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00:50<jparkton>whats up with my desktop not having folders on it?
00:51<jparkton>I mean I download to Desktop and nada
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01:43<Gerowen>I have a question, I've created two virtual hosts in apache 2, one of them is working, one is not, they are being hosted on separate ports so they don't conflict, and both ports are opened on the firewall, they both have a config in sites-available and a symlink to that config in sites-enabled
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02:15<xdark>Hello
02:15<xdark>deb help mee
02:15<xdark>please
02:15<xdark>hello anybody here
02:17<pparadis>!ask
02:17<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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02:37<tusharthantharate>Hi Guys
02:38<pparadis>!ask
02:38<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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02:38<tusharthantharate>I made some changes in /pool/main/c/cd-setup_0.17.3_all.deb
02:38<tusharthantharate>not my iso is not working
02:39<tusharthantharate>There was a problem reading data from the CD-ROM. Please make sure it is in the drive.
02:39<pparadis>tusharthantharate: what are you actually trying to accomplish?
02:39<tusharthantharate>i am doing some custmization in it
02:39<tusharthantharate>changing backgroud image and all
02:39<pparadis>http://wiki.debian.org/DebianCustomCD/
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02:41<spo0nman>hi, i'm facing a strange problem … two hosts with the same squeeze version, kernel and the absolute same source.list. On one of them I can see and install the jruby package and the other does not see the latest jruby package but some old version. Any clues!?
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02:41<tusharthantharate>the main problem i am facing is when after doing chnages i am re-creating the debian package wich is getting created
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02:41<tusharthantharate>but when i put it back in dir listing and creats
02:41<tusharthantharate>iso
02:42<pparadis>spo0nman: did you run apt-get update first?
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02:42<tusharthantharate>it then throws erre
02:42<tusharthantharate>*error
02:42<spo0nman>pparadis: yeah! many times. I did a apt-get clean all as well
02:42<pparadis>spo0nman: please pastebin the /etc/apt/sources.list for both systems to http://paste.debian.net
02:42<spo0nman>sure
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02:43<pparadis>spo0nman: please note that mirrors _may_ not always be in sync all the time.
02:44<tusharthantharate>the main problem i am facing is when after doing changes i am re-creating the debian package which is getting created successfully but when i put it back on the dir listing and creating iso
02:44<tusharthantharate>at the time of installation it is giving error
02:44<pparadis>tusharthantharate: did you review the info in the link i gave you earlier?
02:44<spo0nman>pparadis: it's not a mirrors problem, as i'm have my own mirror and apt repo as well.
02:44<tusharthantharate>yes but not mentioned what exactly needs to be done
02:45<pparadis>spo0nman: so you're using something like apt-cacher-ng or similar, and you're certain both systems are using the same mirror?
02:46<spo0nman>pparadis: yeah! i'm running squid
02:46<spo0nman>i restarted squid and tried as well
02:46<pparadis>spo0nman: please also pastebin any output you're seeing that indicates a problem.
02:49<pparadis>spo0nman: please see this --> http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/apt-cacher-ng
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02:56<spo0nman>pparadis: i'm doing apt-get clean all; apt-get update on all the machines. It may be that they have older versions of the source.list
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02:57<spo0nman>pparadis: apt-cacher-ng it had some bugs in lenny so i moved to squid
02:57<spo0nman>pparadis: is it stable now?
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03:14<tusharthantharate>i ran integrity check on iso
03:14<tusharthantharate>No valid Debian CD-ROM
03:14<tusharthantharate>The CD-ROM you have inserted is not valid Debian CD-ROM. Please change the disk
03:14<tusharthantharate>i am getting this
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03:16<rebli>where can i ask about pulseaudio?
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03:18<tusharthantharate>guys i reallt need help here
03:18<tusharthantharate>i cant make it work
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03:24<spo0nman>pparadis: that was the issue. Doing a apt-get clean on all machines solved it. Cheers!
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03:35<rebli>I'm upgrading with apt-get install ia32-libs, but i get the error ia32-libs : Depends: ia32-libs-i386 but it is not installable
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03:39<towo^work>rebli, http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/
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03:43<tusharthantharate>guys i have an opensource application that has been embeded in debain os
03:43<tusharthantharate>i want to make some chnages in that opensource version
03:44<tusharthantharate>but i am getting following message while installtion
03:44<tusharthantharate>An installation step failed.
