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#debian IRC Logs for 2013-06-07

---Logopened Fri Jun 07 00:00:54 2013
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00:45<k-man>i'm getting some strange errors when i try and install debian - general protection error in a perl module
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01:07<blami>what rotates /var/log/dmesg?
01:08<blami>I disabled rotation of logs in logrotate but dmesg is still being rotated and gzipped
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01:15<jm_>blami: /etc/init.d/bootlogs
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01:18<blami>jm_: ah, thanks
01:18<jm_>blami: no worries
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02:01<Monica232>Please somebody help! In my network properties i use static settings, i filled up, ip, dns etc.... But i still discovering in my /etc/resolv.conf my ISP DNS... how to get rid of this ? Sometimes ISP DNS shows in resolv file, when i strating firefox... can somebody help ?
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02:02<jm_>!resolv.conf
02:02<dpkg>/etc/resolv.conf is a resolver configuration file that contains your nameserver IPs. It is written by your DHCP client. To use different nameservers than those provided by DHCP, ask me about <override dns>. See also <fixresolvconf>.
02:02<jm_>ask dpkg about those two keywords
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02:13<Monica232>wft? I found in my /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf this : #supersede domain-name "fugue.com home.vix.com";
02:14<Monica232>fugue.com some lesbian magazine :D how that get into my conf ??
02:17<nmeum>1. fugue.com is not a lesbian magazine
02:17<nmeum>2. It is uncommented and only an example
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02:18<Atlas>bonjour tout le monde
02:18<nmeum>s/uncommented/commented/
02:18<nmeum>!ft
02:18<nmeum>!fr
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02:19<Monica232>:D ah ok
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02:27<aerion4>who feels like helping a noob?
02:27<stderr_dk>You?
02:27<aerion4>yes
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02:28<nevyn>!ask
02:28<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
02:29<aerion4>!ask is this 'channel' only for debian issues? how do i connect to another server?
02:29<dpkg>...but ask is already something else...
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02:29<aerion4>is thiis this 'channel' only for debian issues? how do i connect to another server?s 'channel' only for debian issues? how do i connect to another server?
02:29<andrewrogers>type in /join
02:30<stderr_dk>/server some.server.tld
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02:31<aerion4>thank you so much
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02:34<aerion4>clearly i have no idea what im doing. do i type /join /channel/
02:34<aerion4> or just /join channel
02:35<aerion4>im trying to get to irc.undernet.org
02:36<stderr_dk>/server irc.undernet.org
02:36<stderr_dk>/join #whatever-channel
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03:46<alephnull>The grub-efi-amd64 isn't writing the changes to EFI anymore.
03:46<alephnull>In the install-grub2 process, where does grub-efi-amd64 fit in ?
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03:59<babilen>alephnull: If you want to install grub you have to run "grub-install /dev/sdX" (with sdX being something like sda and the block device you want to write to)
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04:00<alephnull>bab
04:00<alephnull>oops
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04:01<Amir>کسی از ایران هست ؟
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04:01<alephnull>This is a regression afaict, I installed grub a while ago and updates to EFI have been happening until a week or so ago
04:01<Amir>az iran kasi hast ?
04:02<jm_>alephnull: what updates?
04:02<Amir>what is iranian room ?
04:03<Amir>where is ?
04:03<alephnull>Newer kernels. grub.cfg is generated correctly with the new kernels.
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04:03<Stummi>Amir, not sure if there is aktually one. In doubt, try english here
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04:04<jm_>I fail to see how newer kernels have anything to do with the "updates to EFI", whatever those are
04:04<Stummi>Amir, you can try #debian.ir or #debian-ir here and on freenode, if there isn't one there is probably no iranian channel
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04:05<Stummi>if you have some iranian debian using friends to build up an community, you could start one for yourself
04:05<Amir>ok Stummi, tnx
04:05<Amir>no iranian channel :(
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04:09<no_gravity>Hello! Anybody here using Debian 7 with gnome?
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04:10<ectospasm>!ask
04:10<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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04:10<no_gravity>ectospasm: I would like to know what happened to the update manager.
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04:11<no_gravity>It looks like debian 7 with gnome now handles updates like this: it randomly creates popups out of nowhere asking you for your root password to install updates. which is a security nightmare.
