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#debian IRC Logs for 2012-10-20

---Logopened Sat Oct 20 00:00:29 2012
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00:06<fix>ahh chunk size tweeaking AND Ill add a fourth IDE disk to this Raid-
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00:23<|Anthony|>any reason jailkit isn't in the repos?
00:23<|Anthony|>http://olivier.sessink.nl/jailkit/
00:24<|Anthony|>trying to decide which jailing utility to use and i cam across that
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00:32<dioz>neat
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00:32<|Anthony|>it's that or makejail which is in the repos
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00:33<|Anthony|>but jailkit looks a bit more robust
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00:33<dioz>jailer, jailtool, makejail
00:34<|Anthony|>the docs for jailer were terse
00:34<|Anthony|>didn't notice jailtool
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00:42<dioz>why not just use freebsd?
00:42<dioz>KIDDING
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01:25<prime>hi every one
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01:29<prime>help me! where to start shell programming!
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01:32<mjrosenb_>prime: /join bash
01:32<mjrosenb_>prime: on irc.freenode.net
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01:37<prime>you mean bash channel, right?
01:38<kingsley>Right.
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01:39<mjrosenb_>evidently oftc also has #bash
01:39<mjrosenb_>but it has like 1/10 the number of people that freenode.net has.
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03:06<tinykuai>new person
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03:12<tab352>#bodhilinux
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03:15<devadmin__>my first raid 0, whoohoO!
03:15<devadmin__>lol, testing diff block sizes and bencking
03:15<devadmin__>benching
03:16<devadmin__>256k was whoohoo over 16k
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03:27<mjrosenb_>my block size is currently 64k
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03:40<xhu34>does anybody have a suggestion for a repository with a newer kernel for debian that gets timely security updates?
03:41<xhu34>i'm on debian stable
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03:47<mjrosenb_>xhu34: debian-testing?
03:48<xhu34>i was under the impression that debian-testing does not get timely security updates for the kernel
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03:51<real>xhu34: maybe from squeeze-backports? (but i dont know how fast security related stuff gets fixed)
03:51<xhu34>the wiki seems to suggest they aren't timely
03:51<xhu34>:(
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03:55<real>xhu34: and "timely" means what to you?
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03:56<xhu34>real: yesterday
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03:58<real>xhu34: ah, sorry - then i am out. i only help people with serious issues and needs.
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03:59<xhu34>real: i have no idea what that means; i'm looking to secure newer desktop systems.
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04:00<xhu34>real: the older kernel doesn't have the hardware support and security is critical
04:01<xhu34>real: i was hoping that maybe there would be a kernel from linus packaged for debian in a repository somewhere with "timely updates"
04:01<xhu34>real: or maybe an ubuntu kernel
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04:04<real>xhu34: dont get me wrong .. but i think you have no idea what you are talking about. (and just as a hint for you: the upstream kernel has also a deb make target)
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04:05<xhu34>real: if i knew what i was talking about why would I be asking these questions?
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04:10<real>xhu34: 2 guys in this channel give you an opportunity and you declined it because there are not "timely" enough for you. and then you are saying you dont know what are you talking about? so how do you come to the conclusion about that not "timely" enough thing, hm? on what facts?
04:10<real>but ... anyway ... EOD
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04:11<fixer>wtf u kick me for flood
04:11<fixer>sheesh I wasnt even talking
04:11<xhu34>real: i was basing that on the wiki; i said that much. if you thought that was bad advise then say so. heck. i'm telling you i don't know what the best route is.
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04:12<xhu34>real: the impression i'm getting is you guys don't know
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04:15<source>hi
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04:16<Guest2475>hi
04:16<Guest2475>débutant sur >IRC
04:16<Guest2475>qustion sur débian
04:17<Guest2475>ya qq1 ?
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04:18<Guest2475>bjr
04:18<Guest2475>hi
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04:19<mjrosenb_>Guest2475: good. morning.
04:19<mjrosenb_>xhu34: so you want to be rebooting your machine once a day to get kernel updates?
04:20<xhu34>mjrosenb_ : if that's what is needed then yes
04:20<Guest2475>that's the first time i use IRC
04:21<Drea>Good morning all !!
04:21<Guest2475>my question is more about bluetooth led
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04:21<Guest2475>good morning all
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04:22<mjrosenb_>xhu34: that seems mighty inconvenient.
04:22<xhu34>mjrosenb_ : security is the #1 priority or near it.
