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#debian IRC Logs for 2012-09-12

---Logopened Wed Sep 12 00:00:48 2012
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00:17<amitz>build essential, is it included in debian wheezy installer
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00:21<Apollo>amitz: no
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00:37<Eryn_1983_FL>hey peeps i am trying to figure out what i can use my mysql DB for..
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00:37<Eryn_1983_FL>i hardly user it and if i am not using it then i am not learning it. I need some ideas
00:38<Eryn_1983_FL>i guess i could make it apart of my webpge but it seems like a tank to do what a VW bug could do..
00:38<Eryn_1983_FL>so i dunno.
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00:38<jeep>hi
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00:41<jeep>wb Eryn_1983_FL
00:41<Eryn_1983_FL>hi
00:41<Eryn_1983_FL>lol
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02:15<hotwings>can debs be created using checkinstall _without_ requiring user input.. or are you forced to at least press enter (as seen in http://www.falkotimme.com/howtos/checkinstall/images/1.gif for example)? i want to automate deb creation, without any user input hassle
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02:16<jm_>it looks to have many options to set the values it asks for
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02:20<hotwings>yes, and i provide them all but i still get that prompt, which prevents me from automating the deb creation. its completely useless for me to be forced to press enter to create the deb so thats why im asking if theres a way to make checkinstall not bother with the prompt.. so far i havent found a way but im not a checkinstall master
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02:28<jm_>even with -y?
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02:34<zsolt>hi there.trying to make deb packages,with dpkg-buildpackage but it makes only the docs
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02:48<falosaurio>Where I can download a dvd iso with debian sid?
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02:48<falosaurio>or debian unstable
02:49<ompaul>not sid
02:49<ompaul>!install
02:49<dpkg>There are a myriad different ways to install Debian. See http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer for a list of images and ask me about <various cd1>. See also <install guide> and <d-i> for detailed instructions. (If you've never installed Debian before, you should read the install guide.)
02:50<ompaul>falosaurio: note that installing from the "testing series" installer is not suggested as it is a test of the installer, then you can d-u to sid
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02:51<ompaul>falosaurio: also if you don't know debian enough that you had to ask that question, might I suggest that you should spend some time on stable learning how to work debian, it's not any other distro, it has it's own way, getting it right is rewarding, breaking it is annoying.
02:51<falosaurio>if I understand the risks
02:52<ompaul>the risks are unworking machine, it is not stable it will do something at some point when it will eat your family and enslave your pets ;-)
02:52<falosaurio>I have debian stable but I have curiosity :D
02:53<ompaul>then install stable, and then dist-upgrade
02:54<ompaul>I have to indulge my employers requirement for my swap of time for money, so I best be off. ;-)
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02:55<falosaurio>Already solved the heating problem in debian wheezy pc?
02:57<falosaurio>Have you solved the problem of temperature rise in the pc debian wheezy?
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02:58<falosaurio>my English is very bad
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02:59<falosaurio>so it does not install ati proprietary drivers
03:00<falosaurio>I could upgrade to wheezy
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03:05<jeep>falosaurio, a over heating issue is a hardware specific problem
03:05<jm_>it could also be a driver issue
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03:06<jm_>falosaurio: note that there's no fglrx-driver in wheezy right now
03:07<jm_>hmm looks like "why is foo not in testing" is using wrong URL
03:08<jm_>ahh looks like it has been removed from the site
03:08<falosaurio>on my laptop I solved the problem by installing high temperature ati proprietary drivers
03:08<falosaurio>but in my debian stable
03:09<jm_>there's a newer version for debian stable in backports
03:09<jm_>,versions fglrx-driver
03:09<judd>Package: fglrx-driver on i386 -- lenny/non-free: 1:8-12-4; lenny-backports/non-free: 1:10-4-1~bpo50+1; squeeze/non-free: 1:10-9-3; sid/non-free: 1:12-6+point-1; experimental/non-free: 1:12-6+point-1+exp1
03:10<jm_>bot doesn't mention it, but it is there: http://packages.debian.org/squeeze-backports/fglrx-driver
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03:10<jm_>(maybe it's because amd64 arch is the only one listed)
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03:12<falosaurio>I will try in debian wheezy
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03:14<jm_>like I said, there's no fglrx driver in wheezy
03:16<falosaurio>Is there proprietary drivers in debian wheezy?
