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#debian IRC Logs for 2012-07-16

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01:20<gatojoviano>hi
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01:33<alrea7>hi
01:33<alrea7>is xubuntu dibian ?
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01:34<alrea7>hi
01:34<jm_>!xubuntu
01:34<dpkg>Xubuntu is a derivative of <Ubuntu> with the <Xfce> desktop environment. It is not supported in #debian, join #xubuntu on chat.freenode.net for support. http://www.xubuntu.org/ See also <based on debian>.
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01:36<alrea7>yes but may i ask which dibian i can use as i install some new distro but it dosnt work sometime icant configure my internet some time no way to click ivstall so im lost
01:37<alrea7>now i finish with xubuntu
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01:38<jm_>you'll need to provide more details if you want people to help you with debian
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01:40<alrea7>ok which best dibian distro now with normal motherboard and 2 gigaram and dualcore . 2.3
01:40<jm_>start with debian stable release, squeeze
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01:41<alrea7>squeeze is it new
01:41<jm_>it's the last released version
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01:42<alrea7>can i install it with usb
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01:42<jm_>I have no idea if *you* can do it, but if you are asking if debian support installation from USB storage devices, then yes it does
01:42<alrea7>and it recognize my network seting auto
01:43<alrea7>cool yes that what im asking
01:43<alrea7>thank u jm i got it
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01:46<jm_>alrea7: as for last question, it will offer DHCP setup by default IIRC
01:47<alrea7>i have wireless huawe modem
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01:48<alrea7>ok i will try it
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01:48<jm_>then pehraps try this http://wiki.debian.org/Modem/3G
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01:48<jm_>or not
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02:29<reklipz>Hi all. I just formatted my flash drive with ext4 via gparted. Now, when GNOME automounts it, it has root:root permission, and my user cannot access it. How can I fix this so I can access it? I'm running Debian Squeeze (amd64).
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02:30<reklipz>this is the mount line: /dev/sdc1 on /media/eeccc97b-d23e-4f7e-95b5-11a6decb6e46 type ext4 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks)
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03:39<prappl93>Hi guys. I'm having an issue with my HDMI port not working so far on here. It's integrated to my computer that has an ATI HD 3000 "card" in it. Is there anything I can do to get the HDMI to work?
03:43<jm_>hdmi for video?
03:44<prappl93>Yeah
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03:47<jm_>hmm not really familiar with ATI, and I see no setting to specify an output in xorg.conf -- does xrandr list any hdmi outputs?
03:48<prappl93>No.
03:48<prappl93>It shows the VGA I'm using to the TV instead and a DVI. But I want the HDMI for both audio and video out
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03:49<jm_>sorry, can't help more
03:49<prappl93>Thanks for attempting though :)
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04:23<ivanov9>hi all :)
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04:28<ectospasm>'sup?
04:28<ectospasm>er, four minutes late
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05:03<Pedro>hola
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05:05<ectospasm>bongiorno!
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05:06<dmxt>hi.. hi
05:06<dmxt>i have extremely simple question when it comes to installing debian (crunchbag)
05:07<dmxt>but is anybody alive here?
05:07<ectospasm>I am here
05:07<towo^work>crunchbag is not debian
05:07<dmxt>but close
05:07<ectospasm>...but I don't know anything about crunchbang (other than their forums have helped me with urxvt)
05:07<towo^work>doesn't matter
05:07<dmxt>well don't worry, its just question about partitioning. menu is all the same
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05:08<dmxt>so uh, i'm not exactly sure which partition i should install the system on
05:08<ectospasm>what partitions do you see?
05:08<dmxt>there is 3 partitions, first two is for windows 7 (one of them is system reserved)
05:08<dmxt>and last partition is just for backup
05:08<ectospasm>you should probably create a new partition from free space
05:08<ectospasm>...unless you intend to annihilate your Win7 partitions
05:09<dmxt>I guess... though I"m willing to install over windows 7.
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05:09<ectospasm>do you have any unpartitioned space on any of your hard drives?
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05:10<dmxt>I only have one hard drive
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05:10<dmxt>I mean, i'm fine messing around with first two partitions because they're not important to me, but I don'tw ant to touch the last partition becauseit's backup.
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05:11<ectospasm>dmxt: backup, as in backup for your OEM's version of Win7? If you blow away your Win7 partitions, the backup partition will be useless
05:12<dmxt>it's NTFS yes
05:12<dmxt>I see...
