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01:38<gpm>hi gang. my pci wifi card (uses the rt61pci driver) changes mac address every time i reboot. any clues on how i can make it stick to one address?
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01:47<onsy>hi
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02:02<gpm>any clues why my mac address changes on every reboot? it stays the same on windoze and i've scoured dmesg and syslog for clues.
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02:26<perlwizard>you can force it to use one mac address using interfaces file
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02:27<perlwizard>hwaddress ether aa:bb:cc:dd:ee:ff
02:27<perlwizard>like so
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02:33<gpm_>perlwizard: the problem is my device works fine
02:33<gpm_>but the mac address changes every reboot
02:33<gpm_>it should not change
02:33<gpm_>at all, iirc
02:34<gpm_>so my suspicion is that the system is rejecting the hardware-supplied mac and generating its own every time
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02:35<devil_>gpm_: you could fix that in an udev rule
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02:36<gpm_>devil_: which one assigns mac addresses? i found one that assigns interfaces
02:36<gpm_>like i was able to stop generating new wlan*s
02:36<gpm_>(it was up to like wlan13)
02:37<devil_>well, first you could try if adding : hwaddress ether <your mac> does the job. that would be way easier
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02:37<devil_>adding that to e/n/i
02:38<gpm_>it doesn't because every reboot a new mac is generated
02:39<gpm_>what i'm wondering is how does the system figure out what a device's mac address is?
02:40<devil_>gpm_: you can try in interfaces: pre-up /sbin/ifconfig eth0 hw ether <your mac>
02:41<gpm_>should i just use the most recently generated mac address?
02:41<gpm_>because i have a list of like 9
02:41<gpm_>that the system has created
02:41<gpm_>over the course of 9 reboots
02:42<devil_>gpm_: use the onethe device owns
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02:42<gpm_>i don't even know how to find that though
02:43<devil_>well, i guesas it does not really matter
02:43<devil_>guess
02:43<gpm_>i'm looking into ifconfig hw
02:43<gpm_>seems promising
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03:05<lusers>Hi. I don't understand this. I have nodm and xinit. Also, ~/.xinitrc with a line: exec /usr/bin/xbmc-standalone. nodm will launch and I don't see XBMC on my screen, just a signed-in terminal. However, if I run startx, XBMC launches just fine. What gives?
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03:06<weasel>lusers: you probably want a .xsession, not a .xinit
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03:06<lusers>weasel: Ah. I'll try that.
03:06<weasel>the former inits your xserver if you run startx, a job that is however done by *dm if you use that.
03:07<weasel>xsession sets up your session after that step
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03:07<lusers>weasel: We have a winner! Thank you. Much appreciated. :)
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03:32<dierot>Hello, what would be the best way to back-up a Debian PC?
03:33<dierot>I've a small HDD and it's full, can I, for example 'dd' it onto a bigger one?
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03:42<jpinx>dierot: rsync is possibly your friend here
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04:00<tale>dierot: What was wrong with Clonezilla?
04:01<dierot>tale: hi! just asking around still.
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04:03<tale>dierot: You can use Clonezilla to copy a partition to an image file, and then clone it to a bigger partition.
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04:04<stderr>Wouldn't it be easier to copy the content directly?
04:04<tale>dierot: Seems you have not stated what exactly you want to do. Maybe just copy all files from /home directory to a safe place, and then install a new Debian to a bigger hard disk. Then copy the /home files back.
04:04<dierot>tale: that would work? sound simple enough.
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04:05<dierot>tale: wouldn't i lose all my program data?
04:06<tale>dierot: Do you have program data stored outside /home?
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04:07<dierot>tale: i'm afraid so
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04:08<dierot>tale: i think i have to migrate the whole file system
04:08<tale>dierot: Maybe copy also those, and restore after new install. Or use Clonezilla: copy the hdd to image file, restore to a bigger hard disk.
04:08<stderr>dierot: If you're going to re-install, I would suggest putting /home on its own partition.
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04:09<dierot>tale: i've /home on it's own partition now.
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04:10<dierot>tsdesrr: sorry*
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04:11<dierot>i'll take a better look at clonezilla now, after taking the dog for a walk
04:11<stderr>In that case, I would start by installing debian on the big disk. Boot from that and mount the small disk. rsync stuff from home on the small disk to home on the big disk.
04:11<helmut_>hi
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04:13<dierot>stderr: ok, i'll look into rsync also -> now to take dog out
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04:52<jwr>hi noob can i install bpo file on debian wheezy?
04:53<devil>bpo?
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04:55<devil>are you on about packports?
04:55<devil>backports even?
04:55<jwr>no im not
04:59<jwr>the issue im having is my java only works with backports but in testing it crashes
05:00<devil>jwr: is th
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05:00<devil>is that open-jdk or oracle java?
05:00<jwr>open
05:00<jwr>openjdk-6-jre icedtea6-plugin
05:01<devil>you could try http://wiki.debian.org/JavaPackage (which although is the unfree version)
05:01<jwr>how do i uninstall openjdk-6-jre icedtea6-plugin
05:01<jwr> from terminal?
05:02<devil>i run sid and oben-jdk runs fine
05:02<devil>jwr: apt-get purge openjdk-6-jre icedtea6-plugin
05:02<devil>if that is the correct package name
05:02<jwr>ok cool thanks bud
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05:02<devil>jwr: btw.: for testing or sid there is #debian-next
05:03<jwr>can i just add backports to sourcelist? and try and install
05:04<jwr>not sure if im making sense
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05:07<jwr>i was looking @ this http://backports-master.debian.org/Instructions/
05:08<devil>afaik you can, but better get info from someone else. i never used backports (not needed on sid)
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05:08<jwr>what is sid? mind me asking
05:09<jwr>and i do appreciate your help!