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03:21<jm_>no, fglrx is proprietary driver
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04:00<GuilhermeCunha>http://live.debian.net/ikiwiki.cgi?do=prefs
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04:57<confrey>hi everybody
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04:59<confrey>just installed debian testing, I have a strange thing : running alsamixer in terminal, everytime I have Master only, and I've always to choose the sound card by F6, then I can see all controls; but I've one card only, and in xfce mixer shows master only, what can I do?
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05:00<bernat>confrey: it seems ok
05:00<bernat>confrey: in alsamixer, for xfce I don't know what might be wrong
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05:01<confrey>bernat, ok, thank you, nad we'll ignore xfce for the moment, but
05:01<bernat>confrey: can you configure your xfce mixer to use the right card?
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05:03<confrey>why as root may I run alsamixer and obtain at once all controls, and as user I ahve to choose the only one card I have? other choice is 'Default sound card', it seems my only sound card is not set as default...
05:03<confrey>bernat, no, I can't configure xfce mixer, if I trry to choose controols, master is the unique choice
05:03<bernat>confrey: I think it's the way ALSA is configured
05:04<bernat>confrey: you should ask in #debian-next, that's for testing/sid
05:04<bernat>confrey: this channel is for squeeze
05:04<confrey>bernat, ok, thanks, I'll go there...
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05:06<monoglets>root@pirok:# ifconfig eth1 up
05:06<monoglets>SIOCSIFFLAGS: Cannot assign requested address
05:06<monoglets>someone know why it?
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05:08<monoglets>and lspci returns
05:08<monoglets>05:02.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
05:08<monoglets>normal
05:09<rigved>monoglets: are you using a static IP address?
05:09<monoglets>yes
05:09<rigved>monoglets: and, are you able to ping any website?
05:09<monoglets>do you wanna see interfaces?
05:10<monoglets>actually the connection is on eth0
05:10<rigved>monoglets: it's possible that the IP address which you have assigned is conflicting with some IP address in the network.
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05:10<monoglets>I will pastebin my interfaces to understand
05:11<rigved>monoglets: ok.
05:11<monoglets>its here http://paste.debian.net/189520/
05:12<monoglets>I'm trying to postroute eth1
05:12<monoglets>so I added this config
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05:14<monoglets>did u understand rigved ?
05:14<rigved>monoglets: ok.
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05:15<monoglets>I need this machine as bridge also or as server
05:16<rigved>monoglets: Please try to do a ping to your Internet Gateway, like ping -c 4 192.168.0.1 or something like that.
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05:17<monoglets>I can ping all before this machine
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05:17<monoglets>and eth1 I can ping that address 192.168.0.50
05:18<monoglets>but I can't ping nothing after this machine passing by eth1
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05:20<monoglets>any idea?
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05:22<rigved>monoglets: Can you change the IP address assigned to eth1 to something other than 192.168.0.50 ?
05:22<monoglets>yes I also tried 10.0.0.*
05:23<monoglets>the first server is 10.1.1 range on eth0 and 192.168 on eth1
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05:23<rigved>monoglets: ok. Please pastebin the output of ifconfig.
05:24<monoglets>and this second server I'm talking about
05:24<monoglets>is that interfaces
05:25<monoglets>http://paste.debian.net/189522/
05:26<rigved>monoglets: ok. So, are able to ping everything on the 10.1.1.* range from the second server? Please pastebin the output of ifconfig.
05:26<rigved>monoglets: ok.
05:26<monoglets>yes
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05:26<monoglets>I just can't ping after eth1 of second server
05:26<rigved>monoglets: ok.
05:27<rigved>monoglets: Please pastebin the output of running the command ifconfig in your terminal on both the servers.
05:27<monoglets>ok
05:28<monoglets>first is http://paste.debian.net/189523/
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05:29<monoglets>and second http://paste.debian.net/189524/
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05:31<rigved>monoglets: ok.
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05:33<monoglets>I'm thinking it's hardware problem
05:33<monoglets>what do you think rigved ?
05:34<rigved>monoglets: eth0 is unable to get an IP address. Plus, the eth1 interface is not up.
05:34<rigved>monoglets: I am talking about the second server here.
05:35<rigved>monoglets: Sorry, my mistake. eth0 on the second server is only able to get an IPv6 address.
05:36<monoglets>yes bridge configuration
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05:36<monoglets>remember bridge_ports eth0 tap0
05:37<monoglets>on interfaces
05:37<rigved>monoglets: I found some aticles on the internet.
05:37<rigved>monoglets: This one talks about kernel module problems: http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/network-internet/421070-siocsifflags-cannot-assign-requested-address-rtl8111-8168-a.html.