05:12<ectospasm>what do you plan on doing with this machine?
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05:13<dmxt>Wait, I mean, on last partition, it isn't backup for windows 7, it's just my files, pictures, documents and allof that simple stuff.
05:13<dmxt>on NTFS filesystem.
05:14<ectospasm>Oh.
05:14<dmxt>I just want to learn a little more about linux, try it out and such you know. VM doesn't feel right for me.
05:14<ectospasm>why crunchbang, and why not Debian proper?
05:14<dmxt>I like minimal ;~;
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05:15<ectospasm>dmxt: can't get much more minimal than Debian
05:15<dmxt>i can put debian if you want me to, I already have the image downloaded.
05:15<ectospasm>just install Debian with none of the package groups
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05:15<ectospasm>...that will be as minimal as it comes, but still allows you to add features as you go
05:15<dmxt>although I would still end up with same partitioning menu, notsuring what to do without screwing up.
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05:16<ectospasm>well, delete everything *BUT* your "backup" partition
05:16<dmxt>my idea was reformat second partition to ext3 and see if it will install
05:16<ectospasm>go with ext4
05:16<ectospasm>how much disk space is on the second partition?
05:16<dmxt>i'm hesitating on that, because partitions lookreally neat right now, it's sda1, sda2 and sda3 in order.
05:17<dmxt>It has 3partitions, 104.9mb/738.0gb/262.1gb
05:18<dmxt>I guess I'll just make sda4 for debian?
05:18<ectospasm>so you've got three primary partions. You'll need to delete partition sda2, add an extended partition (sda5), and add a root (sda6) and swap (sda7) partitions
05:18<ectospasm>how much free space do you have?
05:18<dmxt>it's nearly empty except 250gb of backup
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05:18<dmxt>out of 1tb harddrive
05:19<ectospasm>what's the 104.9MiB partition?
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05:19<dmxt>system reserved
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05:19<jm_>it's a boot partition that win7 creates
05:20<ectospasm>makes sense, analogous to some distro's separate /boot partition
05:20<ectospasm>dmxt: so the 738GiB is free space?
05:20<dmxt>it's the size of second partition, which is nearly empty
05:21<dmxt>i think the used space is about 40gb on that partition
05:21<ectospasm>watch out, resizing may destroy that used space
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05:21<ectospasm>dmxt: did you defrag before you started all this?
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05:22<dmxt>it's 40gb of stuff I don't need, remember that i don't need anything on first and second partition
05:22<dmxt>yes i did
05:22<ectospasm>wait, so you want to get rid of Win7?
05:23<dmxt>yeah, i always can reinstall it
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05:24<ectospasm>OK, then delete partition 2, add a new extended partition (sda5), and add a root ("/", sda6) and swap (sda7)
05:24<ectospasm>I forget what the prevailing conventional wisdom is for the size of swap. Make it at least as large as available RAM, if not twice as much
05:25<dmxt>and which partition am i supposed to install on?
05:25<dmxt>and there will be no sda1, or sda2?
05:26<ectospasm>sda1 is the Win7 boot partition, sda2 won't exist, sda3 is your backup partition, sda5 is the extended partition, sda6 will be root, and sda7 will be swap
05:26<ectospasm>how much about PC HDDs do you know? There can only be four primary partitions
05:26<dmxt>Yes i knew that..
05:27<ectospasm>...the fifth partition will be the extended partition, containing all the (127) logical partitions.
05:27<ectospasm>that's up to 127
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05:28<ectospasm>if you follow my instructions, set the mount point for sda6 to be /
05:28<dmxt>since sda2 won't exist, maybe you could just aswell keep sda2 and keep windows 7 on there?
05:28<dmxt>it won't hurt right?
05:29<dmxt>and sda5,sda6,sda7 will be for debian right?
05:29<ectospasm>well, all the space we have to use is in the current sda2, so you'll have to shrink it down, or get rid of it
05:29<dmxt>of course i would have to shrink sda2 size
05:29<dmxt>yeah
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05:30<ectospasm>I don't know if the crunchbang installer can resize an NTFS partition, I'd assume that's very dangerous
05:30<dmxt>i guess it would be easier to get it done on gparted
05:30<ectospasm>May want to resize it in Windows, and come back
05:30<dmxt>gparted live?
