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00:02<haylo>bullgard4: do you have an /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf file ?
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00:10<bullgard4>haylo: Yes I do. Almost all lines are disabled. Exceptions are the followsing lines: " xserver-allow-tcp=false; greeter-session=lightdm-greeter; greeter-hide-users=true; session-wrapper=/etc/X11/Xsession;."
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00:17<somdumguy>any one can help with a video codec error I am assuming.
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00:18<somdumguy>I can't get video to work even after installing the medibuntu files and neither flv mp4 or avi is working
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00:22<bullgard4>somdumguy: "neiter is working" is no smart question. Please report what you have done and what precise error message you received.
00:23<bullgard4>+h
00:25<somdumguy>haven't recieved and error. ran vlc from command line. no errors tried installing all gstreamers and nothing again
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00:25<haylo>bullgard4: relax. somdumguy dont mix repositories. only use debian packages. enable non-free and contrib areas in your /etc/apt/sources.list and apt-get update
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00:26<somdumguy>didn't add repositories, straight off debian.org
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00:27<somdumguy>used wget for the mediabuntu's already remove them though when they didn't work
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00:44<Infiltrator>somdumguy: Post your /etc/apt/sources.list. Use a pastebin like paste.debian.net.
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00:53<user01>hey im getting some issues i think with overheating since upgrading. . . my laptop lenovo x201 says critical temperature 100 C and shuts down . . .
00:53<user01>i think that is also why the audio doesnt work
00:53<user01>any thoughts for fan issues?
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00:55<user01>i have thinkfan installed
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00:58<bullgard4>user01: Have a look at /proc/acpi/ibm/fan and analyze the values shown over time.
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01:03<user01>bullgard4, status: enabled speed: 3557 level: auto
01:04<haylo>user01: what type of thinkpad do you have ? there is this wiki http://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Thinkpad . "lspci | grep VGA" what is the video card? look through all of the ouput of "lspci" to see all of the pci devices
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01:04<user01>bullgard4, i had disabled pulse because i thought it was causing issues, but it was actually because when the audio was playing on the laptop itself it was causing some overheating
01:05<user01>haylo, 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
01:06<user01>haylo, x201
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01:08<user01>im reading this . . . sounds like me http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=610722
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01:10<jm_>user01: that fix is apparently available in wheezy version of thinkfan
01:10<user01>it looks like that bug was solved but the issue sounds the same
01:10<user01>jm_, well i didnt have the issue in squeeze, started happening in wheezy
01:11<jm_>user01: then it sounds like a different bug
01:11<user01>jm_, yep could be
01:12<jm_>try manually adjusting the fan for now
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01:15<user01>jm_, how do i translate the speed?
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01:20<bullgard4>[wheezy] Description of the DEB program package »task-desktop«: "This task package is used to install the Debian desktop." <-- What is "the Debian desktop"?
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01:22<jm_>user01: I have no idea. just experiment
01:22<themill>bullgard4: the packages that task-desktop depends upon
01:22<jm_>also look at recommends
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01:28<Eryn_1983_FL>hey is usb 2 suppose to do 10mb/
01:28<Eryn_1983_FL>10MB/s
01:28<Eryn_1983_FL>isnt it suppose to be close to 100?
01:29<bullgard4>100 Megabits/s
01:29<bullgard4>Please differntiate bits and bytes.
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01:30<SamB>10mb/s is 1/100th of a bit every second
01:30<themill>!SamB++
01:30<peter1138>usb 2 can be 1.5Mb/s, 12Mb/s or 480Mb/s
01:31<Eryn_1983_FL>:(
01:31<peter1138>but that's theoretical wire speed, not effective speed
01:31<Eryn_1983_FL>it says MB/s
01:31<Eryn_1983_FL>according to rsync
01:31<Eryn_1983_FL>dir to dir
01:32<peter1138>that'll be megabytes/s
01:32<Eryn_1983_FL>well i suppose its will take awhile
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01:34<jm_>practical limit for USB 2.0 is 30MB/s or there about
01:34<Eryn_1983_FL>it just hit it
01:36<Eryn_1983_FL>well it finished i was just impatien
01:36<Eryn_1983_FL>well it finished i was just impatient
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01:52<cuda>whr da frm
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02:01<bullgard4>themill: Thank you very much for providing me this definition.
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02:46<poiaufPqwer>n
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02:47<bullgard4>What is a "debtag"? http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=debtags did not enlighten me.
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02:48<Infiltrator>bullgard4: http://wiki.debian.org/Debtags/FAQ
02:49<Infiltrator>Gotten from https://www.google.com/search?q=debtag by the way. :P
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02:50<bullgard4>Infiltrator: Thank you very much for providing me this link.
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03:38<vivek_>hello, why is it so hard to test out the latest nVidia drivers in Debian?
03:38<bullgard4>Is the following statement true? "If I do not need languages like Japanese, Chinese, Korean, it is safe to purge the ibus package."
03:40<haylo>bullgard4: run "atitude why" to show if there is anything important depending on it
03:40<haylo>"aptitude why"
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03:42<bullgard4>haylo: '~$ LANG=C aptitude why ibus; Unable to find a reason to install ibus.'
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04:10<haylo>bullgard4: for i in $(dpkg --get-selections | sed s/install//) ; do aptitude why $i ; done .but it will take along time to run. pipe it into "| grep ibus"
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04:11<haylo>if you want, its kind of interesting. will list all of the dependencies on your machine. and should eventually find out what drew in ibus
04:13<haylo>so after you see what it does, can just run it and wait as: for i in $(dpkg --get-selections | sed s/install//) ; do aptitude why $i ; done | grep ibus
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04:22<system>debian excelente
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04:24<ectospasm>yes, yes it is
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04:46<pabs>I'm moving a physical machine into a virtual one (kvm), how do I get grub-pc to install to /dev/vda instead of /dev/sda?
04:47<yhdfTT>haylo: Yes, the message about deletion came from archive manager/file manager in gnome. Are you saying that it will not delete anything after all from the tar ball?
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04:48<weasel>pabs: maybe http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=mirror/dsa-misc.git;a=blob;f=scripts/VM-installs/ganeti-1and1#l168 can help
04:48<weasel>(I'm not exactly sure what the problem is you're having)
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05:29<deavid>Hi, i'm, running Debian Sid/experimental with Linux 3.8-2-686-pae, and i'm having problems with virtualbox-dkms, same problem as reported here: http://siduction.org/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=3097&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15&sid=182e48869a7b2ace4fe11f75d2a671a2 ... but i'm trying to upgrade virtualbox as they did, but i found that i'm already using the latest version available from Debian Sid or experimental. anyone knows about this
05:29<deavid> problem?
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05:30<badboy>!list
05:30<dpkg>badboy: È possibile di scaricare un sacco di software libero puntando il tuo browser a http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-7.0.0-amd64-i386-netinst.iso !
