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#debian IRC Logs for 2012-07-30

---Logopened Mon Jul 30 00:00:43 2012
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00:05<Nemoder_>!nvidia
00:05<dpkg>http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers . Ask me about <nouveau> (no 3D support in Debian packages), <nvidia dkms> or <nvidia m-a>. For GPUs made before 2004, see <nvidia dkms-173xx> and <nvidia dkms-96xx> for legacy drivers. Installing directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia on irc.freenode.net.
00:07<lost-penguin>!nvidia dkms
00:07<dpkg>For Squeeze users. Ask me about <contrib> and <non-free sources>. "aptitude -r install linux-headers-2.6-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` nvidia-kernel-dkms && mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf". Run "update-initramfs -u" and restart your system to enable the <nouveau> blacklist. For legacy drivers, see <nvidia legacy>.
00:09<chealer>!tell lost-penguin about doesn't work
00:11<lost-penguin>i did specify, the wiki instructions and all the forum help I've found so far come up with "Unable to locate package $packagename" and terminates
00:12<chealer>lost-penguin: $packagename?
00:14<lost-penguin>like so far it came up with unable to locate nvidia-kernel-common nvidia-glx nvidia-settings nvidia-xconfig nvidia-kernel-dkms
00:15<chealer>lost-penguin: at which step?
00:17<lost-penguin>on the wiki i get stuck on step 2 , in the forum the instructions where given as 2 steps and i get stuck on step 1
00:19<chealer>lost-penguin: which Debian suite do you use?
00:20<lost-penguin>http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=65738 for the forum instructions i found
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00:23<lost-penguin>uname -r returns 2.6.32-5-amd64 , if i recall, i installed squeeze... whatever was on the front of the debian site
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00:26<chealer>!tell lost-penguin about suite
00:26<chealer>lost-penguin: that must be squeeze
00:26<chealer>lost-penguin: how did step 0 go?
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00:27<lost-penguin>6.0.5
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00:29<lost-penguin>think i overlooked that... does enabling those in synaptic also enable them in apt?
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00:39<lost-penguin>if i'm reading this right (lines with # at the beginning don't get used) then step 0 was already done
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00:47<chealer>lost-penguin: Synaptic's sources are APT's sources
00:48<chealer>lost-penguin: please provide your sources.list
00:49<lost-penguin>that's going to be a lot of typing, will take a moment
00:50<youlysses>lost-penguin: Paste it ...?
00:50<pparadis>lost-penguin: copy and paste to http://paste.debian.net
00:50<pparadis>or
00:51<pparadis>!tell lost-penguin about pastebinit
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00:52<slovacus>nothing
00:53<slovacus>hi
00:53<slovacus>hola
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00:53<pparadis>slovacus: do you have a debian question?
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00:54<lost-penguin>http://pastebin.com/sjDcCkj7
00:54<pparadis>lost-penguin: that paste is blank.
00:55<lost-penguin>hmm...
00:55<pparadis>lost-penguin: can you please simply copy and paste your /etc/apt/sources.list contents to http://paste.debian.net ?
00:55<pparadis>this is not complicated.
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00:56<Nemoder_>!pastebinit
00:56<dpkg>pastebinit is a command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>. NOTE: squeeze users, you must "pastebinit -b http://paste.debian.net" or configure pastebinit to use something other than pastebin.com. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | pastebinit". See also <pastebinit config>, <nopaste>.
00:57<pparadis>Nemoder_: yeah, he was told earlier... no results so far.
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01:06<lost-penguin>pastebinit gives me "this api has been disabled. please use pastebin's new api
01:07<lost-penguin>paste.debian.net
01:07<lost-penguin>wrong keyboard
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01:10<lost-penguin>paste.debian.net/181146
01:10<lost-penguin>http://paste.debian.net/181146
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01:11<lost-penguin>i'll get it right eventually
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01:20<TRestree>debian question!
01:20<youlysses>Ask!
01:20<TRestree>my /dev/modem does not appear!!!!!
01:20<TRestree>i connected 3 modems!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
01:21<TRestree>so upset...
