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00:38<phorce1>stderr_dk: so far no combination of copy-dest or compare-dest appears to be stopping the transfer of a file that exists /work/complete/av/bobw/ on the source machine and is in /work/incoming/ on the destination machine. I can't get it to just copy/move the file from {DEST}/work/incoming/file.doc to {DEST}/work/complete/av/bobw/file.doc it always wants to re-transfer from {SRC}/work/complete/av/bobw/file.doc to {DEST}/work/complete/av/bobw/file.doc then delete
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00:40<SamB>then delete what?
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00:41<stderr_dk>{DEST}/work/incoming/file.doc would be my guess.
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00:41<SamB>probably should rsync smaller trees first
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00:42<SamB>like, just .../work/complete with .../work/incoming as a compare-dest ?
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00:44<DougDOG>Olá
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00:47<phorce1>And this is one of those switches that is so seldom used that the only google references Ifind are copies of the man page
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00:56<phorce1>crap, it does seem to work a single directory down. That means I would have to build a command line containing each level of the tree as a --copy-dest= argument. Hmmm, lemm try one other test.
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01:00<bullgard4>[Debian 7.1] '~$ file /usr/lib/iceweasel/xulrunner/plugin-container; /usr/lib/iceweasel/xulrunner/plugin-container: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.26, BuildID[sha1]=0x193224100bbe1913f918447d24ded67382fda664, stripped.' How can I find out from what Package is this executable file? "~$ apt-cache search 'plugin_containe
01:00<bullgard4>r'" does not produce any output
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01:01<stderr_dk>apt-file search ...
01:02<stderr_dk>dpkg -S ...
01:02<dpkg>You Fool! ... is installed!
01:04<stderr_dk>bullgard4: Those two commands was for you...
01:05<phorce1>nope, can only get it to work for a single directory deep
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01:32<nocturna1>hey I'm trying to learn how to package a deb file so I'm looking at another similar deb file that someone else packaged, and it has no debian directory when i extract it. it only has the various root directories that it installs, like etc, usr, var.
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01:34<nocturnal>so I'm wondering if this is a good method to pack a prebuilt binary executable. if it's still possible to uninstall this deb with apt-get?
01:34<nocturnal>since it has no scripts
01:34<nocturnal>or rules
01:34<SamB>nocturnal: you want to look at the source package
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01:42<bullgard4>stderr_dk: Thank you very much for your help.
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01:46<nocturnal>SamB: there is none, this is re-packaged ibm software
01:47<nocturnal>IBM provides no deb package so we re-packaged it. and now our old package does not work in wheezy
01:47<nocturnal>so I must make a new one
01:47<nocturnal>I've already installed the software manually, so I have all the steps down
01:47<SamB>nocturnal: you can have a source package even without having source code
01:47<nocturnal>but I just have to turn those steps into a deb
01:48<SamB>the source package would be the thing you run dpkg-buildpackage on
01:48<nocturnal>ok well I'm reading the debian administrator's manual and it says I can get away with just using dh_make and dh_install
01:48<nocturnal>debhelper commands
01:48<nocturnal>and I was about to write the rules file, when I noticed the old deb had no rules
01:48<SamB>well, deb files don't have rules
01:49<nocturnal>ok
01:49<SamB>they're created from source packages, which do
01:49<nocturnal>so how does apt-get know how to uninstall them? does it just keep track of all the files it installs? like dpkg-deb -c list?
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01:50<SamB>dpkg keeps track of most of the files installed, and a few might be managed by the scripts that ARE in a .deb
01:50<dpkg>SamB: what are you talking about?
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01:50<SamB>not THIS dpkg, the program
01:50<nocturnal>scripts? where would those be if I have no debian dir?
01:50<SamB>maintainer scripts; not every package has them
01:51<nocturnal>well it doesn't matter really, I think I can get away with just using the bare minimum layout. since I know where every lib needs to go
01:51<nocturnal>just the binary deb file layout that is, no source package
01:51<SamB>anyway you should ask about this on #debian-mentors
01:51<nocturnal>ok
01:51<nocturnal>thanks for the help. I think you've done enough already, I'm going to try to package my new install in the old way
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01:51<nocturnal>and see if that works
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01:55<nocturnal>ooh, the manual for dpkg-deb explained something I didn't quite grasp. the control files are missing because dpkg-deb -b removes them
01:56<nocturnal>so that means the control files used to create our old package are gone forever
01:57<stderr_dk>Do you still have the .deb file?