03:44<tusharthantharate>You can try to run the failing item again from the menu, ot skip it and choose something else. The failing step is: Load installer components from CD
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03:46<tusharthantharate>i am actually making changes in cd-setup package
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03:47<tusharthantharate>guys i am really stuck.. any direction will be appreciated
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03:50<tusharthantharate>please any one atleast reply to my query
03:50<devil_>tusharthantharate: #debian-mentors would be the proper place to ask
03:50<tusharthantharate>Okay
03:50<tusharthantharate>thanx devil
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06:18<Edowardo>Squeeze 64-bit, audio issues: Only one app or web plug-in can use the audio output at a time. Example, skype will work but playing music from a media player will not. Once skype is close the media player will work immediately. Attempts to remedy have been, .asoundrc and pulse audio tweaks, none have worked. Anyone know what's causing the issue?
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07:01<tusharthantharate>Guys please tell me what other changes do i need to make after making changes in existing debian package in debian os
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07:10<ectospasm>tusharthantharate: you lost me
07:10<tusharthantharate>?
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07:12<devil>tusharthantharate: was #debian-mentors not helpful?
07:13<tusharthantharate>no
07:13<devil>it usualy is
07:13<tusharthantharate>Okay. do u know any other channel where i can get my solution
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07:14<devil>no, mentors is the place to go. this here is user-support
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07:16<tusharthantharate>Okay thanx
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07:23<grove>,checkbackport libmtp9
07:23<judd>Backporting package libmtp9 in sid→squeeze/i386: all build-dependencies satisfied using squeeze, archignore, squeeze-backports.
07:24<grove>I could use libmtp9 for squeeze, so I asked judd about backporting it (I did it in private msg, but I've also just done it in channel) and as far as I can see, it says it is possible, so I added a deb-src line for wheezy to sources.list `apt-get source libmtp9` and can see it lists debhelper >=9 but squeeze only has 8.0.0 - Am I misinterpreting what judd says or doing something (what?) wrong?
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07:26<apoleon>grove: you have to use debhelper from squeeze-backports
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07:28<grove>apoleon: Thanks, I'll try that
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07:50<sagar>Hi! Can someone tell me how to limit the download speed in rtorrent? It's making browsing impossible.
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07:51<apoleon>sagar: you can set a global download_rate in .rtorrent.rc
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07:56<sagar>apoleon: Is there a way to do it dynamically? I would want to utilize the max when not browsing.
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07:57<sagar>!hi
07:57<dpkg>hello, sagar
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07:58<apoleon>sagar: you can also use the ASD and ZXC keys in rtorrent or asd and zxc for upload
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08:06<abrotman>sagar: wondershaper
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08:11<sagar>apoleon: throttling seems to be working. It takes a long time to reflect though, probably because it's averaged over certain time. Thanks...
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08:12<abrotman>sagar: wondershaper would let the system do it
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08:14<sagar>abrotman: Just installed. How to use it though?
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08:16<abrotman>it has documentation
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08:16<abrotman>it's a bit more complex than just changing the rate in rtorrent, but it's more 'automagic'
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08:18<sagar>abrotman: I`m liking the idea. I'm going through the documentation. :)
08:19<abrotman>!wondershaper
08:19<dpkg>The Wonder Shaper is a script using the traffic shaping features of the Linux kernel to fix some problems, e.g. ensuring downloads continue at full speed while uploads occur at their maximum rate, keeping good interactive response times while bulk transfers are busy. Packaged for Debian, read /usr/share/doc/wondershaper/README.Debian after installation. http://lartc.org/wondershaper/ See also <lartc>.
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08:19<abrotman>sagar: i get the impression, that's what you're after ?
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08:23<sagar>abrotman: well, I guess it wont apply to my scenario, as I have bandwidth shared over a router. My router does not have QoS. I'll anyway configure it so that my linux box better utilizes available bandwidth.
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09:00<kop>sagar: The big deal, especially on asymmetric connections, is to make sure the upstream acks get priority so downstream is not throttled on the remote side.
09:01<kop>sagar: (I prefer to turn the knobs myself, something like ferm makes this easier. YMMV.)
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09:07<safinaskar>what means debian-updates?
