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00:03<P4C0>hello
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00:04<P4C0>I know this is wrong, but is it possible to open a .deb with ar, modify it and rebuild the .deb?
00:05<trippeh>P4C0: This worked for me; http://ailoo.net/2009/06/repack-a-deb-archive-with-dpkg-deb/
00:06<P4C0>thanks trippeh
00:06<P4C0>also is this updated or is there a new one: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/index.en.html ??
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00:23<TinyPants>Anybody have a quick moment to shoot me an easy link? (...for you, I assume. :-) )
00:23<TinyPants>I'm trying to find a first-timer's guide to using LUKS encryption.
00:23<TinyPants>...on the first bootable partition.
00:24<TinyPants>AKA the first install.
00:24<TinyPants>I found the Arch wiki.
00:24<TinyPants>Very helpful.
00:24<TinyPants>I wuz just curious if there were a step-by-step tutorial somewhere.
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02:15<P4C0>quit
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02:55<TinyPants>:...clears thoat:
02:55<TinyPants>Anyone else?
02:55<TinyPants>"(10:23:22 PM) Tiny Pants: Anybody have a quick moment to shoot me an easy link? (...for you, I assume. :-) )
02:55<TinyPants>(10:23:39 PM) Tiny Pants: I'm trying to find a first-timer's guide to using LUKS encryption.
02:55<TinyPants>(10:23:48 PM) Tiny Pants: ...on the first bootable partition.
02:55<TinyPants>(10:23:51 PM) Tiny Pants: AKA the first install.
02:55<TinyPants>(10:23:57 PM) Tiny Pants: I found the Arch wiki.
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02:58<ectospasm>whoops
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03:09<Atlas>Hi
03:09<Atlas>i have a little problem on debian
03:09<ectospasm>!ask
03:09<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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03:09<Guest1261>when i do "su" , after taping my password i have :
03:09<Guest1261>bash: A: command not found
03:09<Guest1261>bash: B: command not found
03:09<Guest1261>bash: B: command not found
03:09<Guest1261>bash: A: command not found
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03:10<Atlas_>sorry for flooding
03:11<ectospasm>Atlas_: do you have 'A' and 'B' somewhere in your bash startup files (for root, or whatever user you're su'ing to)?
03:11<Atlas_>how can i find that ?
03:11<Atlas_>where*
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03:12<ectospasm>Atlas_: check .bashrc, /etc/profile, /etc/bash* (check the bash man page, as this list is not exhaustive)
03:12<nardev>can anyone suggest me list of important multimedia packages from deb-multimedia?
03:13<peter1138>nardev:
03:13<nardev>just to be able to play properly mkv,avi,mp4 etc..
03:13<ectospasm>dpkg, tell nardev -about debian-multimedia
03:13<nardev>ectospasm, :D ok it's not official
03:13<nardev>is that what you want to tell me ?
03:14<ectospasm>nardev: not only that, don't expect support in #debian for packages acquired from d-m
03:14<ectospasm>nardev: many of the codecs you seek can be found in the non-free repository
03:14<Atlas_>i didnt find A and B anywhere
03:14<nardev>ectospasm, i'm sure everyone here faced this question, that is why i asked. Ok. anyway.
03:15<jm_>how do you use su?
03:15<Atlas_>aah :D
03:15<Atlas_>thank you
03:16<nardev>jm_, feel free to type man su
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03:18<jm_>nardev: the point was to find out exact su command Atlas_ is using ...
03:19<nardev>ah
03:19<nardev>ok
03:19<nardev>sorry
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03:59<computer>anyone speak Brazilian Portuguese here?
04:00<ectospasm>!pt
04:00<dpkg>Por favor use #debian-pt para ajuda em portugues ou #debian-br para ajuda em portugues do brasil. ( /join #debian-pt )
04:00<computer>thanks
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04:00<computer>no one in that channel! :(
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04:00<ectospasm>sorry, that's all I got
04:01<computer>:(
04:01<computer>thanks for trying
04:02<ectospasm>computer: your English seems perfectly fine to me
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04:02<ectospasm>granted, I have only a very small sample of what you know
04:02<computer>i need something translated
04:02<ectospasm>ah
04:02<computer>a speech of mine
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04:03<ectospasm>and I assume google translate will not suffice
04:03<computer>correct
04:03<computer>its about the revolution happening now at brazil
04:04<ectospasm>has the crackdown started?