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05:10<jwr>ok unstaible
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05:12<fird055>hello all
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05:13<fird055>what is software for backup system such as Remastersys but l use Wheezy, Rematestersys not available on Wheezy
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05:14<devil>fird055: remastersys is not for backups
05:15<devil>fird055: if you want to build a debian system, ask in #debian-live
05:15<devil>if you want backup, there is other tools
05:15<fird055>yep, l need software such as Remastersys, l use Wheezy
05:15<devil>fird055: remastersys is utter crap, sorry
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05:35<prem>hi all
05:35<prem>how to import a "mdb" file in Openoffice in debian
05:35<prem>i dont find any "ms access" option in "connect to existing database" option
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05:41<perlwizard>have you tried `lobase file.mdb` from console ?
05:41<perlwizard>or oobase, if you have open office and not libre office
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07:46<PRiiNCESSxSTEPH>Salùù
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08:18<BoozeWooz>hello :S i try to find /etc/apt/source.list but its not there/?? how
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08:33<TobiX>BoozeWooz: The file is called "sources.list". Does "apt-get update" work?
08:33<BoozeWooz>:o yes it worx naow
08:33<BoozeWooz>i changed it in synaptics ^^ added there the source
08:33<BoozeWooz>fenks all!
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08:35<toni>hello all
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08:35<BoozeWooz>hey
08:36<toni>i am looking for a book for unix basic one
08:36<toni>plz advise
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08:37<BoozeWooz>hm
08:37<BoozeWooz>not sure
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08:38<Cozminsky>http://tinyurl.com/8rjyjcj
08:38<BoozeWooz>huh
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08:39<Cozminsky>read the first review
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08:42<Cozminsky>Is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Unix_Programming_Environment any good? I've like Pike's other books
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08:48<dvorak>Hi there! I want to make a blank image of a given resolution (two variables, $width and $height) and color and I want it to display a text ($string). I have found a command that does what I want with a exception: echo $string | convert -antialias -background yellow -page 1024x70 text:- 1.jpg The problem is that instead of 1024x70 I want to have $widthx$height, but that doesn't seem to work. Can anybody please help me fix that?
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09:05<lucifer>Hello guys
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09:32<kursus>hi all
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09:33<kursus>I'm kind of having trouble installing debian
09:33<kursus>"eglibc/locales_2.13-35 failed the MD5 checksum"
09:33<kursus>same with testing and netinstall iso
09:34<kursus>md5 of the iso is correct
09:34<kursus>arch amd64
09:34<kursus>it's the same whether i use a mirror or not
09:35<kursus>I can't go with the stable installer as my hardware is not supported
09:35<kursus>any help ?
09:35<kursus>thanks
09:35<tale>kursus: So what installer are you using?
09:36<kursus>i tried both cd-iso testing and netinstall
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09:36<tale>kursus: Where did you download those?
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09:37<aaa>!list
09:37<dpkg>aaa: Debian è un sistema operativo composto di software libero non quella gratis. Vedi http://www.debian.org/intro/free.it.html per sapere di più.
09:37<kursus>from there http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/
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09:38<kursus>i've been installing debian numerous time and never had problem
09:40<kursus>i don't know if it's relevant but i'm using a usb stick
09:40<kursus>using "dd if=my.iso of=/dev/sdx bs=4M;sync"
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09:41<kursus>tried with 2 different sticks
09:41<kursus>i'm kind of lost
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09:42<gnugr>kursus:befor "dd" did you use "mkfs.vfat /dev/sdx"?
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09:44<kursus>gnugr: no, but there was already an iso on the stick before
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09:45<kursus>but never had problem before (with debian or any other distro)
09:46<kursus>would this command help ? Everything else is running OK in the installer
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09:51<kursus>any idea ?
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09:56<kursus>should I try #debian-next ?
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09:59<perlwizard>kursus maybe you're allocating too little space on partition
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10:00<perlwizard>and file can not copy completely
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10:00<kursus>thanks for answering but I have 20go on / and 1To on /home
10:01<kursus>I've read there's a way to install sid from netinstall but I did not find it
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10:02<perlwizard>install base system, then change sources
10:02<perlwizard>update, upgrade and you have sid
10:02<kursus>ok i'm gona try this
10:02<kursus>thx
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10:10<EmleyMoor>I'm trying to make a Multi-boot USB stick, but having problems... I've either got two faulty sticks (differently faulty) or there is something wrong with the instructions at http://andrwe.org/linux/multi-boot-stick - will try both sticks again from scratch and report what I find...
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10:13<EmleyMoor>On the first stick, when I do syslinux /dev/sdf I get Bad FAT entry 63488 at 13834
10:14<EmleyMoor>It has put ldlinux.sys on but also changed the label to "Debian Inst" - what it used to be before today
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10:15<id0x1>anybody suggests a webcam program?
10:16<EmleyMoor>id0x1: What exactly do you want to do with the webcam?
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10:16<engla>skype is neat
10:16<id0x1>EmleyMoor:just filming things...
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10:17<EmleyMoor>id0x1: I know cheese can take photos... and possibly record video
10:18<id0x1>EmleyMoor:its pretty laggy
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10:18<id0x1>EmleyMoor:when you record
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10:22<EmleyMoor>Hmmm... the syslinux step appears wrong
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10:23<kursus>perlwizard: ok it seems to work DE install is on
10:23<kursus>thanks very much
10:24<kursus>for the record I was trying to install in french language
10:24<kursus>maybe the locale is buggy in eglibc
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10:31<EmleyMoor>If I want to create a small bootstick (1GB size), is there anything other than UBCD, grml and the Debian installer worth putting on it?
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10:34<EmleyMoor>I'm just hoping there's room... if not it will have to be a 2GB anywap
10:34<EmleyMoor>anyway
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10:36<EmleyMoor>Hmmm... non-starter...
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10:37<EmleyMoor>Anything, other than the syslinux step, wrong with the instructions at http://andrwe.org/linux/multi-boot-stick ?
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10:37<Guest4600>identify ev3nture
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10:39<Ev3nturer>HI, I just installed a fresh copy of Debian squeeze, and I'm having problems utilizing my soundcard
10:40<EmleyMoor>Ev3nturer: Which card is it?
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10:40<Ev3nturer>soundblaster audigy se
10:40<Ev3nturer>I have no problem using the onboard sound however I would like to use the soundcard for abvious reasons
10:41<Monkey>can anyone please help me to create a limited access user account please.