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09:08<safinaskar>for example, what is in this repo? ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/squeeze-updates
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09:10<gnugr>!squeeze-updates
09:10<dpkg>squeeze-updates is a suite providing updates to some stable packages (from <proposed-updates>) prior to a <point release>. All packages from squeeze-updates will be included in point releases. This suite replaces the Debian Volatile archive starting from Debian 6.0. http://www.debian.org/News/2011/20110215 http://wiki.debian.org/StableUpdates . Not to be confused with <squeeze/updates>, ask me about <security>.
09:11<safinaskar>gnugr: thanks
09:11<safinaskar>!security
09:11<dpkg>Put "deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib non-free" in your /etc/apt/sources.list file to keep up-to-date on security updates in stable. Run "aptitude update" and "aptitude upgrade" (or "aptitude full-upgrade" if the updates are kept back). Also ask me about <dsa>, <security backports>, <oldstable security>, <testing security>, <unstable security>.
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09:15<salamander>Hello there, im triyng to use install my webcam "Mustek gsmart mini2". It is supoused to use gspca module already in the kernel, and lsusb shows the correct info but when I run "webcam" it exits with "v4l2: open /dev/video0: No such file or directory"
09:15<salamander>the same happens when I try to open a capture device under vlc
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09:16<salamander>and there is no /dev/video0 file or directory
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09:21<salamander>here dmsg output http://pastebin.com/80nqVeUf
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09:26<TobiX_>salamander: Which kernel version?
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09:27<salamander>TobiX, 2.6.32-5-686
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09:33<TobiX>salamander: Which gspca modules are loaded?
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09:34<salamander>TobiX, gspca_sunplus and gspca_main
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09:34<kop>salamander: It never hurts to try a newer kernel from backports.debian.org. I've no idea if that's really the problem though. Does "lsmod | grep gspca" show the module loaded?
09:35<salamander>kop, yes
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09:37<salamander>lsusb | grep video and gspca http://pastebin.com/C23YihFs
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09:45<gnugr>salamander:check your system-settings->sound/video can't you see your webcam?
09:47<salamander>gnugr, I dont know where is system-setting. Im using debian squeeze and lxde. Is there any command line tool to check that?
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09:48<gnugr>no system settings on lxde?
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10:14<salamander>I still cannot solve the /dev/video0 missing problem =/
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10:43<chebib>hayo dbs
10:44<chebib>Im gettign a sound issue :| no sound in my cards i try unmute with amixer no succes; amixer -c 1 set unmute Master 90%
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10:51<gnugr>chebid:here is a guide to check for sound https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/blog/craigevil-176422/trouble-shooting-alsa-on-debian-3018/
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10:53<chebib>gnugr, reading tnx in advance
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11:44<freesex>http://adf.ly/AyOX3
11:44<freesex>http://adf.ly/AyOX3
11:44<freesex>http://adf.ly/AyOX3
11:44<freesex>http://adf.ly/AyOX3
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11:58<karakikou>ola
11:59<retrospectacus>*yawn*
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12:01<leno>nån som kan svara varför jag inte kommer in i #ubuntu-se kanalen?
12:01<leno>;)
12:01<gnugr>!ubuntuirc
12:01<dpkg>This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server chat.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://chat.freenode.net/ubuntu
12:03<gdb>Maybe it's best if we asked Ubuntu to stop recognizing Debian as the "foundation on which Ubuntu is built." While it's nice that credit is given where credit is due, all the Ubuntu weenies who clog IRC and the mailing lists get pretty annoying pretty fast.
12:04<sney>ha
12:04<gdb>:-)
12:04<scientes>LOL
12:04<scientes>i almost took you seriously...
12:04<gdb>hehe
12:04<gdb>Poe's Law!
12:04<sney>I figure they'll start doing that eventually anyway whether debian likes it or not
12:04<gdb>Yeah, true...
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12:05<sney>I mean, they dropped the "linux" already
12:05<scientes>thats the joke
12:05<scientes>http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/16196884/images/1315266519347.jpg?dur=301
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12:14<Osiris_X>I used to have patch the udisks code and rebuild the package to get it to mount Ext USB HDDs with specific permissions and group. I have now switched to using udisks-glue - it works great (for this basic task). However I want it to autostart. How do I achieve this?
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12:15<DrDynamic>Hey folks, I'm running squeeze and trying to figure out what package provides the LZO compression libraries (as required by tinc, although that is irrelevant, I think?). Any pointers?
