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#debian IRC Logs for 2012-10-14

---Logopened Sun Oct 14 00:00:43 2012
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01:17<aron>kuyimase'
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01:40<aron>hi all
01:40<aron>I'm news
01:41<aron>someone on?!!
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01:47<scientes>when is wheezy going to be released?
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01:48<Basilic>matin
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02:46<alf>ciao
02:46<alf>!list
02:46<dpkg>alf: vedi http://packages.debian.org/
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03:00<johnson_>man -?
03:01<johnson_>how can i use it
03:01<johnson_>omg, where am i
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03:04<johnson_>help set
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03:05<johnson_>Is there anyone here?
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03:06*johnson_ 'does anything'
03:07*johnson_ waves hello
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03:09*johnson_ anybody here?
03:10*johnson_ could sb advise if there's a channel for beginner?
03:10<devil>johnson_: beginners of?
03:11<devil>and please, no colour
03:11<johnson_>Oh sorry!
03:11<devil>thanks
03:12<johnson_>http://www.ircbeginner.com/ircinfo/ircc-commands.html
03:12<johnson_>i'm looking at this manual and tried...
03:12<devil>johnson_: http://www.oftc.net/oftc/
03:13<devil>that is more fitting for this server
03:13<johnson_>thanks!\
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03:14<devil>but the commands in your link work here as well
03:15<johnson_>Haha! thanks!
03:15<devil>johnson_: http://www.ircbeginner.com/ircinfo/etiquette.html also applies
03:16<devil>let me add that it is considered unpolite in here to query someone without asking if it is ok
03:17<johnson_>Sorry, my apology!
03:18<devil>johnson_: why apologize? you did not query me (query is the private channel)
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03:19<johnson_>This is my first time on installing linux
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03:20<devil>and, as this channel gets busy at times, if you talk to someone, use his nick, so he gets notifiied
03:20<johnson_>ok
03:20<devil>now you are good to go :)
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03:36<karol>hi can somebody help me with connecting to remote desktop via nx client on debian squeeze?
03:36<karol>i think i just need to open 3389 port for that but dunno how ;f
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03:37<Ichabod>karol: aare you running a firewall?
03:37<karol>i dont think so ;p i didnt make or install any
03:38<Ichabod>could you paste the output of iptables -L -n -v to paste.debian.net
03:39<karol>http://paste.debian.net/200194
03:41<Ichabod>no firewall
03:41<karol>like i told U :P
03:41<Ichabod>so what aexactly are you trying to do?
03:42<karol>connect to remote desktop ;/
03:42<Ichabod>the remote desktop is a windows machine, correct?
03:42<karol>yes
03:43<Ichabod>have you confirmed it working?
03:43<karol>yep :)
03:43<karol>im working on it right now on other pc (with win xp)
03:43<Ichabod>alright, which client are you using?
03:43<karol>nx
03:44<Ichabod>that wont work
03:45<Ichabod>nx is for X11
03:45<karol>god damnit ;f
03:45<Ichabod>you need rdesktop
03:45<Ichabod>or if youwant a gui gnome-rdp
03:45<karol>its via console if i remember correctly?
03:46<Ichabod>rdesktop is via console yes
03:46<Ichabod>gnome-rdp offers a gui
03:46<karol>which is better? ;] rdesktop?
03:48<Ichabod>depends on your needs
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03:48<Ichabod>gnome-rdp is a gui for rdesktop
03:48<Ichabod>so it doesnt matter
03:49<karol>lol ur genius ;d
03:49<karol>its working without any efforts on rdesktop
03:49<karol>:)
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04:22<karol>Ichabod, thx for help ;]
04:22<karol>cu all
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04:26<razavi>watsup
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05:24<happy>how can we format a read only file pendrive?
05:24<devil>happy: does it have a physical switch?
05:25<happy> sry did not get u
05:25<happy>physical switch means??
05:26<happy>i just want format a usb pendrive
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05:29<happy>no physical locl
05:29<happy>lock
05:29<devil>happy: some have a physical switch to set them from rw to r
05:29<happy>no physical switch
05:29<devil>happy: other than that, gparted should be able to format it
05:29<happy>nop
05:29<devil>and the error is?
05:30<happy>can i post here?
05:30<devil>1 line or 2
05:31<happy>ok
05:31<happy>Error creating file system: helper exited with exit code 1: cannot open /dev/sdb1: Read-only file system
05:32<happy>using disk utility
05:33<happy>n in gparted just operation failed
05:34<happy>??
05:35<happy>there?
05:36<devil>happy: maybe the linux part of this helps: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/restoring-your-usb-key-partition/
05:36<rainfyre>brb
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05:37<happy>thanks.:)
05:38<happy>ll see it now
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05:45<happy>@devil u there?
05:46<devil>yeah
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05:47<happy>i followed each step
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05:47<happy>but not able to to write the new partion
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05:47<devil>hm. what is the devicename?
05:47<happy>tutorial is good
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05:48<happy>but not worked for me .:(
05:48<happy>sdb1
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05:48<devil>as root, try: mount /dev/sdb1 -o remount,rw
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05:48<happy>ok
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05:50<happy> can i post the error??
