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#debian IRC Logs for 2013-06-26

---Logopened Wed Jun 26 00:00:03 2013
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01:22<yihahoi>hi! has anyone been able to play steam games with wine on x64 debian?
01:22<yihahoi>with an ati graphics card D:?
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02:32<_tgs3>bugs in the installation process should have Package: installation-reports
02:32<_tgs3>?
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02:46<spots>hi, does anyone know how to fix the sd card error "Switching to 1.8V signalling voltage failed"?
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03:46<peppe>!list
03:46<dpkg>peppe: vedi http://packages.debian.org/
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04:02<damion>Hello?
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04:31<zooz>morning people
04:31<zooz>is there a pbuilder channel?
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04:57<spectator>So...now for the first time in my life i've joined IRC...and??? Are you guys all bots or something???
04:57<jm_>yes
04:58<abz>stable debian is so reliable no one has any questions on this support channel
04:58<spectator>COOL!!!
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06:33<epirus1>hi guys ,How to stop the ppp0?
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06:36<bullgard4>epirus1: Why do you want to stop a device?
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06:38<jm_>how did you start it?
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06:39<epirus1>bullgard4,It's vpn connection. Point-to-Point Protocol
06:39<epirus1>so I want to stop
06:39<epirus1>it
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06:40<epirus1>It starts through the pptpd
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06:41<bullgard4>epirus1: http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialPPP.html
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06:41<jm_>which has an init script: /etc/init.d/pptpd
06:41<jm_>and /usr/share/doc/pptpd/README.Debian
06:42<epirus1>ok,thx
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07:13<TobiX>epirus1: ppp-connections can be controlled with pon and poff, but I don't know if pptp counts as a true ppp connection...
07:14<TobiX>epirus1: On a desktop, just use NetworkManager...
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07:20<jm_>i use ifup/ifdown for ppp
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07:35<spots>hi, i can't get my sd card slot to work with debian, does anyone know how to fix the "Switching to 1.8V signalling voltage failed" error?
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07:57<Dark_light>I can't chgrp on a usb stick I just formatted
07:57<Dark_light>neither with my regular user nor with root
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07:58<stderr>Dark_light: What filesystem did you use?
07:58<Dark_light>stderr, fat32
07:58<stderr>User and group doesn't make sense on fat32.
07:59<Dark_light>oh I see
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08:00<stderr>As far as I remember, you can use uid=... and gid=... as mount options, if you need a specific user/group on the stick.
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08:01<Dark_light>thanks!
08:01<stderr>No problem.
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08:18<patwotrik>fan vad äckligt
08:19<patwotrik>jag har nu en 33cl burk som är full med snus
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08:20<gnugr>patwotrik:try English
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08:21<patwotrik>gnugr: ?
08:21<gnugr>patwotrik:only English in here, if you want debian support
08:22<patwotrik>ups
08:22<patwotrik>wrong channel :)
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08:22<patwotrik>sorry about that
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08:53<tgs3>how to install apps that I have on install cd?
08:53<tgs3>apt-cdrom is not working (says that it added, but then apt-get install doesnt do anything)
08:53<tgs3>using deb copy:///media/cdrom/ etc, seems to work, but then it warns me the files are not crypto signed
08:53<tgs3>(I wanted to post here instead freenode actually)
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08:55<musca>tgs3: dpg -i [list of debs]
08:56<tgs3>musca: dpkg ? it does not verify gpg signs too
08:56<musca>hmm.
08:57<blast007>tgs3: did you run 'apt-get update' after running apt-cdrom?
08:57<tgs3>nor does it load dependencies.... does it?
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08:57<tgs3>blast007: yes, and still nothing. apt-cdrom seems to be doing nothing. My sources.list is empty, right? If it containd cdrom[Debian Wheezy .... ] then it also doesn't do anything
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08:58<babilen>tgs3: You should be able to add Debian CD/DVD/BD images with apt-cdrom -- Could you provide more information about the image you are using, how you call apt-cdrom and the content of your /etc/apt/sources.list before and after you executed apt-cdrom? Please also provide apt-get/aptitude output and that of "apt-cache policy PKG" for the pacakge in question. Allo preferably on a pastebin such as http://paste.debian.net
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08:59<babilen>*Also
08:59<tgs3>babilen: apt-cdrom identify sees the netinstall cd. apt-cdrom add says something like "ok, do the same for other CDs" or something. apt.sources is not edited by apt-cdrom should I edit it? I uncomented there deb cdrom:[Debian Wheezy....] line that was from instalation
09:00<tgs3>then apt-get install anything says 0 matching found. .eg. apt-get install vim.
09:00<babilen>tgs3: Please show me the information I requested on http://paste.debian.net
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09:00<babilen>tgs3: And AFAICT apt-cdrom should simply add entries to your sources.list
09:00<babilen>dpkg: tell tgs3 -about show sources.list
09:00<tgs3>when I go the copy:// route and put copy:///root/installcd-copy/ in sources.list then it starts installing vim-runtime but says not trusted (not signed). babilen hmm I will try but it's really very uncomfortable, thats why I try to do network-less install in 1st place, any hints so far?
09:01<babilen>tgs3: Make sure you get everything.
