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#debian IRC Logs for 2012-10-08

---Logopened Mon Oct 08 00:00:08 2012
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01:56<rado>saskol
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02:29<dragondon>TCW, well, I give up. The only way to seemingly recover files is to root the device. Spent way too much time on this so they are gone.
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02:29<TCW>dragondon, best practice is *always*... have a backup!
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02:31<dragondon>TCW, that is what I thought I had done...backed them up to an album....but aparnetly I did not :( Went back to Google's Instant Upload option.
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02:55<dragondon>TCW, thanks for all your help!
02:56<TCW>dragondon, did I "help"? :)
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02:56<TCW>I saw myself more like destroying visions and faith :)
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03:19<stas>Hello. could you help to understand how to make work opengl in wine on 64bit? I installed ia32-libs, but still it says that opengl is not found
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03:22<Calinou>stas: what is your graphics card, what driver do you use?
03:22<stas>nvidia, tried both - dkms and now latest from their site
03:23<nevyn>stas wine is 32bit only
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03:23<stas>i mean on 64bit debian
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03:24<nevyn>you need multiarch and i dunno how multiarch nvidia-glx goes
03:25<jm_>stas: are you using squeeze?
03:25<stas>wheezy
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03:30<stas>maybe i misunderstood, but should i somehow tell wine use lib32 instead of 64?
03:31<engla>stas, I think you are better off not using any ia32-libs packages at all
03:31<engla>instead just using :i386 packages
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03:35<dragondon>TCW, you did, if anything help me understand just a wee bit more than I did before I woke up :)
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03:36<TCW>dragondon, ok then... :)
03:36<maria>ciao
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03:38<TCW>maria, that was quite a long absence! ;)
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04:54<swaroop>hi
04:54<swaroop>all
04:55<swaroop>i am looking for best GUI for managing Virtual machines
04:55<swaroop>and LXC-Containers
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05:26<harlequin516>Anyone have a guess as to why I cannot ssh or imaps to my server, but The server still runs fine (http, existing ssh connections all respond fine)?
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05:27<harlequin516>I have enabled DEBUG log in sshd but when the connection from ssh client is attempted tehre are no log entries at all. Its as if tehres a firewall, bu thtere isn't.
05:28<harlequin516>Then it will start working again the next minute.
05:28<harlequin516>This happens frequently, works then does not work. Every few minutes.
05:28<shkitch>what does 'ssh -v' say?
05:29<shkitch>on the client I mean..
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05:30<harlequin516>It says "connecting", but I never get the "connection established" message like when it does work. There is no output in the server logs in /var/log at all showing a connection attempt..
05:30<melmothX>harlequin516: you have a drunk network, probably
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05:31<harlequin516>melmothX: Drunk? oh oh. AA?
05:31<melmothX>or dns issues
05:32<harlequin516>No DNS resolves fine according to the -vv output
05:32<shkitch>my guess is the router has been smoking some pot lately...
05:32<kafson>hello fucking people
05:32<kafson>smoke some weed mannnnnnnnnnnnn
05:32<real>oh boy - please go away
05:32<harlequin516>Damnit you serious.
05:32<harlequin516>I did not try rebooting the router.
05:32<babilen>kafson: Drop it
05:32<kafson>yes man i am so serious
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05:34<babilen>shkitch: And please keep it professional (not that a joke is not appreciated, but it leads to ^^^)
05:34<babilen>:)
05:35<harlequin516>Damn I don't want to reboot the router. I will try to see if imaps fails from my phone, which I suspect it will.
05:36<shkitch>i'm not saying you should reboot... just tcpdump the connection on the router to see what happens
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05:37<swig>I'd imaging current connections that are working fine would also be having problems if it was the router
05:37<shkitch>my guess is you have some connection issues
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05:40<harlequin516>I'm on a dumb home cheapo Linsys WRT110N router, can t do any fancy logging that I know of. How can I see if a new connection has come to my linux server? can I see a log of the connect of the ssh connection request?
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05:44<harlequin516>Oh tcpdump will do what I am asking I guess. I'm assuming that it outputs raw recieved tcp packets, before any processing or mangling
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05:58<harlequin516>Cool tcpdump 'tcp[tcpflags] & (tcp-syn|tcp-fin) != 0 and not src and dst net localnet'
05:58<harlequin516>Gives me exactly what I was looking for. IT wsa one of the examples in the man page.
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06:00<weasel>"and not src"?
