Debian 2.6.32-45) (dannf@debian.org) (gcc version 4.3.5 (Debian 4.3.5-4) ) #1 SMP Sun May 6 04:00:17 UTC 2012
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18:43<rlrobert>hi
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19:02<chamunks>retrospectacus, im getting a bit of a different issue now I managed to get the structure working.
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19:03<retrospectacus>ok?
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19:17<scientes> corrupted filesystem tarfile - corrupted package archive
19:17<scientes>dpkg-deb: error: subprocess paste was killed by signal (Broken pipe)
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19:28<elops>hello, how do I remove from my loop back interface the ipv6 thingy http://paste.debian.net/176516/
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19:28<elops>i need them removed.. because if i try this : telnet connect.facebook.net 80
19:29<elops>if i do telnet 96.17.143.139 (which is connect.facebook.net) it works.. my app from facebook does not work (getting [message:protected] => couldn't connect to host "
19:29<init[dot]d>for some reason I cant get flashplugin-nonfree to install correctly
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19:30<scientes>init[dot]d, if you don't succeed with the debian package, just download the tar.gz from adobe, and put the .so file in ~/.mozilla/plugins
19:31<init[dot]d>I got the tar and unpacked it
19:31<scientes>dpkg-deb: error: subprocess paste was killed by signal (Broken pipe)
19:31<scientes>what does this mean?
19:31<scientes> corrupted filesystem tarfile - corrupted package archive
19:31<init[dot]d>but it puts everything in /usr
19:31<scientes>i can manually ar x and tar -xvf
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19:31<scientes>init[dot]d, well there is a system dir for the .so too in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins i believe
19:32<scientes>you have to restart firefox just like in windows
19:32<init[dot]d>lemme check
19:32<init[dot]d>then just cp
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19:33<init[dot]d>actually plugins is there but empty
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19:35<craigevil>apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
19:35<scientes>^
19:35<retrospectacus>works every time
19:36<scientes>always worked for me
19:36<scientes>i only know the other mechanism cause once upon a time the 64-bit flash wasn't packaged
19:36<retrospectacus>the bad old days
19:37<scientes>and ubuntu at least had a buggy 32-on-64bit wrapper that always crashed firefox
19:37<scientes>(as plugins wern't in their own process then either)
19:37<init[dot]d>http://pastebin.com/PZcsPZMH
19:37<retrospectacus>!non-free
19:37<dpkg>[non-free] a component which contains software that does not comply with the <DFSG>. To add non-free packages to your packages index, ask me about <non-free sources>. To see which non-free packages are installed ask me about <non-free list>. For the non-free tracking system, see http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/
19:38<retrospectacus>no, ignore that.. it's contrib
19:38<craigevil>make sure you have contrib non-free
19:38<craigevil>or you can use flashplayer-mozilla from the dmm repo
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19:39<craigevil>if you are running amd64 make sure you are running the same version of firefox
19:39<init[dot]d>http://pastebin.com/18NhZ0Vc
19:40<pparadis>wtf
19:40<craigevil>looks fine
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19:41<pparadis>init[dot]d: did you run apt-get update?
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19:41<init[dot]d>yes
19:41<init[dot]d>no errors
19:41<retrospectacus>looks fine?? what's that Natty crap doing there?
19:41<pparadis>also, why are there ubuntu sources lines for ubuntu ppa mirrors?
19:41<pparadis>retrospectacus: that
19:41<craigevil>it only has i2p
19:41<retrospectacus>not fine at all
19:42<craigevil>doesnt pull in any other buntu packages
19:42<retrospectacus>it doesn't have any debian repo
19:42<pparadis>and that ^
19:42<pparadis>retrospectacus: i was three keystrokes behind you :)
19:42<craigevil>it can also simply be ran by downloading and running it no package needed
19:42<scientes>!ubuntirc
19:42<pparadis>#deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free
19:42<pparadis>#deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free
19:42<scientes>!ubuntuirc
19:42<dpkg>This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server irc.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://irc.freenode.net/ubuntu
19:43<craigevil>scientes, he's not running buntu
19:43<scientes>craigevil, oh he just totally borked his sources.list woah....