09:01<babilen>Why is it uncomfortable? Which image are you trying to add? Which package are you trying to install? Why don't you have network?
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09:02<tgs3>babilen: only security is to cut off network cable :)
09:03<tgs3>babilen: trying to install quite standard tools, I will copy there install CD 1 and 2 too. like mc, vim-full, atop, gcc
09:03<babilen>tgs3: That surely means that you are connected to the internet and that you could provide the requested information - But then, you can answer my questions anyway.
09:03<babilen>tgs3: Which image?
09:04<tgs3>actually. it seems apt-offline would work too. then only I would need to get apt-offline there, with all the dependnecies. This is a network-install image, done without using network at installation
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09:06<babilen>tgs3: Which CD images are you trying to add with apt-cdrom? What does your /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*} look like after you did that? What is the content of /var/lib/apt/cdroms.list before and after you executed apt-cdrom? What is listed by apt-cache policy for the respective packages?
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09:08<tgs3>ok one sec
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09:09<babilen>and yes, you can, naturally, also use tools such as apt-zip or apt-offline or a local mirror with "corporate" blessed packages (but then, why do you allow security if you don't trust Debian or why don't you allow access to all repositories?)
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09:10<tgs3>babilen: model is that debian is trusted (someone needs to be), but network, isp is not
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09:13<babilen>tgs3: If you trust our CD images then you can trust our repositories (cf. http://wiki.debian.org/SecureApt )
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09:13<babilen>tgs3: Unless you pick them up in person from a member of the CD team.
09:14<babilen>tgs3: Either way, I can't really help you without further information. It also sounds as if you want to make use of a local mirror, but then I don't quite understand your design …
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09:15<tgs3>babilen: I already verified checksum of the net-install-cd. if apt-cdrom, or deb copy:// will verify the checksums, then I do not have to verify checksums of the 7 other cdroms for example, just fells securer..
09:16<tgs3>babilen: I will get that info, but simple questions... deb copy:// works but it warns it's not signed. is copy:// proto not supporting verification of signatures as opposed to http://, or is there something wrong?
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09:18<jalalsfs>This command in debian, intltool-update http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdl8_intltool-update.htm from which package?
09:18<babilen>tgs3: It would work for actual repositories (but the CDs are not) that use signed release files.
09:21<stderr>jalalsfs: dpkg -S intltool-update
09:22<stderr>jalalsfs: Or, if you don't have the package installed: aptitude install apt-file && apt-file update && apt-file search intltool-update
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09:25<jalalsfs>stderr, Thanks a lot.
09:25<stderr>No problem.
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09:37<tgs3>babilen: so both cdrom:// nor copy:// of the copy of files that I can get form install CDs will NOT give me verificable (on target system) files?
09:37<tgs3>babilen: can I download some files on USB and put them on target laptop like in /var/repocopy/ in a way that apt-get will verify checksums that will be there in /var/repocopy?
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09:38<dietlinde>hello
09:38<tgs3>babilen: so then the copy:// is working but as expected (now I know) warns about missing signatures http://paste.debian.net/12788/
09:38<tgs3>babilen: but this is a bug? I can't get apt-cdrom of install netinstall cd to at all work. http://paste.debian.net/12789/
09:39<dietlinde>@babilen
09:39<dietlinde>maybe that will work:
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09:40<dietlinde>type nano /etc/sources.list and post the output here
09:40<dietlinde>/etc/apt/sources.list
09:40<dietlinde>ex
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09:41<itheripper>hello
09:41<itheripper>how can i learn more about irc
09:41<babilen>tgs3: Is this an actual CD that has been burned to a blank?
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09:41<itheripper>is there any documentation?
09:41<tgs3>babilen: it's on usb stick, mounted on /media/cdrom
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09:42<tgs3>babilen: it's the same stick from which the system was installed
09:42<Nik05>itheripper https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irc
09:42<babilen>tgs3: So you are actually trying to add a USB stick (created how?) or .iso image to your sources.list not an actual CD?
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09:42<tgs3>babilen: it is correctly recorded, becuase the installation was done from it. mount sees it as iso9660
09:43<babilen>tgs3: I am also not sure if the packages you want are available on the netinst image
09:43<babilen>tgs3: How did you "record" it?
09:43<tgs3>babilen: dd if=./debian...netinstal....iso of=/dev/sdb
09:44<babilen>okay, that should work
09:44<tgs3>apt-cdrom ident recognizes it correctly too
09:44<tgs3>but later doesn't want to use it.
09:44<loso>Whe I try to use a command at sql map is says Usage: python sqlmap.py [options] but when i press it it says python: can't open file 'sqlmap.py': [Errno 2] No such file or directory
09:44<tgs3>babilen: if the config there is correct, then is it a bug?
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09:44<babilen>tgs3: IIRC apt-cdrom actually mounts CDs itself and prompts you for insertion. You don't add mounted images but the actual CD
09:44<tgs3>babilen: you can -m to skip mount/unmount
09:44<babilen>tgs3: I don't quite see any "apt-cdrom add" command in your paste
09:45<tgs3>babilen: there was.. I retyped by hand what it said. btw would be nice to have screen, vim-full in netinst
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09:46<babilen>Unnecessary clutter - Just install from CD1 DVD1 if you need additional packages.