01:58<nocturnal>yes, oh I see what you mean. I can extract it from the meta data of the deb
01:58<stderr_dk>ar x foobar.deb && tar zxkf control.tar.gz control
01:58<nocturnal>great, thanks
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03:03<Drunken>Hello
03:03<Osiris_X>hi
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03:04<nardev>hello, i have some strange problem with colors when playing video it's like this http://www.nardev.org/_temp/colors.png and it's same whatever player i use. I'm on squeeze
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03:05<nardev>what i installed wrong?
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03:24<Drunken>anyone there ?
03:24<phillipsjk>no.
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03:32<Thorgrin>hi, why do I get "No candidate version found for libimage-exiftool-perl" when trying to install the package?
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03:33<Thorgrin>I did aptitude update, sources are pointed to main, contrib and non-free repositories
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03:37<devil>Thorgrin: it exists in stable and unstable
03:38<devil>in main
03:40<devil>testing is not in my list, so no clue
03:40<Thorgrin>i do have oldstable
03:40<Thorgrin>I'm going to upgrade soon, but i just wanted the one package, that should be available and it is not
03:41<devil>Thorgrin: is in oldstable as well: http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=libimage-exiftool-perl&searchon=names&suite=oldstable§ion=all
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03:41<xubuntu>hi all
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03:41<xubuntu>Im xubuntu
03:41<xubuntu>im your admin bitches
03:42<xubuntu>Kill Windows !!!!!!
03:42<xubuntu>Neverone want windows
03:42<xubuntu>Someone want CS?
03:42<devil>go play elsewhere
03:42<xubuntu>ok.
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03:44<Thorgrin>devil: ok, figured it out. I had APT::Default-Release "stable"; in my configuration
03:44<Thorgrin>I just forgot to change that to squeeze
03:44<devil>:)
03:44<Thorgrin>thanks
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03:48<phillipsjk>nardev, searching brought this up: http://askubuntu.com/questions/20319/videos-have-blue-faces-when-i-play-them (take with grain of salt since those answers are for Unbuntu)
03:48<nardev>phillipsjk, it seems that i couldn't guess the right term for my problem
03:48<nardev>thank you
03:49<nardev>i'll try
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03:49<phillipsjk>Are you using binary drivers for nvidia?
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03:50<nardev>phillipsjk, i just downloaded last version few days ago from nvidia.com
03:51<nardev>phillipsjk, aaaa :D yes it helped :D
03:52<nardev>hue
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03:53<nardev>phillipsjk, thank you one more time
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03:56<wvdakker>Hi, is it a known issue that after a the update on monday 1-7 gnome will only start in fallback mode? I have a Radeon graphics card.
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03:57<wvdakker>starting in normal mode the panel/menu is not started, only have a blanc screen
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04:22<MoodyBlues>hi there.
04:22<MoodyBlues>can somebody help me?
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04:23<MoodyBlues>i need help guys :(
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04:23<bluewater>MoodyBlues: just state your issue and someone will help if they can
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04:24<MoodyBlues>OK, I have Compaq CQ58 Notebook and my wireless doesn't working with debian at all
04:24<MoodyBlues>my wireless push button is always light off
04:24<MoodyBlues>and i have no idea what to do
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04:25<bluewater>often firmware for wifi is in contrib or non-free, do you have them enabled in your sources?
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04:26<MoodyBlues>my wifi is just working with windows 8
04:26<MoodyBlues>doesn't working with any linux distr.
04:26<MoodyBlues>so problem is not with debian
04:27<bluewater>thplease reread my comment
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04:27<MoodyBlues>enabled in your sources? i can't understand
04:27<MoodyBlues>what do you mean
04:28<bluewater>!sources
04:28<dpkg>A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 7.0 "Wheezy" has 3 lines: "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main" "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy-updates main". Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <wheezy/updates> <wheezy-updates> <mirrors> <apt-spy> and "man sources.list".
