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#debian IRC Logs for 2012-09-10

---Logopened Mon Sep 10 00:00:17 2012
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00:30<ninja>flash player help
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00:30<leahea>what is the best way to make a persistent live usb?
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00:33<ninja>flash-nonfree crashes all browsers ,mozilla, epiphany, google-chrome etc..
00:33<sney>ninja: purge it and reinstall
00:34<sney>leahea: probably just install to a usb volume
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00:35<ninja>sney: never purge before, how please
00:36<sney>ninja: aptitude purge flashplugin-nonfree. it's like remove but it cleans out everything. and run apt-get clean before installing it again.
00:36<ninja>thanks
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01:01<leahea>sney: i am really looking to utilize the speed of the aufs live cd file system. I have seen a lot of varying info on making usb installs persistent thoughj
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01:02<leahea>i would actually like to dd a custom live image to my hard drive and then have it be persistent
01:02<leahea>im just using the usb, to get a hang of what i am doing first
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01:03<ninja>sney:flashplayer still does the same crashing, after purge and clean and reinstall
01:03<leahea>i have even read that a debian live cd will automatically mount a correctly labeled partition? live-rw label?
01:04<leahea>and to pass the argumant 'live persistent" to the boot prompt
01:05<sney>leahea: I think #debian-live would have better answers
01:05<leahea>hmm, ok thanks sney !
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02:32<owen>Hi all. Have an issue after logging into Gnome 3. Desktop only displays the background image. No icons, no toolbars.
02:32<owen>Can get into Gnome classic fine
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02:33<owen>Have tried reinstalling Gnome
02:33<owen>updated apt-get
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03:52<smart>hi all!
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04:35<CQ>is it worth migrating partitions from ext3 to ext4?
04:36<perlwizard>if it works don't fix it
04:36<CQ>ok, fine by me. How about a new system partition, ext3 or ext4?
04:37<perlwizard>xfs
04:37<devil>tsss
04:37<devil>ext4
04:37<rjsalts>nilfs2
04:37<devil>noone wants xfs as system partition :)
04:38<rjsalts>I use xfs for my system partitions
04:38<perlwizard>I use xfs for everything and it's mother
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04:39<devil>there is definitely too much 'info' on filesystems and their merrits on the internet
04:40<perlwizard> < devil> noone wants xfs as system partition :) <- care to elaborate
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04:40<devil>perlwizard: not now, i got a hard case of distro install support somehwere else
04:41<CQ>devil: that's why I'm asking... you get about as many opinions as there are FS around... this article moved me away from XFS http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=1169535
04:41<rjsalts>perlwizard: he might be referring to grub (1 not 2) not supporting xfs for a while
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04:45<rjsalts>CQ: and you didn't follow the link to the benchmarks on phoronix?
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04:53<CQ>rjsalts: ext4 looks close to or better than xfs in quite a few of the tests, their summary is "For what it's worth though, EXT4 was ahead in the majority of the tests. " ... it doesn't look that much better, but I think I'll go with it.
04:55<perlwizard>CQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FegjLbCnoBw
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04:56<devil>CQ: ext{3,4} is a safe bet.
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04:57<CQ>perlwizard: is there a 4 minte version of that somewhere? ;)
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04:57<CQ>s/minte/minute
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04:57<perlwizard>I find that video very much worth watching
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04:59<jm_>judt take his comments about ext# too seriously
04:59<jm_>+ don't
04:59<CQ>perlwizard: I've got some time, I'll watch it, thanks for the link
05:00<CQ>...but probably go for the ext4 safe bet as this is for a home server with no big requirements
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05:03<perlwizard>sure
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05:33<cyril>were you talking about an interesting short video about ext{3,4}? Can you copy the link again please?
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05:36<CQ> CQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FegjLbCnoBw is a 50 minute xfs talk... if theres a short ext talk I'd watch it too
05:37<CQ>what's the best way to transfer a running system to another disk? rsync and then rsync again and then reboot? or is that too optimistic? ; )
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05:38<CQ>or just be safe and boot off a USB drive?
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05:39<gitauwairimu>Hi
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05:43<jm_>cq: why double rsync? i use cp -a or rsync, doesn't really matter
05:43<jm_>ahh the point is in "running system" - i do it in offline mode obviously
05:43<CQ>jm while the system is running : ) I'm wondering whether to be adventurous or not...
05:44<jm_>CQ: yeah most stuff will be OK, but I rather do it properly to avoid silly issues
05:44<deavid>hi, i'm trying to configure a ticket printer in a Debian Wheezy, the printer only has USB interface. When i connect the printer, dmesg shows the printer is recognized, but no driver reclaims the device. Nothing happens inside /dev/*
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05:44<CQ>jm_ I was thinking of doing it in init1
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05:44<deavid>i tried the same in Ubuntu, and /dev/usb/lp0 is created
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05:45<deavid>so maybe a package is missing in my Debian, but i don't know which
05:45<deavid>they're both running kernel 3.2.0
05:45<jm_>CQ: that would be mostly OK I guess
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05:47<CQ>well, I'm off to try... later
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06:11<deavid>ok, found. usblpr is blacklisted, that was the issue...
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06:18<PaulePanter>Hi. I have build a package, which creates a lot of *deb files. I want to install all of them but the one containing `-dev`. Could you give me a regex accomplishing this, please?
