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#debian IRC Logs for 2012-11-20

---Logopened Tue Nov 20 00:00:34 2012
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00:03<poetic_algebra>b43 should support it, yeah
00:03<LtL>note PCI devices, his is USB
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00:04<poetic_algebra>hmm
00:04<raoul>its a pci
00:04<raoul>thats why i had to remove it..
00:05<poetic_algebra>well, once again http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43 explains getting it up and running once you have the firmware for bcm4318
00:06<LtL>raoul: my mistake, could have sworn i saw USB earlier
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00:07<poetic_algebra>night night all
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00:08<raoul>you were inquiring about the coonection i was using..thats why the usb thing came in..
00:08<LtL>raoul: i see
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00:09<LtL>raoul: it shouldn't be a problem then
00:09<raoul>just trying the chat is someone had similar encounters..thanks anyway
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00:10<LtL>raoul: wish you success
00:11<raoul>i'll let you know..
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00:24<super>so if i just installed next to ubuntu, i rebooted grub only sees debian, no ubuntu partition
00:24<super>I am booted into grub, but i have no internet, because drivers
00:24<super>how can i get grub to find my other partition
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00:28<raoul>@super: yes, if you had the grub boot loader on a cd-rom drive..
00:30<LtL>super: so boot debian and run os-prober
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00:36<super>ok
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00:40<super>no volume groups found
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00:40<LtL>super: fdisk -l ..are you sure it's there
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00:46<super>ehh, nope, it got formatted, thats cool, i backed it up!
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00:56<Joe>hello every , i want to set local package priority higher than the remote ones, how could i done it in the preferences.d files . thank you.
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00:59<melanie>ok
01:00<melanie>hello?
01:00<AquaX>hi there
01:00<melanie>wats up?
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03:40<rakul>hi all! i've got a stupid question :-) i run two X servers. the first one is my workspace and it's allways on. the second one is usually in the background. i need to take a screenshot of the second X. wher i do DISPLAY=:1 scrot it's all black. can i somehow tell X server to be "allways active"?
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03:41<jm_>you mean disable blanking?
03:41<rakul>and yea, i have one monitor and i swith between X's using ctrl-alt-f7-8
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03:41<rakul>well, yes, like blanking
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03:42<jm_>you can configure it with xset command or in config file
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03:43<rakul>oh, thanx. i'll try it now.
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03:44<rakul>i accidently turned off the wrong X :)
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03:51<rakul>xset didn't help me. (or maybe i did something wrong). i switched to second X (ctrl-alt-f8), in terminal run "xset s noblank"; switched back (ctrl-alt-f7); made shot (DISPLAY=:1 scrot)
03:51<rakul>and it;s all black :)
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03:54<jm_>hmm can't test it now
03:54<jm_>how do you start the second server - startx?
03:54<rakul>yep
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03:54<rakul>startx -- :1
03:54<jm_>yeah can't test with that now
03:55<rakul>i'v got enlightenment-17 wm. screensaver in e17 properties is disabled
03:55<rakul>well, thank you anyway)
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03:57<jm_>did you try any other tools? say xwd?
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04:01<rakul>no, i haven't try others. that's a good sugestion
04:01<rakul>xwd displays an error (even if i use it on the active X)
04:01<rakul>X Error of failed request: BadColor (invalid Colormap parameter)
04:01<rakul>now searching what does it mean :-)
04:02<jm_>is it running in different bit depth?
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04:03<rakul>im's sorry, i'm not very aware of X11 and stuff, i don't understand what you mean
04:04<rakul>i just opened a Lxterminal and run "xwd" there. have done nothing with bit depth or something
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04:04<rakul>o, no. i think i lied :-)
04:04<rakul>xwd works ok by itself, "xwd -root" displays an error.
04:05<jm_>even for active X server?
04:06<rakul>yes, even for an active. if i use xwininfo to get window id, and then xwd -id <id> it dumps
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04:06<jm_>-root works fine for me
04:06<rakul>well, i don;t need the whole screen dump, maybe i can use -id
04:07<rakul>i'll try other X server now
04:08<rakul>well, the same here
04:08<rakul>i run xwd -id 0xa00004 -display :1 | convert xwd:- /tmp/capture.png
04:09<rakul>where id is a window id on the non-active X server, and display is it's display
04:09<rakul>and /tmp/capture.png is a black square, shaped of a window
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04:12<doom_>hello
04:13<rakul>i asked on #xorg, maybe they wouldn;t kill me :-)
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04:14<jm_>hmm don't really know why it would do that , this sounds logical http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/44821/how-do-i-screencap-another-xorg-display
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04:17<rakul>well it this thread there is someone, who was able to do it with scrot. but in my case i started with scrot and it failed :-) maybe i should test xvfb. but that a fail, because i hawe to interact with the second X time at a time
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04:23<_Danilo_>OdyX: a new upstream version of usb-modeswitch ( http://packages.qa.debian.org/u/usb-modeswitch.html ) and usb-modeswitch-data ( http://packages.qa.debian.org/u/usb-modeswitch-data.html ) was released! When you can please update and upload in experimental. Thanks!