05:31<Maulkin>deavid: Not likely, check bugs.debian.org. Basically, if you're running sid/experimental, you're kinda on your own
05:32<deavid>yes, i know i'm on my own... but i ask anyway :) seems a bug on virtualbox
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05:32<Supaplex>or #debian-next
05:32<Supaplex>deavid: ^^^
05:32<deavid>i didn't know about #debian-next
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05:33<deavid>i'll ask again the question there, just to see if someone noticed it. Seems it's a bug/incompatibility since kernel 3.7.1
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05:34<Mullet>Has anyone else experienced the random "loss" of IPv6 configurations (it remains enabled and the linklocal address is retained, but the global address just disappears) after the upgrade to wheezy?
05:34<Supaplex>I'll look. maybe it's related to my kvm issue.
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05:46<deavid>Supaplex: thanks, there i got the answer: i could upgrade to 4.2.x to fix the problem. But since i haven't enabled contrib on Sid repo, i was seeing virtualbox from testing (4.1.x).
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06:04<bullgard4>haylo: I run '~$ (for i in $(dpkg --get-selections | sed s/install//) ; do aptitude why $i ; done) | grep ibus' but cold not find out what drew in ibus.
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06:04<Infiltrator>bullgard4: Just do `aptitude why ibus`.
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06:06<bullgard4>Infiltrator: I did what you suggest, before. The answer was that aptitude does not know any reason for installing ibus.
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06:11<Infiltrator>bullgard4: Then you can safely remove it. :)
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06:12<Supaplex_>deavid: cool.
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06:14<bullgard4>Infiltrator: Ok.
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06:14<babilen>bullgard4: It must be marked as manually installed and you probably installed it yourself in the past.
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06:15<bullgard4>babilen: How can I display the marking ("manually installed") of this package?
06:16<babilen>bullgard4: "aptitude show PKG" will show it
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06:23<bullgard4>babilen: Yes it does. And it shows the marking as you predicted. -- Thank you.
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06:37<lifeeternal>salam
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06:40<weizheng>hello
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06:43<Maulkin>Well, if you leave straight away...
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06:44<Infiltrator>Hi!
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06:44*Infiltrator runs away before anybody can answer.
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06:54<Supaplex>humm... I wonder if there's a bt client that will share an nfs store (lan side) as well as local peer discovery (wan side) to safely write to the same file
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07:38<babilen>o/
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08:13<idmite>Hello!!!
08:13<idmite>Hello!!!
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08:13<SynrG>idmite: do you have a debian support question?
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08:14<idmite>Actually am new in this system
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08:17<SynrG>idmite: "this system" is debian? or something else? this channel is focused on debian support only.
08:18<idmite>Ok
08:18<idmite>What's debian?
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08:19<SynrG>an operating system. i suspect if you don't know what it is, you don't use it.
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08:19<SynrG>if you're just learning irc, see:
08:19<SynrG>!irc primer
08:19<dpkg>"A Short IRC Primer": http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/ircprimer.html . See also "The IRC Prelude": http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/new2irc.html
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08:20<SynrG>if your irc client defaults to joining channel #debian, consider figuring out how to change that, as that default is inappropriate if you're not using debian.
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08:34<bullgard4>http://wiki.debian.org/Debtags/FAQ#What_is_Debtags.3F: "Where can I find information about debtags? On Debtags (http://wiki.debian.org/Debtags) you can find an index." What is the name or headline of this index in http://wiki.debian.org/Debtags?
08:34<babilen>what?
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08:36<babilen>bullgard4: I don't follow - An "index" is called "index" on a website or somewhere else. There certainly are synonyms, but you can look those up yourself.
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08:38<bullgard4>babilen: No. The webpage http://wiki.debian.org/Debtags does not include a word »index«.
08:38<SynrG>it is, itself, an index
08:38<babilen>bullgard4: It *is* the index
08:38<SynrG>it simply lists a bunch of things about Debtags
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08:39<SynrG>you wanted to find out more about debtags, right? there it is. an index of pages on debtags.
08:39<bullgard4>Ah, I see. Thank you for explaining.
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08:45<babilen>bullgard4: The next time you might want to make use of online dictionaries such as the OED (e.g. http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/index?q=index) and search engines such as google. See http://lmgtfy.com/?q=define%3Aindex for a demonstration on how to use that. Please be aware that we are all volunteers in here and that you potentially waste our time by asking mundane questions like that. be considerate and do some research ...
08:45<babilen>... yourself. Thank you!
08:46<paddy>heh
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08:47<paddy>another one who failed to ask a smart question. stupid humans.
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09:02<stevenm>Lo... I have an application I can't edit that calls dpkg... Does dpkg read /etc/apt or some other config where I can make --force-bad-version a default or inherited option?
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09:03<stevenm>nvm i see /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg
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09:34<trico>can i install python 2.7 and 3 and still have 2.7 as the default?
09:35<Apollo>yes
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09:37<trico>how? is there an article or wiki page on that?
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09:37<themill>trico: there's nothing to write about for that -- that's just how it is
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09:38<Ryccardo>probably just a whack of update-alternatives
09:38<Apollo>^ exactly
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09:38<themill>no
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09:39<themill>You'll see that /usr/bin/python etc are not managed by alternatives. You don't change the default python... but you also don't need to.
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09:41<trico>if i install two versions of python, what is /usr/bin/python? 2 or 3?
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09:42<themill>/usr/bin/python is python 2.6 on squeeze and 2.7 on wheezy. Any distribution that has python pointing to python3 is pretty broken
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10:11<lord_rob>Hi! I finally managed to install Skype
10:12<lord_rob>multiacrch works really well since wheezy but now apt-get dist-upgrade wants to delete everything :386
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10:13<lord_rob>(including skype of course)
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10:14<musca>lord_rob: provide details on paste.debian.net, please
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10:15<lord_rob>http://paste.debian.net/9512
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10:19<lord_rob>maybe I'll pin everything :386 I never use anything except for that crappy skype
10:20<stderr>What does dpkg --print-foreign-architectures say?
10:21<lord_rob>i386
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10:21<lord_rob>I'm on AMD64
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10:23<musca>lord_rob: why are three packages kept back? python-qt4 python-qt4-sql python-sip
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10:24<lord_rob>hmm dunno, i386 amd64 conflicts maybe ?
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10:24<stderr>Could you try aptitude instead? Just to see if it wants to remove those packages too.
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10:30<stderr>lord_rob: Does aptitude why-not skype give any hints?
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10:31<lord_rob>stderr: python-qt4 python-qt4-sql python-sip want to be upgraded
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10:32<stderr>Was that the aptitude dist-upgrade or the aptitude why-not command?
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10:34<lord_rob>http://paste.debian.net/9514/
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10:37<lord_rob>http://paste.debian.net/9516/ <-------------- dist-upgrade (previous was why-not)
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10:39<lord_rob>http://paste.debian.net/9514/ <---------- aptitude why-not python-qt4 python-qt4-sql python-sip (aptitude why-not skype:i386 finds no reason)
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10:42<stderr>lord_rob: You're trying to upgrade from wheezy to jessie, right?
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10:44<lord_rob>no I'm on SID
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10:45<lord_rob>always been btw
10:45<stderr>Ah... Then you're on your own. :-) Good luck...