04:12<ectospasm>I don't use GNOME, so I can't help.
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04:12<no_gravity>ectospasm: thats why i asked my initial question
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04:13<no_gravity>i have been asking debian users since yesterday and it looks like im the only one left on planet earth who uses gnome.
04:13<stderr>Time to switch?
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04:14<jm_>heh
04:14<themill>no_gravity: can you tell us which update manager this is?
04:15<no_gravity>themill: i dont know. the popups appear sometimes. i dont know how to trigger them.
04:16<no_gravity>stderr: yes. i already switched one machine to mint. but i have been using debian for a long time now and like to stick to it if possible.
04:16<stderr>I mean "switch to Debian with e.g. xfce".
04:17<themill>do you have update-manager-gnome or gnome-packagekit installed?
04:17<no_gravity>is it possible to just ignore them and run apt-get update;apt-get upgrade from time to time?
04:17<themill>of course
04:17<no_gravity>stderr: i tried xfce and other window managers, but i didnt like them. i like gnome. gnome in classic mode is fine for me.
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04:20<no_gravity>themill: its a default debian 7 installation. nothing customized. update-manager-gnome is not installed. gnome-packagekit is.
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04:21<themill>there's a "gpk-prefs" application. If gnome-packagekit is involved that might help
04:21<themill>(#debian-gnome might know)
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04:27<alephnull>jm_: What I mean that the config I see in /boot/grub/grub.cfg is not what I see when I boot the machine.
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04:36<jm_>alephnull: I've seen that with old grub when it looked for a file on a different fs, back then it was possible to install it with built-in config file path - does this still happen if you reinstall grub as babilen said earlier?
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05:17<BEN__>hi, ive a problem when i try to boot on my USB HDD
05:18<elena_vvadelrey>hola
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06:57<azagael>whats the command in linux thats IPCONFIG in a windows terminal
06:57<ectospasm>azagael: ifconfig, interface configuration
06:57<ectospasm>though it does not work the same as ipconfig in Windows.
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06:58<Calinou>mostly the same
06:58<azagael>i want to see my DNS and IP
06:58<azagael>what command do i enter
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06:59<superkaos>ifconfig
06:59<superkaos>cat /etc/resov.conf
06:59<superkaos>this last one to see dns
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06:59<gumble>what if debian asks me for "lwl-wifi-6000-4.ucode" during install? I installed without it, but I need a wireless driver now :D
06:59<azagael>thanks
07:01<azagael>where can i find the default gateway?
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07:02<ectospasm>azagael: see the route command
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07:03<haker>hi I need to install wireless driver
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07:06<jm_>gumble: install it?
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07:09<Shadowart>Hi there. How to request package for debian? I'm sure it's not packed yet
07:10<jm_>!wnpp
07:10<dpkg>For information on packages which are not in Debian but you think should be, check the Work-Needing and Prospective Packages list at http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp (refinable list at http://wnpp.debian.net/). Use wnpp-alert (from the <devscripts> package) to see what packages you are using that are in need of help.
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07:18<anarchy-zio>salve ragazzi c' è qualcuno ?
07:18<jm_>!it
07:18<dpkg>Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help.
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07:46<Peetz0r>Hey! I have a laptop with a damaged audio port (I dropped it. Twice...). But the onboard speakers are still fine. SOmetimes the laptop thinkssomething is plugged in to the broken port, therefore not sending audio to the speakers. Can I somehow force it to always send audio to the speakers?
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07:46<Peetz0r>I run LMDE which is mostly Debian testing
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07:48<Stummi>AFAIK switching between audio port and speakers happens directly in the hardware
07:49<Stummi>and can't be controlled from the OS
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07:50<loicbardou>join debian_fr
07:50<Stummi>type "/join #debian-fr"
07:50<loicbardou>sorry mistake
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07:59<Peetz0r>Stummi: I know I once had an option somewhere to force audio on both, but I can't remember exactly
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09:13<gumble>I chose the automatic installation of a webserver during the installation of debian. which server is that?