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09:50<babilen>tgs3: You could also look into simply loop mounting the iso which would, at least, remove the unnecessary complication of this CD being an USB stick. I haven't done this in ages, but I remember that it worked quite nice in the past.
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09:52<babilen>bbl
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09:57<aaronjlin>testing
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09:59<SynrG>!testing
09:59<dpkg>Testing is a continuously updated release between <stable> and <unstable>, currently codenamed <jessie>. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting and ask me about <testing faq> <wheezy->jessie> <testing security> <moving target> <dda> <apt-listchanges> <apt-listbugs> and <bts>. You should have a sound knowledge of Debian packaging and be prepared for a bumpy ride at times. Don't use it on things that are critical or on servers.
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10:00<OdyX> /win 29
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10:03<aaronjlin>is this channel usually lively or mostly deserted?
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10:06<babilen>aaronjlin: There are probably more active channels on IRC, but it is reasonably active. Can we help you with Debian?
10:06<SynrG>aaronjlin: this is the debian support channel. it is very much alive. do you have a debian support question?
10:06<aaronjlin>thanks babilen and SynrG. Right now I'm all fine, I'm just getting started with Debian
10:07<aaronjlin>I've toyed around with Ubuntu for a few years but recently bought a VPS subscription and have been playing around with Debian.
10:07<aaronjlin>I was just surprised that people were still using IRC after all these years
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10:09<babilen>aaronjlin: Well, welcome to Debian and to our channel. We also have a social chat channel called #debian-offtopic that you might or might not be interested in.
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10:11<SynrG>aaronjlin: or to more precisely answer "reasonably active": $ egrep "^..:.. (<| \*)" irclogs/debian-2013-06* | wc -l
10:11<SynrG>17630
10:12<aaronjlin>:)
10:12<lesbian_green>hi i'm new to linux, can some recommend any sites to make the daily workflow easier?
10:12<SynrG>hundreds of lines per day
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10:13<SynrG>lesbian_green: using debian? define 'daily workflow more precisely ...'
10:13<lesbian_green>no, i use xubuntu and i want to get into programming java
10:13<SynrG>!ubuntuirc lesbian_green
10:13<dpkg>lesbian_green: This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server chat.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://chat.freenode.net/ubuntu
10:14<SynrG>or #xubuntu
10:14<lesbian_green>ah, thx guys
10:14<lesbian_green>have a nice day
10:14<SynrG>you too
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10:18*tgs3 had some other ideas for lesbian_green "daily workflow"
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10:20<babilen>err, no please
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10:24<husker417>hey I'm having problems installing php5-gd. This is what it said http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=K4PnSQPn
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10:29<babilen>husker417: Ask the dotdeb people for support
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10:33<babilen>judd: v php5-gd
10:33<judd>Package: php5-gd on i386 -- squeeze: 5.3.3-7+squeeze14; squeeze-proposed-updates: 5.3.3-7+squeeze15; squeeze-security: 5.3.3-7+squeeze15; wheezy: 5.4.4-14+deb7u2; jessie: 5.4.4-15.1; sid: 5.5.0+dfsg-4
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10:34<babilen>husker417: And you should ask yourself if you *really* want to risk installing the dotdeb packages in the light of ^^^^
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10:34<babilen>dpkg: tell husker417 -about dotdeb
10:36<SynrG>or to put it more bluntly. "don't"
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10:39<SynrG>husker417: squeeze is oldstable. it will lose support in a year-ish. upgrade to wheezy.
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10:39<SynrG>!tell husker417 about squeeze->wheezy
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10:39<aaronjlin>babilen and SynrG: out of curiosity, are you guys developers for debian? And if so, are you guys paid to work on debian part time?
10:39<babilen>yes and no
10:39<SynrG>i am. and i am not.
10:40<babilen>well, dm not dd
10:40<SynrG>on the flip side, i do get paid at work to look after our debian server.
10:40<SynrG>i also get paid at work to research and design and implement foss-based technologies as needed.
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10:41<aaronjlin>ah, very cool.
10:41<SynrG>so they are aware of and generally supportive of my work with debian
10:41<daemonkeeper>SynrG is a DD since forever.
10:41<daemonkeeper>(according to nm.d.o)
10:41<aaronjlin>by the way, sorry, I am having a hard time: what does dd and dm stand for?
10:41<SynrG>increasingly they are getting used to the notion that a) i hang out on irc and b) my irc involvement is of some value to them
10:41<daemonkeeper>Debian Developer, and Debian Maintainer
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10:42<SynrG>aaronjlin: see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianMaintainer
10:44<SynrG>daemonkeeper: haha. too funny. :) well, not since "forever", but since 1997
10:44<SynrG>which is close enough
10:45<daemonkeeper>SynrG: That's forever, everything predating the deployment of NM is imported with a Unix timestamp of 0
10:45<daemonkeeper>https://nm.debian.org/public/person/synrg
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10:46<daemonkeeper>i.e. the time where becoming DD meant "Hey dude, can I haz my @debian.org account? kthxbye"
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10:46<SynrG>well, or at least "give me your phone# and i'll phone you and ask you a couple of questions. if it's really you, i'll sign your key. ;)"
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10:47<daemonkeeper>These days you need to meet in person :p
10:48<daemonkeeper>You know, apart of passing NM.