10:46<lord_rob>but this skype problem is unrelated to the distro I'm using I think
10:48<SynrG>lord_rob: i have skype on sid (i would suggest at this point continuing on #debian-next is more appropriate, though ...)
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11:14<Ryccardo>when a runlevel script is run, its $0 is /etc/init.d/… or /etc/rc*.d/… ?
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11:17<norbert79>Good day... I would like to ask some Apache2 related question, but somehow Debian related. As being on SID I moved to Apache 2.4, but it seems, that the latest update has somehow borked all Direcotry and Alias methods and not allowing using any Alias to directories outside of /var/www... Anyone bumped into this problem?
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11:18<daemonkeeper>Reading apache2.conf helps
11:19<norbert79>daemonkeeper: checked, got through all
11:19<daemonkeeper>You did not.
11:19<norbert79>daemonkeeper: that's almsot a basic layout
11:19<daemonkeeper>http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-apache/apache2.git;a=blob;f=debian/config-dir/apache2.conf;h=fad3af3b58e181db27dfe58ab13d43d83a8892c5;hb=HEAD#l147
11:20<norbert79>Yeah, disbaled that, no change
11:20<norbert79>it still doesn't manage finding things outside of /var/www
11:21<norbert79>weird thing is, that only through loglevel of "debug" I am able seeing where it looks
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11:22<norbert79>I still get 404 for the directory which worked perfectly with 2.2
11:23<norbert79>or does the new model apply the settings still despite disabled in the config file?
11:23<norbert79>as SSH does apply default rules
11:23<norbert79>even when not defined
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11:26<daemonkeeper>I don't know what you mean, "disabling" means you need to grant access.
11:27<daemonkeeper>So the "Require all denied" denies access.
11:27<Ganneff>i bet he commented those default lines
11:27<norbert79>daemonkeeper: No, I meant by disabling I meant I wanted to allow the same functionality as with 2.2, but it seemed disabling the mentioned lines forced no change
11:27<norbert79>aye
11:27<Ganneff>and expects apache now to allow all of the fs to access
11:27<norbert79>Ganneff: Yeah, regular logic
11:27<Ganneff>instead of setting a proper directory entry for this
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11:28<norbert79>Ganneff: Well, if you have a nicer solution I would be happy seeing that, this basically watsed few hours of my life by now :)
11:28<Ganneff>directory /> allow all </Directory>. in proper apache config syntax.
11:29<norbert79>well, what I am unsure of is, that while I have such defined for my smaller sites does apache2.conf overrule them?
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11:30<daemonkeeper>It's a FIFO, unless you explicitly inherit security settings.
11:30<norbert79>So that means a yes
11:30<norbert79>that explains it, thank you
11:30<norbert79>let me try changing that
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11:32<daemonkeeper>Apache allows access to / by default, unless you deny it any further (as apache2.conf does in 2.4)
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11:33<norbert79>daemonkeeper: Cheers, this helped a lot, not changed yet, but it makes me come closer
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11:48<Hyperborean_Ro>hello
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11:49<Hyperborean_Ro>any1 know if u can use Y-PPA manager in Knoppix 7.0.5 ?
11:49<babilen>dpkg: knoppix
11:49<dpkg>Knoppix is _not_ Debian. Seek Knoppix help in freenode's #knoppix. Knoppix is a live CD distribution which is <based on Debian>, useful as a rescue CD, to test hardware, and for situations where you have access to a computer but it isn't Debian. http://www.knoppix.com/ unofficial: http://Debian-knoppix.alioth.Debian.org/ <Debian-live> is the Debian equivalent for publishing live systems.
11:49<babilen>dpkg: ne1
11:49<dpkg>There is no such nick ne1. If you can't be bothered to type 'anyone' we can't be bothered to help you. IRC shorthand for "I don't have two braincells to rub together" (circa EFnet #amiga mid-90s).
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11:50<retrospectacus>using Knoppix as your OS is also a sign of that
11:51<blink>so, is anybody familiar with kfreebsd and zfs on root?
11:51<retrospectacus>dpkg: tell Hyperborean_Ro about install debian
11:51<Hyperborean_Ro>ok thank you,i`m new to Linux ;D
11:51<retrospectacus>blink: those in #debian-kbsd may be
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11:54<babilen>Hyperborean_Ro: You might want to try Debian (http://www.debian.org) - See "/msg dpkg install debian" for further details about that and use the images linked in "/msg dpkg firmware image" if you have a working internet connection during the installation.
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11:54<babilen>Hyperborean_Ro: I don't know what y-ppa is though and have, therefore, no idea if it runs on Debian
11:55<trico>danm, i closed the toolbox and layers things for gimp, how do i get them back?
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11:55<Ryccardo>trico: aren't them in the View menu?
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11:56<trico>no, i found them in recently closed docks under window. thanks though.
11:56<Ryccardo>ah sorry, got them mixed up
11:56<Hyperborean_Ro>whats the web page that allows u to copy paste masive texts ?
11:56<babilen>http://paste.debian.net
11:56<Hyperborean_Ro>thx
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12:31<wolfje>OEPS
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13:00<infrid>hi
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13:01<doubledutch>infrid: yo
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13:12<rui_1734>hi
13:13<SynrG>hi. got a debian support question?
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13:14<simNIX>recomends start with what that question is, so any here can judge if they know that bit
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13:16<retrospectacus>saying "hi" and immediately leave is pretty popular too
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13:38<somiaj>or asking the question and leaving which is usually 30seconds before the answer comes
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13:43<dominik>hi all
13:44<dominik>this is my first time ; D
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13:46<jewels>hi there. I can't understand why when I came back from idle mode my external mouse doesn't work anymore.
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13:46<somiaj>jewels: usb? Does unplugging it and plugging it back in help?
13:47<jewels>I've tried to un-plug the usb receiver. But nothing seems solve the problem
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13:47<somiaj>jewels: when you unplug/replug it in, does
13:47<somiaj>jewels: 'dmesg | tail' say anything about you plugging in a usb device?
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13:47<trico>this is a wireless mouse?
13:47<jewels>it has a usb receiver.
13:48<jewels>with wireless sure.
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13:48<somiaj>well check demsg, see if the usb reciver is being correctly detected
13:48<trico>try clicking the mouse buttons. maybe just moving it isn't enough to wake it up
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13:49<somiaj>it shoudl be the last few lines of dmesg, if the usb reciver is being detected as a mouse, then it is something with your wireless doing an auto powersaving or something and not resynnc with it's reciver
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13:49<jewels>dmesg | tail
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13:50<jewels>[ 6478.660236] psmouse serio1: Touchpad at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 6
13:50<jewels>[ 6478.695433] psmouse serio1: Touchpad at isa0060/serio1/input0 - driver resynced.
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13:51<jewels>I can't understand why it does it.
13:51<jewels>everything works perfectly with this debian version..
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13:53<jewels>somiaj, I think that is something connected with the power management. If i set up from powertop the auto suspend feature the mouse goes in idle mode after just a few seconds of inactivity
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13:53<jewels>so I have disabled auto suspend mode.