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04:29<MoodyBlues>i have no idea, sorry my linux experience isn't so good. and actually i don't have debian, i have crunchbang...
04:29<MoodyBlues>my problem: http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=27555
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04:31<devil>!crunchbang
04:31<dpkg>CrunchBang Linux is a Live CD distribution originally based on <Ubuntu>, now based on Debian as of version 10, featuring the <Openbox> window manager. It is not supported in #debian. http://www.crunchbang.org/ #crunchbang on irc.freenode.net. See <based on debian>.
04:31<devil>MoodyBlues: ^
04:32<MoodyBlues>oh well, i see but if you can help me i can use debian too, i tried debian too, there is same problem in debian...
04:33<MoodyBlues>wifi is not working at all
04:33<MoodyBlues>what can i do?
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04:33<bluewater>i would say that is because your sources do no contain contrib and non-free in the deb line
04:33<devil>MoodyBlues: we can not help you
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04:34<MoodyBlues>so what can i do? and why you can't help me
04:34<devil>MoodyBlues: because you use crunchbang
04:34<MoodyBlues>is there any solution with debian
04:34<devil>go to their channel please
04:35<MoodyBlues>no,
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04:35<MoodyBlues>i am using debian too
04:35<MoodyBlues>there is same problem in debian
04:35<devil>well, we do not know ypour problem. if you do not describe it
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04:35<devil>we do not even know your device and chip
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04:36<MoodyBlues>i am describing,
04:36<devil>and I have to return to work anyways
04:36<MoodyBlues>could you please look my driver
04:36<devil>MoodyBlues: we need facts
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05:34<rah_>I've built a kernel using this command: "make-kpkg --initrd --arch-in-name --revision $revision_string --append-to-version -$version_string kernel_image"
05:34<rah_>unfortunately when I try to install the resulting .deb, dpkg reports this error and fails:
05:35<rah_>run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postinst.d/initramfs 3.10.0-linux-3.0-latest-59 /boot/vmlinuz-3.10.0-linux-3.0-latest-59
05:35<rah_>mv: cannot stat boot/initrd.img-3.10.0-linux-3.0-latest-59': No such file or directory
05:35<rah_>run-parts: /etc/kernel/postinst.d/initramfs exited with return code 1
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05:37<ardex>that may be a policy issue. Just guessing.
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05:37<rah>ardex: what do you mean?
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05:38<ardex>rah: I had a similar error returned when trying to set up an SSL certificate. It would not open the file where the cert was located.
05:39<ardex>check the flags
05:39<rah>ardex: you're talking about permissions?
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05:40<ardex>policy is permissions. I run my machine as both admin and user, so I have this frequently.
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05:41<rah>I don't think this is a problem with permissions
05:41<ardex>just guessing.
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05:45<rah>the problem was some errant /etc/kernel/post{inst,rm}.d/initramfs files
05:45<rah>which neither dpkg or myself know about
05:45<rah>most odd
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05:47<ardex>odd is statistically valid
05:47<gnugr>rah:kernel 3.10 exists in experimental
05:47<ardex>Murphy's law
05:48<rah>gnugr: I build my own kernels
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05:52<ardex>If'n it was me, I'd probably run a file compare if the exists a good copy.
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05:58<rah>ardex: are you addressing me?
05:58<ardex>no. thinking out loud
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05:58<rah>I see
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06:11<nocturnal>it's sort of sad that the more debian is localized in my local language, the more I'm considering changing the locale to en_US.
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06:11<nocturnal>because there is no way I can get any results googling swedish errors
06:11<nocturnal>yet I still want a swedish layout and characters in my shell
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06:14<ardex>nocturnal: popcon is a system demand determinator in the sense that the demand rules by numbers. Quantity first then quality. (I think)
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06:31<MoodyBlues>hey
06:31<MoodyBlues>anybody there?
06:32<ardex>zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
06:32<devil>nope, noone here
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06:34<babilen>dpkg: tell nocturnal -about localised errors
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06:35<nocturnal>thanks
06:35<babilen>nocturnal: Just default to Swedish and get the English errors as they arise (if they are easy to reproduce) by switching to English temporarily. And surely you want en_GB and not en_US ;)
06:35<nocturnal>yes, yes I do
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06:50<MoodyBlues>hey i want to install debian but my machine is uefi
06:50<MoodyBlues>and windows 8
06:50<MoodyBlues>i don't want to uninstall windows 8
06:50<MoodyBlues>how can i do?