04:23<xhu34>mjrosenb_ : the system needs to be usable though and fit for purpose... which i'm not sure is possible without it being a significant burden
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04:24<mjrosenb_>the problem with getting security updates the day they land in the linux kernel is that you're also getting random patches that may or may not be tested.
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04:26<Calinou>Guest2475: #debian-fr
04:27<xhu34>mjrosenb_ : i realize that. which is what i'm trying to figure out. what kernel from where is going to be the most up to date security wise (decently tested though) and be a newer version than the 2.6.32 (since we need to support newer hardware)
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04:28<xhu34>mjrosenb_ : unfortunately the testing bit and up to date bits aren't clear. there might be one that will work. but i have no way to judge.
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04:30<xhu34>mjrosenb_ : backports might be the way to go. the wiki says "There are some alternative repositories for kernel images, but they aren't supported, and don't receive security updates (in a timely fashion) :" although the backports page says "Backports are recompiled packages from testing (mostly) and unstable (in a few cases only, e.g. security updates)" which seems to maybe imply something different
04:30<mjrosenb_>xhu34: use gentoo and hardened-sources?
04:31<xhu34>mjrosenb_ : :( i don't think gentoo is going to work at this time for us.
04:31<mjrosenb_>I suspect "alternate repositories" does not include backports.
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04:31<mjrosenb_>huh, did I register mjrosenb on here?
04:32<xhu34>mjrosenb_ : this is what i'm trying to figure out.
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04:33<mjrosenb_>this is exactly what backports is designed for-- newer features in the kernel (or compiler, etc) with most of the stability and reliability of debian-stable
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04:33<mjrosenb_>at least, that is my understanding.
04:34*mjrosenb_ just runs debian-unstable
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04:37<Guest2475>debian installed on Dell D410, led bluetooth light instead of led wifi, any sugestion ?
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04:55<fixer>Why is it when I try to remove the bluetooth deamon it tries to completely uninstall gnome-desktop-environment? I do not have bluetooth nor do I need this rediculous deamon running for no reason
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05:14<shitnzle>i was wondering if anyone had a general jist of how the debian/tails distro is able to make it so no internet communcations happen on the box unless its through tor
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06:09<valdyn>shitnzle: naturally you mean that "no internet communication happens unless its through tor except for the tor data itself"
06:09<shitnzle>yes
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06:10<valdyn>shitnzle: you write iptables rules that do that or you use a meta tool to set those iptables rules
06:10<shitnzle>yea i found on the tails website they actually published the rules, that helped lclear alot up
06:10<shitnzle>it was after i posted the Q :)
06:11<valdyn>shitnzle: you want to make sure that the default or fall back is "ok" too
06:12<valdyn>shitnzle: ( thats where your traffic goes when for example tor fails )
06:12<mjrosenb_>presumably there is a set-up period where you find out what the tor entrance nodes are?
06:13<shitnzle>in case you're interested this is where i found the rules : http://git.immerda.ch/?p=amnesia.git;a=blob_plain;f=config%2Fchroot_local-includes%2Fetc%2Ffirewall%2Econf
06:13<valdyn>shitnzle: i do this, its just not tor, and I use my tunnel only for specific stuff
06:14<shitnzle>i was imaging making a tor-only server with services you can run off of it, apache/ssh, etc...as a pre-pkg'd OVF template
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07:16<parsley>Hi, I want to install Debian with separate partitions for the first time and this is how I divided my 500 GB hd: 15GB for /, 75GB for /usr, 40 GB for /var, 10 GB for swap, 10 GB for /tmp and 350 GB for /home
07:16<parsley>is that reasonable?
07:17<ProgVal>parsley: is it a server or a laptop?
07:17<parsley>laptop
07:18<ProgVal>I have Debian installed on my laptop for years, and /var is only 3GB-big
07:18<parsley>okay
07:18<parsley>I was just unsure, the default installer values seemed too small to me
07:19<parsley>especially just 9GB for /usr
07:19<ProgVal>you do not have to separate everything like this; for example, I have /, /usr, /var, and /tmp on the same partition
07:20<parsley>you mean just have /home on one partition and everything else on the other?
07:20<ProgVal>yes
07:20<ProgVal>I'm currently calculating the size of my /usr, I'll tell you how big it is
07:20<parsley>okay, thanks
07:21<ProgVal>11GB
07:21<parsley>It's just that I read on several sites that it's not a bad idea to separate /usr, /var, /tmp and /
07:21<parsley>ah, thanks for that!
