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#debian IRC Logs for 2012-09-22

---Logopened Sat Sep 22 00:00:09 2012
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00:34<node3667>hello, looking for an old X11 game, 2D, where you can transform into an alien, main goal is staying alive
00:34<node3667>you can have grenades
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00:41<node3667>xevil !
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02:08<sean-m>hello room
02:08<sean-m>how's it going tonight?
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02:11<AlexLikeRock>hellow
02:11<AlexLikeRock>good
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02:15<Eryn_1983_FL>hey peeps
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02:17<Eryn_1983_FL>i am trying to work with dfs roots and i cant seem to get mount to mount them,
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03:22<okarin>hi
03:22<okarin>i just installed debian and i think i need help with configuring automounting
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03:33<Osiris_X>I have set RAMTMP=yes in /etc/default/tmpfs but I still see no tmpfs mount for /tmp. In addition /dev/shm still seems to be mounted when it should be /run/shm - any ideas as to how I fix this. (N.B I am running systemd)
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03:51<devil>okarin: do you have a question?
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04:50<Guest7877>Hallo, hat jemand Erfahrungen mit xBee ?
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05:05<variable_>hot to disable screen lock?
05:05<roughnecks>look at your screensaver options
05:05<variable_>i did
05:06<variable_>and i disabled it but screen still locks after some time
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05:12<devil>xset -dpms, xset s off
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05:14<kbmaniac>Installed 64bit wheezy, looking good but having nvidia issues, stopping suspend/hibernate & seems slow ... will nvidia be updated before stable or do I have to look at installing latest from nvidia website (rather not) ?
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05:15<babilen>variable_: Is it being locked in the sense that you have to enter your password to unlock it? Do you use a desktop environment? If that is the case which environment do you use? Can you tell us more about your setup (e.g. I use window manager FOO and run screensaver BAR ...)
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05:15<variable_>Yes, i have to enter a passwor
05:15<variable_>i have gnome
05:16<babilen>kbmaniac: You might want to ask in #debian-next -- The nvidia version in wheezy will probably stay, but you can install 304.?? from sid easily. (/msg dpkg tum) Are you sure that your problems are related to the nvidia driver version?
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05:16<babilen>variable_: And you configured the screensaver to not lock the screen?
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05:17<ectospasm>I found the gnome-screensaver to be wonky
05:17<babilen>oh, tel, brb
05:17<variable_>I found there is some brightness option where is lock option, so i did turned off
05:17<ectospasm>...as in, didn't behave as desired
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05:18<variable_>but there is another option "Turn screen off when inactive for :" this is odd, because there is not turn of this option
05:18<variable_>maximum time to turn of screen is 1h.
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05:19<kbmaniac>babilen: OK thanks for the heads up - pretty sure on the suspend / hibernate issue ... will give it a go, thanks again
05:19<ectospasm>I found the GUI configuration options for GNOME to be lacking... which is probably one of the reasons I don't use it anymore (as of about two weeks ago)
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06:03<solstis>please suggest a soulseek client
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06:05<devil>nicotine, musetup-qt, murmur ...
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06:08<solstis>thanks
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07:26<Osiris_X>in debian wheezy should /tmp partition be mounted with noexec and nosuid?
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07:31<daemonkeeper>Osiris_X: Not only in Wheezy.
07:31<Osiris_X>ok thanks daemonkeeper
07:32<daemonkeeper>You may also want to use a tmpfs.
07:33<Osiris_X>daemonkeeper: yes, I've just realised that systemd doesn't honour /etc/default/tmpfs - so I have to create a mount point in /etc/fstab
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08:35<michele_>!list
08:35<dpkg>michele_: Debian è un sistema operativo composto di software libero non quella gratis. Vedi http://www.debian.org/intro/free.it.html per sapere di più.
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09:35<Patagonicus>Hi there. New to debian 6.0.5 coming from Gentoo. I noticed that dhclient doesn't send the hostname and adding 'send host-name
09:35<Patagonicus>'send host-name "foobar";' to /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf didn't help either. Any other things I could try?
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09:50<haylo>Patagonicus: usually debian auto detects dhcp, but when i have to do it myself I always just 'dhclcient eth0'
09:52<pato83>hi, i have my laptop as a router with three interfaces and using dnsmasq for dhcp as well as dns. These interfaces are wlan0, wlan1 and eth0. I am conected to the internet through wlan0. On wlan1 has ip adress 192.168.100.1 and serve adresses in rande 192.168.100.100 - 192.168.100.200 based on mac. eth0 has 192.168.101.1 and its client 192.168.101.2 based on mac is given either hostname and ip address. DHCP works great but when it comes to pinging it fails.
