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#debian IRC Logs for 2012-10-24

---Logopened Wed Oct 24 00:00:19 2012
---Daychanged Wed Oct 24 2012
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00:01<sammy>thanks, simonlnu, I know about that command, but files were open already when I was offered the chance to enter the root password and enter maintenance mode. I could not remount read only
00:01<simonlnu>um, so you pass ro instead?
00:02<simonlnu>-o is options, remount is an option, so are ro and rw
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00:02<simonlnu>like i said, man mount
00:03<sammy>chill, friend. passing ro does not work. like I said, files are open.
00:03<simonlnu>doh. yes. failed to parse. sorry.
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00:04<simonlnu>dunno if grub2 supports it, but you can pass -b, so it skips mounting the fses
00:04*simonlnu hasn't had to do that in a while ;)
00:04<sammy>which is my point. I'm choosing an option in grub that boots with kernel options "single" and "ro" but I think it started networking which opened files. I had to "init 1" to get where I wanted to be
00:05<sammy>sorry I'm typing on mobile. little slow.
00:05<simonlnu>might have to terminate the options, like with --
00:05*simonlnu nods
00:05<simonlnu>well, -b doesn't even start networking
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00:06<sammy>that's good to know
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00:06<simonlnu>at worst, you could do init=/bin/sh or init=/bin/bash
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00:07<simonlnu>(but with bash you might open files)
00:08<simonlnu>anyway, you have options. have fun :)
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00:16<Natural>hi
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00:21<mmgc84>hellop Natural
00:21<sammy>thanks for the help. manually entering single user mode with "init 1" did the trick.
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00:21<sammy>cheers
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01:07<raul>HOLA
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01:35<localg0d>does anyone mind telling me how I take ownership of a folder and the file contents ? is it like sudo chown filenameandfolder/here/ ??
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01:49<academic>hi
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04:26<Vin3k>#3c
04:26<Vin3k>join #3c
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04:27<orangensaft8>Vin3k: try /join #3c
04:27<Vin3k>lol
04:27<piterskr>YO
04:27<Vin3k>siema
04:27<piterskr>HHEHEHE
04:27<Vin3k>co tam?
04:27<Vin3k>:D
04:27<piterskr>BILL TO PAŁA
04:27<Vin3k>haha
04:27<Vin3k>xd
04:27<Vin3k>Laski Robi
04:27<Vin3k>D
04:27<Vin3k>;d
04:27<piterskr>MAJK ZAMULA
04:27<Vin3k>i nie zna sie na linuxie pedal
04:27<Vin3k>:d
04:27<piterskr>hehehheh
04:27<Vin3k>haha
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04:28<Vin3k>slucha disco polo
04:28<Vin3k>;d
04:28<piterskr>tomo a3 ogląda
04:28<Vin3k>a9
04:28<Vin3k>;d
04:28<piterskr>hehhe
04:28<piterskr>gramy w gre
04:28<piterskr>??/
04:28<Vin3k>jaka
04:28<Vin3k>?
04:28<piterskr>teeeworlds
04:28<Vin3k>ok
04:28<piterskr>podaj serva
04:28<Vin3k>blackforcer
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04:31<piterskr>siemano
04:31<darooo>yo
04:31<TararaRikitiki>simqa xD
04:32<piterskr>blackforcer server
04:32<piterskr>na teeworlds
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04:32<darooo>nie mam tej gry;p
04:32<Vin3k>to lipton
04:32<TararaRikitiki>je tez :(
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04:33<piterskr>bill to pała
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04:33<darooo>juz instaluje
04:33<piterskr>w markecie teeworlds
04:33<Ganneff>!en
04:33<dpkg>The language of #debian is English. We will do our best to help you regardless of your level of English but you might be more comfortable asking for help in your own language. Ask me about your language code for more information, for example /msg dpkg br ; /msg dpkg pt ; /msg dpkg es ; /msg dpkg fr ; /msg dpkg de
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04:34<orangensaft8>Ganneff: i think they aren't actually talking about debian :D?
