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01:00<phillipsjk>Is there any possible reason the squeeze -> wheezy upgrade would cause my keyboard to randomly stop working?
01:01<phillipsjk>(PS2 style)
01:04<phillipsjk>restarting seems to fix it. I am leaning towards a possible lightdm bug.
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01:14<seeS>Hi, any idea why when i boot linux 3.8 my md drives are not found and therefore it halts saying no root found?
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01:20<phillipsjk>seeS could this be the problem?
01:20<phillipsjk>http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#boot-timing
01:21<seeS>no its before that
01:21<seeS>about 2 lines about uncompressing elf
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01:22<seeS>ill reboot and make a note of it
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01:30<seeS>you got that url again? i think i might be that
01:30<seeS>i didnt wait for the timeout
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01:30<phillipsjk>http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#boot-timing
01:31<seeS>ah its close
01:31<seeS>i have my physical drives but not my LVM ones
01:31<seeS>ie notihng in /dev/mapper
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01:35<seeS>yep, rootdelay=1 fixes it
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01:59<sagpatke>hi! which package contains the resolveip command?
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02:30<SARC>!dpkg multiarch
02:30<dpkg>Multiarch allows you to install foreign architecture packages. For example, to allow i386 packages to be installed on an amd64 system: «dpkg --add-architecture i386 && apt-get update». See http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch and <multiarch howto>, <multiarch failures>. For the unrelated installer that can install i386 or amd64, see <multi-arch installer>.
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02:51<iig>Hi. Well, that may not be debian related, but can anyone recommend some great linux video courses? I've watched CBT's and VTC's though these are way too basic and outdated, I need more advanced stuff.
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03:22<EmleyMoor>If I have a VM disk image ("raw" type) that is GPT-partitioned, is it easy to mount partitions of it in Debian, if required?
03:23<aaronjlin>does anybody know of a good network admin book for linux/debian
03:23<aaronjlin>I found the oreilly book but it's a bit out of date (http://oreilly.com/openbook/linag2/book/index.html)
03:23<Zaba>EmleyMoor, loop mounting with an offset will work regardless of partition table type
03:23<Zaba>EmleyMoor, but you need to calculate the offset from the partition table
03:24<EmleyMoor>Zaba: How do I display the partition table?
03:24<EmleyMoor>(I've done it with MBR and BSD)
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03:25<Zaba>EmleyMoor, try just running the usual partition table tools (gdisk for GPT, isn't it) on the file?
03:25<EmleyMoor>Ah, now that's what I didn't know...
03:25<Zaba>EmleyMoor, failing that, losetup the file and run them on the loop device
03:25<EmleyMoor>I don't have gdisk - will look into that
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03:29<EmleyMoor>I suppose I'll have to look into GPT for this machine sometime... though it's non-urgent
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03:34*EmleyMoor has to wonder if there's a simple way to convert an existing setup to GPT...
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03:36<SARC>I am getting a /bin/sh gcc not found error. I am trying to compile an i386 app on an amd64 platform.
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03:36<Zaba>EmleyMoor, what would the point be?
03:37<EmleyMoor>Zaba: Been wondering that myself - apart from consistency
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03:51<chris>hi
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04:08<babylon>hello - what are the differences between chromium and google's chrome?
04:09<faheem>babylon: chromium is foss
04:09<babylon>is chromium also updated in stable wheezy in line with google's chrome releases?
04:09<babylon>faheem: I already knew that one :)
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04:10<babylon>i just want to be sure if I will have the same experience
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04:10<babylon>regarding built-in flashplayer - is chromium up to date?
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04:10<phillipsjk>I switched keyboards and still get the same symptoms. I wonder is it has to do with the asychronous boot.
04:11<phillipsjk>I don't think chromium has a built-in flash player.
04:12<phillipsjk>!flash
04:12<dpkg>Flash is frequently used to deliver interactivity, audio and video through a web browser. Ask me about <gnash> and <lightspark> for free implementations or <adobe flash> for a non-free implementation. http://wiki.debian.org/Flash
04:12<babylon>argh - that's the main reason why i use chromium now and then - if adobe's linux flashplayer does not support some flash content I am using chrome
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04:12<babylon>why i use chrome*
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04:36<phillipsjk>found a work-around: going into suspend mode seems to wake the keyboard
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04:56<PersonOne>welcome f10
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04:58<jerryzhou>hi
04:58<PersonOne>how r u?
04:59<jerryzhou>fine and you
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05:00<PersonOne>good. Is your last name Zhou chinese?
05:00<jerryzhou>yes sure
05:00<jerryzhou>where are you from
05:00<PersonOne>is that where youlive?
05:00<PersonOne>Australia
05:01<jerryzhou>oh beautiful
05:01<PersonOne>have you travelled here?
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05:06<ectospasm>is it true that Australians are happier than the rest of the world, on average?
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05:24<Vivek>I am facing some issues with Audio on my Debian 'testing' machine. The machine was upgraded from 'stable' to 'testing'. These are the diagnoistic steps I have taken: http://paste.debian.net/13269/. Kindly assist me to proceed further. Thanks in advance.
05:25<ectospasm>Vivek: define "issues"
05:25<ectospasm>Vivek: without a proper problem statement, how can we help?
05:26<Vivek>I am trying to open a video on youtube and I am not able to hear sound.