06:51<babilen>MoodyBlues: You just install it, Debian installer support UEFI
06:51<babilen>dpkg: tell MoodyBlues -about install Debian
06:52<devil>MoodyBlues: I thought you had debian?
06:52<babilen>MoodyBlues: I would, in particular, recommend to use the installer with firmware (ask the bot about <firmware image>)
06:52<babilen>(that is if you have a working internet connection during the installation)
06:53<MoodyBlues>babilen thanks for your respond. actually there is another thing
06:53<MoodyBlues>such as
06:53<MoodyBlues>my wifi connection is not working with any linux distr. so i first must install debian
06:53<MoodyBlues>after installing, i must install atheros
06:53<MoodyBlues>package
06:53<MoodyBlues>firmware
06:53<MoodyBlues>so i don't have internet connection
06:53<MoodyBlues>during installation
06:53<babilen>dpkg: enter
06:53<dpkg>The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel.
06:54<MoodyBlues>dpkg:
06:54<dpkg>MoodyBlues: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
06:54<MoodyBlues>dpkg
06:54<MoodyBlues>what the heck
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06:54<babilen>MoodyBlues: The firmware installer contains that firmware already or you could download it separately and provide it on a USB stick. (or on the second partition if you install from usb) -- you can find the firmware archive that you can unpack to the stick at http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/firmware/wheezy/current/
06:55<babilen>MoodyBlues: dpkg is a bot not a real human
06:55<MoodyBlues>i know he is a bot lol
06:57<babilen>dpkg: tell MoodyBlues -about installer firmware
06:57<babilen>dpkg: tell MoodyBlues -about usb install
06:57<babilen>(for some background on what I referred to above)
06:57<MoodyBlues>no i can install with dvd
06:57<MoodyBlues>my flash disc currently doesn't work with boot idk why
06:58<babilen>The DVD will *not* contain firmware and you will have to provide it on a USB stick if you want to install it during the installation. (if, for example, you have to use your wifi during the installation)
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06:59<MoodyBlues>oh i understand. but i just can boot dvd.
06:59<MoodyBlues>i have flash disc 8 gb
06:59<MoodyBlues>i can put firmwares flash or hdd
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07:01<MoodyBlues>babilen, are you there?
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07:03<MoodyBlues>pardus, do you know pardus distro ?
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07:04<pardus>yes
07:04<MoodyBlues>so are you turk?
07:04<MoodyBlues>i hope sooo
07:04<pardus>yes
07:04<MoodyBlues>omg
07:04<MoodyBlues>tamam
07:04<MoodyBlues>türkçe konuşalım?
07:04<pardus>olur
07:04<MoodyBlues>ya bak
07:04<devil>MoodyBlues: english only please
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07:04<MoodyBlues>acil yardıma ihtiyacım var
07:04<MoodyBlues>ok i can talk with pm
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07:05<pardus>ok
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07:08<MoodyBlues>i see 4 dvd what the heck
07:08<MoodyBlues>dvd-1, dvd-2, dvd-3
07:09<MoodyBlues>all of them required?
07:10<nocturnal>no, I use the netinstall personally but that requires a network connection.
07:11<MoodyBlues>problem is that...
07:11<MoodyBlues>i don't have internet connection during install
07:11<MoodyBlues>because my wifi card doesn't support
07:12<nocturnal>you can load any drivers you want during a netinstall.
07:12<rufff>you only need the first dvd
07:13<nocturnal>but I've never done an install over wifi. I've only loaded ethernet drivers myself.
07:13<MoodyBlues>nocturnal but i don't have internet connection during install
07:13<OdyX>MoodyBlues: you can do a minimal, no-network installation with CD-1 (or DVD-1), then boot the real Debian and setup networking there.
07:14<MoodyBlues>really?
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07:16<MoodyBlues>hey guys can we uninstall debian?
07:16<MoodyBlues>if i want to uninstall debian
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07:17<Calinou>MoodyBlues: you just format your hard drive?