05:50<devil>as i said, a line or 2, anything bigger to http://paste.debian.net
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05:50<happy>mount: cannot remount block device /dev/sdb1 read-write, is write-protected
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05:52<devil>happy: dmesg | grep -i usb to http://paste.debian.net
05:52<devil>happy: and whast is the filesystem in that device?
05:54<happy>ntfs
05:54<devil>ouch
05:54<devil>why in the world would anyone put ntfs on a stick?
05:55<happy>as to install live ubuntu12.04
05:55<happy>ma frn got his hdd crashed
05:55<devil>try to reformat it to fat32 un der windows
05:55<devil>and for ubuntu this is the wrong channe
05:55<happy>ok hold on
05:55<happy>ok
05:55<happy>:)
05:55<devil>!ubuntuirc
05:55<dpkg>This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server chat.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://chat.freenode.net/ubuntu
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05:58<happy>sry
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05:59<happy>i just wanna format ma pendrive nothing works for me but thanks devil ur tutorial was realy good
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06:00<devil>happy: try under windows. shouöld work. maybe do a fs-check on it
06:00<happy>did not work
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06:00<devil>and forget ntfs (for sticks)
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06:00<happy>done all
06:00<happy>fs check
06:01<happy>attribute check
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06:14<XReaper>Noticed debian has systemd in the wheezy repos, i guess we'll end up having the option to choose our init system
06:14<happy>devil u there?
06:14<happy>plz try to help me more
06:15<devil>happy: please go to the ubuntu irc, as I told you
06:16<happy>there no
06:16<devil>?
06:16<happy>they said its not possible to format a write protected usb
06:17<devil>happy: if that is the expertise of the distro you choose to use, maybe you should question that choice.
06:17<XReaper>happy: why is it write protected?
06:18<happy>got it devil thanks. man.:)
06:18<XReaper>happy: did you dd an iso to it or something? :P
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06:18<happy>yes
06:18<XReaper>Yeah
06:18<devil>XReaper: it has ntfs :)
06:18<XReaper>Oh
06:18<XReaper>ntfs-3g
06:18<happy>ma frn installed live ubuntu12.04
06:18<XReaper>happy: the linux kernel only has read-only ntfs support
06:18<XReaper>need the fuse drivers for r/w
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06:19<XReaper>And i've had stuff go REALLY weird under linux
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06:19<happy>hmm
06:19<devil>XReaper: the stick does not perform under windows either
06:19<XReaper>devil: oh
06:19<devil>yeah.
06:20<happy>fuse drivers can u plz explain it lil bit
06:20<XReaper>happy: can't remove the partition table?
06:20<happy>yup
06:20<XReaper>Oh ... now that is really odd
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06:20<XReaper>happy: is there anything on it?
06:20<devil>lunch, gotta go
06:21<XReaper>sounds odd to be ro
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06:43<raziel>hi
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06:44<raziel>help
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08:19<Analingus>I just removed LXDE and installed Gnome, but the terminal is still using LXDE-terminal and gnome-terminal is allready installed, how can I make gnome-terminal the default like I want it?
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08:20<Analingus>!dpkg change terminal
08:20<dpkg>that doesn't look right
08:20<Analingus>!change terminal
08:21<Analingus>!dpkg how to change terminal
08:21<Analingus>grr
08:21<themill>Analingus: dpkg doesn't answer random questions like that
08:21<themill>update-alternatives --config x-terminal-emulator
08:21<Analingus>yeah im gettin that
08:22<themill>(whether that will change whatever gnome is launching as the terminal application I can't say)
08:22<Analingus>* 0 /usr/bin/gnome-terminal.wrapper 40 auto mode
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08:24<Analingus>sweet
08:25<Analingus>that works
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08:34<salvo53>ciao
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08:48<BrunoGau>Bonjour, ex-ubuntu depuis 5 ans, je suis passé sous debian squeeze depuis hier. Je cherche à installer un pilote NVDIA, mais à l'installation on me recommande d'installer nvidia-kernel-195.36.31. en faisant apt-get install nvidia-kernel-195.36.31 on me dit que c'est un paquet virtuel et que je dois choisir entre vserver-686, vserver-686-bigmem, 686, 686-bigmem, 486... J'ai une certe GeForce 9600M GT et un processeur Intel Core 2 duo
08:48<daemonkeeper>!fr
08:48<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr.
08:48<BrunoGau>ok, sorry & thanks
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08:51<uju>hi! ev'bdy ! got in a strange problem i installed kernel 3.2.0.from backports now can't uninstall properly plz hlp!
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08:53<Analingus>just edit grub?
08:53<Analingus>locate grub.list
08:53<Analingus>remove the line for kernel u dont want to boot too
08:54<Analingus>the old kernel should still have an entry
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08:57<uju>Thnx Analingus 4 yr rply ! I've done dat allrdy but now i whenever install any package dpkg returns errno no 127 with initramfs-tools problem
08:57<Analingus>oh yeah
08:57<Analingus>u need to update initramfs
08:58<Analingus>!dpkg update initramfs
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08:58<Analingus>just do update-initramfs
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08:59<Analingus>that hopefully will take care of that
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09:15<diwang90>close
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09:16<Analingus>?