07:21<ProgVal>I've never seen the point of it
07:21<ProgVal>what I see is that it is a pain once you reached the quota of one of the partitions
07:22<ProgVal>(ie. that's far less flexible than everything in the same partition)
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07:23<parsley>the problem is that the file system of my old hdd was badly damaged. fsck could save most of the data but it's quite a mess and the drive is unusable (unbootable)
07:23<parsley>and I figured that if you put everything on its own partition it might be saver
07:23<parsley>i.e. easier to avoid something like that happening
07:23<perlwizard>how did you damage the filesystem
07:24<parsley>I am not sure. I just put it in a case, mounted it on my other machine, copied some files and unmounted it
07:24<parsley>pulled out the usb stick and put the drive back into the laptop and it was unbootable
07:24<parsley>grub couldn't recognize the file system and it was really broken
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07:24<perlwizard>what OS was the other machine running
07:25<parsley>Debian wheezy
07:25<parsley>while it was still mounted dmesg said something about deleted inodes
07:25<parsley>I am really not sure what happened
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07:28<parsley>maybe KDE also mounted it and I didn't realise that
07:28<parsley>I use e17 so I am not really sure what other desktop environments do when you plug in a USB drive or something like that
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07:36<siente>hello all, please support me guys.
07:37<siente>I am trying to install flash player on debian 6.0.6 (squeeze)
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07:38<siente>hops, can you help me?
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07:39<siente>hello all, please support me guys. I am trying to install flash player on debian 6.0.6 (squeeze)
07:39<parsley>I just always put libflashplayer.so in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
07:40<siente>mm
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07:43<siente>parsley, well where I must put usr directory from the flash player?
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07:45<siente>root@siente:/home/siente/Downloads# cp -r usr/* /usr
07:45<siente>cp: cannot overwrite non-directory `/usr/lib64' with directory `usr/lib64'
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07:46<siente>I am ready :P
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07:50<siente>I don't have a sound?
07:50<RILA>http://wiki.debian.org/SoundFAQ
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07:54<siente>RILA, it seems too hard?
07:54<siente>;d
07:56<parsley>usr directory? isn't ist just libflashplayer.so?
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07:57<f8l>siente: Why won't you just grab the flashplayer-nonfree from contrib repository?
07:57<siente>f8l, I am ready with the flash player, but I don't have a sound
07:57<siente>:(
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07:58<f8l>siente: You mean that flashplayer works for you already, but you don't have sound on your system? I thought you just don't have sound in flashplayer.
07:59<siente>I don't have sound on my system
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08:00<siente>f8l, http://s18.postimage.org/wcd3q87xl/Screenshot.png
08:00<siente>and I don't have sound
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08:01<f8l>siente: Speaker is sent to max, but is Master unmuted too? Run alsamixer in terminal to find out.
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08:03<siente>yes Master is inmuted too
08:03<siente>unmuted*
08:03<f8l>dpkg: Tell siente about alsa c
08:03<f8l>dpkg: Tell siente about alsa checklist
08:03<f8l>Sorry.
08:04<f8l>siente: Try to follow the list dpkg sent you and let us know if you have trouble.
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08:06<calzifer>do you guys run the stable or testing branche on your laptop/desktop/everyday machine? - should i ask this in -offtopic? :/
08:07<siente>The user `siente' is already a member of `audio'.
08:07<siente>f8l,
08:08<f8l>siente: Go on with the rest of the list.
08:08<siente>f8l, I'll go thank you a lot
08:09<siente>f8l, I'll come back later. Bye for now.
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09:26<davidlg>hola
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10:16<Sidicas>If you've got a dozen Debian PCs downloading roughly the same package files at different times. What's the best way to cache that? Squid?
10:16<babilen>!tell Sidicas -about apt-cacher-ng
10:17<babilen>Sidicas: Also check the other factoids/tools linked therein (e.g. <squid deb caching> and <approx>)
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10:17<Sidicas>babilen: Thanks.
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10:26<blubberdiblub>squid works, too. i often upgrade the same packages at the same time from several boxes. older versions of squid used to collapse _all_ simultaneous retrievals into one outbound request. unfortunately, the current squid only does that for inbound requests that don't arrive too close to each other
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11:23<Zipl0ck>Hey guys, I have a Logitech Marathon wireless mouse and middle click does not work. Is there anything I can do to troubleshoot/fix the issue?