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01:23<@Ganneff>so impatient
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01:25<youlysses>Ganneff: Way to many !!!!!!!!!!!! ...
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03:19<kilelme>hiii... is there another channel disscuss about po translation?
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03:28<sifu_>launching criticalmass and extremetuxracer unexplicably logs me out and cuases the xserver to restart!
03:29<sifu_>any clues plz?
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03:31<sifu_>i have recently disabled the shadow option to enable 3d acceleration
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03:39<sifu_>gsimmons:thanks
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04:15<Alan>hello
04:16<Losowski>hi
04:16<Alan>do you speak italian?
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04:19<Losowski>no
04:19<Losowski>English
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05:47<pleb2>Hi All, I have a big program with one of my servers updating :( it's stuck in a stupid loop with SQL 5.1 upgrade
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05:48<pleb2>Can someone take a look at my pastebin, my apt-get -f install isnt working at all and I dont know what to try next :'(
05:48<pleb2>http://pastebin.com/8jPAnhYR
05:49<Apollo>Stopping MySQL database server: mysqld failed!
05:49<Apollo>invoke-rc.d: initscript mysql, action "stop" failed.
05:49<Apollo>you need to stop mysql
05:49<Apollo>manually
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05:49<Apollo>and then try it again
05:49<pleb2>Thanks, i'll give that a go
05:50<pleb2>root@echo:~# /etc/init.d/mysql stop
05:50<pleb2>Stopping MySQL database server: mysqld failed!
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05:50<pleb2>Yeah i'd agree that's what the problem is !
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05:50<Apollo>pleb2: check syslog
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05:52<pleb2>I think this is it... >> /usr/bin/mysqlcheck: Got error: 1045: Access denied for user 'debian-sys-maint'@'localhost' (usi
05:52<pleb2>How could the debian-sys-maint user be screwed up? I'll try googling how to reset it
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05:53<themill>pleb2: did you overwrite your mysql database? or edit /etc/mysql/debian.cnf?
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05:58<Turner>hi
05:59<Turner>i backed up whole debian with dd
05:59<Turner>and also MBR
05:59<Turner>how can i restore them beside another OSs ?
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06:01<Turner>anybody here ?
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06:02<Turner>ctrl+G
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06:04<pleb2>@themill and apollo >> granted all priviliges on maintainance user on sql using password in debian.cnf >> Update works great now!! thanks so much!!
06:04<jack2>ciao
06:04<jack2>!list
06:04<dpkg>jack2: È possibile di scaricare un sacco di software libero puntando il tuo browser a http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-6.0.5-amd64-i386-netinst.iso !
06:04<themill>pleb2: I presume you either removed those privileges earlier or copied the mysql table over from some other installation?
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06:05<pleb2>themill I'm thinking something must have happend when went from lenny > squeeze
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06:05<themill>that bit should happen fine
06:06<themill>but if you're now sorted, then we can leave it as one of life's little mysteries and move on
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06:07<pleb2>@themill hmm, let me rephrase, I thinks something must have went wrong with the account possibly ages ago -- and the update to squeeze has caused it to manifest itself.
06:07<themill>ahh, quite possibly
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06:08<pleb2>This server is old - upgraded from etch as needed when even etch was old.. I think it's done very well considering! Thanks for your help :)
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06:12<themill>pleb2: no worries. One of the great things about debian is the ability to upgrade it like that... I've got a box somewhere that started out as a potato install and has just been upgraded ever since even just migrating the image to new hardware as the need arose)
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06:16<lucia>hä?
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08:30<s4br3>If I open my RAW photo files (actually .CR2) in Rawstudio any change in the parameters is saved per photo whether I want to or not. Is this the expected behaviour?
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09:12<debianuser>Hello. Need a bit of help. Can somebody confirm that the following command does (or does not) work from root on a 64-bit system?: debootstrap --arch=i386 wheezy chroot http://ftp.debian.org/debian/
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09:13<olasd>you should rather tell us what your issue is
09:14<OdyX>ftp.debian.org is a bad mirror choice btw.