07:17<MoodyBlues>but i don't want to uninstall windows 8
07:17<MoodyBlues>currently installed
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07:18<movl>just format the partition Debian' son
07:18<movl>*Debian's on
07:18<MoodyBlues>but boot settings etc?
07:19<MoodyBlues>so what the heck my boot settings etc? if want to uninstall debian; what'll going on
07:19<MoodyBlues>:D
07:20<rufff>use a windows dvd to restore your bootloader; not a Debian question
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07:22<MoodyBlues>but i don't have windows dvd, actually i don't need too. i am asking because i want to try debian but if happens any error etc. so i probably want to uninstall debian. after that, my grub boot loader etc probably fucked up. after that, probably i can't open windows 8 again lol
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07:23<MoodyBlues>sorry for my dumbest english
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09:02<buffoon_work>Hi! When setting error_reporting in /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini I still get "Strict Standards:" errors. Do I set that value in the right place? (Using apache2 as web server and the homepage runs on joomla)
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10:13<marciano>find users-admin on debian 7 ?
10:13<marciano>no find users-admin on debian 7 ?
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10:15<b1z24rR0n3>hi all, anyone use proxmox?
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10:16<b1z24rR0n3>or use vlans ? I need help to configure a lot of vlans on a server. could anyone help me?
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10:21<lokie>b1z24rR0n3
10:21<lokie>i use vlans with gns3
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10:38<danlii>When I try to mount Windows share on a samba server with security=ADS, it seems like the "Connect to server" gui tool won't use the domain even though I type it in the "Domain name" box. It just says "Please verify your user details". This used to work before some updates. I need to use the gui because of reasons. Is there a solution to this?
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10:40<kent>has anyone heard about the new mintbox?
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10:40<movl>what's mintbox?
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10:41<babilen>Clearly a box for mints!
10:42<kent>the Linux Mint devs made their own computer running Linux Mint
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10:43<babilen>kent: I would assume that you find more people in the mint channel that are familiar with that project rather than in #debian
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10:45<kent>oh oops
10:45<kent>sorry
10:45<babilen>No problem :-D
10:45<kent>:D
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11:32<EmleyMoor>Does vnc2swf in wheezy support creating mpeg video?
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11:44<alexis_>Hello all, i am trying to run a live usb of "debian-7.1.0-amd64-lxde-CD-1.iso" with no success at all. Tried Untbootin, multisystem and dd. Is there any way to run that iso live and avoid downloading the hybrid image?
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11:49<thiagopriest>someone has already done testing IPv6 with Debian? (networks production)
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11:51<stderr_dk>thiagopriest: "Works for me"...
11:54<thiagopriest>stderr_dk: I see that you have a native IPv6
11:55<stderr_dk>alexis_: Are you sure that's a live CD?
11:56<thiagopriest>stderr_dk: what is your ISP?
11:56<stderr_dk>thiagopriest: It's a HE-tunnel to Sweden.
11:56<alexis_>stderr_dk: it is not a live cd
11:56<alexis_>can i do it live anyways?
11:57<stderr_dk>alexis_: I don't think so.
11:57<stderr_dk>http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/
11:58<thiagopriest>stderr_dk: you have a /64?
11:58<stderr_dk>Yes.
11:58<thiagopriest>cool
11:59<alexis_>okay thanks stderr_dk
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12:02<stderr_dk>thiagopriest: I got the tunnel at http://tunnelbroker.net/
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12:04<thiagopriest>stderr_dk: what kind of tunnel creates this service?
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12:06<stderr_dk>IPv6-in-IPv4
12:06<thiagopriest>6to4?
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12:07<stderr_dk>I can't remember if that's the same thing.
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12:07<maher>how do i build i386 packages on amd64?
12:08<maher>...preferably with dpkg-buldpackage or something...
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12:12<thiagopriest>stderr_dk: what is the cost of this tunnel?
12:12<stderr_dk>0. :-)
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12:13<thiagopriest>Very good.
12:13<stderr_dk>Very affordable...
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12:27<thiagopriest>stderr_dk: test newbie, haha
12:28<stderr_dk>?