12:16<Osiris_X>how does udisks get run? (it doesn't appear to be a boot time daemon
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12:18<sney>!tell DrDynamic about debtags
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12:28<DrDynamic>sney: "No results for lzo" ;)
12:29<sney>hrm, if it's anything like lzw there might be licensing issues, so it'd be in non-free or not available at all. that's just a guess though
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12:29<DrDynamic>Alright. I got it now, turns out that the tinc configure script required a header only available in the lzo dev package.
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13:38<ceipha>Hi! I use Debian Squeeze and Gnome. I have American English, Russian and Norwegian layouts enabled in Gnome. Suddenly, a couple of weeks ago, the combinations like Ctrl+C and Ctrl+W stopped to work in Gnome Terminal. These combinations now produce respective Russian Cyrillic characters instead. I fail to understand what I have done wrong, I can't remember tickling with any preferences. Ctrl+... combinations work fine in other applications
13:38<ceipha>like Iceweasel and XChat. Any ideas concerning what it can be? Any help will be appreciated.
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13:52<frac>hi, i just installed debian on my laptop
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13:52<frac>however, there was a problem in that grub wouldnt load afterwards
13:53<frac>i managed to boot from my usb thathad unetbootin on it
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13:53<frac>how cna i fix this?
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13:53<sney>frac: did you have the usb key inserted while grub was installing?
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13:56<frac>yeah, because installed it from the usb itself
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13:56<frac>are you implying that it may have been installed to the usb itself?
13:56<sney>it probably installed grub to the usb stick. this happens sometimes
13:57<frac>huh
13:57<frac>so i might get it to work properly by installing it now on the HDD
13:57<frac>thanks!
13:57<sney>yeah
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13:57<sney>when the installer asks if you want to install grub to the mbr, you can select 'no' and it'll give you a list of devices instead
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14:00<turk30>hi leute
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14:04<frac>brb checking if it works this time
14:05<frac>will come back if it doesn't :P
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14:14<frac>aw man i tried re-installing grub but all i got was a black screen with a cursor again
14:14<frac>i had to boot from the usb again :(
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14:14<frac>are there any configurations i might have to make?
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14:15<frac>or: might having an encrypted disk have to do with it haha
14:15<sney>yes, that's important
14:16<frac>the bootloader is supposedly in a non-encrypted partition
14:16<frac>but perhaps something failed hahaha
14:16<frac>i guess its google time now :P
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14:21<frac>yay! found a blog post that's all about my specific problem
14:21<frac>i guess im not coming to bother you guys more now :D
14:21<frac>thanks anyway for all the help
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14:27<simon>hola
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14:33<penelope>hola
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14:34<penelope>cvfdegjdrgnmfigjk +}
14:34<penelope>-cf
14:34<penelope>chupalo
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15:30<zsolt_hun>hi there.my flash plugin nonfree crashes very often if i go to openmeeting.please help me
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15:46<canaima>hola
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15:49<AlexLikeRock>hola canaima, pasata a #debian-es para ayuda en español, aqui son muy especialitos...
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16:34<ce>where is this?
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16:35<@Ganneff>here
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16:38<mwalling>now its there
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16:45<retrospectacus>AlexLikeRock: what's up
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16:45<AlexLikeRock> i install kvm-qemu with virt-manager but , at first start say " Unable to connect to libvirt. Verify that the 'libvirtd' daemon is running."
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17:11<AlexLikeRock>i found , its = /etc/init.d/libvirt-bin restart
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17:11<AlexLikeRock>tanks nobody :-D
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17:13<Jzebus>..it did tell you to verify libvirt was running :~P
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17:17<AlexLikeRock>yes but i try with others bad comands, like ; service libvirtd restart , virsh net-start default, etc, etc
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17:17<AlexLikeRock>and i donow the correctly comand to do :-(
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17:18<Jzebus>sorry, I was kidding a little, glad you sorted it out
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17:20<devil>AlexLikeRock: now you do.
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17:21<AlexLikeRock>is working :-D
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18:30<niktaris>hi, I have setup a vpn server on squeeze and everything seems to work ok when I connect from inside the local network. But I can't connect from the ousite eventhouth port forwarding is enabled and the port seems to be open. Any hints ?
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18:38<grummund>Hi, does anyone know if symlinks awould be permitted under /etc/logrotate.d ?
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18:40<grummund>man page says "The only files which are ignored are files which are not regular files (such as directories and named pipes) ..." which although not mentioning symlinks suggests they will be ignored.