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10:02<Patagonicus>haylo: DHCP works, the client just doesn't send a hostname and therefore the DNS server doesn't have an entry for the box. On Gentoo I always used dhcpcd which sends the hostname by default, dhclient seems to need an option for that (there are a few notes about that on the net), but I can't get it to work
10:03<haylo>man dhcp, i see a -s flag
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10:05<haylo>sorry i mean 'man dhclient'
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10:10<haylo>also i just installed dhcpcd and it does exactly what you are talking about. and if you read its man page it tells how it over riding the default variable
10:10<Patagonicus>In the version of dhclient I have the -s flag is for specifying a DHCP server adress …
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10:10<Patagonicus>How do I get init scripts to use dhcpcd? Are there any docs on that?
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10:13<haylo>says in dhcpcd manpages it sets the name unless: ifup or
10:13<haylo> /etc/default/dhcpcd or SET_HOSTNAME is configured
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10:14<Patagonicus>haylo: I'm not talking about configuring dhcpcd but /etc/init.d/networking. How do I get that script to use dhcpcd instead of dhclient?
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10:17<Patagonicus>Or, rather /etc/network/interfaces. According to the man page dhclient takes precedence over dhcpcd but there is no indication on how to change that order. Do I have to uninstall dhclient just to make it use dhcpcd? o.O
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10:17<siddy>hi, can someone help me set the time clock?
10:18<siddy>i noticed tzdata
10:18<siddy>is that what I use?
10:18<siddy>if so, how to do it in CLI since xfce has no gui?
10:19<weasel>is your timezone wrong or is the clock wrong?
10:19<siddy>clock is wrong, for suer
10:19<siddy>sure
10:19<siddy>date is correct
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10:20<weasel>what does 'date -u' say? what does 'date' say?
10:20<siddy>I might have chose the wrong time zone?
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10:20<siddy>$ date Sat Sep 22 14:14:27 UTC 2012
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10:21<siddy>date -u
10:21<siddy>Sat Sep 22 14:21:04 UTC 2012
10:21<weasel>so your clock is right.
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10:21<weasel>what should your local time and timezone be?
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10:21<haylo>siddy: 'date' sets the time zone and hour etc.'date [MMDDhhmm[[CC]YY][.ss]]
10:22<haylo>CC is country code, and .ss is seconds i think
10:22<siddy>Standard time zone: UTC/GMT -5 hours
10:22<weasel>that's wrong.
10:22<weasel>siddy: so you're in canada, eh?
10:22<siddy>Current time zone offset: UTC/GMT -4 hours
10:22<siddy>yeah
10:22<weasel>siddy: as root, run dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
10:23<siddy>I noticed that with a google search
10:23<siddy>so, it's a good method?
10:23<weasel>it's the method to configure the timezone that your system runs in.
10:23<haylo>do what weasel said. it sounds right
10:23<siddy>right
10:24<siddy>I've used ntp before, too... but, I forget how :)
10:24<haylo>and debian specific
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10:24<siddy>ok, thanks
10:24<weasel>siddy: ntp is good too. but it only sets the clock. your clock already is correct.
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10:24<siddy>for some reason, my debian installs always have the wrong time... I must be doing something wrong
10:24<siddy>ok, I get it
10:25<siddy>how did you check?
10:25<weasel>you told us.
10:25<weasel>Sat 16:21:19 <siddy> Sat Sep 22 14:21:04 UTC 2012
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10:25<haylo>in the end of install it asks you if the clock is set to UTC, i have to remember to say "no"
10:25<weasel>that was indeed to correct time for UTC.
10:25<siddy>yes, but then you asked for date -u
10:25<weasel>so your system time is correct. UTC is what everything runs on.
10:25<weasel>it's only that it displays you something that is not correct for your location.
10:25<siddy>yes, I understand that part :)
10:26<siddy>ah, I see
10:26<weasel>and that's there the timezone part comes in. tell the system what timezone you'd like to be, and it should all be right
10:26<siddy>I think there was two for 'Eastern' and I choose 'Eastern' so I should have chosen the other one
10:26<weasel>you can pick a location, can't you?
10:26<siddy>ok, I'll run that program
10:27<haylo>you must have chosen eatern tibet or something
10:27<siddy>I did... I picked a local city
10:27<weasel>set it to America/Toronto or something
10:27<siddy>I always do but somehow
10:27<siddy>I do :(
10:27<weasel>root@valiant:~# dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
10:27<weasel>Current default time zone: 'America/Toronto'
10:27<weasel>Local time is now: Sat Sep 22 10:27:15 EDT 2012.
