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---Logopened Fri Aug 17 00:00:29 2012
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01:05<vook>I'm having an issue with wpa_supplicant - I guess I haven't used it in a while. Basically if I just run it as I formerly did, it fails due to the fact that there is always an instance of /sbin/wpa_supplicant running. Even if I killall on wpa_supplicant, it immediately respawns. I haven't researched this too much, but so far if I rename /sbin/wpa_supplicant, then killall on wpa_supplicant, then launch the renamed wpa_supplicant as usual, it works. How should I
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01:10<vook>ya, I guess that's a lazy question.
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02:25<spike>how it works
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03:42<JPeterson>can someone check if this is a bug or intentional in some circumstance http://pastebin.com/ntj4U0qY? how do i include all necessary information? i.e. what's an example bash to list all all packages that has a depend or recommend for a particular package
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03:44<Apollo>!ubuntu
03:44<dpkg>Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>.
03:44<Apollo>JPeterson: this is the debian support channel, check the dpkg message for ubuntu information
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03:46<Garp>Hi.
03:47<Calinou>hi
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03:49<Garp>Question: trying to upgrade from squeeze to wheezy, got an error like "E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'phonon-backend-vlc'". Seems that I have to upgrade apt first. But "apt-get apt" says "370 to remove" which is quite a lot. I tried a few other stuff but no solution yet. Any help? Thanks.
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03:53<Apollo>!unstable
03:53<dpkg>Unstable is the status of a Debian release when packages can be added at any time, that can disrupt the integrity of the whole system! Ask me about <break>. If you have to ask whether you should use it or how, you shouldn't. http://www.debian.org/releases/unstable/ See also <testing>, <sid>, <sid faq>, <apt-listbugs>, <apt-listchanges>, <bts>.
03:53<Apollo>!testing
03:53<dpkg>Testing is a continuously updated release between <stable> and <unstable>, currently codenamed <wheezy>. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting and ask me about <testing faq> <squeeze->wheezy> <testing security> <moving target> <dda> <apt-listchanges> <apt-listbugs> and <bts>. You should have a sound knowledge of Debian packaging and be prepared for a bumpy ride at times. Don't use it on things that are critical or on servers.
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03:55<Garp>Apollo: you're demonstrating the reason why I didnt went here for hekp before. I had forgot, thanks for the reminder.
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03:56<bernat>Garp: how are you upgrading?
03:57<Garp>bernat: I'm trying to follow the doc here: http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading
03:59<Garp>bernat: but I just started an apt-get install command with apt and a few pkgs, that triggered a lot of dependencies being added, so it's now processing.
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04:00<Garp>It seems that apt has some dependency in a newer version of python, and a lot of stuff depends on puython
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04:00<bernat>you should do "apt-get dist-upgrade" and that should take care
04:00<Apollo>Garp: I was just pointing out some helpful links, I'm very sorry for trying to help
04:00<bernat>removal of packages is normal
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04:01<Garp>bernat: yes, but I was losiong gnome and kde in that list...
04:01<Apollo>Garp: do you have any unoficial sources added to your sources.list
04:01<Garp>bernat: the aptget dist-upgrade failed on an error due to the fact that apt itself was too old
04:02<Garp>Apollo: I commented everything outside of the bare minimal stuff as recommended
04:02<bernat>Garp: you should also uninstall non-official packages as they may interfer
04:02<Garp>bernat: that was the pouint: apt-get dist-upgrade would do it nicely, but apt had to be installed first and that couldnt be done nicely
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04:03<Garp>bernat: hum, right, there bmioght have been some. I think most of them are now removed
04:03<Garp>[3~
04:03<bernat>Garp: if you have an installation that differs too much from a squeeze you may have problems
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04:04<mark_>hi
04:04<Garp>bernat, appllo: thanks for the help. it's now doing a lot of thing hopefully ending up with a new apt version and a still functionnal system from which a dist-upgrade can be performed
04:04<bernat>Garp: ok
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04:05<Garp>(otherwithe, well: i have a backup from tonight and a CD to do a full reinstall...)
04:06<mark_>i have an xcfe problem, seems that any window i open , the minimize/close bar isnot visible , whenever a window is open i cant access the upper taskbar (programms , settings) and plus alt+tab is not working
04:06<mark_>i ran debian testing
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04:07<mark_>plus this is wierd
04:07<mark_>for example in iceweasel
04:07<bernat>mark_: this channel is for squeeze support, testing is supported in #debian-next
04:08<mark_>well
04:08<mark_>im will be on my way
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04:20<gaffer>Morning all. I want to boot a Debian live USB with the kernel parameter "hpsa.hpsa_allow_any=1". Can I do that from the standard Live USB stick or do I need to work out how to hack grub?
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04:43<Garp>some news: apt finaly got installed in the right version, got little re
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04:44<Garp>al problems, but a pkg that didnt wanted to install and crashed dpkg. Removed it, apt-get -f install, and apt got installed. With that version, dist-upgrade seems to work and is now processing.
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04:47<gaffer>Ah! If I press "Esc", I get a boot prompt. I can probably work out what to do from there...
