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#debian IRC Logs for 2012-07-26

---Logopened Thu Jul 26 00:00:36 2012
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00:28<rodin>Hello, everyone!
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00:29<rodin>I've got a burning question. How do I change a desktop shortcut icon?
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00:32<rodin>Anyone?
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00:33<rodin>There's a ton of people in here, is everyone taking a nap!? I need a bit of help!
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00:35<rodin>Still, no one stepping up? Not even a confirmation that someone's even here?
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00:37<rodin>C'mon... I'm at a loss here!
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00:39<rodin>Why does it seem like everybody just logs into these things to just make people think they'll get much needed help?
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00:42<rodin>Can someone PLEASE help me?
00:44<rodin>Anyone?
00:46<rodin>This shouldn't be hard, I'm just trying to change desktop icons!
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00:47<rodin>Anyone... please help...
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00:51<rodin>I see people logging in, but no one helping...
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00:52<rodin>Ok, let's try this again. Can anyone see this?
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00:53<rodin>If you can, can you tell me how to change the desktop icons?
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00:54<rodin>Anyone?
00:54<rodin>Do I need to start targeting people?
00:56<rodin>hazard2 stderr simplew samsul Can one of you tellme how to change the icons on the desktop?
00:56<simplew>rodin: betterask google
00:57<rodin>simplew: I tried. I couldn't find any RELAVANT searches.
00:57<simplew>rodin: thats for sure is done in dconf but i dont know how
00:58<rodin>simplew : Damn. Know anyone who does?
00:59<rodin>simplew : It seems that google thinks I want to change the menu icon...
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01:00<simplew>rodin: you could change the icon name from /usr/share/icons/` the theme you use`
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01:01<simplew>rodin: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1779071
01:02<rodin>simplew: Lemme see how this works.
01:04<rodin>simplew: you do remember this is debian, correct? But I see what you're getting at.
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01:06<rodin>simplew: I can't seem to find the "shell" file icon...
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01:07<rodin>Dur, I think I may have found my answer...
01:09<rodin>simplew: Lemme try it, and I'll let you know what happens.
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01:14<rodin>simplew: Just keeping you informed. Here's what I found. I'm going to be trying it in a second. http://askubuntu.com/questions/99635/how-to-associate-an-icon-with-a-shell-script
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01:21<rodin>simplew: Got it! That worked!
01:21<rodin>Thanks for your help!
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03:02<sagar>Hi! I'm trying to set iceweasel as the default application, but I don't find the "Default Application" option in Application->System Tools->System Settings. I'm using wheezy.
03:02<sagar>*iceweasel as default browser...
03:03<sagar>Is there a new way to set the default applications somewhere?
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03:06<sagar>err... I've found it. Under Details....
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04:01<Rainbowtron>I'm trying to use VLC to save the stream from mms://ctnv1.ctn.state.ct.us/M/JOINT%20PH%207-24%20G.wmv?MSWMExt=.asf but I get errors every time. Some profiles result in desynced audio/video, and some won't open in most players and editors. Can somebody please help me with this?
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04:48<royandbear>hi all could someone help me to install a .bz2 file in ubuntu?
04:49<grove>!ubuntu
04:49<dpkg>Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>.
04:49<royandbear>xubuntu
04:50<SynrG>it really makes no difference. we only support debian. there is also #xubuntu @ freenode if that helps
04:51<grove>xubuntu is till ubuntu and thus not debian - Apart from that a .bz2 is just an archive, if you don't know what you're doing you probably shouldn't be trying to install it
04:51<grove>s/till/still/
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05:51<bobcollins>hello people
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06:54<oliva>hi there I'd like to use the vesa driver for X but I get "ignoring device with a bound kernel driver". How can I fix this?
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07:03<nycheto>hello everyone
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07:10<nycheto>hi there
07:11<nycheto>im newbie in debian i have just installed it and i need help ,any volunteer?