04:35<TararaRikitiki>kurw dobrze myslisz :P
04:35<piterskr>czxego sie kurwa przypierdalasz
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04:37<orangensaft8>Ganneff: you just banned everyone who uses upc as their isp, afaik
04:38<@Ganneff>what a pity. so what? (also, its temporary)
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04:39<orangensaft8>not gonna argue with the op, just saying
04:39*simonlnu adds some to the block list
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04:41<simonlnu>they were mostly from the same ip
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04:42<mochliotaki>guys anybody knows how can i see on xchat the current value of a variable?
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04:42<simonlnu>ooh, netop. :)
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04:43<@Ganneff>mochliotaki: try an xchat channel.
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04:45<t0FF>Hi
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04:46<t0FF>I'ver got a problem with apt-get and brocken packet : python-pyatspi2
04:46<t0FF>So i can't install new packet.
04:46-!-mode/#debian [+l 506] by debhelper
04:46<t0FF>Someone can help me to resolve this problem ? Thanks
04:47<SynrG>!bat
04:47<dpkg>In order for us to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: The complete output of your apt-get/aptitude/dselect run (including the command you used); the output from apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2...; for the relevant packages and "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>.
04:47<nomprover>t0FF, have you tried 'apt-get -f install'?
04:47<t0FF>ok
04:47<t0FF>thanks for answer, be back soon
04:48<t0FF>apt-get -f install do nothing
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04:50<t0FF>I think i did something bad when I tryd to use wheezy (i didn't know that was beta)
04:50<SynrG>did you completely upgrade to wheezy?
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04:51<t0FF>I think, but there is a problem, so probably not
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04:52<orangensaft8>did you upgrade with apt-get dist-upgrade? :x
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04:52<t0FF>yes
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04:54<t0FF>the problem appears when i try to make dist-upgrade
04:54<SynrG>t0FF: well, let's just see the info indicated above, then
04:54<t0FF>pastebin in 2sec
04:54*SynrG nods
04:55<jm_>2s are long gone!
04:55<t0FF>terminal is in french, can I put this in english in order to help you to anderstand the problem ?
04:55<t0FF>xD
04:55<SynrG>!localized errors
04:55<dpkg>Rather than hoping that we recognise what has gone wrong from the error messages in your native language, please provide any error messages in English. You can do this by setting your locale to an English one (e.g. C) prior to running the command, e.g. «LC_ALL=C apt-get -f install»
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04:58<t0FF>Problem (in french) : http://paste.debian.net/203223
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04:59<SynrG>t0FF: you asked how to put it in english and i gave the answer above ...
05:00<t0FF>i try to put this in english and make a second paste
05:00<jm_>and you're also missing all the other info
05:00<SynrG>in any case, i recognize that one. in fact, the man page section it refers to is helpful
05:00<t0FF>but there is the direct transtalation of the end problem : : Can not perform immediate configuration "python-pyatspi2."
05:00<SynrG>just continue with the other info in english
05:00<SynrG>don't bother redoing this one paste
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05:02<SynrG>t0FF: read that whole section of apt.conf man page on APT::Immediate-Configure and follow the advice you find there.
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05:03<antrax_>hy all
05:04<t0FF>thanks SynrG, I make a look here
05:04<SynrG>t0FF: that being said, since most of the upgrade is failing, and you indicated you weren't aware wheezy has yet released, maybe it's time to give up? how much stuff from wheezy have you already installed?
05:04<SynrG>i mean, yes, this probably is solvable if you proceed ...
05:04<SynrG>but if this has prevented the whole upgrade, and you're having second thoughts, it's your last chance to change your mind
05:05<orangensaft8>i personally never liked dist-upgrade.. i prefer a clean installation with new releases, but maybe that's just me :)
05:05<SynrG>on the other hand, if you have already installed a substantial number of packages from wheezy, undoing what you've done so far is probably going to be impractical
05:06<SynrG>orangensaft8: well, when upgrading to testing from stable, this is not technically a "new release" yet ...
05:07<t0FF>coffee time, come back soon
05:07<orangensaft8>well, you can't call it a new release, but you're basically going up the main version, that was what i meant
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05:13<SynrG>orangensaft8: my point being that the installer isn't really ready for most of the release cycle
05:15<orangensaft8>ah, right.. well, the B2 installer is working, right? since it's frozen, the installer should be Ok to use?