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04:51<desktop>hello
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04:59<univac>hello desktop
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05:03<msi>hi, i ust installed scribus and the gui looks pretty odd. i know it uses qt, which is obviously not installed on my machnine. but well, what would i need to install? i just want scribus to look nice. that's all.
05:03<msi>i'm on squeeze
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05:06<bernat>if you have scribus installed then you'll have qt installed too since it will be a dependency
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05:06<msi>well, i don't think so. looks more like it is using just X at the moment.
05:07<msi>qt seems to be an option rather than a dependency.
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05:07<msi>it's probably like with openoffice. you don't automatically install openoffice.org-gtk.
05:07<movl>msi: of it uses Qt, Qt is installed
05:07<movl>dpkg -l
05:07<dpkg>Files in package movl-pr0n: /srv/movl-pr0n/movl.jpg
05:08<movl>lol
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05:08<msi>ok, so, it probably just a question of themes
05:09<themill>.o0( full marks for correct FHS use of /srv )
05:10<msi>well, it's pretty hard to tell if "qt" ist installed, because it is split up into a thousand packages. i have no idea, which of them is relevant.
05:10<movl>'dpkg -l | egrep -i qt | less'
05:10<msi>isn't that the same as "aptitude search qt"?
05:11<themill>you probably need to run qtconfig and set a GUI style
05:11<msi>a
05:11<msi>h
05:11<msi>ok
05:11<msi>that seems to be it.
05:11<msi>thank a lot.
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05:44<project2501a>happy birthday guys :)
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05:57<gaffer>system booted and installed!
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05:57<project2501a>engage!
05:57<project2501a>number one, you have the helm
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06:01<cuco>hi all, i am trying to install debian on an old laptop, and it is failing when configuring apt. it seems I cannot event ping the site, maybe IPv6 problems?
06:01<cuco>how do I overcoem this problem?
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06:07<lord_rob>tried installing debian with install cd images ? A complete system I mean
06:08<cuco>using the network install. no network problems in my home (this is another debian machine) and I had debina installed on that old machine.
06:11<lord_rob>maybe you should install debian using normal install cd (only cd1) check your connection and then upgrade your distro as you wish
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06:12<cuco>but the connection is working...
06:12<lord_rob>it seems I cannot event ping the site
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06:13<lord_rob>well more or less ;)
06:13<cuco>which site?
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06:14<lord_rob><cuco> hi all, i am trying to install debian on an old laptop, and it is failing when configuring apt. it seems I cannot event ping the site, maybe IPv6 problems?
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06:15<cuco>yes, but the site is online. from this machine (another debian on the same nat) I get updates (ping fail... funny...)
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06:29<sml>hey all. bit of a compatibility question. A friend wants a 1 port half height pci express for a supermicro server running debian. any ideas on a decent 1gb network card ?
06:30<sml>i had no idea so said i'd ask you guys here for him
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06:30<Apollo>most of the supermicro cards are fine
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06:33<sml>Apollo: the onboard one has been very flaky: Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82579V Gigabit Network Connection
06:34<Apollo>define flaky
06:34<sml>Apollo: Apparently it randomly drops packets
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06:35<Apollo>which kernel is your friend running?
06:36<sml>Actually it would randomly stop connecting to the network. switch would show it suddenly connect at 10mb.
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06:36<sml>will find out kernel version
06:36<cuco>nice. other sites give me the same problem... i will use a full CD of an older release and update
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06:37<lord_rob>when I apt-get install something it gives me useful information about what's broken on my system. Is it enough ?
06:37<sml>Apollo: 2.6.32
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06:42<Apollo>sml: which subversion, since there are a lot of 2.6.32 kernels
06:43<sml>11
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06:46<Apollo>well, to fix his initial bug, I suggest he updates to the latest kernel available for squeeze
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06:48<sml>Apollo: OK. thanks.
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06:48<yossarianuk>Happy Birthday Debian !
06:49<Apollo>as far as a network card goes: anything with an intel controller is a good idea
06:49<Apollo>they have great support for debian, and provide their own driver, if you were to find the one in the kernel to be insuficient
06:50<Apollo>regarding his current issue: http://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2011/10/msg00303.html
06:50<Apollo>although I believe the bug he refers to is the wrong number
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06:54<Apollo>http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=624794
06:54<Apollo>has all the information needed sml
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06:57<yossarianuk>Hi - It is possible to mirror just the updates repo of a debian distrubtion (i.e squeeze-updates) ? i.e not the non-updates packages ?
06:57<yossarianuk>I ask as I am trying to setup a mirror for use in spacewalk (debian client).
06:57<yossarianuk>Or if anyone knows a better application for pushing updates to 100's of server's similatiously to debian system (with a gui) let me know...
06:58<Apollo>chef or Puppet could do that job
06:59<ansgar>yossarianuk: debmirror can do that.