13:53<jewels>but when the latptop goes in idle mode, I have this problem. arg
13:55<somiaj>those are lines about your touchpad...I thought you said this was a usb wireless mouse?
13:56<SynrG>i don't know about you, but i found powertop meddling with my wireless usb mouse made it unusably jerky
13:56<SynrG>i've never tested it across a suspend because it behaved so badly
13:57<SynrG>maybe you could use /etc/pm/sleep.d/ to script a solution?
13:57<jewels>somiaj, the result of the command that you have suggested to me is that one..
13:58<SynrG>you would need to figure out how to toggle the usb state back again (whatever powertop does)
13:58<jewels>SynrG, Yes it's a very bad solution that with powertop.
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13:58<jewels>SynrG, maybe I need a complete calibration?
13:58*SynrG shrugs
13:58<SynrG>clearly more experimentation is needed :)
13:59<jewels>I've installed powertop from the repository and not from the source. I have an older version..
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13:59<somiaj>jewels: did you unplug and plug in the mouse right before you did that?
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13:59<jewels>yes sure. I'll go to do that again. wait :)
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14:02<jewels>somiaj, http://paste.debian.net/9541/
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14:04<jewels>SynrG, which version do you have?
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14:04<SynrG>jewels: of?
14:04<jewels>sorry. which version of powertop do you have?
14:05<SynrG>i don't think today's version matters. i last tried this months ago
14:05<jewels>PowerTOP v2.3 this is the last one.
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14:05<SynrG>i couldn't tell you what version i had when i tested it. sorry
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14:05<toli__>hello all, could you please help me use my hybrid Intel with nvidia hdmi does not work
14:05<jewels>now I have 2.3
14:05<toli__>I use wheezy
14:05<jewels>sorry, 2.0
14:06<SynrG>!bumblebee
14:06<dpkg>The Bumblebee project aims to provide support for the Nvidia Optimus GPU switching technology on Linux systems. GeForce 400M (4xxM) and later mobile GPU series are Optimus-enabled; if «lspci -nn | grep '\''[030[02]\]'» returns two lines, the laptop likely uses Optimus. Packaged for Debian in <testing> and <wheezy-backports>. http://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee http://bumblebee-project.org/ #bumblebee on irc.freenode.net.
14:06<toli__>installed Bumblebee, but the hdmi does not work
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14:06<SynrG>toli__: that's the sum total of what i know about it. sorry :/
14:06<SynrG>maybe others here ...?
14:06*SynrG shrugs
14:09<somiaj>jewels: okay looks like your wireless reciver is being detected. Have you tried to reset the wireless mouse to make it resync with the reciver
14:09<somiaj>jewels: also check out 'xinput list' -- do you see the wireless reciver under core pointers?
14:09<jewels>somiaj, I haven't a command called 'xinput'
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14:10<somiaj>jewels: ahh I thought it was a core utility. there is an 'xinput' package
14:11<SynrG>also there's a toolset for input layer in general
14:11<SynrG>input-utils
14:11<SynrG>you may find something in there that is of use
14:12<jewels>somiaj, I've tried to turn it off and on again
14:12<jewels>nothing
14:12<jewels>just a moment
14:12<jewels>I'll be back in a minute
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14:14<SynrG>not me. i'm out. later
14:16<trico>i have a computer that always gets SERVFAIL when nslookup server1. why might that be?
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14:17<retrospectacus>trico: your DNS server(s) don't know an IP for "server1".
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14:18<trico>its only on this one computer. every other computer gets the correct response
14:18<retrospectacus>maybe they are asking a different DNS server
14:19<retrospectacus>or server1 is in /etc/hosts
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14:19<trico>computer1 does nslookup server one and gets SERVFAIL, computer2, computer3 get the IP
14:19<toli__>when I run Nvidia X server it says just run nvidia-xconfig, but the command is not found
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14:19<toli__>it says I am not using the nvidia x server driver !
14:19<trico>it is in the hosts file....
14:20<retrospectacus>trico: nslookup does not use hosts, actually
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14:20<trico>commenting out that line didnt fix it
14:20<retrospectacus>trico: compare the "Server" outputs of the nslookup attempts
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14:21<retrospectacus>toli__: http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers
14:21<trico>i see the dns server's ip on both computers
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14:22<retrospectacus>trico: put server1 back in hosts and be happy. nothing uses nslookup anymore anyways
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14:23<tania>buenas
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14:23<retrospectacus>!es
14:23<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
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14:23<tania>ola
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14:24<retrospectacus>tania: Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian.
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14:25<tania>ola
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14:25<tania>alguien me podria decir que es esto?
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14:26<tania>gracias, simpaticos.
14:26<tania>que es esto?
14:26<retrospectacus>tania: Ingles! usted no puede leer?
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14:27<tania>Hello!
14:27-!-Q-Master_ [~qmaster@2.93.220.29] has joined #debian
14:27<retrospectacus>tania: Hi. Please ask your Debian question.
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14:29<tania>have tuenti?
14:29<jewels>somiaj, ⎜ ↳ Logitech USB Receiver id=14 [slave pointer (2)]
14:29<jewels>⎜ ↳ Logitech USB Receiver id=15 [slave pointer (2)]
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14:30<tania>have tuenti?
14:30<somiaj>jewels: seeing it there twice seems strange. But I can't see what the issue is
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14:32<jewels>somiaj, do you suggest to try the latest version of powertop??
14:32<tania>what?
14:33<tania>o_O
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14:36<localh0st>salve..
14:36<Ryccardo>~
14:37<jewels>somiaj, seems that it's a common property of logitech mouse.
14:37<jewels>somiaj, all of them in xinput has two entries.
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14:43<GummyJon>hi
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14:43<GummyJon>hi:)
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14:45<GummyJon>bye bye
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14:46<mike>hello
14:46-!-mike is now known as Guest1603
14:46<Guest1603>hello
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14:47<Guest1603>what is the best linux software to not get hacked
14:48<Guest1603>does anyone know
14:48<bigjust->no
14:48<Ryccardo>it's pretty much secure as it is
14:48<sney>I don't even understand what you're asking
14:48<Ryccardo>as long as you don't go around installing services for the lulz
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14:49<sney>http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ this is generally worth a read if you have a public-facing machine
14:49<Guest1603>what about software updates can someone throw a bad update into my system
14:49<sney>but "best linux software to not get hacked" is basically nonsense.
14:50<sney>Guest1603: not from official repositories.
14:50<daemonkeeper>Sure that's possible.
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14:50<sney>well, it's not 100% impossible but it is massively unlikely within the official mirrors
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14:50<Ryccardo>it would show a signature error
14:51<Guest1603>ok this is why i asked i was useing microsoft windows and alot of bad shit happened to me so i discovered ubuntu
14:51<Ryccardo>(even though 99% of the time you get them it's a corrupted download or simply you don't have the keys installed…)
14:51<sney>Guest1603: ok, well, this is not the ubuntu channel. we support debian here which is not the same thing.