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07:12<anbe>!ask
07:12<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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07:13<nycheto>ok thanks and sorry for being noob
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07:15<babilen>nycheto: Don't worry - Just ask your question if you have one. It is hard for us to read your mind ;)
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07:17<XReaper>seriously, the only stupid question is the question not asked
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07:18<nycheto>ok what i have to do to install manpages in spanish?
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07:20<XReaper>i would assume you need your locale to be set
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07:21<babilen>nycheto: You want to install the manpages-es and manpages-es-extra packages as well -- You should also set your locale to Spanish. The former can be done by running, say, "apt-get install manpages-es" in a terminal. The latter is explained in "/msg dpkg locale" and "/msg dpkg locales"
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07:21<babilen>nycheto: I would furthermore recommend to read the excellent Debian administration handbook - http://debian-handbook.info/
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07:36<animus123>anybody here to help??
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07:39<gnugr>animus123:just ask.....
07:39<babilen>animus123: Just ask your question. Or if that was your real question then the answer is: Yes
07:40<animus123>i want use downloader?but don't know which?
07:41<babilen>animus123: What do you want to download? What do you mean by "downloader" ?
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07:42<animus123>babilen:downloader means a software use to download the file.like orbit downloader in windows.
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07:43<babilen>animus123: wget typically works, no idea what orbit downloader does but you might want to search the package archive. See "/msg dpkg search" for inspiration. You might look for tools such as multiget but *shrug* (/me has to run now)
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07:44<animus123>babilen:ok,i will try!
07:44<babilen>animus123: Googling for "orbit downloader linux" or "downloader linux" (and variations thereof using synonyms, hyper- and hyponyms) will probably yield a plethora of results too.
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07:45<animus123>babilen:nope,orbit downloader doesn't available for linux.it's only for windows.
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07:46<babilen>Yeah, but that query will probably satisfy your information need in that you find documents that discuss alternatives :)
07:46<babilen>fwiw, I haven't had the need for anything but a browser, wget and curl in the last decade ...
07:47<animus123>babilen:do you ever had use windows?
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08:06<Edowardo>Having an issue with playing concurrent audio/sound on a Debian 64 system. Tried a few tweaks off google with asound and pulse but to no avail. Just tried a fresh install to see if it would solve it self, but it's still happening.
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08:11<abrotman>Edowardo: details about your environment will be helpful
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08:12<XReaper>Really
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08:12<XReaper>abrotman: i think you scared them away
08:12<XReaper>:P
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08:22<abrotman>oh well ..
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10:23<Glarbex>I just did an upgrade of a system from squeeze to wheezy, but now /etc/debian_version says "wheezy/sid". What does this mean?
10:24<grove>That's expected.
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10:24<Glarbex>Okay, so it doesn't mean that I've accidentally upgraded to some sort of hybrid system?
10:25<themill>!wheezy/sid
10:25<dpkg>Debian doesn't distinguish if a system runs testing or unstable. "wheezy/sid" means a system is either tracking testing or unstable (or a mix). If you want the list of releases your system really tracks, ask me about <tracked suites>. Also ask about <why wheezy/sid>, <list repositories>.
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10:26<Glarbex>Okay, fair enough.
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11:39<Guest837>hello
11:39<retrospectacus>hi!
11:39<Guest837>how do i change my nickname?
11:39<retrospectacus>type /nick newname into this chat
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11:40<TeoToyo>Holas
11:40<maria>hola
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11:40<retrospectacus>!es-social TeoToyo & maria
11:40<dpkg>TeoToyo & maria: Este canal es de ayuda con ordenadores en Ingles. Si no necesitas ayuda con tu ordenador por favor ingresa al canal social de #debian-es con /join #debian-es-cachondeo. Tus amigos probablemente ya esten ahi.
11:40<mattriley>thank you retrospectacus!