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07:08<yossarianuk>thanks for the responses
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07:10<yossarianuk>I looked at puppet - the free(community) version missing lots of features - http://puppetlabs.com/puppet/enterprise-vs-open-source/
07:10<yossarianuk>i.e no dashboard, etc
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07:14<Apollo>yossarianuk: they release the sources for their enterprise modules
07:15<Apollo>which means you can use the open-source puppet, and add the modules yourself
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07:15<Apollo>http://downloads.puppetlabs.com/enterprise/sources/2.5.3/sources/debian/squeeze/
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07:15<yossarianuk>Apollo thanks for that
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07:17<yossarianuk>spacewalk does look pretty amazing (for redhat systems) - with puppet can you also launch remote commands I take it ?
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07:23<pedebian>wheezy with kde 4.8... crash after crash
07:24<movl>#debian-next and some more details, please
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07:25<pedebian>movl: I don't know which details
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07:27<movl>eg what were you doing, what crashed, etc
07:27<movl>video hardware
07:27<movl>and so on...
07:28<yossarianuk>All I can say is KDE 4.9 is the best desktop I have ever used
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07:29<yossarianuk>The only reason i don;t run debian as a desktop is that the KDE packages are normally old - even in SID
07:29<bernat>!offtopic
07:29<dpkg>#debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day.
07:30<yossarianuk>ok got ya.
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07:51<pacifique>Hello, My Xchat network list is empty, any help please?
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07:55<movl>mv your xchat dir out of the way and restart the app
07:57<PaulePanter>Hi. Regarding a SSD. After correctly aligning the partitions <https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Solid_State_Drives> and wanting to use LUKS (no LVM) and Ext4, I just have to specify the `discard` options in the config files.
07:57<PaulePanter>No special options needed, right?
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08:10<devil>PaulePanter: discard is set in fstab
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08:12<PaulePanter>devil: Yeah. Also in `/etc/crypttab`.
08:13<PaulePanter>If I am not mistaken, I heard that TRIM support is not used anymore in current SSDs. Though I could not found more information about that.
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08:13<plugwash>sounds like BS to me
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08:16<devil>plugwash: sure TRIM is still used. they just expanded it to be used on raid also
08:16<devil>err, PaulePanter ^
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08:25<cuco>lord_rob: wrong cable. I used another cable for the network and now Iget an address.
08:26<lord_rob>so debian installs correctly now. great
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08:29<lord_rob>when I have network problems, I first ping my modem. If it doesn't pong it can be my crappy switch so I reset it. If it stills doesn't pong I reset the modem. If the modem pongs, I ping my DNS server, if it pongs, I try to ping google. If it doesn't pong I dig my DNS to see if isn't a DNS resolution problem
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08:31<lord_rob>if it's a dns problem, I change the resolution order in resolv.conf
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09:21<cortana>does "apt-get source libcap2:amd64" work for anyone (using unstable)
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09:21<cortana>for me it complains that it can't find a source package for libcap2:amd64
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09:22<cortana>however, 'apt-get source libc6:amd64' and so on with other packages works fine
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09:28<sml>cortana: didn't know you could even use that kind of syntax.
09:28<cortana>i am willing to accept that it isn't legitimate... but the fact that it works with some packages and not others is what's bugging me
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09:44<sml>cortana: have you read the man page ?
09:45<sml>also this may be a sid issue only in which case you'd be better of asking in #debian-next I beleive. I'll try it on my box in a second though just to see what it does (stable)
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09:47<sml>cortana: E: Unable to find a source package for libcap2:amd64
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09:48<cortana>libc6:amd64 also fails on stable as expected -- no multiarch
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09:56<gosam>isn't the source package the same for both architectures?
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10:12<cortana>yeah. i am stripping off the :architecture suffix in my script. i was just weirded out because sometimes it caused apt-get source to fail, but not always
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11:04<xorAxAx>hi, i was advised to use make deb-pkg to generate a kernel image but the resulting linux-image .deb is huge: 507MB. why is that?
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11:05<ManoftheSea>xorAxAx: check your .config, see if everything is yes.
11:05<xorAxAx>ManoftheSea: well, a lot in it is m
11:05<xorAxAx>but that shouldnt make it worse for deb-pkg compared to make-kpkg
11:05<xorAxAx>nor?
11:05<ManoftheSea>oh, make-kpkg gives you a reasonable size?
11:06<ManoftheSea>Well, dissect the package, and see what's got all the space.
11:06<xorAxAx>currently doing so :)
11:06<xorAxAx>/lib/modules/3.5.2/kernel/drivers is 1.2 GB
11:07<xorAxAx>it doesnt strip
11:07<xorAxAx>looks like a bug in 3.5's deb-pkg
11:08<xorAxAx> INSTALL_MOD_STRIP=1 is needed
11:09<ManoftheSea>you should get it into therapy. Stripping isn't a valid lifestyle.
11:09<ManoftheSea>kidding.
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11:22<sml>anyone here know why the iptables ruleset saving via /etc/init.d was removed in woody. i know there is iptables-persistent but just wondered if anyone knew WHY it was removed in the first place?
11:22<movl>woody? #.#
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11:22<sml>movl: yup. was removed some time ago :)
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11:24<movl>so you are running woody?
11:24<sml>movl: erm, heh, no :)
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11:48<rudi_s>sml: I don't know why it was removed, but I think there's a bug report about it. But it's simple to automatically enable the rules on boot, just put an iptables-apply script as "up" in /etc/network/interfaces, man interfaces for more information.