10:27<weasel>Universal Time is now: Sat Sep 22 14:27:15 UTC 2012.
10:28<siddy>fixed
10:28<siddy>weasel, thanks
10:29<weasel>so, does 'date' give you the correct local time now?
10:29<siddy>yep
10:29<weasel>yay
10:29<siddy>:)
10:29<weasel>install ntp too, if you haven't already
10:29<siddy>ok
10:29<siddy>how do I check packages? apt-cache ?
10:29<siddy>I usually use synaptic
10:29<weasel>check what
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10:30<haylo>i like to use 'aptitude' to browse packages i have installed, or dont have installed
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10:30<siddy>to see if a package is installed
10:30<weasel>dpkg -l ntp
10:30<dpkg>ii ntp 2.6-13.1 ultra s3kr1t #debian package
10:30<siddy>well, ntp is installed
10:30<siddy>oh
10:31<weasel>or apt-cache policy, but that's tells you more.
10:31<weasel>or just apt-get install ntp, it'll tell you :)
10:31<siddy>ii ntp 1:4.2.6.p5+dfs Network Time Protocol daemon and utility pro
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10:32<weasel>you should know these things if you run testing or unstable :)
10:33<siddy>I know :-/ :)
10:33<siddy>when I ran stable... I'd always run into issues in which a version wasn't current enough or it needed a later version
10:34<siddy>even when I used backports
10:34<siddy>so, I tried testing and I read someplace that sid is a bit easier to track or work with
10:35<siddy>it will force me to learn and to use cli more... which I need experience with :)
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10:35<siddy>too many yrs using crapbuntu, mint and mepis which often has gui alternatives :)
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10:43<duarte>ola
10:43<Matt`>how do I completely remove a package so it reinstalls properly?
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10:48<agaida>apt-get purge?
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10:48<Matt`>doesn't work
10:49<Matt`>trying to reinstall mysql but...
10:49<Matt`>Setting up mysql-server-5.5 (5.5.27-1~dotdeb.0) ...
10:49<Matt`>invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/mysql not found.
10:49<agaida>dont use dotdeb?
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10:50<Matt`>it worked fine the first time it was installed
10:52<agaida>i dont know dotdeb. But i would use mysql-server-5.5 from the debian repos if i would use mysql
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10:53<agaida>the chance, that this will work reliable is much bigger
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10:57<Matt`>E: Unable to locate package mysql-server-5.5
10:58<agaida>mysql-server-5.5 5.5.24+dfsg-8 testing http.debian.net
10:58<agaida>mysql-server-5.5 5.5.24+dfsg-8 sid http.debian.net
10:58<agaida>mysql-server-5.5 5.5.25+dfsg-1 experimental http.debian.net
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10:58<ompaul>Matt`: why do you need 5.5
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10:58<ompaul>agaida: much easier to do ,versions foo
10:59<ompaul>bot takes care of it
10:59<agaida>thank you
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10:59<ompaul>you're welcome
10:59<Matt`>why wouldn't I use 5.5?
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10:59<ompaul>,versions mysql-server
10:59<judd>Package: mysql-server on i386 -- lenny: 5.0.51a-24+lenny5; lenny-security: 5.0.51a-24+lenny5; lenny-backports: 5.1.49-3~bpo50+1; squeeze: 5.1.49-3; squeeze-security: 5.1.63-0+squeeze1; sid: 5.5.24+dfsg-8; wheezy: 5.5.24+dfsg-8; experimental: 5.5.25+dfsg-1
11:00<ompaul>because you could be running squeeze and there you get a stable release with security patches
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11:00<ompaul>squeeze is the current debian stable
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11:01<ompaul>if you want to run testing (as it's name implies) or unstable (same again) please do so, but you don't get to complain if the house comes crashing around your ears
11:02<ompaul>wheezy and sid are testing and unstable respectively
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11:02<ompaul>experimental - lets not even go there
11:02<Matt`>i'm on Debian 6.0.5
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11:02<agaida>and if you think you need 5.5 for performance reasons - try to configure 5.1 the right way. That should give you a boost.
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11:03<ompaul>so your expected package is 5.1, now I'll ask again why do you need 5.5
11:03<Matt`>i've been using 5.5 for a year
11:03<ompaul>your db won't work on 5.1? or something else
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11:04<Matt`>no, that's just what was installed when I ran "apt-get install mysql-server" :/
11:04<ompaul>on what box?