06:18<tmroland>hello
06:18<tmroland>how do i install skype on debian sid amd64?
06:18<tmroland>tried following instructions on wiki and several other pages, it isnt working
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06:19<tmroland>i get dependencies problems etc
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06:20<bapa>PaulePanter: Better yet, why don't you learn regex yourself?
06:21<PaulePanter>bapa: Because I would rather spent my time fixing this bug in evolution-data-server.
06:22<ectospasm>PaulePanter: a quick and dirty way: move all the -dev.debs into a different directory, and then dpkg -i ./*.deb
06:22<PaulePanter>ectospasm: Ha. Thank you. I will try that.
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06:22<jm_>PaulePanter: depends on your shell, but in zsh you can use x~y syntax
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06:23<PaulePanter>jm_: Currently I am using bash.
06:24<PaulePanter>jm_: Thanks though. Trying zsh is still on my todo list. ;-)
06:25<bapa>PaulePanter: Might as well put ``fish'' there too. It's a pretty decent shell also.
06:25<PaulePanter>Will do.
06:25<PaulePanter>Thanks everyone.
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06:30<jm_>I suppose it's also doable with aptitude if using a repository
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06:34<tmroland>how do i install skype on sid amd64?
06:36<bernat>tmroland: you can use the .tar.gz in the skype site
06:36<tmroland>bernat : dynamic or static u recommend?
06:36<bernat>tmroland: I don't recommend the amd64 package
06:37<bernat>tmroland: you can try both, not sure which one will work better
06:37<tmroland>bernat
06:37<tmroland>so i should get 32 bit skype?
06:37<bernat>tmroland: skype is only 32bits, there's no real 32bits binary
06:38<bernat>tmroland: sorry, I meant, there's no real 64bits binary
06:38<tmroland>yea
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06:42<tmroland>bernat
06:42<tmroland>i have big problems running the 32 bit as well, unment and uninstallable dependencies
06:42<tmroland>ia32-libs-gtk : Depends: ia32-libs-i386 Depends: ia32-libs-gtk-i386 but it is not installable
06:42<tmroland>E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages
06:43<tmroland>i followed instructions on debian wiki and this is what i got
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06:44<bernat>tmroland: I told I wouldn't install the adm64 deb package
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06:44<bernat>tmroland: sid is multi-arch and the skype deb packages are for squeeze
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06:46<tmroland>bernat
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06:47<tmroland>ok i got skype static archive and unpacked it, now when trying to run it i get error while loading shared libraries: libgobject-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
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06:47<bernat>tmroland: you should ask in #debian-next, knowing that your issue is about multi-arch and installing a foreign app
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06:47<bernat>tmroland: we rather continue there
06:47<bernat>tmroland: this is the channel for squeeze
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06:48<tmroland>ok im there
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08:02<aluno>oi
08:02<aluno>boa tarde
08:02<aluno>hy
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08:04<msi>hi there. i'm trying to set another screen resolution for my monitor, because things look really tiny right now.
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08:05<msi>i know that usually, "you don't need to set these thing because X automatically detects them".
08:05<msi>well, X does seem to have some intelligence problem.
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08:06<msi>is there any howto on how to create a reasonable xorg.conf file?
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08:09<jm_>!xorg.conf
08:09<dpkg>From Lenny onwards, xorg mostly configures itself. Resolution is set by your monitor/graphics card (unless they're broken) or by your desktop environment or <xrandr>. From Squeeze, input hotplugging saves duplicating settings and restarting X after changes. The /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is usually no longer needed and is often blank. Manual configuration is still possible, see <xorg config squeeze>.
08:09<babilen>msi: First of all: Check "xrandr -q" to see if the resolution you want is listed. You might be able to configure this within your desktop environment (if you use that) so that you don't need to configure Xorg manually. If it turns out that you have to hardcode certain resolutions or (ze horror!) modelines for Xorg, I would strongly suggest to do so in a single file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/
08:09<babilen>msi: See <xorg.conf.d> for information on that approach. (/msg dpkg xorg.conf.d)
08:10<msi>ok thx
08:12<babilen>msi: You might also want to paste relevant information such as your /var/log/Xorg.0.log or the aforementioned xrandr output to http://paste.debian.net . Please also try to adjust the resolution to the one you want with xrandr or tools such as arandr (if you find xrandr cumbersome to use) and report your findings.
08:13<msi>resolution is listed.
08:13<msi>i hotplugged the monitor yesterday and everything was fine.
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08:14<msi>but when i booted today, it X choose the highest available resolution.
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08:15<babilen>Well, the only error you described so far is "things look really tiny right now" -- It would also help to actually state your problem more explicitly. (e.g. "I would expect the monitor to use FOOxBAR resolution but it is stuck in QUUXxBAZ!)
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08:17<babilen>msi: It is normal to choose the highest available resolution. That resolution is typically also the native resolution of your display and therefore the "best". If that is too small you might want to consider increasing font and/or icon sizes for example ....
08:17<msi>well: it uses 1600x1200 at 60.0Hz
08:17<babilen>Sounds reasonable :)
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08:17<babilen>What is the native resolution of your display and what kind of display is it?
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08:17<msi>what i want is: 1024x768 at 85/75HZ
08:18<jm_>ouch
08:18<babilen>What kind of display is it? Doesn't it support 1600x1200 or is that merely "too small" for your eyes? Wouldn't it work to increase font sizes?