11:40<retrospectacus>np
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11:41<maria>laprimeravesno
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11:41<maria>qqperdon
11:41<mattriley>do you have experience with setting up NX server in debian with SELinux enabled?
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11:41<maria>quieesmattriley
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11:42<BELTRAN>holaaaaaaaaa
11:42<maria>holaatodos
11:42<wendy>hola
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11:42<BELTRAN>mateo
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11:42<maria>hola wendy
11:42<BELTRAN>hola amigas
11:42<retrospectacus>spaniards: Este canal es de ayuda con ordenadores en Ingles. por favor ingresa al canal social de #debian-es con /join #debian-es-cachondeo
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11:43<mattriley>anyone? NX server with SELinux on debian?
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11:43<peter1138>Sad, I forgot about gnome 3 :-(
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11:43<BELTRAN>wendy
11:43<wendy>me responde '
11:43<TeoToyo>quien es maria
11:43<retrospectacus>mattriley: you should describe the problem you are having, not ask if anyone uses it. we're lazy like that
11:43<TeoToyo>holas
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11:44<wendy> ¿
11:44<TeoToyo>hola natalia
11:44<carlos>hola
11:44<Nathalia>hola
11:44<TeoToyo>CArlos?
11:44<retrospectacus> Este canal es de ayuda con ordenadores en Ingles. por favor ingresa al canal social de #debian-es con /join #debian-es-cachondeo
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11:44<carlos>con quien hablo
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11:45<retrospectacus>gracias
11:45<retrospectacus>!tell mattriley about ask
11:46<mattriley>ok.. basically,i have NX server installed in a Debian box which was working fine. I have recently switched on SELinux and now when i do setenforce=1, NX failes to connect, saying the connection is refused. How do i get SELinux to allow NX connections? I am using the non-free NoMachine's NX server
11:46<mattriley>and client
11:46<themill>Nathalia, wendy, TeoToyo, carlos: please play elsewhere
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11:50<mattriley>can someone point to me a good guide (website) on how to configure services to work with SELinux?
11:51<retrospectacus>!selinux
11:51<dpkg>Security Enhanced Linux (SELinux) is NSA's port of the FLASK Security Architecture to Linux. Also it can make your system unbootable if you uninstall it. Unofficial FAQ: http://www.crypt.gen.nz/selinux/faq.html . http://wiki.debian.org/SELinux http://selinuxproject.org/ #selinux on irc.freenode.net. See also <apparmor>, <tomoyo>.
11:51*retrospectacus shrugs
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11:52<mattriley>well i installed SELinux thinking it would make my system more secure. In your opinion retrospectacus, is it necessary for a secure system?
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11:53<Black_Prince>good admin and firewall should do the job
11:53<retrospectacus>I've never tried it and I've never had a problem, except on shared webservers where dumb clients have buggy apps.
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11:54<retrospectacus>not sure if it would help there but if you're not running that kind of thing, then reasonable administration is fine, IMO
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11:57<mattriley>hmm, i see.. well i installed it primarily as an educational exercise,... i'll try and figure this out myself... generally in production environments, is it mandatory to have SELinux enabled? I.E. mailservers and webservers for corporate companies?
11:58<Black_Prince>as I said, good admin and firewall is all you need for security
11:58<Black_Prince>even when you have selinux running, misconfigured services can still pose a security hole to your system
11:58<retrospectacus>no. by default it's installed but disabled iirc, and as dpkg mentioned, uninstalling it may make your system unbootable
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11:59<retrospectacus>surely it's reasonably documented and easy to allow XY server to serve requests
11:59<mattriley>hmm ok...
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12:00<mattriley>anyway thank you people... this is my first time in an IRC... never used this before. Good Day to all
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12:05<o0u>I just installed xbmc and started it standalone (by adding exec ck-launch-session xbmc-standalone to my .xinitrc). But now I need to install the sound system. Should I just install alsa or pulseaudio?
