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#debian IRC Logs for 2012-07-14

---Logopened Sat Jul 14 00:00:20 2012
00:00<bst_>alex_: see http://wiki.debian.org/rtl819x
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00:41<Leha>Ребята, русские есть?)
00:42<Leha>Is anybody here?
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01:01<LordBurzum95>i installed debian squeeze with xfce4 but i not very happy with it and i want gnome 3 DE.
01:01<LordBurzum95>tried apt-get install gnome3-session, but that hasn't worked. any tips?
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01:04<simonlnu>!install gnome
01:04<dpkg>To install GNOME: install the 'gnome' package to install everything, 'gnome-desktop-environment' for GNOME as defined by upstream, 'gnome-core' for a bit less and 'gnome-session' for the basic components actually needed to run a GNOME session. You will need Xorg installed as well, ask me about <install x>. http://wiki.debian.org/Gnome
01:04<simonlnu>eh. that doesn't quite sound right anymore. but close.
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01:04<sney>LordBurzum95, gnome 3 is not available in squeeze. your options are to wait for debian 7.0 to release, or update to testing now. that is if you need gnome 3. otherwise, gnome 2 is available to you now
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01:24<EstebanMonge>why wiki.debian.org is too slow?
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01:27<sney>narrow pipe from nicaragua, probably. also, the wiki.debian.org search is pretty bad.
01:28<EstebanMonge>=(
01:29<sney>it helps if you use google to search. like: google.com search "wifi site:wiki.debian.org"
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01:29<EstebanMonge>I am editing one wiki page
01:30<EstebanMonge>or that would
01:31<sney>entonces, espera
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02:41<Flynnl_>Hey.
02:43<Flynnl_>I'm running debian 6.5 on a dell inspiron 1721 and since installing xfce4 (While using it) my touchpad won't click stuff when just tapping it. I have to use the buttton.
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02:46<Flynnl_>I know it's a stupid problem but, annoying after a while. seems to happen a lot with linux mint. But, I'm not sure I can trust the wiki. Not trying to screw up things here with such a simple thing.
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03:03<James>Olá!
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03:04<Guest3119>Hellow
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03:05<Loren>Oláaaaa
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03:24<ompaul>!es
03:24<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
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03:38<test>hello
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03:50<devil>test: just ask xyour question
03:50<pawel>hi, is it true kfreebsd kernel is compiled with -01 flag?
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04:27<xubuntu>hello
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04:28<xubuntu>?
04:28<xubuntu>where is it?
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05:16<admin>hola
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05:16<Antonio>Hola, hay alguien?
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08:52<saulotoledo>Hello all! I need redirect the user while in 400 error (HTTP instead of HTTPS). I've created an ErrorDocument, but I'm unable to get the original Request URI before the error. Can I do this with Apache?
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08:56<Apollo>saulotoledo: what are you trying to do exactly?
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08:57<saulotoledo>All here works with HTTPS now, but the browsers always complete with HTTP and the error is annying some times. When a browser runs http:// I want redirect to https://
08:57<saulotoledo>Apollo
08:57<Apollo>saulotoledo: you can force a redirect with apache yes
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09:01<Apollo>saulotoledo: you will need mod_rewrite and mod_headers
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09:04<saulotoledo>Apollo: But I can do thos ate same host?
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09:05<Apollo>yes you can
09:07<Apollo>Apache supports SNI, and has it enabled by default
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09:14<saulotoledo>Apollo: Can you help me to do this redirect?
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09:23<Apollo>saulotoledo: it's really not difficult, check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_Strict_Transport_Security#Implementation for a way to do it in apache
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09:45<saulotoledo>Apollo: Ty for help :)
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10:07<ayaka>I am using libpam-ldapd instead libpam-ldap ,but where shall I set pam_groupdn
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10:13<sko>irc.freenode.org
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10:13<sko>oh
10:13<sko>sorry
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10:18<Calinou>it's irc.freenode.net, the late sko :P
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10:48<grepper>I'm wondering why I am getting "EXT4-fs (sda1): re-mounted. Opts: (null)" (as well as "EXT4-fs (sda1): re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro"). Does this have something to do with the fsck check? And why "(null)" ? I'm also wondering if my fstab line is correct, I recently changed to ext4.
10:49<grepper>er, these messages show in dmeg for the above of course
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10:49<grepper>dmesg*
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11:21<xorxos>hi to all, my broadcom wifi don't work, can someone help me?