06:01<weasel>weird abbreviation
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06:18<nadir>I liked this tutorial: http://danielmiessler.com/study/tcpdump/
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07:14<harlequin516>nadir: yes it is a nice tutorial.
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07:30<grammoboy>can you put a noisy nas in a regular closet? or is that too bad in terms of ventilation
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07:30<grammoboy>home situation
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08:05<grammoboy>ah I've it in a woden box now with a small opening for ventilation and it's already much more quiet
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08:22<jm_>grammoboy: those questions belong into another channel, but keep in mind that disks will go bad if they are too hot
08:22<grammoboy>jm_, yep I probably need a disk temp tool
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08:23<albe>CIAO A TUTTI
08:23<Maulkin>!es-social
08:23<dpkg>Este canal es de ayuda con ordenadores en Ingles. Si no necesitas ayuda con tu ordenador por favor ingresa al canal social de #debian-es con /join #debian-es-cachondeo. Tus amigos probablemente ya esten ahi.
08:24<albe>VOLEVO SAPERE VISTO CHE E LA PRIMA VOLTA CHE USO UBUNTU, E POSSIBILE SCARICARE CON QUESTA CHAT COME MIRC??
08:24<Maulkin>oh, hang on...
08:24<Maulkin>!it
08:24<dpkg>Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help.
08:24<jm_>grammoboy: hddtemp or smartctl shall show it
08:25<grammoboy>jm_, does these tools also give warnings?
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08:26<TCW>grammoboy, some DEs have applets to do the warning. Like sensor applets
08:26<jm_>grammoboy: no, I use collectd's notify plugin for that (munin can also do this, or gkrellm, ...)
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08:30<grammoboy>jm_, that works also in a headless system?
08:30<jm_>grammoboy: collectd? yeah, for gkrellm I use gkrellmd on the server and connect to it with gkrellm --server
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08:33<grammoboy>ok thx
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08:35<grammoboy>jm_, what is a good channel for these hardware questions?
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08:37<jm_>grammoboy: ##hardware on irc.freenode.net
08:37<grammoboy>k thx
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09:42<lord_rob>Hi ! I'm trying to start stunnel4 but I get the message "/etc/ssl/certs/stunnel.pem: No such file or directory" Where can I get this file ?
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09:48<shweppsie>lord_rob: read /usr/share/doc/stunnel4/README.Debian
09:48<shweppsie>read the section "How to create SSL keys for stunnel"
09:49<shweppsie>It may be a good idea to learn about ssl if you don't know about it already.
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09:50<lord_rob>ok thank you checking that
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10:30<heikkila>Sound-volume in Gnome 2.3 resets to mute between reboots, how can I change it to reset to saner values or save it between boots?
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10:47<gnugr>heikkila:hmm, not sure if it will work, but try to edit /etc/default/pulseaudio and set PULSEAUDIO_SYSTEM_START to 1
10:49<heikkila>gnugr, thanks, but it turned out I needed alsa-utils
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10:55<bea>what would you recommend for having user accounts (uid, password) synced across a small lab network (7 clients, 1 server)? some googling gave me NIS or LDAP, although most howtos for the latter do not really specify the scenario in a way that i understand whether it is what i want.
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11:46<pajaro>i remember i saw somewhere a command to clone a package repository if available directly
11:46<pajaro>does anybody rememeber the command?
11:46<themill>debcheckout?
11:47<pajaro>thats the one, thank you :D
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11:58<touki>Hi, I have many problems by installing packages
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11:58<touki>When i simply make "upgrade" i get into a kind of file
11:59<touki>text file
12:00<touki>it begins by
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12:01<themill>!paste
12:01<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>.
12:01<touki>"broadcom-sta (5.100.82.112-2)...", then it goes to "cron (3.0pl1-119, etc.
12:01<themill>touki: ^^ the full output in a pastebin would be helpful
12:01<touki>ok
12:01<touki>http://pastebin.com/5G2MLKgk
12:01<touki>Here it begins
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12:04<themill>touki: that's important information about how packages have changed. Press space bar or down arrow to read it and q to quit
12:04<touki>it goes on with many packages like (patch (2.6.1-1) pcmciautils (018-1), etc.
12:04<themill>!apt-listchanges
12:04<dpkg>apt-listchanges is a tool that displays NEWS.Debian file contents (default) and/or the changelogs of Debian packages before upgrading them (dpkg-reconfigure apt-listchanges). It is recommended for users of stable to install the apt-listchanges package, to see what is happening to their systems as security fixes are applied; it should be made _mandatory_ for users of testing and unstable. Also ask me about <d-d-a>, <apt-listbugs>.