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11:04<attacker>quit
11:04<daemonkeeper> /
11:04<dvs>you cant!
11:05<attacker>need some help
11:05<dvs>quitting?
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11:05<attacker>nope i'm new to IRC i'm using Smuxi
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11:06<attacker>but i have another account registered how can i log in with that
11:06<blast007>!ircprimer
11:06<dpkg>"A Short IRC Primer": http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/ircprimer.html . See also "The IRC Prelude": http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/new2irc.html
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11:07<babilen>attacker: Please also note that this is the technical support channel for Debian (http://www.debian.org) and not IRC support. Feel free to ask if you have questions with your Debian installation or to join us in #debian-offtopic for general chit-chat.
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11:08<attacker>thanks
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11:08<aryeh>anybody ever had an issue with ath9k insta-crashing crunchbang on boot up?
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11:09<sney>!crunchbang
11:09<dpkg>CrunchBang Linux is a Live CD distribution originally based on <Ubuntu>, now based on Debian as of version 10, featuring the <Openbox> window manager. It is not supported in #debian. http://www.crunchbang.org/ #crunchbang on irc.freenode.net. See <based on debian>.
11:09<aryeh>ah, thank you
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11:27<Guest1179>hey
11:27<Guest1179>I am instlaling on a amd64 machine
11:27<Guest1179>why would I want to use the multi-arch cd rather than the amd64 cd?
11:28<Guest1179>not sure I understand what it does; presumably I could enable multiarch later?
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11:30<babilen>Guest1179: the "multi-arch" CD (note the "-") simply allows you to install i386 and amd64. That "multi-arch" has nothing to do with the dpkg/apt feature called "multiarch" that allows you to install packages from different architectures at the same time.
11:31<babilen>Guest1179: Apparently somebody somewhere thought that Debian and its images weren't complicated enough already and thought it is a good idea to use yet another ambigious term
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11:37<Guest1179>babilen, ahhhhhhh. So the image just installs one or the other, the only sense it is multi is that it *can* install either?
11:37<babilen>exactly
11:37<Guest1179>Thanks. Can't believe someone thought it was a good idea to give it the same name especially when both are new in wheezy
11:38<SynrG>babilen: hence our updates to:
11:38<SynrG>!multi-arch installer
11:38<dpkg>The multi-arch installer contains binary packages for both i386 and amd64, and architecture is chosen at install time. This does not automatically enable <multiarch>. See http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer
11:38<babilen>Guest1179: http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/HOWTO is, naturally, still possible. But the "multi-arch" for the images simply means "can be used to install a i386 or amd64 system"
11:38<SynrG>(in case you didn't remember those / weren't here)
11:38<babilen>SynrG: Oh, wonderful.
11:38<babilen>I haven't seen that. Great!
11:39<SynrG>and reverse xreffed from multiarch factoid
11:39<Guest1179>thanks guys, have a good day
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11:39<SynrG>(albeit, a bit ambiguously, hmm)
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11:42<TobiX>Wasn't the multi-arch CD also available in squeeze?
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11:43<sney>yes
11:43<SynrG>TobiX: yes.
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11:59<cpbills>good gravy there are a lot of channels on irc.debian.org
12:00<cpbills>i was trying to find an off-topic channel... i wanna pick people's brains about ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu, because i think it's ridiculous to have a niche distro for every desktop environment, instead of simply providing an install-time option for DE of choice... i'm hoping if i understand it a little better, it won't irk me so much.
12:01<babilen>cpbills: You can try #debian-offtopic -- but yeah, I agree .. it makes no sense at all.
12:01<babilen>s/at all//
12:01<cpbills>:D
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12:03<ardex>how do I get the window ID to control the screensaver?
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12:06<ardex>or rather, how do I find the window ID to set the screensaver control?
12:07<ardex>example: xdg-screensaver suspend 0x1c00007
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12:14<ardex>how find window ID? not a stupid question
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12:16<daemonkeeper>The X window ID?
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12:22<kriz1>pl
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12:23<kriz1>?
12:23<ardex>daemonkeeper: I assume yes
12:24<ardex>see: http://us.generation-nt.com/answer/bug-610155-xdg-utils-fails-disable-gnome-screensaver-help-204961961.html
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12:25<cae>ardex: xwininfo
12:26<ardex>To simplify, I'm not using a desktop environment. Just xdgok thanks very much. fine business.
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12:29<mj_>hi all
12:29-!-erossi_ [~enrico@81-174-48-55.v4.ngi.it] has joined #debian
12:29<mj_>did someone upgraded to jeesie ?
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12:30<retrospectacus>mj_: not me, but I'm sure someone did... check #debian-next
12:30<mj_>hm
12:30<mj_>thx
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12:35<nightdrever>Does compiz work well on ubuntu 12.04 with all the effects?
12:35<cae>nightdrever: This is #debian.