11:48<rudi_s>s/iptables-apply/iptables-restore/
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11:57<bob999>nobody?
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12:02<bob999>bye to all
12:02<retrospectacus>bob999: if you have a question just ask
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12:04<mattia>!list
12:04<dpkg>mattia: Debian è un sistema operativo composto di software libero non quella gratis. Vedi http://www.debian.org/intro/free.it.html per sapere di più.
12:04<mattia>!list
12:04<dpkg>mattia: Debian è un sistema operativo composto di software libero non quella gratis. Vedi http://www.debian.org/intro/free.it.html per sapere di più.
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12:05<gnugr>mattia:have you a debian problem?
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12:05<gnugr>mattia:do not play with the bot please
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12:06<gnugr>mattia:find something else to play
12:09<cinch>anyone here familiar with openldap in squeeze?
12:10<cinch>the wiki says i can view the config with 'ldapsearch -Y EXTERNAL -H ldapi:/// -b "cn=config"' but that returns no results
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12:11<cinch>i take that back, one needs to be root =)
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13:21<phillipsjk>I am trying to find the curses configuration utility for setting up dial-up connections with Debian Etch. 'dkpg-reconfigure ppp' does not ask any questions
13:25<sney_>oh man I used to know what that was
13:26<sney_>http://slackware.com/config/ppp.php turns out this is what I was remembering. but it's probably just a collection of scripts
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13:26<tale>phillipsjk: wvdial?
13:27<phillipsjk>I was just reading up on wvdial. I don't think I ever used it before.
13:28<phillipsjk>I think that last time I was using dial-up with Debian was debian woody.
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13:34<phillipsjk>Debian Etch is no longer on ftp.ca.debian.org (i got ppp off the netinstall CD)
13:34<tale>phillipsjk: You can get old versions of Debian for archive.
13:35<tale>phillipsjk: http://www.debian.org/distrib/archive
13:36*phillipsjk updates sources.list
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14:05<phillipsjk>hmm, vwdial found out my modem talks at 57600 baud. I had been using it a 19200.
14:06<sney_>why, because it said v.92 on it?
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14:07<phillipsjk>I forget the exact method I used to determine that. I may have been using test results from a different 14.4 modem.
14:07<abrotman>because it was made after 1997? :)
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14:28<DJSalkin>hi
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14:29<sney_>hi
14:29<phillipsjk>I added myself tot he 'sip' group but still can't run pppd
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14:31<phillipsjk>that would be 'dip'
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14:32<DJSalkin>i wanna build an arcaqde machine with my old ibook g3. it should run emulators and stuff at full speed (nes,snes,genesis) which linux distro should i choose (it must run on 500mhz powerpc processor)?
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14:32<tale>phillipsjk: I think the group is dialout.
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14:32<tale>phillipsjk: Check what is group owner of the device file.
14:33<phillipsjk>logging out then back in fixed it.
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14:33<tale>phillipsjk: or do newgroup dip, then you do not need to logout-in.
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14:44<phillipsjk>/sbin/route says my default route is still the router, not the ppp link
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14:57*phillipsjk now has two default routes :?
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14:58<amitz>i wonder about debian policy on the following. Wheezy is freezed, right? Rails 3, depends on ruby-json1.74. Yet atm ruby-json version 1.73. Is this mean that the whole rails3 will be dropped or there is still room for exception (to have json-ruby upgraded from 1.73 to 1.74)?
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14:59<amitz>I'm not asking for an official response, i'm just asking about the usual policy?
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15:01<scientes_>amitz, #debian-release
15:01<amitz>oh thanks
15:01<scientes_>amitz, the standard response is "its frozen"
15:01<scientes_>also #debian-ruby
15:01<scientes_>the main exceptions being security related
15:01<scientes_>but usually that is just that it is dropped
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15:33<scientes_>why so many rc bugs?
15:34<sney_>why so few?
15:34<sney_>but probably because multiarch
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16:08<thomaslee_>hey folks ... have been reading a bit about Debian's stance on non-free & I understand it's not considered part of Debian, but I'm surprised we don't see more commercial software in there. I realize there are probably a number of answers to this question, but why is that? Is it actively discouraged by DMs/DDs? Or is it simply that commercial licenses are typically too restrictive wrt redistribution?
16:08<Nemoder>the latter in most cases from what i've seen
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16:10<Nemoder>keep in mind that even if debian had the permission to distribute that freedom might not get passed on to users
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16:11<luke_>Hi everyone can somone please help me as i just installed debian 6.0.5 with the kernal 3.2 backports and when i go into google chrome i am able to play the video but am unable to hear it, but when i am in another app such as skype i hear it perfectly i can also hear music via VLC
16:11<thomaslee_>Really? That's interesting. Something that surprised me was that e.g. you could find nvidia-cg-dev in non-free, but not nvidia drivers. Or Dropbox integration for Nautilus, but not the main Dropbox package.
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16:12<thomaslee_>Nemoder: ah, so the right to distribute has to be transferable to end users?