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12:05<touki>ok i got it
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12:06<touki>thanks
12:06<touki>Do you have a good tutorial where I could get how apt-get / aptitude / dpkg are working
12:06<touki>?
12:07<themill>!debian-handbook
12:07<dpkg>The Debian Administrator's Handbook is at http://debian-handbook.info/ and can be browsed, bought and downloaded. It can also can be installed from the debian-handbook package (only in wheezy and sid). Also ask me about <books> <docs>.
12:07<touki>ty
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12:09<s1ck>Hi! I have very fuzzy and laggy mouse input on testing /w kde and radeon drivers. Any ideas how to fix that?
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12:09<touki>seems just what i need
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12:18<s1ck>no one? :(
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12:24<devil>s1ck: sticky keys enabled by mistake?
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12:25<s1ck>how can i check that? I cant remember activating sticky keys
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12:27<devil>s1ck: they get activated if you press a key for too long (after asking you if you want to enable it)
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12:27<devil>s1ck: let me look wehere it hides in systemsettings
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12:28<devil>s1ck: no idea what it is in EN, the icon is blue, a figure with spread arms
12:28<s1ck>okay. well, normally I dont do that
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12:28<devil>s1ck: i did it by mistake before and so have others
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12:29<s1ck>ah okay. Well, I dont have it active
12:30<s1ck>the thing is, when the mouse gets fuzzy I just switch dpi on my mouse to something different and then back again. after that, it works perfectly for quite some time
12:30<devil>do you have firmware-linux.nonfree installed?
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12:30<s1ck>maybe its hardware-related, but on other systems I never had problems.
12:30<devil>firmware-linux-nonfree, that is
12:30<devil>but from your last line, it seems more mouse-related
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12:31<s1ck>dpkg --list | grep firmware doesnt show such thing
12:31<dpkg>s1ck: no idea
12:31<wolfpharma__>holaa
12:31<wolfpharma__>HOLA
12:31<s1ck>devil, maybe it is. thank you
12:31<devil>s1ck: you want that anyways with the radeon driver
12:31<devil>wolfpharma__: we read you
12:31<s1ck>devil, i use binary drivers
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12:31<devil>oh, cause you said radeon
12:32<devil>it would be fglrx
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12:32<devil>radeon is the free driver
12:32<s1ck>its a mess anyway, since i dont use fglrx only for 2D, without any 3D
12:32<s1ck>so in my modules it shows radeon
12:32<s1ck>which is wrong
12:32<devil>well, maybe you want to fix your driver issues :)
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12:33<s1ck>devil, it's just temporarily. I sure was surprised that it works, though :D
12:33<devil>i never owned an ati card :)
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12:35<s1ck>devil, well contrary to things many people say, I never had any issues on linux. maybe i'm lucky
12:35<devil>s1ck: in stable the driver should ™ work. but i never used stable.
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12:36<s1ck>me neither (for desktop at least)
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12:38<pinqvin>hello
12:38<pinqvin>anyone knows how to install wine 1.5 on debian
12:38<pinqvin>?
12:39<towo`>in stable, there is no wine 1.5
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12:39<devil>not in unstable or experimental either
12:39<towo`>devil, it is ;)
12:39<towo`>it's named wine-unstable
12:39<devil>really? all I can see is 1.4.1-4 0
12:40<devil>oh
12:40<devil>you can tell I never use wine
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12:41<blast007>wine-unstable (version 1.5.6) is only in sid/unstable, from what I can tell.
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12:43<stas>hello, could you confirm that in wheezy fresh installed doesn't work layout changing after reboot. it could be fixing by unset and set again layout changing key.
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12:53<wolfpharma__>hola
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12:54<TobiX>pinqvin: I think the idea was to let stable wine version migrate to testing, so it hits next Debian stable and keep wine-unstable in unstable only...
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12:54<pinqvin>ok tobix
12:54<pinqvin>Is there any way to ket wma losless work on debian?
12:54<pinqvin>*get
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12:56<s1ck>pinqvin, what about vlc? did you try that? Compiling wine from source is your way to go. It's quite easy
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12:59<pinqvin>slck, vlc doesn't play wma on linux
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12:59<pinqvin>*WMA lossless
13:00<pinqvin>Do you thinka that vlc will play losless via wine?