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09:14<Apollo>apache2
09:14<gumble>thanks
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09:18<gumble>and which mysql? :D
09:19<gumble>I can't find the mysql daemon in init.d
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09:31<BEN__>hi, ive a problem when i try to boot on my USB HDD. Somebody can help me ? :)
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09:32<sanova>salve
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09:32<wintellect>BEN__: I don't know if I can help - but it'd be easier for everyone if you just explained your problem so those who can answer will
09:32<sanova>sorry.. not right channel
09:33<babilen>BEN__: You've asked that before and then left ... But we really require more details in order to be able to help you. What are you trying to boot?
09:33<BEN__>i have a HDD that boot in sata (sry for my english, im french :S)
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09:34<BEN__>and when i put it in my usb box, it doesn't boot
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09:34<BEN__>error : level loop
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09:36<vivek_>BEN : use Unetbootin software
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09:37<BEN__>i have two disk. A disk with Grub 1 and Debian 5.0. BOOT SATA : OK BOOT USB : ERROR 16
09:37<BEN__>and the other disk : GRUB 2, Debian 6. BOOT SATA : OK. BOOT USB : Grub error : level loop
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09:38<BEN__>my disks under 750go boots on SATA and USB
09:38<BEN__>only 750GO and 2TO dont boot.
09:38<vivek_>initially format ur usb and try again
09:38<BEN__>already try unetbootin ;)
09:39<vivek_>can u please show the exact error
09:39<vivek_>of what u r getting
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09:42<BEN__>okay, so one the first HDD 750Go (debian 5 + GRUB1) : i boot in usb box and i have : Grub loading stage 1.5. Grub loading, please wait .... ERROR 16
09:42<BEN__>(no error in sata, boot normally)
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09:45<babilen>vivek_, BEN__: unetbootin is known to break our installers
09:45<babilen>BEN__: Are you trying to install Debian?
09:45<BEN__>nop, debian is already installed
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09:46<babilen>BEN__: But you cannot boot it when a USB drive is plugged in? (it works fine without) *OR* It is installed on the USB drive and you cannot boot from there?
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09:50<vivek_>Would try 'testdisk' , it might be on your live linux cd
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09:51<babilen>BEN__: hello?
09:51<babilen>BEN__: Can you boot both fine if there is no USB drive plugged in?
09:52<BEN__>I have trouble making myself understood sorry. I'm french. My drive is bootable when it is in SATA okay ? But i want to make it bootable in a Portable External Hard Drive HDD Enclosure
09:52<babilen>BEN__: But typically you use *one* distribution/installation to manage the bootloader. You would therefore use either grub1 or grub2 to boot *both* installations.
09:53<vivek_>b
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09:54<babilen>BEN__: So, your setup is such that you have a bootloader installed on both disks (grub1 on the one with deb 5 and grub2 on the disk with deb 6) -- What you are trying to achieve is to be able to remove each of these disks and place it into an external usb enclosure while still being able to boot from it. Is that correct?
09:54<vivek_>BEN :you suddenly got this problem aaa
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09:55<BEN__>yeaaaah its correct !!! :D
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09:57<vivek_>i think your windows is corrupted. try any hard disk recovery utility
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09:57<Xylon>Hi, I had to change from GNOME to XFCE, but it doesn't have cool ability to manage files over ssh
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09:58<Xylon>how to duplicate it without having to use command line
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09:58<TRoss>Hi!
09:58<Xylon>Hi!
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09:59<Toyso>How are you?
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09:59<Maulkin>Xylon: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Thunar ?
09:59<babilen>BEN__: Okay, what I would do is: Put your disk in the USB enclosure and boot *the other system* from SATA. Then chroot into the system on USB and install grub from there ... there might be something tricky going on with booting from USB though.
09:59<TRoss>Pretty good.
09:59<Toyso>Thanks, I'm fine.
09:59<Maulkin>Xylon: That seems to mention using ssh://
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10:00<TRoss>Who has linux?
10:00<babilen>BEN__: You might also want to take a look at the documentation of the linux live project that has some information about installing Debian on removable devices. I am personally not too familiar with it.
10:00<Toyso>I have xubuntu.
10:00<Maulkin>Toyso: !ubuntu
10:00<Maulkin>!ubuntu
10:00<dpkg>Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>.
10:00<Xylon>Maulkin, Great! Thanks
10:00<BEN__>i already do this :'(
10:00<BEN__>okay for documentation
10:01<Toyso>I never did figure out the difference between ubuntu and linux.