09:14<olasd>indeed
09:14<OdyX>with http.debian.net you get faster and parallel download.
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09:15<debianuser>olasd: Well, I have a rather unusual messed system where the following command fails. So I just wanted to ask is it my system at fault or there's a bug somewhere...
09:15<olasd>but, how does it fail?
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09:18<debianuser>OdyX: About the mirror, actually that was the command run by `lb build` (which also fails for me).
09:18<OdyX>debianuser: lb is certainly configurable for the mirror choice
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09:22<peter1138>Hi, how do you install a i386 nvidia libgl1 on an amd64 wheezy system?
09:22<debianuser>olasd: On-screen-log ends with this: http://paste.debian.net/181188/ And debootstrap.log looks like this: http://paste.debian.net/181189/
09:23<OdyX>!multiarch
09:23<dpkg>Debian is working towards the ability to install packages from one architecture on a machine that is running a different architecture. This makes i386/amd64 issues simpler (no more ia32-libs!), helps tag firmware blobs with the correct arch and allows easier cross-compiling and bootstrapping. Multiarch support is a release goal for Debian 7.0 "Wheezy". http://www.debian.org/News/2011/20110726b http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch
09:23<peter1138>to install libgl1-nvidia-glx:i386 tries to bring in other stuff, like, a 32 bit kernel
09:23<peter1138>to install libgl1-nvidia-glx-ia32 wants to install ia32-libs...
09:24<engla>peter1138: 32-bit kernel or just the source of it?
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09:25<olasd>debianuser: mmm, that looks like an issue of debootstrap's installation ordering, lemme try
09:25<peter1138>oh, they're just recommends, i'll ignore that bit
09:26<peter1138>but
09:26<peter1138>libxvnc1:i386 conflicts with libxvnc1
09:26<peter1138>hmm
09:26<peter1138>*libxvmc1
09:26<engla>it's because libxvmc1 does not support multiarch
09:27<peter1138>ok
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09:27<peter1138>that's awkward because that's a dependency of libgl1-nvidia-glx
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09:28<engla>you can remove libxvmc1 (amd64)
09:28<engla>but I don't know about nvidia
09:28<peter1138>i can't because that'll remove the amd64 libgl1-nvidia-gkx (and other stuff)
09:30<engla>of course, sorry about that
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09:31<debianuser>olasd: It's just... I have two systems, the good 32-bit debian works fine with same debootstrap version and exactly same command, but this "broken" 64-bit system fails. So I just wanted to know is it my broken system to blame, or there's some 64-bit-related bug there.
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09:32<olasd>debootstrap is running now, we'll seel
09:32<olasd>see*
09:33<olasd>I: Base system installed successfully.
09:33<olasd>sudo debootstrap --arch=i386 wheezy dbs ftp://localhost/debian/ 86,46s user 15,58s system 33% cpu 5:03,14 total
09:34<olasd>well...
09:34<engla>peter1138: relevant bug http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=640499
09:34<peter1138>Yes, I saw that. It's rather old...
09:35<olasd>the x strike force is underpowered and I don't think non-free drivers are a priority :)
09:37<peter1138>No but it's a little worrying as Wheezy is frozen.
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09:37<debianuser>olasd: And you did that on a 64-bit system, right?
09:37<olasd>indeed
09:37<engla>right. I think ia32-libs is unsettled in wheezy as well
09:37<olasd>more-or-less up-to-date sid
09:39<debianuser>olasd: Thank you! I'll look what else have I messed up...
09:40<engla>peter1138: there's a link to fixed packages in the last comment. at your own risk, of course.
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09:43<OdyX>peter1138: that's the type of things that can get through the freeze policy, but it needs someone to do the actual work
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10:03<project2501a>guys, stupid question
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10:04<project2501a>i just followed the steps to create a bootable USB stick to install debian from. the guide clearly says "use fat16" . why fat16? why not fat32?
10:05<pparadis>project2501a: i believe people typically use dd to put the installer image on the media.
10:05<pparadis>what are you looking at?