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14:52<Ryccardo>nothing is 100% safe, but there are virtually no direct vulnerabilities on Linux (i.e. drive by downloads)
14:52<Mullet>Does anyone know why the garbage collection cronjob that is shipped with php5-common uses 'fuser' to check each session instead of just deleting the files based on their ctime?
14:52<Ryccardo>surely you don't have to type your password if a prompt randomly comes up
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14:53<Guest1603>someone has been taking pictures from my laptop camera when i got hacked they didnt a system restore and i saw pictures from 2010
14:53<daemonkeeper>sney: I only say DSA 1571-1.
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14:54<sney>Guest1603: the weakest point in any security system is people. if you don't want your personal system to be compromised, be responsible about security updates and have a good password policy
14:54-!-nhobart [~quassel@64.132.201.98] has joined #debian
14:54<Ryccardo>sney: FACT
14:54<Guest1603>i do now
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14:55<Ryccardo>sney: "Vista UAC always asks for permission, follow this guide to disable it"
14:56<Guest1603>what is the best ubuntu to use i am using Xubuntu right now what do you guys use!
14:56<sney>Guest1603: this is not the ubuntu channel. this is #debian. we use debian. it's not the same thing as ubuntu.
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14:56<sney>Guest1603: if you want to talk to ubuntu people, try going back to your server list and actually looking at it this time
14:56<Ryccardo>Guest1603: it's just different desktops
14:56<daemonkeeper>you understand that a) this is off-topic and b) there is zero difference under the hood between various Ubuntu flavors?
14:57<Guest1603>how do i get #debian
14:57<sney>www.debian.org
14:57<Guest1603>and is this the safest
14:57<Ryccardo>the historically safest is OpenBSD
14:57<Guest1603>as far as being private and working the net
14:57<daemonkeeper>errr. no.
14:57<Ryccardo>and that means nothing
14:57<daemonkeeper>OpenBSD is no more safe than Linux.
14:58<sney>man people trust debian, many people trust centos, many people trust openbsd or whatever - use what you understand. use what you trust.
14:58<sney>learn something well and secure it yourself. there is nothing that will hold your hand and make everything safe for you
14:58<Ryccardo>daemonkeeper: there were only 2 or 3 vulnerabilities ever iirc
14:58<Guest1603>so if i am noting doing things i am supposed to on the net how do i stay hidden
14:58<Guest1603>from all
14:58-!-jabowery [~quassel@209-181-155-137.omah.qwest.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
14:58<sney>LEARN
14:59<Ryccardo>100% security: leave it turned off
14:59<sney>go read things. there is no quick tip, there is no howto
14:59<Ryccardo>works wirh any OS too
14:59-!-jabowery [~quassel@209-181-155-137.omah.qwest.net] has joined #debian
14:59<sney>learn, understand, do it yourself. this is the only good approach.
14:59<daemonkeeper>Ryccardo: That's bullshit. They say "no more than XX remote root exploit in the default install over the past YY years" which means essentially zero, as there are just no services but SSH enabled it in. Linux + (the same) SSH had no more.
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14:59<daemonkeeper>It's just PR.
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15:00<daemonkeeper>Oh, they updated it to "Only two remote holes in the default install, in a heck of a long time!"
15:00<daemonkeeper>Anyway. Still the same.
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15:01<Ryccardo>daemonkeeper: heh, you're likely right… it comes with practically noting indeed
15:01<Guest1603>thanks guys i know the only way to learn is to read but i like to ask i will try the others and see how things pan out
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15:02<Guest1603>what about plug ins
15:02<daemonkeeper>What about them
15:02<Guest1603>anyone teach me what not to have in that
15:03<Guest1603>so people wont know my location
15:03<sney>plugins for what
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15:03<Guest1603>like this wedsite i go to ask about sliverlight plugin and i need to have it to view reports
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15:04<Guest1603>your internet
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15:04*Ryccardo (lol silverlight)
15:04<Guest1603>the web sight has personal info so
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15:05<Guest1603>i hate anything microsoft
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15:05<Guest1603>i will never trust them again
15:05<sney>Guest1603: do you have a debian question?
15:05<bigjust->Guest1603: this is not really the place for this discussion, but you should check out eff.org
15:05<Guest1603>there was an agent tapped into my windows opertating system
15:05<bigjust->that's probably true
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15:06<Guest1603>believe it they have been taking pictures since 2010 of me and my wife! fuck that
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15:06<bigjust->i sincerely believe you
15:07<retrospectacus>Guest1603: let us know when you have installed Debian and have a support question about Debian
15:07<ompaul>Guest1603: that is not a debian question it is somewhat offtopic for a debian tech support channel
15:07<Guest1603>so i am learning to live without them LMAO fuck em
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15:39<Ryccardo>what's /etc/passwd- ? Just a backup?
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15:44<mekt>Ryccardo: shadow password file. Security development that happened due history.
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15:44<mekt>due to history.
15:44<Ryccardo>isn't that /etc/shadow?
15:45<Ryccardo>and even the regular one has the passwords… the - is lacking one account though
15:46<mekt>I'm uncertain now. Was password- was the original shadow password file? then it got moved to shadow?
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15:47<daemonkeeper>Reading passwd(5) helps you all.
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15:47<Ryccardo>heh, I was right
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15:48<daemonkeeper>If you aren't confused enough yet, look at /var/backups/
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15:49<Ryccardo>too late, I was already sure about emptying that folder :)
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16:17<toli>guys I tried to install the nvidia driven on wheezy, but now my gnome opens everything in blue I can't see the windows anymore :( can anyone help pls
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16:22<retrospectacus>toli: what directions did you follow?
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16:22<toli>retrospectacus, I followed this tuto http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers
16:23<toli>retrospectacus, but maybe it does not work with laptops ? and hybrid dual with intel ?
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16:23<rz>i think you should do your own research if u need to know that
16:23<rz>in all honesty
16:24<adamm>toli: those hybrid things have problems, I'm not sure when nVidia resolved them, but if they did it was very recent.
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16:25<toli>rz, my laptop is two years old now, this should not be a problem anymore there is not much info about it
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16:25<sney>intel/nvidia shared graphics are garbage and not well supported
16:25<sney>sometimes it "works" but never well
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16:26<sney>nvidia I think recently announced that they might support it in linux, after saying for years that they would not, but afaik nothing has been released yet
16:26<toli>my problem is that I want to use the hdmi
16:26<toli>the hdmi is on the intel
16:26<rz>did u google'd the video card + hdmi linux etc? maybe that will point u out in the right direction
16:26<rz>i didnt had an nvidia in years tought
16:27<adamm>toli: try using Intel drivers then. with xrandr you can then setup your output
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16:28<adamm>toli: running xrandr in terminal (in X) will tell you all outputs available. Read man page (man xrandr) for how to enable/disable outputs.
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16:29<toli>adamm, ty, yes I can see all my outputs
16:29<retrospectacus>ssh root@axel
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16:29<retrospectacus>sorry
16:29<rz>lol
16:29<toli>:
16:29<toli>:p
16:29<trico>meh, ive seen much worse stuff copypasted
16:30<rz>true, but fun to see that im not the only one
16:30<rz>haha
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16:33<wolfstein>hi all!