10:41<EmleyMoor>Ev3nturer: Don't know that card - what problems are you having with it?
10:41<EmleyMoor>Monkey: How limited?
10:42<Ev3nturer>sound blaster audigy se... well no sound what so ever from it, it works fine in xp but not in debian
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10:43<Monkey><EmleyMoor> i need to create a user that should ask for the root password whenever the SUDO command is used. any help please.
10:43<EmleyMoor>Please use "EmleyMoor:" to direct to me - <EmleyMoor> looks like you're quoting me
10:44<EmleyMoor>However, in any case I'm not sure how to get that effect from sudo
10:44<Monkey>EmleyMoor: sorry
10:45<Monkey>EmleyMoor: anyway, atleast it should prompt for the user password at least.
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10:46<Monkey>EmleyMoor: i tried visudo but didn't understood how to use it.
10:46<EmleyMoor>Monkey: Indeed, that would be perfectly normal.
10:46<ansgar>Monkey: sudo has a targetpw flag. And I think you can set those for specific users.
10:46<EmleyMoor>You need to understand the sudoers file...
10:46<Ev3nturer>Can anyone help me with my soundcard problem please?
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10:47<Monkey>EmleyMoor: it would be very kind of you if you could explain it to me.
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10:49<Ev3nturer>problems with sound blaster audigy se, any help much appreciated
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10:53<Ev3nturer>Sound card seems not to be working under debian squeeze any takers?
10:53<EmleyMoor>Ev3nturer: Is it logged in dmesg at all?
10:54<Ev3nturer>I'm sorry I don't know what that is :S
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10:54<EmleyMoor>Ev3nturer: As root, type dmesg - it's a log of system messages running from the last boot, usually
10:54<Ev3nturer>I'm a newcomer to linux
10:54<Alam_Squeeze>try http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh
10:55<Ev3nturer>should i paste it in here?
10:55<Maulkin>!pastebin
10:55<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>.
10:55<EmleyMoor>Is there a way I can replace the MBR on a USB stick?
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10:58<EmleyMoor>Hmmm... getting there slowly...
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10:59<Ev3nturer>"alam_squeeze" I'm afraid upon downloading i cant locate the file to the link you posted
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11:00<Alam_Squeeze>....
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11:01<Ev3nturer>"emleymoor http://pastie.org/4597680
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11:01<Alam_Squeeze>wget http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh -O also-info.sh&&chmod +x alsa-info.sh&&./alsa-info.sh
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11:04<safinaskar>Ev3nturer: if you want to enable sound in qemu, just add "-soundhw all" option to qemu command line
11:04<Ev3nturer>how do I do that?
11:04<EmleyMoor>Hmmm... the Debian installer doesn't like being on this multiboot... is there one that does?
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11:05<safinaskar>EmleyMoor: yes, you can use any partition program to modify MBR on usb (gparted, cfdisk, etc). or you can replace MBR directly via "dd" program. also, i can send your script which deals with raw MBR-entries using dd
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11:06<Ev3nturer>"alam_squeeze" this is frustratin i have downloaded that file many times and cannot find it in the downloads folder, or through the search option :S
11:06<EmleyMoor>safinaskar: I found install-mbr good, actually
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11:07<safinaskar>Ev3nturer: how you use qemu? do you launch it from command line? or from some GUI (i. e., graphical) program?
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11:08<Ev3nturer>"safinskar" I don't know what qemu is, I'm afraid...
11:08<EmleyMoor>Is there a Debian installer that will work on a multiboot stick like the one I have just produced using instructions at andrwe.org/linux/multi-boot-stick ?
11:08<safinaskar>Ev3nturer: ooohhhh, sorry. it is my typo, my error :)
11:08<Ev3nturer>"safinaskar" not a problem :)
11:09<safinaskar>Ev3nturer: i though this is channel about qemu :)
11:09<EmleyMoor>No, this channel is about Debian
11:09<Ev3nturer>wrong place xD
11:10<safinaskar>EmleyMoor: yes. live.debian.org
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11:10<EmleyMoor>I was not looking to install Debian *on* the stick, merely kick off network installs using it
11:11<safinaskar>EmleyMoor: yes
11:11<safinaskar>EmleyMoor: yes, live debian is installer too
11:11<EmleyMoor>safinaskar: Hmmm... I'll look into this...
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11:13<Ev3nturer>"Alam_Squeeze" managed to get to the file with iceweasel instead of epiphany, I'm having trouble understanding the instructions.. I am a newbie
11:13<EmleyMoor>Not entirely clear, unless the iso will work, how to incorporate this into my stick
11:14<safinaskar>EmleyMoor: this is hybrid iso. you can "dd" it to usb
11:14<safinaskar>EmleyMoor: also you can create your own hybrid iso using debian "live-helper" tool
11:15<EmleyMoor>safinaskar: But that destroys the multiboot... it makes a "uniboot" stick. More than familiar with that technique but it's NOT what I want
11:15<Ev3nturer>anyone else help me with my soundcard problem?
11:15<safinaskar>EmleyMoor: so, you can "dd" and then create additional partitions
11:15<bill>Can Adobe Reader (Linux addition) be downloaded and used on Xubuntu without causing problems? I had it one time on Ubuntu, but began having problems, ultimately having to delete all I had and start over.
11:16<EmleyMoor>safinaskar: This is not an "individual partitions" thing
11:16<Maulkin>bill: ask Ubuntu.
11:16<Maulkin>!ubuntu
11:16<dpkg>Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>.
11:16<Ev3nturer>i can see my driver for the sound card "CA0106" in the volume mixer, but it isnt working
11:16<bill>thank you
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11:20<Ev3nturer>sound card, sound blaster audigy se not working, can anyone help?
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11:26<EmleyMoor>Where does the Debian installer expect to see the CD contentsL
11:26<EmleyMoor>?
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11:28<safinaskar>EmleyMoor: there is some install step called "cd detect"
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11:29<safinaskar>EmleyMoor: it tries all cd and usb devices at this step
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11:29<EmleyMoor>safinaskar: ... which, under this scenario, FAILS! I am looking to "circumvent" it
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11:33<EmleyMoor>The question, really, is "where, after detecting and mounting, does the CD's content get mounted to?"