12:28<thiagopriest>IPv6 Certification
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12:29<stderr_dk>Is that your rank? Mine used to be a bit higher.
12:30<thiagopriest>no, I just do the first test, very easy
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12:55<thiagopriest>stderr_dk: with my IPv4 address can not create tunnel
12:55<stderr_dk>Why not?
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12:57<thiagopriest>because the address of my ISP blocks ICMP
12:58<stderr_dk>:-(
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13:00<thiagopriest>but this is the number 2084:10:5::80:23 in my web page, and I'm happy
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13:13<EmleyMoor>Is there a way to get a representation of the current time in a shell script, to then use it as part of a filename?
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13:16<stanislav>hi all!
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13:17<blast007>EmleyMoor: DATETIME=$(date +%Y-%m-%d-%H%M%S) (and then you can just refer to $DATETIME later in your script)
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13:19<lalala>join #crunchbang
13:20<EmleyMoor>lalala: No thanks
13:20<lalala>yeah sorry just trying some stuff I havent been in irc for years :)
13:20<lalala>so dont really remember even the basic commands
13:21<EmleyMoor>You need a / before a command
13:21<lalala>well it doesnt matter theres no such channel to room or whatever their called
13:21<lalala>thanks anyways
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13:24<lalala>but if Im here maybe Ill ask, and am not sure this is the right forum but I wanted to install nixnote but it seems that there is a new-er libssl is there anyway to install both libssl 0.9.8 and libssl1.?
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13:37<wompa>lalala, this is the OFTC IRC network, Crunchbang has a channel at the Freenode network
13:38<fy>@@
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13:38<eth>hi
13:38<eth>is there anybody for my kali linux question ?
13:39<lalala>ok thanks :)
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13:39<mshuler>perhaps #kali{somethingorother}, eth
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13:40<eth>which one do you prefer for me kali linux or blackubuntu ?
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13:40<eth>#kali
13:40<eth>?
13:40<movl>eth, we prefer Debian, this is a Debian channel
13:40<mshuler>I prefer debian
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13:40<eth>why ?
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13:43<mshuler>the community, hardware support, stable or bleeding edge versions, options for most every major component - mission critical cluster infrastructure to my dev laptop; debian works very well
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13:43<movl>he left, don't bother :)
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13:44*mshuler ignores joins/parts, etc..
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13:44<mshuler>but maybe someone else cares - probably not, though.. :)
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13:50<infrid>hi
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14:46<iDrago>Hey
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15:17<iDrago>Hey everybody
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15:17<iDrago>i need your help
15:17<iDrago>for my VPS
15:18<retrospectacus>!ask
15:18<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
15:18<iDrago>!ask
15:18<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
15:18<iDrago>ok
15:19<iDrago>so i want to connect with Putty in root to my VPS
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15:20<iDrago>and i get : Access denied
15:20<iDrago>after password
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15:20<geekbrit>Hi iDrago, what OS are you running on your VPS?
15:20<retrospectacus>iDrago: how can we help?
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15:21<sney>!enter
15:21<dpkg>The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel.
15:22<iDrago>Hi geekbrit, Debian 6
15:22<iDrago>64 bits
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15:22<iDrago>@retrospectacus: solve this problem
15:22<geekbrit>you probably have to install openssh-server
15:23<geekbrit>if you are unable to get in via ssh, your VPS service provider may have a webpage terminal that gives youe a simulated ssh terminal window
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15:23<retrospectacus>if it asks for the password, ssh-server is installed. If it says Access denied then you entered the wrong password. If you are sure you entered the right one, only the VPS provider can help you
15:23<stderr_dk>If the server asks for a password, openssh-server is probably already installed.
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15:25<iDrago>yeah already
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15:25<iDrago>but i change by 123456 the password and same result
15:25<iDrago>so i don't understand
15:26<retrospectacus>you may have set PermitRootLogin No in /etc/ssh/sshd_config or have a disk error or disk full, are other possible problems
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15:27<geekbrit>The vps system user password is probably different from the vps service provider login password - you're using the correct one?