05:15<orangensaft8>(i used it once already, had no problems)
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05:15<SynrG>for the most part, yes
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05:16<SynrG>i guess if you do lots of random stuff to your system and you don't care about losing it on a reinstall ...
05:16<SynrG>but for me, i prefer the continuity of upgrades.
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05:17<SynrG>as for this particular issue, t0FF, this may help:
05:17<SynrG>!immediate configuration
05:17<dpkg>When upgrading from squeeze to wheezy, apt may stop with "E: Could not perform immediate configuration on '$package'." Fixing this is quite difficult and will take time... if $package isn't an Essential package, then "dpkg -r $package; apt-get -f install" will often be enough to solve the problem. If "dpkg -r" complains about dependencies, consider adding "--force-depends".
05:17<SynrG>this is such a common upgrade issue it's a part of the topic of #debian-next where we support testing/unstable
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05:21<t0FF>Ok, i found a Linux Power-User during the coffee time xD My problem is resolve just I put off wheezy depository
05:21<t0FF>Thanks a lot for your time
05:22<SynrG>t0FF: sure. so you hadn't actually succeeded at all in installing any wheezy packages yet?
05:22<SynrG>i guess it's a stroke of good luck it failed in this way, then :)
05:22<t0FF>I guess to, i really didn'nt realize that was unstable when I put this sources.list
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05:26<t0FF>and.... I'm back ! Now I remember why I wanted to make a dist-upgrade : I haven't any configuration menu in system
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05:27<SynrG>t0FF: so is that a yes or no to my final question above?
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05:28<t0FF>It's a yes : I think no one packeges of wheezy has been install
05:29<SynrG>ok. so let's tackle the configuration menu problem. are you using GNOME or something else?
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05:30<t0FF>I use Gnome
05:30<SynrG>and perhaps you've customized your panel a bit?
05:30<t0FF>The system menu start at "help"
05:30<t0FF>I can't customize
05:30<orangensaft8>(short unqualified comment: i'd just like to say that gnome 3 is cancer)
05:31<t0FF>Lol
05:31<t0FF>why ?
05:31<SynrG>orangensaft8: a) unhelpful to this discussion because this is about squeeze b) i disagree c) off-topic
05:31<orangensaft8>SynrG: that's why () and "unqualified comment"
05:32<SynrG>i have just about 3 minutes to finish up helping before i disappear towards work
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05:32<orangensaft8>i'll shut up
05:32<orangensaft8>:)
05:32<t0FF>I would like to be able to use gmd + kde + xfce in this virtual debian, but I onely know ubuntu, so i start with gdm
05:32<SynrG>gdm is not gnome, incidentally
05:33<SynrG>it is merely the program providing the greeter and managing setup of your session (which could, technically, be any kind of desktop)
05:33<t0FF>gdm is not gnome display manager ?
05:33<t0FF>Oh yes, ok i get it
05:34<SynrG>you want to be able to switch between the three, having all three installed at once?
05:34<SynrG>or you just mean you would like to try all three, one after each other?
05:34<t0FF>Yes, but it's a final dream, here I just want to have full working gnome
05:36<t0FF>I want to be able to switch : it's a vmware I use to test, so I think switch between three is perfect to make all test
05:36<SynrG>did you install the 'gnome' metapackage or something else?
05:36<SynrG>annd ... i'm out of time. gotta get my bus. good luck
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05:37<t0FF>Ok, have a good day and thanks for your time
05:37<SynrG>np
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05:43<nomprover>t0FF, if you 'apt-get install xfce4' then you can choose between GNOME and Xfce when you login.
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05:46<perlwizard>,versions perl
05:46<judd>Package: perl on i386 -- lenny: 5.10.0-19lenny5; lenny-security: 5.10.0-19lenny5; squeeze-security: 5.10.1-17squeeze2; squeeze: 5.10.1-17squeeze3; sid: 5.14.2-14; wheezy: 5.14.2-14; experimental: 5.16.1-1
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05:46<perlwizard>5.10 :/
05:48<orangensaft8>huh, .versions?