04:04<ectospasm>I wonder how that will affect the World Cup next year
04:04<ectospasm>...or the Olympics in three
04:04<computer>have you not heard of the nation wide mass protest of the people there?
04:04<ectospasm>Yes
04:05<ectospasm>I hadn't heard (yet) that the Brazilian government has begun major suppression operations, though
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04:05<ectospasm>...and now this is getting OT
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04:06<computer>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uF-3j-Lt_BM
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04:08<ritsuka>Hi there, I was wondering you could please help me choose the correct way to use this command. I'm configuring my NVIDIA GPU to use the nvidia-glx package using what is said on: http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers . But as you need to configure the xorg conf file manually it says to use this command: # echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' >
04:08<ritsuka>/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf . Could someone please clarify to me what I need to substitute the "My GPU" section with? Thank you so much in advance to any replies.
04:08<ritsuka>(Also, sorry for the wall of text)
04:08<computer>lots of riots have manifested as now! its chaos over there
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04:10<computer>youtube: brazil riots
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04:15<dtw>ritsuka, it's just an identifier. You can have anything you want there.
04:15<ectospasm>!ot
04:15<dpkg>#debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day.
04:15<gnugr>ritsuka:you can run the command as it is, no need to replace anything
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04:17<ritsuka>dtw, gnugr: Thank you for your replies! So the command as is works? No need to replace any identifiers?
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04:18<dtw>ritsuka, yes, it should work as is.
04:18<gnugr>dpkg: tell ritsuka -about nvidia dkms
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04:19<ritsuka>Thank you so much!
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05:11<txomon|fon>I am trying to track my unstable and experimental branches automatically, but I don't get the way to pin experimental to automatically get upgraded to latest version
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05:12<txomon|fon>or at least tracking unstable automatically
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05:14<vincent_c>txomon|fon: man apt_preferences
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05:14<txomon|fon>yes that is what I am using
05:14<vincent_c>in short, create a file named /etc/apt/preferences with the syntax described in that man page
05:14<Stummi>txomon|fon, this are my preferences: http://sprunge.us/eSYO
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05:15<Stummi>installs packages automatically from testing but tracks them from unstable or experimental if i install them from there
05:15<Maulkin>Stummi: That's really not supported here I'm afraid.
05:15<Maulkin>!experimental
05:15<dpkg>experimental is the bleeding edge of Debian Development. Packages here have been deemed unfit/DANGEROUS/untrustworthy/etc for release by the maintainer responsible for them. DO NOT INSTALL PACKAGES FROM EXPERIMENTAL WITHOUT KNOWING EXACTLY WHY AND WHAT YOU ARE DOING. #debian does _not_ support experimental. For an actual description, see section 4.6.4.3 of the Developer's Reference. http://packages.debian.org/experimental/
05:16<Stummi>Maulkin, so iam not allowed to help out someone with a question according this?
05:16<dcorking>I've a problem getting consistent naming of partitions in squeeze guest running on qemu http://paste.lisp.org/+2YBZ ...
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05:16<txomon|fon>I want to install from unstable automatically and if available, from experimental too
05:16<dcorking>do you think I have a squeeze (guest) problem, or should I contact my virtual server provider for help with the host?
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05:16<Stummi>txomon|fon, wait. You want all your packages automatically installed from unstable/experimental if available?
05:17<Stummi>i wouldn't recommend this since most packages there a broken often
05:17<txomon|fon>Stummi: yes, I am using my own archive, and I am developing
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05:17<txomon|fon>the idea is to have all the ones from my archive like so
05:17<txomon|fon>those are the only unstable/experimental that will be configured
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05:18<Stummi>then i think you want a pin-priority between 990 and 1000
05:19<Maulkin>Stummi: At least take it to #debian-next or somewhere...
05:19<txomon|fon>Maulkin: I am using wheezy
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05:19<ronny>hi
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05:20<Maulkin>txomon|fon: No you're not, if you have stuff installed from sid and experimental
05:20<ronny>how do i configure the prefered distribution again ?