05:26<Vivek>The video is playing fine with gnash.
05:26<Vivek>The issue is that I cannot listen to any sound.
05:27<Vivek>s/listen to/hear any
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05:29<ectospasm>any sound? Or just sound from Flash?
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05:37<wardhan>vivek: can you provide the link of youtube.
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05:44<wardhan>vivek: probably you are using hdmi as default instead of analog. check in your sound settings.
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05:50<faheem>babylon: chrome is managed by google, who also do the debian packages. the chomium debian packages are packaged by debian
05:50<faheem>i don't think chromium tries to stay in sync with chrome
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05:51<grandie>got a good one, apt-get works under sudo, however i need to sign in as root to use synaptic is there some config file i need to change
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06:08<Vivek>wardhan: Thanks. Can you tell me how to check my sound settings ?
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06:10<Vivek>ectospasm: ping
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06:13<wardhan>if ur using gome, preferences - sound
06:13<Vivek>wardhan: I am using xfce
06:14<Vivek>I don't prefer gnome or kde because of code bloat
06:14<Vivek>Sound was working fine when I used GNOME earlier.
06:14<Nemoder>try gnome-alsamixer (doesn't require gnome installed)
06:14<Vivek>ok
06:15<Nemoder>or pavucontrol if you use pulseaudio
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06:15<Vivek>ok
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06:17<wardhan>xfce4-settings
06:18<Vivek>wardhan,Nemoder http://paste.debian.net/13269/
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06:18<mudur>hi
06:18<mudur>do u hear me
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06:19<Nemoder>yes
06:19<Nemoder>Vivek: is it only flash with no audio or everything?
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06:30<Vivek>Nemoder: It's working now
06:30<Vivek>gnome-alsamixer did the trick.
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06:39<Nemoder>cool
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06:44<mongrol>hello?
06:44<SynrG>morning
06:45<mongrol>just checking
06:45<mongrol>awesome wallabies v lions game
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06:46<SynrG>mongrol: you have reached the debian support channel. do you have a debian support question? see #moocows or #debian-offtopic if you were looking for a social channel
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06:46<mongrol>lol
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07:11<karim>Hi
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07:14<imo>hello
07:14<karim>hello
07:15<imo>comment ca va
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07:16<imo>?
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07:56<Tubia87>hi all, I would like to install debian testing in my home pc. In this pc I have ubuntu 11.10 with a partition for /home. If I install debian over ubuntu (format ubuntu partiton), it is possible to keep configurations inside /home? Are they compatible? I.e.: .filezilla folder with congigs inside
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07:58<apm1>Tubia87, they should be you just need to symlink the /home later
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08:01<abrotman>symlink why?
08:02<babilen>Tubia87: Just make sure that you *do not* create a filesystem on /home - that is please make sure you have the right settings during the partitioning step. I also wouldn't want to guarantee that Ubuntu's configuration files are 100% compatible (let alone the same) as in Debian and your overall experience might be better if you install Debian from scratch and then migrate selected data from your Ubuntu backup.
08:02<Tubia87>apm1, babilen thank you
08:03<Tubia87>in fact I have only .thunderbird, .firefox and .filezilla to keep
08:03<apm1>should probably be smooth sailing
08:04<abrotman>not likely
08:04<babilen>Tubia87: Further note that we recommend to install wheezy (stable) and upgrade from there if you want to run testing. I'd especially recommend the netinstall image with firmware if you have a working internet connection as that allows you to use most hardware out-of-the-box without having to download and provide firmware files separately. This is, naturally, all discussed in the <installation guide>
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08:05<babilen>Tubia87: Do you have any preference regarding your desktop environment or window manager?
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08:06<Tubia87>babilen, yep I was reading it :) Preferences for DE? I think cinnamon but I would like to have xmonad at disposal
08:06<babilen>Tubia87: And to give you some tips regarding testing: First and foremost: It is not supported in this channel but in #debian-next (cf. /topic) and I would recommend to read the article/faq at http://wiki.debian.org/DebianUnstable which contains a number of tips and tricks that are applicable/relevant for testing as well.
08:07<babilen>Tubia87: Sure, in that case you might *not* want to install any desktop task during the initial installation but install Xorg / cinnamon / xmonad after the initial installation. I would recommend to make sure that you have the standard task installed though as it contains a number of tools you simply would expect to be available at any time.
08:08<Tubia87>babilen, ok! I was asking here just because I have not decided yet wich flavour of debian to install (it's a home pc and I would like to provide a good experience to everyone at home)
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08:09<babilen>Tubia87: Another point is that you will probably want to pull packages from unstable into testing sooner or later. This is primarily due to the idiosyncrasies of testing (no real security support, package removals, tricky <transitions>, ...) and you might therefore want to configure your system as a testung unstable mix which is discussed in <tum> -- All these reference in < ... > refer to factoids you can ask our bot, dpkg with, for example, ...
08:09<babilen>... "/msg dpkg tum"
08:09<babilen>Tubia87: Well, you have to install stable anyway at the beginning and you don't have to upgrade to testing immediately.
08:09<babilen>judd: v cinnamon
08:09<judd>Package: cinnamon on i386 -- jessie: 1.7.4-2; sid: 1.7.4-2
08:10<babilen>Tubia87: Note that cinnamon is *not* available in wheezy though.