05:48<orangensaft8>.versions pidgin
05:48<orangensaft8>,versions pidgin
05:48<judd>Package: pidgin on i386 -- lenny: 2.4.3-4lenny8; lenny-security: 2.4.3-4lenny8; lenny-backports: 2.7.3-1~bpo50+2; squeeze: 2.7.3-1+squeeze3; squeeze-proposed-updates: 2.7.3-1+squeeze3; squeeze-security: 2.7.3-1+squeeze3; wheezy: 2.10.6-1+b1; sid: 2.10.6-2
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05:49<orangensaft8>nice tool
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05:49<t0FF>what is the command to use change in network/interfaces
05:49<t0FF>?
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05:51<none>when and how switch gnome to nfc4 ?
05:51<t0FF>ifconfig eth0 up
05:51<simonlnu>!ifupdown
05:51<dpkg>Your network configuration is in the file /etc/network/interfaces ; "man 5 interfaces" for documentation, "zless /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz" for example configurations. Start and stop your networking with ifup -a and ifdown -a respectively. See also <dhcp client>, <resolv.conf>, <static route>.
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05:59<t0FF>thanks
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06:03<none>HELP: I installed XFC4 ..... now this is the question ""how switch gnome to xfc4 ?""
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06:06<nevyn>none: logoff select xfce4 logon?
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06:07<orangensaft8>yeah, you should be able to choose the desktop environment / window manager on login
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06:08<nomprover_>none, log out, then choose xfce in the menu in the login screen
06:10<XReaper>^ easy peasy :)
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06:21<none>orangesaft ... my panel cannot permit to choose
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06:26<WeirdAAR>Hey guys. I'm trying to install sun java. I added contrib non-free to my sources list, and updated apt but still can't install the sun java. Can't see what I'm doing wrong. Any ideas ?
06:29<simonlnu>there is no sun java. openjdk.
06:30<orangensaft8>none: are you sure you completely installed xfce4?
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06:31<orangensaft8>,versions sun-java6-jre
06:31<judd>Package: sun-java6-jre on i386 -- lenny/non-free: 6-26-0lenny1; squeeze/non-free: 6.26-0squeeze1
06:31<antrax>hy all
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06:35<simonlnu>ok, i was wrong, obviously ;)
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06:42<SynrG>none: at the graphical login screen, what do you see? there should be a way to select your session type.
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06:53<mohamad>hi
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06:55<ahmed>higaes
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06:56<none>SynrG thanks i can just chose name and password no support to choose window manager
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07:08<SynrG>none: are you using gdm?
07:09<none>yes
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07:10<none>SynrG ...may be neext version i don remeber
07:10<SynrG>none: gdm3? as soon as you select the username, options appear at the bottom
07:10<SynrG>those options are for locale, keyboard, and session
07:11<SynrG>(at least using the default gdm3 theme, they're at the bottom)
07:11<SynrG>so, then you select the session, and *then* you enter the password
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07:12<TobiX>SynrG: What, gdm can switch locale? I honestly did not know that. Is it really part of the theme if it is shown or not?
07:12<SynrG>TobiX: i'm looking at it right now in a live image
07:13<SynrG>hmm, it says "Languages"
07:13<SynrG>i assume that's locale
07:13<SynrG>it defaults to English (United States) and also has "Other..."
07:13<SynrG>which shows me a list only containing English (United States). how useful :)
07:14<SynrG>but that's because that's the only locale i generated on this box
07:14<SynrG>er, on this live image i mean
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07:15<none>SynrG none wmanager is non supported
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07:16<SynrG>none: i don't understand. in gdm3 if you click on your username, do you see any changes to gdm3's display?
07:17<SynrG>that is, just click on the username and don't enter your password yet
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07:21<none>SynrG may be i use gmd2
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07:23<SynrG>none: dpkg -l gdm gdm3
07:24<SynrG>if gdm, i don't remember how that looks. my impression was that it, too, had a way to select session from the menu. it just looked a little different.
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07:33<none>synrg i'll try to choose from manager application thanks
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07:44<sifu_>I have installed Debian Squeeze on a single partition and used a swap file; but the system becomes slow; Can I resize the 40GB partition to make a swap partition? how?
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07:45<jm_>why do you think that will speed it up?