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15:28<iDrago>@retrospectacus
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15:28<iDrago>already check it's on yes
15:29<iDrago>@geekbrit: yeah i can change the root password so i change to 123456 to see
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15:29<iDrago>yeah different
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15:31<iDrago>i don't know what doing right now
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15:32<iDrago>if you've an idea
15:34<stderr_dk>Can you log in as yourself and then use su or sudo to become root? If so, maybe you could install a ssh-key. The password wouldn't be used, so it won't matter if you're changing the right password or not.
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15:38<h2>does anyone know if marillat of deb-multimedia is on irc, and if so, where?
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15:39<knoppixynwb>hey does debian uses the linux libre kernel?
15:39<iDrago>no it's the first time i run this VPS so no user has been created
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15:46<iDrago>i leave guys
15:46<iDrago>thanks you for your help
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15:56<Pantho>howdy.
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15:56<Pantho>Would anyone mind offering me some help regarding iptables?
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15:57<Pantho>Specifically what in this a rulelist is causing ssh to be blocked & explanation of the order of rules etc.
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16:00<Pryon>Pantho: Are you going to put the ruleset in the pastebin?
16:00<Pantho>it's via kvm, img ok?
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16:00<Pryon>better than nothing :)
16:00<Pantho>sorry rules be: http://bybservers.co.uk/sharex/pantho/2013-07-02_20-59-28.png
16:01<Pantho>I've tested by flooding myself with packets from remote port udp 53 and they where not blocked properly.
16:01<Pantho>I'm thinking it might be to do with the placement of the "ACCEPT all" rule.
16:01<Pantho>But I don't really know much about the inner workings of iptables.
16:01<Pryon>whichever rule matches first is the one used
16:02<Pryon>Since your policy on INPUT is ACCEPT, that rule is unnecessary
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16:02<Pantho>,i d,id tr,y re,mov,ing t,he accept al,l, to, t,he bo,tto,m of t,he l,ist b,ut t,he,n ,iptab,les bl,o,c,ked al,l, access
16:02<judd>No package named 'd,id' was found in wheezy/i386.
16:03<Pantho>a,nd o,,h f,uc,k ,my ,ke,ybo,ard bro,ke aga,in
16:03<retrospectacus>the 5th rule, everything matches and is accepted, the rest are never used
16:03<retrospectacus>haha
16:03<Pantho>Pl,ease fo,rg,ive t,his ,ugl,y text., So, re,mov,ing t,hat a,ccept al,l, r,ule s,hould wo,r,k f,ine?
16:03<Pantho><I've ,kv,m access ,if al,l, go,es afo,ul a,nyway.,
16:04<retrospectacus>you should remove it... whether "all should work fine" afterward is subjective
16:04<Pantho>Hitting the keyboard often helps. spilt a drnk today awaiting a replacement tommorow.
16:04<Pantho>And thanks I'll go give it a try now.
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16:05<Pryon>From what I can see, as long as you're not in any of the networks blocked in rules 2-4, you'll match the drop all at the bottom
16:06<Pantho>Those are amazon servers.
16:06<Pryon>penultimate rule blocks all TCP traffic, no?
16:06<Pantho>which rule?
16:06<Pryon>2nd to last
16:06<Pantho>hmmm that should be tcp syn rate limit
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16:06<Pryon>with those flags, of course (what are those flags?)
16:07<Pantho>tcp syn.
16:07<Pryon>Are you getting SYN floods? If not, consider removing that rule and retesting
16:07<Pantho>sometimes but if the firewall fails I'll try that
16:09<Pantho>perfect :)
16:10<Pantho>I didn't remove the tcp rule but edited it to only effect the port our service runs on which is 99% udp. Only really tcp for admin stuff which is rare and can be done via ssh anyway.
16:10<Pantho>Thank thee :)
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16:10<Pryon>Hey, I'm happy to guess at stuff all day :)
16:10<Pantho>How to fix keybuild full of soda?
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16:11<Pantho>Although I've a new one arriving via amazon exrepss tomorrow anyway... this is why I buy £10 keyboards :(
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16:14<Pryon>http://www.ruggedtech.com/Sealshield%20SSK107%20washable%20keyboard.html
16:14<Pryon>Wow. Machine washable
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16:16<retrospectacus>I've washed a few keyboards, sometimes it works ;)
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16:30<ekiwok>I have issue with connecting to my VPS via ssh after squeezee to wheezy upgrade, some pasta: http://pastebin.com/zW8tiMAw http://pastebin.com/D7L4F4aS
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16:34<nezZario>Apparently i've went retarded
16:34<nezZario>If I want to do manual partitioning, I need /boot first, then swap/root ?