16:13<ansgar>thomaslee_: Umm, there are nvidia drivers in non-free.
16:13<thomaslee_>ansgar: oh there are? maybe I missed them. Sorry!
16:14<ansgar>thomaslee_: nvidia-glx, libgl1-nvidia-glx, nvidia-kernel-dkms and some more.
16:14<thomaslee_>I was manually trawling through a Contents file. Should probably have verified with apt-cache :)
16:15<Nemoder>er actually user redistribution might not matter for non-free, i'm not sure on that one
16:16<thomaslee_>ah sure
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16:17<thomaslee_>Am I right in assuming proposals for non-free additions go through the standard ITP process? Maybe one for debian-mentors.
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16:19<ansgar>thomaslee_: Yes. Though it might be harder to find sponsors for non-free software as there are less people interested in it.
16:19<thomaslee_>sure, I can understand that
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16:23<joseph-soares>is there any basic configuration to create a new wireless network?
16:24<luke_>Anyone?
16:24<luke_>Hi everyone can somone please help me as i just installed debian 6.0.5 with the kernal 3.2 backports and when i go into google chrome i am able to play the video but am unable to hear it, but when i am in another app such as skype i hear it perfectly i can also hear music via VLC
16:24<sney_>luke_: what about iceweasel
16:25<luke_>I tried that, It has the same issue
16:25<sney_>joseph-soares: create a new network? do you mean treat your computer as an access point?
16:25<luke_>i have installed the official firefox, and still find the same issue
16:25<joseph-soares>sney, yes
16:25<sney_>!tell joseph-soares -about hostapd
16:26<sney_>luke_: is that with pulseaudio or alsa
16:26<joseph-soares>sney, hostapd is the functionality?
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16:26<luke_>Pulse audio
16:26<Cranvil>luke_: I had this problem some time ago, but don't know exactly how to fix it anymore. Check your audio settings for the correct audio routing
16:27<sney_>hostapd is the daemon used to host an ap (access point) on your computer.
16:27<luke_>I have checked it, everything seems to be correct?
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16:28<joseph-soares>sney, I created a new network, using gnome-network-manager, but other computers cannot see me
16:28<Cranvil>luke_: I don't have my linux host available at the moment, so I can't look there. Do you have pulseaudio-utils installed?
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16:28<joseph-soares>sney, do you think it's because I don't have this daemon?
16:28<sney_>probably. I don't think network-manager is doing what you think it's doing
16:29<luke_>Yes i do craigevil
16:29<luke_>Oops wrong person
16:29<luke_>Cranvil;
16:29<Cranvil>luke_: Wait a moment, just looking for some hints, I can give you.
16:30<luke_>Thanks :)
16:30<joseph-soares>sney, I've done it on Ubuntu 10.04 - I think it's the same version in Debian Squeeze. There I was using gnome-network-manager
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16:36<Cranvil>luke_: Try padevchooser or pavucontrol (both GUI apps, maybe installed). One of them shows you the active audio streams and you can control the routing of them. Perhaps, you can find your missing audio there.
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16:42<luke_>ok Cranvil, i have installed them both, no luck still and cant find any thing wrong :(
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16:44<Cranvil>luke_: Did you watch every tab in the pavucontrol window while playing any audio in one of those browsers you mentioned?
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16:44<Cranvil>luke_: If I recall right, it had something to do with the flash player plugin.
16:46<luke_>it sounds stupid but do you have teamviewer?
16:46<Cranvil>luke_: I'd need to install it. Would be no problem for me.
16:47<luke_>If you wouldent mind would you please?
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16:49<joseph-soares>sney, Since I'm from a linux group in my city I'd like to show to other how to do something in a easly way, not just using file script config and command line. This is the reason I want to learn how configure on Debian the same functionality I had on Ubuntu.... See: When I create my wireless network, any computer can see me around
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16:49<joseph-soares>using a gui tool
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16:52<sney_>joseph-soares: a LUG wants the easy point and click way to do stuff? uh
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16:52<sney_>well, that's outside my scope of knowledge, for an AP, anyway. maybe network-manager can do adhoc. I don't know
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16:54<nevyn>joseph-soares: install network manager then ensure your user account is in netdev
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16:57<thomaslee_>ansgar, Nemoder thanks heaps for your help, much appreciated :)
16:57<joseph-soares>nevyn, I have gnome-nettools, network-manager and network-manager-gnome installed. When I type groups I see netdev on list
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17:00<joseph-soares>sney, sorry, I didn't understand LUG, But yes, I we want easy point and click way to do stuff
17:00<joseph-soares>rs
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17:02<sney_>joseph-soares: "linux user group" ... usually geared towards a better understanding of the system and how it works
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17:05<joseph-soares>sney, Yes, because we are getting new people to use linux, and they. Not just for groups, but we have a project to show linux to normal users
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17:19<luke_>Awsome, At last i have sound thanks to Cranvil, Thanks a ton!
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17:21<Cranvil>sney_: fyi: luke_'s flash plugin was using alsa directly and not through pulse. A fix in asound.conf (or .asoundrc) made it work correctly.