05:38<rigved>monoglets: This one talks about an IP address collision on the same NIC: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/ip-alias-siocsifflags-cannot-assign-requested-address-912985/
05:39<monoglets>I'll see now
05:40<monoglets>the first I don't believe is happening here cz eth0 works
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05:41<rigved>monoglets: ok.
05:42<monoglets>and the second is possible cz I don't tried other ip range beside 10.*.*.*
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05:45<rigved>monoglets: try to use a different IP range, like 172.16.*.*
05:45<monoglets>I think the problem is the configuration of eth0 bridge
05:45<rigved>for the eth1 on the second server.
05:46<rigved>monoglets: you said that eth0 on the second server is working fine on 192.168.*.* range as you are able to ping the first server.
05:46<monoglets>yes
05:46<monoglets>like bridge
05:47<rigved>monoglets: the problem seems to be the IP range on the second server for eth1. Please try changing that.
05:47<monoglets>but the ip is on br0
05:47<monoglets>virtual device
05:47<rigved>monoglets: ok.
05:48<monoglets>so I'll test it now
05:48<rigved>monoglets: ok.
05:48<monoglets>two configrations on interfaces
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05:48<monoglets>and I come back to tell you
05:49<monoglets>but thank you already
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05:50<jack01>hello fellow debian users. I'm having little issue with my box, I'm trying to find a list of packages installed by me (no dependencies), something like gentoo's world list. Is there something like that?
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05:53<rigved>jack01: dpkg --get-selections > installed_packages.txt. This will include the dependencies installed as well.
05:54<jm_>jack01: what do you use to install packages?
05:55<rigved>monoglets: i have to leave now. bye.
05:55<jack01>jm_: apt-get install. I'm on debian stable
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05:55<babilen>jack01: What are you plan to do with that list?
05:55<jm_>jack01: then take the list of installed packages and combine with apt-mark showauto
05:56<jack01>rigved: I know about this, but this is not working for me. Becauase if I then move installed_packages to the diffrent machine and install everything, apt-get autoclean will not work, right?
05:56<jm_>this might not be 100% accurate but I'm not sure if you'll get anything more than this
05:56<babilen>jack01: What are you *really* trying to do?
05:57<bernat>jack01: apt-get autoclean doesn't uninstall unneeded packages
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05:57<bernat>jack01: it's for the package cache
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05:57<babilen>jack01: Do you want to clone one machine to another in the sense that both boxes have the same set of packages installed? Do you want to keep the information about automatically and manually installed packages? What are you trying to do?
05:58*babilen stops guessing now
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05:58<rigved>jm_: so, something like apt-mark showmanual should show all the manually installed packages, right?
05:59<babilen>!aptitude clone
05:59<dpkg>To clone a Debian machine using aptitude (or install your favourite packages) use aptitude search -F '%100p' '~i!~M' > package_list; on the reference machine; xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < package_list; aptitude install; on the other machine. This preserves information about "automatically installed" packages that other methods do not. See also <reinstall>, <things to backup>, <debian clone>, <apt-clone>.
05:59<babilen>jack01: Is this ^^^^ what you want? It is really hard to help you if I don't know what you really want to do? This guessing and stabbing in the dark is a bit, well, suboptimal :)
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06:02<jack01>babilen: I want to keep track of automatically and manually installed packages. aptitude search -F '%100p' '~i!~M' didn't do the trick :(
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06:03<jm_>rigved: no, there is no "showmanual", just "showauto"
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06:04<monoglets>jm_ where is rigved ?
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06:04<monoglets>will back?
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06:05<Forseti>Hello, can i get some help about ubuntu here?
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06:05<babilen>jack01: It does -- It lists all installed packages "~i" that have not been not (!) been automatically installed (~M) -- How exactly does it not "do the trick" ?
06:05<babilen>dpkg: ubuntuirc Forseti
06:05<dpkg>Forseti: This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server chat.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://chat.freenode.net/ubuntu
06:06<Forseti>babilen, Thank you! :)
06:06<babilen>Forseti: Have fun!
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06:07<jack01>babilen: I just install pure box. and that commandd shows me for example python,sed which I didn't install manualy, I understand that those packages are part of the system
06:09<jm_>you can exclude those too
06:10-!-mode/#debian [+l 526] by debhelper
06:10<babilen>jack01: They have been explicitly installed by the installer during the installation. The distinction is between packages that have been installed *only* to satisfy a dependency and those that have been installed explicitly. The does not have necessarily have to be done by a humanoid.