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13:00<s1ck>ffmpeg provides a wma lossless decoder since 0.11
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13:00<s1ck>no, it most likely wont
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13:01<pinqvin>ffmpeg what's that?
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13:02<pinqvin>google->
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13:03<ring0>nice, wine and wine-unstable are pretty up-to-date. i remember this used to be different, when i last checked :)
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13:06<pinqvin>how to install ffplay?
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13:08<devil>pinqvin: it is part of libav-tools
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13:09<MrFrood>pinqvin: moc is in the repros and has an option to use ffmpeg - I think some othher media-players also have options to use ffmpeg
13:09<pinqvin>ok i'll try
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13:30<s1ck>I ran into another problem
13:30<s1ck>i need to set options for modules at boot
13:30<s1ck>so i created a config file in /etc/modprobe.d/ but it doesnt seem to affect anything
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13:31<towo`>s1ck, ant it's a secret, what you have written in "your" config-file?
13:31<towo`>s/t/d
13:32<s1ck>nstall radeon /sbin/modprobe pciback ; /sbin/modprobe --first-time --ignore-install radeon
13:32<s1ck>install snd_hda_intel /sbin/modprobe pciback ; /sbin/modprobe --first-time --ignore-install snd_hda_intel
13:32<s1ck>and options dummy numdummies=3
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13:32<s1ck>i'm using xen, btw
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13:34<s1ck>its not doing anything, no matter what I put in
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13:37<jmux>s1ck: Does your config file have the extension ".conf"? AFAIK / remember it's otherwise ignored (but I got a warning some time ago).
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13:37<s1ck>yes, it has
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13:41<florin>hy, enibody there
13:42<Maulkin>!ask
13:42<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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13:43<florin>i'm using voyager, based on xubuntu can someone tell me whay didn't recognize my mpmantk250 as mass storage?
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13:44<florin>ived made some researches on google and i found nothing!
13:45<Maulkin>florin: You'll need to check with Ubuntu about that I'm afraid
13:45<florin>ok, sorry for disturbing
13:45<jmux>s1ck: and your first line doesn't start with 'nstall'? And did you recreate the initramfs?
13:45<florin>10x
13:45<Maulkin>!tell florin about ubuntu-irc
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13:46<s1ck>jmux, it's missing an "i" there. I created a new initramfs with "sudo update-initramfs -u -k all"
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13:47<s1ck>jmux, maybe i should try without the "-u" option
13:47<om>hello happy bears!
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13:48<om>i'd like to know how to mount disks and devices without entering the root password everytime
13:49<jmux>s1ck: -c should to create a completely new one. I don't know what parts '-u' really updates.
13:49<om>i know it's kinda of a newbie thing, buth what's the problem? I'm a newbie :P
13:49<om>but*
13:49<s1ck>jmux, so if i run it like "sudo update-initramfs -c -k all" it creates new images for all kernels?
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13:51<jmux>s1ck: should. But it tells you which versions it updates.
13:52<s1ck>om, you can set the "user" option in /etc/fstab
13:52<s1ck>om, see "man fstab"
13:52<jmux>The known versions are listed in /var/lib/initramfs-tools/
13:52<om>oh, thanks s1ck
13:53<s1ck>jmux, thank you very much. I will try that now
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13:53<om>what's the purpose for the number between brackets in the manual pages?
13:53<s1ck>jmux, it says that the kernel images already exist
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14:01<stderr>om: You mean like "fstab(5)"?
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14:03<stderr>om: Man pages are divided into sections: User commands, System calls, Library functions, and so on. The number says what section the man page belongs to.
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14:04<stderr>om: There's a user command called "printf", but there's also a library function called "printf". printf(1) would be the man page for the command, printf(3) for the library function.
14:05<jmux>s1ck: so I guess that's why you should use '-u'.
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14:06<s1ck>jmux, but that doesnt work :(
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14:09<jmux>s1ck: 'sudo -s -H update-initramfs -k all -u' at least works for me
14:10<jmux>What's your error message?
14:10<s1ck>there is no error message. But I already tried that and it did not set the module options correctly
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14:14<jmux>s1ck: Is the kernel listed in /var/lib/initramfs-tools/?
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14:15<s1ck>jmux, yup it is
14:16<jmux>Otherwise 'sudo -s -H update-initramfs -k <ver> -u' should work. If it doesn't remove /boot/initrd.img-<ver> and call update-initramfs -k <ver> -c
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14:41<EmleyMoor>The graphics have "seized" on my desktop machine - have stopped gdm3 and the picture still remains. Short of a reboot, any way to clear?