11:05<ompaul>not on your debian box without you doing something that might leave people who know how debian works scratching their heads ;-)
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11:05<agaida>i would bet there is a dotdeb.list in /etc/apt/sources-list.d
11:05<Matt`>yeah
11:05<ompaul>!dotdeb
11:05<dpkg>Dotdeb (http://dotdeb.org/) is an unofficial package repository with emphasis on the <LAMP> solution stack. Dotdeb packages are unsupported in #debian. The packages from backports.debian.org are vastly superior, ask me about <bdo>. To remove Dotdeb packages: "aptitude purge '~Vdotdeb'".
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11:06<Matt`>:O
11:07<Valamir>!R
11:07<dpkg>R is a powerful language based on S, primarily used for statistics. It is well suited for dealing with large sets of numbers in matrices and/or vectors. To install: "aptitude -r install r-base". http://wiki.debian.org/R http://wiki.debian.org/DebianScience/R http://www.r-project.org/ #r on irc.freenode.net. And it's "are", not "r". See also <plotting>.
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11:08<ompaul>Matt`: question, are you on 6.0.5 and your 5.5 disappeared?
11:08<ompaul>or is it a clean install or why do you want mysql in the second and first place :)
11:08<haylo>Matt`: do you know how to get debian packages from the backports repository, if you need more recent versions of a particular package?
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11:09<ompaul>Matt`: the bad news is there is no backport of mysql-server, my questions are aimed at trying to understand your requirement
11:10<ompaul>Matt`: i.e. why you need that particular db
11:10<Matt`>I'm on 6.0.5, i'm trying to test TokuDB
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11:11<Matt`>my main server has used mysql 5.5 for over a year, so naturally that's what I installed to test it on
11:12<ompaul>Matt`: one question, http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/table-size-limit.html have you looked at that page?
11:13<Matt`>yes, why?
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11:14<ompaul>Matt`: mysql generally has all the answers you want, bundling it with other stuff will bite you in the long term as deltas or support get in the way of each other and your custom build goes the way of the dinosaurs
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11:15<ompaul>Matt`: it mentions scaling, and a little more reading and you'd have the performance that you want ime
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11:16<ompaul>Matt`: and for scaling http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2011/05/ext2-ext3-ext4/ that's useful also
11:17<ompaul>Matt`: what's the db behind
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11:17<ompaul>web / other tool
11:17<Matt`>a website
11:17<Matt`>about 450m rows
11:18<ompaul>nice and current data size?
11:18<Matt`>~22GB
11:18<ompaul>fine you don't need to worry about TB just yet :)
11:19<Matt`>it's the performance I need
11:19<ompaul>you need to tune your mysql
11:19<ompaul>http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/server-parameters.html
11:20<agaida>Matt`: how big is your ram?
11:20<Matt`>24GB
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11:20<ompaul>what does free show?
11:20<Matt`>http://pastebin.com/tsxJKdmY
11:21<ompaul>it's not stressing too much
11:21<ompaul>its stressed but not too much #
11:21<agaida>ups
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11:21<ompaul>you are using a gig
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11:22<agaida>if you have so much ram - why do you dont use it
11:22<Matt`>oh wait
11:22<Matt`>lol, that's from my test server xD
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11:22<ompaul>Matt`: the classic I'm not looking where I should be typo :)
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11:23<Matt`>here: http://pastebin.com/PJUiRPW0
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11:23<Matt`>mysql was restarted a few hours ago
11:23<babilen>!free memory
11:23<dpkg>Unlike information, your computer's memory does *not* want to be free. Free RAM is wasted RAM! Linux tries to use free physical memory for caching files from disk which speeds up disk access considerably. Linux releases RAM from these caches if programs need it. If you want to know how much physical memory the free(1) tool says you have left for program use, it's 'free' + 'buffers' + 'cache'. Also ask me about <swapwake>.
11:24<ompaul>babilen: its a lovely 450m row db
11:25<Matt`>one of the tables is 400m, 20GB
11:25<ompaul>Matt`: it seems that your pastebin might be a bit funky on the bottom line
11:25<babilen>ompaul: I've seen it -- and I am not surprised that a lot of files are being buffered in that case.
11:25<ompaul>babilen: POINT
11:25<ompaul>woops
11:25<ompaul>Matt`: one table ... didn't you guys ever hear of views
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11:26<babilen>!tell Matt` -about pastebin.com
11:26<babilen>fwiw
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11:26<ompaul>the paste is broken ... it's missing total swap size or I'm missing something
11:27<Matt`>oh
11:27<Matt`>http://paste.debian.net/191910/
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11:27<agaida>i think a little bit more ram would help a lot.
11:28<ompaul>why have you only half a gig of swap
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11:28<ompaul>is this in a vps?
