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#debian IRC Logs for 2012-10-27

---Logopened Sat Oct 27 00:00:54 2012
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00:18<cassio>Só uma coisa , não sei como isso funciona
00:18<Infiltrator>cassio: What language?
00:19<cassio>Portuguese
00:19<Infiltrator>!pt
00:19<dpkg>Por favor use #debian-pt para ajuda em portugues ou #debian-br para ajuda em portugues do brasil. ( /join #debian-pt )
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00:21<cassio>Eu sei português ,o infrator que perguntou em inglês e português em inglês , é claro que você está me entendo...
00:22<cassio>respondi portuguese rsrsr
00:22<cassio>é a primeira vez aqui
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00:23<cassio>dpkg ; pode me explicar como isso funciona
00:23<dpkg>cassio: are you smoking crack?
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00:24<Latino>cassio, pregunta em ingles
00:25<Latino>cassio, what's wrong?
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00:28<cassio>dpkg;She would not answer but since you asked not. But I'll still try it because it should be good as addictive on the first
00:28<dpkg>cassio: You are person #1 to send an unparseable request
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00:30<cassio>dpkg;And last, I will not go out and get more
00:30<dpkg>parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, cassio
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00:34<Infiltrator>cassio: Get more what? Please join #debian-pt.
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00:35<Infiltrator>When printing PDFs over the network, all I get is an empty file in /var/spool/samba and no print job in cups. I tried the fix in https://bugs.launchpad.net/chromium-browser/+bug/838856/, but that didn't help.
00:35<Latino>uh oh
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00:36<cassio>Infrator , thank you
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01:00<josefig> /join #awk
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01:00<josefig>sorry :x
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01:02<Famin3>hello everyone
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01:03<Famin3>why is noone talking
01:03<Famin3>its weird
01:03<Infiltrator>!ask
01:03<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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01:05<mmgc84>hola a todos
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01:08<mmgc84>do you think this > http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/adapteva/parallella-a-supercomputer-for-everyone can make it to $3M???
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01:10<mmgc84>tiago: what do you think about it?
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02:07<beatrice>ciao
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02:08<beatrice>!ciao
02:08<dpkg>it has been said that ciao is both hello and goodbye (casual), or a slow and old but widely known Prolog interpreter.
02:10<mmgc84>jelou!!!!
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02:18<beatrice>!list
02:18<dpkg>beatrice: È possibile di scaricare un sacco di software libero puntando il tuo browser a http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-6.0.6-amd64-i386-netinst.iso !
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02:28<darkstar>Hola
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04:05<Sicelo>just a silly question (probably), but.. i assume the packages are built using the sources installable via apt-get source. however, i noticed that the dahdi package doesn't have the wcfxo driver, which is ight there in the sources. what causes the discrepancy, so to speak?
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04:05<Sicelo>s/ight/right/
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04:27<JetpackJohn>Greetings. Can anybody tell me what happened to the 'gsettings' utility? I was using it in a script to set the GNOME 3 wallpaper, bur it is no longer present. Is there some sort of transition underway? Or perhaps an alternative tool I can use?
04:28<Sicelo>JetpackJohn: does squeeze have Gnome 3?
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04:30<JetpackJohn>Sicelo: I am not sure... perhaps not. Personally, I am using Sid. Is there a more appropriate channel for people using Sid?
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04:34<JetpackJohn>Sicelo: Ah, nevermind. I see that the debian-next channel is not just for Wheezy. I will try there.
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06:22<charles_>salut
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07:15<EmleyMoor>I've tried asking on #debian-next about my squeeze->wheezy troubles but no-one has answered...
07:16<EmleyMoor>If I use apt-get, it fails...
07:16<EmleyMoor>My dist-upgrade fails with "E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'python-pyatspi2'. Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2)" - what do I have to do?
07:17<EmleyMoor>If I make that false, it fails on reading package fields at 32% due to too many open files
07:17<EmleyMoor>If I try to do the upgrade using aptitude it keeps saying "No solution found within the allotted time. Try harder? [Y/n]"
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07:30<werner_>Hello, I believe I messed up my sound settings. The login screen does have sound, and when I log in, I can hear sound for something like half a second, then things go completely silent. I also have two sound icons in my top panel instead of one. Any ideas what i might be doing wrong?
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07:35<werner_>This started after trying to enable sound effects in the gnome audio config. Other things work fine.
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07:46<werner_>Is there a way to completely reset all sound settings to default?
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08:50<shod>Hello World!
08:51<shod>What new about Debian?
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09:09<heini>i would like to package libefl for the debian project
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09:10<heini>there are some ppl that already do some work on enlightenment but the packages are always really old
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09:14<ompaul>heini: #debian-mentors is the place you need to go
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09:18<mr_bin>222222222222
09:18<mr_bin>';'';
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09:18<mr_bin>'k;ll;' ;ll';'l;llp'
09:18<mr_bin>;'jlk;'
09:19<ompaul>mr_bin: what was that?
09:19<mr_bin>sorry
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09:55<beojan>I am running sid. Following distupgrade I get floating point exceptions when some applications such as grep and sid are started from a scripr in /etc/init.d
09:56<beojan>But not when run directly in the shell
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10:15<eoe>hi
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10:17<Maulkin>!ask
10:17<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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10:33<prime>hello every one.
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10:34<prime>does any one have idea about any company that uses public network for building cluster?
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10:52<prime> does any one have idea about any company that uses public network for building cluster?
10:53<Calinou>google does, ping -c 999999999 google.com
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10:54<prime>google? but how?
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10:55<prime>how can you say that by just ping google.com?
10:56<Calinou>no, but: what does your support question have to do with debian?
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11:00<prime>I felt like people here are very knowledgeable and more in number to get the answer fast.
11:00<prime>i am sorry if i did a mistake but i am just trying to get the answer as quick as possible.
11:02<prime>if you know any other best channel please recommend.
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11:42<ayaka>I know there is program which can make ssh http work on the same port, could you tell me name of it
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12:02<Maulkin>ayaka: There's a horrible hack that doesn't really work...