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16:35<retrospectacus>wolfstein: sup
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16:36<toli>nvidiahave a driver for 400M, but when I try to install it says that I dont have this kind of vga
16:36<toli>Version: 319.17 - Release Date: 2 May 2013
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16:37<towo`>toli, you should not use the nvidia-installer in debian
16:37<toli>towo`, not supported ?
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16:37<toli>isnt it any alternative
16:38<retrospectacus>toli: have you installed bumblebee? I think someone was telling you about this earlier
16:38<ompaul>!nvidia dkms
16:38<towo`>toli, 400M sounds like otimus
16:38<dpkg>For Debian 7.0 "Wheezy" users. Ask me about <contrib> and <non-free sources>. «aptitude -r install linux-headers-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` nvidia-kernel-dkms && mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf». Restart your system to enable the <nouveau> blacklist.
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16:38<ompaul>towo`: iirc it is
16:39<towo`>for optimus the factoid will not work
16:39<sney>this guy doesn't even want to use the nvidia part so there may be hope for him
16:39<toli>retrospectacus, I did install the bumblebee, but it doesnt work with hdmi I will reinstall it. does that means that if I want to use the driver of nvidia I have to run the app via the terminal ?
16:39<ompaul>toli: if it is optimus then all fails
16:40<towo`>and for the built-in optimus support in 319.17 debian has not the needed versions of some packages
16:40<toli>I dont know, it says GT 420m
16:40<adamm>In initramfs, are disk devices suppose to be visible at the init-premount stage? In Linux 3.6.x and prior, they were. But 3.8.x and 3.9.x, the scripts can no longer see any drives.
16:40<towo`>toli, lspci | grep -i vga
16:40<toli>towo`, 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation Device 0df1 (rev ff)
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16:41<towo`>toli, that's all?
16:41<toli>no, rsy
16:41<toli>intel
16:41<toli>00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 18)
16:41<towo`>then it is optimus
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16:41<toli>sry*
16:41<towo`>so you have to use bumblebee
16:41<toli>towo`, but how I fix the problem with the gnome ?
16:42<towo`>which problem?
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16:42<toli>all my windows are blue and nothing is visible
16:42<toli>only olf gnome works
16:42<toli>old
16:42<crash>hi
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16:43<towo`>toli, maybe the intel driver is not running correct
16:43<towo`>toli, you could paste /var/log/Xorg.0.log on a pastebin
16:43<toli>towo`, The nvidia driver is the main vga for the LID
16:44<towo`>i can't believe
16:44<towo`>i have never seen such optimus setup
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16:44<toli>hmm
16:45<towo`>in optimus the IGP is the only device, which is connected to a display out
16:45<toli>when I want to use the hdmi is the intel driver, and when is the laptop's lcd is the nvidia according to win 7
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16:46<towo`>the nvidia chips is rendering direct to the intel-framebuffer
16:46<toli>towo`, here is my conf http://pastebin.com/cMcjV4wy
16:46<toli>ah ok
16:47<wolfstein>what is a ddc on irc?
16:47<wolfstein>and why could it be dangerous?
16:48<Ryccardo>dcc?
16:48<wolfstein>yep dcc
16:48<toli>ddc is the file transfer
16:48<toli>dcc*
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16:48<Ryccardo>direct (off-server) private chat or file transfer
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16:48<Ryccardo>nothing inherently dangerous
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16:48<retrospectacus>dpkg: tell wolfstein about dcc
16:48<towo`>toli, the logfile stats crystalclear, the system is using the intel-chip
16:48<Ryccardo>just relatively a bitch to configure
16:48<towo`>toli, glxinfo | grep -i render sayes what?
16:49<wolfstein>some guys told me that
16:49<wolfstein>to not accept any dcc from anyone
16:49<toli>towo`, direct rendering: Yes
16:49<toli>OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) Ironlake Mobile
16:49<toli> GL_NV_conditional_render, GL_ARB_ES2_compatibility,
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16:50<Ryccardo>wolfstein: unless you have some old version of mirc there's no inherent danger
16:50<wolfstein>but i dunno why
16:50<towo`>toli, your system is working correct
16:50<Ryccardo>wolfstein: of course don't blindly open executables
16:50<wolfstein>actually i m using xchat
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16:50<towo`>toli, since i do not use or like gnome, i can't help either
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16:50<toli>towo`, I will restart the X, will come back
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16:52<wolfstein>actually i m trying to setup a vpn
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16:52<wolfstein>with different kind of services
16:52<wolfstein>jabber, webservices, ecc.
16:52<wolfstein>this is the first time that
16:53<retrospectacus>wolfstein: please type your full Debian support question before hitting Enter
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16:53<toli>wolfstein, towo` yes, it seems working now :) I just removed the installed nvidia driver
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16:54<toli>towo`, but my nvidia server setting keep saying that my computer is not set to use the nvidia
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16:56<wolfstein>this is a first time that I setup a VPN, I have a mini server debian based, i have installed openvpn, now I what to now if opening port of the vpn on the router/gateway is enough or I need to open all ports of each services
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16:57<musca>toli: did you create a /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/*.conf with a device section for driver "nvidia"?
16:57<towo`>musca, he has a optimus setup
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16:58<wolfstein>services have to be available only through the vpn
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16:58<musca>oh, i'm out
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16:58<towo`>so normal nvidia install can't work, only bumblebee
16:58<toli>haha
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16:58<toli>I use bumblee, but do I have to start all via the terminal to be able to use the nvidia
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16:59<Ryccardo>wolfstein: nope, only forward the vpn port
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17:00<sney>toli, probably. bumblebee is just a hack to make it "work"
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17:01<towo`>toli, witch kernel >= 3.9,xserver 1.14 and 319-series driver the situation on optimus becomes better
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17:02<towo`>s/witch/with
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17:03<toli>towo`, I use 3.2.0-4-amd64
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17:03<towo`>i know
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17:04<toli>towo`, so you advise to upgrade ?
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17:04<towo`>toli, you can't upgrade
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17:04<towo`>toli, or do you see xserver 1.14 anywhere in debian?
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17:05<toli>towo`, ver 1.7
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17:05<towo`>no
17:06<towo`>1.12
17:06<towo`>i speak from the server, not xorg
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17:06<toli>ah
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17:06<toli>well I dont know where to look
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17:10<toli>well it's ok., it works so np
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17:13<TheSnide>what's the use of "rescue" iso ?
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17:14<retrospectacus>rescue
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17:14<TheSnide>how is it different than the "rescue" menu item on the "standard" iso ?
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17:41<jp_16>hi, im trying to customize my power chasis button to turn off my pc with no need of keyboard/mouse interaction
17:41<jp_16>any help?