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17:24<sney_>ah, the wonders of non-free
17:24<sney_>good to know
17:25<Cranvil>Already documented in the debian forums. But if you don't know for what to look it's hard to find.
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17:25<sney_>yeah, finding the right search term is usually the hardest part. and I hate troubleshooting sound
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17:26<Cranvil>I learned much about pulse this way. I like the concepts of it.
17:27<pawel>does anybody see my writing?
17:27<Cranvil>pawel: No.
17:27<Cranvil>pawel: scnr. :)
17:27<pawel>getting started
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17:28<pawel>have one question
17:28<eightyeight>i would like to sha1 packets as they arrive from tcpdump. EG: "tcpdump -ni eth0 | sha1sum -"
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17:28<eightyeight>how can i do this?
17:28<Ouro>do lenny apt repositories no longer exist?
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17:28<pawel>anybody help me about qiute stupid thing
17:28<pawel>?
17:29<retrospectacus>!tell Ouro about lenny sources.list
17:29<retrospectacus>!tell pawel about ask
17:29<Cranvil>pawel: Just ask right away.
17:29<vezult>Ouro: you can get lenny packages from the snapshot machine
17:29<vezult>http://snapshot.debian.org/
17:29<pawel>how to find chat with polish users of linux ( I use linux for 2 days need some support
17:29<pawel>)
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17:30<retrospectacus>!pl
17:30<dpkg>Na kanale #debian rozmawiamy po angielsku; jesli chcesz lub wolisz mowic po polsku, wejdz na kanal #debian-pl na irc.freenode.net (Polish speakers please go to #debian-pl on irc.freenode.net). pl is also <perl>.
17:30<Ouro>retrospectacus: ah great, thank you, just what i needed
17:30<retrospectacus>you're welcome
17:31<Ouro>one question though, why was lenny EOL since squeeze=stable and there is no oldstable now?
17:31<Ouro>or is there not going to be oldstable anymore
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17:32<retrospectacus>oldstable is supported (and in repos) for 1 year after the new stable is released
17:32<Ouro>ah i see
17:32<plugwash>oldstable is normally removed from the main mirrors and moved to archive.debian.org soon after it stops getting security updates
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17:34<pawel>dzieki bardzo dpkg ( szkoda ze jest taka moda ze z niku nie mozna zgadnac kto ci pomaga, to nastepna tendencyjna glupota) ale dzieki kimkolwiek jestes , or thank you indeed dpkg
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17:34<Ouro>well, thank you for the info, later
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17:36<eightyeight># tcpdump -ni eth0 -c 1 2>&1 | sha1sum
17:36<eightyeight>works
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17:39<pawel>jest tu jakis polak?
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17:40<sney_>pawel: this channel is english only, for polish do /server irc.freenode.net and then /join #debian-pl
17:41<pawel>no body there i say nothing bad
17:41<pawel>jest tu jakis polak czy nie ma bo mnie pewno zaraz jakis cwaniak wywali
17:41<sney_>you have to change irc server first
17:42<pawel>are you a bot sney ?
17:42<sney_>no
17:42<pawel>ok then
17:42<pawel>how do you know what i am writting in polish ?
17:42<pawel>i am first time in my lifetime on irc
17:43<weasel>this is not really a social channel. it is a technical support channel for debian.
17:43<sney_>weasel: I'm trying to help him find #debian-pl on freenode, seems to be some confusion with /server
17:45<pawel>no
17:45<pawel>all is ok
17:45<pawel>but the room is empty
17:45<pawel>people are sleeping already
17:45<retrospectacus>still, you may not talk Polish here, thanks.
17:45<pawel>but i am getting this culture of irc
17:46<pawel>so i am not
17:46<pawel>but wy?
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17:46<Apollo>pawel: you're on the wrong server
17:46<pawel>why cannot write polish?
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17:47<Apollo>I just checked, he is indeed in #debian-pl on this network
17:47<pawel>ok but why I am forrbien polish?
17:47<retrospectacus>because this channel has rules. There is also a rule, no chatting. Debian support problems and solutions
17:47<Apollo>pawel: because we dont speak it
17:47<pawel>a ok
17:47<pawel>this i know
17:47<pawel>you not speaking
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17:49<pawel>ok I am leaving you hopping in good mud you all, but some of the Your rules would never get sens of
17:49<pawel>bye :)
17:49<retrospectacus>:)
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17:50<pawel>są tu jacyś co doradzą żótodziobowi co od dwóch dni bawi sie lubuntu?
17:51<pawel>sorry
17:51<pawel>wrong room
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18:00<luke_>Ok im back with another issue :z
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18:02<luke_>Its stupid but i dont know if its just me, When i start skype i cant hear anything unless i go into the settings and redefine the audio settings every time i use it
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18:10<luke_>Any idea's ANYONE?
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18:15<thomaslee__>Not sure if this is the place to ask about it, but Skype might be automatically trying to mess with your volume. Should be configuration settings to disable its automatic fiddling from memory. I'm not near my Debian box, so can't tell you for sure sorry.
18:15<phillipsjk>I think Ekiga may do that on something based on debian I am using, but have not investigated it yet. I assume you mean all the mixer settings are muted.