12:03<Maulkin>ayaka: Though it's not a program
12:03<Maulkin>What are you trying to achieve, and why?
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12:05<naiv_>maybe a hidden ssh server ?
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12:07<rene72>anyone can help on ssh / chroot?
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12:08<rene72>i gently need "advanced" support
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12:09<nomprover>Maulkin, perhaps ayaka is looking for package 'sslh'?
12:11<rene72>anyone alive?
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12:12<rene72>i pay...
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12:12<themill>rene72: just ask your question and you might get an aswre
12:12<themill>answer
12:13<rene72>ok thank you
12:13<rene72>i need a ssh connection to my server but I want to restrict the user to his home folder
12:14<rene72>the user should also have access to the postgres and svn
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12:14<rene72>i chrooted the user but i can't connect
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12:14<rene72>error message is : Broken Pipe
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12:18*SamB_MacG5 wonders why there is a libjavassciptcoregtk-1.0-0 package ...
12:18<TobiX>rene72: Well, you need to put everything the user needs to run into the chroot (shell, libc, etc.)
12:19<TobiX>SamB_MacG5: Why shouldn't there be? It's part of WebKit
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12:19<SamB_MacG5>TobiX: the puzzling part is why it's GTK-specific
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12:20<TobiX>SamB_MacG5: Because GUI toolkit and core are not properly separated
12:20<SamB_MacG5>I'm especially puzzled now that I've noticed the source package is called "webkit"
12:21<SamB_MacG5>oh, hmm, okay, I'm less puzzled now that I've spotted the glib dependency
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12:22<TobiX>SamB_MacG5: http://packages.qa.debian.org/w/webkit.html (That is WebKitGTK)
12:22<rene72>Tobix the user has everything
12:22<rene72>shell, etc
12:22*SamB_MacG5 is suspicious of this win32-loader program -- how can it load debian-installer with just win32 ;-)
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12:22<SamB_MacG5>TobiX: oh, does the Qt version build from Qt's copy of the source, then?
12:23<rene72>etc, dev, lib, bin, ...
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12:23<TobiX>SamB_MacG5: That is WebKitQT: http://packages.qa.debian.org/q/qtwebkit.html
12:24<SamB_MacG5>huh, so there's not just one big Qt source package?
12:24<rene72>but my sshd is in the main root... should another sshd run under the chroot dir?
12:24<rene72>is there another simple way to do it?
12:25<ayaka>nomprover thank you
12:25<rene72>by the way... i used debootstrap to create the chroot structure
12:26<ayaka>Maulkin actually, I don't the festure of sslh, becuase I want to many clients work on the same port as firewall limitting
12:26<nomprover>You're welcome :)
12:26<TobiX>SamB_MacG5: Qt split of QtWebKit into a separate project. They still release it with Qt, but is is separate in Debian (see also http://packages.qa.debian.org/q/qt4-x11.html)
12:27<SamB_MacG5>that's different ... I've built Qt for my Mac, and ran into some issues due to the build conditionalized something on whether it was targetting i386, rather than on whether there was a 32-bit target, or just doing it unconditionally ...
12:27<SamB_MacG5>... so I know for a fact that the Qt 4 source includes WebKit
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12:27<themill>ayaka: I suspect your government may already have thought about things like sslh and will have "fixed" those "problems".
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12:28<ayaka>Maulkin thank you all the same
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12:29<rene72>Tobix: ?
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12:29<TobiX>SamB_MacG5: Yes, the default Qt4 package contains WebKit
12:30<SamB_MacG5>okay, why did someone name an HTTP library libsoup -- were they *trying* to make it sound like an HTML library?
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12:31<SamB_MacG5>oh, no, it's because of SOAP
12:31<ayaka>themill no, it in my university, I have a server, but firefox limited only port 80 can be port
12:31<SamB_MacG5>ayaka: what makes you think that's got anything to do with firefox?
12:31<ayaka>I am client but I can't a open new port to visit outside
12:32<SamB_MacG5>also I couldn't really parse that
12:32<TobiX>rene72: No idea. Can you paste the error output somewhere (preferably with ssh -v). And how did you setup the chroot in sshd?
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12:33<ayaka>themill sorry, s/firefox/firewall
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12:37<TobiX>ayaka: Only port 80, not 443? So no SSL?
12:37<SamB_MacG5>ayaka: ah, that makes much more sense now :-)
12:39<ayaka>SamB_MacG5: nothing, becuase the first thing I want to force firefox listening not on random pot but 80 port
12:39<SamB_MacG5>what?
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12:40<ayaka>TobiX yes, you can ask firewall admin to open it, but you can't any port passing firewall
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12:41<rene72>Tobix: where do you suggest to copy paste the output?
12:41<TobiX>dpkg: tell rene72 about pastebin
12:42<ayaka>SamB_MacG5 it is hard to say, I want 2 things, foceing a client program listening on define port not a random port . 2 multi clients using the same port
12:43<TobiX>SamB_MacG5: The qt4-x11 package builds with -no-webkit...
12:43<SamB_MacG5>TobiX: ah
12:45<ayaka>First thing is that foceing a client program listening on define port not a random port . Second thing is that multi clients using the same port
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12:46<TobiX>SamB_MacG5: qt4-x11 even diables multimedia stuff, since it uses standalone Phonon (Whis
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12:46<TobiX>(Which is also standalone, but shipped with Qt)
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12:54<TobiX>SamB_MacG5: Because the linux kernel dropped the IDE subsystem in favor of libata?
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13:06*SamB_MacG5 discovers that he can page through html/libata/ in emacs-w3m using nothing but the space bar, despite it's being split into multiple HTML pages
13:06<SamB_MacG5>or not
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13:07<SamB_MacG5>must have been a fluke that it worked for the first couple chapters ...