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17:42<retrospectacus>power management settings
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17:43<somiaj>jp_16: various ways to do it. I think at the low level you use acpi or udev to detect the power button press, and then can run a script (Such as shutdown) when it is hit
17:43<somiaj>at the high level, seems as if gnome has a fancy power manager
17:44<Ryccardo>yeah, acpi handles power button by default on console
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17:44<jp_16>yes, i have seen /etc/acpi scripts and all appears ok
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17:45<jp_16>but i dont know how to see what event is throw when i press the power button
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17:51<aidalgol>Which versions of OpenGL does Mesa in wheezy support?
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17:51<jp_16>Ryccardo, do you mean energy settings at system settings panel?
17:52<somiaj>jp_16: http://paste.debian.net/9588/ -- those are the two scripts/events I have.
17:52<somiaj>jp_16: those were set up by default when I installed this laptop
17:52<jp_16>somiaj, gonna see ;)
17:52<mtn>aidalgol: you can go to http://packages.debian.org to see what is in the distro
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17:53<Ryccardo>jp_16: no idea, it's always worked fine out of the box and I use xfce -- but the Gnome control panel is too Apple style (overly simplified)
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21:03<k-man>can you install debian using just the first DVD? or will it prompt me for more dvds?
21:03<abrotman>yes, you can
21:03<abrotman>you can even use just the netinst
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21:03<stderr>... if your network is working.
21:04<abrotman>no, you can use the netinst even if it isn't
21:04<k-man>oh ok
21:04<k-man>thanks
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21:05<SamB>abrotman: at the very least you're likely to find the selection of packages lacking
21:06<abrotman>SamB: that may be true, but it doesn't make it any less possible
21:07<stderr>Depends on what you call "Debian"?
21:07<abrotman>no
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21:07<abrotman>the netinst gives you a base system, it's perfectly usable
21:09<stderr>So you're saying "Debian" == "A base system"?
21:09<themill>that's as good as any other arbitrary definition you might want to choose
21:10<abrotman>stderr: perhaps you should try it instead of continuing this argument
21:10<stderr>themill: Exactly my point... Depends on what you call "Debian".
21:10<themill>stderr: so you're just arguing for the sake of it then?
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21:10<abrotman>are you surprised?
21:10<stderr>Yes... :-)
21:10<abrotman>stderr: you're still wrong, have a good day
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21:10<stderr>You too.
21:11<themill>(actually, I'd take a base install as a better definition of a Debian install than anything else you want propose)
21:11<SamB>stderr: if you think you need ALL of the packages to have Debian, you are going to be bitterly disappointed
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21:12<stderr>I agree... My point was that if someone tries the netinst without working network and they expect to get a full functional desktop system, they might be disappointed.
21:13<abrotman>i'ts still a funcitonal system
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21:13<stderr>abrotman: Note: "Desktop"...
21:13<themill>stderr: then you should say that rather than the incorrect "if your network is working"
21:13<abrotman>just because you need a clicky pointy thing doesn't mean everyone does
21:13<stderr>abrotman: I don't. Maybe k-man did.
21:14<themill>stderr: bored now.
21:14<abrotman>still wrong, back to watching paint dry
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21:16<SamB>abrotman: make the computer do it instead and play a game
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21:19<k-man>maybe i did what?
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21:21<wdoodle>k-man: maybe you needed a desktop system rather than a base system
21:22<k-man>oh - well not sure yet - probably
21:22<k-man>i was having problems installing the netinst, it kept failing, so while i was diagnosing i donloaded the dvd with jigdo
21:22<k-man>anyway, i think i worked out the issue now, it was a memory fault
21:23<k-man>so probably a netinst will work now that I've fixed it, but as I have the DVD, I might as well give that a go
21:24<wdoodle>k-man: is the machine your going to install connected to the Net
21:24<wdoodle>?
21:24<k-man>yes
21:25<wdoodle>then either the netinst or the DVD are going to give you pretty much the same thing if you configure repositories during the install
21:25<k-man>yeah ok
21:25<wdoodle>if i remember correctly...
21:26<stderr>The DVD will probably add itself as a repository, but you can always remove that.
21:26<k-man>well, i'll soon find out
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21:26<k-man>writing the img to a usb stick as we speak
21:27<wdoodle>good luck
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21:27<k-man>i should work out doing net boots oneday
21:27<k-man>you know what would be cool? if you could netboot off the internet to install debian
21:28<k-man>hmm.. only problem with DVDs is they are big and take a while to write to usb sticks
21:28<mbentley>k-man: i've been using debian live builds on netboot for a couple of years and it's a great tool have to around. no need to have a cd or usb stick around.
21:29<stderr>k-man: I'm not sure netbooting off a random server on the internet is a good idea. Not even if you _think_ it's debian.
21:29<k-man>stderr, you are probably right
21:30<k-man>i've still not found a really simple way to make a boot usb stick for debian on a windows machine
21:30<k-man>unetbootin is the simplest i've found so far, but it seems to do some dodgy rewriting of the boot menu
21:31<abrotman>don't use unetbootin
21:31<haylo>just dd or cat the thing to a usb, all of the usb making tools unetbooting and all that are crap. and stderr stop lying to users
21:31<stderr>haylo: Lying about what?
21:31<k-man>haylo, thats not easy on windows 7 in my experience
21:31<k-man>abrotman, why not?
21:32<abrotman>k-man: there are other tools for that .. unetbootin is a broken pile of crap
21:32<k-man>abrotman, ouch
21:32<k-man>abrotman, which others?
21:33<dvs>k-man: win32diskimager
21:34<stderr>dd for windows
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21:35<mbentley>dvs: i agree. i use win32diskimager as well
21:35<k-man>stderr, i wen't down that path and there was all sorts of problems with it not working in win7 64 bit
21:35<k-man>and frankly, trauling sites trying to find a working version of dd for 64 bit windows is boring
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21:36*abrotman isn't sure why you need a 64bit dd to write an ISO
21:36<stderr>Ok, I don't use windows, so I wouldn't know.
21:36<k-man>abrotman, the 32 bit one refused to run
21:36<k-man>but w32diskimager seems to be working
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21:41<k-man>this is interesting: http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=debian%2C%20%20ubuntu%2C%20%20linux&cmpt=q
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21:42<k-man>why do you think searches for linux, debian and ubuntu seem to be going down over time
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21:43<stderr>If you already have Debian installed, you probably already know the website, so you're less likely to search again.
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21:44<stderr>If you don't have Debian installed and your friend says go to debian.org to get the iso, you're also less likely to search.
21:45*themill points towards #debian-offtopic
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21:46<haylo>stderr: its pretty established to not tell users to use dd for windows, and to use win32diskimager . its been a convention on #debian-live for a while now. and i have never once seen anyone in #d use dd on windows either
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21:46<k-man>ok, sorry for the off topic
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21:47<haylo>additionally it is a convention to recommend cat or cp over dd for linux, so dd for windows, is just plain wrong
21:47<stderr>Ok.
21:48<k-man>and my 2c worth, its not very helpful to recommend a tool that you have no experience using, ie dd on windows when you stated that you don't use windows
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21:50<stderr>Sorry, I just saw a site where someone was using it to write an ISO to a USB stick.