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08:18<bernat>msi: you can configure screen resolution from the desktop
08:18<msi>i'm using openbox.
08:18<babilen>jm_: Indeed :) (but it is not for us to judge)
08:18<msi>and xvidtune does not work
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08:19<msi>@jm_: why ouch?
08:19<babilen>msi: So, can you use xrandr/arandr. What kind of display is it and what is its native resolution? (if not a CRT)
08:19<jm_>msi: seems a waste buying a monitor that can do 1600x1200 to use it with 1024x768, but it's your call
08:19<msi>i mean: 1. thing are really too small to be read here. 2. i'm really getting sick with the flickering.
08:20<babilen>msi: Most people are *very* happy with higher resolutions and would consider 1024x768 to be almost unusable.
08:20<haylo>is debian live the easiest way to have my debian systems be ram based ?
08:20<babilen>msi: What kind of display is it? Could you paste the output ...
08:20*babilen ignores the issue now
08:20<haylo>or do you think it would be better to nbe using this bebirf system, or just building them myself?
08:20<msi>i'm just not that fast.
08:20*babilen checks what "bebirf" is
08:21<haylo>its a system for making debian run in ram
08:21<jm_>debirf I think
08:21<msi>why do you need to know what kind of a display that is? you told me: use xrandr. i'm reading the man page.
08:21<jm_>apt-cache show debirf
08:21<babilen>debirf != bebirf!
08:21<haylo>did i say bebirf, gosh im sorry haha
08:21<msi>so, no problem.
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08:22<jm_>msi: you might get more useful info perhaps
08:22<babilen>msi: Because different display technologies work differently. I would at least like to know if it is a CRT or not. You might also find tools such as arandr to be easier to use than xrandr.
08:23<msi>it is a 17'' CRT
08:23<babilen>\o/
08:23<babilen>msi: Ok, you can use whatever resolution you want on that as CRT's don't have a "native resolution" (which means that a bunch of other resolutions just look crappy)
08:23<msi>i'm installing arandr
08:23<jm_>ok 1600 on that does sound like too high
08:24<babilen>msi: See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_resolution
08:24<msi>ok, i understand the necessity of providing more info now ;)
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08:24<bernat>msi: you might just list your wanted resolution in a xorg.conf file in case you can't use desktop tools
08:24<babilen>jm_: I used that a couple of years ago and was very happy. But I can understand if people think that it is too small.
08:25<babilen>msi: I still think that maybe adjusting font sizes is a better way to deal with this. (or glasses (I sincerely apologise, but I couldn't resist))
08:25<msi>well. i'm more about the flickering
08:25<msi>and: it is really damn small.
08:25<msi>smaller than in a normal book print
08:25<babilen>msi: If you don't want to set that resolution every time you start X manually (with xrandr/arandr/*randr) it does actually make a lot of sense to set it in a suitable file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/
08:26<msi>ok
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08:27<babilen>msi: You would create the /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ and create a, sat, /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-display.conf with a suitable "Monitor" section in there.
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08:28<msi>what a feeling. the god of arandr took the flickering away. great.
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08:28<msi>this is a nice tool
08:30<msi>thank you for your help an have a nice day.
08:30<babilen>msi: You also need a "Screen" section in which you configure the resolution ..
08:30<babilen>msi: You are welcome. Good luck!
08:30<msi>i know about these xorg-thing a little bit.
08:30<msi>i think i'll get along.
08:30<msi>bye
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09:32<Megaf>Can you give me a hand please? http://paste.debian.net/189059/
09:32<Megaf>Perhaps I have to ask on #debian-next?
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09:34<gold>cllllll
09:34<daemonkeeper>At very least you should not cross post.
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09:47<devil>Megaf: firmware-linux-nonfree is installed?
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09:49<Megaf>it is, I'm going to compile and try the latest kernel
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09:50<abrotman>that's an old card ...
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09:54<scriptdevil>Hi, I have a realtek rtl8188CE wifi adapter. I installed the firmware-realtek package for this. While /sbin/iwconfig lists the device, it is not powering on. Any idea?
09:54<SynrG>again, as indicated on #debian-next, i think going with experimental, recompiling kernel, etc. ... these are all reactionary and fall in the category of "trying random things"
09:54<SynrG>Megaf: ^^
09:54<SynrG>when you try random things, you get random results. you rarely learn anything by it :p
09:55<SynrG>can we keep it all on #debian-next?
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10:00<scriptdevil>iwlist scan says "Interface does not support scanning. Network is down"
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10:07<SynrG>scriptdevil: toggled off via wifi fn key?
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10:08<scriptdevil>SynrG: Yes
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10:09<SynrG>scriptdevil: yes, that was the problem? not sure what you mean
10:10<scriptdevil>SynrG: No, the problem isn't that. I have an indicator, that does not turn on. Also, wicd and iwlist do not list any wireless connections
10:10<scriptdevil>However, the realtek driver is modprobed
10:10<scriptdevil>Also, wlan lists it
10:10<scriptdevil>*iwconfig lists it as wlan0
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10:11<SynrG>try "rfkill list"
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10:12<scriptdevil>Should I install rfkill?
10:12<SynrG>yup
10:13<scriptdevil>phy0: wireless LAN, hardblocked: no, softblocked:no
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10:14<SynrG>looks fine
10:14<gsimmons>scriptdevil: You'll need to raise the interface before you can scan with iwlist (ifconfig wlan0 up).