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13:07<SamB_MacG5>oh, wait, these pages are titled confusingly
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13:08<SamB_MacG5>f4ftx: I already have
13:08<SamB_MacG5>and so have you
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13:09<f4ftx>sorry
13:09<SamB_MacG5>;-)
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13:17<ayaka>SamB_MacG5 , TobiX thank you all the same
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13:43<xxx>ola
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13:47<Alogeno>hello,i was playing with fstab and now when i reboot i get a ReadOnly filesystem....there is a way to disable errors=remount-ro ?
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13:48<SamB_MacG5>Alogeno: wouldn't it make more sense to fix the errors ?
13:48<Alogeno>maybe can i append a string to grub/boot ?
13:48<SamB_MacG5>fs-related errors are NOT GOOD
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13:48<Alogeno>i think the error is caused by some wrong option i added
13:48<Alogeno>i'm trying to optimize a new ssd
13:48<SamB_MacG5>well, why not look at the boot messages and figure out which one, and remove it?
13:49<Alogeno>strange thing dmesg doesn't help me so much
13:49<SamB_MacG5>watch it boot, maybe?
13:49<Alogeno>i see "failed" when it boot at the beginning but it's too fast
13:49<SamB_MacG5>oh
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13:50*SamB_MacG5 wonders if there's kernel option to slow down message printing
13:50<Alogeno>some years ago i was able to stop output with a combination
13:50<anderson>hello
13:50<Alogeno>keyboard combo
13:50<Alogeno>anderson, hi
13:50<SamB_MacG5>did it involve the magic sysrq?
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13:51<anderson>I m new people here for work in project Debian
13:51<Alogeno>i don't remember very well...many years passed
13:51<Alogeno>something like ctrl+s
13:52<Alogeno>i give it a try in the case
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13:53<SamB_MacG5>oh, yeah, ^S does often do that ...
13:54<anderson>the channel here is for what?
13:54<Alogeno>uh! so is capital S? not s?
13:54<SamB_MacG5>you might also try the "boot_delay" kernel command line option
13:54<SamB_MacG5>Alogeno: it doesn't make a difference
13:54<Alogeno>SamB_MacG5, thank you!
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13:56<SamB_MacG5>Alogeno: also see Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt for the kernel command line stuff
13:56<Alogeno>i'm going to test&fix....hopefully ;)
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14:04<shod>hello
14:04<chriszeroum>hi
14:05<chriszeroum>i am having tons of troubles to make ath9k work in squeeze :|
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14:05<chriszeroum>i looked all tuts, got the adequated version to my kernel, and even so it does not connect at all
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14:06<chriszeroum>even netinstall does not load it
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14:06<Alogeno>SamB_MacG5, i was able to stop output with ctrl+s (and start again with ^q) and i can see what is the problem
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14:07<Alogeno>now the real problem is how can i modify fstab if i'm RO ?
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14:07<SamB_MacG5>Alogeno: you could remount it manually with good options?
14:07<SamB_MacG5>then edit?
14:08<Alogeno>never tought, i try
14:09<SamB_MacG5>see mount(8)
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14:10<chriszeroum>Anyone here knows how to setup a pc to pc connection 
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14:10<SamB_MacG5>chriszeroum: what kind?
14:10<chriszeroum>i need to connect my debian netbook (with no wifi for now, due to ath9k problems) to my windows computer that has wifi
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14:10<chriszeroum>i can use a cable (lan to lan) here to connect both
14:11<chriszeroum>windows is already set to share wifi thru lan
14:11<SamB_MacG5>what is the goal here?
14:11<chriszeroum>debian actually could resolve dns requests with that, but no ping at all
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14:12<chriszeroum>my netbook is ath9k wifi, and the installer has issues with ath9k, so i need to be able to connect to download backports
14:12<SamB_MacG5>you want the debian system to make use of "internet connection sharing" that you've set up on the Windows system?
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14:12<chriszeroum>yep
14:13<chriszeroum>it already got dns working, could resolve ns with no problems, but when connecting, pinging and or trying to apt-get, it does not access
14:14<chriszeroum>i am even trying to reinstall the netinst to check if network gets better here
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14:16<SamB_MacG5>chriszeroum: what does "ip route" say?
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14:16<chriszeroum>actually i don´t know how to set the router part
14:17<chriszeroum>its WEIRD that i actually could connect the network yesterday, and i did not make any changes to windows network stuff
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14:18<SamB_MacG5>I mean run "ip route" on the Debian box
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14:18<chriszeroum>now i am at the installer meny
14:18<chriszeroum>menu, gonna check what happens now to see if still gets trouble
14:18<SamB_MacG5>is there an option to open a shell
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14:18<SamB_MacG5>oh, okay, fine
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14:19<chriszeroum>gonna check there :)
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14:19<Alogeno>SamB_MacG5, again me :P mount doesn't seems to work
14:20<Alogeno>or maybe i'm not able to, it says / busy (obviously)
14:20<chriszeroum>hey, got the shell:
14:20<Alogeno>tried also --bind option but no luck
14:20<chriszeroum>192.168.137.9/24 dev eth0 src 192.168.137.57
14:20<Alogeno>recovery at grub no go, append rw at boot no go too
14:21<chriszeroum>default via 192.168.137.1 dev eth0
14:21<Alogeno>disk is encrypted so i don't know if live could be usefully
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14:22<SamB_MacG5>Alogeno: try "mount -o remount,rw /"
14:22<Alogeno>not mounted or bad option
14:22<Alogeno>...
14:23<SamB_MacG5>maybe "mount -o remount,rw /dev/<whatever> /" ?
14:23<Alogeno>let's see
14:24<chriszeroum>SamB, is there anything wrong here 
14:24<chriszeroum>my windows connects to a router with 192.168.10.1 gateway
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14:24<Alogeno>SamB_MacG5, seems to work! at least i can edit fstab finally
14:24<Alogeno>going to reboot
14:25<chriszeroum>and my windows LAN has no gateway present, since its getting shared connection from wifi
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14:25<SamB_MacG5>oh, yeah, I misread the manpage before -- now I see that it says it merges in the options from fstab if you don't give both dev and mountpoint
14:25<chriszeroum>and i cant access LAN on the router, since the router is on my mother bedroom and she is sleeping now, and no way to get a extend cable thru the house ehehe
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14:26<SamB_MacG5>chriszeroum: what's 192.168.137.1 ?