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04:23<OdyX>_Danilo_: does it bring significant improvements ?
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04:24<_Danilo_>OdyX: http://www.draisberghof.de/usb_modeswitch/bb/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1128 and http://www.draisberghof.de/usb_modeswitch/bb/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1129
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04:25<OdyX>_Danilo_: okay. Will take a look at it in the next days; thanks for the heads'up.
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04:26<_Danilo_>OdyX: you are welcome! Thanks you!
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04:30<SynrG>stderr: http://deb-multimedia.org/dists/squeeze-backports/main/binary-i386/package/libdvdcss2
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04:31<SynrG>if-and-when we see piero again, please also fwd him this URL
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04:33<kirky>hi
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04:34<kirky>anybody?
04:35<perlwizard>!ask
04:35<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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04:38<fantastic>Ubuntu 12.04 Fire wall block from enter remote mobile network
04:38<perlwizard>!ubuntu
04:38<dpkg>Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>.
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04:56<Guest6187>I'm having trouble with the debian installer in wheezy. When installing from a usb (dd written), shortly after setting the keyboard layout...the installer will fail at "detecting cd-rom".
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04:58<jm_>check if you get more info on tty3/tty4
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05:02<stderr>SynrG: Thanks. Personally I'll probably stay with my own .deb, but I'll try to remember to forward the URL.
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05:26<ratnick_>anyone know how how to use fex?
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05:28<babilen>ratnick_: Try "man 1 fex"
05:28<ratnick_>thanks
05:28<ratnick_>babilen: returns no entry
05:29<ratnick_>I'll look for docs
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05:29<babilen>ratnick_: Ah, it is "man 1 fec" :)
05:29<babilen>argh
05:29<babilen>"man 1 fac"
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05:30<ratnick_>it's in /usr/share
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05:31<babilen>ratnick_: But run "dpkg -L fex" and see for yourself. You should find /usr/share/man/man1/fac.1.gz and /usr/share/doc/fex/README.Debian of particular interest. Also read the htdocs
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05:31<ratnick_>will do
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05:47<ratnick_>babilen: got it. thanks and happy holidays.
05:47<babilen>holidays?
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05:47<ratnick_>winter solstice
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05:48<ratnick_>(I'm in the Northern Hemisphere.)
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07:02<luser>anyone home ?
07:03<perlwizard>!ask
07:03<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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07:04<luser>I need to install debian x64 off my 3.87gb usb and was wondering if the dvd iso will fit ?
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07:05<jm_>no doubt netinst and business images will fit :)
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07:06<lujy>Hello?
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07:07<jm_>as for dvd-iso, there is no single image and size for image 1 is 4.3G so ...
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07:07<lujy>Any gnome3 user?
07:07<luser>sorry, temperamental connection the last few days...
07:07<jm_>as for dvd-iso, there is no single image and size for image 1 is 4.3G so ...
07:08<lujy>Any ubuntu user?
07:08<lujy>what's wrong?
07:08<jm_>!tell lujy -about ubuntu
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07:08<lujy>I am sorry
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07:09<lujy>But debian can use gnome3 too
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07:09<lujy>I want to ask some questons about gnome3
07:09<jm_>sure, if you have a question about debian feel free to ask here
07:09<luser>the thing is, I read here: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=686471 that it should work but I wasn't sure so I figured this is the place to ask while I'm downloading it :D
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07:14<jm_>that's interesting bug report, I wouldn't recommend this approach to people because no doubt some files are missing and some are corrupt
07:15<luser>thought so too and that why I'm here... seems risky :) maybe I can checksum the last file in the image and compare it to the usb copy ?
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07:18<luser>bah... I'll just give it a go and find out for myself :D I'll be off now watching the progress bar... bye !
07:18<luser>and thanks !
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07:18<jm_>yeah verify md5sums (loop mount the ISO)
07:18<jm_>too late
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07:29<OdyX>_Danilo_: uploaded, thanks again.
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07:30<logan_bb>hola
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07:47<Guest6198>pirati caraibi
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08:35<purpose>irc://irc.abjects.net/ALBUMS
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08:53<alfix>buona sera a tutti!
08:53<roughnecks>!it
08:53<dpkg>Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help.
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08:54<alfix>ok thanks! ;)
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08:57<nocturnal>has anyone here solved the issue of the missing liblvm2clusterlock.so file in the clvm package? there are bug reports on this issue for both debian and ubuntu.