06:10<babilen>"The latter .."
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06:12<babilen>jack01: Well, you surely asked for the installation because you installed Debian. sed, for example, is an essential package that will be installed as part of the base system. You will have *no* problems whatsoever if you use the instructions in the <aptitude clone> factoid (or at least base the list of "packages to installed" on aptitude's search output)
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06:17<jack01>babilen: ok, thanks. More or less I was looking for the alternative to the gentoo's world file. It is just old habbit :) but thanks for your help. For example if you install pure gentoo, the world file is clean. Let say that you install htop mc. Only those 2 packages will be in the world file. So you can really keep track of what you really wanted. So if I decided in the future that mc is no longer required I simply remove it from the world file
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06:22<babilen>jack01: I see where you are coming from, but you do want essential packages (trust me on this) and most likely even those in the <standard task>. It doesn't make sense to see sets of packages you install during the initial installation differently than those that you install afterwards. If you *really* want to remove packages such as base-files or coreutils you are welcome to come back and discuss your options :)
06:22<bernat>jack01: you can keep track of packages installed but there's no way to diferentiate packages installed by humans or by apps
06:24<babilen>jack01: I would also like to know what "pure gentoo" refers to in this context. Stage 1 base install? Surely not Stage 3? (but lets not continue this here as I think that you get my point)
06:26<jack01>babilen: I agree :) thanks for your help
06:26<jack01>bernat: this is what I want to hear, thanks
06:28<monoglets>ifconfig eth1 up return SIOCSIFFLAGS: Cannot assign requested address // someone know about this problem?
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08:25<r4ph431>hi, I've a question about sudo, I've added `Defaults!/usr/bin/ssh env_keep=HOME` to sudoers and did the same for SSH_AUTH_SOCK and USER
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08:26<r4ph431>but still, with ssh-agent activated for my user, sudo ssh host ask about the fingerprint and create /root/.ssh, I wonder why
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08:27<r4ph431>[ so password-less login works, but I'm annoyed about /root/.ssh and would like to get rid of that, if possible ]
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09:07<Artej>Hi!
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09:10<Artej>Why knetworkmanager displays connection active, but connection dont work?
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09:14<Artej>And tips to add it to startup from google didn't resolved an issue
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09:14<Artej>and didn't make it to start with system
09:15<r4ph431>http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkManager
09:16<Artej>r4ph431: saw that article earlier
09:17<Artej>network manager is running
09:17<Artej>when I connect to WiFi I receive feedback in dmsg
09:18<Artej>that connection is now active etc
09:18<Artej>but in fact it isn't :/
09:18<Artej>can't ping gateway
09:19<r4ph431>man iwconfig dhclient route ping
09:19<Artej>lol, I don't want to setup it manually every time
09:19<Artej>:/
09:20<Artej>I want to set up front end once
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09:21<Artej>Can it be problem with wifi region?
09:22<Artej>I remember seting it up in gnome2 but I can't find it here in kde :/
09:22<Artej>guess I just need to go to KDE irc :D
09:22<Artej>r4ph431: thx, gday
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10:02<dawid1>Hi. I am using Debian amd64, my Browser is iceweasel. Problem: I try to use skydrive on the browser but it doesn't show up a page. I google it to try to find a solution for it. But there is not much. I need skydrive because I use it in my college, I dont want to go by to Windows :( Do you have any ideas how can I use Skydrive on debian?
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10:04<heatmsier>yo yo yo
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10:06<perlwizard>dawid1 have you considered using something else
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10:08<dawid1>I thought about it, but in my college they use MS Skydrive, and it is installed in every pc. Probably I cant instal anything else there, so I stock with SDrive unfortunetly.
10:09<perlwizard>dawid1 what exactly are you using it for? just file storage, or are there some other features?
10:12<dawid1>File storage, notes etc
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10:17<dawid1>Well I thought about using something else, but I still would like to have this skydrive, just incase. And I already have things there. I dont know why it dont open, It seems like it should work on any browser, but somehow it doesn't. I will try to install new firefox, maybe it will help.
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13:01<zeptis>hello all, I'm having some difficulty configuring mplayer: I want it to continue through a playlist, but it's currently stopping after every file. I am currently using gnome-mplayer as a frontend. My current config, and what I've tried so far, is as follows: http://pastebin.com/eKh1Bsxw
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13:02<zeptis>What flags should I feed to get continuous play?