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18:41<abrotman>seems like it would be easy to test .. and based on what that says, it shuld work
18:42<grummund>how can i test without waiting a day?
18:43<grummund>i read the man page as if symlink is not a "regular file", hence the question...
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18:43<grummund>but if it's likely to work i can just try it and wait
18:45<grummund>ok looking at cron.daily i guess: /usr/sbin/logrotate /etc/logrotate.conf
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18:47<abrotman>rcox: grummund man logratote, you can force it
18:49<grummund>thanks. it looks like symlinks are accepted
18:50<abrotman>ignore that rcox bit :)
18:50<grummund>:)
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19:09<rebli>how can i obtain the list of parameters that is possible to pass to the kernel at boot?
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19:12<dvs>!wayttd rebli
19:12<dpkg>What Are You Trying To Do, rebli?
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19:15<rebli>well, short answer play with loglevel, medium answer see if there are other options for debug, long answer ... let me know if you want all that
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19:16<abrotman>!tell rebli about bootlog
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19:18<grummund>Anyone use fail2ban? i'm having trouble defining a mail action, it almost looks like the stock conf is wrong.
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19:19<abrotman>does it have docs?
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19:19<abrotman>i haven't used it in awhile
19:19<grummund>yes it does
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19:21<rebli>abrotman: thx, please note that i need the very early messages, if i understand, bootlogd is managed after mounting /, and by the way i'm in unstable
19:22<rebli>dvs: what's wayttd?
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19:25<abrotman>rebli: try it .. i think if you enable that, you'll end up with all of it in some logs in /var/log/
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19:32<grummund>yep the stock conf file is borked
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19:44<sla>hi
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20:45<bderrly>any particular reason that /etc/debian_version says i have wheezy/sid rather than just wheezy? i installed wheezy and have no references to sid in any of my sources
20:45<abrotman>that's how it works until wheezy gets closer to release
20:45<abrotman>don't let it concern you .. anybody that might be helping you here knows what it means
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20:46<bderrly>just seemed odd to me
20:46<abrotman>bderrly: lsb_release -a
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20:47<bderrly>abrotman: i forbot about that command, i went in search of /etc/lsb[-_]release and didn't see it
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20:48<abrotman>bderrly: feel better?
20:48<bderrly>i suppose so :)
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20:52<allen>Hi
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20:53<allen>skype
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20:56<abrotman>what?
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22:36<itamar_>boa noite
22:36<itamar_>pessoal
22:36<itamar_>?
22:37<abrotman>!PT
22:37<dpkg>Por favor use #debian-pt para ajuda em portugues ou #debian-br para ajuda em portugues do brasil. ( /join #debian-pt )
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22:37<somone>hello
22:37<somone>i am having issues installing squeeze stable
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22:37<itamar_>como faço para configurar um servidor dhcp
22:37<itamar_>?
22:38<itamar_>tenho que colocar em uma red
22:38<itamar_>rede com 10 maquina
22:38<itamar_>wireless
22:38<itamar_>??
22:38<somone>getting to the base install step, it installs all the software and then at the end displays: No installable kernel found in the defined APT sources
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22:38<somone>has anyone run across this before?
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22:40<abrotman>somone: which installer? what is your system ?
22:40<somone>i've tried them all, graphical, text, text expert
22:40<somone>all have the same issue
22:40<somone>i've tried cd1, netinst, and test
22:40<abrotman>which architecture?
22:41<somone>amd64
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22:43<somone>i've only found this link
22:43<somone>http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2012/04/msg00034.html
22:43<somone>with a similar issue, but i don't have apt-get installed
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22:55<somone>yo abrotman, i think i figured it out
22:55<somone>i was using unetbootin to copy the iso image to a usb
22:55<abrotman>oh yeah .. that thing rarely works
22:55<somone>and i'm pretty sure that was messing it up
22:55<abrotman>!tell somone about usb install
22:56<abrotman>not really sure why people use it, doesn't seem to work very well
22:56<somone>i just tried cat <iso> > /dev/sdb
22:56<somone>and it worked
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22:56<abrotman>ah okay
22:56<somone>yea, other distros have you use some software to write the image
22:57<somone>but that's amazing that you can just cat the iso
22:57<somone>anyway, thanks
22:57<somone>have a good one
22:57<abrotman>enjoy
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22:58<xenome>anyone having trouble with the nvidia 302.17 drivers?
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