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14:28<chriszeroum>hi
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14:28<chriszeroum>is there a way to use ip to resolve a ns
14:28<chriszeroum>since there is no nslookup here
14:28<Alogeno>SamB_MacG5, many thanks! i've my system back :)
14:29<Alogeno>it was a stupid parameter/option in fstab
14:29<chriszeroum>it reads default via 192.168.137.1
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14:30<chriszeroum>its the ip address of the windows lan notebook
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14:30<Airwave>Would this command work fine for backing up a drive before doing some partition changes? "pv -B 4K /dev/sda | gzip > /mnt/windows/sda.gz"
14:30<chriszeroum>windows ipconfig
14:30<chriszeroum>IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.137.1
14:30<chriszeroum>Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
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14:31<Airwave>"/mnt/windows" is a SMB share mounted with mount.cifs, by the way.
14:31<Airwave>an*
14:32<SamB_MacG5>what's pv ?
14:33<Airwave>Gives a a "progress bar" of the throughput of a pipe.
14:33<Airwave>In this case, I'm just using it instead of dd to get a progress bar.
14:33<SamB_MacG5>ah
14:33<Airwave>"pv -B 4K /dev/sda" would be the same as "dd bs=4K if=/dev/sda".
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14:34<chriszeroum>hi, do you know how to check if the connection is good at the setup shell 
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14:35<melmothX_>ping -c 1 google.com or something like that?
14:36<SamB_MacG5>huh, -c 1 huh?
14:36<chriszeroum>there is no ping in the netinst
14:36*SamB_MacG5 usualyl just does "ping google.com" and than ^C when done
14:36<SamB_MacG5>chriszeroum: hmm
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14:36<SamB_MacG5>chriszeroum: apt-get update ?
14:37<chriszeroum>nope
14:37<Airwave>Does it have netcat (nc)?
14:37<chriszeroum>netinstall is a 175 isohehehe
14:37<Airwave>wget? cURL? telnet?
14:37<SamB_MacG5>chriszeroum: ls /usr/bin ?
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14:37<SamB_MacG5>that won't test, but it would tell you something of what's installed
14:38<chriszeroum>gonna check those commands
14:38<SamB_MacG5>cURL's command is curl, btw
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14:39<chriszeroum>w8
14:40<SamB_MacG5>Airwave: anyway, if that completes without error, then it should indeed have made a full backup ...
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14:40<Alogeno>chrisreich, nslookup www.google.com?
14:40<SamB_MacG5>Airwave: ... hopefully you don't have anything on /sda mounted ?
14:40<SamB_MacG5>er. /dev/sda
14:40<Airwave>SamB_MacG5: I'm testing it out on a VM before I go shutting down my server for a few hours.
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14:41<Airwave>No, nothing on the HDD is mounted.
14:41<SamB_MacG5>Airwave: I mean, don't try to backup anything mounted read/write that way
14:41<Airwave>Don't worry, I won't.
14:41<SamB_MacG5>good ;-)
14:41<Airwave>I'll be booting from a live CD.
14:41<chriszeroum>nslookup does not exist at the netinst
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14:42<chriszeroum>wget only says bad address
14:42<SamB_MacG5>chriszeroum: I guess the easiest thing would be to try to install some stuff?
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14:43<SamB_MacG5>chriszeroum: hmm, bad address ?
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14:43<SamB_MacG5>I guess it's not working :-(
14:44<chriszeroum>yep
14:44<Alogeno>chrisreich, arp www.debian.org
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14:44<chriszeroum>it looks like its not connection at all
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14:44<chriszeroum>there is no arp, this is the netinst cd, its pretty much the raw system
14:44<Airwave>Well this certainly is odd. Maybe backup up directly to a CIFS share isn't such a good idea.
14:45<Airwave>On the Windows computer with the share in question, sda.gz shows as 0KB.
14:45<SamB_MacG5>Airwave: did it complete yet?
14:45<Alogeno>chrisreich, forgot my noob answer if so :P
14:45<Airwave>On the live CD that I'm backup up from, sda.gz shows as 470M and growing.
14:45<chriszeroum>np ehehe
14:45<Airwave>backing up*
14:46<chriszeroum>gonna try reburning the 1st dvd, since my drive is not good for dvds anymore
14:46<SamB_MacG5>Airwave: how much RAM does it have?
14:46<Airwave>SamB_MacG5: No. maybe I should wait until I start panicking.
14:46<Airwave>It's a VM that's allocated 1GB of RAM.
14:46<Airwave>It only shows 9% RAM usage though.
14:47<SamB_MacG5>how'd you check the size on the Windows system?
14:47<Airwave>Windows Explorer and dir.
14:47<Alogeno>bye to everyone!
14:47<SamB_MacG5>chriszeroum: you need a DVD for that?
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14:48<Airwave>A DVD for what?
14:48<chriszeroum>i have the disk, but my external dvd is not good
14:48<chriszeroum>to reinstall, since the netinst cd does not have a lot of commands
14:48<Airwave>SamB_MacG5: Oh, sorry. Didn't see that it was addressed to chriszeroum.
14:48<SamB_MacG5>hmm
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14:50<SamB_MacG5>chriszeroum: when I installed Debian, we used CDs and we LIKED having 14 of them!
14:50<Airwave>SamB_MacG5: 14 CDs? Did you install every single package that Debian has to offer?
14:50<chriszeroum>the problem: a lot of blank dvds, and only 2 blank cds ;p
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14:50<SamB_MacG5>Airwave: 7 source, 7 binaries
14:51<chriszeroum>i dont remember the last time i used a cd installer ehehe
14:51<SamB_MacG5>and probably just the first or second one would have been enough for a net install
14:51<Airwave>Still, I thought the first one or two CDs contained all the packages needed for a default install.