10:14<SynrG>did you unload/reload the wifi driver since you installed firmware-realtek?
10:14<SynrG>ah, and that
10:15<scriptdevil>gsimmons: I missed that :o
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10:15<scriptdevil>It works. (I feel like an idiot now!)
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10:16<Super-novice>Hi
10:16<scriptdevil>Thanks
10:16<Super-novice>Il y a t'il des francais ?
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10:17<cyril>Yes, but you should probably keep the conversation in english.
10:17<scriptdevil>Hmmm. It is still not listing any devices. But the LED indicator is up.
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10:17<scriptdevil>Listing any networks
10:17<scriptdevil>*
10:17<scriptdevil>brb
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10:30<Megaf>devil, problem was a blacklist file left by fglrx driver... I had to remove it manually
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10:48<PaulePanter>Hi. Could somebody please tests YouTube’s start page with Epiphany or Midori, Iceweasel under Debian Wheezy?
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10:49<PaulePanter>Scrolling is really slow for me. I tested with Midori and /usr/lib/webkitgtk-3.0-0/libexec/GtkLauncher.
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10:49<PaulePanter>And I am using the radeon DDX driver.
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10:51<babilen>PaulePanter: You want #debian-next -- Could you paste the output of "glxinfo|grep -iE "render(er|ing)"" to http://paste.debian.net ?
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10:57<PaulePanter>babilen: To debian-next or here?
10:58<PaulePanter>$ glxinfo|grep -iE "render(er|ing)"
10:58<PaulePanter>direct rendering: Yes
10:58<PaulePanter>OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on AMD RS780
10:58<PaulePanter>Sorry. I thought three lines is alright to paste directly.
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11:08<CQ>hello, if I get an enclosure like this one http://www.icydock.com/goods.php?id=123 can I attach it to a standard SATA port on the MB (with eSATA connectors at the expansion slot to bring it outside) and then see teh 4 disks inside as separate devices, or how does JBOD work?
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11:39<bhasker>anyone with i2c experience ? I would be happy to take a small help please
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11:48<abrotman>bh....
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12:40<bcv>need a help with i2c please
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13:18<Marijn>What is the recommended Java Runtime Environment for wheezy?
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13:19<Marijn>Never mind, apt-get install default-jre :-)
13:19<Marijn>I'm an idiot
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13:20<jerry>What is the latest version of java that iceweasel on squeeze will run? I have 6u31 and it crashes iceweasel.
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13:24<bcv>need a help with i2c please
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13:31<jerry>I'll try again later
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15:00<Flashdown>Hi there, I have clean install of debian Squeeze amd64. Now I want to install my ATi Catalyst driver, but when I install neccesary ia32-libs for beeing able to run 32 bit apps it will install lib32asound2 automatically. With this installed I will lose my sound. What do to there? Maybe blacklisting something?
15:01<Flashdown>after uninstalling this and rebooting my sound is back
15:02<ph1rmw4r3>interesting.
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15:02<ph1rmw4r3>whats the ATi Catalyst driver for?
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15:02<Flashdown>yes at first I didnt notice that I had lost my sound and installed the graphic card driver and for the first time I was able to run pray demo
15:03<Flashdown>for my ATI Radeon HD6850
15:03<ph1rmw4r3>lmgtfy.
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15:04<Flashdown>what means this?
15:04<Flashdown>before a few new installations I couldnt run pray with the catalyst driver because of 32 bit depencies
15:05<Flashdown>maybe I should install those libs and remove them after installing the grapic card driver?
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15:05<Flashdown>but in any case I will need ia32-libs for the game pray
15:06<Flashdown>and this lib depends on the lib32asound2 same as ia32-gtk
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15:07<ph1rmw4r3>http://lmgtfy.com/?no+Sound+after+install+of+graphics+card
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15:08<Flashdown>xD that was the first thing I googled. did I miss something?
15:09<Flashdown>hm maybe with other terms. research starts from scartch now ^^
15:09<Flashdown>scratch
15:09<ki4ro>.
15:09<ph1rmw4r3>lol xD
15:10<Flashdown>I already tried to blacklist the snd_hda_codec_atihdmi
15:11<Flashdown>I just saw an error on boot screen but it didn't help either
15:11<ki4ro>Just installed Mint Debian....loving it...wish I had tried it before Ubuntu
15:11<ph1rmw4r3>whats the error say?
15:11<Flashdown>cant remember booting is to fast :D
15:12<themill>ki4ro: just to save time later, "mint" is not "debian" and you'll find help for mint in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org.
15:12<Flashdown>something that alsa coulnt load something
15:13<Flashdown>but that can only be the blacklisted driver so I didnt care
15:13<ki4ro>themill: Okay now you have me confused
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15:13<ph1rmw4r3>if i were you id try to update my alsa after installing the graphics driver
15:13<ki4ro>themill: When I boot I can either boot mint or ubuntu
15:13<Flashdown>I alreade purged it and reinstalled the newest version didnt help either
15:14<Flashdown>I am using the win 7 boot loader to load grub2
15:14<ph1rmw4r3>what?
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15:14<ph1rmw4r3>2 boot loaders
15:14<Flashdown>I already removed it with -- purge and reinstalled alsa-base
15:14<Flashdown>yes
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15:14<themill>ki4ro: neither of which is debian...