12:35<nightdrever>oh sorry
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12:45<PigOnTheWings>yo
12:45<retrospectacus>oink
12:46<PigOnTheWings>:)
12:46<PigOnTheWings>I am trying to connect with ssh on remote machine and start firefox
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12:46<PigOnTheWings>and when i connect
12:46<PigOnTheWings>i get
12:46<PigOnTheWings>Error: no display specified
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12:47<retrospectacus>you need to be connecting *from* a terminal which has a display
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12:48<PigOnTheWings>u mean they need to have display
12:48<PigOnTheWings>attached
12:48<PigOnTheWings>s;
12:48<PigOnTheWings>;s
12:48<PigOnTheWings>oink.
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12:49<retrospectacus>type echo $DISPLAY - should say e.g. :0.0 - then type ssh -X remote - then type firefox
12:49<PigOnTheWings>when I type echo $DISPLAY it returns empt
12:49<PigOnTheWings>y
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12:50<retrospectacus>fix that
12:50<PigOnTheWings>how :D
12:50<retrospectacus>well how did you start that terminal?
12:51<PigOnTheWings>aham
12:51<PigOnTheWings>it returns
12:51<PigOnTheWings>smht
12:51<PigOnTheWings>sec
12:51<retrospectacus>PigOnTheWings: don't do that
12:51<PigOnTheWings>retrospectacus, u mean talking in multiply lines?
12:52<retrospectacus>yes, and saying nonsense
12:52<PigOnTheWings>retrospectacus, mi skuzi :)
12:52<retrospectacus>the terminal should be started "through the DM" i.e. a menu or desktop shortcut, and you cannot e.g be root or su to another user
12:53<PigOnTheWings>aware of that
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12:54<retrospectacus>that's all there is to it
12:54<PigOnTheWings>when I echo display I get lucy.192.168.1.9:0.0
12:54<PigOnTheWings> and when i try firefox -display lucy.192.168.1.9:0.0
12:54<PigOnTheWings> it returns Error: no display specified
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12:55<retrospectacus>http://paste.debian.net - please show us the entire content of your terminal
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12:57<PigOnTheWings>http://pastebin.com/rQZ5Gfy7
12:58<retrospectacus>:|
12:58<retrospectacus>!pastebin.com
12:58<dpkg>pastebin.com mangles input, takes forever to load, often makes us enter a CAPTCHA to see your paste and fills the screen with ads. Please use a different site, like http://paste.debian.net/
12:58<retrospectacus>I don't see ssh there
12:58<PigOnTheWings>it was above
12:59<PigOnTheWings>ok let me do it again
13:01<PigOnTheWings>http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Y1Zz09Cn
13:01<PigOnTheWings>:D
13:02<retrospectacus>see, you started out as root, you numbskull
13:02<retrospectacus>just like I said
13:02<PigOnTheWings>I dont have bettys pass
13:02<retrospectacus>you can set it, or install your user's key
13:03<PigOnTheWings>ok let me change betty pass
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13:03<retrospectacus>you cannot be root on either machine, this is alllll wrong
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13:04<PigOnTheWings>I got pass and still returns Error: no display specified
13:04<Apollo>retrospectacus: you can just export the correct display value if you used su
13:04<retrospectacus>PigOnTheWings: show it again
13:04<PigOnTheWings>LOLZ
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13:05<retrospectacus>PigOnTheWings: the most important thing is to open the *very first terminal* as normal user, then run "ssh -X betty@192.168.1.9"
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13:06<PigOnTheWings>http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=TAWCwJ9C
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13:07<retrospectacus>PigOnTheWings: read what I just said
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13:07<PigOnTheWings>ok, will try it now, quiting all and starting all over
13:07<brent>#ramaze
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13:09<PigOnTheWings>same ;/
13:10<retrospectacus>I should not have to ask for a paste again...
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13:11<pedrinho>iae
13:12<PigOnTheWings>okey my fault :D
13:12<PigOnTheWings>got this done
13:12<retrospectacus>whose else fault could it be...
13:12<PigOnTheWings>urs :*
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13:12<retrospectacus>ha
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13:20<P4C0>Hello, I'm upgrading from lenny to squeeze, and I'm on grub-pc, it says: The following Linux command line was extracted from /etc/default/grub or the `kopt' parameter [..] Verify that it is correct, but it is empty... should I accept that or something wrong happened?
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13:41<retrospectacus>P4C0: got that lenny kernel working eh
13:41<retrospectacus>P4C0: kopt= is probably fine
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13:41<P4C0>retrospectacus: yes ;)
13:42<P4C0>retrospectacus: on squeeze now... but just noticed that my shell is wrong :(
13:42<P4C0>probably I shouldn't had switched to dash...
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14:07<mj_>:)
14:08<mj_>may i apt-get remove gdm3 && apt-get install lightdm ? do i need to change something after so lightdm will start automaticly ?