19:43<pparadis>craigevil: squeeze main contrib non-free <-- it's commented out
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19:43<scientes>use deb http://http.debian.org/debian
19:43<init[dot]d>pparadis, when adding the ftp repos I get errors about passive ftp
19:43<init[dot]d>some bug
19:43<scientes>wait
19:44<craigevil>oh crap didnt see that
19:44<pparadis>craigevil: he only has squeeze/updates in the first two lines
19:44<pparadis>that sources.list is totally sideways
19:44<init[dot]d>ftps give back an error
19:44<scientes>deb http://http.debian.net/debian
19:44*retrospectacus wanders off, this is under control
19:44<pparadis>init[dot]d: ???
19:44<init[dot]d>thats why the ftp are commented out
19:44<pparadis>sigh
19:44<pparadis>hang on
19:45<init[dot]d>if the ftp ones are allowed to stay in there there is a bug that causes apt to have issues
19:45*scientes palm-->face
19:45<craigevil>you still need the lines change ftp to http or use the repo scientes suggested
19:45<pparadis>deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free
19:45<pparadis>deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free
19:46<pparadis>init[dot]d: ^
19:46<init[dot]d>k
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19:47<init[dot]d>ohh the natty thing was just for i2p
19:47<pparadis>it's still a bad idea to install things on debian that aren't specifically denoted for debian.
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19:47<pparadis>you'd be better off compiling those thigns from sourc.e
19:47<init[dot]d>true
19:48<init[dot]d>but i2p holds both the .deb packages in an ubuntu labeled repo
19:48<init[dot]d>its not FOR ubuntu
19:48<pparadis>init[dot]d: http://debian-handbook.info/
19:48<pparadis>read it.
19:48<init[dot]d>k
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20:02<init[dot]d>0.o How do I get a debian.org email address?
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20:06<gotmynick>init[dot]d, you get that when you become a DD (Debian Developer)
20:07<init[dot]d>yeah Im starting the process now :)
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20:08<craigevil>probably a good idea to learn what your sources.list should look like first
20:09<init[dot]d>sorry my sources do not emulate yours
20:09<letterstothedevil>hi guys, is xchat really free for everyone but windows users?
20:09<init[dot]d>from lenny to squeeze was an amazing issue
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20:09<init[dot]d>letterstothedevil, yupp
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20:09<nevyn>letterstothedevil: there are other clients for windows that are free beer or free software
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20:10<daemonkeeper>init[dot]d: Wrong.
20:10<daemonkeeper>letterstothedevil: xchat is free on Windows as well.
20:10<init[dot]d>daemonkeeper, k
20:10<init[dot]d>daemonkeeper, wrong
20:10<daemonkeeper>letterstothedevil: The maintainer just chose to *distribute* Windows *binaries* non-free.
20:10<letterstothedevil>thats really neat, just wanted to stop in and ask before I continue studying :D just started ubuntu 2 weeks ago and im converted
20:11<daemonkeeper>init[dot]d: You are wrong.
20:11<init[dot]d>nou
20:11<init[dot]d>lol
20:11<nevyn>semantics of free.
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20:11<daemonkeeper>init[dot]d: http://www.silverex.org/download/
20:11<letterstothedevil>yeah thats what i ment daemon
20:11<themill>init[dot]d: please do try to be more signal and less noise in #debian. We've had this discussion already.
20:11<init[dot]d>yessir
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22:14<dfc>i have a lot of mktempdirs created during bootup that are not cleaned up. is there an easy way to figure out what program is creating them?
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22:47<chitchat>Hi there. Hoping this might be an easy question: After I upgraded from Lenny to Squeeze, my eth0 became eth2. How to fix?
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22:48<cockroach>chitchat: edit /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
22:49<brownBagSpecial>Hi, Im running a couple debian boxes in virtual box, I have one fresh install, one I am securing manually, then one I am securing with scripts from doing it manually, only problem is on the one to do the scripts (its a clone from right after finsihing the install) the network interface isnt working
22:49<sney>!doesnt work
22:49<dpkg>"Doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions>, <sicco> and <errors>.