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08:12<Tubia87>babilen, thank you for all this infos. The bot is amazing
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08:12<babilen>Tubia87: Regarding your configration files: abrotman probably has it right in that (at least) .thunderbird and .firefox might prove to be problematic. Debian does not ship either but Icedove and Iceweasel respectively (read <why iceweasel> and take a look at http://mozilla.debian.net) and you might run into problems because of that. I have only ever used the Debian versions so I can't speak from personal experience.
08:13<babilen>Tubia87: I'd recommend to join us in #debian-next and to familiarise yourself with our bots dpkg and judd. Read <dpkgbot> and <install debian> and take a look at the documentation on judd at http://ircbots.debian.net/judd/
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08:16<Tubia87>babilen, ok, bookmarked the link. about mozilla firefox and thunderbird: I have just to keep bookmarks in ffox, and mails (of course) in thunderbird (maybe also a owncloud calendar config)
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08:19<babilen>Tubia87: You might want to export your bookmarks to HTML before transitioning and I wouldn't really expect problems with your mails. I mean the data won't be lost (you'll still have the mbox files after all), but it *might* not be as easy as simply copying ~/.mozilla/ and starting Iceweasel/Icedove -- but then it might, I simply don't know. Maybe abrotman could elaborate on the problems he expected you to run into.
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08:19<babilen>Please excuse such an imprecise answer
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08:20<Tubia87>babilen, ok. standing to this thread it seems to be simple enough: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=103591
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08:21<Tubia87>(I hope so)
08:22<babilen>Fair enough, yeah .. it is ~/.mozilla/firefox and ~/.icedove/ here.
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08:23<babilen>Tubia87: Seriously, it can't be that hard. It probably boils down to renaming some files/directories (if at all)
08:23<Tubia87>yep
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08:25<Tubia87>babilen, thank you. Finally, back to debian :) (it was the first distro I installed, using the net install years ago, helped by other local debianists)
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08:27<babilen>yay \o/ -- Have fun! :)
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08:28<Tubia87>:) see you soon! bye all
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08:40<denilson>bom dia
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08:55<RingoDingo>Hi, i tried to install compiz, but i get an error that i need pythoncompiz-config and this needs python < 2.7 but i have 2.7.3-4. what can i do ?
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08:56<babilen>dpkg: tell RingoDingo -about bat
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09:10<RingoDingo>http://paste.debian.net/13289/
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09:16<babilen>RingoDingo: Oh dear ... Why do you have wheezy and squeeze in your sources.list? Did you upgrade from squeeze to wheezy (but then, why leave wheezy in your sources.list?) Please also note that compiz is *not* in wheezy -- I would recommend to complete the upgrade from squeeze to wheezy by following the release notes and we can take it from there.
09:16<babilen>dpkg: tell RingoDingo about squeeze->wheezy
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09:16<babilen>judd: v compiz
09:16<judd>Package: compiz on i386 -- squeeze: 0.8.4-4; sid: 0.8.4-5.2; experimental: 0.9.2.1+git20110226.f059fae9-4
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09:17<babilen>RingoDingo: Once you've done that you can look into backporting compiz to wheezy, but I have no idea how well that'll work. The procedure is detailed in "/msg dpkg ssb", but then I wouldn't necessarily recommend to use compiz anyway.
09:17<babilen>dpkg: tell RingoDingo -about compiz
09:18<babilen>judd: bug #677864
09:18<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/677864 in src:compiz (open): «compiz 0.8 should not release with wheezy»; severity: serious; opened: 2012-06-17; last modified: 2012-08-19.
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10:03<graham>Hi. Does anyone know which kernel modules are responsible for the hardlock wifi switch (fn & F12) on my HP laptop?
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11:04<Roxan>Can someone give me guidance on best method to upgrade apache2 to the latestest version
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11:05<abrotman>Roxan: why?
11:05<abrotman>or rather, what's wrong with the one you have?
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11:06<Roxan>I am trying to setup mod_proxy and the options are not available in the old version installed by default on wheezy
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11:06<abrotman>the options?
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11:07<abrotman>mod_proxy is in the main package
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11:08<Roxan>ProxyAddHeaders Directive
11:08<Roxan>Available in version 2.3.10 and later
11:08<Roxan>For example
11:09<abrotman>judd: versions apache2.2-bin
11:09<judd>Package: apache2.2-bin on i386 -- squeeze: 2.2.16-6+squeeze10; squeeze-proposed-updates: 2.2.16-6+squeeze11; squeeze-security: 2.2.16-6+squeeze11; jessie: 2.2.22-13; wheezy: 2.2.22-13; sid: 2.4.4-6
11:10<abrotman>!tell Roxan about ssb
11:10<abrotman>good luck!
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11:11<Roxan>That is my problem the apache is to old for my needs
11:11<Roxan>is there a best way to upgrade on Debian ?
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11:12<abrotman>2.4.4?
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11:12<abrotman>that's too old?
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11:15<babilen>abrotman, Roxan: daemonkeeper mentioned that backporting Apache 2.4 from sid to wheezy is not something one should do.
11:15<abrotman>bah, what would daemonkeeper know about apache? :)
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11:16<Roxan>ok, sorry
11:16<Roxan>what is sid
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11:16<abrotman>ignore I said anything
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11:17<daemonkeeper>The actual question is: Why do you think Apache 2.2 is too old? It's not there would be revolutionary new features?