08:58<babilen>nocturnal: Please do not cross-post
08:59<nocturnal>it's two different networks. I was just hedging my bets.
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09:02<babilen>dpkg: tell nocturnal about cross-post
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09:02<nocturnal>fair enough
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09:20<_Danilo_>OdyX: thanks you! ;)
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10:08<cwebber>is there a way to boot without mounting /
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10:09<cwebber>kinda of like the rescue mode in CentOS
10:09<cwebber>just want to be dropped into initramfs before mounting /
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11:36<engla>cwebber: should be 'break' on the kernel line
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11:36<engla>alt break=<checkpoint>
11:36<cwebber>engla: thanks
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11:37<Selenator>Emm..
11:37<Selenator>Hi?
11:38<Selenator>bye
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11:50<jesus>شه8تي}هصىىشضحش}
11:50<jesus>ؤر
11:50<jesus>هصس
11:50<jesus>ثهص0
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12:09<lily>un saluto festoso a tutti
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12:10<retrospectacus>lily: right back at ya
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12:16<ivo888>Hi, 1 year ago i can start 2 skype on my machine
12:16<ivo888>but now i can`t. may be this is in new versions
12:17<ivo888>is there option again to can start 2 skype on 1 machine?
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12:21*Calinou makes the proprietary software dance, and answers: "no."
12:21<Calinou>quit using spyware
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12:25<cloudrf>skype is microsoft now so calinou is right
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12:29<txt_file>ivo888: as i heard that skype needs a parameter to start more than one spyware instances
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12:30<mtn>I always wear a tinfoil hat when I use Skype
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13:21<Dot5>hi all. Sticky Notes crashes every time I try to reload it to the panel. How can I retrieve my notes?
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13:48<ivo888>txt_file, what is this parameter?
13:48<pskosinski>Is anybody using quodlibet? I have very strange problem. It sometimes suddenly starts playing, no idea why.
13:49<pskosinski>Like someone would click something in my system. o_O What is rather impossible
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13:53<SynrG>media keys on your keyboard getting stepped on by the cat? :)
13:54<SynrG>ivo888: uh, context?
13:54<R33D3M33R>can somebody explain me the frozen state of wheezy: can bugfixes be added or only security fixes are applied?
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13:54<retrospectacus>SynrG: 09:29 < txt_file> ivo888: as i heard that skype needs a parameter to start more than one spyware instances
13:54<pskosinski>SynrG: I don't have media keys.
13:55<peter1138>bugfixes can be made
13:55<pskosinski>SynrG: I don't have cat either. ;)
13:56<SynrG>retrospectacus: it helps to know txt_file is someone's nick, not the name of a parameter :)
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13:57<R33D3M33R>aha, but after release packages are frozen for all except security fixes?
13:57<SynrG>R33D3M33R: it's all at the discretion of the release team
13:57<SynrG>anything can be fixed, so long as the release team agrees it does more good than harm
13:57<R33D3M33R>i'm just asking because I wonder if it makes sense to report stable version bugs that are not security issues
13:57<SynrG>it always makes sense to report bugs
13:58<R33D3M33R>great, thanks for the answers
13:58<SynrG>at the very least, other stable users are then aware there's a problem.
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13:59<SynrG>pskosinski: but my point was actually broader ... there's no chance a spurious input event is triggering it?
13:59<SynrG>pskosinski: mouse wheel or so
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13:59<SynrG>(some mouse wheels rotate freely and can be triggered with a very tiny bit of motion)
14:00<pskosinski>SynrG: I am using dwm, I was using different tag (aka desktop/screen) so I just do with mouse anything on tag (desktop) with music player ^^ But today it already a few times started playing no idea why
14:01<pskosinski>so I just couldn't do anything using mouse on that tag *
14:01*SynrG shrugs
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14:02<pskosinski>I don't have multimedia keys nor any other key binded to start playing… >.>
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14:03<pskosinski>Maybe strange bug in app, whatever
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14:05<ivo888>yes. thank you retrospectacus :)
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14:07<retrospectacus>ivo888: you shouldn't say/ask things and then immediately disappear, you won't get very good support
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14:26<PiMaN>hi
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14:27<CyberTop>hi
14:28<PiMaN>How many of you are using a Raspberry Pi?
14:29<CyberTop>who can help me, i can try to upgrade my system from stable to test, but i recive this error: could not perform configuration on 'python-pyatspi2'
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14:30<CyberTop>have anyone any suggestions? please
14:32<CyberTop>it is possible that my sourcelist wrong
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14:55<Guest6230>845G bugs situation ?
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14:56<ivo888>mmmmm retrospectacus i can`t understand
14:56<ivo888>may to have 2 skype is illegal?!?!
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