11:21<sney>what is the output of: lspci -nn |grep -i net
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11:22<xorxos>:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller [14e4:4727] (rev 01)
11:22<xorxos>03:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller [10ec:8168] (rev 06)
11:22<sney>,pciid 14e4:4727
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11:22<judd>[14e4:4727] is 'BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller' from 'Broadcom Corporation' with kernel module 'brcm80211' in squeeze. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=14e4:4727 http://wiki.debian.org/wl http://wiki.debian.org/brcm80211 and the out-of-tree 'wl' module.
11:23<sney>!brcm80211
11:23<dpkg>brcmsmac (brcm80211 prior to Linux 2.6.39) is an open source <mac80211> driver, supporting 802.11n PCIe devices based on Broadcom <BCM4313>, <BCM43224> and <BCM43225> chips. Included in Debian 2.6.32 kernel images for x86 systems. Firmware is required (bcm43xx-0.fw, bcm43xx_hdr-0.fw), ask me about <non-free sources> and install the firmware-brcm80211 package to provide. http://wiki.debian.org/brcm80211
11:23<sney>xorxos: ^ gotta install that firmware package.
11:23<xorxos>where can i find it?
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11:34<xorxos>hi again, it didn't work...
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11:34<sney>xorxos: did you install firmware-brcm80211 from non-free?
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11:35<xorxos>It was working, but yesterday i upgrade the kernel, today it stop working
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11:35<xorxos>yes... i did it
11:35<sney>what debian version is this?
11:35<xorxos>testing, wheez
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11:39<sney>xorxos: that's the 3.2.0-3 kernel update?
11:40<xorxos>yes... amd64
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11:43<sney>xorxos: it broke my wifi too. go back to 3.2.0-2, and see if the bug has been reported on http://bugs.debian.org/src:linux (scroll down)
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11:44<xorxos>ok...
11:44<xorxos>thanks
11:45<dvs>http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=681232
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11:46<sney>dvs: aye, that's the adapter I have. xorxos had different hardware
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11:46<dvs>sney: If there's two different adapters, then I think it's not the driver that's at fault, right?
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11:47<sney>dvs: hmm, yeah
11:48<sney>though it could just be a coincidence, so I think they should be filed individually and algernon can make that call
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12:36<bish>Hello World!
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12:45<lduros>if i reboot with a debian netinst installer in my dvd drive, and instead of installing debian on my hard drive, i install it on a usb flash drive
12:45<lduros>that flash drive will be a "Live Debian USB drive" No?
12:45<lduros>that can boot?
12:45<lduros>I did it once with Ubuntu and I think it worked
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12:45<lduros>the issue i have is that the "dd" method with the debian live image doesn't seem to boot
12:46<abrotman>it would be a regular veresion of debian on a usb drive
12:46<lduros>on my computer at work
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12:46<lduros>abrotman: but isn't that a fine thing?
12:46<lduros>abrotman: it would still boot debian if you set in the bios to boot with USB first, no?
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12:46<lduros>i just bought a 32G flash drive for this purpose
12:47<lduros>abrotman: haha, I'm in Clifton Heights now... that's close to media/swarthmore
12:47<lduros>that's where I live, so I'm not sure you can see me through your window at the moment! :-)
12:47<abrotman>heh
12:47<abrotman>ah no
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12:47<abrotman>if you want a regular linux distro on your USB drive, that's how you do it .. but Debian has a liveCD you can use on a USB drive
12:48<lduros>but what's the advantage of the "liveCD" ?
12:48<lduros>:-)
12:48<lduros>I think regular distro is fine, I'll try that, and see
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12:48<lduros>the issue is that the liveCD won't boot
12:49<abrotman>!livecd
12:49<dpkg>A "live CD" (or live system) is an operating system that can boot and run directly from CD. Linux-based examples are Knoppix and Ubuntu. Useful as a rescue CD or for showing off to your geek friends. Debian has its own Live CD (http://live.debian.net/), ask me about <debian live>. http://www.livecdlist.com/
12:49<lduros>danke
12:49<abrotman>but yeah, you can use it as a regular distro .. others have done that
12:49<lduros>excellent
12:49<lduros>it might just a bit slow to read/write
12:49<lduros>I supposed
12:49<lduros>:-)
12:50<lduros>with no swap it should be ok
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12:54<mooglenorph>Hi, how do I figure out where header files are kept?