11:28<Matt`>dedicated
11:28<Matt`>i can't get more ram without a big jump in price
11:28<ompaul>dude get a bigger box seriously make it ready and port your work to it
11:29<agaida>+1
11:29<ompaul>Matt`: and spend some time with the mysql tuning info - it's either worth the effort or its not
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11:30<babilen>(and migrate to psql as well) ;)
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11:30<agaida>http://www.mysqlperformanceblog.com/ has some nice readings
11:30<Matt`>i've ran tuning scripts and adjusted what it says
11:30<ompaul>babilen: we don't suggest miracles here just practical stuff :)
11:31<agaida>but the biggest performance boost will be more ram
11:31<ompaul>Matt`: increase your ram and increase your swap space (by a factor of at least one of your ram)
11:31<ompaul>this is not windows
11:31<Matt`>my problem is table locking on inserts to the 20GB table
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11:32<agaida>rework the structure.
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11:32<ompaul>Matt`: then you can't have a 20GB table that gets locked
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11:32<babilen>Matt`: I would also recommend to discuss this in #mysql on irc.freenode.net -- They probably have a bot that can throw a number of relevant links at you.
11:33<ompaul>Matt`: there is a great phrase, sometimes there is great freedom in having no choice.
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11:33<ompaul>you have reached the limits of the laws of physics or are very close to them
11:33<Matt`>which is why I'm testing TokuDB
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11:34<ompaul>Matt`: that's not the solution, the solution is doing what you were told
11:34<Matt`>how is it not the solution?
11:34<ompaul>if you require to lock 20GB you require to lock it
11:35<Matt`>no, i need to use an engine that doesn't use table-level locking
11:35<ompaul>did you see agaida's comment, rework design / structure
11:35<ompaul>that will allow you run it much more effectively
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11:35<agaida>than have a look at xtra-db-engine. But that would not solve your problems
11:36<Matt`>when the table isn't being written to, it's fast as hell
11:36<ompaul>cos it is almost all in ram
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11:37<Matt`>yeah, and if I use InnoDB/XtraDB, it'll be about double the filesize
11:37<Matt`>and InnDB sucks at count(*), we run a lot of statistics
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11:37<rolson>Matt`, use count(0)
11:37<rolson>why does the default package for snmp not include any mibs?
11:38<agaida>get enough ram or rework your structure. the people at percona run databases wich are a litte bit bigger.
11:38<Matt`>I can't do wither
11:38<Matt`>either*
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11:38<agaida>a nice testing environment was a machine with 320 G ram or so
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11:39<ompaul>Matt`: maybe you need to spend money on bandwidth and a different colo
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11:40<Matt`>no
11:40<Matt`>i need to know how to reinstall mysql xD
11:40<Matt`>i could have had debian reinstalled by now xD
11:40<rolson>Matt`, sudo apt-get reinstall mysql-server
11:40<rolson>Matt`, sorry I came in late, but what is your problem exactly?
11:41<Matt`>screwed with mysql, need to reinstall it
11:41<rolson>Matt`, define screwed
11:41<Matt`>but it's not fully reinstalling
11:42<rolson>Matt`, what is the error you get then
11:42<Matt`>mysqld: unrecognized service
11:42<rolson>Matt`, what are you typing? service mysql start or something?
11:42<Matt`>yeah
11:43<rolson>Matt`, it sounds like the init.d script is not there or something. How did you install mysql? via apt or from source?
11:43<blubberdiblub>rolson, he installed an unsupported mysql package. from dotdeb. and now he wants to reinstall (hopefully a supported package)
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11:43<AlexLikeRock> i add a video board (with nvidia chip) on the mother board (whit intel video chip), now i can work on the new VGA on
11:43<rolson>blubberdiblub, thanks :) I see. Well it seems that the script in /etc/init.d is either names something other than mysql, e.g. mysql-server
11:43<AlexLikeRock>my pc detec the new coccion (video board), but don detec VGA on Mother Board
11:43<rolson>or it doesn't exist
11:43<Matt`>-bash: /etc/init.d/mysql: No such file or directory
11:44<Matt`>doesn't exist
11:44<rolson>Matt`, right, so it doesn't. can you do this: find /etc/init.d/ -name '*mysql*'
11:45<Ichabod>AlexLikeRock: most motherboards do not support having both a GPU and onboard video running at the same time afaik
11:45<Ichabod>rolson: the mibs are in nother package, I think it was done after a discussion about licenses
11:46<rolson>Ichabod, thanks, but why is it crippled by default after installing the other package? There was a line in the config file that basically says, "uncomment this to allow mibs to be loaded"
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11:46<Ichabod>rolson: no idea really
11:46<Matt`>ah, i got it
11:46<Matt`>i had to symlink the init.d script for TokuDB
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11:47<AlexLikeRock>ichabod , its correct , but i need to detec ; the monitor , not the old (video chip)
11:47<rolson>Ichabod, and what irritates me about this is that it is a multi-step process, and I can't for the life of me figure out what the point of having a crippled snmp package available. What can you do with snmp without having any mibs in the first place?