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11:17<Roxan>Features in mod proxy
11:17<Roxan>neded
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11:18<melmothX>use a real proxy such nginx , not that thing called "mod_proxy" (imho)
11:18<daemonkeeper>There are real proy servers in Debian, you know?
11:19<daemonkeeper>nginx is even worse.
11:19<melmothX>impossible. nothing is worse than apache
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11:20<daemonkeeper>Oh I'm sorry. I didn't realize you're trolling. In that case: Yeah, please use nginx. It's the best HTTP server ever!!!!!!!
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11:24<melmothX>assuming Roxan wants a reverse proxy, nginx is the good thing to do. If it wants a forward proxy, that's another story
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11:25<Roxan>ok what is the best real proxy then
11:25<daemonkeeper>!best
11:25<dpkg>Best for what? Please define what you mean by "best". Gloria Gaynor! Tina Turner! Aretha Franklin! Men without Hats! Women without Hats! Men at Work! Women at Play! Anyone for Tennis!
11:25<XAVeRY>David Bowie!
11:25<melmothX>and define "real"
11:25<melmothX>forward or reverse?
11:25<Roxan>squid i looked at but it was a night mare to setup and no documentation that I could understand
11:26<Roxan>reverse, like a simple CDN
11:26<XAVeRY>maybe it's not the documentation's fault that you can't understand it.
11:26<daemonkeeper>Roxan: Trafficserver or Varnish.
11:26<Roxan>agreed, documentation at a level I can understand
11:26<XAVeRY>there you go. :)
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11:27<Roxan>we can't all be Bill gates
11:27<Ganneff>squid as a reverse proxy IS a nightmare. "normal" one its dead simple.
11:27<Roxan>Or another famous IT person...
11:27<melmothX>bill gates is not known for understanding docs
11:27<daemonkeeper>Bill is not really known for his technical skills.
11:27<Ganneff>(from the setup pov. forward "just" works)
11:27<Roxan>Yes, thanks I will google Trafficserver
11:27<Roxan>thanks for you time
11:27<melmothX>!next
11:27<dpkg>A satisfied customer? We should have him stuffed!
11:28<XAVeRY>trafficserver looks good, yeah.
11:28<daemonkeeper>He's known for the right idea at the right time. Technical innovation coming from Gates is net to zero.
11:28<Ganneff>uh.
11:28<daemonkeeper>*next
11:28<Ganneff>google it? wtf? you are in debian
11:28<Ganneff>apt-cache search, then show
11:28<Ganneff>(or directly show, if you are sure about package name)
11:28<sney>SNR seems a bit high in here today
11:29<daemonkeeper>(hint: package name starts with traffic and ends with server :p)
11:29<Roxan>lol
11:29<Roxan>sorry still learning
11:29<Ganneff>daemonkeeper: and search reveals two more of it
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11:34<MJX>hello
11:34<XAVeRY>hi there.
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11:35<MJX>Who are you
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11:37<ardex>This machine has an nvidia PCI Express graphics card and I ran nvidia-detect. It stated use:the GLX version. I had nouveau installed and when GLX was installed, I had a driver conflict that locked me out of the system. Had to reload.
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11:39<MJX>Try reinstall
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11:42<antonio>hello, anybody speak spain?
11:43<Ganneff>!es
11:43<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
11:43<antonio>thanks
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11:44<ardex>conclusion: not all recommendations are valid. (to me)
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11:46<MJX>I am very sorry ,I am rookie
11:47<babilen>ardex: How did you install the driver and what is the actual problem you are trying to solve?
11:47<babilen>ardex: have you seen http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers ?
11:48<ardex>problem solved by reinstalling OS. will look at link
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11:55<ardex>looking at the nvidia driver page, it shows the corredt solution, but the problem is in the initial install when a user (me) does not know which driver version to select. Now I know for the next time.
11:57<ardex>"nvidia driver is not autodetected by Xorg" is key
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11:57<blast007>ardex: do not use the driver package from the nVidia site
11:57<blast007>!nvidia dkms
11:57<dpkg>For Debian 7 "Wheezy" users. Ask me about <contrib> and <non-free sources>. «aptitude -r install linux-headers-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` nvidia-kernel-dkms && mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf». Restart your system to enable the <nouveau> blacklist.
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11:58<sney>blast007, he was referring to the debian wiki page, which has been updated
11:58<blast007>ah, okay
11:58<Djon>Hi, every time I run apt-get update I keep downloading 4 repos "InRelease", everything works I was just wondering why.
11:58<sney>the postinstall script on newer versions of nvidia-kernel-dkms has a warning about Xorg not being able to autodetect the nvidia driver too, which is nice. that'll probably make it into wheezy-backports at some point
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11:59<ardex>hope so
11:59<olspookishmagus>After getting some:
11:59<olspookishmagus>udevd[517]: symlink '../dm-10' '/dev/media0/education.udev-tmp' failed: Not a directory
11:59<olspookishmagus>errors while booting, I looked a little bit to find out this:
11:59<olspookishmagus># ls -ld /dev/media*
11:59<olspookishmagus>crw------- 1 root root 249, 0 Jun 29 18:14 /dev/media0
11:59<olspookishmagus>drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 80 Jun 29 18:14 /dev/media1
11:59<olspookishmagus>any ideas why is this happening?