14:52<orion>hi
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14:52<Airwave>There we go. Now the size matches on the Windows computer as well.
14:52<chriszeroum>gonna download the first cds and giver another try to usb installer, to check if stuff actually goes fine :)
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14:54<chriszeroum>gonna check there and be back later to check here
14:55<chriszeroum>cya ! and tks SamB !
14:55<Airwave>chriszeroum: Bye!
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14:56<chriszeroum>bye Airwave ! gonna be here later to check if thing go right or not ehehe, tks !
14:56<chriszeroum>cya
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14:56<SamB_MacG5>did I mention that I got my CDs by mail order?
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14:57<cwood>Good afternoon. I'm migrating my wife from OSX to Wheezy. Which window manager or desktop environment would you pick for the most seamless user transition?
14:57<Airwave>SamB_MacG5: Bought them from Debian?
14:58<SamB_MacG5>Airwave: I don't actually remember where
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14:59<Airwave>cwood: Xfce, maybe.
14:59<Airwave>You can use a panel to imitate the Dock.
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15:00<cwood>I'll give that a go, thank you.
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15:02<Airwave>cwood: No problem. I would suggest giving all of the four "big ones" (GNOME, KDE, Xfce, and LXDE) a go.
15:02<Airwave>You can try them out in a VM, to make it less of a hassle.
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16:01<birch>My acer netbook install of Squeeze 6.06 doesn't recognize my sound card. cat /proc/asound/cards doesn't work because /proc/asound/ doesn't even exist. Can anyone recommend a good place to find info on installing sound cards? Thanks
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16:11<Airwave>Hmm. Usually you put matching DIMMs every other slot, right? Well on this motherboard, two and two slots of the same colors are right next to each other. Should I put matching DIMMs next to each other then?
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16:12<corey>sup guy
16:12<corey>guys*
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16:13<blubberdiblub>Airwave, on color coded slots, you usually fill the slots with the same color first
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16:14<Airwave>blubberdiblub: So the matching ones go into the same color, yes?
16:14<blubberdiblub>Airwave, yes
16:14<Airwave>Thought so. Thanks!
16:15<corey>Does anyone know if ubuntu has any problem with wifi signal strenght?
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16:37<rene>how to set up ssh under chroot? (not sftp)
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16:42<daemonkeeper>rene: What do you mean: running a chrooted SSH or chrooting a user logging in to SSH?
16:43<rene>hello daemonkeeper
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16:43<rene>chrooting a user logging in to ssh
16:44<rene>i want to give a user the access but restrict him to his home
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16:44<rene>he should be able to connect with ssh (not sftp)
16:44<rene>and connect to postgres on my server
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16:44<rene>i have created with debootstrap a chroot
16:44<daemonkeeper>Just write a log-in wrapper doing a chroot() in a login shell before executing the shell. alternatively, use programs such as lshell.
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16:46<rene>i don't need debootstrap env?
16:46<daemonkeeper>If you want a real chroot, you do.
16:46<AlexLikeRock>how add botton "turn off " on gnome3 shell ?
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16:47<birch>Is there a command to install whatever is the most recent kernel without knowing/specifying the exact version?
16:47<rene>actually i don't know if i need a real chroot
16:47<daemonkeeper>Install the pseudo-package.
16:47<rene>i simply want him to connect but jail hium in his root
16:48<Airwave>God damn it. These computer is just not willing to cooperate today.
16:48<Airwave>This*
16:48<rene>plus let him connect to postgresDB and SVR repository
16:48<daemonkeeper>rene: Look at lshell.
16:48<rene>ok i will have a look
16:48<Airwave>It's refusing to boot from CD, it refuses to boot using PXE.
16:49<daemonkeeper>birch: i.e. http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/linux-image-2.6-amd64 or whatever your arch is. It will always install you the latest available version as a dependency.
16:49<Airwave>Shit, what can I do then?
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16:50<birch>daemonkeeper, according to this page http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/Acer/AO756 I need kernel v3.2.17- for drivers. I want to install this from squeeze backports.
16:51<daemonkeeper>Well, then do so. No meta package for that, however.
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16:56<birch>daemonkeeper, I don't understand which command to use. apt-get -t squeeze-backports install linux-image-3.2-amd64 ?
16:56<daemonkeeper>backports.debian.org has precise instructions.
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16:58<red>ciao a tt
16:58<red>!list
16:58<dpkg>red: È possibile di scaricare un sacco di software libero puntando il tuo browser a http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-6.0.6-amd64-i386-netinst.iso !
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17:12<corey>Does anyone know if ubuntu has any problem with wifi signal strenght?
17:13<rene>how to start program from lshell?
17:14<devil_>corey: how would we know? ask in ubuntu
17:14<devil_>!ubuntuirc
17:14<dpkg>This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server chat.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://chat.freenode.net/ubuntu
17:14<devil_>rene: lshell?
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17:18<paris>Hi folks, I am using Zorin so which program is by defout to download youtube videos?
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17:21<calzifer>i like this #debian more than on freenode, on freenode its like "what noob question are you asking? if your not able to use debian, use ubuntu and go away!"
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17:21<xubuntu>what is this xchat
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17:21<birch>daemonkeeper, it worked, thanks
17:22<calzifer>xubuntu: xchat is an irc client
17:22<xubuntu>can someone tells me_
17:22<calzifer>xubuntu: how did you join this channel? with your browser?
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17:22<xubuntu>irc is abbreviation
17:23<shod>xubuntu: yes
17:23<xubuntu>what is its extension
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17:23<Latino>xubuntu, IRC: internet relay chat
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17:24<Latino>xubuntu, it seems you're using a live mode of Ubuntu. Why it send you to #debian instead of #ubuntu is beyond me
17:24<calzifer>maybe they forgot to patch it
17:24<Latino>Usually distros put a shortcut to an IRC channel for support
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17:25<xubuntu>i dont know how to use it
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17:25<shod>xubuntu: How use what?