21:52<stderr>haylo: If it isn't recommended to use dd on Linux, someone should change this page: http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#write-usb
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21:54<themill>stderr: please stop arguing with everyone.
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21:54<abrotman>that's also not dd for windows
21:54<abrotman>not sure how much it matters
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21:57<wardhan>hi all, dpkg configures unconfigured packages. can somebody please tell me the command, i forgot it. and i am at loss to describe it also.
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21:58<abrotman>wardhan: dpkg --configure -a ?
21:59<wardhan>abortman: thank you, yes it is.
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22:02<wardhan>just now i upgraded my system & some step failed, it indicated to install linux-headers. probably i should run dpkg-reconfigure foo.
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22:03<themill>wardhan: "aptitude install" is normally pretty good at sorting everything out for you
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22:04<SamB>haylo: cp? really?
22:04<SamB>how does that even ...
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22:05<Serverket>hello, I have an issue, a file that I try to delete (even with the cli and --force) but it doesn't dissapear, kde says that the file doesn't exist but it is still there, what should I do?
22:06*themill makes SamB read the release notes
22:06<wardhan>just now i did dist-upgrade.
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22:09<higor>does anyone know where can i get some translation help ?
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22:11<abrotman>higor: translating what?
22:12<higor>abrotman: technical text
22:12<higor>is just an abstract
22:13<higor>abrotman: i am not sure about it
22:13<Serverket>help please :<
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22:13<themill>higor: there's a ##english over on irc.freenode.net who might be able to help (or point to people who can)
22:13<Serverket>issue: a file that I try to delete (even with the cli and --force) but it doesn't dissapear, kde says that the file doesn't exist but it is still there, what should I do?
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22:16<saiarcot895>Serverket: I don't use KDE or Debian, but is there a refresh somewhere?
22:16<higor>thanks a lot abrotman and themill
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22:16<Serverket>yes
22:16<Serverket>I've tried
22:16<Serverket>nothing happens
22:16<abrotman>Serverket: what's the filename?
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22:16<Serverket>PROGRAMACI+�N IV -Introd PHP.pdf
22:17<Serverket>I've tried to change the filename but it says that it doesn't exist
22:17<Serverket>but it is still there
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22:18<abrotman>Serverket: tried to quote it ?
22:19<themill>Serverket: using tab completion or wildcards might help there
22:19<Serverket>yes, but it doesn't applies the changes
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22:19<saiarcot895>Serverket: Such as rm -rf PROGRAMA* in cli
22:19<abrotman>don't need -r ?
22:19<abrotman>or -f ?
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22:19<saiarcot895>True, you don't need -r
22:20<themill>-f will act to hide errors in the deletion process too
22:20<saiarcot895>I consider -f as a precautionary measure, but might be safer not to include here
22:20<haylo>yeah use tab complete and try to grab the real file name . it shoudl look something like this PROGRAMACI+N\ IV\ -Introd\ PHP.pdf
22:20<themill>plus other characters with weird encoding
22:21<Serverket>I've used --force and that command line you told me but same result, still there
22:21<wdoodle>Serverket: rm PROGRAMA* assumes you have no other files starting with PROGRAMA that you want to keep
22:21<Serverket>ok, doing...
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22:22<Serverket>OH THANKS YOU SO MUCH!!! rm PROGRAMA* did the job
22:23<Serverket>thank you really guys, thanks thanks
22:23<Serverket>but why normal commands didn't work?
22:24<Serverket>like rm, rm --force, rm -rf... why?
22:24<abrotman>stop with the -rf
22:24<themill>-f isn't doing what you think -- if the filename isn't right for any reason, it just ignores the error rather than reporting the error
22:24<Serverket>ooh
22:24<Serverket>I see
22:25<themill>and complicated filenames with non-ascii characters are easy to get wrong -- the filename is in iso8859 and you're typing the character in utf-8 and there is suddenly no file in existence with the name you've specified.
22:26<Serverket>I understand
22:26<Serverket>cli uses utf-8 right?
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22:27<themill>that would be the default (and most sane) configuration, yes.
22:27<Serverket>and why it wasn't removed with the "send to trash can"?
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22:29<themill>no idea. It might be that the unrepresentable characters borked that
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22:32<Serverket>It has sense, it was really helpful to know that, I'll take care with those kind of files in the future
22:32<Serverket>thank you very much
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22:34<k-man>you know in the installer how it asks you if the system clock is set to UTC or local time? what should you answer if you don't know?
22:35<k-man>well, i went with Yes
22:35<abrotman>okay
22:35<abrotman>you can change it later
22:35<k-man>they say patience is a virtue - i seem to be lacking it today
22:35<k-man>abrotman, thanks
22:36<k-man>you can write to the system clock from linux anyway can't you?
22:36<k-man>hwclock or something iirc
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22:37<Serverket>have a good night guys, good luck, God bless you
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22:41<k-man>so on this debian machine i want it to log into X at startup and show a web browswer in kiosk mode, as a dashboard, which window manager would you recomment?
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22:45<abrotman>what does it matter?
22:45<abrotman>it's in kiosk mode, you hsouldn't really notice which WM you use
22:46<SamB>you need a WM for that ;-P?
22:46<abrotman>you odn't technically
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22:47<haylo>stderr: SamB: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03.html
22:47<abrotman>really? you couldn't just let it go?
22:49<SamB>abrotman: I *am* still puzzled about how cp was supposed to be useful; presumably this will un-puzzle me?
22:49<abrotman>just let it go ..
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22:53<SamB>huh, I didn't know it was safe to cp to a device node
22:53*SamB goes to read the posix-based manpage
22:53<haylo>just have to run sync, its actually kind of interesting to know
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22:58<haylo>i am following that guide and making the bootable syslinux usb, i hadnt seen this page before. pretty neat. usually i end up relying on extlinux-update or grub-update to handle everything and use ext3. but this looks better
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22:59<SamB>hmm, it seems that cp is supposed to open() the dest_file if it can, and otherwise try to unlink() it
23:01<SamB>oh, but it's only allowed/supposed to unlink() with -f
23:03<haylo>i think the important thing is not sending users away with a bunch of rm -rf's and dd /dev/sdb's
23:04<haylo>thats my guess as to why this had become a convention here. but really i can only postulate. perhaps at this point it does not matter
23:05<SamB>dd gives more interesting output ;-)
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23:29<k-man>is there some way i could hide the mouse cursor? for my dashboard i'm setting up, no need to have the cursor displayed
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23:36<SamB>k-man: is it because there is no mouse that you think it is okay if there is no mouse cursor?
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23:41<aidalgol>SamB: I'm guessing it's either a touch screen or it takes no input (i.e. just a display).
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23:42<aidalgol>And stop imitating ELIZA. ;)
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23:54<k-man>SamB, just because i don't want the cursor visible - therse are program called unclutter that does the trick
23:54<k-man>aidalgol, yeah, just its not for taking input usually
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23:55<k-man>its just going to show a webpage that dynamicly updates. a dashboard
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23:59<CRACK3R>hey
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23:59<CRACK3R>who know how to reset Fglx to Default ?
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