11:47<Matt`>deleted it and it's replaced by the myslq-server install now
11:47<rolson>Matt`, cool, good to hear
11:47<rolson>Matt`, can mysql start now?
11:47<Matt`>yep ^_^
11:47<rolson>Matt`, no data loss or other issues?
11:47<Matt`>it's a test server, there was no data
11:48<Ichabod>AlexLikeRock: I have a hard time understanding anything you're saying
11:48<rolson>Matt`, oh alright then, glad you got it working.
11:48<AlexLikeRock>i am on system setings ---> displays, and not appear my monitor conect to mothear board
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11:48<Ichabod>rolson: I have no clue how the packaging decissions are done for debian
11:48<rolson>Ichabod, ok :)
11:48<Ichabod>AlexLikeRock: if your GPU is enabled, your monitor can't be detected since the GPU is enabled
11:49<Ichabod>rolson: it's easy enough to apt-get install snmp-mibs-downloader
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11:50<rolson>Ichabod, and after you do that, there's yet another step... uncommenting the line in the config file to allow loading of them. I wasted almost 2 hours until I ran it through strace and happened to catch this :(
11:50<AlexLikeRock>on windows , work, why on gnu-linux not?
11:51<rolson>AlexLikeRock, I'm having a little difficulty understanding your problem; do you have 2 monitors connected?
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11:52<AlexLikeRock>yes, one on mother board the second on Video board ""AGP",
11:52<rolson>AlexLikeRock, can you go to a terminal and type: xrandr
11:52<rolson>then go paste it to pastebin.com or something
11:53<rolson>and give me that link
11:53<AlexLikeRock>now the monitor on AGP, work , but dont work the mother board monitor
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11:55<blubberdiblub>there's also #debian-es - just in case ;)
11:55<AlexLikeRock>http://paste.debian.net/191916/
11:56<AlexLikeRock>no body ther on #debian-es
11:56<blubberdiblub>ah, you're already there
11:56<rolson>AlexLikeRock, xrandr is only detecting your VGA monitor. Is your other monitor DVI?
11:56<AlexLikeRock>no.,
11:57<AlexLikeRock>they a re VGA and VGA
11:57<AlexLikeRock>:-)
11:57<babilen>AlexLikeRock: Try #debian-es on irc.freenode.net as well (it is slightly larger (50 people)) if you want to.
11:57<babilen>(not that that is necessary)
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11:58<rolson>AlexLikeRock, I see. Well xrandr is only seeing one of your displays :( I would be able to help you manually set it up if it could detect the other one, but like this I don't know.
11:58<rolson>AlexLikeRock, can you make sure both cables are very securely plugged in?
11:59<blubberdiblub>and maybe that the monitor is switched on and not on standby when booting up, too
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12:02<Some_Person>I'm having trouble with plymouth. When I have it enabled, X "Failed to become DRM master", so it dumps me to tty1
12:02<Some_Person>Could anyone please help me?
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12:04<AlexLikeRock>yes, its pluggen in
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12:05<AlexLikeRock>i tigheten the screws
12:05<AlexLikeRock>ha ha ha
12:06<rolson>AlexLikeRock, power is on? xrandr still only shows 1 vga?
12:06<AlexLikeRock>yes,
12:06<birch>Is there a safe/preferred way of deconstructing an md raid to separate the disks for individual use as normal? thanks
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12:07<rolson>AlexLikeRock, I've never had a monitor not show up via xrandr if it's at all recognized. Can you switch the cables, so that the monitor that isn't working is plugged in to the video card that is working, and see if that monitor works then?
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12:11<pato83>hi, i have my laptop as a router with three interfaces and using dnsmasq for dhcp as well as dns. These interfaces are wlan0, wlan1 and eth0. I am conected to the internet through wlan0. On wlan1 has ip adress 192.168.100.1 and serve adresses in rande 192.168.100.100 - 192.168.100.200 based on mac. eth0 has 192.168.101.1 and its client 192.168.101.2
12:11<pato83> based on ma is given either hostname and ip a ddress. DHCP works great but when it comes to pinging it fails. Whether we talking about pinging between subnets or internet. It is not DNS issue, cant ping ip addresses like 8.8.8.8 from my clients. So it is not dhcp issue, neither dns. Ipv4 forwarding is enabled and also setup masquarade. Does anybody has any idea what it could be ? thank you very much.