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12:55<mooglenorph>Such as, #include <X11/X.h>
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12:57<Apollo>mooglenorph: depends on your development environment
12:57<abrotman>!tell mooglenorph about apt-file
12:57<Apollo>most are kept in places like /usr/lib, /lib, /usr/local/lib
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12:58<mooglenorph>Apollo: ah, that's perfect, thanks!
12:58<abrotman>or he could use apt-file
12:58<mooglenorph>apt-file tells me /usr/include/lsb3/gtk-2.0/gdk/gdkkeysyms.h. slick.
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13:03<spike>Hello
13:04<Calinou>hi
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13:09<grummund>Is there a canned iptables helper package that allows e.g. "deny <ip>" and "undeny <ip>" at the command line?
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13:10<abrotman>iptables isn't really that hard
13:11<grummund>sure, but it would be nice to just write "deny 12.34.56.78"
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13:12<ansgar>grummund: You can add functions to your .bashrc or drop trivial scripts in /usr/local/bin.
13:12<ansgar>(Also "deny" is a bad command name for this.)
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13:13<grummund>yep i agree :) was just wondering if there was a ready canned package, no point in re-inventing the wheel.
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13:18<Osiris_X>is the a particular channel for debian wine?
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13:29<Calinou>Osiris_X, no?
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13:31<Osiris_X>Calinou: ok - just slightly confused with the whole have to install i386 packages on amd64 to run normal wine (32-bit)
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13:31<engla>well wine executes 32-bit code so
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14:13<numbatheorizt>Hi, I would like to install debian, but what's the difference between the images under bt-cd/bt-dvd and the ones at iso-cd/iso-dvd directiores?
14:14<numbatheorizt>NEVERMIND
14:14<sney_>the bt-*directories are just torrent - ah I guess you noticed
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14:14<numbatheorizt>yeh I just went retarded real quick, thanks though :).
14:14<sney_>also, for most users, the netinstall is the best/fastest way to install. the only exception would be if you don't have a working network connection
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14:46<Osiris_X>engla: so when I used to compile the packages myself for amd64 architecture - they used to run 32-bit windows software without the need to install alot i386 libraries
14:47<engla>Osiris_X: ia32-libs is the old solution and multiarch will be the new solution. either way you have i386 libraries installed
14:47<Osiris_X>engla: ahhh I see now. thanks.
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14:51<w4rk3n>hi
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14:53<engla>it's unclear what happens to ia32-libs in wheezy
14:53<w4rk3n>:S
14:53<w4rk3n>I don't know
14:53<sney_>it'll probably be weird and messy for a bit and then it will go away
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15:00<engla>first we need a version in wheezy with updated dependencies
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15:00<engla>the amd64 drm/mesa libs are updated and much better than the ia32-libs embedded versions
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15:00<engla>but this only matters for wine 3d apps basically
15:02<salmin>is there a special OT channel here?
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15:03<perlwizard>is there some alternative to AutoIt that's usable on debian ?
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15:04<perlwizard>salmin #debian-offtopic
15:04<salmin>perlwizard: thanks
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15:22<sahibjot_>hello?
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15:29<Osiris_X>anyone know how do I clean a source directory of the all the build/autoreconf crap and get back to the originals source + debian/
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15:37<lendariam>OI
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15:37<sney_>hi.
15:37<sney_>Osiris_X: usually 'make clean' or something of that nature
15:37<lendariam>COUNTRY?
15:37<devil>lendariam: debian
15:37<sney_>lendariam: this is a support channel for debian users. do you have a question
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15:38<sney_>the answer is almost always no, but we ask anyway
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15:40<Osiris_X>sney_: alas none of make clean. debian/rules clean or dh_autoreconf_clean seems to remove the "build-tools" dir and assorted autogen and *.am files
15:40<sney_>odd
15:41<sney_>maybe there's a different target like 'make mrproper' - see 'make help'
15:41<engla>Osiris_X: *.am files are source files though.. why would you want to remove those?
15:41<Osiris_X>engla: sorry yes the *.am files were in the source, apologies
15:42<motoko`>o
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15:47<Osiris_X>engla / sney_ as it transpired the removal of the "build-tools" directory as enough to get the build process working with autoreconf - not sure why this does not get deleted with any of the normal clean methods
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16:10<guitar-man>hello
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16:11<dvs>bonjour!