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12:00<olspookishmagus>all following long pastes will be posted to a pastebin
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12:01<olspookishmagus>further info on my setup: http://paste.debian.net/plainh/f5294f83 http://paste.debian.net/plainh/b4e6c5c7 http://paste.debian.net/hidden/96e41317/
12:01<olspookishmagus>could it be something related to line #12 here: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/96e41317/
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12:16<vicmmuran>hi there some one can helpme in a web server wan access? (my lan access runing ok)
12:17<olspookishmagus>I'd try #networking@freenode too
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12:18<infrid>hi
12:19<vicmmuran>nobody in the channel #networking@freenode
12:19<vicmmuran>hi infrid
12:19<olspookishmagus>vicmmuran: it's #networking @ freenode irc network, silly
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12:20<vicmmuran>:P thnks
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12:26<Blackhat>bye
12:26<Blackhat>exit
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12:30<phillipsjk>In trying to truoble-shoot my keyboard issue, I inserted a line in the boot arguments to read "set rootdelay='60'" The computer did not pause for 60 seconds during the boot process.
12:30<olspookishmagus>phillipsjk: are aware of bootlogd?
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12:31<olspookishmagus>s/e\ a/e\ you\ a/g
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12:32<phillipsjk>didn't think to check that, no.
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12:35<phillipsjk>The keyboard seems to work reliably today. I wonder if some chip in the machine was getting hot.
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12:41<phillipsjk>I did not add rootdelay to the actual kernel command-line. I wonder if that is why it had no effect.
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12:44*phillipsjk has not idea why the core GPU clock would be 274Mhz, yet the memory clock is 405 MHz
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13:17<stefct>is it normal for Opera to automatically set itself as "default browser" in Debian after installation?
13:17<stefct>I thought only Windows software did that kind of stuff...
13:18<babilen>stefct: Ask them!
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13:18<babilen>stefct: I would consider that incredibly rude behaviour, but then ...
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13:19<stefct>yeah, I'm wondering whether I missed something there, but I'm pretty sure I haven't been asked "Do you want Opera to be your default browser" or anything like that
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13:22<abrotman>babilen: why? other browsers do that
13:23<stderr_dk>stefct: What does update-alternatives --display x-www-browser say?
13:23<babilen>abrotman: I still consider it incredibly rude
13:24<stefct>stderr_dk: I ran update-alternatives --config x-www-browser, and before I changed the settings back to iceweasel, it said: * 0 /usr/bin/opera 200 auto mode
13:24<babilen>abrotman: Well, maybe not quite that bad, but I don't like this "Use ME ME ME ME" behaviour. If I wanted to change my default browser I would do that. you don't have to ask every time i start you or, even worse, just set yourself as default.
13:24<stefct>in my case, it was the third browser I installed after iceweasel and chromium, and as far as I remember, chromium did nothing like that
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13:25<babilen>abrotman: Also opera claiming 200 is pretty presumptuous, but then one might argue that people who install Opera are typically people who really want to use it.
13:25<abrotman>stefct: it's up to the maintainer, and IIRC, Opera has a bug tracker where you can file bugs
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13:25<babilen>have to run
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13:26<stefct>abrotman: thanks, I might do that... I just brought it up here because I thought it might have upset a few other Debian users as well
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13:27<abrotman>stefct: i have opera installed, but i guess i know enough of how to set the default in multiple places
13:27<abrotman>stefct: also, I think they have an IRC server you can complain to :)
13:27<abrotman>stefct: https://bugs.opera.com/secure/Dashboard.jspa
13:29<stderr_dk>What's a "JIRA administrator"? :-)
13:29<abrotman>JIRA is a ticket system
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13:30<abrotman>stefct: you don't need an account to file a bu
13:30<abrotman>bug
13:30<stefct>I think many people who install Opera in Debian do it to test their own websites in various browsers... and aren't necessarily interested in having it as default
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13:30<abrotman>stefct: okay, so file the bug in their BTS
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13:35<stefct>well, apparently a Linux Mint user has reported the same issue already: http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=1688982
13:35<stefct>guess I'll leave it at that for now
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13:36<stefct>or rather, a similiar but worse issue
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14:21<XAVeRY>is it normal for a desktop installation of Debian to take over two hours on modern hardware?
14:21<mtn>XAVeRY: nope
14:21<XAVeRY>damn.
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14:22<XAVeRY>mtn: I'm installing it onto a disk with LVM, on a btrfs partition. could that be the cause?
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14:23<mtn>XAVeRY: sorry, never installed that way. maybe someone else knows
14:23<XAVeRY>mtn: okay. thanks. :)
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14:28<Arrowmaster>are you doing a netinstall
14:29<XAVeRY>yep. but the packages are already downloaded, it's the install/configure part that's taking soooo long.
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14:32<weasel>what is it doing?
14:32<XAVeRY>apt is installing the packages.
14:32<weasel>you can see info on other VCs, and you can get shells in VC2 and 3
14:32<XAVeRY>yeah, that's what I can see on VC4.
14:33<weasel>is it actually doing things or just sitting there?
14:33<XAVeRY>it is, yeah.
14:33<weasel>ok
14:33<XAVeRY>but I wouldn't expect it to take so long.
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14:33<weasel>I would not be too surprised if btrfs was to blame
14:33<weasel>nobody uses it :)
14:33<XAVeRY>yeah, I think I'm going to revert to ext4...