07:45<jm_>but yeah, it's certainly possible to resize partitions
07:46<lupine_85>swap files aren't noticeably slower than partitions
07:46<lupine_85>certainly not compared to the difference in speed between either and pure RAM
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07:53<nocturnal>does anyone recognize this issue? http://pastebin.com/rSqBhGvs FYI treesize is just a script for du with some sorting and formatting using awk. I am not using LVM unfortunately and it's a virtual machine.
07:53<nocturnal>plenty of inodes free on /
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07:53<nocturnal>situation is worsened by an important partition after /
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08:06<sifu_>jm_: my previous installation had a swap partition and system didnt slow
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08:08<jm_>sifu_: I doubt this will resolve your issues, but feel free to try it
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08:13<sifu_>jm_: i wanted to repack packages on aptoncd iso files that's why i needed a bigger partition; but the performance is slow on such a big partition
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09:00<orangensaft8>so apparently, the amd graphics card driver is a .sh file. how would i manage to get the drivers on a live system?
09:02<orangensaft8>ũh, sorry, .run, not .sh
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09:09<alejandro>iee nano
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09:13<SynrG>orangensaft8: by a process of discovery of what the .run actually installs, then extract out all those files into a tree to include in your live-build configuration.
09:13<SynrG>then run lb to build a live image with your material included
09:14<SynrG>that would at least make it into a repeatable recipe. otherwise, if you're just using a stock live system image and aren't interested in building your own, turn on persistence, run the script inside the live system, reboot
09:14<SynrG>but that's not quite as useful. depends on what your goal is :)
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09:16<orangensaft8>my goal is to boot into the live system
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09:16<jose>ola
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09:16<orangensaft8>everything i try fails because https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=4489657533284&set=a.1164395403809.25784.1645603821&type=1
09:16<SynrG>orangensaft8: is this for long-term use of the image? do you want to be able to build other images?
09:16<jose>ola ijos de puta
09:16<SynrG>or is this just a one-off?
09:16<alejandro>hijosdeputa
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09:17<Maulkin>!es-social
09:17<dpkg>Este canal es de ayuda con ordenadores en Ingles. Si no necesitas ayuda con tu ordenador por favor ingresa al canal social de #debian-es con /join #debian-es-cachondeo. Tus amigos probablemente ya esten ahi.
09:18<orangensaft8>SynrG: basically i want to install debian 7, which works, then on reboot that screen ^
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09:18<SynrG>orangensaft8: by 'live' system you don't mean a live system then. you just mean your actual system?
09:19<orangensaft8>i want to get the live system to boot, it's faster than changing the installation image and reinstalling with every change :p
09:19<SynrG>so you really do mean a live CD or USB image?
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09:19<orangensaft8>usb
09:20<orangensaft8>well, i used a live image on a usb stick
09:20<orangensaft8>first i and a few others thought it would be a RAM error, but if the ram was faulty, the installation wouldn't work, right?
09:20<SynrG>it's possible you could use persistence for this. however, if it's messing with the initrd, you need to be using latest live-tools
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09:21<SynrG>(i *think* the wheezy alpha2 images include this)
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09:21<alejandro>hi
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09:21<jose>olaaa
09:21<SynrG>Maulkin: they didn't take the hint
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09:21<orangensaft8>+q?
09:21<Maulkin>!tell jose about es-social
09:22<SynrG>orangensaft8: quiet
09:22<orangensaft8>so basically a reverse +v, nice
09:22*SynrG nods
09:22<orangensaft8>anyways. persistence?
09:22<orangensaft8>!persistence
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09:22<SynrG>orangensaft8: take it to #debian-live ?
09:22<SynrG>this could get technical
09:23<orangensaft8>oki
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09:33<jose>pli
09:33<jose>plis support
09:34<perlwizard>jose hello
09:34<Maulkin>!ask
09:34<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
09:34<jose>problen to debian
09:34<jose>runnig
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09:35<alejandro>hola negras
09:35<sara>Holaaaa
09:35<Maulkin>!es
09:35<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
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09:40<peter1138>What is it with clones these days o_O
09:40<orangensaft81>someone's bored
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11:35<fanava>hello all
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11:36<fanava>LOL
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12:02<Leololo>good afternoon
12:02<Leololo>exists as the time that the client get ip from the DHCP server it runs some script together? type pull him alone?