10:01<babilen>TRoss, Toyso: This is a technical support channel for Debian and Debian users and not a chat channel. It is also not the Ubuntu help channel, so please be so kind and take your discussion somewhere else. (Ubuntu support questions to #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net and chat to ... anywhere really. #debian-offtopic or #moocows or ...)
10:01<babilen>dpkg: fr
10:01<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr.
10:02<Toyso>Well bye.
10:02<babilen>BEN__: We also have a French channel btw (here and on irc.freenode.net -- not sure which one is more active) -- But this is not really a language problems as I managed to figure out your problem.
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10:03<BEN__>thank you babilen :). But nobody can answer me on french's forum and there only 83
10:03<BEN__>people on irc debian-fr
10:03<BEN__>lol
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10:05<BEN__>but i will search some documentation about debian install on removable devices
10:05<Xylon>Maulkin, Thanks a lot man, #Debian is like a second brain sometimes.
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10:11<vivek_>how could i change my username using my ubuntu terminal .i already used usermod but not working
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10:12<themill>vivek_: #ubuntu is on irc.freenode.net
10:14<vivek_>but nobody is there
10:15<Vivek>vivek_: It would be a nice idea to use a search engine for your queries.
10:15<Vivek>Also this channel is for Debian specific help.
10:15<babilen>dpkg: ubuntuirc vivek_
10:15<dpkg>vivek_: This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server chat.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://chat.freenode.net/ubuntu
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10:16<babilen>vivek_: The channel is on irc.freenode.net not here on oftc -- There are more than 1600 people in there, so ...
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10:16<Vivek>You are asking a basic question for which you should do your homework of reading the manual and/or searching on the net before asking questions.
10:17<Vivek>You can try #linux also.
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10:18<Vivek>I am getting annoyed because every time you ask such stupid questions, my IRC client alerts me because of the similarity between our nicks.
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10:24<BEN__>thank you again babilen.
10:24<BEN__>see you next time !
10:24<BEN__>bb
10:24<BEN__>i will search again and again :D
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10:44<greenit>hi, how can i let a program run on a separate x-server? i've read that it is possible anyhow and the game i want to play always sets the screen-resolution to 800x600 and thats not very big^^
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10:45<jmmy>whats the window manager for xfce4?
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10:45<jmmy>xfwm
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10:46<jmmy>greenit, whats your setup?
10:46<jmmy>x-server is the most advanced for networking
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10:48<greenit>oh, sry, was afk :S
10:48<greenit>jmmy, my setup is debian 7.0 with gnome-shell
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10:48<jmmy>greenit, cool, I don't really know how to do it myself, but maybe this link will help: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Remote-X-Apps-8.html
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10:49<jmmy>when I said setup, I was asking like, where is the program, where do you want to run it kinda thing
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10:49<jmmy>You have two computers right?
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10:50<babilen>jmmy: I don't think so :)
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10:51<babilen>greenit: Just start a second server and set DISPLAY accordingly before you run the second program.
10:51<jmmy>greenit, you're in luck, babilen is a expert
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10:53<babilen>greenit: It shouldn't be too hard to run something like: X :42 & sleep 5 ; DISPLAY=:42 xterm, and run commands there
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10:54<babilen>greenit: That starts a second server and a xterm in there ... Otherwise the "login as other user" functionality of gnome might come in handy.
10:54<greenit>babilen, can you say me the right command for it? i would execute something like "xinit <program> -- :1 -br" ... would this crash?
10:54<greenit>babilen, oh, didn't see you already worte a command, i'll try that :)
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10:58<greenit>babilen, erm... well, i closed the terminal on the other screen... how can i "restart" the session?^^
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11:02<babilen>greenit: Which session?
11:02<babilen>The new one?
11:02<greenit>babilen, nvm, killed it the hard way^^
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11:02*babilen stops minding ;)
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11:05<babilen>greenit: You might want to take a look at xoo, xnest and xephyr ... also check the "New login" functionality in Gnome and so on. I simply wanted to demonstrate the "easiest" solution (which is not necessarily the best or user friendliest or ...)
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11:06<babilen>You can naturally also run "startx :42" if you want a full x session and if you want to start it from the command line.