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10:06<dvs>this must be "the flexiable way"
10:08<project2501a>http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03.html
10:08<project2501a>dvs: yeah the "flexible way"
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10:09<project2501a>that's what i followed. i'm kinda frustrated it has to be fat16 and i am frustrated at my own inability to make it boot from ext2/3 and grub :(
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10:15<dvs>project2501a: What I do is create one partition with fat16 (maybe 250MB) and another ext2 partition which takes up the rest of the USB drive.
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10:19<debianuser>project2501a: Technically, you can use any filesystem you want, you'll just have to make it working manually.
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10:20*debianuser uses grub-legacy to boot about 5 different livecds from a single fat32 partition on a usb stick.
10:20<gruetzkopf>hi. i have trouble with compiz. while its running, my mouse buttons only work while pressing alt or CTRL (except for gnome-panel)
10:21<project2501a>debianuser: cool. what do i have to learn/read to make it working manually?
10:23<debianuser>project2501a: Hm... I don't know. :) But I can try to explain how I did it with i.e. grub-legacy+fat32.
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10:26<project2501a>*sigh*
10:26<project2501a>debianuser: heh. maybe i can help you write a guide on the wiki?
10:26<project2501a>and then we can make multiple guides for all crazy filesystem support?
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10:30<debianuser>Not sure. General "guide" is just a few steps: make a bootable partition (fdisk+mkwhateverfs), install bootloader on it (grub, etc.), copy content of the livecd on that partition, and edit bootloader config adding the boot menu entry there.
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10:31<debianuser>But each of these steps depends on what exactly you need (what filesystem, what bootloader, what livecd). I can help with some specific cases but I'm not sure that it will work for everyone.
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10:36<EmleyMoor>Is there any way, short of rebooting, I can find out the version of my BIOS?
10:37<grove>EmleyMoor: I think that depends a lot on your actual hardware
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10:38<EmleyMoor>grove: The finding out or the BIOS?
10:39<blast007>EmleyMoor: dmidecode *might* get it, but it's probably more reliable to just check in the BIOS itself
10:39<grove>Mostly the BIOS, if it supports it, dmidecode will probably tell you in most cases
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10:39<EmleyMoor>Anyway, it looks like a version I'm pretty sure I haven't got may fix the trouble I'm having
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10:40<EmleyMoor>(they actually mention hangs with the CPU I'm using)
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10:42<EmleyMoor>Indeed, I am on the version before the fix!
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10:43<gruetzkopf>hi. i have trouble with compiz. while its running, my mouse buttons only work while pressing alt or CTRL (except for gnome-panel)
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11:18<pb_>hey guys. Is it quit difficult to fresh install debian?
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11:18<@Ganneff>no
11:19<pb_>i was introduced into linux using ubuntu. now im venturing into a real OS..
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11:19<pb_>would the install be similar ? or is it more indebt then plug cd in and click play.
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11:20<pb_>in depth
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11:21<francesco_>xbox360
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11:22<blast007>pb_: there may be a few more questions in the Debian install process, but it's still quite straight forward.
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11:23<pb_>thank you
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11:26<abrotman>!tell pb_ about ig
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11:28<tuxracer>why can't I create a directory on my HDD?
11:29<pb_>oh one last thing. netgear wireless works automatically?
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11:30<EmleyMoor>tuxracer: What happens when you try?
11:30<francesco__>come posso scaricare?
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11:31<tuxracer>I was using drag and drop and it's greyed out
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11:31<tuxracer>I can't do it via CLI either ... not sure what's going on
11:31<EmleyMoor>What happens on CLI when you can't?
11:32<francesco__>sculo inclesesate ma non par
11:32<tuxracer>I want the files to go in a particular directory
11:32<francesco__>giochi per xbox360
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11:33<EmleyMoor>tuxracer: Please explain the problem you are having in CLI - "I type ____ and get the response ____.", that sort of statement
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11:33<tuxracer>I don't know the full path name
11:34<tuxracer>sometimes, I really hate kde :-/
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11:34<tuxracer>EmleyMoor, it's an external drive
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11:35<tuxracer>it's mounted as /media/disk but only displays the files I moved there... but, I don't want them there... I want them in a particular directory on the drive
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11:35<EmleyMoor>Er, right... can you mkdir /media/disk/whatever?