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11:35<fayaz>EmleyMoor: feel free to ignore my response (I just logged in and got only your last message). but you can get that from the output of the plain 'mount' command
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11:36<EmleyMoor>fayaz: ... er, yes, if I could get to that point in the first place... anyway, about to try
11:36<|Anthony|>is there an up-to-date method of getting a multiseat system setup?
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11:36<|Anthony|>http://wiki.debian.org/Multi_Seat_Debian_HOWTO
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11:37<|Anthony|>that is from 2008
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11:37<|Anthony|>i feel like i've asked this in here before :/
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11:37<safinaskar>EmleyMoor: it mounts to /cdrom
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11:37<EmleyMoor>safinaskar: As I have just discovered...
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11:38<EmleyMoor>About to see if I can work around the problem with the multiboot
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11:38<|Anthony|>long story short... i was testing fedora cause it has native automatic multiseat out of the box. I quickly found out that i despise fedora.
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11:40<EmleyMoor>Hmmm... it's either thinking about the mount or hanging on it...
11:41<ev3nturer>I need help with getting my sound card to work properly
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11:44<EmleyMoor>Hmmm... mount has not returneh
11:44<EmleyMoor>returned
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11:45<toni>hello
11:45<toni>how to delete softwrw
11:46*EmleyMoor is wondering if a "hard disk" type image can be used on this multiboot...
11:46<toni>by software center
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11:49<EmleyMoor>man syslinux
11:49<EmleyMoor>Erk
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11:52<lltp>Hi all. I'm running Wheezy. I wanted to have your opinion on this: I set up a BTRFS partition on a luks encrypted volume on a SSD. I tried bonnie++ to benchmark my SSD. All the values were expected except the latency reaching tens of ms for both read and write. Is that something YOU would expect? Do you know if this is related to luks/BTRFS/my_ssd?
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12:03<|Anthony|>is there an up-to-date method of getting a multiseat system setup?
12:03<|Anthony|>http://wiki.debian.org/Multi_Seat_Debian_HOWTO
12:03<|Anthony|>that is from 2008
12:04<EmleyMoor>How do I boot (if I can) Debian installer HD media using syslinux?
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12:10<mikimiki>!list
12:10<dpkg>mikimiki: vedi http://packages.debian.org/
12:10<mikimiki>!search project x
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12:34<EmleyMoor>Wow - looks like I've got a workable installer on my multiboot stick now!
12:36<EmleyMoor>One stick, with everything I want on it!
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12:39<lacrosse1991>hello, is sendfile() http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/online/pages/man2/sendfile.2.html included in debian squeeze?
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12:40<lacrosse1991>oh wait found a man page, assuming it is then, in which case, is this enabled by default? or do i have to enable it?
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13:21<safinaskar>lacrosse1991: of course, it is enabled
13:22<safinaskar>lacrosse1991: manual says that "sendfile" present since linux 2.2. this is very old release, so "sendfile" available on every linux
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13:33<yudaoge>有没有中国人/
13:33<ansgar>!zh
13:33<dpkg>如果您想得到中文的帮助,请您移步本服务器上的#debian-zh频道,进入方式是在您现在输入文字的输入框中输入"/join #debian-zh" (不含引号),谢谢您的合作如果您想要得到中文的協助,請加入伺服器上的 #debian-zh (irc.oftc.net) 頻道,加入方法為在輸入框中輸入 "/server irc.oftc.net" 和 "/join #debian-zh" (不要加引號),謝謝您的合作!
13:33<yudaoge>anybdy
13:34<yudaoge>!zh
13:34<dpkg>如果您想得到中文的帮助,请您移步本服务器上的#debian-zh频道,进入方式是在您现在输入文字的输入框中输入"/join #debian-zh" (不含引号),谢谢您的合作如果您想要得到中文的協助,請加入伺服器上的 #debian-zh (irc.oftc.net) 頻道,加入方法為在輸入框中輸入 "/server irc.oftc.net" 和 "/join #debian-zh" (不要加引號),謝謝您的合作!
13:36<yudaoge>没人说话的?
13:37<retrospectacus>yudaoge: English only here.
13:37<yudaoge>oh no
13:38<yudaoge>zh nobody
13:38<retrospectacus>No. maybe on the other channel like the bot said twice.
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13:40<yudaoge>- - i can not fix my mbr
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13:40<retrospectacus>!tell yudaoge about fixmbr
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13:42<yudaoge>fixmbr by ubuntu?
13:43<retrospectacus>yes you can. The bot told you how.
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13:45<yudaoge>thanks~~~
13:46-!-ev3nturer [~mike1239@5e01aa49.bb.sky.com] has joined #debian
13:46<ev3nturer>hi I need help getting my webcam microphone to work, on debian squeeze, it's lifecam vx-1000
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13:50<thinkpad>hello
13:50<yudaoge>lenovo?
13:50<cesar>Hello !
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13:51<thinkpad>which is better for windows, mirc or xchat, i am trying to decide
13:51<cesar>I think xchat is better
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13:52<yudaoge>i just want to rebuilt my mbr to boot
13:52<yudaoge>who can help me?
13:53<retrospectacus>yudaoge: dpkg sent you instructions in a private message. If you are having trouble with them, please explain
13:54<ev3nturer>so nobody know how fix webcam mic in debian 6?
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13:54<user-X_>Hi. Where I should write simple variables in system? (Debian/Openbox)
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13:55<retrospectacus>user-X_: variables for what?
13:55<user-X_>example: bamboo_touch="Wacom Bamboo 16FG 4x5 Finger touch"
13:55<retrospectacus>what's that for?
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13:56<user-X_>xsetwacom set "$bamboo_touch" mode relative
13:56<user-X_>for tablet
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13:56<retrospectacus>put it in ~/.bashrc perhaps
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13:56<user-X_>retrospectacus: thx
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13:58<user-X_>retrospectacus: but this will work only in bash right ?
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13:58<retrospectacus>yes
13:59<retrospectacus>that's why I kept asking "what for" ... guessing you are running that xsetwa in a terminal, no?