05:20<Maulkin>Stummi: Apologies too, my original comment was meant to be directed at txomon|fon
05:20<dcorking>summarizing my paste, mount thinks root is on /dev/hda1, but /proc/mounts thinks it is on /dev/hda3 , but so is /boot ... so I am terrified to reboot the guest :)
05:20<Maulkin>ronny: What did you install?
05:21<ronny>Maulkin: stable
05:22<ronny>but i like to drop in some packages from testing/unstable
05:22<Maulkin>dcorking: Basically, make sure that /etc/fstab matches what you want it to be, and you should be fine
05:22<Maulkin>ronny: Then head over to #debian-next :)
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05:22<Maulkin>ronny: As a clue though, you may want to look at backports first, and then apt-pinning
05:23<txomon|fon>Maulkin: I am DEVELOPING and I am in wheezy, with my own archives in unstable / experimental
05:23<txomon|fon>so yes, I am using wheezy
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05:24<Maulkin>txomon|fon: That really doesn't make much sense. Do you have your packages in the Debian archive, or are you running private repositories, or what?
05:24<txomon|fon>private repo
05:24<ronny>Maulkin: what i would like to do is configure apt to prefer the stabel studd to anything i didnt explicitly pin to something else
05:24<Maulkin>txomon|fon: So, what do you mean by unstable/experimental then?
05:24<ronny>Maulkin: someone here explained there is a setting in apt.conf
05:24<ronny>i dont recall
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05:24<txomon|fon>Maulkin: how I named my branches
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05:25<Maulkin>txomon|fon: If you control what's in your repositories, just upload your own packages to there with a higher version each time, and they'll be picked up. No need to pin.
05:26<txomon|fon>Maulkin: but experimental branch (which is how I named it) is not always getting into a higher version
05:26<Maulkin>ronny: Yeah, that's apt pinning (google is your friend). However, it means you're not running stable anymore, so don't get things like support here, security updates etc. Also, using backports will lead to a more stable system.
05:26<txomon|fon>I have integrated a CI system on that branch, which generates the package automagically on each commit
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05:27<Maulkin>txomon|fon: You need to bump the version number for apt to notice.
05:27<ronny>Maulkin: pinning is in preferences, not in apt.conf
05:27<txomon|fon>Ok, I will use the 0.1-20130627-1 format then
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05:28<chaos>ectospasm: how do i figure out what's broken: hdd/cable/controller if pvdisplay says my nas is broken but extended smartctl on the disks and the lvm says everything ran flawlessly?
05:28<ectospasm>!ask
05:28<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
05:29<chaos>it has nothing to do with the version of debian
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05:29<ectospasm>chaos: I meant, why did you ask me?
05:29<chaos>cos you summoned me with !ot
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05:31<ectospasm>chaos: don't pick a common dictionary word as your nick, then
05:32<chaos>it isn't
05:33<ectospasm>http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/chaos
05:34<chaos>doesn't say common anywhere
05:34<radubogdan>:)
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05:35<dcorking>oh - I have mounted it twice
05:36<chaos>dcorking: try mount --bind :)
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05:37<dcorking>thanks chaos - will take a look -
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05:38<txomon|fon>Maulkin Stummi I discovered re-re-reading the apt_preferences that I can pin for Label: :D
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05:49<john>hi
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05:53<dcorking>isn't mount --bind intended to purposely mount the same filesystem at 2 mount points? Instead I want to undo that situation. Can mount --bind help with that too?
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05:57<funkyHat>dcorking: use umount /path/to/unmount ?
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06:06<nextime>hello all, Trying to install nagios3 on a clean just installed sid:
06:06<nextime>Setting up nagios3-cgi (3.4.1-4) ...
06:06<nextime>D000002: fork/exec /var/lib/dpkg/info/nagios3-cgi.postinst ( configure )
06:06<nextime>dpkg: error processing nagios3-cgi (--install):
06:06<nextime> subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 10
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06:06<dpkg>nextime: That isn't an error, post the whole output to a pastebin (/msg dpkg pastebin).
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06:06<nextime>sorry for the flood ( just 4 lines! )
06:07<nextime>seems that no bug are opened about this, any idea?