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---Logopened Wed Oct 24 12:44:23 2012
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12:54<orangensaft8>,versions firmware-nonfree
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12:54<judd>No package named 'firmware-nonfree' was found in i386.
12:54<orangensaft8>oops.
12:55<orangensaft8>,versions firmware-linux-nonfree
12:55<judd>Package: firmware-linux-nonfree on i386 -- lenny-backports/non-free: 0.27~bpo50+1; squeeze/non-free: 0.28+squeeze1; squeeze-backports/non-free: 0.35~bpo60+1; sid/non-free: 0.36; wheezy/non-free: 0.36
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12:59<SynrG>orangensaft8: in fact, it's best if you just message judd privately to get that info if it's just for private use
13:00<orangensaft8>sorry :)
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13:00<orangensaft8>will do next time, of course i know how annoying it is when people spam the chat.. completely forgot about queries :D
13:00<SynrG>np
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13:12<windy>ola!
13:12<windy>ummmm
13:12<windy>._____.??? hollaaaaaaaa
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13:13<windy>u.u
13:13<retrospectacus>windy: are you lost?
13:13<windy>nu
13:15<windy>:( im lost!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
13:15<orangensaft8>what are you searching? :)
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13:16<Mendes>t3?
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13:17<windy>umm
13:18<windy>orangensf_ are you speak spain :s
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13:18<windy>o.o
13:19<retrospectacus>!es-social
13:19<dpkg>Este canal es de ayuda con ordenadores en Ingles. Si no necesitas ayuda con tu ordenador por favor ingresa al canal social de #debian-es con /join #debian-es-cachondeo. Tus amigos probablemente ya esten ahi.
13:19<windy>ohhhh ok :P
13:19<retrospectacus>:)
13:20<windy>ªJJªJJªJª nap tengo problema en mi computadora =P
13:21<windy>×Ð
13:22<windy>oiiiii si tengo un problema k hago????
13:22<retrospectacus>Este canal es de ayuda con ordenadores en INGLES
13:22-!-phdeswer [~phdeswer@a88-115-16-102.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #debian
13:22<windy>-.-
13:22<retrospectacus>Si necesitas ayuda ingresa al canal #debian-es
13:23<windy>>_> ya me he enteraooooo O_O
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13:23<windy>:/
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13:25<windy>goodbye to all your computers hope this fixed ;)
13:26<retrospectacus>have a nice day !
13:26<windy>:D see you!!!
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13:28<Mendes> /server chat.freenode.net
13:28<windy>retrospestacus you are a moderator of this room :P
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13:29<retrospectacus>windy: no, I just try to help everyone go to the right place
13:29<windy>om
13:30<windy>by£ ToT
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13:39<|Anthony|>i setup encryption when installing debian, but no longer want it
13:39<|Anthony|>is there a way to disable that?
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13:40<dondelelcaro>|Anthony|: you'll have to copy the filesystem back out, and then remove the luks layer, and recreate lvm or whatever on top of it
13:40<dondelelcaro>|Anthony|: it's not exactly a simple process
13:40<|Anthony|>oh that sucks
13:40<|Anthony|>fml
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13:41<|Anthony|>and i suppose there is no way to have it auto entered
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13:41<|Anthony|>heh that would defeat the purpose i know
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13:42<|Anthony|>i'd be better off reinstalling the system since it is a fresh install and nothing of importance has been done on it
13:42<|Anthony|>fml
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13:43<abel>Hi, I get some troubles with setting my network on wheezy, could anybody help me ?
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13:44<abel>I'm coming from ubuntu, there everything was automatic
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13:44*Xires hands abel a tissue
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13:45<Xires>Debian teaches people to blow their own nose
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13:45<abel>difficult difficult
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13:46<retrospectacus>!tell abel about wireless
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13:46<abel>ok, My chip is a broadcom
13:47<abel>i just followed this wiki http://wiki.debian.org/wl
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13:55<|Anthony|>during install "Starting up the partitioner" gets stuck at 40%
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13:56<|Anthony|>anyway to nudge it along, or to see the issue?