14:00<ev3nturer>hi I need help getting my webcam microphone to work, on debian squeeze, it's lifecam vx-1000
14:00<retrospectacus>!tell ev3nturer about smart questions
14:01<XReaper>lol
14:01<user-X_>retrospectacus: I want to add this xset to menu optnion in Openbox
14:01<ev3nturer>wha?
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14:01<thinkpad>hello
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14:02<retrospectacus>thinkpad: yes, you said that... hello. Do you have a debian question?
14:03<ev3nturer>"retroscpectus" I tried google and nothing on there helped, I'm a newbie on linux and have no coding knowledge, which is why i seek help here
14:03<retrospectacus>user-X_: well you can make a small bash script with the variable assignment and the command, and add a menu thing that runs that
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14:06<retrospectacus>ev3nturer: you need to describe the issue in much more detail, explaining what you tried, what happened, what can you see in dmesg, any errors, etc. etc
14:07<kop>ev3nturer: (And perhaps more about the hardware. How it plugs in in particular.)
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14:08<dmitry>hi all. i have a prob.. ive installed properly google chrome but i dont see the icon...
14:09<dmitry>help me please
14:09<retrospectacus>dmitry: google chrome is not in Debian. try chromium
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14:09<dmitry>thanks man.
14:09<kop>dmitry: See also footnote 1 of http://wiki.debian.org/DebianSoftware Of course you're free to do as you like with your system....
14:10<dmitry>thank you
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14:12<ev3nturer>ok, the video seems to work in skype, although sometimes it freezes needs to be restarted (this doesnt happen in xp) the webcam is connected only through usb. I have selected "usb camera, usb audio (hw2,0) in skype audio settings, and had to select the usb camera in video settings to get video to work. however the mic does not work
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14:13<retrospectacus>you probably have to mess around in your sound control window and/or alsamixer
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14:13<ev3nturer>I did a lot of messing about from various forums, most of which i cannot remember now
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14:16<ev3nturer>what am I loocking in the dmesg report?
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14:17<retrospectacus>errors about the device
14:18<dmitry>ive installed google earth but i dont see the icon
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14:18<user-X_>dmitry: where U don't see ?
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14:19<dmitry>applications - internet - ...
14:19<user-X_>Gnome ?
14:19<dmitry>yes
14:20<user-X_>type chromium-browser in console
14:20<dmitry>is it often problems with gnome? kde is better?
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14:20<dmitry>in the terminal?
14:20<user-X_>yes
14:20<user-X_>browser working ?
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14:21<ev3nturer>I don't believe I see any errors, to do with the webcam, the usbaudio doesn't seem to show any errors
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14:21<thinkpad>yes
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14:22<dmitry>yes it works
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14:22<dmitry>user-X_: yes
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14:23<user-X_>dmitry: do You know where to "check" application in menu ? System > Preference... Menu... or kind of this
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14:23<ev3nturer>lsusb command shows "Bus 002 Device 003: ID 045e:00f7 Microsoft Corp. LifeCam VX-1000
14:23<ev3nturer>"
14:24<dmitry>not at all
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14:24<dmitry>but i dont see the icon in the list of Internet there...
14:24<user-X_>in terminal "update-menus"
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14:25<user-X_>dmitry: are You using Debian right ?
14:25<dmitry>yes
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14:26<dmitry>Ive just checked all
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14:28<yoof>there you go
14:28<yoof>man
14:28<user-X_>dmitry: /usr/share/doc/menu
14:29<user-X_>dmitry: /etc/menu
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14:30<user-X_>dmitry: /usr/share/doc/menu/html/ch1.html <- maybe start from here
14:30<dmitry>i have to write it in the terminal?
14:31<user-X_>no, read this... open with nautilus ?
14:31<dmitry>what is nautilus?
14:31<user-X_>$ nautilus /usr/share/doc/menu/html/ <- type in terminal
14:31<dmitry>OK
14:32<user-X_>nautilus - file browser
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14:33<dmitry>i have errors
14:33<dmitry>unable to open...
14:33<user-X_>then U haven't nautilus I think...
14:34<dmitry>no i dont have..
14:34<dmitry>Do i need to install that?
14:34<user-X_>chromium /usr/share/doc/menu/html/ch1.html
14:34<dmitry>ok
14:35<dmitry>bash: command not found
14:36<user-X_>chromium-browser /usr/share/doc/menu/html/ch1.html
14:36<user-X_>?
14:36<dmitry>the same
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14:36<user-X_>iceweasel /usr/share/doc/menu/html/ch1.html
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14:37<dmitry>i think i got it
14:37<dmitry>debian menu.... chapter 1
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14:38<user-X_>yes, read about this if You want to add shortcut for chromium in menu
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14:38<mike2028>hi I'm having a problem utilising my sound card (sound blaster audigy se) with the command cat /proc/asound/modules I can see 0 snd_intel8x0
14:38<mike2028> 1 snd_ca0106
14:38<mike2028> 2 snd_usb_aud, however before my last reboot it was 0 snd_ca0106 2 1 snd_intel8x0 snd_usb_aud it seems to change randomly
14:38<dmitry>no no i need to add google earth icon
14:38<dmitry>shortcut*
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14:38<mike2028>the snc_ca0106 represents my soundcard
14:39<mike2028>snd*
14:39<user-X_>dmitry: doesn't matter what app
14:39<dmitry>Ill try to read...
14:39<dmitry>thank you friend!
14:40<user-X_>dmitry: :) np
14:40<dmitry>do you have skype?
14:41<user-X_>dmitry: no
14:41<sakax>hello all
14:41<dmitry>OK
14:41<dmitry>hi
14:41<sakax>any package to make the font better in squeeze?
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14:42<user-X_>sakal: not really :/ U can use older package, but U must pining... or kind of this
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14:44<mike2028>can somebody help me modify my alsa-base.conf
14:44<user-X_>how to reload .config/openbox/environment ?
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14:57<fralle>my login runs a new login when i log in someone know how to disable this? :)
14:57<fralle>second login in logs in automatically
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15:01<ihernandez>hello. someone knows how to search for every package that provides mail-transport-agent ?