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12:12<AlexLikeRock>when i switch , the monitor on AGP say "out of range" because the monitor are of different size
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12:21<Pe-A-cE>Welcome to #debian , Pe-A-cE !
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12:27<daemonkeeper>oO
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12:33<simonlnu>O_o is right
12:33<AlexLikeRock>Can anyone recommend me some program like "sony vegas" for gnu
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12:46<wandeson>Hello, I have a problem in compilation of source of the render program PBRT-v2. In make return message error. ERROR: /usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib/libfl_pic.a when searching for /usr/lib/libfl_pic.a /usr/bin/ld: cannot find /usr/lib/libfl_pic.a
12:46<wandeson>What is this error? What mean?
12:47<rolson>wandeson, are you on a 32 bit computer?
12:48<wandeson>64 bit
12:49<wandeson>There is compilation proccess of the source, for link library?
12:49<wandeson>rolson is bit
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12:50<rolson>wandeson, what do you get when you type: getconf LONG_BIT and objdump -f /usr/lib/libfl_pic.a
12:51<rolson>wandeson, you might want to do: objdump -f /usr/lib/libfl_pic.a | grep architecture
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12:53<wandeson>rolson : 32 bit - architeture i386
12:54<rolson>wandeson, so getconf LONG_BIT was what?
12:55<wandeson>rolson : getconf return 32
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12:56<rolson>wandeson, what processor are you on?
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12:58<wandeson>rolson : The processor is a Intel
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12:59<rolson>wandeson, did you manually install libfl_pic.a?
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13:00<wandeson>from repository debian [via DVD Debian]
13:01<wandeson>rolson : i'm intall from reposirtory debian [via DVD Debian 6.0.5]
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13:03<rolson>wandeson, I'm not sure, the incompatible issue usually means it's from the wrong architecture.
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13:03<rolson>wandeson, you're building this for i386 and not doing something else? Like cross-compiling or something?
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13:05<wandeson>rolson: I'm build native system architeture. The compiler is gcc. The error must be in the flex installation? Mean that error can be because the PC is architeture and system of the other?
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13:09<rolson>wandeson, can you put the entire process into pastebin.com and give the link or something, I'm confused because generally ld complaining about incompatible means that the platform you're building for is not right.. e.g. if you were building for another architecture but accidentally linking to a pre-existing library on your system
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13:24<thedead>Hi all. I'm currently installing debian on an acer veriton S661 (or something like this) with four 1TB hdds and one 150GB hdd. The four 1TB hdds are in RAID1+0 (for a total of 2TB available). The problem is when try to install Deb it finds the raid volumes but can't operate on so I setted dmraid=true at the begin but now it won't find the 150GB hdd. Someone can help me?
13:24<thedead>(the sys will be on the 150GB hdd)
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13:54<ceaerrepe>Room in spanish?
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13:56<heikkila>ceaerrepe, for Debian support in Spanish: #debian-es
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13:57<ceaerrepe>heikkila, Gracias!
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14:25<wandeson>error in compile corrected. Only change variable value ARCH of makefile for compile pbrt-v2
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14:26<wandeson>Thank you very much friends :)
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14:31<spendythrift>i have about 500Gb of files that mysteriously disappeared on a softraid but are still showing up as taking space in webmin and through windows clients via samba shares
14:31<spendythrift>any pointers on uncovering this data again?
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14:56<viko>hi
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14:59<talsamon> hello, i have no contextmenu on the desktop and on the panel (gnome/wheezy)
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15:24<Itsslowychoco>Hi all
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15:34<werner_>autos
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16:14<M4tth3w>Hello zaba
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16:38<simplesgustavo>\j #debian-br
16:38<simplesgustavo>ops
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18:13<kolor>assalamualaikum
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18:37<kolor>assalamualaikum
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18:57<Da>Anyone have experience installing on a Vaio Z with raid0?
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19:08<kolor>assalamualaikum
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19:12<ompaul>!debian
19:12<dpkg>well, debian is http://www.debian.org. See http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/index.en.html#contents
19:12<ompaul>kolor: ^^
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19:16<Azendale>So, I'm trying to find the best way to get a diff or version control branch of the changes made when when zsync was packaged. Is this possible/where would I start?
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19:19<themill>Azendale: if you "apt-get source zsync" you'll get either a .diff.tar.gz which makes changes to the files directly or a .debian.tar.gz that contains a debian/patches/ directory that has the discrete patches in it. You can browse them at http://patch-tracker.debian.org/package/zsync .