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15:09<youser>Hello !
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15:10<om>stderr, i was afk. thanks for the explanation!
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15:10<youser>lol
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15:11<youser>a irc without dialog
15:11<youser>clap clap
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15:40<yme>hola
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15:41<yme>busco a alguien con qien ablar
15:42<yme>hello
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15:43<themill>!es
15:43<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
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15:44<lok>hola
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15:51<new2unity>hello all, I just installed ubuntu 12.04 and I wanted to add the little weather thing to my panel, but I noticed that it won't let me do anything when I right click it. How can add it?
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15:51<MrFrood>!ubuntu
15:51<dpkg>Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>.
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15:52<new2unity>Are there other interfaces that is similar to windows in ubuntu? I tried zorinOS 6 and it is great, but way too many problems with the dock and compiz.
15:53<new2unity>oh I'm sorry, I didn't know what channel I was on, my bad.
15:53<MrFrood>new2unity: see the message above from dpkg
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15:53<MrFrood>np, please come back if you ever try debian
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15:54<new2unity>I've never used debian, is it simple to use like ubuntu?
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15:55<MrFrood>ubuntu is based on debian
15:55<new2unity>mmmm so it's better?
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15:56<MrFrood>but with stuff added that the ubuntu devs think make it better but I guess debian users don't - horses for courses etc...
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15:58<om>guys, i'd like to know how to mount my secondary disk without entering the root password everytime :( .. someone suggested me to edit fstab, but wasn't that for the mounting at boot login? :/ pls
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15:58<new2unity>it's all based around not paying that huge price for a system that crashes all the time and is varnible to viruses.
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15:59<debdog>om: option "noauto" in fstab diables automount
15:59<debdog>*disables
15:59<om>oooohh, ok debdog
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15:59<debdog>other options enable user(s) to mount and unmount partitiions and drives
15:59<om>i'll try to edit it then
16:00<MrFrood>om: yes, fstab iirc you don' have to automount at boot and you can use it to inicate which users have permission to mount a device - but it has been a very long time since I messed with fstab
16:01<om>why that MrFrood
16:01<om>?
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16:02<MrFrood>om: debdog covered what I wanted to say in far fewer words while I was typing
16:02*debdog had more typos, though
16:03<om>lulz
16:03*MrFrood giggles
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16:50<dummy>hi, i have a problem with netbeans. I installed version 7.0.1 and now i want to add the C/C++ module but i can't cause there is nothing listed under (Tools/plugins/available plugins). Does anyone know how to update netbeans for c/c++ ? Thanks.
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17:03<om>good bye good fellas!
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17:08<shiznatix>Hi. I have some mounts defined in fstab but for some reason they arent being loaded on boot. If I run "mount -a" after boot everything works just fine. How can I get it to load on boot?
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17:36<devil>shiznatix: paste the respective lines to a pastebin
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17:38<shiznatix>devil, thanks but I figured out a solution. I made an file in /etc/udev/rules.d/ with the line SUBSYSTEM=="block", RUN+="/bin/mount -a" and now it all works
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17:38<devil>shiznatix: fstab is straight forward and needs no workarounds
17:39<shiznatix>devil, the respective lines are here: http://pastebin.com/pvRyBUNi
17:42<devil>you are lacking 'defaults' in there. but as I guess, ntfs needs that also, but I know very little of ntfs
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17:43<devil>like ntfs-3g defaults ...
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17:46<devil>or you define 'auto' 'users' etc separately
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17:49<devil>defaults incorporates rw, suid, dev, exec, auto, nouser, and async.
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18:08<ex-parrot>I've noticed recently while backporting certain packages from wheezy that the debian/foo.install file seems now to include in some places what I assume is shell globbing in the middle of pathnames, e.g lines like `usr/lib/*/lib*'
18:08<ex-parrot>which seems to break devscripts on Squeeze
18:08<ex-parrot>can anyone point me at docs / discussion regarding this so I can get my head around it? :)
18:08<themill>!multiarch
18:08<dpkg>Debian is working towards the ability to install packages from one architecture on a machine that is running a different architecture. This makes i386/amd64 issues simpler (no more ia32-libs!), helps tag firmware blobs with the correct arch and allows easier cross-compiling and bootstrapping. Multiarch support is a release goal for Debian 7.0 "Wheezy". http://www.debian.org/News/2011/20110726b http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch
18:08<ex-parrot>that was easy, thanks themill!