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14:33<ardex>still having trouble loading xserver. error:permission denied.
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14:36<ardex>so, hoe do I reconfigure permissions for xserver?
14:36<ardex>how?
14:37<mtn>ardex: how are you trying to start it and as which user?
14:37<Nazcafan>I am randomly hitting a kernel panic at boot time, I have taken a picture of the sceen containing the kernel stack (for some reason, it doesn't show up on kern.log). It seems to be related to the i915 driver system. Is it appropriate to open a bug against my current version of linux-image-3.9-1-686-pae?
14:37<ardex>I'm both admin and user
14:37<Nazcafan>I also transcribed the picture into a text file
14:37<mtn>ardex: what does that mean?
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14:38<ardex>I use startx in init
14:38<ardex>fluxbox wm
14:38<ardex>no display mgr
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14:38<mtn>ardex: do you mean .xinitrc?
14:38<Nazcafan>you can't have fluxbox combined with a light graphical login manager?
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14:39<ardex>y
14:39<mtn>ardex: who are you talking to? type their name first.
14:39<ardex>ok
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14:39<ardex>mtn:ok
14:39<mtn>ardex: so, which user is trying to run startx?
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14:40<ardex>not the root
14:40<mtn>ardex: then I don't see how you can have permission issues. maybe a dm would be a good idea for you.
14:40<ardex>mtn:I log in as user with $ prompt
14:41<ardex>mtn: I see only two prompts. # and $.
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14:42<ardex>I'll try xdm, but I don't like it.
14:44*ardex is a gui minimalist
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15:07<DruggedMonk>Hello all i've been trying to modify the noise that happens when you tab complete. The current sound is very grating when you're listening to soft music and have head phones one.
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15:14<musca>DruggedMonk: is that a question?
15:14<musca>!bell
15:14<dpkg>To disable the bell: "xset b off" in X, "setterm -blength 0" in console. For some reason, bash beeps excessively when in emacs (default) mode; "set -o vi" puts it in vi editing mode, which doesn't beep on partial completions. In konsole, Settings->Bell->Visible Bell. See also <pcspkr>, <shell beep>, <metacity bell bug>.
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15:16<herpy>Does Iceweasel automatically update?
15:16<DruggedMonk>musca: thanks. is bell different than system beep?
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15:17<phillipsjk>herpy: not directly. It would get updated by the system updater if you have one running, ro when you manually tell the system to update.
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15:18<herpy>The reason I ask is cause I'm on Debian stable, and after syncing my bookmarks and stuff, my version of iceweasel went from version 10 to version 17
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15:21<phillipsjk>I have version 17 here.
15:22*phillipsjk checks if mega.co.nz works now
15:22<musca>herpy: security team dropped support of iceweasel 10 and now provides iceweasel 17 esr as a security package.
15:22<DruggedMonk>musca: i was looking for 'alert' sound. it was driving me nuts how loud it was.
15:22<herpy>Ah that explains it.
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15:23<herpy>Just asking cause I did not remember updating Iceweasel.
15:23<musca>herpy: there was an anoucement on the mailing list.
15:24<herpy>And that's why I should check my email more often XD
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15:33<wdoodle>hello, trying to set up a console over serial. I've got getty running on ttyS0 on the main system. Using minicom on the client system, connected to ttyUSB0, I see the login prompt, can enter the uname, and hit enter, but never see the password prompt. Suggestions ?
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15:36<phillipsjk>are you trying to log in as root? That is restricted to "secure" consoles AFIAK.
15:36<wdoodle>I should add that one doc on setting up serial console that I saw said that -L in inittab on the main system was useful if the password prompt never shows, but I have that already with no happy ending
15:36<wdoodle>no, a regular user
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15:37<phillipsjk>turn the serial cable around. I suspect it may be broken in one direction.
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15:48<XAVeRY>just in case anybody was interested, switching to normal partitioning scheme (without LVM) and ext4 fixed the problem, everything installed in less than half an hour.
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15:57<SamB>phillipsjk: is that just supposed to show him if it is indeed broken in one direction?
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16:02<wdoodle>phillipsjk: thx. Turns out it isn't broken, but playing with it fixed the problem, so I suspect it was badly seated somewhere (usb to 9pin-9pin to 25 pin adapter-null modem cable-25pin to 9 pin adapter :))
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16:03<wdoodle>now on to see if I can get grub and kernel console messages showing up from boot
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16:40<sesko>hello
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16:45<phillipsjk>samb: If it was indeed broken in only one direction, he would not be able to see the prompt, but would be able to log in. He would check that from the VGA console with ps -A or similar.
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16:48<peter1139>Hmm, I wonder if OpenSSH from Jessie will install cleanly on Wheezy.
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17:01<stderr_dk>peter1139: What does the Jessie version have that the Wheezy version doesn't have?
17:01<alessio>hi :)
17:02<alessio>how are you??
17:02<ompaul>alessio: have you a debian question
17:02<ompaul>stderr_dk: the fact it is not a stable release
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17:02<ompaul>in fact is it not a release full stop
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17:03<stderr_dk>I was just wondering why he would want the Jessie version of OpenSSH.
17:04<ompaul>stderr_dk: no idea
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17:07<Argure>is there any particular reason apache2.2.24 (the httpd) is not yet in wheezy main?