15:01<ansgar>aptitude search "?provides(foo)"
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15:01<ihernandez>thanks ansgar
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15:05<tosted>hi everybody...
15:06<tosted>i have some issues with samsung mpf driver install
15:06<tosted>cups cannot find correct ppd.
15:06<tosted>splix already installed and error while printing still popping up.
15:07<tosted>debian amd 6.0
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15:12<crashod>im trying to get my mp3 to play sound. sound is on, and under vm xp sp3 works fine. i tried diffrent programs still does not work. it loads and moves like it is playing but no sound.
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15:13<spatials>Have a poor internet connection - new to deb - should I get the dvd set - will need the broadcom driver?
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15:14<dondelelcaro>spatials: no real point in the entire DVD set unless you plan to use unusual things
15:14<dondelelcaro>spatials: assuming you have an unmetered dialup or similar, you can easily get the one or two things you want that the first DVD doesn't have
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15:16<spatials>well it is the broadcom stuff, if I have a poor net - want simple, basic, no kde or gnome, use SLIM and spectrwm
15:16<captagon>crashod: pull up your master and pcm of your sound-mixer?
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15:17<crashod>captagon: there maxed out
15:17<spatials>Was going to do Arch and don't really care for rolling release - frind said deb would be the way to go
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15:18*spatials checking if broadcom is on first dvd
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15:20<dondelelcaro>spatials: the drivers are there, but you'll need the firmware package which is available on some DVDs or also as a separate CD.
15:20<crashod>captagon: slacker radio is playing on here is background just fine. i was thinking maybe a codic issue like in windows but couple i got still dont have sound
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15:23<spatials>dondelelcaro, ya, it is called a "non-free" component dang - more hoops:)
15:23<captagon>crashod: apt-get update && apt-get install lame?
15:24<crashod>spatials: non-free not always that bad i had to use some for my system
15:24<spatials>dondelelcaro, coming from ymany years on rpm systems:(
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15:25<spatials>crashod, and with a poor internet connection, I'll have to swim with my eyes closed, yuk.:)
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15:28<crashod>captagon: done still no sound
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15:32<spatials>So, the question is there a Broadcom drivers on any of the install dvds?
15:32<user-X_>where I can paste code ?
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15:36<user-X_>http://www.wklej.eu/index.php?id=81a522f27d <- who can help?
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15:37<tosted>user-X_, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics.
15:37<ectospasm>user-X_: articulate your question first, what should we be looking for?
15:37<user-X_>tosted: thx
15:38<user-X_>check code ... MyPaint not working on user account, on root is fine
15:38<captagon>crashod: sound of .ogg-files OK?
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15:39<crashod>captagon dont have any ogg files
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15:42<crashod>capttagon: http://www.vorbis.com/music/Mists_of_Time-4T.ogg plays just fine.\
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15:48<captagon>crashod: apt-get install ffmpeg?
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15:52<crashod>captagon: done still no sound out of three driffren music players
15:52<ectospasm>crashod: if an ogg plays but other formats don't, you do have the codec libraries for those other formats, don't you?
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15:54<crashod>ectospasm: i just installed lame and now ffmpeg still no sound. but file loads and seems to play with out sound
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15:54<crashod>videos even play fine
15:55<ectospasm>that's strange
15:55<ectospasm>you don't have any crazy mixer sliders which are muted, which shouldn't be
15:55<ectospasm>?
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15:55<crashod>all are maxed out
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15:59<crashod>okay will not play throw head set on laptop but does throw hdmi cable
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16:09<crashod>fixed it thanks all
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16:11<crashod>i need pulse audio mixer and mix so i can play hdmi stuff
16:11<crashod>pluse aduio for hdmi, mixer for all other stuff
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16:32<Premature>welcome to debian
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16:42<zsolt_hun>hi there
16:42<zsolt_hun>i'd like to make initramfs image
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16:43<zsolt_hun>is it possible to make it o x64 than put it to an arm arch?
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17:36<jyc>after my screen is locked by xflock, videos playing start to stutter and won't stop until I restart them - I'm using ATI drivers. is there a way to diagnose this?
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17:44<grummund>Hi, how can i limit exim queue runners to limit system load and no. open files?
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17:45*grummund browsing spec.txt but i'm not quite sure what to look for.
17:45<jez9999>I'm running bind9 as the user 'bind'. what's the best way to make a logfile writable by the bind daemon? use groups, or have the file owned by 'bind'?
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17:46*xfire78xx sera :)
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17:46<grummund>jez9999: this is what i have: drwxrwsr-x 2 root bind 4096 2012-08-27 21:58 /var/log/bind
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17:48<jez9999>ah so the bind group.
17:48<jez9999>why have a whole group just for bind?
17:48<grummund>that is as per stock debian install
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17:49<Jb_boin>its better for security reasons, you can set some file with root as owner and bind as group that can only read them for example
17:49<Jb_boin>(same for directories)
17:49<Jb_boin>and for the logs, dont forget to verify that the logrotate script is also correctly set to your needs
17:50<jez9999>ok when i try and run bind and have my logfile pointing there, i get an error "permission denied"
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17:50<aquanta>I am new to debian, does anybody know how I can install wireless broadcom card (bcm4312 )in a simple way? the solution in forums are so complicated
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17:50<jez9999>ah it needed to be chmodded 755
17:50<jez9999>775 i mean
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17:52<grummund>jez9999: and setgid
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17:53<jez9999>you mean chown root:bind?
17:53<grummund>that too, but i meant mode drwxrwsr-x
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17:54<jez9999>huh? that's chmod
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17:54<grummund>yes
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17:56<ayaka>only when I check googlecode I will get "WARNING: gnome-keyring:: couldn't connect to: /run/user/ayaka/keyring-XOMNfV/pkcs11: No such file or directory" then it can't work
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17:56<jez9999>grummund: setgid is about temporarily running with group privileges isn't it?
17:57<ayaka>sorry it seems #649408
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17:57<grummund>jez9999: i think it means if subdirectories are created then they inherit permissions from the parent directory
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17:58<grummund>jez9999: anyway, that is how my /var/log/bind is.