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19:21<ompaul>basically a client side implementation of rsync ... http://zsync.moria.org.uk/downloads then get the source from debian and see what's what
19:22<Azendale>themill: Thanks, perfect. (I'm trying to package a modified version of zysnc with a GUI)
19:22*ompaul thinks maybe the ompaul should sleep
19:22<themill>dpkg: coffee ompaul
19:22*dpkg decants a fine broth of organic Tanzanian for ompaul, courtesy of themill
19:22<ompaul>thank you :-)
19:23<nevyn>mmm
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19:35<Azendale>Another question, if I have a binary that uses a glade interface file, where is the usual place to put it?
19:35<Azendale>It being the glade file
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21:01<sunil>hello , any one help me i am not able to open application from terminal
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21:01<sunil>it says command not found
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21:02<sunil>any one please help me
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21:03<deliver_>Which command do you want to execute, sunil
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21:03<sunil>im trying to open anysoftware like Downverter ... so i type Downverter
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21:04<deliver_>I never heard anytime the promname downverter
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21:04<sunil>ok googlechrome
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21:05<deliver_>google-chrome, expand with the tab
21:05<sunil>it says command not found
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21:06<deliver_>deliver@kutsche:~$ google-chrome Moonlight: 3.99.0.3 Moonlight: Attempting to load libmoonloaderxpi Moonlight: 3.99.0.3 etc
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21:07<deliver_>This is my output in konsole-terminal, sunil
21:07<deliver_>Zype only google-chrome and it opened
21:07<deliver_>type
21:07<sunil>no its not opening
21:07<sunil>:(
21:08<deliver_>That's bad
21:08<sunil>it says command not found
21:08<deliver_>I think, I can't help you anymore
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21:08<sunil>awww
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21:09<deliver_>Why do you want to open it from Konsole-terminal? suiside
21:09<deliver_>Sorry, not suiside, sunil
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21:26<Hectoriii>hi al
21:26<Hectoriii>*all
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21:32<deliver_>hi Hectoriii
21:33<Hectoriii>i need help about my swap partition, it isn't being used.
21:33<debdog>great :)
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21:34<Hectoriii>not great. My cpu is 100% and freezes.
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21:35<Hectoriii>if i change swappiness to 100 it keeps without swap.
21:36<deliver_>ksysguard
21:36<deliver_>Kill the process
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21:45<Hectoriii>that process doesn't exist
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21:47<deliver_>Than I don't know
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21:48<Hectoriii>i found "kswapd0"
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21:52<alfplayer>Hectoriii: check which process is going 100 % with top
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21:54<Hectoriii>xorg & chromium-browser
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21:54<Hectoriii>they doesn't consume all.
21:55<alfplayer>Hectoriii: try another browser?
21:56<deliver_>There numbers at the processes, exit top with "q" and they kill [number...]
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21:57<Hectoriii>firefox-bin and plugin-container.
21:57<deliver_>It could be xorg, but it is more possible that google needs all resources
21:58<deliver_>Which is the highest percentage in the list
21:58<Hectoriii>firefox-bin 52.3%
21:59<alfplayer>Hectoriii: old computer?
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21:59<Hectoriii>a lil, its a inspiron 1501
22:01<Hectoriii>i had some issues with my graphic driver. i think maybe xorg.
22:01<deliver_>kill firefox, the fadobe-flash in the plugin-container is broken
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22:01<Hectoriii>i killed it.
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22:02<Hectoriii>flashplugin freezes in any browser.
22:02<alfplayer>Hectoriii: squeeze, right? which firefox version?
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22:03<deliver_>I had a problem with java-chats, after 24 hours it needs 100% of cpu
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22:04<alfplayer>Hectoriii: if you have an old version, try latest iceweasel (it's firefox, really) from external mozilla repository
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22:04<alfplayer>Hectoriii: it may be faster
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22:08<Hectoriii>the problem is when i play a video on youtube.com
22:09<Hectoriii>or when i use gnome-shell.
22:10<Hectoriii>if i adjust swappiness to 100 it stills without using swap.
22:10<Hectoriii>0K
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22:17<alfplayer>Hectoriii: then it might be a video problem, like slow video hardware
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22:18<alfplayer>if that's it, changing browser wouldn't help much
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22:20<Hectoriii>ok
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22:20<Hectoriii>ty so much
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22:20<Hectoriii>i ll keep using lxde.
22:20<Hectoriii>m
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22:21<Hectoriii>while i found how install fglrx
22:21<alfplayer>ok
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23:28<ObamaSucks>http://Obama-Sucks-Balls.com
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