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12:18<gerald>hello everyone,may i ask a question?
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12:20<retrospectacus>!ask to ask
12:20<dpkg>Don't ask to ask. Don't ask if anybody can help you with x. Just ask! If you're unsure how to phrase your question, ask me about <ask>.
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12:21<gerald>sorry
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12:22<gerald>hping3 -h
12:22<gerald> -i --interval wait (uX for X microseconds, for example -i u1000)
12:22<gerald> --fast alias for -i u10000 (10 packets for second)
12:22<gerald> --faster alias for -i u1000 (100 packets for second)
12:22<retrospectacus>gerald: no
12:22<retrospectacus>!tell gerald about paste
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12:24<retrospectacus>gerald: anyways just ask your question. make a paste on paste.debian.net if you think you need to show us that
12:26<gerald>1second=1000milliseconds,1millisecond=1000microseconds
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12:27<gerald>--fast alias for -i u10000 (10 packets for second) I test it ,but i think it should be 100 packets for second
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12:27<gerald>Am I wrong
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12:30<retrospectacus>looks like you're right
12:30<gerald>...
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12:34<Brustofski-Fan>Can routers calls issues with install of the distro.. Everytime i try to install debian... when it goes thru network setup i get no default locacation !! So it don't let me set package manager up because of that..
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12:36<retrospectacus>Brustofski-Fan: yes
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12:37<Brustofski-Fan>retrospectacus: Does that sound like router.. and what causes it..
12:37<retrospectacus>!idfma
12:37<dpkg>Insufficient Data For Meaningful Answer
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12:41<Brustofski-Fan>retrospectacus: next time would Domain Name >help.. router says belkin under domain name
12:41<retrospectacus>nah that doesn't matter
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12:42<retrospectacus>you're not getting a default gateway from the router? or...
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12:44<Brustofski-Fan>so moreless its just debian setup having trouble commicateing with the router
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14:09<Guest850>ubuntu on Air
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14:10<retrospectacus>!ubuntuirc Guest850
14:10<dpkg>Guest850: This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server chat.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://chat.freenode.net/ubuntu
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14:41<ivo888>hi, on lxde in debian 6.0.5 how can i add other keyboard layout?
14:46<devil>http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Change_keyboard_layouts
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14:50<ivo888>thank you. so here there isn`t control center and keyboard layouts like in KDE?
14:50<AlexLikeRock>join #debian-boot
14:51<ivo888>Only i must use xorg.conf?
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14:53<devil>ivo888: is fbxkb installed?
14:54<ivo888>yes, i install it
14:54<ivo888>but i can`t find it where is located
14:54<devil>and it does not work?
14:54<devil>start it
14:54<devil>in konsole
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14:54<ivo888>my "K" menu is too small and strange for. 2 days ago i have working KDE, but i make mistake with source.list and ...................
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14:55<devil>i thought we talk of lxde?
14:55<ivo888>yes yes. because i broke KDE
14:55<devil>well, fix it
14:55<ivo888>i add sqeeze and wheezy and i have big problems now
14:56<ivo888>now in xorg.conf i must add other keyboard?
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14:56<devil>you do not need xorg.conf
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14:57<AlexLikeRock>devil try with TWM
14:57<devil>AlexLikeRock: what?
14:57<ivo888>right click on fbxkb have only 2 menus information and quit
14:57<AlexLikeRock>its like gnome, kde , xlde
14:57<devil>AlexLikeRock: why would i want that?
14:58<devil>ivo888: i do not use lxde, so i can't help you further
14:58<ivo888>ok. thanks
14:59<ivo888>reboot to test :)
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15:01<Bireyn>hello
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15:02<Maulkin>!ask
15:02<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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15:05<AlexLikeRock>hellow
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15:22<Brustofski-Fan>I just did a fresh install of debian squeeze! But i did expert install. and i made a misteak. no root login... now i cant set anything up.. How can i give my self the root ?