22:51<brownBagSpecial>let me upload a screenshot
22:51<chitchat>cockroach: Thank you. Done. I tried "/etc/init.d/udev reload" but it didn't refresh it. Is there a way to update it without reloading? modprobe?
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22:51<cockroach>chitchat: euhm, i actually don't know, when i do that kind of stuff i just reboot :)
22:52<chitchat>cockroach: :-) k, thanks
22:52<cockroach>you're welcome
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22:53<brownBagSpecial>http://imgur.com/BEfid
22:54<brownBagSpecial>All I did was log on, check if the interface was up (the first thing i do in the script is bring the interfaces down) and it was down, ifup gives this error and I dont have any idea where to go from here
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22:55<cockroach>brownBagSpecial: you don't seem to have an eth0. do you have any other network interfaces?
22:55<brownBagSpecial>others are ignored
22:55<brownBagSpecial>for being unknown
22:55<sney>I find that my own virtualbox VMs sometimes change the ethernet interface name on me for no apparent reason
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22:56<brownBagSpecial>i did 0-4, is there a way I can check to see which ones I have?
22:56<sney>ifconfig -a
22:56<brownBagSpecial>ifconfig only shows the loopback
22:56<sney>you have to do -a or it won't show interfaces that are down
22:57<brownBagSpecial>hrm, -a shows eth2 but ifup eth2 says its unknown
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22:57<sney>ifup/ifdown only refer to interfaces specified in /etc/network/interfaces
22:57<brownBagSpecial>why would it change from a fresh clone?
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22:58<sney>as far as I can tell it's just a virtualbox quirk
22:58<brownBagSpecial>should I just delete this clone then reclone and hope for the best?
22:58<brownBagSpecial>fresh clone from a fresh install*
22:59<sney>do whatever you want but this is just virtualbox, it doesn't have any bearing on what would happen on bare metal
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22:59<sney>I would just update /etc/network/interfaces then continue whatever the real project is
23:00<brownBagSpecial>Well I am building a script that I can deploy for my home network, but I want to get some experience with VM's too
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23:01<chitchat>cockroach: In case you're interested in how to rename it without a reboot, what I did was rmmod'd the module listed in the udev rules (atl1e in my case), restarted udev, and the modprobed it back into existence. Viola!
23:01<cockroach>chitchat: ah, nice!
23:01<brando753>the debian installer has this really nice curses partition editor which lets you manage LVM, and ecncrypted drives. Is it possible to use this partitioner or one simmiliar to it outside of the install environment?
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23:02<sney>!partman
23:02<dpkg>from memory, partman is the partitioning tool of the <debian-installer> using libparted. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Partman
23:02<chitchat>cockroach: I'm actually surprised udev doesn't do that automatically. Seems very unlinuxy to me.
23:02<kop>brando753: "Nice" is relative. I always feel like I have to poke it with a stick. But it does do the job.
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23:03<brando753>kop: I really like it and am looking for a GUI/curses environment that can work with LVM and Luks but I dont know hot to startup partman or a similliar environment :/
23:03<brando753>*how
23:04<kop>brando753: You install the package. You run the program.
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23:04<brownBagSpecial>ahh, after looking at /etc/udev/rules.d/10-persistent-net.rules it appears after I cloned the VM and readdressed the MAC it picked up the new MAC and made a eth1 and eth2
23:04<brando753>and it works fine outside of the installer? alright I will give it a shot
23:05<cockroach>chitchat: indeed, it's one of those "argh" things :)
23:05<chitchat>:-)
23:05<kop>brando753: You don't want to destory your existing partitions or erase your filesystems. But otherwise it works fine when it comes to making new ones, destroying unused ones, etc.
23:06<brando753>yea im just making new ones
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23:13<brando753>alright I cant find partman in the repos, using apt-get install partman* even though I see it here "http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=partman"
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23:20<kop>!tell brando753 about apt-file
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23:28<brando753>so I have to essentially install debian-installer to use partman?
23:29<brando753>is that safe for a normal debian system?
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23:59<thomasbwang>what's the problem of my debian wheezy often freezes?
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23:59<goutam>hi
23:59<thomasbwang>only mouse can be moved on the screen
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