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18:06<jkrueger>Any deb users run xombrero vim type web browser?
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18:15<jez9999>hmm
18:15<jez9999>so what does chmod 1755 do?
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18:15<jez9999>is it meaningless to set the "1" bit of the high order octal digit?
18:15<abrotman>!tell jez9999 about permissions
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18:17<jez9999>ahh it's the sticky bit
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18:25<grummund>How are exim queue runner processes launched? and what is the Right Way to set the exim options queue_only_load and queue_run_max ?
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18:43<ubuntu__>hi
18:44<ubuntu__>how is goıng on
18:44<ubuntu__>ım new here
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18:44<abrotman>ubuntu__: you probably want #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net
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18:46<abrotman>and then demand support?
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18:46<daemonkeeper>No, claiming not to use Debian but Ubuntu, then getting support.
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18:47<coldkey21>hello
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19:34<magyar>hi, i'm trying to install centos using aqemu on wheezy, but it ends up almost crashing the host os, my /tmp goes from 3% to 100% in three seconds (5GB)
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20:03<vook>I have the unpleasant task of recreating/assembing /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow files from NIS maps. Looking over /etc/shadow, I notice that the 6th field fom the right has some variation among users, but not much. Does anyone know what this field represents ?
20:03<vook>misteruser:$1$nkSDi809sdSOIUbod7:15278:0:99999:7:::
20:04<vook>I'd be the "15278" portion
20:04<vook>about half of my users have one number, then maybe a third have another, etc..
20:05<olasd>vook: looked at man 5 passwd and/or man 5 shadow? those pages describe the file format
20:05<vook>any/or, does anyone know of a good way to recreate an NIS master from a slave.
20:05<vook>olasd: ok, I'll check it out (I only tried 'man shadow')
20:05<olasd>the third field of shadow is the date of the last password change
20:06<olasd>(in days since epoch)
20:06<vook>ok, thanks
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20:18<varunpr97>hey people! i am a developer of a kde distribution and we will be moving to a debian base.. and we want to make a sizable contribution to debian by porting ubiquity to debian.. how hard will be the task?
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20:20<gotmynick>debian uses to use the debian-installer
20:21<gotmynick>you maybe interested in the debian-live project
20:21<abrotman>probably better tools
20:21<gotmynick>I don't know the ubiquity code-base very well, can't really answer properly
20:22<abrotman> http://wiki.debian.org/DebianPureBlends .. perhaps ?
20:22<varunpr97>actually ubiquity is the best method to bring newbies to debian..
20:22<abrotman>why is that?
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20:22<varunpr97>well its very very easy and the gui is nice too ^_^
20:23<varunpr97>but ubuntu patches a lot of packages fr ubiquity to be supported..
20:23<abrotman>okay .. but we have plenty of nice GUIs already
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20:23<abrotman>oh, misread
20:23<abrotman>varunpr97: we have a GUI installer already
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20:24<varunpr97>oh.. ill have a look at it.. i amnt much experienced with debian.. more of an arch guy..
20:25<varunpr97>do you know of anyone who can help us port it? ubiquity is a killer app of ubuntu, its d reason why ubuntu is chosen over other distros in a corporate environment..
20:28<gotmynick>Feel free to ask me (ColinWatson) about specific changes <-- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installer/Development
20:28<gotmynick>he has good knowledge of debian, so maybe he is the person you're looking for
20:28<abrotman>huh ?
20:29<abrotman>that was confusing
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20:31<gotmynick>varunpr97, most (serious) corporate environments I know use preseed (works the same on debian-installer than ubuntu)
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20:32<varunpr97>gotmynick: okay.. thanks... by corporate i meant schools and stuff... i have seen contracts being given based on how good d installer was.. abrotman: well it has stuff like auto partitioning.. we had a lot of phone calls n stuff just because ppl didnt understand partitining..
20:33<abrotman>debian has auto partitioning
20:34<abrotman>varunpr97: i'd suggest you spend some time with the debian installer before you claim it's missing these features
20:34<gotmynick>someone that choose a distro (for long term) based on the installation step, may have some issues in the future
20:35<varunpr97>i havent used the gui install so i dnt have much clue about the debian installer but ill have a look soon
20:36<varunpr97>gotmynick: abrotman: well we are targetting non linux users..
20:36<abrotman>varunpr97: you're ignoring what i say
20:36<varunpr97>and ubiquity arguably is the most easy to use installer..
20:36<abrotman>i disagree
20:36<varunpr97>and debian too will benefit if its ported..
20:37<gotmynick>why ?
20:37<abrotman>varunpr97: please read the installation manual, try the installer, then come back
20:38<varunpr97>-_- okay.. thanks for your time..
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20:40<gotmynick>also take a look at the pressed docs, for example: do you want to skip the package selection step (like ubuntu)? then use preseed files (like ubuntu)
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20:45<varunpr97>okay thanks fr your suggestions.. yes we want the installer to be as automated as ubuntua s possible..
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20:47<abrotman>...
20:47<abrotman>varunpr97: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/
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20:48<beginner>Hello I want to install a library for Python in debian, and there's a list of options here http://code.google.com/p/python-tesseract/downloads/list
20:48<beginner>I checked using command 'uname -m' about processor, and got a reply 'i686'
20:48<beginner>could you please direct me to the right package for me?
20:48<abrotman>beginner: what is 'uname -r' ?
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20:49<pharotek>what's the safest way to update roundcube to version 0.8 from 0.7 if i originally installed 0.7 from the repo, but said repo doesn't have the 0.8 version?
20:49<beginner>I took it from an example on google..
20:49<abrotman>!tell pharotek about uupdate
20:49<abrotman>beginner: what does uname -r say?
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20:49<abrotman>actally
20:49<abrotman>beginner: what does 'dpkg --print-architecture' print also
20:50<beginner>2.6.32-042stab059.7
20:50<beginner>i386
20:51<gpm>hi all. my wireless card (rt61pci driver) is getting a different mac address on every reboot, any way i can make one stick?