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17:26<xubuntu>sorry for my faults
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17:26<devil_>Latino: the xchat they ship points to #debian :)
17:26<Latino>It can be a troll, but I'm bored anyways
17:26<Latino>hi devil, it seems like it
17:26<xubuntu>shod, how to use xchat
17:26<devil_>xubuntu: you are using it
17:27<Latino>ah, Xfce
17:27<devil_>and you should really take your qestions to ubuntu
17:27<shod>xubuntu: very simple
17:27<devil_>!ubuntuirc
17:27<dpkg>This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server chat.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://chat.freenode.net/ubuntu
17:27<xubuntu>yeah i just click end say yes buttons
17:27<shod>xubuntu: are you using ubuntu?
17:28<xubuntu>shod, yes i use xubuntu
17:28<shod>Great!
17:28<Latino>c:
17:29<xubuntu>are there channels in here
17:29<xubuntu>i guess i m in debian server
17:29<shod>xubuntu: use this channel #ubuntu
17:29<rene>hallo devil_
17:30<rene>yes lshell
17:30<devil_>rene: never heard of
17:30<xubuntu>shod, how can i change my channel
17:30<xubuntu>server=join channel
17:30<rene>stand for limited shell
17:30<rene>Official Debian Package
17:30<devil_>xubuntu: i told you
17:31<Latino> /server irc.freenode.net /j #ubuntu
17:31<Latino>type those commands
17:32<xubuntu>there is not only ubuntu
17:32<shod>xubuntu: what client are you using? Console or graphic?
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17:32<xubuntu>i dont know
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17:33<xubuntu>thanks for everything see you shod
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17:37<birch>is there a proprietary intel video driver like with ati and nvidia?
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17:38<devil_>there is only the intel driver
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17:40<birch>devil_, how do i check which driver i have?
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17:41<devil_>birch: dpkg -l | grep "video-intel"
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17:42<birch>ii xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.13.0-7 X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver
17:42<birch>hmm..the graphics is terrible atm
17:42<birch>in the least there is a refresh rate problem
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17:52<Ahmed>hi every one
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18:00<mcoffin>Hey I accidentally took my usb drive out with it still mounted. not writing or anything
18:00<mcoffin>but mounted.
18:00<mcoffin>How can I unmount the mountpoint?
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18:05<Latino>mcoffin, if it is mounted in /media, you usually can just double click the taskbar where the external storage manager is and unmount
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18:05<Latino>pretty much like you do in Windows
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18:06<mcoffin>Latino: I don't have gnome, I'm in CLI
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18:06<Latino>Well, not having gnome is a good thing :P
18:07<Latino>do you know the mount point?
18:07<Latino>umount mountpoint
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18:30<andromedas>how can a nonprogrammer IT person help out Debian? I've been reading recently that there may be a loss of momentum for the project, and I would love to give back
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18:31<Latino>are you bi/multi-lingual?
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18:32<andromedas>yes
18:33<Latino>you can help with translations
18:33<Latino>!apropos doc
18:33*Latino shurgs
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18:35<andromedas>ah ok
18:35<andromedas>thanks
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18:42<birch>does anyone have an idea of the expected wheezy release date?
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18:45<devil_>when 419 RC-bugd get fixed
18:45-!-andres is now known as zz_andres
18:45<devil_>bugs even
18:46<chealer>!tell birch about wwwr
18:46<Latino>I learned a while ago that it's better to wait till a product is done, and not receive a half baked product
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18:47<birch>I was just hoping for a ballpark estimate on the time, but yeah I saw the critical bug count from the last news letter
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18:50<devil_>birch: my uneducated guess is Feb as earliest date
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18:51<birch>devil_, ok, sounds good
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20:03<Jarl>Hi :) Ho from poland and have time to help :) ?
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20:04<Jarl>me debian netstinal dont work fstab is broken ;/ dont search me usb (i instal from live usb )
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20:06<gabriel>hi everybody, i'm new in ubuntu, trying to install a driver to my genius tablet
20:06<chealer>!polish
20:06<dpkg>somebody said polish was spoken in #debian.pl on irc.freenode.net (not here). Or something used to make things shiny, or a really good sausage. polska -> #debian.pl
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20:12<Ichabod>gabriel: this is the debian channel, not the ubuntu channel
20:12<Ichabod>!ubuntu
20:12<dpkg>Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>.
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20:16<gabriel>thanks a lot!
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20:21<indio>Hi. Is it possible to install Debian along with a preexisting Windows and Ubuntu installation?
20:22<perlwizard>yes
20:22<perlwizard>as long as you have some free space
20:22<indio>Yes I do.
20:23<indio>Will it handle the bootmanager fine? I have a stock Ubuntu installation with grub2.
20:23<gryllida>yes
20:23<perlwizard>grub bootmanager would handle a new os just fine
20:23<perlwizard>is there a real reason to triple-boot though
20:24<indio>I want to switch to Debian.
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20:24<perlwizard>okay
20:24<indio>But I guess I need some time to triple boot, though.
20:24*Latino gives perlwizard a thumb up
20:25<perlwizard>indio at some point, debian installer would ask you about what to do with boot manager
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20:25<perlwizard>it should do nothing
20:25<chealer>indio: Debian generally replaces (in a sense) the bootloader when it's installed (with GRUB, in general)
20:25<perlwizard>and after you boot in ubuntu, you'll need to issue a reconfiguring command so that ubuntu updates a grub and debian is seen in boot menu
20:25<indio>Hmmm... I wonder what would it be the outcome...
20:26<perlwizard>or, you could replace the grub from ubuntu with grub from debian
20:26<perlwizard>both solutions should work
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20:26<indio>Hmmm... I get it.
20:27<indio>I might ask not to touch the boot manager then...
20:27<perlwizard>if you're going to switch to debian in the long term, going with it's grub might be a slightly better idea
20:27<indio>true.
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20:28<indio>What's Debian boot manager?
20:28<indio>grub?
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20:29<chealer>indio: GRUB is Debian's most common bootloader, yes
20:29<indio>Should I install stable or testing?