06:07<babilen>dpkg: tell nextime -about bat
06:07<babilen>nextime: And testing/unstable is supported in #debian-next and not here in #debian (cf. /topic) -- Thanks!
06:07<nextime>right, thanks
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06:17<mrmumbles>hi
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06:53<dcorking>funkyHat - yes umount was part of the solution - the bigger problem was figuring out the correct device names to remount. All is hunky dory now http://paste.lisp.org/+2YBZ/4
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07:03<ronny>Maulkin: what does the {ab} behind a package name mean when aptitude lists it for install?
07:03<ronny>whops
07:03<ronny>i didnt mean to direct it that way
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07:06<ectospasm>ronny: 'a' is automatic, and I can't remember what 'b' means
07:07<jm_>cw::fragf(_("'b': some of the package's dependencies are violated by the proposed changes."))));
07:07<jm_>is what code has
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07:34<Cheetah-Bunny>hi ist es möglich mit einem lan netzwerkanschluss eine dhcp konfiguration zu gewiesen zu bekommen um diesen dann in seinem eigenen DHCP server neu zuweisen zu können? also über eine schnittstelle in meinem fall eth0
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07:34<stderr>!de
07:34<dpkg>Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de).
07:34<Cheetah-Bunny>danke
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07:39<cptcel23>ikonia_, any idea how to check if i'm running nvidia drivers now?
07:39<mateyo>hey
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07:42<peter1138>hmm, is there any tool that'll maximize a window across all monitors?
07:42<jm_>!which video driver
07:42<dpkg>To show the video driver used by your X server «egrep 'Load.*mod.*driv|UnloadModule' /var/log/Xorg.0.log». Also ask me about <fglrx>, <nvidia>, <which driver>, <nodriver>, <judd-hardware>.
07:42<jm_>cptcel23 ^^^^^
07:43<cptcel23>thanks jm_
07:43<cptcel23>oh well, i thought it worked for a moment there, never mind
07:44<cptcel23>well, when following the instructions for video driver installation, it said to run X -configure on a root shell in recovery mode, that didn't work - it failed with can't create lockfile
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07:45<jm_>which instructions said that?
07:45<cptcel23>https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto
07:45<jm_>are you usijg ubuntu?
07:45<jm_>using*
07:45<cptcel23>ugh, wrong channel *facepalm*
07:46<cptcel23>jm_, yes but maybe not for long considering all this ;)
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07:50<TinyPants> have a very, very simplequestion.
07:50<TinyPants>How vailable were lims and lemons when they got here?
07:50<TinyPants>You think I'm off an tangent.
07:51<TinyPants>Not quite.
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07:51<TinyPants>See, think is don't know what page to start on regarding sttting up PUKS protection.
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07:52<TinyPants>It's great, until in person is your mother/dad/, you dan't care/
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07:52<gnugr>TinyPants:do you need any debian related help/support?
07:52<Maulkin>I'm sorry, you're not really making much sense. Do you actually have a Debian question?
07:52<TinyPants>I havven' to msturate tp girl on therk, lats rovke/Always.
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08:43<Saoxiru>bonjour
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08:50<Saoxiru>Est-ce que quelqu'un pourrait me donner un lien vers un tutoriel pour installer un XDCC sur un server IRC debian ? Merci.
08:50<stderr>!fr
08:50<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr.
08:50<daemonkeeper>Yeah, please, because Italians running IRC servers are not annoying enough yet, we need the same cruft in French.
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08:51<Saoxiru>oh sorry !
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08:51<babilen>.oO( bonjour !list )
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09:17<badsuperblock1>hi all, I'm looking for a way to shutdown my laptop by pressing the power button (wheezy with openbox)
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09:17<badsuperblock1>acpi_listen returns "button/power PBTN 00000080 00000000" on button press
09:18<badsuperblock1>I have put up a file in /etc/acpi/events/powerbtn, containing
09:18<badsuperblock1>"event=button/power PBTN 00000080 00000000
09:18<badsuperblock1>action=/etc/acpi/powerbtn.sh"
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09:18<badsuperblock1>that file is executable and just contains "#!/bin/sh
09:18<badsuperblock1>poweroff"
09:19<badsuperblock1>still, nothing happens when i press the button. any ideas?