20:51<abrotman>beginner: so there you go, you wan tthe i386 versoin toward the bottom
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20:51<gpm>it works fine, just different mac address every time
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20:52<beginner>so i just install it like any other deb package? (this is a python lib)
20:52<pharotek>abrotman, thanks for the quick response. with this method for uupdate work if i'm getting roundcube from the dev's website opposed to debian approved repo?
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20:52<RedLance>Greetings all!
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20:53<abrotman>pharotek: no idea .. you just get to try :)
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20:56<RedLance>So, I've read that you can make a FreeNAS box out of an old Pentium II PC. How well will such a setup handle an above board SATA controller? I'm not really worried about bandwidth, as I'm limited by my 768k upload speed on my DSL.
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21:00<bones_was_here>well freenas is not debian, but i would commment that pentium 2 PC's draw about 100x too much power to make sense doing anything with these days
21:00<abrotman>but if he already has the box ...
21:01<bones_was_here>he'll still spend more powering it than it would cost to buy an op shop laptop with 10x the specs and 10W power draw
21:02<Jb_boin>well, you can find pentium4 and such hardware for free nowadays (and with sata ports on the MB), using a p2 is possible but wouldnt be optimal in many ways
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21:03<RedLance>Yeah, I thought about the power draw. I wanted to get a DLink DNS-323, but can't afford it and I already have the PII and the SATA card.
21:03<bones_was_here>hell, a ras pi is faster and runs on about 1W, and you can buy a new one every year for less than the cost of the pentium's power bill
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21:06<abrotman>he can start with his PII, then move to something else later
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21:15<gpm>:(
21:15<gpm>am i doomed to have a different mac address for my wifi card every reboot? it is a cruel fate.
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21:18<abrotman>gpm: you can use a wildcard in your udev rule
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21:19<gpm>that will auto-assign a mac address of my choosing, basically?
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21:19<l0000>t
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21:19<abrotman>gpm: aren't the MAC addresses similar?
21:20<gpm>sort of....
21:20<gpm>i'll do a pastebin
21:20<gpm>of the ones i've had
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21:22<gpm>http://paste.lisp.org/display/131250
21:22<gpm>some similarities
21:23<abrotman>that's irritating
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21:24<gpm>very!
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21:25<gpm>and of course googling i have to sift through thousands of results pertaining to "how can i spoof a mac address"
21:25<abrotman>that's easier
21:26<abrotman>http://www.youritronics.com/how-to-set-the-mac-address-from-etcnetworkinterfaces-in-debian/
21:26<gpm>yeah but i kinda want to use network-manager
21:26<gpm>i guess i could do it in managed mode
21:26<gpm>i'm more curious why this is happening than anything else
21:27<abrotman>seems like a driver thing
21:27<abrotman>what's your kernel ?
21:27<gpm>3.2.0-3-amd64 (debian stock on wheezy)
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21:27<abrotman>newer firmware needed ?
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21:30<gpm>doubtful, looks like last update was in 2010
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21:31<gpm>i'm sure debian's firmware-ralink package has that covered
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21:36<xorxos>hi, question: I install debian wheezy 32 bits in a 64 bits computer... is there a problem or i can leave it like that
21:36<abrotman>it's generally fine
21:37<abrotman>if your /home/ is on a separate partition, you can swtich back and forth rather painlessly
21:38<xorxos>but in pérformance? is the same
21:38<bones_was_here>if you have less than about 4GB of memory (including graphics) its fine
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21:39<xorxos>I have 8GB of ram
21:39<xorxos>and 2 GB of graphics
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21:39<bones_was_here>well you could use the hugemem 32bit kernel to support that, but you're gonna wanna use a fully 64bit system for best performance
21:40<bones_was_here>or at least a 64bit kernel and graphics driver
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21:40<xorxos>is there an easy way to do that?
21:40<Jb_boin>install bigmem kernel (or pae if you are on wheezy)
21:42<xorxos>i use 'aptitude install pae' ??
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21:43<xorxos>done it!
21:43<bones_was_here>just download a 64bit debian installer...
21:44<xorxos>a net installer?
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21:47<bones_was_here>well the easiest would be to do what you did already, except using the 64bit version of it
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21:48<bones_was_here>if that's the netinstall iso, then yes
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21:49<xorxos>OK... so i have to format...again...
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21:51<bones_was_here>no you don't have to format
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21:58<RedLance>Ok, now a question about rsync. My brother will be hosting my remote backup server, but has requested that I only use his bandwidth while he's at work. Can rsync be schedualed like that, and stop and start transfering?
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22:04<jpinx>RedLance: use a cron job?
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22:05<RedLance>Yeah, I figured I would, but what if the time restrictions shut it down during a backup?
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22:07<gpm>ughhhhhhh
22:07<gpm>random mac addresses why!?
22:09<stderr>RedLance: Then rsync will continue next time you run it.
22:09<RedLance>Ok, good. Thanks guys
22:09<RedLance>Or gals
22:09<stderr>or bots...
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22:11<RedLance>Them too
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22:19<gpm>ok, the device is also given a different uuid every time.
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22:34<mashk>Hi
22:34<mashk>freenode server is rejecting connection from me
22:34<mashk>why is that?
22:34<mashk>too large ping?
22:35<abrotman>the whole server?
22:35<abrotman>or just a single channel?
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22:58<mashk>abrotman, whole server
22:58<mashk>abrotman, it worked yesterday, but later I see that it drops my connection
22:59<abrotman>have you looked on the website for a contact email address?
22:59<abrotman>this isn't a freenode support channel
22:59<mashk>nope
23:00<abrotman>good luck
23:00<mashk>why you're asking then if server or whole channale if its not support channel?
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23:00<abrotman>this isn't a freenode support channel, contact them via email
23:00<abrotman>or try their webchat and ask #freenode
23:00<abrotman>good luck!
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23:07<qboster>hi all. I have multi sound card, one is integrate sound card, the other is usb sound card, how can I configure the usb sound card as default sound card ???
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23:49<lacrosse1991>@safinaskar thanks for the info, was not sure at first, currently in the process of revamping my apache installation
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