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16:16<woden>what is the correct command to "group install" X Windows? Thank you.
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16:23<mase>woden what do you mean with "group install"?
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16:25<sney_>he already left
16:25<sney_>group install is something the redhat package manager can do. debian's equivalent is metapackages
16:25<sney_>and/or tasks
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16:27<mase>ok...
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16:31<craigevil>fedora would do yum groupinstall "X Window System" "KDE (K Desktop Environment)" , debian aptitude install xorg kde-full , much simpler
16:32<sney_>much less typing, anyway
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16:39<mase>btw i dont like that kde packages depend on xserver, does not aply to my thin client system...
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16:40<sney_>I don't think they do, it's just a recommends
16:40<sney_>in fact it's a suggests
16:41<sney_>see: apt-cache depends kde-full
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16:41<mase>hmmm, xserver gets installed, maybe i miss some apt parameters to avoid that
16:42<numbatheorizt>what is the difference between the CD-N's in this directory? http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.5/amd64/bt-cd/
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16:42<numbatheorizt>it's up to 30 or something.
16:42<numbatheorizt>53
16:43<sney_>the full CD set is all of the software available in debian main
16:43<sney_>if you are just installing, you want one of the ones that says CD1 or netinstall
16:43<sney_>er, CD-1 or netinst (or businesscard)
16:44<mase>cd1 is ok and then switch to network repositories...
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16:46<numbatheorizt>Ok. Gonna download the xfce+lxde release, love xfce.
16:50<numbatheorizt>I would really love to try kFreeBSD though, how developed is it?
16:50<numbatheorizt>I've been aware of the project for quite some time, but not being an advanced user, I never wanted to mess with it.
16:50<sney_>it's solid enough for a stable release. it doesn't have as much software available as the linux kernel releases though
16:50<numbatheorizt>I do prefer FreeBSD because I've used it before.
16:50<sney_>or as much documentation
16:51<numbatheorizt>yeh I figured, gonna give it a try on a VM for sure though.
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16:51<sney_>well, it's a debian system with GNU userland and a FreeBSD kernel, so it isn't really like vanilla FreeBSD either
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16:51<kop>numbatheorizt: The only difference I can think of that would be visible is pf instead of iptables.
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16:57<numbatheorizt>kop, what would you say about drivers? Because one of the reasons I'm installing debian on this laptop is because I know that the driver support for it would be a lot better in a Linux system rather than in a BSD system.
16:59<numbatheorizt>All the drivers that work for debian will also work for kFreeBSD? That seems to be too much of a stretch tbh.
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17:04*Maulkin points out that kFreeBSD was released as a technical preview only.
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17:06<numbatheorizt>I see. It could easily take over the world if done properly though. Kids from all countries would be lining up to get their kFreeBSD-ready laptops, all over the world governments would switch to a kFreeBSD paradigm in no time.
17:06<numbatheorizt>I mean that project has a lot of potential.
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17:12<sney_>numbatheorizt: your guess is right on the drivers - it would be too much of a stretch. the drivers for linux or freebsd are kernel modules
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17:37<j_v>apt-get update returns error hashsum mismatch. I thought this was a problem with trying to update during mirror's site update. Can anyone offer any help? I've searched and read about this a bunch and seem no nearer to understanding the problem.
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17:40<sney_>have you tried a different mirror?
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17:41<lduros>hello -- so I have installed debian on a flash drive of 32G. One partition for / and one partition for /home -- after that I had to install grub but that was installed on my hard drive, not the stick. Debian on the flash drive would work well when booted. However, I had to reset my grub to work back with the harddrive only. But now I can't boot into the flash drive. And ultimately my goal is to use that installation in t
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17:42<j_v>in the past, yes, though not today... i will try a different mirror now. hasn't helped in the past though.
17:42<sney_>lduros: for portable linux installations, the syslinux or extlinux bootloader is often more appropriate
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17:43<lduros>sney_: hmm, so how would I install it on the thumbdrive? without having to reinstall everything?
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17:44<lduros>sney_: ah maybe i'll ask that on the mailing list
17:44<lduros>:-)
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17:44<sney_>lduros: well, it's packaged for debian, so just install the extlinux package and then follow the instructions to install it as your usb drive's bootloader
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17:46<lduros>sney_ but wait, I should install from the debian in the stick no? Not the debian on my harddrive?
17:47<lduros>right?