20:29<perlwizard>testing or sid for desktop
20:29<perlwizard>stable for server
20:30<indio>mkay, did not know about sid.
20:31<perlwizard>sid is "still in development" aka unstable
20:31<perlwizard>essentially a permanent rolling release type of thing
20:32<indio>Can I switch from testing to sid later?
20:32<indio>Without a clean install?
20:32<Ichabod>sid is a bad idea
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20:32<perlwizard>yes, but you should do that only if you're confident enough
20:32<indio>Okay. Good to know.
20:32<Ichabod>never run sid as your main os
20:32<perlwizard>ie can handle occasional unbootable system
20:32<Ichabod>never
20:32<indio>Testing it is, then.
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20:33<kingsley>Which command lists the IP addresses of hosts on a private net?
20:34<chealer>indio: it depends on your needs and your experience with Debian and GNU/Linux.
20:35<Ichabod>kingsley: there is no such command
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20:36<perlwizard>kingsley theoretically you could pingscan a range of ip addresses with nmap
20:36<indio>*downloading livecd installer*
20:36<perlwizard>that way you'll see responses from hosts that are configured to respond to icmp
20:37<perlwizard>probably not all though
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20:40<indio>Wait. Is it possible to install Debian from a booted Ubuntu?
20:41<indio>Hmmm... nevermind. I think I first want to test drive a livecd running debian
20:41<perlwizard>indio http://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap
20:42<indio>thanks
20:43<kingsley>Ichabod & perlwizard: FYI: nmap -sn <IP range> worked.
20:43<perlwizard>kingsley keep in mind that a lot of things nowadays do not respond to ping by default
20:43<Ichabod>kingsley: nmap is not a default debian utility
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20:44<dckx>hi. I'm trying to setup mutt with automatic gpg decryption. somehow, this doesn't work. I'm using mutt-patched, can anybody help me?
20:45<indio>I can only see 'Official live install images for the "stable" release' are there any for "testing"?
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20:45<indio>www.debian.org/CD/live/
20:46<perlwizard>indio http://live.debian.net/cdimage/release/current-next/
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20:47<indio>Thanks.
20:50<indio>What's the webboot version about?
20:51<indio>I guess iso-hybrid is the one I want...
20:51<indio>I want a livecd installer.
20:51<dckx>indio: yes
20:51<dckx>maybe you want netinstall
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20:52<indio>dunno
20:53<dckx>netinstall: load stuff while installing. iso-hybrid: load and burn everything to CDs and install.
20:53<perlwizard>indio if your CPU is 64bit, I recommend http://live.debian.net/cdimage/release/current-next/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-wheezy-live-a2-amd64-xfce-desktop.iso
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20:54<dckx>correct me if I'm wrong
20:55<perlwizard>that thing is a live cd, on which there is an installer as well.
20:55<perlwizard>which can perform as netinst
20:55<perlwizard>2 in 1
20:55<dckx>ah, ok
20:55<indio>does 32 bit program run slower on amd64?
20:55<perlwizard>they run.
20:56<perlwizard>slower of faster... depends on program.
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20:56<indio>I indeed have an amd64...
20:56*indio tempted to go for amd64
20:56<perlwizard>then you should have 64bit OS, unless there is a serious reason not to
20:57<perlwizard>like for example incompatible 32-bit only blob driver
20:57<perlwizard>or something similar
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20:58<indio>what's the difference between the tagged "standard" cdimage and the "gnome-desktop" one.
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20:58<perlwizard>debian has a default desktop environment
20:58<indio>The others are "kde", "xfce" etc
20:59<perlwizard>for stable it is gnome
20:59<perlwizard>for wheezy it is xfce
20:59<indio>Oh, I thought it was Gnome.
20:59<perlwizard>not any more
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21:00<indio>Why not? Just curious.
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21:00<perlwizard>official reason is file size ( http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=tasksel/tasksel.git;a=commit;h=2a962cc65cdba010177f27e8824ba10d9a799a08 )
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21:01<perlwizard>real reason I think is that gnome project is losing it's relevance and momentum
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21:12<Killerspec>morning all
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21:14<Killerspec>I am trying to install cherokee but I am coming up against an install error any help ?
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21:14<Killerspec>says it may be obsoleted or available from other sauce
21:14<Killerspec>using wheezy
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21:17<dckx>hi. I'm trying to setup mutt with automatic gpg decryption. somehow, this doesn't work. I'm using mutt-patched, can anybody help me?
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21:21<abrotman>Killerspec: are you sure the package still exists?
21:22<siddy>help/
21:22<rudi_s>dckx: Should work by default. /etc/Muttrc.d/gpg.rc sets it up on debian. Maybe you need to add set pgp_auto_decode=yes for inline signatures.
21:22<siddy>I think I just installed every i386 package there is on an amd64 system.... any consequences of that? Do I need to re-install eventually?
21:22<Killerspec>the tutorial I am following is pretty much upto date as I am on the raspberry pi
21:23<rudi_s>siddy: If you use multiarch, no. But why do you do that? Just remove them.
21:23<abrotman>Killerspec: and it runs Debian, or something like Debian?
21:23<siddy>anyone ever use multiarch?
21:23<Killerspec>yes debian wheezy
21:23<rudi_s>siddy: Sure, but not in stable. Wheezy has (partial) multiarch.
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21:23<abrotman>Killerspec: and the package name is ?
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21:23<Killerspec>the one I am looking for ?
21:23<abrotman>rudi_s: squeeze doesn't have multiarch, wheezy has full multiarch (as much as Debian does)
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21:24<siddy>rudi_s, why? because I was frustrated? lol It was the only option that would fix the dependencies so I could install skype?
21:24<Killerspec>it is cherokee
21:24<rudi_s>abrotman: Well, multilib. And there are still some packages missing.
21:24<siddy>p.s. I don't know how to 'remove them'
21:24<abrotman>siddy: why do you thikn you need to remove them ?