15:22<Maulkin>Brustofski-Fan: search for lost root password and try that
15:22<Brustofski-Fan>or is it going to be faster and easyer just to take the livedvd and start over
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15:23<Brustofski-Fan>Maulkin: there is no lost.. i never gave myself root privlage for some reason
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15:23<Maulkin>Brustofski-Fan: Do you know the root password then?
15:23<user__>hello
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15:24<Maulkin>user__: You may want to try #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net unless this is a debian question...
15:24<Brustofski-Fan>Maulkin: sence i did not give myself root privalle the install did not ask for root password
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15:24<Maulkin>Brustofski-Fan: So follow what I said :)
15:25<Maulkin>Brustofski-Fan: basically it involves booting with a kernel parameter of init=/bin/sh, mounting the relevent disk and resetting the password.
15:25<Brustofski-Fan>can't search for something that was never made
15:25<ompaul>Brustofski-Fan: sudo -i and then passwd
15:25<Maulkin>Brustofski-Fan: you don't need to search for it.
15:25*ompaul shoots sudo in the knee for being not a flashing red screen
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15:26<Maulkin>Brustofski-Fan: it's been made, it just hasn't got a password set
15:26<ompaul>Bucciarati: try sudo -i
15:26<Maulkin>ompaul: That won't work with a fresh squeeze install.
15:26<Brustofski-Fan>ompaul: whats sudo -i going to do
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15:26<ompaul>!tias
15:26<dpkg>TIAS is "Try It And See".
15:27<ompaul>Maulkin: I was misinformed in that case
15:27<ompaul>Brustofski-Fan: nothing it seems from what Maulkin has informed me of
15:27<Maulkin>ompaul: sudo isn't installed with any users.
15:28<Brustofski-Fan>Sounds like sence it's compleatly fresh notthing on it.. might be easyer just to start over
15:28<Maulkin>ompaul: it does in ubuntu I believe.
15:28<blast007>if a root password isn't set, at least in the normal install, Debian gives the first user sudo rights.
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15:28<Maulkin>Brustofski-Fan: You can just follow the 'reset root password' routine to set it in the first place.
15:28<Maulkin>blast007: Coo... that's new to me.
15:28<ompaul>Brustofski-Fan: are you doing to try sudo -i in that case
15:29<ompaul>Brustofski-Fan: the password asked for is your own
15:29<ompaul>case closed after you type passwd and set a password for root
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15:30<Brustofski-Fan>ok
15:30<Brustofski-Fan>logout of the livecd
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15:30<Maulkin>Betting he'll be back?
15:31<ompaul>with a better question about broken grub?
15:32<devil>he installs siduction one day, debian next day, came back to us yesterday, today it's debian again....
15:32<Maulkin>Oh dear.
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15:33*Maulkin considers announcing the next release name
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15:33<ompaul>Maulkin: do it
15:34<ansgar>I would be amused if it was really called "wheezy+1" ;)
15:34<ompaul>hehe
15:34<ompaul>ansgar: might break apt?
15:34<ompaul>directory you want is in the place you don't want it to be
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15:35<Maulkin>You should get it tonight. Or tomorrow perhaps.
15:36<Maulkin>Depends when we finish the rest of th email
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15:36*ompaul awaits :)
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15:47*abrotman thinks the next release should be named Maulkin
15:48<scientes>we'll need to go break into pixar and retroactively change Toy Story now
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15:57<ompaul>actually after the MS contribution to the equality of the sexes it should be called Jessie
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15:58<ompaul>but RC would be a great name is RC a rc yet?
15:58<ompaul>hehe
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15:59<dvs>ompaul: jessie wasn't in ts1
15:59<dvs>but mic was
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15:59<ompaul>dvs: I can fantasise, seriously I can :-)
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16:00<dvs>heh
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16:17<abrotman>ompaul: you forgot about Bo
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16:22<ompaul>abrotman: I did
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16:23<themill>ompaul: experimental has "rc-buggy" as a codename.