17:48<sney_>bootloaders are pretty flexible, it shouldn't matter
17:49<sney_>and syslinux, which extlinux is derived from, is actually intended to be installed from an OS other than the one it's going to be booting
17:49<lduros>ok cool, so i might try with syslinux
17:49<lduros>first
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17:54<j_v>sney_: thanks. other mirrors have give same hashsum mismatch errors in the past. this time, though, success.
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17:56<sney_>lduros: syslinux only boots from fat32 or ntfs filesystems
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17:57<lduros>sney_: ah too bad, I installed as ext4
17:58<lduros>does extlinux work with ext4?
17:58<lduros>sounds like it
17:58<lduros>i'll check
17:59<sney_>lduros: I told the channel bot dpkg to send you a message about it
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17:59<lduros>oh yeh let's see
18:00<lduros>thansk
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18:16<Aleric>Is there an ia32 compatibility library for libasound_module_conf_pulse.so ?
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18:21<thor__>hi
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18:21<thor__>i have a little problem with xubuntu 12.04, I can not install the updates
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18:25<nodiscc>Hi everyone, any chance someone has file-roller installed? I'd like to confirm a bug
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18:26<nodiscc>It should support rzip compression (http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=455672) but I can't find rzip in the formats3 list
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18:26<nodiscc>*formats
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18:26<nodiscc>obviously you should have both file-roller and rzip installed
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19:06<Alchemek>hi. i just installed Debian 6.0.4 from a live DVD from a flash drive, and now i don't have an ethernet connection, having booted into the system
19:06<Alchemek>whereas with the flash drive live environment, i did have internet from this ethernet connection
19:06<Alchemek>how do i solve this problem?
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19:07<Alchemek>anyone here to help?
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19:16<ladoga>Alchemek: yes, but it might take some time before someone reads it so be patient
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19:19<wolvii>exit
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19:20<sney_>Alchemek: what network hardware do you have
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19:20<Alchemek>uhh
19:20<Alchemek>i'll find out
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19:21<Alchemek>should ethernet just work automatically?
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19:21<Alchemek>if my driver is supported?
19:21<Alchemek>but why does it work when the flash drive boots debian?
19:21<Alchemek>like
19:21<Alchemek>the live cd
19:22<Alchemek>why does that have internet?
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19:22<ladoga>hard to answer without further info
19:22<Alchemek>k
19:22<Alchemek>one sec
19:22<sney_>Alchemek: could be it requires firmware
19:23<sney_>lspci -nn from your debian system will show pci ids, which are very useful - they look like this [xxxx:xxxx]
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19:23<Alchemek>seems likely
19:24<sney_>gotta run, be back in about 30
19:24<Alchemek>as soon as i can, i'll give you guys the driver
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19:24<Alchemek>ok
19:24<Alchemek>this is what it is
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19:25<Alchemek>Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8056 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller
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19:28<Alchemek>yeah
19:28<Alchemek>i probably just need firmware
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19:28<Alchemek>i'll read the installation guide
19:30-!-mode/#debian [+l 494] by debhelper
19:31<Alchemek>it says debian installer will load the missing firmware if there is some
19:31<Alchemek>well
19:31<Alchemek>it didn't
19:31<Alchemek>i'm redoing the install right now
19:31<Alchemek>so i'll look around for that
19:31<ladoga>http://wiki.debian.org/Firmware/#Firmware_during_the_installation
19:32<Alchemek>thank you
19:32<ladoga>well that sounds like what you already read
19:33<Alchemek>somewhat
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19:34<Alchemek>i got a firmware archive
19:35<Alchemek>it doesn't look like my driver is in here
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19:38<Alchemek>ok
19:38<Alchemek>in the installer
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19:39<Alchemek>after everything finished
19:39<Alchemek>i pressed back
19:39<Alchemek>and clicked detect network hardware
19:39<Alchemek>and it looks like
19:39<Alchemek>it's actually installing something that wasn't there before
19:39<Alchemek>so maybe i fixed the problem
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19:41<Alchemek>pretty soon i may just go back to Linux Mint
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19:41<ladoga>use what works best for you:)
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19:44<Alchemek>lspci seems to recognize my ethernet controller
19:44<Alchemek>so what's the problem?
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19:46<ladoga>lspci shows the physical stuff thats there..howabout modprobe, does it show the driver?
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19:46<Alchemek>OH
19:46<Alchemek>i need to mention...