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14:19<gnugr>mj_;you can have'em both and on startup choose your default or "dpkg-reconfigure gdm"
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14:21<mj_>gnugr, already did it :) thx
14:21<mj_>i hope the pc willn fall in sleep mode with lightdm
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14:21<mj_>the problem is - if it falls in sleep mode, it dont come back no more - screen is not switching on :(
14:22<mj_>so i need to hard reset it
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15:19<tgs3>how to add gcc to a debian that is purely offline (just USB hard drive that I can attach to it)? it was installed from net install
15:19<tgs3>apt-cdrom does not recognize the 7.1.0-1-CD.iso (mounted -o loop) maybe because it was installed from 7.0.0 orgianlly
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15:20<tgs3>using deb copy:///media/cdrom/ does not have gpg signed manifests to crypto verify correctness of .deb's
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15:21<mshuler>tgs3: 'apt-get -d install build-essential' on another machine, then copy the debs under /var/cache/apt/archives/ to your usb drive - transfer drive to offine machine and install the debs
15:21<mshuler>-d is download only
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15:22<retrospectacus>check out apt-zip
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15:22<mshuler>oh nice, retrospectacus :)
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15:30<tgs3>mshuler: but there I also have to manually verify checksums of .debs ?
15:31<tgs3>imo deb's security is a bit not optimally designed.
15:31<tgs3>1) why CDroms do not have the manifest needed for secure-apt
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15:31<tgs3>2) why don't we simply provide .deb + .deb.sig instead of the separate manifest
15:31<P4C0>does anyone knows if the squid package that comes with squeeze has icap support enabled?
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15:40<P4C0>is it possible to get the minimal install or net install cd of debian squeeze? this http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/ only has wheezy
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15:44<herco>done
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16:07<gnugr>P4C0: http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/debian-installer/
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16:11<P4C0>gnugr: thanks
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17:06<thatguychuck>When I use thunar to manage files on my android phone, I get blocked from umounting by the process gvfsd-tra, which I'm assuming is trash. I can kill the process and umount, but I would like to know if there is a better way.
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17:12<NickUK>Hi, anyone any good with pptpd?
17:12<NickUK>I've a few issues with the MTU resetting itself to 1240 instead of 1420
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19:23<barballs_>hi all
19:23*barballs_ in the house
19:24<barballs_>how does one go about disabling ports
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19:24<barballs_>specifically hi range port numbers 1000+ etc
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19:25<daemonkeeper>disable?!
19:25<barballs_>or close
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19:25<barballs_>what ever the apropriate terminology is
19:25<daemonkeeper>There is nothing to disable or close if nothing is listening.
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19:27<barballs_>i am running iftop and there is a tonne of incomming requests to all sorts of ports in the high ranges
19:27<daemonkeeper>netstat -lnp shows listening ports?
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19:29<barballs_>i am assuming I-node is the port number?
19:29<daemonkeeper>No
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19:30<daemonkeeper>These are Unix Domain sockets, that's not what you're interested in
19:30<barballs_>ah
19:30<barballs_>i am looking at the list above?
19:31<daemonkeeper>Yes
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19:31<barballs_>this one is wierd: ":::56922"
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19:32<barballs_>Its running tcp6
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19:32<barballs_>that related to IP v6?
19:34<barballs_>when the foreign Address is 0.0.0.0:*
19:34<barballs_>i assume that means there is no connection?
19:35<daemonkeeper>It means it listening for all incoming connection on that port.
19:36<barballs_>and is that the same as :::*?
19:36<daemonkeeper>In IPv6 speak yes.
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19:39<Eryn_1983_FL>hey peeps whats the best way to get my local desktop to proxy its traffic to my proxy server?
19:40<Eryn_1983_FL>i am trying to find the right iptables syntax but i am not seeing it.
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19:40<barballs_>thanks for that daemonkeeper :)
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19:45<Eryn_1983_FL>i figured it out peeps
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20:15<mdik>Eryn_1983_FL: how is it done?
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20:36<nardev>is there anyway to find older google chrome which is installable on squeeze?
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20:56<peter1138>hmm, is "discover" (and its libs) actually needed on a squeeze or wheezy system?
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20:57<SamB>Priority: optional
20:58<SamB>peter1138: so it doesn't look like it
20:58<peter1138>Package-wise, indeed. It's installed by default, but I thought it was superseded by udev and the like.
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21:00<ahmed>hiii
21:04<peter1138>and... its init script is in /usr/share/discover, and not put in /etc/init.d. weird :p
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21:35<shoukath>hi
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22:02<habstinat>I made a WordPress blog and everything was all fine and dandy at <http://nop.mx/blog>, but then I decided I wanted to move everything to <http://nop.mx> and move the old stuff at <http://nop.mx> to <http://nop.mx/oldstuff>. I managed to completely screw everything up in the process, and now nothing works. Can anyone in this channel pleas help me with this issue? Pastebins in the next message...
22:03<habstinat>apache2.conf (sheild your eyes): <http://sprunge.us/VYRh>; /etc/wordpress/config-default.php: <http://sprunge.us/VYRh>
22:04<habstinat>Everything should be installed at /usr/share/wordpress/. Here's an ls -l: <http://sprunge.us/ZcBb>
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22:08<barballs_>habstinat is the content of the blog still in the DB?
22:09<barballs_>when you talk about new stuff and old stuff what do mean?
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22:09<barballs_>are you just moing your old /blog to /oldstuff
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22:10<barballs_>and having an entirely new site at domain root?