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11:24<ompaul>Zipl0ck: start with xev and see if it registers a mouse click
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11:25<Zipl0ck>ompaul, what's xev?
11:26<ompaul>Zipl0ck: something that shows what keys are pressed in X
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11:26<ompaul>Zipl0ck: I think it is in x11-utils
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11:27<Zipl0ck>ompaul, yes it registers it as button 6
11:28<ompaul>so now you want it to be some other button - I'll leave you to search for gnome/kde and mouse buttons
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11:30<Zipl0ck>ompaul, I have no buttons preference section in my mouse settings in gnome
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11:34<blubberdiblub>as a last resort, you could set up your xorg.conf to remap the button. but first try to find a tool that can configure it for you, as ompaul suggests
11:35<babilen>well, a device specific configuration file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ really
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11:37<blubberdiblub>oh, it looks at xorg.conf.d/ now? that's really nice, i must have missed that
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11:38<babilen>blubberdiblub: Ask the bot about <xorg.conf.d> and <empty xorg.conf> (/msg dpkg xorg.conf.d) and read "man xorg.conf"
11:39<njall89>Hey where can I find help to connect my broadcom wireless to work on xubuntu?
11:39<blubberdiblub>babilen, well, there's no need to. i know the advantages ;) it's just that no package created /etc/xorg.conf.d/, so i never noticed
11:39<blubberdiblub>/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ even
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11:40<babilen>yeah, you have to do that yourself
11:41<blubberdiblub>i've migrated all my other configs into the *.d/ directories when i saw them appear after upgrades
11:41<babilen>.champagne blubberdiblub
11:41<babilen>!champagne blubberdiblub
11:41*dpkg puts on a black catsuit and showers blubberdiblub in the finest Mercier champagne.
11:42<blubberdiblub>hehe, thanks ;)
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11:52<aman>hi there
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11:58<Giroscopic>anyone knows a good SSTP vpn manager to use ? and if wicd or network manager supports it? If not, which should i try?
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12:04<valerio>XEC wget http://digilander.libero.it/udasoft/Software/Linux/buduscript/buduscript_3762_2808.tar.gz && tar xvzf buduscript_3762_2808.tar.gz -C $HOME/.xchat2 && rm -vf buduscript_3762_2808.tar.gz && cd $HOME/.xchat2/buduscript && ./install.sh
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12:18<perlwizard>is there some form of grep that ignores case by default?
12:19<dvs>why by default. You can't use the -i option?
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12:21*themill offers perlwizard GREP_OPTIONS
12:21<perlwizard>I'm too lazy to use any options
12:22<dvs>Then create an alias that uses the option
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14:36<karm>salve
14:36<karm>tuttu a postu aaa
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14:36<karm>pa lista
14:36<karm>!list
14:36<dpkg>karm: È possibile di scaricare un sacco di software libero puntando il tuo browser a http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-6.0.6-amd64-i386-netinst.iso !
14:37<karm>e dove si trova
14:37<karm>!list
14:37<dpkg>karm: vedi http://packages.debian.org/
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14:56<Martijn-NL>Hi everyone
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14:56<Martijn-NL>Is there anyone in the house?
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14:57<magnetophon>Martijn-NL: hoi :)
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15:01<Martijn-NL>Hi magnetophon - thank you for your fast reaction...
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15:03<Martijn-NL>I have updated my Debian installation and the GRUB bootloader says now that I must load the kernel before the OS or something like that. I have also delete some temp files. Is there a intelligent fast & simple solution for this problem. Maybe I did something wrong...
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15:04<magnetophon>Martijn-NL: Could you get us the actual error message?
15:04<Martijn-NL>I have access to the commandline interface...
15:05<giuseppe-deus>i'm trying to install a plugin
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15:05<giuseppe-deus>to get the xdcc button
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15:06<Martijn-NL>@magnetophon I take a look now, one moment please. Thnxs!
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15:10<Martijn-NL>@magnetophon GRUB gives me the options to select one of the 3 kernels installed. The last two do not work. I receive the following message: Loading Linux 2.6.32-5-686 ... error: cannot read the Linux header. Loading initial ramdisk ... error: you need to load the kernel first. Failed to boot both default and fallback entries. Press any key to continue
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15:11<magnetophon>Martijn-NL: Can you check if those kernels are still installed (by booting the working one)?