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11:19<blawiz>my /usr/share/doc is 1GB, can i tell debian not to install such docs?
11:19<blawiz>can i delete the folder?
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11:29<blast007>blawiz: some software has a separate -doc package that may be 'recommended' and therefore normally gets installed.
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11:32<GreatoneWhite>ohai
11:32<babilen>blawiz: Are you running out of space?
11:32<blawiz>i guess if i delete the docs, they will be back at next upgrade?
11:32<blawiz>babilen, hehe ye
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11:33<babilen>blawiz: You probably have a number of -doc packages installed that you can remove. Try "aptitude search ~i~n-doc" and remove packages as you see fit.
11:33<babilen>(as suspected by blast007)
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11:34<blawiz>dont have aptitude :P can one do it with apt-????
11:35<jean_>gnome3 takes a long time to logout and looked into /var/log/messages and found [ warning] [vmusr] Error creating backup of old config file. and [ warning] [vmtoolsd] The vmusr service needs to run inside a virtual machine. I do not know whether these are things that are hanging.
11:36<blawiz>found some with dpkg -l|grep doc
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11:36<blawiz>wow, will save 739 MB
11:37<babilen>blawiz: Install aptitude - It has very useful features that come in handy once in a while.
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11:38<SynrG>a more extreme measure is to use 'localepurge'. note that technically this "damages" packages because it removes files that belong to them ...
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11:38<babilen>blawiz: You probably miss a number of other important packages .. I wouldn't use localepurge or other related tools if this is not necessary.
11:38<SynrG>that being said, on ultra-low-disk-space systems i find localepurge indispensible (e.g. eeepc model 4G, which only has a 4G hdd)
11:38*SynrG nods
11:38<SynrG>i agree
11:39<blawiz>managed to free up 7 GB now, i think that will do for a while :] my /usr is still 6.8 GM
11:39<babilen>(bleachbit, ...)
11:40<Zaba>I normally set APT::Install-Recommends to 0 on my debian systems
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11:40<Zaba>because I don't need recommended packages more often than I do
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11:40<blawiz>how much will localepurge save?
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11:41<blawiz>Zaba, where do i stick that line?
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11:42<Zaba>a file you create in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d, and the line would be 'APT::Install-Recommends "0";' or so
11:42<SynrG>blawiz: highly variable. depends on the system.
11:42<SynrG>blawiz: 100's of M, not thousands, usually.
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11:45<zerick>Hi guys, my NIC is not starting at boot, here is my dmesg output http://paste.debian.net/9039/, anybody could help me please ? :)
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11:45<blawiz>hmm.. not sure i dear touch the locales.. i dont understand them :S
11:45<blawiz>and often get in trouble with them
11:46<peter1138>zerick, not starting or not being configured?
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11:46<zerick>peter1138: not starting, if i do ifup eth0 it starts and works perfectly
11:47<peter1138>so you're probably just missing "auto eth0" in /etc/network/interfaces
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11:48<blawiz>*dare :>
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11:48<zerick>peter1138: I haved added that and it's rebooting ,. let's see :)
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11:52<zerick>peter1138: wow, big thanks :)
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11:52<peter1138>cool stuff
11:52<zerick>:)
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12:17<bullgard4>[Debian wheezy Xfce] When I press the key combination 'AltGr++' twice, a tilde will appear in my IRC client Chatzilla but not in my uxterm. The same applies to pressing twice the '^' key. What is the proper tool to correct this?
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12:19<doubledutch>I have Debian on an HP Mini 210-1000. How can I replicate the middle-click paste from terminal buffers and vim etc?
12:19<doubledutch>I love what I've got on my desktop and I'm wondering if some of you guys have run into the "middle click" issue on laptops and what you did.
12:19<doubledutch>Would be cool to interface a foot pedal.
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12:20<haylo>i can usually paste by clicking both laptop buttons at once. it sort of does the same thing as depressing the scroll wheel
12:20<haylo>not sure if thats what you mean though
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12:22<retrospectacus>both buttons at once works for me and I've also seen where you tap the side of the touchpad where the scrolling function is, or 2-finger tap if you have 2-finger scrolling
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12:28<aakreet>hi
12:28<retrospectacus>hi, aakreet
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12:29<aakreet>iam new on ubuntu
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12:29<daemonkeeper>#ubuntu will be glad to hear
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12:30<aakreet>can anyone tell me how to use backtrack
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12:30<retrospectacus>aakreet: maybe. Not here though, this is Debian support
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12:39<doubledutch>Thanks guys
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12:48<dbristow>I'd like to have a server email me when starting up and shutting down. Ideally the last thing it does on startup, and the first thing it does on shutdown.