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11:36<tuxracer>yeah
11:36<tuxracer>but, how come it isn't displaying all the other directories?
11:36<EmleyMoor>All what other directories?
11:37<tuxracer>there's a ton of directories on this HDD!
11:37<EmleyMoor>ls /media/disk - can you see them there?
11:37<tuxracer>no wonder ppl switch back to windows... this is insane... sigh
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11:37<tuxracer>no difference
11:38<EmleyMoor>Are you sure those directories are there?
11:38<tuxracer>yes, I can see them with Dolphin
11:38<EmleyMoor>What's Dolphin?
11:38<tuxracer>Dolphin File Manager
11:38<tuxracer>the file manager in kde
11:39<EmleyMoor>Oh right, a KDE thing...
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11:40<EmleyMoor>Can you take a shot of it and put it on picpaste.com?
11:40<tuxracer>will it help to reboot?
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11:40<EmleyMoor>tuxracer: Probably not
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11:48<fe>irc://irc.explosionirc.net/eagles
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12:12<apiecux>hello
12:13<apiecux>there is a problem with the bug report http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=666051 because it has been closed even if there is still present
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12:13<apiecux>(as you can see on the last message)
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12:14<apiecux>I don't know if there are other issues about it, but I would like to use wheezy with a working openssl version (1.0.0h-1)
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12:15<sney_>"If you think there still is a problem in openssl, please file a new bug."
12:15<apiecux>I have downgraded openssl packages to 1.0.0h-1, and it worked up to now
12:15<sney_>new bug reports get attention. you know what to do
12:16<apiecux>my question is not that
12:16<apiecux>few days ago, I have upgraded my wheezy, and the package openssh has been upgraded too
12:17<apiecux>and now it refuses connections with a message to tells me the version of openssl on the system is not the one used to be compiled
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12:17<sney_>what refuses connections, and where do you see the error?
12:17<apiecux>the error message was in /var/log/auth.log: "OpenSSL version mismatch. Built against 1000103f, you have 10000008f"
12:18<sney_>and how were you able to reproduce this message
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12:19<apiecux>after upgrade of the system, my openssl keept my opened connections, but any new tcp connection to port 22 were closed immediately
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12:20<apiecux>to fix it, I needed to upgrade openssl and now it accepts connections
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12:21<apiecux>problem is that I can't keep openssl 1.0.1c-3 because #666051 is blockant for me
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13:20<spacepluk>hi is there any way to play youtube videos without tearing?
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13:47<AlexLikeRock>spacepluk ; browse "madona" FILTER ----> WebM
13:47<AlexLikeRock>you can play without flash player ;-)
13:48<babilen>spacepluk: I assume that your real question is: "How can I avoid flash and still watch YT videos" -- See AlexLikeRock's comment (YT's HTML5 trial) or youtube-dl (apt-cache show youtube-dl) ... I am sure that similar programs exist.
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13:49<babilen>spacepluk: If that is not your question it would be good to rephrase it. You might also want to watch different videos if "tearing == shed tears/crying"
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14:19<i10neorg>When Ctrl-dragging a selection on Map Search, I see a dotted rectangle form, but upon release, nothing is selected (items bounded are not listed in the thumbnail area).
14:19<i10neorg>Using digikam 2.6.0 on Debian testing (Wheezy).
14:19<i10neorg>Known issue, trouble shooting ideas, thoughts?
14:19<i10neorg>Thank you.
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14:39<Semtex>hey guys, I'm building a new pc tomorrow and the motherboard has UEFI, has anyone managed to find a painless way of dual booting with windows?
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14:41<sney_>Semtex: I thinkt refit is supposed to do that
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14:43<Semtex>refit?