22:10<habstinat>barballs_: I used to host static content (in /var/www/) at <http://nop.mx/>, but now I don't really care about that and I want to move it to /oldstuff. The blog was always at /blog, and now I want to move it to /.
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22:10<habstinat>barballs_: I believe that the blog content is in the DB, I know the DB name is "vision"
22:11<barballs_>wordpress is installed in the/blog right?
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22:12<barballs_>you need to get into wp-admin/ and change the site name to the root. you can do this in the wp_settings table in the database if you have lost access to your wp-admin part
22:12<habstinat>barballs_: It used to work, but now it isn't for some reason (see <http://nop.mx/blog/>). Wordpress is at /usr/share/wordpress/, I tried to make Apache use an alias for that but it didn't really work.
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22:13<barballs_>site is working
22:13<barballs_>that white screen is a WP issues
22:14<blast007>super cache plugin installed?
22:14<barballs_>it's caused by wp-site address is not = to actual blog location
22:14<habstinat>blast007: No, the only plugin was Jetpack
22:14<barballs_>heh blast007
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22:14*blast007 recalls "fun" with that super cache plugin
22:14<blast007>but yeah, probably what barballs_ said
22:14<barballs_>indeed
22:15<habstinat>barballs_: I changed /etc/wordpress/config-default.php to be <http://sprunge.us/AKEG>, but it still isn't working
22:15<barballs_>http://wordpress.org/support/topic/white-screen-of-death-7\
22:15<habstinat>barballs_: When I go to <http://nop.mx/wp-admin> I can log in, but I get "ERROR: The themes directory is either empty or doesn’t exist. Please check your installation.
22:15<barballs_>well for one it should not be called config-default.php
22:16<barballs_>that file should be called wp-config.php
22:16<barballs_>unless you have customised your install
22:17<barballs_>erm
22:17<barballs_>you will what to change your db password pronto :)
22:17<barballs_>and your secret key :)
22:17<barballs_>not goo things to make public
22:18<habstinat>barballs_: Yea... Can I just change them in the file and that's it?
22:18<barballs_>are there plugins, themes, uploads folders in this directory: /var/lib/wordpress/wp-content/?
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22:19<barballs_>for changing PW you will need to do that in your database. then copy the new pass into your config
22:19<barballs_>what version of WP are you using?
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22:19<habstinat>barballs_: OK, here's the deal with that directory. For some reason, it seems to be an exact copy of /usr/share/wordpress/, but I have no idea why.
22:19<barballs_>is it link?
22:20<habstinat>barballs_: 3.5.1+dfsg-2
22:20<barballs_>ok
22:20<habstinat>barballs_: No, it's not a symbolic link, just a copy
22:20<barballs_>then that's one part of your problem
22:20<habstinat>barballs_: I'm not sure if it's an exact copy or if one or two files are different
22:20<habstinat>I'm also not sure how it got copied
22:21<barballs_>hmmmm.. you are not making it easy on me are you? :)
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22:21<habstinat>barballs_: I'll use diff -arq folder1 folder2 to compare; hold on
22:22<habstinat>barballs_: <http://sprunge.us/GRUZ> So /usr/share/wordpress/ seems superior.
22:23<barballs_>ok lets go back to basics here for a second
22:24<barballs_>your website has two wp installs
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22:24<barballs_>before you started this process was that also the case?
22:24<habstinat>barballs_: I have only ever installed Wordpress using the package manager.
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22:24<habstinat>barballs_: I'm pretty sure this was the case:
22:25<barballs_>and you only installed it once?
22:25<habstinat>barballs_: Everything was really in /usr/share/wordpress/, but lots of individual files in /usr/share/wordpress/wp-content were symlinked to /var/lib/wordpress/wp-content/.
22:26<habstinat>barballs_: I did a purge and reinstall once, but it said that config files were kept.
22:26<barballs_>ok
22:26<habstinat>I'm pretty sure that's the default Debian config
22:26<barballs_>because what is happening now is both site root and blog are both showing as wordpress
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22:26<habstinat>barballs_: Oh, wait hold on
22:27<barballs_>whether it's the same install or not i can not tell
22:27<barballs_>holding
22:27<habstinat>barballs_: I did a static copy of /usr/share/wordpress/ to /var/www/ just to see if that would do anything about thirty minutes ago
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22:27<habstinat>barballs_: I know it was dumb, I'll delete it now
22:28<barballs_>make sure not to get rid of your old stuff :)
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22:28<habstinat>barballs_: Yup, done. I also have a static copy at <http://nop.mx/wordpress> (/var/www/wordpress) that is the same but I'll leave there for now
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22:30<habstinat>barballs_: Oh wait, I guess I also made a static copy to /var/www/blog/ at about the same time; deleted now
22:30<barballs_>ok so webaddress http://nop.mx/ points to /var/www?
22:30<barballs_>or where exactly?
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22:31<habstinat>barballs_: It might not now actually, but it did. I think according to my apache2.conf now it should: <http://sprunge.us/ILNG>
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22:32<barballs_>ok
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22:33<barballs_>your conf has 3 different instances of wordpress
22:33<barballs_>are you running multiple sites?
22:33<barballs_>or just the one?