05:30<ectospasm>I dunno, I wouldn't trust a nonnative application to resize a partition.
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05:31<ectospasm>in theory it should work, but I've never had luck with doing it
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05:31<dmxt>i resizedthe backup partition (ntfs) with gparted and it worked fine
05:32<ectospasm>then go for it
05:32<dmxt>i have to go, other people need to use this machine. thanks a lot for help!
05:32<ectospasm>good luck!
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05:35<ectospasm>I know the armhf architecture is an unofficial port, but does anyone know why my armhf Packages.diff fails checksum? I'm using debmirror to pull down a mirror...
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06:19<yanns>Hi everybody!
06:19<ectospasm>ni hao!
06:19<yanns>I've a problem with my Debian Sid
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06:20<ectospasm>don't we all?
06:20<yanns>;-)
06:20<yanns>GNOME doesn't load any of my settings
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06:20<yanns>in the logs I've seen that it was using the memory gsettings backend
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06:21<yanns>when I try to change a setting it doesn't have any effect
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06:22<yanns>and in Epiphany when I try to load an https site it tells me TLS/SSL support not available; install glib-networking.
06:22<yanns>any idea?
06:22<ectospasm>nope
06:23<ectospasm>I use GNOME3, but only the fallback option, and it loads my settings OK
06:23<ectospasm>...I eschew Epiphany
06:23<yanns>OK
06:24<yanns>how can I find the list of packages that were updated during the last two days?
06:25<jm_>you shouldn't be using sid if you can't figure out /var/log/dpkg.log from its man page
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06:29<ectospasm>"its" being dpkg's man page?
06:30<jm_>yes
06:34<ectospasm>thanks for clearing that up, it wasn't entirely clear what the antecedent of "its" was
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06:42<yanns>jm_ Thanks for your caustic answer but I meant an exploitable log and /var/log/aptitude is a much better one for that purpose
06:43<jm_>yanns: only for people using aptitude
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06:46<yanns>jm_ Right. Speaking about aptitude, is it or not the recommended tool to manage packages in Debian?
06:46<Calinou>apt-get > aptitude (opinion :P)
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06:47<jm_>yanns: for squeeze apt-get is recommended for upgrades, but I use aptitude
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06:48<yanns>Calinou, why do you say that?
06:48<jm_>yanns: example of someone thinking the same way http://richardhartmann.de/blog/posts/2012/07/12-do_what_i_mean/
06:49<yanns>jm_ I've sometimes read that aptitude was now the official recommend tool. Is it false?
06:49<jm_>yanns: that was before squeeze IIRC
06:51<yanns>jm_ thanks. So back to apt-get, good to know
06:52<Calinou>yanns, because it's simply faster
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06:54<yanns>Calinou, I really like the ncurse interface of aptitude
06:54<Calinou>apt-get does what you want; "install something", "remove something," "update & upgrade"
06:55<yanns>but if apt-get is to be back the recommended way maybe I'll switch
06:55<yanns>in fact I just use the ncurse interface
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06:55<yanns>to see what are the packages I manually installed why my automatic packages are install and so
06:55<yanns>and aptitude is good for it
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06:56<yanns>but the example jm_ gave gives me serious doubt!
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06:57<yanns>and /var/log/aptitude is really clear ;-)
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06:57<yanns>have to restart my session
06:57<yanns>bye!
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07:24<sahbi>salut
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07:35<miroslav>Hi.
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09:11<grummund>Is there a web front end for replying to bugs on bugs.debian.org or is it email only?
09:11<@Ganneff>mail
09:12<grummund>ok thank you
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09:19<engla>grummund: the reportbug program in debian can help you too
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09:20<Ka_koo>Salut
09:21<Ka_koo>Je cherche un peu d'aide pour construire des paquets deb
09:21<Maulkin>!fr
09:21<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr.
09:21<Ka_koo>ok, thanks
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09:22<abrotman>!tell Ka_koo about mng
09:22<abrotman>ugh
09:22<abrotman>!tell Ka_koo about nmg
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09:28<lduros>how do I get to the shell when in the GDM splash screen? There's an issue with my graphic card (not well detected) and I just see some weird pixels in the splash screen, so I think going back to the command line would help me figure it out
09:29<lduros>thanks
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09:31<amdgoon>lduros: cntl-alt-F1 will give you a terminal login when X is up
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09:35<lduros>amdgoon: cool!