15:14<Flashdown>installed grub2 on /dev/sda5
15:14<ph1rmw4r3>^ XD
15:15<Flashdown>and using win 7 bootloader to boot windows or linux
15:15<ki4ro>themill: Okay well I installed the debian version of mint I thought that's what it said?
15:15<ph1rmw4r3> !alsa
15:15<dpkg>The Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (ALSA) is a Linux kernel component providing device drivers for sound cards. Ask me about <install alsa>. See also <alsa-checklist>, <alsa firmware>, <default alsa>, <alsa versions>, <alsaconf>. http://wiki.debian.org/ALSA http://www.alsa-project.org/ #alsa on irc.freenode.net.
15:15<themill>ki4ro: there is no debian version of mint. There is debian or there is mint.
15:15<ph1rmw4r3> !alsa-base
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15:16<ki4ro>themill: Okay well I misread something then, obviously! :)
15:16<ph1rmw4r3>ok, no you have no idea what your talking about.. :)
15:16<Flashdown>what are you trying to tell me?
15:16<ph1rmw4r3>your not useing debian?
15:16<Flashdown>that I am just to stupid for debian?
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15:17<Flashdown>I am running Squeeze
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15:17<Flashdown>as I mentioned already
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15:18<retrospectacus>ki4ro: there is a "debian edition" of mint but only pure Debian is supported here... not mint
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15:18<ph1rmw4r3>do a cat /etc/lsb-release
15:18<ph1rmw4r3>tell me what that says..
15:18<ph1rmw4r3>in a terminal " cat /etc/lsb-release "
15:18<retrospectacus>who are you talking to ph1rmw4r3
15:19<Flashdown>file or directory not found
15:19<ki4ro>themill: Okay, when I fire up system monitor it says LinuxMint on the first line, second line says Release 1 (debian)
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15:19<ph1rmw4r3>flashdown: in a terminal " cat /etc/lsb-release "
15:19<Flashdown>I already did
15:19<themill>ki4ro: people can call any sort of crap they want "debian" -- that doesn't make it debian.
15:19<themill>ph1rmw4r3: what are you hoping to find out here?
15:20<ki4ro>themill: I see...sorry
15:20<ph1rmw4r3>sigh..
15:20<Flashdown>cat: /etc/lsb-release: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden
15:20<retrospectacus>ph1rmw4r3: debian does not have that file... try "lsb_release -a" or "cat /etc/debian_version" but still...
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15:20<ph1rmw4r3>thats the point.. hes not running debian..
15:21<themill>ph1rmw4r3: what?
15:21<Flashdown>me?!
15:21<themill>Flashdown: you might want to ignore ph1rmw4r3 at this stage...
15:21<retrospectacus>he said he is, why don't you believe him?
15:21<ph1rmw4r3>that wouldnt work if you were
15:21<Flashdown>I am running Squeeze using the Netinst CD
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15:21<retrospectacus>debian does *not* have that file ph1rmw4r3
15:21<Flashdown>it doesnt work
15:21<ph1rmw4r3>i need some sleep
15:21<Flashdown>it says file not found nothing else
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15:22<Flashdown>?!
15:22<retrospectacus>aaaanyways what was your question Flashdown
15:22<Flashdown>No LSB modules are available.
15:22<Flashdown>Distributor ID: Debian
15:22<Flashdown>Description: Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.5 (squeeze)
15:22<Flashdown>Release: 6.0.5
15:22<Flashdown>Codename: squeeze
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15:22<themill>Flashdown: we believe you're running squeeze -- please don't paste stuff into the channel
15:23<Flashdown>sry
15:23<Flashdown>nobody knows a solution?
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15:23<retrospectacus>I don't know the problem
15:23<Flashdown>maybe a way how to install ia32 without asound
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15:23<Flashdown>or a way to block it from beeing loaded
15:24<Flashdown>how to go forward any suggestions?
15:24<Flashdown>maybe this is a bug? but I am unable to decide if its a bug
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15:25<Flashdown>I am an IT Proffessional and a Linux lamer
15:25<Flashdown>-.-
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15:28<Flashdown>I want to switch completly but everthing I got is a flamewar
15:28<Freeren>I guess you have to ask a specific question Flashdown
15:28<Flashdown>running my debian squeeze server and securing it is totaly easy
15:28<Freeren>in terms of specific and clear
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15:28<Flashdown>Running debian with desktop kills me
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15:29<Flashdown>I already asked a specific question
15:29<Flashdown>Hi there, I have clean install of debian Squeeze amd64. Now I want to install my ATi Catalyst driver, but when I install neccesary ia32-libs for beeing able to run 32 bit apps it will install lib32asound2 automatically. With this installed I will lose my sound. What do to there? Maybe blacklisting something?
15:29<Flashdown><Flashdown> after uninstalling this and rebooting my sound is back
15:29<Flashdown>what am I doing so terrible wrong I like to punch my machine
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15:35<Flashdown>feeling so lost, isn't this a specific question for you?