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13:14<variable_>hi
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13:15<variable_>does any body of you have installed skype 4 on debian amd64?
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13:18<zeptis>I have in the past, why Variable_?
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13:19<retrospectacus>variable_: just assume that we all have, and ask your real question
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13:20<variable_>i cant install it
13:21<retrospectacus>.... go on
13:21<zeptis>(sorry for vapid question) Did you follow the instructions on their site, variable_?
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13:21<retrospectacus>and http://wiki.debian.org/skype
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13:23<variable_>i have "Release unstable (sid) 64-bit" with "Kernel Linux 3.2.0-3-amd64" and after install i get a broken package
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13:24<retrospectacus>show us http://paste.debian.net/
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13:24<retrospectacus>and did you follow the directions on the wiki
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13:26<variable_>http://paste.debian.net/189583/
13:27<retrospectacus>yes, now do ''apt-get -f install''
13:27<variable_>this is an output when trying to install via console
13:27<retrospectacus>like the wiki says -.-
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13:28<zeptis>variable_: if you're not comfortable with line commands, you can open and install the package in GUI using GDebi.
13:28<variable_>yes i know
13:28<variable_>http://paste.debian.net/189584/
13:29<SynrG>and 'apt-get -f install skype' ?
13:30<variable_>ohh sorry i had to do that "'apt-get -f install skype'"?
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13:30<SynrG>well, otherwise apt will try to guess the 'best' solution
13:30<SynrG>obviously, removing skype is not what you want :)
13:30<variable_>The following packages have unmet dependencies: skype : Depends: ia32-libs-gtk but it is not going to be installed E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
13:31<retrospectacus>did you do the ''dpkg --add-architecture'' step ?
13:31<SynrG>what does 'dpkg --print-foreign-architectures' say?
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13:32<variable_>nothing
13:32<zeptis>Variable_: I think you might have the 32bit skype package. The amd64 debian package is available from Skype's landing site.
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13:32<SynrG>variable_: so i guess the answer to retrospectacus's question is "no"
13:33<variable_>well i downloaded it and it what it is skype-debian_4.0.0.8-1_amd64.deb
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13:33<SynrG>variable_: read what the wiki says about that
13:33<SynrG>"Skype also offers a amd64 package. However, this package depends on amd64 packages of i386 libraries (lib32*, ia32*) which will (hopefully) go away sooner or later. "
13:33<SynrG>zeptis: apparently the opposite
13:34<retrospectacus>pretty sure it's not actually a 64-bit program, judging by your errors. Just read the wiki
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13:36<variable_>i can install and teamviewer because of lib32*, ia32*
13:36<SynrG>variable_: so, follow "Multi-Arch". looks like you've selected the "Non-Multi-Arch" way which is now apparently *only* applicable to squeeze
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13:36<variable_>i have sid
13:36<SynrG>yes. and?
13:37<variable_>so i thing i'm doomed
13:37<SynrG>uh?
13:37<SynrG>no
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13:38<variable_>i did try with multi-arch but with no luck
13:38<zeptis>did you try "dpkg --add-architechure i386" like Retro suggested?
13:38<SynrG>variable_: since when? you reported dpkg --print-foreign-architectures said nothing
13:38<SynrG>this indicates you did *not* do the multi-arch way
13:38<retrospectacus>variable_: just follow the wiki and it should work. If something fails make a pastebin. Don't just assume it won't work...
13:39<variable_>ok it was when i reinstalled whole system :)
13:39<variable_>ok i'll try
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13:43<variable_>http://paste.debian.net/189586/
13:43<variable_>it suggest to remove skype :0
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13:44<variable_>so shuld i do "yes" or "no"
13:44<SynrG>temporarily, sure
13:45<SynrG>once your i386 packages are all sorted out, try re-installing it as per wiki instructions
13:45<SynrG>it should go better for you
13:45<variable_>ok
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13:50<variable_>what is this http://paste.debian.net/189588/ for
13:52<zeptis>Is that from wget?
13:53<variable_>no it's after i confirm to install all those 368 libs
13:54<SynrG>that included a bunch of ldap things, one of which probably triggers this in a postinst
13:55<variable_>so what i have to write?
13:56<retrospectacus>you installed those things, you should know what your ldap server is
13:56<SynrG>well, it seems to have a default value there, so just press enter unless you know it should be pointing elsewhere?