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16:35<nezZario>running install now and i setup /boot first partition as 256mb ext2 .. / second as 20G, and 16G of swap.. I want the rest of the 3TB drive to use LVM (I selected "partition as a LVM disk" or whatever it says)
16:35<nezZario>but then it would not install grub?
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16:37<retrospectacus>nezZario: are you saying grub install failed?
16:37<nezZario>yeah, no specific error, just said something similar to "Grub has failed to install on /dev/sda"
16:37<nezZario>i notice when i choose automatic partioning on the disk the first partition calls itself "biosgrub"
16:37<nezZario>im just going to choose the auto partitioning and modify it ..
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16:48<ekiwok> I have issue with connecting to my VPS via ssh after squeezee to wheezy upgrade, some pasta: http://pastebin.com/zW8tiMAw http://pastebin.com/D7L4F4aS
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16:50<retrospectacus>ekiwok: you will need to access the VPS by some other method to continue
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17:08<titilalinux>hola
17:08<retrospectacus>hello
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17:21<ekiwok>retrospectacus, what other method for example?
17:21<ekiwok>retrospectacus, netcat FE?
17:22<ekiwok>retrospectacus, other client?
17:22<retrospectacus>no; physical access or something out-of-band like KVM console provided by the VPS host
17:23<maude>hello
17:23<retrospectacus>hi maude
17:23<ekiwok>retrospectacus, I cannot do it any other, I have only remote access via ssh, I can restore to squeezee if you know how can I upgrade and avoid this
17:24<retrospectacus>ekiwok: nope, no idea, since we cannot tell what the problem is
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17:25<ekiwok>I think problem is client because it sends 0 rsa keys
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17:25<ekiwok>debug3: load_hostkeys: loading entries for host "xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" from file "/home/ekiwok/.ssh/known_hosts"
17:25<ekiwok>debug3: load_hostkeys: loaded 0 keys
17:25<retrospectacus>that doesn't matter
17:26<ekiwok>so I'm affraid I stuck with squeezee :(
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17:26<retrospectacus>ekiwok: talk to the VPS provider, maybe they can upgrade it for you
17:26<retrospectacus>ekiwok: some VPS types cannot be upgrade because they run the same kernel as the host
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17:27<ekiwok>retrospectacus, mhm, but panel claims server with services (after upgrade) is running and other services (like apache) works fine after reboot
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17:28<ekiwok>retrospectacus, I'll try tomorrow make some kind of bootstrap via php and jquery to run some bash commands after upgrade avoiding ssh?
17:28<retrospectacus>but the panel provides no console access via java applet or anything?
17:29<ekiwok>retrospectacus, this console is Java applet that does only ssh root@ip :/
17:29<retrospectacus>FTP access might help if you can read the auth.log or syslog
17:29<ekiwok>retrospectacus, it's cheap provider... :|
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17:30<ekiwok>retrospectacus, do you know is it safe to use squeezee now?
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17:35<retrospectacus>well, it's ok, yeah... it will no longer be supported, updated or receive any security support anymore
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17:43<ekiwok>retrospectacus, thanks I'll try to get access some other way or, sadly, change to CentOS :(
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17:44<retrospectacus>just submit a ticket to the provider: cannot access by SSH; please fix
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18:14<Rado>Moin. During my X(org) session with icewm + xterm I noticed that my xmodmap has been reset. I was cleaning up my packages with aptitude. Is there some routine calling setxkbmap or xmodmap to reset a current remap?
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22:30<export>hi i have sucessfully install debian on my machine and i'm just wondering where i could get hlep with an issue with the bootup process
22:31<export>installed* help*
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22:31<sney>ask your question and if it's not appropriate for here we will redirect you
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22:32<export>okay then well when i turn on my machine sometimes (sometimes a lot in a row and sometimes not at all) it switches to a black screen in which i can blindly login and use the system blindly but no picture
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