15:36<Flashdown>I installed a couple of times because I didnt recognized that I lost my sound and when
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15:36<Flashdown>now I know its because of those packages
15:36<Flashdown>Using google didnt help me
15:37<Flashdown>I dont know what to do more :(
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15:38<Flashdown>ok last try for you guys laughing at me
15:38<retrospectacus>Flashdown: you may need to configure alsa to use pulse
15:38<Flashdown>its is required to configure the lib32asound after installing
15:38<retrospectacus>http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/Documentation/User/PerfectSetup
15:39<Flashdown>thats a interesting point
15:39<retrospectacus>see the pcm.!default {
15:39<retrospectacus>in /etc/asound.conf
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15:39<Flashdown>that easy? I think i saw something like this when I googled around
15:39<retrospectacus>I don't use ATI but I had to do this, something to do with 32libs of some sort
15:41<Flashdown>I really thank you because this could be a solution!
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15:42<Flashdown>is pulse better than alsa?
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15:43<Flashdown>I dont know the difference
15:43<Flashdown>only thing I know that it is a different driver
15:43<retrospectacus>ehh better? I like the control panel better :)
15:43<retrospectacus>pulse seems to be the way of the future
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15:44<Flashdown>I remember that I had two audio control panels in one of my thousend reinstallations
15:44<Flashdown>Maybe I got it already running
15:44<Flashdown>sometime
15:44<Flashdown>^
15:44<Flashdown>^^
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15:46<Flashdown>so I just install the pulseaudio package and afterwards I need to edit some lines of code?
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15:47<Flashdown>should I uninstall alsa or it is required somehow?
15:47<retrospectacus>keep alsa, and configure it to send its output to pulse as per the guide above
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15:48<Flashdown>ok thanks! When I mark pulseaudio for installation it also will install libasound2-plugins
15:49<Flashdown>so maybe only pulse support this lib
15:49<Flashdown>just guessing
15:49<Flashdown>and now: here we go!
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15:52<debdog>libasound is part of alsa, very unlikely that it is supported by PA only :)
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15:54<Flashdown>ok ^
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15:55<debdog>it is the driver
15:55<debdog>oops
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15:56<Flashdown>to activate the driver edit /etc/asound.conf
15:56<Flashdown>I dont have this config file
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15:56<Flashdown>do I need to create it manually or will it get created after rebooting?
15:56<Flashdown>debdog you are confusing me
15:57<debdog>sorry, will shut uo then
15:57<debdog>*up
15:57<Flashdown>no dont remove the light at the end of the tunnel
15:57<retrospectacus>you have to create it
15:57<Flashdown>ok
15:58<Eryn_1983_FL>hey peeps i need some cool ascii art for debian where can i get it?
15:58<Eryn_1983_FL>i am trying to spruce up the ole desktop
15:58<Eryn_1983_FL>desktop
15:58<Eryn_1983_FL>lol
15:59<debdog>sorry MARK II, I have no idea how PA is supposed to help with your issue. in fact I am running stable 64bit with fglrx and installed lib32 stuff and I haven't had any problem with sound yet
15:59<dioz>Flashdown: it isn't on newer systems
16:00<dioz>your question about asound.conf for alsa i had to create one to get my hdmi audio to work
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16:01<Flashdown>ok I will do a reboot with installed ia32-libs and will see what happens
16:01<Flashdown>cya soon :(
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16:02<dioz>reboot?
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16:06<flashdown>hey guys I love you!!!
16:06<flashdown>pulse did it!!!
16:06<flashdown>and now I have ia32-libs with it depencies installed
16:06<flashdown>yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees!!!
16:06<flashdown>finaly!!!
16:07<flashdown>back to normal operating mode xD
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16:07<flashdown>cant tell you how much I thank you
16:07<debdog>\o/
16:08<themill>flashdown: persistence pays off. Good stuff.
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16:08<flashdown>@retrospectacus: Can I pay you like 5 euro for your tip?
16:08<flashdown>because this lead into success
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16:08<flashdown>so happy now
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16:10<flashdown>you have 3 minutes to accept it from now on just drop your paypal emailadress in a pm chat to receive the money
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16:12<flashdown>hm maybe he is away or dont want to get my present
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16:17<flashdown>I wrote him a PM so he is able to contact me because I think he is away
16:18<flashdown>have a nice night guys
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17:59<ssr>Hi
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18:01<tyson>does debian come with any default packages that allow you to connect to wifi under an 802.x / PEAP authentication? i am not seeing that option in the network-manager-gnome frontend anywhere
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18:02<tyson>i need it because my laptop is debian only and my school uses it
18:02<Egnuph>Using latest gnome debian unstable, I wonder what the chat plugin is called (the one in the top right menu). It seems to support google and facebook but how do I regiter icq/aim accouints?
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18:04<tale>tyson: I have never heard about PEAP authentication. Otherwise connecting to WIFI works out of the box.
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18:04<daemonkeeper>tyson: Network Manager does support WPA-EAP
18:05<daemonkeeper>tyson: But, using wpa-supplicant works too, of course.
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18:06<daemonkeeper>Set the "Wireless Security" mode to WPA/WPA2 Enterprise. From there, follow your universities instruction. If you are talking about European universities "eduroam" network, it clearly works with that.
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18:20<tyson>daemonkeeper: when i selecte Wireless Security, i only get WPA2 personal, i dont see any Enterprise option, i am using 6.0.4 x64
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18:20<daemonkeeper>What's your card?
18:21<tyson>also if i choose that it wants a KEY not the EAP login/pass and as for the card ... hold on
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18:21<tyson>an atheros AR9287
18:22<tyson>the card itself can support it, as i have used it on windows 7
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18:34<superdeb>Debian Squeeze: How can I disable the framebuffer when I log in text only mode?