13:57<SynrG>sorry, not in a postinst, i mean in a .config
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13:58<madduck>A friend in Laos needs a web page for his guest house. He is illiterate. Can you recommand a hoster with a wizard-style homepage creator that is easy to use, inexpensive, and English-spoken?
13:58<madduck></lazyweb> ;)
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13:59<retrospectacus>wordpress
14:00<madduck>seriously? Isn't that a blog?
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14:01<retrospectacus>you can make a boring site with pages, or whatever. It doesn't have to be a blog
14:01<SynrG>madduck: apparently http://codex.wordpress.org/Creating_a_Static_Front_Page would do that
14:02<SynrG>hmm, or http://en.support.wordpress.com/pages/front-page/
14:02<retrospectacus>it's really easy... although if he's illiterate... maybe not so much
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14:03<SynrG>that one even has an instructional video
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14:03<madduck>yeah, I don't think he knows anything about the web and his english isn't great. But I do not want to become webmaster…
14:04<variable_>ok, i did installthose 368 libs so what i have to do next? I have to install skype again?
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14:04<zeptis>madduck: I'm curious, is the hotel in Vieng Vang or Vientiane?
14:04<retrospectacus>variable_: well, try the dpkg --print-foreign-architectures thing again, if that's good proceed with the directions on the wiki
14:04<SynrG>variable_: that was the plan, yes ...
14:04<madduck>zeptis: neither ;_)
14:05<variable_>print i386
14:05<madduck>zeptis: Khonetai, Donkhone, 4000 Islands, Southern Laos (*beautiful*)
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14:08<SynrG>variable_: the significance of what you said last is lost on me ... are you just reporting --print-architectures now reports i386? if so, you're proceeding with the install for multi-arch as per the wiki, right? see us if you have further problems (and try to give enough info so we can help :)
14:08<variable_>http://paste.debian.net/189591/ i don't get it
14:08<SynrG>you're still not doing it properly
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14:08<SynrG>install for multi-arch. you are *still* following the non-multi-arch instructions
14:09<zeptis>madduck: have you looked into this for page creation? http://www.lifeyo.com
14:10<variable_>:) no, i do what it is written "# dpkg -i skype-install.deb" "If you then proceed with " # apt-get install -f
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14:10<variable_>then "quite a few i386 packages will be installed. "
14:10<variable_>i think this is of multi-arch section
14:11<SynrG>uh, no
14:11<SynrG>that paste says:
14:11<SynrG>dpkg -i skype-debian_4.0.0.8-1_amd64.deb
14:11*dpkg installs skype-debian_4.0.0.8-1_amd64.deb into synrg's head with a bone saw and a few screws
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14:11<SynrG>the instructions as written say "dpkg -i skype-install.deb"
14:11<SynrG>where is that command in your paste?
14:11<variable_>aaaaa! :)
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14:12<SynrG>also, remove the skype you half-installed
14:12<SynrG>that's not going to help
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14:16<variable_>SynrG, i bow to you ;) big big thank you =]
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14:27<SynrG>variable_: glad to be able to help
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14:28<zeptis>Would anyone mind checking this mplayer config and tell me how I'm being dense? My current config, and what I've tried so far, is as follows: http://pastebin.com/eKh1Bsxw
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14:29<zeptis>Gnome-mplayer is my current frontend, and I want it to go from one file to the next in my playlist, but it stops after every file currently.
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14:31<zeptis>is there a channel for media related issues, maybe?
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15:17<brando>guys how do I change my resolution if after boot my monitor cant use the resolution and all i can access is grub?
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15:21<tale>brando: Display resolution should be detected automatically. What is the resolution you want to use?
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15:22<brando>1280x1024
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15:22<brando>but when it boots monitor just says please adjust display resolution
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15:23<CookAnEgg>Bye !
15:23<tale>brando: Do you have an xorg.conf file in /etc/X11 directory?
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15:24<brando>wouldnt know I cant get to a terminal
15:24<tale>brando: Did this happen directly after installation, or did you already change the display settings?
15:24<brando>directly after
15:24<tale>brando: You can get to console by choosing the failsafe mode in GRUB.
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15:24<brando>same problem though
15:25<brando>I tried that
15:25<tale>brando: Then make xorg.conf and set the desired resolution there.
15:26<tale>brando: Have you tried adjusting the monitor? Maybe it can adapt to the resolution the computer sends?
15:26<brando>tried that aswell ;_;
15:26<tale>brando: What version of Debian are you using?