13:57<retrospectacus>press Alt-F4 to see a log
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14:48<orangensaft8>ok, so i'm reinstalling debian 7.. with the nonfree installer.. is there anything i should do after it's done installing to make sure everything is properly installed?? (before the reboot)
14:48<retrospectacus>no
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14:52<steve464646>orangensaft8: what do you mean the 'non-free' installer
14:52<orangensaft8>the unofficial installer
14:52<steve464646>the 'testing' installer?
14:52<orangensaft8>ja
14:52<steve464646>what url did you find it at?
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14:53<orangensaft8>i can't remember. how is that important? :X
14:53<sheriff>hello guys, can somebody help me installing cgi-bin to apache2 under debian
14:53<steve464646>the 'testing' insaller sucks
14:53<orangensaft8>argh, i just noticed that i'm supposed to write in #debian-next for wheezy. sorry!
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14:54<steve464646>I've had 0 successful installs using the testing installer, either using the weekly snapshots OR the beta 2 of wheezy
14:54<steve464646>orangensaft8: The recommended way to get 'testing' is to do a minimal install of <stable> and then update your sources.list
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14:55<sheriff>guys any body knows apache2 good?
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14:55<dondelelcaro>sheriff: best to just ask your question
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14:55<orangensaft8>steve464646: the installers worked fine for me :)
14:55<steve464646>sheriff: sorry, have only installed apache, not much experience outside of that
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14:55<steve464646>orangensaft8: referring to your original question, you can just reboot
14:55<sheriff>I installed apache2 under debian but cgi does not work ... I need some help because I tried all what i can
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14:57<steve464646>orangensaft8: when i installed testing it wasn't until about a week later that i realized that man packages weren't quite working right
14:57<steve464646>things like the xfce pdf reader, sound mixer
14:57<steve464646>but if it works for you, awesome
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15:13<Posterdati>is there anyone running vice on debian wheezy (amd64)? thanks!
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15:14<TobiX>Posterdati: I have it installed...
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15:15<Posterdati>TobiX: yes, I didn't recall how to launch it
15:15<Posterdati>x64 ...
15:15<Posterdati>x128 ...
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15:27<Gorosito>hola
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15:40<Salvi>hola a todos
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16:07<Guest3037>boot rescatux
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16:09<Guest3037>como botear rescatux
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16:15<TobiX>Posterdati: Sorry, my internet is a bit flaky today. Have you installed the vice roms?
16:16<Posterdati>I've got debian package, no roms in it
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16:19<Guest3037>hello, how to make a boot disk resa
16:19<TobiX>Posterdati: Look into /usr/share/doc/vice/README.ROMs ...
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16:19<Guest3037>hello, how to make a boot disk Rescatux
16:20<retrospectacus>Guest3037: this channel is for Debian support
16:21<Posterdati>TobiX: I do not recall if I downloaded roms this way
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16:26<Posterdati>Error - ROM /usr/lib/vice/C128/kernal: short file.
16:26<Posterdati>TobiX: Error - ROM /usr/lib/vice/C128/kernal: short file.
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16:33<TobiX>Posterdati: Hmm... Strange...
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16:38<TobiX>Posterdati: But indeed. The C64 emulator works, C128 fails...
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16:38<Posterdati>TobiX: MPS-803: Error - Could not load MPS-803 charset 'mps803'.
16:40<TobiX>Posterdati: You need the ROMs from the current release apparently...
16:40<Posterdati>yes
16:40<Posterdati>I downloaded it
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16:41<TobiX>Posterdati: So the instructions in README.ROMs are wrong :(
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16:42<Posterdati>TobiX: not working! Palette: Loading palette `/usr/lib/vice/PRINTER/mps803.vpl'. Received signal 4.
16:42<Posterdati>SIGILL (Illegal instruction) @ 0 (0) --- write(1, "Received signal 4.\n", 19Received signal 4. ) = 19
16:43<Posterdati>another crapware in the debian family! :)
16:43<retrospectacus>can you guys go talk about whatever you're talking about somewhere else
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16:43<TobiX>Posterdati: Report a bug, please
16:43<Posterdati>retrospectacus: it's debian related
16:43<TobiX>retrospectacus: He tries to get the vice Debian package to work, where should we go?