19:46<ladoga>lsmod
19:46<ladoga>sorry
19:46<Alchemek>when i click
19:46<ladoga>i'm too tired
19:46<Alchemek>the wired network thing
19:46<Alchemek>it says
19:46<Alchemek>device not managed
19:46<Alchemek>what does that entail?
19:47<Alchemek>how do i manage it?
19:47<Alchemek>lol
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19:50<ladoga>what if you run ifup eth0?
19:51<Alchemek>ok...
19:51<Alchemek>i ran into a bug
19:51<Alchemek>look at this:
19:51<Alchemek>http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=530024
19:51<Alchemek>this was supposedly fixed already
19:51<Alchemek>but apparently not for me
19:51<diederik>Alchemek: you don't need to press <Enter> after 3 words. You can type a whole sentence ;)
19:54<Alchemek>sorry lol
19:54<Alchemek>it's a habit
19:54<Alchemek>i'll try to stop doing that
19:55<diederik>that would be appreciated
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19:57<user01>Debian GNU/Linux comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by applicable law. . . does that mean in some places Debian has to warrant the software because if the law?
19:57<ladoga>NM is (or atleast was) horrible...i have long since switched to wicd
19:58<ladoga>so Alchemek, did changing that NM config solve the issue?
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20:03<Alchemek>FINALLY
20:03<Alchemek>i fixed the problem!
20:03<Alchemek>jesus
20:03<Alchemek>thanks for your help
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20:03<Hydroxide>user01: well, we can't give legal advice about what various parts of the world allow in that regard, but obviously if somewhere forbids the disclaimer fully or partially, we can't ignore the law
20:03<Hydroxide>user01: but, at the same time, we don't charge for debian, though others might
20:04<Hydroxide>user01: and many people get it from intermediaries other than us
20:05<user01>is gnome3 going to be the default on wheezy release?
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20:06<sney>gnome3 will be the default gtk desktop environment
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20:19<engla>user01: yes, gnome3 is the default
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20:22<perlwizard>http://paste.debian.net/179120/ is excerpt from my xmodmap -pk. How do I use xmodmap to switch keycode 82 functionality to that of keycode 106 ?
20:23<perlwizard>essentially I want Alt+Shift+KP_minus to send XF86Ungrab
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20:23<perlwizard>this is done atm by Alt+Shift+KP_div but I need another key
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22:28<Milky>hello
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22:29<Milky>hi mac-mini
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23:27<vhann_>What is the english equivalent to manpages-fr-extra? Or rather: where is idmapd.conf's manpage?
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23:29<homercycles>why does "apt-get upgrade" hold some packages back? I just did an upgrade, it installed a heap of stuff, but it is still keeping a heap back
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23:37<killmickey>I have a quick question, what version of debian should I run on an old "Pentium M (1.3GHz)", and have it run well? The main site says i386 all over the place but I don't exactly believe it, and running low on CD-Rs (No USB boot).
23:37<xi34>I'm trying to install debian onto an encrypted partition and use deboostrap. I'm running into some errors about "update-initramfs is disabled (live system is running on read-only media)." http://pastebin.com/vgQbAYrR any chance someone could take a look?
23:38<wolfpython>killmickey: debian's i386 version support i486 and above
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23:38<killmickey>That's what I've been reading, so how for back do I need to go/
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23:42<wolfpython>AFAIK,Pentium is i586, so your Pentium M is enough to run debian i386 version
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23:45<killmickey>Well the Ubuntu 12.04 image I had laying around said that the kernal wasn't compatible, and going off the assuption that Ubuntu is (was) a debian fork that I would run into the same problem. This is of course an assumption.
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23:47<youlysses>killmickey: I haven't seen the preceding convo, but if your asking if Ubuntu and Debian use the same kernel image, then no.
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23:50<woden>What is the command to install the X window system as a package group? Thank you.
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23:57<youlysses>woden: What do you mean by "package group"? The meta-package?
23:57<woden>youlysses, Yes I think so. The package group for the X window system.
23:58<bingo>any software developers here?
23:58<bingo>i am trying to find out about your job
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23:59<youlysses>woden: Would you call it a "list of packages that are needed to be installed for x to work?".
23:59<woden>youlysses, Yeppers.
23:59<youlysses>bingo: Yep there's tons here, but we may send you to #debian-offtopic, depending on your question(s). ;-)
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