09:35<lduros>:-)
09:35<lduros>thanks much!
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09:37<amdgoon>usually F1 to F6 are available if you need more, but this varies depending on how things are spec'd in /etc/inittab
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09:37<loldd>Hello could i get some help on this error :
09:37<loldd>Can't locate Heap/Fibonacci.pm in @INC (@INC contains:
09:37<loldd>> /usr/perl5/5.00503/sun4-solaris /usr/perl5/5.00503
09:37<loldd>:)
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09:37<loldd>sry
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09:39<amdgoon>just cycle around using cntl-alt and the various F# keys, F7 "usually" take you back to X
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09:40<loldd>http://pastie.org/4266075
09:40<loldd>if someone could help me out :)
09:40<grove>loldd: That's a very old version of perl, I think you'll have hard time finding any help except: Upgrade!
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09:42<loldd>grove i did apt-get update
09:42<loldd>does it update it normally ?
09:42<loldd>i am not the expert :)
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09:43<loldd>or how i can update the perl version ? :)
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09:48<gdb>loldd: You can't cleanly upgrade the OS version of perl without doing more work than is worthwhile. Upgrade your operating system or do without whatever feature. You can, at your option, build your own version of perl and install it in /usr/local, independent of the OS's perl.
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09:49<gdb>loldd: Meaning, the best "I'm not the expert" path for you is to upgrade to Squeeze or wait for Wheezy.
09:50<loldd>ok i installed some missing packaged my bad but now it get this : http://pastie.org/4266108
09:50<loldd>:P
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10:35<grummund>Hi, i'm looking for help with fail2ban, or pointer to rtfm, please...
10:35<grummund>I don't get what the "Action shortcuts" are supposed to do in /etc/fail2ban.jail.conf ??
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10:41<NoNamed>hi everyone
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10:47<lduros>hello, is there a way I could completely prevent x/gdm to start if I have access to the filesystem but I'm not currently running it?
10:47<lduros>I tried changing /etc/inittab/ or something
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10:48<lduros>to 3 instead of 2 for default init
10:48<lduros>but that didn't do the trick
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10:48<lduros>I want to just have access to a console
10:50<grummund>lduros: sysv-rc-conf would let you edit that
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10:50<lduros>but i'd need to run it from the system itself
10:50<lduros>no?
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10:52<grummund>lduros: see the man page, maybe -r option does what you want
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11:14<efaistos>hey do you know if there is a way to force the sync of ntp ?
11:15<phihag>efaistos: You mean update the time from NTP once? ntpdate -u pool.ntp.org should do the trick
11:15<abrotman>though you shouldn't be using ntpdate anymore
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11:16<efaistos>nope ive got a ntpd server that i want to update with some public ntpd
11:16<efaistos>but want to force the sync
11:16<efaistos>to be able to see something in the logs
11:16<abrotman>efaistos: restarting your ntpd doesn't work ?
11:16<efaistos>abrotman: nope
11:17<efaistos>nothing in it about the sync
11:17<abrotman>it should sync shortly after starting
11:18<phihag>efaistos: ntpd -q doesn't work?
11:18<efaistos>i would love to see that syslog.1:Jul 16 05:36:25 ms01p ntpd[29507]: synchronized to 10.175.20.11
11:18<efaistos>by example
11:18<efaistos>its for some PCI stuff they want to see that kind of line
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12:25<zepekeno>hello
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12:33<jspiros>I'm trying to recompile the kernel I'm using, but I'm a little lost on kernel flavors for amd64. Should I be doing binary-arch_amd64_none_amd64 or binary-arch_amd64_none_real
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12:36<juanma>hello, can someone tell me how to use chrome mouse gestures on debian, please?
12:38<IjonTichy>that's a browser plugin?
12:38<IjonTichy>are you using chromium or chrome?
12:38<juanma>I have tried in both browsers
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12:41<juanma>I think that the problem is that the context menu pops up when the right click button is down...
12:41<scientes>juanma, i don't think they support Linux for those yet
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12:41<scientes>if it requires multi-touch that is
12:41<scientes>Xorg has it, but i don't think chromium supports it yet
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12:45<juanma>can I modify the right mouse button events configuration?
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13:01<juanma>anyway, thanks
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13:10<arand_>evolution is eating >3G memory, is there any way to check what might be wrong whilst it's in this state?