16:24<daemonkeeper>(pund intended)
16:24<daemonkeeper>-d
16:24<ompaul>daemonkeeper: I don't know, pund is kind of cool as a play on words :)
16:25<themill>ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/rc-buggy/
16:25<ompaul>themill: that I didn't know
16:25<ompaul>(as was obvious I suppose)
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16:41<Appora>yo
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16:43<ectospasm>'sup?
16:43<XReaper>i didn't sleep
16:43<XReaper>:O
16:43<XReaper>meh
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16:50<RayzrShrp>anybody here familar with framebuffers
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16:52<heikkila>RayzrShrp, probably, just ask and be specific
16:53<RayzrShrp>I want to know if there is a way to view a picture remotely through a ssh session in secureCRT
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16:55<RayzrShrp>heikkila: is that possible?
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16:58<heikkila>I don't know
16:58<RayzrShrp>is it possible to view a picture through secureCRT and a ssh session?
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17:13<Nancy>someone here already configured qwebirc ?
17:13<Nancy>I have problems to compile
17:14<retrospectacus>!ask
17:14<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
17:15<Nancy> File "./compile.py", line 3, in <module>
17:15<Nancy> bin.compile.main()
17:15<Nancy> File "/var/www/qwebirc/bin/compile.py", line 72, in main
17:15<Nancy> pagegen.main(outputdir, produce_debug=produce_debug)
17:15<Nancy> File "/var/www/qwebirc/bin/pagegen.py", line 91, in main
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17:15<retrospectacus>Nancy: show us here: http://paste.debian.net
17:15<Nancy>sorry
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17:17<Nancy>http://pastebin.com/bKwLYp1T
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17:18<retrospectacus>!pastebin.com
17:18<dpkg>pastebin.com takes forever to load, makes us enter a captcha to see your paste and fills the screen with ads. Please use a different site, like http://paste.debian.net/
17:18<Nancy>I just need help
17:19<Nancy>http://paste.debian.net/180790/
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17:19<Nancy>at the source page site there is no documentation
17:20<th3cli3nt_Test>nabend zusammen..nur ganz fix ^^..ich hab ebend auf meinen System das Update gestartet und dabei wurden auch neue Packete für mysql gefunden..wenn ich das Upgrade starte kommt irgendwann ein Info File zum neuen mysql File ..und genau diesen kann ich nicht beenden damit das Upgrade weiter läuft
17:20<retrospectacus>!de
17:20<dpkg>Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de).
17:20<th3cli3nt_Test>es endet immer bei [end] und ich komme da nicht mehr heraus
17:20<th3cli3nt_Test>thx for Info
17:20<nadir>th3cli3nt_Test: hit the key q
17:20<nadir>th3cli3nt_Test: die q taste drücken, sollte klappen
17:21<th3cli3nt_Test>oh *G*.. i am test it
17:21<retrospectacus>Nancy: do you know python?
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17:22<Nancy>retrospectacus: I don't unfortunatly
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17:24<retrospectacus>well some file is missing config.STATIC_BASE_URL I guess
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17:25<Nancy>retrospectacus: I did all needed and the source can't generate url base
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17:28<Brustofski-Fan>fresh install debian squeeze.. Installer said something about no default rout. and it would not configure package manager!! here's a screen shot.. http://imgur.com/mDF3E
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17:29<retrospectacus>Brustofski-Fan: no default route? configure your router properly to give a gatway by dhcp
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17:30<Brustofski-Fan>retrospectacus: this the only distro that has happened to
17:30<Brustofski-Fan>dhcp is fine
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17:32<lacrosse1991>hello! Does anyone know of a debian squeeze repo with updated versions of java?
17:32<th3cli3nt_Test>thank @ all for the Info with the "q" Key ..the Upgrade is successfully ;-)
17:32<Brustofski-Fan>retrospectacus: is there away for me to configure the package manager..