18:16*phillipsjk ninja'd
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18:17<luke_>None of the settings are muted.
18:18<flipouk>helo
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18:19<themill>luke_: which release of debian is this?
18:20<luke_>6.0.5
18:20<luke_>and im on the 3.2 BP kernal
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18:20<themill>are you using pulseaudio?
18:20<luke_>Yes
18:21<themill>My experience is that when you set levels in pavucontrol it normally behaves itself, but I almost always need to exit skype and all pulse stuff and then restart skype before the mic will work. This seems to be somewhat more robust in wheezy.
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18:21<luke_>The mic runs fine. just i cant hear any skype sounds
18:21<luke_>i hear everything else
18:22<themill>ahh, yeah, that's what I meant.... sounds not mic
18:23<luke_>ive tried that :|
18:23<luke_>killing them and then starting again
18:23<luke_>No luck
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18:23<themill>now killing sounds like the wrong way of getting something to save its settings.
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18:23<themill>tbh, under squeeze, I've had more luck on machines that don't have pulse installed.
18:24<luke_>Everyone has told me to use pulse
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18:27<flipouk>java 7 with official Oracle ARM support: isntat good?
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18:27<sney_>most things with official oracle components are not good
18:28<wjtaylor>how do I auto complete urls (adding www and .com) w/o opening in new tab?
18:28<wjtaylor>in epiphany
18:28<Losowski>flipouk: I installed Java 7 U6 from Oracle yesterday...I'm ecstatic about JavaFX 2.2 support in Linux
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19:18<phoz>hey
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19:22<retrospectacus>hi phoz
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19:46<GreenHide>I installed this package Xfimage....
19:47-!-rsalveti [~rsalveti@186.214.92.102] has joined #debian
19:48<GreenHide>I then try to unstall it using sudo dpkg -r Xfimage
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19:48<devil>apt-get purge
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19:48<GreenHide>but I get dpkg: warning: ignoring request to remove xfimage which isn't installed
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19:48<GreenHide>whats gone wrong here
19:48<devil>GreenHide: how did you install it?
19:49<devil>it's not even in debian
19:49<GreenHide>apt-get Im sure
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19:50<devil>GreenHide: are you using stable?
19:50<GreenHide>devil, purge I will try no not using stable!
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19:50<devil>what are you using? help me
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19:51<GreenHide>sid
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19:51<devil>the package is not in sid
19:51<devil>so tell me: how did you install?
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19:53<devil>it's not in debian at all
19:53<GreenHide>Im not sure now!
19:54<devil>then I am not sure how to remove it
19:54<GreenHide>it was 3 weeks ago
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19:54<GreenHide>hehe
19:54<devil>did you compile it?
19:54<GreenHide>no compile
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19:54<GreenHide>ok I will see if I downloaded a deb file
19:55<GreenHide>by hand so to speak
19:55<devil>then dpkg would know of it
19:55<GreenHide>but Im sure I didnt
19:55<devil>what does dpkg -l | grep xfimage say?
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19:56<GreenHide>one mo...
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19:56<GreenHide>nothing!
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19:56<devil>then it was not installed through dpkg
19:57<GreenHide>ok I will go have a look and see what I did
19:58<GreenHide>thanks
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20:02<bst_>devil: probably xfimage (image viewer) from xfe package.
20:02<devil>bst_: i do not know the package at all, so you know more than me
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20:23<xbmc>hi all
20:24<xbmc>there is someone
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20:24<sney_>!ask
20:24<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
20:25<xbmc>oki so i have a problem with lirc and vfd telecommande
20:25-!-andres is now known as zz_andres
20:28<devil>xbmc: if you don't tell us, noone can guess yourv problem
20:28<xbmc>i have write oki so i have a problem with lirc and vfd telecommande
20:28<devil>and the problem is?
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20:30<xbmc>the telecomande dont
20:30<xbmc>it s impossible ton control computer with the telecommande because is not good driver
20:31<devil>you are not helpful. we need the exact problem. maybe a channel with your native language is easier
20:31<xbmc>i have the dh101 is a tower with telecomamnde
20:31<xbmc>i try to identify telecommande
20:31<devil>what is 'telecommande'
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20:32<xbmc>remote control sorry
20:32<xbmc>Bus 003 Device 002: ID 15c2:0038 SoundGraph Inc. GD01 MX VFD Display/IR Receiver
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20:32<devil>did you set up lirc correctly
20:33<xbmc>i think no
20:33<devil>ybmc should have howto on this
20:33<devil>xbmc even
20:34<xbmc>but i dont find good tutorial on the web
20:34<devil>http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=How-to:Setup_Lirc
20:34<devil>took me 3 seconds to find
20:35<xbmc>oki so you are so good
20:35<xbmc>because i dont find the page
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20:41<xbmc>thk devil i try
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20:44<xbmc>devil you are here ?