22:33<habstinat>barballs_: No, just one (unfortunately).
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22:33<barballs_>;)
22:34<barballs_>ok which directory is the wordpress that you use?
22:34<habstinat>barballs_: Let's go with /usr/share/wordpress/.
22:34<barballs_>lol ok.
22:35<barballs_>and in there that has everyting. wp-content/themes/* wp-content/uploads/* etc?
22:35<habstinat>barballs_: Hold on, checking
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22:36<habstinat>barballs_: Er, my theme was somehow a symbolic link to itself in there
22:36<habstinat>barballs_: I'll just copy a backup of it over there
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22:38<barballs_>oh god
22:38<barballs_>well that's why you are getting a warning within wp-admin :)
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22:39<habstinat>barballs_: OK, so now all the themes are there, all the uploads are there, and everything is recursively owned by www-data
22:39<barballs_>ok
22:40<barballs_>and any of those simlinks to anywhere else?
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22:41<habstinat>barballs_: /usr/share/wordpress/wp-content/blogs.dir/ is a symlink to /var/lib/wordpress/wp-content/blogs.dir, but there doesn't seem to be anything in there anyways
22:41<barballs_>go ahead and restart your apache "sudo service apache2 restart" or "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart"
22:42<barballs_>that's wierd that you have a file like that within your wp-content folder
22:42<barballs_>after the reastart check your wp-admin
22:43<barballs_>are you still getting the no theme error?
22:43<habstinat>barballs_: Wait, before I do that I'd like to go over symbolic links one more time
22:44<habstinat>Here is a list of them in /usr/share/wordpress/:
22:44<habstinat>barballs_: <http://sprunge.us/iWPJ>
22:45<habstinat>barballs_: wp-content.old is a backup I made earlier today. I'm working on fixing the Jetpack symlink now.
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22:46<barballs_>i don't get all these simlinks
22:47<barballs_>maybe someone more savy could explain. I know people link them for security but this seems a little extreme to me.
22:48<habstinat>barballs_: OK, jetpack is fixed so I think that's all we need to do with symlinks, now I'll try your other directions
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22:50<habstinat>barballs_: I'm still getting this <http://i.imgur.com/fcuH7aN.png>
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22:52<habstinat>barballs_: Even after restarting apache :(
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22:53<barballs_>do your posts show up?
22:53<barballs_>thech your settings
22:54<barballs_>what is the site URL?
22:54<barballs_>*check your settings menu even
22:54<habstinat>barballs_: Wait, huh, it works now, but with a different theme
22:54<habstinat>barballs_: <http://nop.mx>
22:54<habstinat>barballs_: I think I clicked "theme" on the sidebar and it automatically changed me to the default theme
22:55<habstinat>barballs_: I'll try to see about the theme directory, hold on...
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22:56<habstinat>barballs_: So it seems to work now, but none of my plugins or themes is installed
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22:58<habstinat>barballs_: Here is a fancy directory tree of /usr/share/wordpress/ if it helps <http://sprunge.us/DdUM>
22:59<habstinat>I'm really not sure why the theme or plugin isn't working
22:59<habstinat>I made some heavy modifications to the theme, so reinstalling would really be a pain
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23:01<habstinat>barballs_: Wait, this is very odd
23:01<habstinat>barballs_: I was trying to install the Jetpack plugin by uploading jetpack.zip to Wordpress via the web interface but I got this while installing:
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23:02<jotasilva>buenas noches.. necesito ayuda en lo referente a que empathy las alertas no suenan
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23:02<habstinat>barballs_: "Unpacking the package… | Installing the plugin… | Could not create directory. /var/lib/wordpress/wp-content//plugins/jetpack/ | Plugin install failed."
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23:02<habstinat>barballs_: Odd that it uses /var/lib/wordpress/
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23:05<habstinat>barballs_: Well, I kind of fixed it by just copying everything to /var/lib/wordpress (I know it was bad form, but I was kind of desperate)
23:05<habstinat>barballs_: Thank you so much for your help. How can I possibly repay you for this? I don't want to be one of those IRC takers who just takes and then /parts
23:06<sney>the best way to give back is to stick around and help others.
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23:16<barballs_>sorry was away there
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23:18<barballs_>What sney said habstinat :) I'm only new to linux myself (sorta) and have been in this channel since last weekend trying to get my install to work. and it was the folks here answering my questions which made me stick with it :)
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23:20<barballs_>plus you, habstinat, were the first person i was *sorta* able to help ^^
23:22<habstinat>OK, advice taken. I've subscribed to the debian-user ML and I'll idle here for a while and pounce when I can :P
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23:22<barballs_>luls
23:22<barballs_>that was my other account
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23:23*barballs mine
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23:25<barballs>brb ish
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23:29<nitestryker>lolish
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23:42<apm1>ok so i have a problem on squeeze
23:43<apm1>X hangs when i try to change the wallpaper on gnome
23:43<apm1>i can switch to the ttys
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23:45<apm1>from a lil googling i found that it was a bug in the intel gpu drivers
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23:46<apm1> but reading the progress in debian BTS has the last entry that its an upstream issue that will not be fixed by debian
23:46<apm1>makes no sense to me
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