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18:39<tale>superdeb: Google for disable framebuffer debian squeeze
18:39<superdeb>tale: I do not google, I duckduckgo :)
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19:02<karan_>hello everyone
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19:09<chico_marx>oh boy... for the third time I have broken my nvidia drivers and now I have changed so many things, installed and reinstalled the sasme things soo many times, that I don't even know where to begin to fix it
19:11<chico_marx>and I don't know exactly what I did to fix it the previous times
19:12<chico_marx>is there a way to know which drivers I have installed in my kernel, that the X server could possibly call
19:12<chico_marx>?
19:14<devil>I guess we are speaking of the proprietary driver?
19:15<chico_marx>well, mnot really, I was not able to compile the proprietary drivers
19:15<devil>compile? why would you?
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19:16<devil>chico_marx: http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers
19:16<chico_marx>I was running xserver-xorg-video-nvidia
19:17<devil>chico_marx: there is nouveau and the prop. driver
19:17<thedead>Hi all, I'm in the following situation: i have a server where i need to put webserver + 2 other services. I use apache as webserver and i need to put in https the other two services so i need to make them live together. We all know that a service could bind only one socket per time so i was thinking on something like an internal redirection, something that could looks like https://myhost/ handled by apache, https://myhost/s
19:17<thedead>ervice1 handled by service1, https://myhost/service2 handled by service2, ..., https://myhost/serviceN handled by serviceN. Anyone knows about this? I don't know if this is the right place to ask but try wont hurt i think :)
19:17<devil>installing the latter blacklists nouveau
19:18<chico_marx>well, I guess I tried running every possiblçe nvidia driver. The only one that worked was from backports
19:19<devil>chico_marx: please be specific on the driver
19:20<chico_marx>I'm not sure which one worked, but Im almost positive it was xserver-xorg-video-nvidia from squeeze backports not free
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19:20<devil>chico_marx: i would suggest you remove all you did and start fresh witrh the above wiki
19:20<devil>gotta run
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19:21<chico_marx>Ive read that bwiki a million times, but Ill try again, thanks
19:21<devil>chico_marx: with dkms it's really a no-brainer
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19:24<superdeb>how can I scroll the statusbar in irssi? My fonts are big and I cannot see the whole messages displayed on the status bar... how can I scroll it right to be able to read it all?
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19:37<safinaskar>when wheezy will be stable?
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19:37<streuner__>safinaskar: /msg dpkg wir
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19:40<safinaskar>okey, what do you think when wheezy will be stable?
19:40<safinaskar>i want some estimation
19:40<safinaskar>will it before 2013?
19:41<retrospectacus>here are the betting pool wagers
19:41<retrospectacus>!wheezy pool 1
19:41<dpkg>! tremon=2013-01-26 jelly=2013-05-07 comps=2013-02-20 ml|=2013-06-13 chealer=2012-12-20 jordanm=2013-08-21 peterrooney=2013-02-08 Arrowmaster=2012-12-12 simonrvn=2013-03-23 themi11=2013-03-15 abrotman=2013-06-01
19:43<safinaskar>retrospectacus: thanks a lot ! :)
19:43<safinaskar>retrospectacus: but i am said. this pools is very in future
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19:46<daemonkeeper>Of course it will be before 2013. Otherwise there won't be a final release before the end of days has come.
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19:51<Misa3l_>gotmynick:
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19:54<retrospectacus>Misa3l_: don't do that. gotmynick is not your "designated helper". If you have a problem ask the channel. If you want to talk to gotmynick send a PM asking if you can.
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20:07<Misa3l_>o hable sin saber cual es el problema retrospectacus
20:07<Misa3l_>No hable sin saber cual es el problema retrospectacus
20:08<Apollo>!es
20:08<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
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20:38<lnear>What the channels name for questions about IPTABLES?
20:39<abrotman>there is #netfilter on irc.freenode.net
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20:57<tina>seems there is a integration between evolution and network-manager, evolution can't connect on the internet cz network-manager isnot managed. I use eth0 as bridge cz I have br0 on my virtual machines, and network-manager can't recognize other interface beside eth0 ( I think ), and if I turn network-manager managed, it change my resolv.conf , and I lost my dns address to navigate on the internet. So I just wanna use Evolution, wh
20:57<tina>at you advice me to do?
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21:02<tina>someone up here?
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21:04<abrotman>lots of people
21:04<abrotman>!fixresolvconf
21:04<dpkg>To fix your /etc/resolv.conf: edit /etc/dhcp{,3}/dhclient.conf to include the nameservers you want to use (ask me about <override dns>). Alternatively, use <resolvconf> and specify the nameservers yourself: echo -e "nameserver a.b.c.d\nnameserver w.x.y.z" > /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base; resolvconf -u (where a.b.c.d and w.x.y.z are your ISPs nameservers). Also ask me about <fixresolvconf the ugly way>.
21:05<tina>abrotman thx by atention but it don't helps me
21:07<abrotman>okay ...
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21:07<tina>if its not boring, could u think a way to advice me ?
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21:08<abrotman>i did
21:09<tina>if i change resolv.conf network-manager change it again, get it?
21:09<abrotman>see above
21:09<tina>and it change to be empty
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21:11<tina>needed to stop the integration between evolution and network-manager, or make NM recognize my br0 interface.