12:48<dbristow>I can put a pseudo-service in /etc/init.d, but I am having trouble coming up with the imsserv info for it.
12:48<dbristow>I can do default-start: 2 3 4 5 and default-stop 0 1 6
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12:49<dbristow>But what should I put for Required-Start? I know at least $network.
12:49<dbristow>(ditto for Required-Stop)
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12:49<dbristow>Excuse me, insserv
12:50<retrospectacus>$all
12:50<dbristow>And that's it, or should it be $network $all ?
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12:51<retrospectacus>$all includes network
12:52<dbristow>Ahh, so that's the same as /etc/init.d/rc.local has
12:52<dbristow>Great, that's perfect.
12:53<retrospectacus>well, rc.local runs after init.d but does nothing on shutdown
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13:00<Guest1293>could some on give me a hint for my x-problem? I tried a lot of things and which component is the reason should be isolated by the tests: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=104733
13:00<dbristow>retrospectacus: No, I mean my thing would be similar to rc.local, but of course would also run on shutdown.
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13:00<retrospectacus>dbristow: then yeah, something in init.d with $all on Required-Start should do it
13:01<retrospectacus>see http://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts
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13:05<retrospectacus>not too sure about the Required-Stop though. that page seems to indicate you can't use $all
13:05<issm13>aaaa
13:05<retrospectacus>dbristow: $local_fs $network $named I guess
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13:07<bullgard4>[wheezy Xfce] When I press the key combination 'AltGr++' twice, a tilde will appear in my IRC client Chatzilla but not in my uxterm. The same applies to pressing twice the '^' key for the accent circonflexe. What is the proper tool to correct this?
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13:13<akhil>Hello.
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13:45<infrid>hi
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13:47<doubledutch>infrid: yo
13:47<infrid>:)
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14:09<backbox-Yass>ciao
14:10<retrospectacus>hello
14:10<backbox-Yass>qualcuno parla in italiano ?
14:10<retrospectacus>!it
14:10<dpkg>Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help.
14:11<retrospectacus>!backbox
14:11<dpkg>BackBox Linux is a distribution based on <Ubuntu> Lucid, developed to perform penetration tests and security assessments. It is not supported in #debian. http://www.backbox.org/ #backbox on irc.autistici.org. See also <based on debian>.
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14:12<nerea>ola
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14:13<ompaul>!es
14:13<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
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14:17<backbox-Yass>pero nel debian-it sn tutti off-line
14:17<backbox-Yass>è possibile
14:17<ompaul>#backbox on irc.autistici.org.
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14:48<bigdog>hi
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14:49<bigdog>Somebody can help me?
14:49<bigdog>I've a question about partition table
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14:50<bigdog>I've a windows partition in a GPT disk
14:50<bigdog>I need to install debian on this disk
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14:50<bigdog>so i'll convert this disk at mbr format
14:51<bigdog>can i clone (with acronis) my windows's GPT partition into a mbr disk?
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14:51<bigdog>or gpt & mbr ar too differents?
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14:52<bigdog>please someone
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15:07<mistnim>do you evere think about how great this community is, good people dedicated to a good cause, idealistic in their goals of using only free software. The democratic process, the help given to the whole linux improvement?
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15:36<Dark_light>I'm trying to get plymouth to work but all I get is the blue loading bar at the bottom of the screen
15:36<Dark_light>I've followed the instructions on the wiki
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15:56<abrotman>ugh, he left
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15:59<cistefan>hello guys :) is debian wheezy good for penetration testing? :)
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16:00<quentusrex>Is there any way to enable apt to use a local apt caching proxy, if the proxy is connectable? and if not then just connect directly?
16:00<cistefan>lawl :3
16:00<quentusrex>It'd be useful for laptops that are often on a network with an apt proxy cache, but they often leave the network.
