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#debian IRC Logs for 2013-07-05

---Logopened Fri Jul 05 00:00:51 2013
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00:51<ryan516>Hello
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00:52<ryan516>Is there a way I can save my Debian as a Live CD ISO including all files and settings?
00:57<SamB>I think there actually is
00:57<SamB>though fitting it on a *CD* might be stretching it
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00:59<SamB>unfortunately I can't remember what it's called :-(
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01:14<ryan516>I'm back
01:14<ryan516>I got kicked from the IRC Network and didn't realize :P
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01:30<DIIP>help can be found on backtrack here ??
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02:23<aditya>hi
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03:02<swiftkey>hello there
03:02<swiftkey>i cant edit the txt under /etc/resolve.conf
03:02<swiftkey>says permission not permited
03:02<swiftkey>im root
03:05<david>either run: sudo nano /etc/resolve.conf
03:05<david>or: su -
03:06<david>then: nano /etc/resolve.conf
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03:06<dcraig>maybe you mean to edit /etc/resolv.conf
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03:06<swiftkey>yes edit
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03:06<dcraig>without that pesky E
03:07<swiftkey>still the same
03:07<swiftkey>im running as root
03:07<swiftkey> [ Error writing /etc/resolv.conf: Permission denied ]
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03:08<dcraig>what's the output of "ls -l /etc/resolv.conf"?
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03:09<swiftkey>ls -l /etc/resolv.conf
03:09<swiftkey>oops sorry
03:09<swiftkey>-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 59 Jul 5 08:55 /etc/resolv.conf
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03:10<dcraig>what is the output of "whoami"?
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03:11<swiftkey>root@samba4:~# whoami
03:11<swiftkey>root
03:11-!-david is now known as bAron^
03:11<dcraig>hey maybe your drive is mounted read-only :P
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03:11<swiftkey>hmm
03:11<swiftkey>how to check?
03:11<dcraig>can you edit other files in /etc?
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03:12<swiftkey>yes
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03:13<swiftkey>i can add a file
03:13<dcraig>fascinating
03:13<swiftkey>yes
03:13<swiftkey>wana try?
03:13<swiftkey>heh
03:13<dcraig>no
03:13<swiftkey>hmm
03:13<swiftkey>any suggestions
03:15<dcraig>I'm drawing a blank, man
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03:17<swiftkey>hmm
03:18<captnfab>swiftkey: what about "lsattr /etc/resolv.conf" ?
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03:19<swiftkey>root@samba4:/etc# lsattr /etc/resolv.conf
03:19<swiftkey>----i-------------- /etc/resolv.conf
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03:19<captnfab>:)
03:20<swiftkey>so how can i change it?
03:20<swiftkey>thanks
03:20<captnfab>chattr -i /etc/resolv.conf
03:20<captnfab>or maybe -i+e
03:20<captnfab>or just +e
03:20<captnfab>I never use that
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03:22<swiftkey>yes!
03:22<swiftkey>it worked!
03:22<swiftkey>thanks
03:22<captnfab>\o/
03:22<captnfab>yw
03:23<dcraig>:D
03:23<dcraig>I even learned something, too!
03:23<captnfab>now you should wonder why/how did the file get the immutable attribute :)
03:23<swiftkey>so thats it nothing to restart?
03:23<swiftkey>hmm other admins?
03:24<dcraig>I feel in general lots of distros are screwing around with /etc/resolv.conf these days
03:24<captnfab>ah, ok, yep
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03:25<swiftkey>but thanks a lot im just a new admin
03:25<swiftkey>heh
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03:27<swiftkey>hmm do i need to reboot
03:27<swiftkey>its our samba server ;?
03:28<dcraig>my experience has been that changes to resolv.conf take effect immediately
03:28<captnfab>yep, no need to reboot
03:28<swiftkey>ok
03:29<swiftkey>thanks
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04:42<Rado>tgs3, hi, too. ;)
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04:50<ase>welcome daniel
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04:56<nocturnal>!dpkg localized errors
04:56<dpkg>Rather than hoping that we recognise what has gone wrong from the error messages in your native language, please provide any error messages in English. You can do this by setting your locale to an English one (e.g. C) prior to running the command, e.g. «LC_ALL=C apt-get -f install»
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05:03<PaulePanter>↑ Is not `LANG=C` enough to get localized output?
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05:13<syn-attack>!md5bot gandung
05:14<syn-attack>md5bot gandung
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05:18<musca>PaulePanter: It is enough. That is exactly what the bot says.
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05:20<musca>oh, i was misreading the Varable name m(
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05:25<F-Hauri>Hello there,
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05:49<F-Hauri>I become crazy, trying to modify /lib/live/boot/9990-misc-helper.sh in initrd1.img: After boot, the file /lib/live/boot/9990-misc-helper.sh seem not modified...
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05:53<F-Hauri>I've done: zcat /lib/live/medium/live/initrd1.img | cpio -id, than find . -print0 | cpio -0 -H newc -o | gzip >/lib/live/medium/live/initrd1.img
05:54<F-Hauri>file /live/initrd1.img is correctly modified, but after boot, the file in /lib/live/boot/ is as not modified!...
05:54<F-Hauri>Where did this directory come from?
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05:58<F-Hauri>oops.... wrong channel... sorry!
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06:21<Donna>wompa: hej
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06:23<nuked>hey all, first time here :)
06:24<musca>welcome nuked
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06:25<nuked>just wondering, I have an open source software and would like to have it in debian packages... where should I look for information about the process?