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14:44<Semtex>hmm
14:44<Semtex>looks interesting
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14:46<Semtex>thanks sney
14:46<Semtex>I will give it a go tomorrow
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15:36<Maggo>are the properitary ati drivers running fine under squeeze and do they work with two screens?
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16:31<cinka>hi
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16:31<retrospectacus>hi cinka
16:32<cinka>this is giving me a major headace, but i think i have a solution. maybe you can advice me on something
16:32<retrospectacus>!ask
16:32<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
16:32<cinka>:D
16:32<cinka>i have this board bought, but it has only boot optionality from SD-card
16:32<cinka>which is very VERY slow... it does have some USB2 things
16:33<cinka>so.. i can hookup a sata drive to usb, it might be not optimal, but its still way better than running it of SD
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16:33<cinka>so: bare OS (only used during boot, otherwise minimally) on SD CARD
16:33<cinka>all rest of applications: sata USB
16:34<cinka>problem is, i dont know how to change the "install directory" default in debian
16:34<cinka>idea's?
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16:38<engla>cinka: install debian into the usb, put /boot on the sd card. something like that should work (someone fill me in)
16:38<cinka>yes
16:38<cinka>but how do i change then the default install directory :o ?
16:39<engla>you don't have install directories, more like which device and partition
16:39<retrospectacus>you choose what partition during installation... what is "default install directory" means to you?
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16:39<cinka>if i like
16:39<retrospectacus>install normally on the SD and then move+symlink/mount /usr or so onto the HD
16:39<cinka>sudo apt-get install "random program"
16:39<cinka>it will install it in /opt
16:40<engla>nope
16:40<cinka>it want it to install, for example /media/"attached usb"
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16:40<retrospectacus>no it will not install to /opt
16:40<engla>cinka: I propose you install everything except /boot onto the usb disk
16:40<cinka>hows that possible :o ?
16:40<retrospectacus>yeah. just choose the SD for /boot and HD for / during installation
16:40<cinka>o
16:41<cinka>hey you know what
16:41<cinka>thats actually :D brilliant
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16:41<engla>can't you buy a faster sd card?
16:42<cinka>not as fast as USB2 sata, i guess
16:42<cinka>i get like, 0.2ms latency and 40MB/s read/write
16:42<retrospectacus>yes it's the card itself slowing down... both are limited to USB2 so it will probably be slow anyway
16:42<cinka>notsure about the write thou
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16:43<prahal3>sorry slightly OT . I only found open modelsphere to do conceptual data modeling via complete EA standards ... it is not included in debian still runs well on it. Is there a more appropriate channel to discusss Database modeling issues ?
16:43<cinka>disk utility needs a whiped hdd in order to do the write benchmark
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16:44<prahal3>I cannot find how to attach sub specializations to the specialization symbol :/
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16:45<prahal3>the project is GPLv3 and only has a small forum (though the software is really complete)
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16:46<retrospectacus>prahal3: their forum or irc if it exists, is the best place to ask. It's unlikely anyone here will know about that
16:46<retrospectacus>if you want it to be in debian check for or file an RFP bug
16:46<prahal3>I thought so ... I was more into seeking a clue as to which channel to look for (they do not have one of their own)
16:48<prahal3>indeed that would be great to have it (though that would not help me with the documentation lacking a howto define a specialization in the model :)
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17:37<ac_slater>Hey guys, is there a dev channel?
17:38<cinka>not sure, think not
17:38<cinka>u have questions :P ?
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17:38<ac_slater>Yea regarding debuild and how it created files (.changes, and .deb) usually 2 directories back.
17:38<ac_slater>I would LOVE to not do that. ie - redirect those file outputs
17:39<cinka>uhhh
17:39<ac_slater>created/creates/g
17:39<cinka>i think you can just extract it
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17:39<ac_slater>no no. Running the debuild to generate a package from source
17:40<ac_slater>Example I have a directory with code in my git tree. Running debuild in my directory puts those files in the root of my git tree.... which is undesirable.
17:40<cinka>im not so good with these things
17:40<ac_slater>;)
17:40<ac_slater>So, no dev channel?