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09:20<Maulkin>badsuperblock1: permissions on /etc/acpi/powerbtn.sh ?
09:21<Maulkin>badsuperblock1: path to poweroff not set? :)
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09:21<Maulkin>badsuperblock1: Is the script being called at all? :)
09:21<Maulkin>badsuperblock1: Change the poweroff line so it touches a file in /tmp, and press the button to debug?
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09:22<gkaklas>badsuperblock1, i don't know what it could be, but i recently had an (irrelevant to yours) problem with acpi. It turned out that i had to pass a parameter on grub when it loads the kernel so acpi could gain control on a hardware part (laptop backlight in my case)
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09:23<badsuperblock>so, it finally worked. just had to reload acpid....
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09:50*barballs yawn
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09:50<barballs>good (insert appropriate time of the day) folks :)
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09:51<babilen>barballs: Welcome, what can we help you with?
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09:53<barballs>nothing at all for now babilen :) I'm here to lurk and help out myself ;)
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09:54<babilen>barballs: Fair enough - enjoy your stay in that case and consider idling in #debian-next too if you happen to use testing or unstable. :)
09:55<Neal>ac
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09:56<barballs>babilen: hehe naw not yet. am still too wet behind the ears to try anything that advanced ;)
09:57<babilen>barballs: Read http://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/ and change that
09:59<barballs>babilen: rodger that!
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10:05<barballs>babilen: isn't wheezy stable?
10:05<babilen>yes, it is
10:06<babilen>That handbook still contains a lot of very useful information that applies to wheezy as well
10:06<barballs>that link has debian 6.0 under that link
10:06<barballs>ah
10:06<barballs>cool cool
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10:20<linuxmania>HI
10:20<linuxmania>any experienced linux user here ??
10:20<blast007>linuxmania: do you have a question about Debian?
10:21<linuxmania>is compiz debian?
10:22<linuxmania>???
10:22<linuxmania>O_O
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10:22<Apollo>linuxmania: are you using debian?
10:22<blast007>I don't understand your question. Are you asking if compiz runs on Debian Linux?
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10:24<linuxmania>actually in Running ubuntu 12.04 studio and my compiz disable my Minimizing and maximizing Bar
10:24<linuxmania>Oh sorry disappear
10:25<blast007>!ubuntustudio
10:25<dpkg>Ubuntu Studio is a <Ubuntu> derivative oriented towards multimedia production. Not supported in #debian. http://ubuntustudio.org/ #ubuntustudio on irc.freenode.net. See <based on Debian>.
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10:25<linuxmania>damn! i have gone through lot of channels and Still Got No help
10:26<blast007>linuxmania: well, there's on specifically for Ubuntu Studio listed in that factoid. You're on the wrong IRC network, additionally.
10:27<linuxmania>yes i know ... i thought I will Find any Super linux User
10:27<linuxmania>well any way Thanks alot
10:27<Nemoder_>good luck
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10:28<Nemoder_>dont often see pakistanis asking for help here, even if they use the wrong distribution :)
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10:29<barballs>how did you know where he/she was from?
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10:31<Nemoder_>just guessing based on language difficulty and ip trace
10:31<gnugr>Nemoder_:get your racism elsewhere
10:31<babilen>...
10:31<Nemoder_>not trying to be racist sorry
10:31<Apollo>how's that racist?
10:31<babilen>gnugr: Please, don't escalate it and lets just drop the issue right here.
10:32*barballs group hugs!
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10:55<blami>https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1053048_597794203575633_889760058_o.jpg
10:56<babilen>blami: Please refrain from doing that in the future.
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10:57<blami>aww
10:57<blami>sorry
10:57<blami>wrong channel
10:57<blami>I am very sorry
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10:57<babilen>blami: It's okay - happens :)
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11:18<nardev>hello, what does this "X: 12" means next to Bosnian mirror? http://mirror.debian.org/status.html#err12
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11:18<nardev>Is it not up to date mirror?
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11:50<nardev>hello, what does this "X: 12" means next to Bosnian mirror? http://mirror.debian.org/status.html#err12
11:50<nardev>Is it not up to date mirror?