15:27<brando>wheezy
15:27<tale>brando: If you already have tried all the usual stuff, state that and ask what you want to know.
15:27<tale>brando: Wheezy is debian next, There is a channel for that.
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15:28<brando>ooh, I just git access to the terminal
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15:29<tale>!tell brando about debian-next
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17:03<haylo>is it permissible to call xfce a WM? or does it have to be referred to as a DE? desktop enviornmant
17:05<haylo>i just got trolled really badly over this. and if i am incorrect i would like to at least learn from my mistake.
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17:06<vook>xfwm is a window manager
17:06<retrospectacus>xfce is a DE
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17:07<haylo>i see yeah, i am reading about it
17:07<haylo>thanks guys
17:08<vook>For a cron job that runs every other hour on the half hour, is "30 */1 * * *" the same as "30 0-23/1 * * *"?
17:08<vook>sorry- I meant "30 */2 * * *" the same as "30 0-23/2 * * *"?
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17:11<nadir>if you install xfce4 after installation, installing xfce4-goodies might give you more of the "its a DE" - feeling.
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17:20<retrospectacus>vook: 30 */2 * * * is good, not sure about 30 0-23/2 * * * ... but crontab verifies it, so if it doesn't complain it should be fine
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17:21<dondelelcaro>retrospectacus: that's the same thing, so it's fine.
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17:22<retrospectacus>I'd say so
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17:52<gruetzkopf>hey, i have problems with cmake not locating wxwidgets on my machine
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17:56<abrotman>gruetzkopf: did you install the -dev packages?
17:56<gruetzkopf>of course :)
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17:57<abrotman>and the error is ?
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17:58<gruetzkopf>hmm. the wx docs say to create a symlink from /usr/include/wx to a actual version. that seems wrong somehow
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18:00<abrotman>the what docs?
18:00<abrotman>i'm still waiting for an error
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18:02<gruetzkopf>the wxwidgets documentation
18:03<gruetzkopf>the error was the paths for WX not appearing in the cmake output and the build failing because of missing includes
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18:12<abrotman>i'd rather see the real error ...
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18:16<antgel>hello everybody
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18:16<retrospectacus>hey antgel
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18:17<antgel>i'm having a hell of a time with the binary nvidia driver. nouveau gives me nothing but a blank screen (i suspect kms but who knows)
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18:18<antgel>card is a geforce 6150SE. tried xserver-xorg-video-nvidia and that was a fail. then saw the legacy packages so decided to go for that as the card is fairly old by pc standards
18:19<antgel>installed nvidia-kernel-legacy-173xx-dkms, loaded the module, did update-alternatives --config nvidia and set that to the relevant version
18:19<antgel>now i get this:
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18:20<antgel>http://pastebin.com/B5VLS9Rg
18:20<antgel>any clues?
18:21<Apollo>do you have the glx module installed?
18:21<antgel>also see http://pastebin.com/wrqnNA9d - i've tried options 0 and 2
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18:21<antgel>Apollo: see ^^ :)
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18:21<vook>is libglx.so a valid and correct symbolic link ?
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18:23<antgel>vook: hi, it would seem to be http://pastebin.com/3uFE51HX
18:23<antgel>unless i have missed something
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18:23<antgel>this is so annoying. i ripped out a radeon card which didn't work with current fglrx or radeon, thought i'll just use the onboard card, save energy etc. no luck whatsoever with these drivers
18:24<Apollo>it's looking for libglcore
18:24<antgel>i can even cat /usr/lib/xorg/modules/linux/libglx.so (don't try this at home kids :) )
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18:24<vook>gosh, I know it's not debian kosher to recommend this, but the binary installers from nvidia.com always work well for me. I think I have 6150 working properly somewhere.
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18:26<vook>I have a 6200 - it used NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-173.14.31-pkg2.run
18:26<Apollo>antgel: can you ls /usr/lib/libglcore.so.1
18:27<antgel>Apollo: no such file or directory!
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18:27<Apollo>and /usr/lib/libGLcore.so.1
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18:28<antgel>Apollo: nope. yet libgl1-nvidia-legacy-173xx-glx is installed which provides it in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/nvidia/legacy-173xx/libGLcore.so.1
18:28<sney>!why nvidia installer sucks
18:28<dpkg>nvidia-installer works fine for you today, granted. Let's say tomorrow Xorg is updated -- the nvidia driver will break. If you try to uninstall nvidia (nvidia-installer --uninstall), then you break Xorg badly. nvidia-installer overwrites files at random, and has NO CONCEPT of package management. We recommend against using it based on extensive experience. USE THE DEBIAN PACKAGES. Ask me about <nvidia>.