16:00<cistefan>is debian wheezy good for penetration testing? :D
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16:04<cistefan>is debian wheezy good for penetration testing? :D
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16:05<blast007>cistefan: asking it repeatedly isn't going to get you an answer sooner..
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16:06<vook>How would I go about listing all packages installed from a certain repository?
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16:08<cistefan>l33t :D
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16:12<blast007>vook: http://superuser.com/questions/132346/find-packages-installed-from-a-certain-repository-with-aptitude
16:13<vook>yes, that's what I'm looking at now. I can't used synaptic though...
16:13<blast007>aptitude?
16:13<vook>that aptitude statement isn't working
16:14<blast007>k
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16:39<gary>anon whants to sell his hp envy 17 give him a txt at 602 327 9938
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16:50<gary_>lol
16:51<retrospectacus>gary: do you have a Debian question?
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17:00<haylo>blast007: btw "apt-cache madison $(dpkg --get-selections) | grep main" or "apt-cache madison $(dpkg --get-selections) | grep non-free"
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17:03<haylo>madison flag on apt-cache search will trigger the address line the package was retreived from. then you can just search that for the infos you need
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17:26<gary>anon back lol hp envy for sale
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17:29<gary>peece yall
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17:44<Dark_light>anyone using plymouth?
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17:44<Dark_light>I get this glib warning at boot using the joy theme Glib-WARNING **: getpwuid_r(): failed due tounknow user id(0)
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19:24<haylo>sry
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19:43<administrator_> LOAD [-e] <file>, loads a plugin or script
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19:45<administrator_> LOAD [-e] <file>, loads a plugin or script
19:46<retrospectacus>administrator_: do you have a Debian question?
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21:03<bjb>On a kdm system, where is the hook that starts up pulseaudio when the user logs in?
21:03<bjb>using pactl, I stopped pulseaudio and now it doesn't want to start again even if I log out and log back in
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21:09<bjb>Ok, so maybe I can do without pulseaudio. How can I make sound work without it (just using alsa?) I tried moving the .asoundrc file (which has pulse configs) and still no sound
21:09<bjb>speaker-test -c 2 -t wav runs through all the tests very quickly, as if it's trying to play them and getting end of stream right away and moving to the next channel. But no sound
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21:11<bjb>well ... now pulseaudio is running
21:11<bjb>Sure would be nice to know why it started
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21:13<bjb>same behaviour for speaker-test though
21:15<bjb>kdm display manager, fluxbox window manager
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21:20<bjb>Ok, hdmi device had been made "default". Now analog is default and I can hear stuff. But, I'd really like to know how the startup of pulseaudio is hooked into login
21:20<bjb>I can see no trace of pulseaudio in /etc/X11 files and it's not in my .xinitrc or .fluxbox
21:20<bjb>I think it runs when I log in because it's running as me.
21:21<bjb>I guess I can log out and ssh in to the system to see if pulse audio is running ... but that still won't tell me how it actually starts.
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21:41<cass>anyone have a copy of limewire?
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21:47<Daedalus>Anybody home?
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21:49<Daedalus___>welp. see you guys
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22:01<bjb>I have no idea ... logged out. pulseaudio was still running - as me (checked while sshed in as another user)
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22:01<bjb>logged back in to my X session as myself. pulse audio stopped running. Now it's running again
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22:02<bjb>However, I think it gets started from rc2.d/S21pulseaudio
22:02<bjb>but not in "system mode"
22:03<bjb>I wonder what would happen if I started a second X session (which I sometimes do) ...
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22:04<bjb>There is a /usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-x11 script
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22:24<bdavis>fantastic! Just testing my wireless connection! Cheers!
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23:13<claw_>hey there is http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/ available in german ?
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23:15<haylo>http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/index.de.html
23:17<claw_>thx
23:18<claw_>i was wondering cause there is no maint-guide-de pkg
23:18<haylo>claw_: is that satisifactory? i just backatracked through the web address until i found this http://www.debian.org/doc/devel-manuals#maint-guide
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23:19<haylo>i guess rooting off of this page http://www.debian.org/doc/#manuals
23:20<claw_>yes thats helps a lot
23:20<claw_>thx
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23:28<bullgard4>My Wheezy produces at the end of the boot process a voice output message "Welcome at (uncomprehennsible)!" What program does produce this voice output?
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