21:11<tina>i think
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21:14<tina>!override dns
21:14<dpkg>To instruct dhclient to use your specified nameserver rather than the one given to you by your DHCP server, echo "supersede domain-name-servers a.b.c.d, e.f.g.h;" >> /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf, or see man 5 dhclient.conf for more information. Instead of supersede, you can also use "prepend" or "append" to add nameservers. Or remove domain-name-servers (etc.) from dhclient.conf if you prefer.
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21:15<tina>abrotman could u help me?
21:16<abrotman>wiht what?
21:16<abrotman>i don't know anything about n-m and br0
21:16<abrotman>have you read the network-manager docs?
21:17<abrotman>or try 'evolution --force-online'
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21:23<tina>abrotman thk u again, but I have it evolution-shell-Message: Network disconnected. Forced offline.
21:23<tina>but how can my network be disconnected
21:24<abrotman>even with --force-online ?
21:24<tina>yes friend
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21:25<Guest6578>hi, can anyone tell me how to install dvdstyler, using debian 6.0.5 squeeze
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21:25<tina>so seems I need to solve NM first, what u think abrotman ?
21:25<abrotman>tina: then i'd go back to reading the n-m docs
21:26<tina>about the n-m it don't wanna work cz the interface of internet here is br0
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21:28<tina>I'm thinking here
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21:39<tina>abrotman: maybe if I make evolution work without n-m should be better...
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21:40<abrotman>that's whta the --force-online seems like it hsould do
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21:41<z_marco>tina, you might want to asses the following online document: http://wiki.debian.org/BridgeNetworkConnections
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21:44<tina>abrotman, yes but actually this command don't exist, and I used -h to discover the --online option which don't work
21:45<tina>z_marco, it's my interfaces http://paste.debian.net/189198/
21:45<abrotman>--force-online ...
21:45<abrotman>tina: evolution --help-all
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21:45<tina>yes it don't work I tried
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21:49<tina>z_marco, it's alredy working, what's my problem is the network-manager, don't recognize my net cz my interfaces have eth0 like bridge
21:51<tina>I tried to google, network-manager control br0 device, but without success
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22:00<z_marco>tina: good to read that it's already working. Can you please post the networkmanager.conf in paste.debian.net?
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22:02<tina>z_marco, sure it's here http://paste.debian.net/189200/
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22:03<tina>so seems there is no solution, what ppl do is to use 2 interfaces, one to Virtual machines and other to network-manager, each one per time.
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22:07<nevyn>so imnsho at the point where your netwokring is complicated enough to involve br0 you've outgrown what networkmanager is good for.
22:08<abrotman>problem is that gnome-ish applications want it there
22:09<tina>yes
22:09<tina>I readed it without solution http://debian.distrosfaqs.org/debian-user/bridging-eth0br0-networkmanager-can-they-coexist/
22:11<z_marco>tina: you might want to try to set the value ifupdown to "true" to get it managed and restart the daemon.
22:12<dioz>what aryou guys talking about?
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22:15<tina>yes I did before, but what I saw was n-m recognizing my eth0 and changing resolv.conf to empty, so I could not navigate cz my interface is br0 .
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22:17<z_marco>tina: Aaah, I will refer you to this document from debian which addresses NM http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkManager
22:18<tina>dioz: I have manual configuration with interfaces to virtual machines, and to use evolution and gnome apps I need have the network-manager working, but the auto configuration of NM don't make my internet and my Virtual machines work....
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22:22<tina>It looks so basic, needed to have a solution on google about it, it's impossible no one tried kvm, and used network managed
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22:23<gooberdoober>Is there a way to view past instances of where my system was logged into using Debian Squeeze?
22:24<abrotman>last
22:25<gooberdoober>thanks. do you know how far that goes back and if the instances of logins recorded can be adjusted?
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22:26<gooberdoober>i see how far it goes back now, but about the latter part of the previous question
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22:35<nadir1>try "last -n 1000" or such
22:36<abrotman>sounds like someone's trying to cover their tracks ..
22:39<tina>abrotman, z_marco, nevyn, you also see no solution for me?
22:39<gooberdoober>abrotman: that is what i am trying to figure out
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22:40<tina>gooberdoober, if you wanna it use nc
22:41<abrotman>...
22:43<gooberdoober>thanks. too late for that now as my home was already broken into. just trying to check everything. will consider it in the future
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23:02<tina>abrotman, z_marco, nevyn, so I surrender, thanks guys
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23:04<z_marco>tina: never surrender.. hehehe I've been reading on your problem, and the more I read about it, it seems that NM has a hard time managing br0 forcing you to drop NM.
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23:07<tina>thx z_marco but I see no solution...
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23:08<z_marco>I'm afraid it's more of a gnome-ish issue than a Debian one.
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23:13<tina>I think I'll need to use a virtual machine to have internet access on gnome apps hahah
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23:17<z_marco>tina: hard to say.. these days I use Virtual Machines as well. I'm currently on one while chatting with you, but my Debian installs are always from scratch. I avoid Gnome and KDE as much as possible.
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23:23<tina>z_marco, I'm thinking if find how network-manager write on resolv.conf ... could edit it and have a solution maybe
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23:26<z_marco>tina: it's always good practice to keep original files before indulging yourself with such edits (i.e. cp -a /etc/resolv.conf etc/resolv.conf.orig)
23:26<z_marco>ooops, typo
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23:41<Philm>can anyone tell me how i can keep my laptop from suspending when i shut the screen
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