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13:13<houms>lsof
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13:20<alexlikeRock>hi guys ! :)
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13:25<arand>houms: That only accounts for ~200M so it appears the bulk is not in any loaded file...
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13:31<teb>good morning everyone
13:31<teb>I can't run Eclipse as root but I can do as nornal user
13:31<teb>normal*
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13:31<IjonTichy>you shouldn't run eclipse as root
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13:32<sney>!tell teb -about root x
13:32<teb>the source of this is that I'm trying to add plugins (android) to Eclipse and cannot, so one of the troubleshooting reccomendations is running eclipse as root
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13:33<IjonTichy>is the java_home only set for the user?
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13:33<IjonTichy>did you install eclipse from repositorys?
13:34<teb>IjonTichy, Indeed, Eclipse is installed from repo (galileo on squeeze)
13:34<houms>arand what does ps -euf show?
13:35<teb>java_home isn't set for any of my users -_-
13:37<arand>houms: invalid command no "-"?, also what am I looking for?
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13:39<teb>nvm, gksudo did the trick
13:39<teb>tnx all for it
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13:40<SynrG>"one of the troubleshooting recommendations" <- who recommends that? bleah.
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13:43<SynrG>he's gone, but http://stackoverflow.com/a/8143245 seems like a sane suggestion
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13:49<zedboy>Ok I'm feeling dumb. Why is sata not seeing this drive ? :-|
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13:49<sney>power connected?
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13:50<zedboy>sney: I think it's something flaky about this hot-swap drive bay. Drive is spinning, cooling fan is on ... but power light is off :-) mighty suspicious
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13:50<sney>sounds plausible
13:50<zedboy>@#%@#% toy
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13:52<zedboy>does this sound weird? I got a promise board, plus sata from the via chipset, but it's only got the narrow (e-?)SATA connector. so i need something that will take an old-fashioned mollux power from the mobo and deliver it to the drive ...
13:52<zedboy>that's why I'm using this hotswap bay. except it isn't working. would love to just take it out of the picture ...
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13:54<sney>mollux, that's a new one
13:55<sney>there are sata-molex power dongles in both directions and they usually cost about $1 at your friendly local computer parts store
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13:57<zedboy>sney: yeah I need to get there anyhow
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14:00*zedboy is gonna punt and put together a few ide drives and get this working
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14:02<zedboy>Who knew? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molex - NASDAQ: MOLX
14:02*zedboy learned something new today
14:02<betinho>Hi, anyone knows a "very good" link (start point) talking about internationalization with GTK+? i'll start to change my app to become available in some languages.
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14:04<zedboy>betinho: why not start with the gnome website, or the gnome channel, or google?
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15:06<amoe>I have a computer that has an OK graphics card in it, and it's connected to a monitor but has no keyboard / mouse. I'd like to remotely control the X session on the box so I can play videos, games etc on it
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15:07<abrotman>amoe: synergy2
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15:07<amoe>abrotman: thanks, looks nice!
15:07<amoe>I thought about VNC but I figure that will introduce too much of a performance penalty
15:08<abrotman>and you'd be displaying it on your4 local box .. might as well just play the game on your local box
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15:20<gruetzkopf>someone know a tool to save a screenshot of a certain window every x seconds
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15:25<saulotoledo>People, I have a problem with an Apache's VirtualHost: [Mon Jul 16 19:19:40 2012] [error] child died with signal 11 This is all I have, how can I understood the problem?
15:27<devil>gruetzkopf: you could probably marry scrot to a cronjob
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15:27<ompaul>saulotoledo: SIGSEGV 11 Core Invalid memory reference
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15:29<devil>gruetzkopf: looks like scrot can do it by itself even: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Scrot
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16:07<wferi>Hi! Say two packages have file conflicts. I install the first, dpkg-divert --package the conflicting files, then try to install the second, but dpkg errors on the conflicting files. Why?
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16:27<saulotoledo>ooops! I mixed things here! The Apache with the error is at Squeeze, and I discovered the problem happens while running suhosin + websvn
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16:37<MrDelook>hi guys I have a small problem I can't install xorg it's the packages are unavailabe. what should I do?
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16:39<retrospectacus>!bat
16:39<dpkg>In order for us to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: The complete output of your apt-get/aptitude/dselect run (including the command you used); the output from apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2...; for the relevant packages and "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>.