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17:33<lacrosse1991>i am trying to run a jar that requires a new version "according to the dev" and i would like to avoid having to build from source if possible
17:33<Brustofski-Fan>but then this issue did not start until i got a new router
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17:36<lacrosse1991>actually would this be ok to use? http://ppa.launchpad.net/webupd8team/java/ubuntu
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17:36<devil>lacrosse1991: things have changed in java-land: http://wiki.debian.org/JavaPackage
17:36<ectospasm>lacrosse1991: no, don't mix and match Ubuntu packages on Debian. Baaaaad idea
17:37<devil>lacrosse1991: and no, do not use ubuntu packages on a debian install
17:37<retrospectacus>lacrosse1991: no, no and no... if you want java 7 you'll need wheezy
17:38<lacrosse1991>oh so its recommended to go with openjdk-7-jdk/openjdk-7-jre? are there any downsides to using this over the old java package?
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17:39<devil>lacrosse1991: try it. if it works for your needs, fine. if not, look at my link
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17:40<lacrosse1991>will do, and this is from the link lol
17:40<lacrosse1991>oh are you talking about the java package create from binary?
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17:41<devil>if open-java does not work for you
17:41<devil>there is scenarios that need sun (oracle) java
17:41<devil>although there should not be too many left
17:41<lacrosse1991>ok great, will give this a whirl and let you know if anything goes wrong, thanks again for your help though, much appreciated!
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17:49<lacrosse1991>one question, with the java package thing, does it support all binary updates (u5 for instance)? or just up to u2 so far?
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18:06<lacrosse1991>actually with the java-package, is that available in debian squeeze repos?
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18:07<themill>no
18:07<lacrosse1991>oh, what repo does it reside in?
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18:09<themill>,v java-package
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18:09<judd>Package: java-package on i386 -- lenny/contrib: 0.42; sid/contrib: 0.50; wheezy/contrib: 0.50
18:09<themill>I don't know if the wheezy/sid versions work for squeeze
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18:10<lacrosse1991>ok, thanks will give that a go!
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18:53<blackout_>does someone know if there is a "named connector" in gEDA like in eagle, line MISO in this picture http://dokuwiki.ehajo.de/_media/bausaetze:avr-isp-schaltplan.png?cache=
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18:54<retrospectacus>blackout_: ...this is #debian. try a channel more related to whatever you're talking about
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19:01<claw__>hey i am missing some thing in /sys in squeeze for cpufreqd
19:01<claw__>invoke-rc.d cpufrequtils start
19:01<claw__>CPUFreq Utilities: Setting ondemand CPUFreq governor...disabled, governor not available...done.
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21:08<janusian>hi
21:08<janusian>I'm having some problems with setting up chrome and chromium web browsers in debian squeeze
21:09<janusian>I installed google-chrome first, it went well and showed up under application>internet menu
21:09<janusian>I then installed chromium (on a whim) and now I see chromium in applications>internet menu
21:09<janusian>but no google-chrome
21:10<janusian>any ideas as to how I fix this problem?
21:10<janusian>just to be clear, both chromium and google-chrome work perfectly fine, just that I have to launch the latter from terminal rather than using the menu
21:11<janusian>hi
21:11<janusian>hmm, can anyone see my comments?
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21:42<tuxer>can I ask about fstab and nfs here?
21:48<duan>how instance bugzilla ?
21:48<tuxer>?
21:49<duan>how?
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21:52<tuxer>help!?!?!? :-(
21:52<dondelelcaro>tuxer: if it's on Debian, yes.
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21:53<tuxer>yes, debian kde is what I have installed
21:53<tuxer>using XChat
21:53<tuxer>I want to learn nfs and how to edit fstab for it
21:53<tuxer>reading about it but ?????????? :-(
21:53<dondelelcaro>tuxer: what about it is confusing?