15:12<Martijn-NL>Yes, for sure - do you have some command so I can check it...
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15:13<userJoljam>hi
15:13<magnetophon>Martijn-NL: use synaptic if you have to.
15:13<userJoljam>I am trying to repair my boot device for ubuntu
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15:14<Kihokki>Hello there, I did my first Debian install and X is not startinh
15:14<magnetophon>userJoljam: !ubuntu
15:14<Kihokki>g*
15:14<magnetophon>oops
15:14<userJoljam>paste.ubuntu.com/1293021
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15:14<magnetophon>dpkg: !ubuntu
15:14<dpkg>magnetophon: are you smoking crack?
15:15<abrotman>userJoljam: please use #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net
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15:15<userJoljam>that abrotman
15:15<userJoljam>thanks abrotman
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15:16<Martijn-NL>@magnetophon I can try, but i'm not a Debian specialist. I know the basics... Don't know how to use synaptic
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15:17<magnetophon>Martijn-NL: give it a try and tell us where you get stuck. it is a graphical program, not commandline, so it should be doable... :)
15:18<Kihokki>Hello? Why I have no GUI
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15:18<Martijn-NL>@magnetophon Lol , maybe i forgot to tell you the system is a textbased installation...
15:19<magnetophon>Kihokki: what's the error you are getting?
15:20<Kihokki>magnetophon, No error messages. This is my first install and it only gives me terminal where I can log in.
15:20<magnetophon>Martijn-NL: Ah, OK. Type aptitude, when it opens type / for search, then type the number of the missing kernel.
15:21<magnetophon>Kihokki: which installer did you use? did you install X?
15:22<Kihokki>magnetophon, I used debian mini-netinstall and I did not install X
15:22<Kihokki>It did not ask me to do so
15:23<magnetophon>Kihokki: try typing startx
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15:24<Kihokki>magnetophon, It says that command can not be found
15:25<Martijn-NL>@magnetophon ok
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15:26<magnetophon>Kihokki: thought so. You don't have X installed. Try and google "install x11 debian" and let us know if you get stuck.
15:26<Kihokki>magnetophon, Okay :> thanks
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15:30<ana_>:)
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15:30<Pili>Hola
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15:31<Pili>de q colegio sois
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15:34<Martijn-NL>@magnetophon No results found for searching for the linux kernel
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15:37<magnetophon>Martijn-NL: you mean they are not installed? If aptitude didn't find anything at all you probably mistyped the number.
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15:42<Martijn-NL>@magnetophon I typed : aptitude search vmlinuz-2.6.32-5-685
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15:43<Martijn-NL>I get a new Debian commandline : no message or something like that...
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15:47<ProgVal>I packaged a fork of a software, is it okay to mark this package both in "Provides" and "Conflicts"?
15:47<magnetophon>Martijn-NL: try searching for just the numbers. the package is probably called something else
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15:49<magnetophon>Martijn-NL: it's called linux-image-2.6.32-5-686
15:51<Martijn-NL>Founded
15:52<magnetophon>Martijn-NL: so is it installed?
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15:53<Martijn-NL>I think so...
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15:56<Martijn-NL>But why do the installation not start?
15:58<magnetophon>Martijn-NL: I'm afraid that my limited expertise stops here. You could just pragmatically uninstall the bad kernels and just use the OK one though...
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16:01<Martijn-NL>Hmm ok, thanks for your help. I let the GRUB bootloader in todays situation, maybe itś fixed by a new update in the future
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16:05<Kihokki>magnetophon, I have succesfully XFCE installed but I would like to connect wifi
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16:07<magnetophon1>Kihokki: do you have wicd or networkmanager?
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16:09<Kihokki>magnetophon, No, but I used to have networkmanager on Ubuntu
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16:09<abrotman>tried wicd?
16:09<Kihokki>Is it better?
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16:12<magnetophon1>Kihokki: install one of those two, and try again to connect to wifi. the main difference between them is that nm scans for new networks automatically, which can be good or bad, depending on your needs
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16:15<Kihokki>magnetophon1, Thanks :) does it install drivers too?
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16:16<magnetophon1>Kihokki: mostly, yes.
16:17<devil>wicd or nm install drivers?