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11:51<babilen>nardev: http://mirror.debian.org/status.full-errors.html
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11:52<nardev>babilen, yes but 12 is not there
11:52<sney>sure is
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11:54<blast007>nardev: there's a good bit of whitespace after the 6: that makes it look like the page ends, but there's a lot of text below that
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11:54<nardev>blast007, thank you :( oh i'm stupid
11:55<nardev>blast007, why such a huge white space?
11:55<blast007>nardev: nah, I looked at the file as well, and didn't realize until sney said otherwise :)
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11:57<blast007>nardev: looks a bit wacky because some of the errors are full HTML pages injected into the existing HTML page
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12:04<barballs>offtopic: I love all these government codenames lately: Boundless Informant, EvilOlive, Stellar Wind, Aurora. Back on topic now :)
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12:27<ricardo>alguem tem um sistema de chat com controle de usuario ai?
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12:28<esseks>Hi! Is the Watcom compiler the only reason why virtualbox{.-qt,-dkms} are in contrib instead of main, right?
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12:28<esseks>s/right//
12:28<ricardo>someone has a chat system with User control there?
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12:30<blast007>esseks: seems to be the case based on what I see at the top here: http://ftp-master.metadata.debian.org/changelogs/contrib/v/virtualbox/unstable_copyright
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12:54<P4C0>Hello, with this new insserv, how can I see the status of a service? (I mean if it is going to be started or not on boot), insserv -h doesn't seem to show anything about it
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13:08<SynrG>P4C0: you seem to miss the purpose of insserv
13:09<SynrG>P4C0: maybe read its man page?
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13:10<SynrG>as for what i'd use ... probably ls
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13:10<P4C0>SynrG: hmmm, you mean if I have a service1 up (insserv service1) and that requieres service2, but service2 was disabled (insserv -r service2) it will still start it?
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13:12<P4C0>SynrG: or will service1 will not even start since service2 is not enabled?
13:12<SynrG>insserv is only about sequencing
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13:13<Guest1317>hai
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13:14<SynrG>P4C0: honestly, i don't know what would happen in that case. i tend to not make services depend on other services. i tend to make them depend on virtual facilities
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13:15<SynrG>i would be very surprised if it insserv could figure out how to sequence something in terms of something else that isn't even there. :p
13:15<SynrG>s/if it/if/
13:15<SynrG>i would expect it to complain
13:15<P4C0>SynrG: thanks :)
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13:17<SynrG>P4C0: got a concrete use case?
13:17<SynrG>hard to discuss this stuff in the abstract ...
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13:18<anoncn_78>salve
13:18<P4C0>SynrG: nop, just curious
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13:19<SynrG>P4C0: http://paste.debian.net/13003/
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13:19<SynrG>P4C0: insserv didn't let me remove service1
13:19<SynrG>P4C0: i imagine the reverse would be true, as well. adding service2 would not be allowed unless service1 were enabled first.
13:20<P4C0>SynrG: nice :) thank you
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14:33<cwickert>how to file a bug when the syste in question cannot send mail and I don't have reportbug installed on the system I'm working with?
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14:42<dmkitsch>hi, after upgrading to debian wheezy, why do I get a long list of dpkg erros that are simmilar to "dpkg: warning: files list file for package 'libwrap0:amd64' missing; assuming package has no files currently installed"
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---Logopened Thu Jun 27 15:00:48 2013
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15:41<teus>hi, i can't install debian anymore. i might have messed up something in multi-arch configuration. my log output is http://paste.debian.net/13022/
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15:44<babilen>teus: well, or here
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15:45<teus>you want my apt-cache policy?
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15:45<babilen>yes + sources.list (don't forget apt-cache policy for libc6 et al)
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15:46<teus>ok
15:46<babilen>And cross-posting is typically not necessary nor welcome :)
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15:46<teus>ok
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15:49<teus>ok, see http://paste.debian.net/13025/ babilen
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15:51<babilen>okay, you obviously want #debian-next (see /topic) as this channel only supports stable (that is wheezy) - I am also not sure which command *exactly* resulted in the output you pasted.