16:39<retrospectacus>MrDelook: ^
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16:50<ompaul>retrospectacus: I think you are off the hook there :-)
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16:54<retrospectacus>I've no reason to believe I could possibly help... I just try to help people ask useful questions :)
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16:56<MrDelook>Ok, this Debian is on VirtualBox. Because I thought I will learn something new. so i installed very poor version of Debian. now i even don't know how to copy something from console :(
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16:58<kleptog>For a DSA maintained machine there is a metapackage which defines what gets installed. Does anyone here understand the process of how an updated metapackage gets pushed to the relevant machine? Is it by hand or automated?
16:58<ompaul>MrDelook: the bot told you what to do, you have not done it, if you want help, you need to work in a way that allows people to help you
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17:03<dondelelcaro>kleptog: DSA has a private repository, but the actual updates are by hand, iirc. However, they do have nagios jobs which tell them if the packages are out of date
17:03<saulotoledo>People, this is a Debian bug? When I have Apache + PHP inside a chroot and suhosin is enabled, I can't use "php_value memory_limit 512M" at apache config because Apache die with signal 11!
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17:04<kleptog>dondelelcaro: ok thanks. I think the current problem is that the version number hasn't changed so they're not seeing its out of date... Something to try anyway
17:05<saulotoledo>*512 is an example
17:05<scientes>saulotoledo, did you mount proc?
17:06<dondelelcaro>saulotoledo: it is a bug, but you'll need to provide more information
17:06<dondelelcaro>saulotoledo: like a backtrace from the segfault
17:06<scientes>saulotoledo, can you paste the output of "mount"
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17:07<saulotoledo>scientes: yes, its mounted: http://paste.debian.net/179407/
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17:08<scientes>how about uname -a
17:08<saulotoledo>dondelelcaro: even strace don't give me so much information... I have discovered by hand... how could I give a better information?
17:08<scientes>saulotoledo, run it in gdb
17:08<scientes>apache
17:08<saulotoledo>scientes: Linux stoledo.homeip.net 3.2.0-2-amd64 #1 SMP Mon Jun 11 17:24:18 UTC 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux (it's chrooted system, correct?)
17:08<saulotoledo>*at
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17:09<saulotoledo>scientes: can you help me?
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17:09<scientes>just FYI, signal 11 is SIGSEGV
17:09<scientes>its most likely a php bug
17:10<scientes>you can workaround it by using limits in systemd/ulimits, instead of a php option
17:10<dondelelcaro>saulotoledo: that's why I said you'll need a backtrace. Enable coredumps, then run gdb on the corefile after installing the debugging package for php
17:11<scientes>^and apache
17:13<saulotoledo>scientes: installed apache-dbg and php5-dbg, can you guide me with the bug report proccess?
17:14<dondelelcaro>saulotoledo: enable coredumps with ulimit -c unlimited; get apache to core; locate the corefile, and gdb /usr/sbin/apache2 /path/to/corefile
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17:14<dondelelcaro>saulotoledo: then in gdb, run bt full
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17:23<diederik>I just tried to change my time zone using tselect, but it looks like it's only for that user, while I want to change the timezone of the machine.
17:23<saulotoledo>scientes, dondelelcaro: I need get out here now to go home, I'm saving this thread to try the bug report tomorrow. Really thanks for the help.
17:23<dondelelcaro>saulotoledo: good luck
17:23<diederik>What's the proper way to change it for the machine? Manually edititing /etc/timezone?
17:23<saulotoledo>scientes, dondelelcaro: thanks, logging out
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17:24<dondelelcaro>diederik: dpkg-reconfigure tzdata;
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17:25<diederik>dondelelcaro: thanks, that did the trick :)
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17:25<dondelelcaro>diederik: np. man tzselect; would have given you the answer too
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17:27<diederik>dondelelcaro: you're totally right. Sorry, should have checked it myself. (lesson learned ;))
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17:28<dondelelcaro>no worries
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17:38<xylon>why when I try to remove gnome-gamesit sais I have to remove gnome?
17:39<xylon>s/gnome-gamesit/gnome-games it/
17:39<retrospectacus>!tell xylon about unmarkauto
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17:49<xylon>thank retrospectacus
17:49<xylon>s/thank/thanks/
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22:49<tguedes>Ola
22:49<abrotman>!br
22:49<dpkg>Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues.
22:49<tguedes>ok sorry
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