18:09<themill>ex-parrot: it's matching paths like /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 where that arch-triplet will vary for each different architecture the package is built on
18:09<ex-parrot>gotcha, I thought it might be something like that
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18:10<ex-parrot>am I right in thinking that if I am using squeeze's devscripts those multiarch style paths will never happen and I can safely remove the * from the middle of the path?
18:10<ex-parrot>for the purposes of internal backporting anyway
18:10<themill>yes (you don't mean devscripts, btw)
18:11<ex-parrot>I probably don't... I am using debuild which comes from devscripts, which as far as my understanding extends really 8^)
18:12<ex-parrot>what is the right phrase to be using there? debuild?
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18:17<themill>ex-parrot: these are debhelper config files within the source package.
18:17<ex-parrot>ah yes, I see what you mean
18:19<tobib>I just updated to wheezy and now whenever I try to connect to a wireless network I get "Failed to add/activate connection (32) Insufficient privileges." I tried following the fix described here (http://blog.spanger.org/?p=1099) but I won't work. Any help?
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18:20<ex-parrot>is it viable to upgrade a squeeze system to a newer version of debhelper to ease with backporting? or better to just modify the config files in the package to work with the older debhelper?
18:21<ansgar>ex-parrot: There is already a backport for debhelper.
18:21<ex-parrot>I guess that answers that, then :)
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18:59<ralu>my headphones on laptop doesnt work., but did
18:59<ralu>i have everything on full in alsamixer
19:00<MrFrood>ralu: not muted?
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19:00<ralu>nope
19:01<ralu>just resched
19:01<ralu>*re checked
19:02<rainfyre>that mute thing gets me everytime
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19:02<ralu>:)
19:03<rainfyre>:)
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19:06<Samkov>are there any amule users out there?
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19:11<devil>Samkov: ask your question
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19:17<Samkov>well I installed amule and noticed that it was sharing 2 of my files in / which were: initrd.img and vmlinuz even though I have it set to not share any directories
19:18<Samkov>I thought that this was kind of strange, is this normal for these 2 files to go up and be shared?
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19:22<devil>Samkov: no, it's not
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20:19<Guest1081>hello
20:19<Guest1081>just testing things out
20:20<dvs>!ping
20:20<dpkg>Yes, dvs, you are online.
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20:30<yme>hola
20:30<yme>holiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
20:30*abrotman looks
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20:31<yme>#debian-es
20:32<abrotman>right, /join #debian-es
20:33<yme>hello
20:34<abrotman>yme: do you need help with Debian?
20:34<yme>yo no ablo igles
20:34*dvs bites his tongue
20:34<abrotman>then use #debian-es
20:35<yme>y
20:35<abrotman>Speak english here, or go to #debian-es
20:36<yme>q
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20:46<darkwizard>hey erryone
20:46<darkwizard>hows everone doing
20:46*abrotman hides
20:47<darkwizard>you slut dont hide from me!
20:47*darkwizard finds abrotman
20:47*darkwizard nigger slaps abrotman
20:47<abrotman>darkwizard: excuse me?
20:47<darkwizard>i nigger slapped you
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22:23<apapheoz>hi guys
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22:43<SmileBitch>I'm trying to install the latest version of fwbuilder, I downloaded it from the site and now I have problem compiling it ./configure doesnt work anyone has an idea?
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23:27<thedead>Hi all, I'm trying to map a network but there are some unmanaged switches and I was wondering if there is any possibility to discover them. I hope not to be OT but I asked here because I'm using debian. Thanks in advice
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23:30<blarson>thedead: no
23:30<sney>thedead: unmanaged switches (and some managed) generally don't even have addresses. you may be able to figure out where they are with broadcast pings from different hosts but it'd be pretty ass backwards. just follow the wires, really
23:33<thedead>sney: okay, I already knew that unmanaged ones don't have IP addresses, I just thought that there was some kind of way using MAC addresses. And now I'm hoping that "follow the wires" wont be too difficult as it seems seen from here :)
23:34<sney>with most managed switches you see in the wild(cisco), having an address is a feature that isn't enabled by default
23:35<thedead>sney: the real question is, why in a 5 buildings network there are unmanaged switches on the backbone?
23:36<sney>last-ditch solution to a capacity problem?
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23:39<thedead>sney: I hope so, there are a managed one that should connect other 10 ones (at least), two per building where every building have two floors.
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23:40<thedead>and "should" is mandatory in these kind of cases
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23:42<thedead>BTW, thank you. Bye :)
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