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17:09<Arrowmaster>wheezy will only get security updates, not new versions
17:09<Argure>2.2.24 is a security update
17:09<Argure>2.4.x is the latest upstream
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17:10<funkyHat>Argure: that's not how security updates in Debian generally work - the actual security patches will be backported onto the version in the release
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17:12<Argure>funkyHat: so 2.2.22 will have the security patches of 2.2.24 without incrementing the version number?
17:12<Argure>that sounds... off :p
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17:12<funkyHat>Argure: yes, see http://ftp-master.metadata.debian.org/changelogs//main/a/apache2/apache2_2.2.22-13_changelog
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17:13<stderr_dk>Argure: It won't have any new features from 2.2.24, so it's not 2.2.24.
17:13<tuMamiyTupapi>list
17:13<Argure>gotcha.
17:14<funkyHat>Argure: the 'stable' part of 'Debian stable' can be taken to mean 'not changing' -- there are probably other fixes in 2.2.24 than just security ones, those won't be backported
17:14<Argure>okay, yeah, that makes sense.
17:14<Argure>I only recently switched to debian for server use after getting fed up with RHEL :P
17:14<chealer>Argure: 2.2.24 is not *only* a secure update
17:15<funkyHat>The idea is that once a debain release is released it changes as little as possible, in order to avoid any issues like some bug fix breaking your configuration which worked around the original bug
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17:15<Argure>so essentially, wheezy will remain on 2.2.22 but with security patches being backported.
17:15<funkyHat>Correct
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17:16<Argure>perfect
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17:17<funkyHat>Argure: there are a handful of packages which do take new upstream versions, but they are by far the exception
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17:53<XAVeRY>my Debian system replies to certain DNS queries with "Connection refused", while tcpdump shows that a reply is properly received. the queries can also be made from other hosts on the same network, to the same DNS server.
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17:57<mdupont>hey
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17:59<XAVeRY>hi there.
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18:05<mdupont>i am trying to get usb tethering working with my droid razr, I am connected via bluetooth now
18:07<Argure>other question: is it possible to run wheezy on an old MBP these days? last I checked, nvidia non-free blobs were broken when running in pure efi mode.
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18:24<Jeabiner>test
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18:48<melancholia>hi
18:49<melancholia>anyone got heat problems with wheezy ?
18:49<ompaul>have you applied any firmware that might be needed for your hardware?
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18:50<dea>what kidn of problem are you referring to?
18:50<melancholia>ompaul, nvidia drivers
18:50<melancholia>just cleaned my pc still have cooler issues
18:50<ompaul>I know nothing of them
18:50<ompaul>!nvidia
18:50<dpkg>Where possible, Nvidia graphic processing units are supported using the open source <nouveau> driver on Debian systems by default. To install the proprietary "nvidia" driver, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers or ask me about <nvidia dkms>, <nvidia legacy>; installing this directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia on irc.freenode.net.
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18:51<melancholia>I'm using the nvidia modules from the repos
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18:52<ompaul>melancholia: please follow the link from the bot
18:52<melancholia>but still I did the same on Squeeze and by far didn't warm like this
18:52<melancholia>ompaul, I'm using the correct drivers for my graphic card
18:52<ompaul>is the hardware old?
18:52<melancholia>3/4 years
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18:53<ompaul>so a celeron or something?
18:53<melancholia>core duo 2
18:53<ompaul>1G of ram?
18:54<melancholia>http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?cc=us&lc=en&dlc=en&tmp_geoLoc=true&docname=c01956331
18:54<melancholia>similar to this
18:54<ompaul>is it 1G of ram?
18:54<ompaul>type free and work it out :)
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18:55<ompaul>what has it got?
18:56<ompaul>is that what it is? HP G61-110SA Notebook PC Product Specifications
18:56<ompaul>what its saying there is not nvidia its saying Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 4500MHD
18:56<ompaul>is that optimus?
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18:57<melancholia>mine is Notebook HP G61-400SP
18:57<ompaul>in a terminal please type " free" and tell me how much RAM it has
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18:58<melancholia>http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01963544&cc=us&destPage=document&lc=en&tmp_docname=c02067855
18:58<ompaul>just do the bit where you type free in the terminal please
18:58<melancholia>2058224
18:59<ompaul>top line?
18:59<melancholia>memony yes
18:59<melancholia>*memory
18:59<ompaul>so about 2 gigs
18:59<melancholia>so it seems
18:59<ompaul>less the bit you gave to your video
19:00<melancholia> total used free shared buffers cached
19:00<melancholia>Mem: 2058224 1276188 782036 0 33096 623284
19:00<melancholia>-/+ buffers/cache: 619808 1438416
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19:01<ompaul>so here's the thing - a core duo will find this software a little hard to drive not impossible just a bit slow
19:02<ompaul>I was hoping you had 1G because that's what I stopped using about 2 weeks ago and switched full time to a faster box
19:02<melancholia>Version 304.88 this is the driver compatible to mine
19:02<ompaul>the heat shouldn't be an issue if the graphics driver is ok
19:03<ompaul>if nouveau isn't working right you could consider nvidia dkms
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19:03<ompaul>the machine you mention I find has this stated on the HP site Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 4500MHD
19:03<ompaul>this indicates something horrid
19:03<ompaul>!optimus
19:03<dpkg>The Bumblebee project aims to provide support for the Nvidia Optimus GPU switching technology on Linux systems. GeForce 400M (4xxM) and later mobile GPU series are Optimus-enabled; if «lspci -nn | grep '\''[030[02]\]'» returns two lines, the laptop likely uses Optimus. Packaged for Debian in <testing> and <wheezy-backports>. http://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee http://bumblebee-project.org/ #bumblebee on irc.freenode.net.