17:40<cinka>well i program C and C++ and asm xD
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17:40<ac_slater>And you've never packaged anything for deb?
17:40<devil>ac_slater: sure there is a dev channel
17:41<cinka>naw
17:41<devil>but not for packaging help
17:41<ac_slater>devil, anywhere you know of for packaging help?
17:41<devil>with that xyou want to join #debian-mentors
17:41<ac_slater>devil, badass thanks man
17:41<cinka>i just codepile my codes and ./ execute
17:41<ompaul>but they might not like your question
17:41<devil>np
17:41<ac_slater>ompaul, oh?
17:42<ac_slater>ompaul, too noob, eh?
17:42<ompaul>they tend to teach people how to package
17:42<ompaul>you can ask, but don't be offended if they say "na"
17:42<ompaul>or "no"
17:42<ompaul>ac_slater: noob isn't in their vocabulary
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17:42<ac_slater>ompaul, alright thanks for the heads up. I'm used to socially-awkward people on IRC
17:43<ac_slater>ompaul, Really, that's a common term. ;)
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17:44<ompaul>ac_slater: I'll run it again with a -vvv, they may not like your question as it deviates from their goal, people packaging. If this is the case, the source is there for review. :-)
17:44<cinka>ok bye
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17:44<ac_slater>ompaul, you make them sound like cave dwellers haha.
17:44<ac_slater>you may be right however, no answer yet.
17:45<ompaul>ac_slater: if I have a goal, and you want to deviate from my goal, I'm not interested.
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18:56<simplew>i runned "debuild -us -uc" but i stopped the build, and then u rin again "debuild -us -uc" and the build now breaks, why this happens?
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19:26<mjrosenb>this may be the wrong channel for this, but I'm attempting to build a package wih debuild, and it is failing because it can't sign the package, I don't want to push this package to anyplace public, so is there a way to skip that step?
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19:31<retrospectacus>mjrosenb: pretty sure the manpage and google know all about that
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19:42<mjrosenb>retrospectacus: the man page only alluded to -us and -uc
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20:05<vrkalak>in my squeeze-backports install, I have the 3.2-bpo kernel ... is there are newer kernel in unstable?
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20:08<engla>vrkalak: it's 3.2.23 in unstable
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20:10<vrkalak>engla, thanks
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20:10<mjrosenb>ok, so now that I have a whole bunch of .deb files, is there a way to get apt to acknowledge them, or do I just need to dpkg -i each one of them?
20:11<dondelelcaro>mjrosenb: in general you shouldn't be installing random .deb files
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20:12<mjrosenb>dondelelcaro: right, well i built them myself, so I trust them a bit further than I can throw them
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20:14<abrotman>just a bit? :)
20:15<sney_>mjrosenb: it's just dpkg -i
20:15<dondelelcaro>mjrosenb: you can either dpkg -i them, or you can shove them into a local repository
20:15<dondelelcaro>mjrosenb: up to you
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21:51<equation>is there a way to mount a partition of a dd image of sdb for instance?
21:52<equation> /s/of/from
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22:13<har>hallo
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22:15<har>hallo
22:15<har>hallo
22:15<har>hallo
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22:15<har>hallo
22:15<gin>equation: it's similar to mount a device, what's the problem?
22:15<har>hallo
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22:16<equation>gin, got it figured out, thx though
22:17<sney_>-o loop is your friend
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22:25<rapking>hi
22:25<sney_>hi
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22:43<jesus>buenas noche en esta sala ayudan a resolver problemas
22:44<abrotman>!es
22:44<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
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23:51<libaio> hello,everyone,I want to delete the verison number of the package name:such as libaio-5.3.2 libaio-devel-5.3.2 to be libaio libaio-devel ,How can i make it thanks in advance..
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23:53<libaio> hello,everyone,I want to delete the verison number of the package name:such as libaio-5.3.2 libaio-devel-5.3.2 to be libaio libaio-devel ,How can i make it thanks in advance..
23:55<libaio>can some print something so that i know i am avaiable in this channel
23:55<libaio>can some body print something so that i know i am avaiable in this channel?
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