16:44<Posterdati>TobiX: someone already reported it
16:44<retrospectacus>a private message
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16:44<TobiX>Posterdati: What CPU do you have? i386/amd64?
16:44<Posterdati>amd64
16:45<TobiX>Interesting. Never knew that SIGILL is possible on amd64...
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16:46<engla>x86-64 is x86-compatible so it should be possible..
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16:46<Posterdati>x86_64 was released by amd
16:47<TobiX>Well, see #686400 - it seems to use SSE3, which is not available on all amd64 CPUs...
16:47<Posterdati>TobiX: I'm trying to apt-build the application
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16:48<TobiX>Posterdati: If you desperatly want to run it, either rebuild the package or run it through qemu ;)
16:48<Posterdati>let's try to rebuild it
16:49<vook>clear
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16:53<smart>hi
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16:54<pajaro>is there a way to list the keys you have signed?
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16:55<Posterdati>TobiX: compiling...
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17:01<Posterdati>TobiX: done! It is working
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17:43<mjrosenb_>hey all, is there a reason that oprofile isn't in the apt tree?
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17:47<themill>,bug 653168
17:47<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/653168 in ftp.debian.org (done): «RM: oprofile - unmaintained, replacements exist, buggy, low popcon»; severity: normal; opened: 2011-12-24; last modified: 2012-01-25.
17:47<themill>mjrosenb_: ^^
17:47<mjrosenb_>:(
17:48*mjrosenb_ checks to see what the "replacements" are
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17:52<mjrosenb_>themill: so that bug looks like I can't comment on it?
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17:53<themill>there's nothing more to say about it. If you would like to suggest that it should be re-included in debian, then you can "/msg dpkg rfp". Or, better, perhaps you would like to do the work to have it included in debian? /msg dpkg itp ; /msg dpkg nmg
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17:54<mjrosenb_>themill: ok, just one of the complaints is "hasn't been updated since 2009", but there have been updates in august 2011 and august 2012
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17:57<themill>mjrosenb_: that might be relevant to its future re-inclusion but is not relevant to its removal in the past.
17:57<mjrosenb_>indeed.
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20:59<gh0st_>did kubuntu.org get defaced?
21:00<gh0st_>the index page
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21:24<pc-9_>лол
21:24<pc-1>лол
21:24<pc-1>дура
21:24<pc-1>крыса
21:25<rainfyre>pc-1: pc-9_ how interesting that you both have the same ip address ...
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21:34<glitch>how do I log off of this server so I can use my name on an other server
21:35<glitch>?
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21:40<glitch>anyone feel like helping a noob to irc ?
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21:44<glitch>hello?
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21:56<jspiros>is there some way that I can tell apt-get to remove everything except a given package and all of its dependencies?
21:56-!-Tukeke [~Tukeke@190.78.163.8] has joined #debian
21:56<jspiros>or, alternatively, is there some other way to "restore" a system to the base set of packages as would be installed with a fresh install?
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21:58<engla>jspiros: first of all, apt-get autoremove will remove packages that are automatically installed and unneeded after some removal
21:58<engla>jspiros: there is also debfoster that can easily remove tons of packages
21:59<jspiros>wonderful, debfoster looks like what I need
21:59<jspiros>and autoremove isn't helpful in this case, though I am generally aware of it :)
21:59*jspiros wonders if debfoster was named alongside deborphan
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22:01<glitch>hello
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22:01<engla>hi
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22:12<ico0on>hi
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22:15<glitch>omg i think i did it...
22:16<glitch>can you read what i type?
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22:17<glitch>anyone?
22:18<glitch>I need to know if i"m still a ghost
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22:22<glitch>okay lets see if those commands worked...
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22:22<glitch>is anyone out there?
22:24<glitch>testing
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22:28<glitch>is anyone out there?
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22:29<glitch>hello?
22:29<blarson>glitch: no
22:29<glitch>I did it!
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22:29<glitch>thank you
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22:31<glitch>now how to I leave all channels, and exit this server so I can join an other with this name?
22:32<glitch>anyone?
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23:37<sele>hi
23:38<jeep>hi sele
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23:48<glitch>how do I get my keyboard shortcuts to work in the gui on xubuntu live with persistence?
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23:55<glitch>bye guys
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