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10:14<dragondon>Well this is odd. My system did the fastest soft reboot, kinda like a logout it looked like. Suddenly my screen went blank, and I had to log in again.
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10:14<dragondon>then after a few moments, Firestarted popped up an error message: http://paste.debian.net/200328/
10:16<dragondon>strange that my galaxy tab also just froze and I had to factory reset....sigh.
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10:26<uju>hi evebdy! dear Analingus when i tried to update initramfs-tools but it breaks max gnome packs any idea plz
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10:33<hate29>Hi, Is it fine to have no swap at all? I'm thinking of running wheezy on a box that has 16GB of ram. All of it will never be used.
10:33<abrotman>never going to use suspend?
10:33<imad>hi dearrrrrrr
10:34<imad>hi dearrrrrrrr
10:34<abrotman>you can run it without swap, bad things will happen if you do use all the RAM, but if you don't think that will happen, go for it
10:34<abrotman>hate29: also, if you do have problems later, you can use a swapfile instead of a swap partition
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10:35<hate29>Okay, so best solution is to make a little swap partition? I do have disk space for it but I thought that I don't need it
10:35<abrotman>just said,y ou can make a swap file instead
10:36<hate29>Of course. And I'm not suspending my system
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10:39<uju>i have installed backports kernel 3.2.0 and now can't uninstall I've deleted the initrd,sysem.map and vmlinuz from /boot allready
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10:41<dvs>uju: You can't purge the package using dpkg?
10:42<uju>allready done that but dpkg breaks gives err no 127
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11:00<defcon8>hello
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11:02<kostya>Hi! anybody speak Russian???
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11:05<ompaul>!ru
11:05<dpkg>Это английскоговорящий канал, пожалуйста, говорите по-английски или посетите #debian-russian (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian)
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11:13<vrkalak>!russian
11:13<dpkg>Это английскоговорящий канал, пожалуйста, говорите по-английски или посетите #debian-russian (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian)
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11:15<uju>vrkalak plz in english my russian is not so perfect
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11:44<ext5>hey i cant get debain wheezy bluetooth to send or recieve
11:45<ext5>how can i make it work
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11:47<Calinou>!debain
11:47<dpkg>Debian! D-E-B-I-A-N! The founder of Debian was not named "Ain". Sheesh!
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11:49<EmleyMoor>ext5: Is your Bluetooth device recognised?
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12:03<mohsen>hello all
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12:12<s[7393]>what's up guys?
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12:18<mike__>hi does anyone know if visualvm is hiding somehwere in apt in wheezy?
12:18<mike__>openjdk version
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12:23<mike__>nm found it thanks :-)
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12:53<levlivnev>Hi I've been trying to set up a live usb persistent Debian on a 16GB usb drive, and I've been failing to boot before I even try to make it persistent, so I was wondering if anyone could help me.
12:53<levlivnev>pretty sure its a bootloader problem, and I know nothing about bootloaders
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12:53<levlivnev>I assure you that I've read as much as I can possibly understand from google searches and haven't been able to fix it.
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14:54<ananurdiana>hi
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15:23<scisteffan>Hello, I would like to install debian from a CD drive on a HP Brio PC that is 12 years old. Is the current intaller capable of this (32 bit)?
15:23<scisteffan>if so, is there a certain way that I should burn the CD? I am using Mac OS X 10.8 on a Macbook Pro to write the CD
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15:31<davis776>Hello, anybody can help me with IPv6 setting? I have set IPv6+mask+gateway but when trying to ping my server via IPv6 it return "Request timed out."
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16:23<pajaro>what would be the proper package to install in a laptop for laptop things? I just apt-get installed laptop-task and attached usb mouse and keyboard seems to running even worse than before (it also installs stuff like samba-common... not really sure why)
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16:35<Posterdati>please I need help with wheezy amd64 + kdescreensaver, I configured it in systemsettings, but screensaver and powersaving won't work
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17:46<crismblog>am înțeles
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18:04<levlivnev>Does anyone here dual boot debian on a macbook?
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18:04<levlivnev>(or mac in general)
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18:10<froylan>panties
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18:19<abrotman>levgrrr
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19:09<ring1>is it possible to use a version number in provides of the equivs control file on debian? i always get "Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp" after installing the newley created package
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19:11<themill>no
19:11<daemonkeeper>dpkg does not support versioned provides.
19:11<dpkg>i don't know, daemonkeeper
19:11<daemonkeeper>Now you do, dpkg.
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19:16<ring1>alright, is there any way to work around it?
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19:24<ring2>i assume there is no workaround?
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22:31<ext5>hey is it possiable to install bitcoind on wheezy?
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23:15<dragondon__>greetings all! Does anyone know an easy way to look at ip addresses obtained by firestarter and resolve them to countries?
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