19:04<ompaul>please run that lspci thing
19:04<ompaul>see if it is
19:04<melancholia>(sorry phone) well is hot lately here, but I been talking with other coleagues who use wheezy and seems a common issue
19:04<melancholia>ok
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19:07<melancholia>I think you didn't get it, I'm using the nvidia modules installed by me as I stated above
19:08<melancholia>And in the lap link I gave you, there's the nvidia graphic
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19:10<ompaul>searches showed other stuff
19:10<melancholia>http://paste.debian.net/13375/
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19:10<melancholia>http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01963544&cc=us&destPage=document&lc=en&tmp_docname=c02067855
19:11<melancholia>NVIDIA GeForce G 103M
19:11<melancholia>I'm using the right stuff
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19:12<melancholia>the heat is located mostly in hd
19:12<ompaul>if the drivers are nvidia ones and you are still having heat issues I have to think the machine is being asked to do too much use lxde or xfce or some light desktop to try and get more out of the card
19:12<ompaul>it is at least worth a test
19:13<melancholia>Using XFCE
19:13<melancholia>best choice apart from mate
19:13<ompaul>that's one idea dead
19:13<ompaul>is wheezy just too much ... what happens when you turn off X
19:13<ompaul>does it go nuts or cool down
19:14<SamB>maybe avoiding the outdoors
19:14<melancholia>I've to try the levels
19:14<ompaul>that too
19:14<melancholia>outdoors ?
19:14<SamB>or are we talking about that other hemisphere they tell me exists
19:15<ompaul>this one is north
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19:15<melancholia>the lap is mostly at home and I just finish to clean it all inside
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19:16<melancholia>but I'll try the levels idea, never crossed my mind
19:17<melancholia>and meanwhile install another distro aside to test
19:17<melancholia>I'm positvly sure on squeeze was cooler
19:17<toli>hello, I use wheezy as a router, when I change /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/all/forwarding to 1 it makes it 0 after reboot, what is the problem ?
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19:23<PaulePanter>Hi. Is there a repository with Debian packages for trying the Radeon UVD (hardware video decoding) stuff?
19:23<PaulePanter>That means Linux 3.10… and Mesa 9.2?
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19:28<Jason>If anybody has 5 minutes to spare, could you install and try the game "a7xpg" from the main repos (of wheezy) and just see if you can move the spaceship? I can't get the spaceship to move and filled debian bug #714399... trying to see if others have a problem moving the ship or if it's just me. (Don't use IRC often at all, so if there's a better place for this, be glad to be pointed to it.)
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19:35<Jason>hi, adga
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19:44<Haaninjo>Jason: steering in a7xpg works fine here.
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19:46<toli__>Sorry guys my line dropped. I don't know if anyone one answered my question ?
19:47<toli__>It was
19:47<toli__>hello, I use wheezy as a router, when I change /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/all/forwarding to 1 it makes it 0 after reboot, what is the problem ?
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19:49<blast007>!sysctl
19:49<dpkg>sysctl.conf is a method of setting Linux kernel variables (such as those found in /proc/sys) early on in boot using sysctl(8). See the sysctl.conf man page for details; the procps init script applies settings from this file.
19:49<blast007>toli__: ^
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19:52<toli__>thanks blast007
19:52<PaulePanter>Jason: a7xpg works fine for me too. I can control it with the keyboard keys.
19:52<PaulePanter>*arrow keys
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19:52<Jason>okay... thank you Hanninjo and PaulePanter.... perhaps it's a hardware problem....
19:53<PaulePanter>I am using a “normal“ AMD x86 system and a USB keyboard.
19:53<Jason>AH! that's a good idea... I can try my USB keyboard in my drawer too
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19:57<Jason>Nope... the spaceship just moves to the upperleft on its own volition.... thanks again, PaulePanter and Hanninjo
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20:33<ardex>I still got a fatal error trying to install nvidia glx over nouveau. "Could not connect to x server" ? i dunno
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20:36<ardex>nouveau works.
20:38*ardex is going to offtopic
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20:39<ardex>enough is enough.
20:39<ardex>.beer all
20:39<ardex>no beer/
20:40*ardex oops
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20:43<autistence>Anyone here work with subsonic?
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22:21<enrique4s>hello guys
22:22<enrique4s>anyone here ?
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22:35<adga>hello enrique4s
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23:07<xfwfw>hi
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23:08<xfwfw>how do I change the source of a source package?
23:08<xfwfw>I tried and it told me to do dpkg-source --commit, and now it want me to save a patch file
23:08<xfwfw>would it also upload it?
23:08<xfwfw>It is just a test
23:08<xfwfw>why does it do all these formal stuff?
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23:37<kingsley>xfwfw: What (command line?) utility are you using?
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23:54<apm1>say lads if i dd'd my "/" on an external HD and install grub on it afterwards
23:55<apm1>should work in atleast in theory right ?
23:56<apm1>meh why do i even bother asking
23:56<apm1>nvm lads
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