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20:45<devil>barely
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20:45<xbmc>traduction barely
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20:45<devil>not for long, it's late
20:45<xbmc>oki so i try
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20:46<xbmc>but i see root@Media:/etc/lirc# irecord --driver=imon --device=/dev/ttyS0 MyRemote bash: irecord: command not found
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20:47<devil>you probably have to substitute MyRemote
20:47<devil>but i have never used xmbc nor lirc
20:47<devil>so i would not know
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20:48<xbmc>oki
20:49<pepper>hello?
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20:49<pepper>is anybody here?
20:50<SynrG>no
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20:50<pepper>hey I've got a simple debian installation question:
20:50<pepper>I'm running squeeze, and I have testing and unstable repos added to my sources.list file
20:51<pepper>but I need to upgrade imagemagick, and the newest version listed in aptitude is not new enough
20:51<pepper>imagemagick has a lot of dependencies, so I'm sort of wary of installing it from source...
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20:51<pepper>is there an easy way to force it to upgrade?
20:51<sney_>if you mixed stable, testing, and unstable then you've already broken your system so you may as well go ahead
20:51<SynrG>first, mixing stable + testing/unstable is not a supported configuration
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20:52<SynrG>but what may have saved you is you say the newest version in aptitude is not "new enough" (presumably you were expecting a higher version from testing or unstable and it's not shown?)
20:52<SynrG>which may mean you have not yet done an aptitude update
20:53<SynrG>,versions imagemagick
20:53<judd>Package: imagemagick on i386 -- lenny-security: 7:6.3.7.9.dfsg2-1~lenny3; lenny: 7:6.3.7.9.dfsg2-1~lenny4; squeeze: 8:6.6.0.4-3+squeeze3; squeeze-security: 8:6.6.0.4-3+squeeze3; sid: 8:6.7.7.10-3; wheezy: 8:6.7.7.10-3
20:54<SynrG>since nobody has provided a backport for squeeze, i can only conclude: a) nobody cares and/or b) it's hard
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20:54<pepper>I'm not sure what backport is
20:54<pepper>but I'm running squeeze
20:54<SynrG>!backports
20:54<dpkg>A backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and <ABI> complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.debian.org/ . Ask me about <debian-backports> and <backport caveat>. See also <simple sid backport>.
20:55<pepper>and yeah I need to install the sid or wheezy versions
20:55<pepper>and I guess because there is no backport, aptitude is not listing this as an option...even though I have testing in the sources.list
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20:55<SynrG>no ...
20:55<SynrG>21:52 < SynrG> which may mean you have not yet done an aptitude update
20:55<pepper>I did do one though
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20:56<SynrG>then apt-cache show imagemagick should show multiple versions
20:56<SynrG>it is perhaps scrolling enough so that you missed it?
20:56-!-zz_andres is now known as andres
20:56<pepper>alright thanks, I'll try it again
20:56<pepper>you guys are awesome, thanks
20:56<SynrG>but in any case, this is not a supported thing, mixing stable and testing/unstable
20:57<SynrG>if you pull in imagemagick it will likely pull in all sorts of dependencies ...
20:57<scientes_>just download the source, and rebuild for stable
20:57<SynrG>and then you no longer have a stable system, but some half-upgraded to testing/unstable system
20:58<SynrG>scientes_: see 6 minutes ago:
20:58<SynrG>21:51 < pepper> imagemagick has a lot of dependencies, so I'm sort of wary of installing it from source...
20:58*scientes_ places palm on face
20:59<pepper>also many programs depend on imagemagick so I think my whole system would just go crazy
20:59<SynrG>i imagine quite a number of things it depends on must be newer than what's in stable
20:59<SynrG>which could be why nobody backported it
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20:59<sney_>,checkbackport imagemagick
21:00<SynrG>see b) above, 5 minutes ago :)
21:00<judd>Backporting package imagemagick in sid→squeeze/i386: all build-dependencies satisfied using squeeze, squeeze-backports, virtual.
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21:00<sney_>I guess nobody bothered.
21:00<SynrG>ah, hmm. nifty keen. did not know about judd's checkbackport
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21:01<sney_>pepper: so, remove testing from sources.list, and change sid to a deb-src instead of deb line, then follow the instructions for a simple backport
21:01<pepper>oh okay
21:01<pepper>should I just google for those instructions?
21:02<sney_>this will keep you from nuking your system with all sorts of unstable binary packages
21:02<sney_>!tell pepper about ssb
21:02<pepper>I've actually done that before it was why I switched to gentoo for a while
21:02<sney_>the dpkg bot sent you the short version, there's a longer version on the debian wiki somewhere.
21:02<pepper>ok THANK YOU
21:03<xispirito>!tell xispirito about ssb
21:03<sney_>!tell xispirito about msg the bot
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21:06<pepper>so that I don't make this mistake again in the future
21:06<pepper>my sources.list should only contain ONE of testing stable and unstable?
21:06<sney_>right
21:06<pepper>alright
21:07<sney_>there are some exceptions to this, but for more advanced users who are very familiar with how apt works
21:07<pepper>ok
21:07<pepper>it's upgrading now! woohoo!
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21:24<alexLikeRock>hi
21:25<alexLikeRock>what its better debian 32 or 64 bit's ?
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21:26<alexLikeRock>i need install for work with printter and corel doc's and pictures
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