18:29<sney>Vook: ^
18:29<abrotman>or use !tell ...
18:29<antgel>sney: but i did and it still sucks!
18:29<antgel>abrotman: ABORT-MAN! :D (hi)
18:29<Apollo>odd
18:29<Apollo>http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=libGLcore.so.1&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=stable&arch=i386
18:29<Apollo>claims that's where it should be
18:30<vook>Yes, I understand - clearly though the alternative doesn't always work very well either, as we see with antgel.
18:30<Apollo>antgel: try dpkg-reconfigure the libgl package?
18:30<antgel>Apollo: right
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18:31<antgel>Apollo: done, and now?
18:31<antgel>there is another thing i'd like to point out (not sure if it's important)
18:31<antgel>for some reason, dkms didn't install the nvidia module in /lib/modules/blah
18:31<Apollo>did it promp anything? what was the output
18:31<antgel>Apollo: no output
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18:32<antgel>i had to do a insmod /var/lib/dkms/nvidia/173.14.35/3.2.0-3-amd64/x86_64/module/nvidia.ko
18:32<Apollo>and nothing /usr/lib
18:32<vook>yes, that statement isn't really correct - nvidia may break upon the update of xorg, but doesn't always - I only have to run it again when I update a kernel.
18:32<antgel>i'm starting to think i'm the only person using these legacy packages
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18:34<antgel>Apollo: yep, no effect on /usr/lib
18:34<Apollo>you could maybe manually link the module
18:34<Apollo>see what happens
18:36<abrotman>antgel: hello
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18:36<antgel>Apollo: nothing to lose
18:37<antgel>do i need a depmod -a after?
18:37<Apollo>since it appears your install went awry
18:37<Apollo>antgel: might as well I guess
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18:44<antgel>Apollo: it's now looking for libnvidia-tls.so.1. i think i'll have to try reinstalling these packages
18:44<antgel>apt-get --reinstall as i recall
18:46<devil>install --reinstall...
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18:46<Apollo>looks like a good idea
18:47<antgel>devil: thank
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18:48<ceeregz>what is this for?
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18:52<antgel>okay, i got http://pastebin.com/w87nrAW9 which was vaguely interesting
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18:53<antgel>reinstalled nvidia-kernel-legacy-173xx-dkms and libgl1-nvidia-legacy-173xx-glx
18:53<antgel>no errors!
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18:53<antgel>nothing on the screen either
18:54<antgel>i'll reboot, see if a DM comes up
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18:58<Kaiser92>hi
18:58<Kaiser92>is there anyone?
18:58<antgel>WE HAZ SCREENZ!
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18:58<antgel>Apollo++ #thanks to everyone who chipped in
18:58<scientes>antgel++
18:59<Kaiser92>i need help about some crashes i meet on my ubuntu studio version
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18:59<retrospectacus>!ubuntuirc Kaiser92
18:59<dpkg>Kaiser92: This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server chat.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://chat.freenode.net/ubuntu
18:59<Kaiser92>tks
19:00<Apollo>antgel: you're welcome
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19:30<root_732>hi
19:30<retrospectacus>hi
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22:18<insigne>hi
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22:19<insigne>oi
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22:19<insigne>algm ai?
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22:20<abrotman>!br
22:20<dpkg>Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues.
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23:12<rupinder>hello
23:13<rupinder>anyone here
23:14<abrotman>Many people
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23:15<Guest6890>anyone know where i can read about debian to xbox 360 streaming ?
23:15<rupinder>thats good
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23:16<akbrsyd>hey
23:16<akbrsyd>gmorning
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23:16<Guest6890>hi
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23:37<sney>Guest6890: mediatomb (in debian repos) and ps3 media server (java standalone) both work ok in my experience. I haven't seen any dedicated howtos though
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23:38<Flimzy>Is there a best practice on a bind9 _slave_ server for handling multiple identical domains? I have 32 spellings/misspellings of the same domain registered. Creating the master configuration to point all zones to the same master file is easy. What's the way to do this on the slave?
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23:45<noah>join #ubuntu
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23:45<noah>Is roasted still here?
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23:47<noah>Is anyone there? I'm having trouble after the new 12.04 update to ubuntu... My every time I resume after a system suspend my screen is frozen (except for the mouse)
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23:59<blarson>!tell noah about ubuntu
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