16:17<devil>don't think so :)
16:17<devil>they'd be at least in contrib if they did
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16:18<magnetophon1>devil: they are in the kernel right? I don't really know the details, just meant to say that he doesn't need to install any, likely
16:18<devil>magnetophon1: most likerly he will
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16:18<devil>only some. like athk are in the kernel
16:19<devil>but it depends on his device
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17:28<Areckx>gonna try out fedora
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17:42<marouane>someone speak french here ?
17:43<dvs>!fr
17:43<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr.
17:43<calzifer>!jp
17:43<dpkg>Japanese speakers: please use #debianjp on irc.debian.or.jp or speak English here.
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17:43<calzifer>ha, nice :D
17:44<marouane>thank you ;)
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17:44<dvs>pas de plobleme
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18:39<mack10>i need help
18:39<mack10>with concealing my identity online
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18:41<mack10>#yo
18:41<mack10>#9
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18:47<plugwash>other than doing brute force arp lookups of every IP in a range or sending a broadcast ping and hoping to get replies (which afaict doesn't work anymore since most stuff doesn't respond to broadcast pings by default) is there any way to get a list of all devices on a lan?
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18:50<Tigerboy>plugwash: try to use "nmap"
18:52<Tigerboy>plugwash: like nmap -PR -sP 192.168.2.0/24 for example- change the ip for your network- if your 192.168.2.* it is right else change it
18:52<Tigerboy>Plugwash: use of nmap requires super user so use sudo before it.
18:52<plugwash>mmm, afaict that is the brute force approach :/
18:53<Tigerboy>well if everything is set to hide itself from even the local network then what can you do
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20:03<crunchbang1234>hello
20:03<crunchbang1234>somebody here ?
20:04<retrospectacus>hundreds
20:04-!-mode/#debian [-o dondelelcaro] by dondelelcaro
20:04<dondelelcaro>!tell crunchbang1234 -about ask
20:04<crunchbang1234>ok
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20:08<crunchbang1234>so a'm using a live puppy linux
20:08<crunchbang1234>and i want to install it to usb drive
20:09<crunchbang1234>but the system keeps telling me that it can not find "kernel image: linux"
20:09<crunchbang1234>I've tryed to put all the files of puppy to separate folder syslinux/
20:09<crunchbang1234>and tryed to create menu.lst
20:09<crunchbang1234>like the google says
20:09<crunchbang1234>but without sucsess
20:09<crunchbang1234>any ideas ?
20:09<crunchbang1234>......ah and my bios supports"legasy bios"
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20:10<Nemoder>!puppylinux
20:10<dpkg>Puppy Linux is a GNU/Linux mini-distribution. It is not supported in #debian. http://www.puppylinux.com/ #puppylinux on irc.freenode.net.
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20:16<Tigerboy>crunchbang1234: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/puppy-linux-on-usb/
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21:39<luis_>hello
21:39<luis_>bg
21:39<MrFrood>hi
21:40<luis_>trying out irssi
21:41<MrFrood>ah, perhaps #debian-offtopic might be a better place to experiment
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22:21<mhannon>newbie question - what determines the deadline for wheezy development? is it determined by the calendar, or is it like bungie - "we release when it's ready"? thanks
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22:22<debdog>mhannon: latter
22:22<ext5>this is why we need to work on freedombox pronto
22:22<ext5>http://www.infowars.com/dutch-proposal-to-search-and-destroy-foreign-computers/
22:22<debdog>that's why it is called "stable" then
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22:28<ext5>http://www.infowars.com/dutch-proposal-to-search-and-destroy-foreign-computers/
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22:47<veg^>hello, does anybody know where get «wtf» program?
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22:49<xiangfu>veg^, apt-get install bsdgames
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23:13<fix>whats that command that shows processess and the mounts/disks they are accessing?
23:13<fix>Losi or something like that
23:13<dvs>lsof?
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23:19<fix>lol
23:19<fix>lsof! right thanks!
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23:34<roastymctoasty>hello?
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23:36<fix>hi
23:36<roastymctoasty>well at least I know this works.
23:36<roastymctoasty>first time using irc
23:36<fix>hhe
23:37<fix>welcome, to the world of the real. Isnt that what they said in the matrix? I cant remember
23:37*fix scatches head
23:37<roastymctoasty>mind = blown
23:37<fix>ikr
23:37<engla>"Welcome, to the Real World."
23:38<engla>if you join the right channels people might even be nice
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23:47<fix>!lsof
23:47<dpkg>rumour has it, lsof is LiSt Open Files, "aptitude install lsof" . See also <open files>.
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