21:54<tuxer>what is supposed to be in fstab
21:54<tuxer>I just want to learn a simple setup for now... so I can access one computer from another
21:54<tuxer>1 computer is the server and the client computer, I set up fstab for it, right?
21:55<dondelelcaro>tuxer: you don't necessarily need to use fstab to mount nfs, but if you wanted to it'd look like this:
21:55<tuxer>client computer, I want to mount the directory of the other
21:55<tuxer>but, using ip address
21:55<tuxer>?
21:55<dondelelcaro>machinename:/nfs/export /path/to/mount/it nfs nfsoptions 0 0
21:55<tuxer>ok, thanks
21:55<tuxer>?
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21:55<dondelelcaro>normally you'd use the machine name, but you can also use an IP address
21:56<dondelelcaro>however, first you should figure out if you can mount the filesystem from the command line without mucking about with fstab
21:56<dondelelcaro>tuxer: once you've got it working with mount, then man 5 fstab; and you can see how to mount it there
21:56<tuxer>machine name? domain name?
21:57<dondelelcaro>tuxer: however you refer to the server that is exporting the nfs share. Doesn't really matter
21:57<dondelelcaro>tuxer: man 5 nfs; has examples on how to do it.
21:57<tuxer>dondelelcaro, but, this is for someone else and I want it mounted often?
21:57<dondelelcaro>tuxer: that's fine; you still mount it manually to make sure it's working, then you add it to fstab once it's working
21:58<tuxer>dondelelcaro, oh, ok
21:58<tuxer>how do I mount it manually?
21:58<tuxer>I know how to mount local machines
21:59<dondelelcaro>tuxer: mount machinename:/nfs/export /path/to/mount/it
21:59<tuxer>what you posted earlier
21:59<tuxer>ok
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22:00<tuxer>I need to read on the /export? I am not familiar...
22:00<tuxer>where do I look for machine name?
22:01<dondelelcaro>tuxer: the machine name is either the IP address or whatever the server is called.
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22:02<tuxer>is it easier to use the server name? can I look that up in some settings?
22:03<dondelelcaro>tuxer: 1) yes, but only if you're using DNS 2) you have to have assigned it via DNS. If you don't know, then you'll have to use the IP
22:05<tuxer>because then you use the assigned domain (name)?
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22:06<tuxer>else, you use the IP because it would be DHCP?
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22:15<tuxer>dondelelcaro: still there?
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22:16<dondelelcaro>tuxer: it doesn't matter if it's dhcp or not; if your server has a name, you can use it. If it doesn't, or you don't know it, use the IP.
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22:23<tuxer>dondelelcaro, I get it...thanks
22:23<tuxer>but, the syntax in the fstab line I still don't know what to use... but, I get a bit of the concepts :-{
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22:35<tuxer>is there anyone here who operates the user forum?
22:35<tuxer>is there some trick to doing a search?
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23:00<Sakara>Hi all, I would like to create an account on a system that doesnt have a password and that doenst appear in the login list of users.
23:00<Sakara>Can anyone point me towards some documentation to do this?
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23:04<pparadis>Sakara: are you saying you want to be able to log in as that user with no password?
23:05<Sakara>Not quite. I don't want to be able to login directly to the account
23:05<Sakara>I intend to use the account to start a service
23:05<Sakara>I don't want users to be able to login directly using that account
23:06<Sakara>I'd like to login as my own user id then do sudo su - <some account>
23:06<pparadis>Sakara: see adduser(8) and the "-r" option.
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23:14<Sakara>pparadis, I think its worked thanks for that :)
23:15<pparadis>Sakara: sure thing :)
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23:52<quentusrex_>Anyone able to help. I have a debian wheezy system that had dracut installed and initramfs removed. Now the system is not able to boot.
23:53<quentusrex_>I have started it up in a livecd, but I'm running into an issue trying to get it to mount the hard disk.
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