21:25<siddy>abrotman, rudi said 'why do you do that?' just remove them'
21:25<rudi_s>siddy: Oh, ok. In that case, no problem. The i386 libs can coexist without any problems. Only one binary can be installed though, either i386 or amd64.
21:25<abrotman>!tell rudi_s about multiarch
21:25<siddy>abrotman, I can have all those?
21:25<abrotman>siddy: if you want to, sure
21:25<abrotman>siddy: just takes HDD space
21:25<dckx>rudi_s: ok, thank you. pgp_auto_decode=yes was missing.
21:25<siddy>abrotman, it was really confusing... I googled and I couldn't find anyone with the solution to install virtually every i386(based) package :)
21:25<rudi_s>dckx: np
21:26<abrotman>siddy: because you generally wouldn't want to .. but it may fit your case
21:26<siddy>abrotman, oh... :-/
21:26<siddy>I tried to install just the packages that were required... but, it didn't work
21:26<abrotman>not a big deal
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21:26<dckx>do you know if I can configure rules to match keys to mail address? Not everybody has his real email address in his keys.
21:27<rudi_s>dckx: Yes. crypt-hook email@example.org 0xkeyidhere
21:27<rudi_s>You can use that multiple times.
21:27<siddy>I should have asked for help here ;)
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21:28<siddy>abrotman, yeah, I didn't really want to :)
21:28<rudi_s>siddy: I meant "remove them" if you don't them. If they are required as dependency for something else you have to/can leave them install of course.
21:28<rudi_s>*don't need them
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21:29<siddy>rudi_s, well, I was under the assumption, I don't need them *all* :)
21:29<dckx>rudi_s: thanks again
21:29<siddy>I am pretty sure it installed more than what I needed
21:29<rudi_s>dckx: You're welcome.
21:29<abrotman>siddy: are you running out of HDD space?
21:29<siddy>http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/Implementation
21:30<rudi_s>siddy: I don't know what you mean by "all". Because you can't install "all" - the i386 binaries are conflicting with your amd64 binaries.
21:30<siddy>I thought these were the steps I needed but still wasn't enough
21:30<siddy>abrotman, what do I run? df?
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21:31<siddy>disk use 11%
21:32<siddy>actually, I'm doing another install on another partition soon... will be my main OS.... is Wheezy a good choice?
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21:33<siddy>I'd like to try the skype install again ;-)
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21:33<siddy>replacing a mepis install... I accidentally installed the alpha 11.9 so will replace with Debian Wheezy.... any advice?
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21:34<siddy>I thought maybe I'm too dumb for unstable ...lol
21:35<siddy>I usually find the 'right' sources for info but then one step is wrong or omitted and then I run into probs
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21:46<paris>Hi folks, how to download youtube videos on Linux Zorin 6 ?
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21:48<abrotman>wtf is Zorin ?
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21:49<abrotman>paris: you want #zorinos on irc.freenode.net, not #debian
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21:50<Latino>Hmm, will Debian has something like Ubuntu One?
21:50<Latino>s has have
21:50<abrotman>why?
21:52<Latino>idk, I guess dropbox has cooties
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21:52<abrotman>right .. because One is so much better
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21:57<Latino>I meant anything similar, not exactly One
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22:11<dakota>hello
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22:11<paris>abrotman! Please explain me in plain English what do you mean because I am newbe to linux.
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22:14<abrotman>paris: this channel supports Debian, not Zorin. ZorinOS support is #zorinos on irc.freenode.net
22:15<nadir1>Latino: you might want to check the freedombox project (work in progress). Else have a look at sparkelshare (didn't work well for me, but am lame)
22:16<Latino>Thanks
22:16<paris>abrotman! So but my English in not perfect. I have tried to use youtube-dl, but in vain.
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22:17<abrotman>paris: not our problem
22:17<Latino>it works fine for me
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22:20<paris>abrotman, big thanks for trying to help me!
22:20<abrotman>good luck!
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22:36<indio>Hi. Where's debian installer on the livecd?
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22:36<Latino>well, that sucks if it is hard to find the launcher
22:37<indio>I might have gotten the wrong livecd...
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22:39<indio>I might have to reboot into a different boot manager option.
22:40<indio>But well I first wanted to ask here so I don't have reboot unnecessarily.
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22:53<indio>Hi. Looks like this Debian livecd does not have the netinst option.
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22:54<simonlnu>is it supposed to?
22:55<indio>I dont know.
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22:55<simonlnu>probably a good idea to find out ;). i suspect it doesn't, but i could be wrong.
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22:57<indio>I am suspecting it does not have it. Otherwise it is hidden feature. Anyway, it helped to see it is running really smoothly.
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22:58<indio>Why are there 3 DVD-1 DVD-2 DVD-3 ISOs? Which ones are necessary for a standard install_
22:58<indio>?
22:58<sney>those discs contain everything in debian main
22:59<sney>you only need DVD1 (or CD1, or the netinstall) for a standard installation
22:59<sney>the rest of the packages are provided on disc for systems that will not have regular (or any) internet access
22:59<indio>Thanks.
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23:26<indio>Does debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso contain different desktop environments? Otherwise, which one?
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23:29<sney>indio, yes it has several
23:30<indio>Thanks. I don't know which one to choose. :-/
23:31<indio>I just booted Testing livecd with Gnome but I did not like it that much.
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23:31<indio>It's quite different from anything I have used so far.
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23:32<indio>I am used to the traditional taskbar, startmenu button, etc.
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23:37<indio>I'll go with Xfce.
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23:50<st3mc3ll>hai
23:51<Scriptonaut>Hey guys, I somehow broke something on my machine, when I try to update to the new kernel it says I have the unmet dependency gcc-4.4, and when I try to install gcc-4.4 it says I have about 6 unmet dependencies, cpp-4.4, binutils, libgcc1, libgomp1, and libc6, however I have all of these already.
23:51<Scriptonaut>Do you guys know why it would falsely assume that I didn't have these dependencies installed
23:51<Scriptonaut>?
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