15:51<babilen>(your first paste)
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15:51<teus>hmm
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15:52<babilen>teus: But I think that you just have to enable multiarch to sort this out. See http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/HOWTO on information and add i386
15:52<teus>ok let me retry that
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16:04<PaulePanter>Hi. With Iceweasel 17.0.7 (not tested anything else), do you also get rendering errors in the top visiting <http://forallsecure.com/summaries>?
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16:07<PaulePanter>Ah. It’s some Flash stuff. <embed id="chartTag2934266553668958" width="940" height="500" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer"
16:07<PaulePanter>But I have Gnash installed and it does not load for some reason.
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16:09<trico>gnash is your reason. it doesnt load anything newer than v9
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16:10<PaulePanter>trico: Ok. Thank you.
16:10<PaulePanter>I still have not found out how to enable Lightspark. I have the package installed but it is not listed for enablement anywhere.
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16:14<e1genio>hello
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16:18<trico>there may be a separate package fro the browser plugin. you might have to restart browser to enable it, too
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16:39<PaulePanter>trico: browser-plugin-lightspark is installed since several months and Iceweasel has been restarted several times too. But I do not find it under Add-ons.
16:40<dexter1>dkms (2.2.0.3) and fglrx-modules-dkms (12.6+point3) aren't playing well - I get complains "Error: You must be root to use this command".
16:40<dexter1>basically, apt-get install fglrx-modules-dkms starts to build the modules and then screws up with that "You must be root to use this command".
16:41<dexter1>anyone have idea ?
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16:43<peter1138>obvious question... are you root?
16:43<peter1138>(or su or sudo...)
16:43<dexter1>root
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17:00<barballs>exit
17:00<barballs>lol
17:00<barballs>n00b fail
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17:00<barballs>toodles all
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18:45<phillipsjk>It is a good thing I read the release-notes. I was planning on doing the upgrade from an xterminal.
18:46*phillipsjk misses the pre-XDM days where you could restart the Window manager while all your programs stay running.
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19:31<backbox>hola amigos!
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20:19<youwa>hello
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21:07<ardex>http://paste.debian.net/13062
21:09<abrotman>use a paperclip ?
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21:12<phillipsjk>is there a way to unlock the drive?
21:12<ardex>I know about the paperclip. I need to fix the command for any application that calls for the CDROM to open, close, play, rtc.
21:13<ardex>I got it open by rebooting and then removed the disk
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21:15<ardex>alsaplayer was not running an audio DVD properly, then the door locked (tray)
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21:16<ardex>Inappropriate ioctl for device needs to be fixed
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21:18<phillipsjk>All I know is that the drive is typically locked while a disk is mounted. Quitting alsaplayer may have let you eject the disk.
21:19<ardex>tray works now, so I'll try another disk and another playerI'll try again with audacious since I uninstalled alsaplayer
21:20<phillipsjk>CDROM_LOCKDOOR may be what you want. https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/ioctl/cdrom.txt
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21:24<phillipsjk>hmm... "As of 2.6.8.1, the lock flag is a global lock, meaning that all CD drives will be locked or unlocked together. This is probably a bug."
21:27<ardex>I've compromised with vlc which is already installed. Rarely has any problems. Thanks for the help.
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21:29<ardex>update: seems ok
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22:29<cameron>Hey, is there anyone who could help me fix issues with my Elantech touchpad?
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22:30<chealer>!anyone
22:30<dpkg>Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>.
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22:33<cameron>I am having issues with my Elantech touchpad on my ASUS K55N laptop. I can't right click, because when I do it registers as a left click. I'm at a loss of what to do. Anyone have any experience with this?
22:34<cameron>I only have this issue with Debian.
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23:16<phillipsjk>OK, so now how am I supposed to do the required restart? I usually just push the power button on the key board. That now suspends instead of bringing up the restart menu.
23:17*phillipsjk found a "Shutdown..." option in the "James Kenneth Phillips" menu
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23:21<Besttech>I am new to linux what this chat for
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23:25<phillipsjk>Great, non-usable desktop. My video card is supported well enough fo Gnome3 to load, but not well enough to display window contents. (I think the release notes mention what to do)
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23:39*phillipsjk installs lightdm
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