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06:29<nevyn>nuked: debian-mentors has heaps of info about packaging and policy etc
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07:15<vladbadelita>I want to make my computer suspend itself after 20 minutes of no mouse/keyboard activity, but only if applications like torrent clients are not running. how can I do this?
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07:21<ompaul>vladbadelita: run a cron job that checks for programs you do not want to interfer with, if it finds none of them then it triggers a counter when the counter is at 19 and 45 seconds minutes it checks once more, throws a notice to the screen >> export DISPLAY=:0 && zenity --info --text "Olá" << with something like that if no reply to that then you get to use the cli from here http://wiki.debian.org/Suspend because of your requirement s2ram will need some
07:21<ompaul>serious looking at and you will TIAS
07:21<ompaul>!TIAS
07:21<dpkg>TIAS is "Try It And See".
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07:24<mgv>ompaul: but wouldn't that mean that he would have to answer a random zenity prompt every now and then?
07:24<ompaul>mgv: no
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07:24<ompaul>you fork that off
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07:25<mgv>how does he check whether there has been keyboard/mouse activity?
07:25<ompaul>it's to cause him to not suspend if he doesn't want to (that is a use case)
07:25<ompaul>the same way programs do
07:25<ompaul>depends on de
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07:25<ompaul>http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/49546/bash-script-to-detect-and-record-mouse-movements
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07:26<mgv>mm nice idea
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07:26<ompaul>yeah the internet is useful like that ;-)
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07:26<ompaul>there are similar for key strokes
07:26<ompaul>I thought that part was obvious :)
07:27<mgv>not for anyone
07:27<mgv>everyone*
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08:01<tgs3>captnfab: +i will amke file immutable, it will stop apps from changing it
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08:15<newto>Hello I could have the net pen 4g alcatel l100v but does not appear in the applet networkmananger debian 7 is normal?
08:16<Calinou>newto: missing firmware much
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08:17<ingi>Greetings, is there only English? Or there's somebody, who can help with advice on russian language?
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08:18<daemonkeeper>!ru
08:18<dpkg>Это английскоговорящий канал, пожалуйста, говорите по-английски или посетите #debian-russian (irc.freenode.net) (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian)
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08:19<ingi>thanks
08:19<newto>Calinou but i have that before :S
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08:19<SynrG>newto: does NM say "Unmanaged" for that interface?
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08:20<newto>hum gona check
08:20<newto>sorry
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08:20<SynrG>newto: and do you have a wlan0 stanza in /etc/network/interfaces? if you do, remove it.
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08:21<newto>only eth0
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08:21<tgs3>I somehow got into mess like this: http://paste2.org/ycdUAb3h when I try to aptitude install -f and even more when I try to install gnome. How to resolve this? E.g. remove all problem causing packages and later reinstall them
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08:21<newto>ok brb
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08:22<SynrG>!bat
08:22<dpkg>In order for us to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: The complete output of your apt-get/aptitude/dselect run (including the command you used); the output from apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2...; for the relevant packages and "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>.
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08:22<Maulkin>tgs3: Use apt-get instead?
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08:22<tgs3>Maulkin: oh.. it seems to work.. but why? is this a bug in aptitude, or does apt-get ignore some of my mess?
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08:23<SynrG>different resolvers, different strategies
08:24<ompaul>apt-get is not aptitude
08:24<ompaul>it does not try to resolve things
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08:24<ompaul>this is why as a dist-upgrade tool it works best
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08:24<ompaul>dist-upgrades are strange
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08:24<]leeloo[>Hi
08:25<]leeloo[>I try to convert a proxmox vm (guest debian 6) to a vmware esxi one.
08:25<]leeloo[>Here is my workflow summary http://pastebin.com/7BCrMK3v
08:25<]leeloo[>But I've got "Operating System not found" at start up.
08:25<]leeloo[>Thanks for the help :)
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08:25<]leeloo[>I try to convert a proxmox vm (guest debian 6) to a vmware esxi one.
08:25<]leeloo[>Here is my workflow summary http://pastebin.com/7BCrMK3v
08:25<]leeloo[>But I've got "Operating System not found" at start up.
08:25<]leeloo[>Thanks for the help :)
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08:25<ompaul>we saw that already
08:26<ompaul>you could have typed that on one line and got a better response
08:26<ompaul>!pastebin.com
08:26<dpkg>pastebin.com mangles input, takes forever to load, often makes us enter a CAPTCHA to see your paste and fills the screen with ads. Please use a different site, like http://paste.debian.net/
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08:26<]leeloo[>http://paste.debian.net/14531/
08:27<Maulkin>tgs3: aptitude tries to be clever. It sometimes fails to do so
08:28<SynrG>]leeloo[: because of your use of vmware, i wouldn't be able to reproduce your results. it is not in debian and not supported here.
08:28<SynrG>is it bootable in kvm before conversion?
08:29<ompaul>]leeloo[: this seems to have something may be of more use to you http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=1023592
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08:29<ompaul>]leeloo[: as SynrG said we don't support vmware here
08:29<]leeloo[>SynrG : can i check this directly on proxmox ?
08:29<]leeloo[>ompaul: I take a look
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08:30<SynrG>sorry, i have no idea what proxmox is.
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09:29<console3>#debian-offtopic
09:30<console3>ooops
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09:34<osfd>can you see me ?
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09:35<mgv>osfd: no
09:35<osfd>I was sure about that :)
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11:05<ahmed>hi
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11:06<ahmed>plz i use ubuntu 12.04 and want to install whosthere but didnt work
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11:07<ahmed>i used terminal command but cnt ...can you help?
11:08<mgv>!ubuntu
11:08<dpkg>Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>.
11:08<ahmed>ok thnks
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11:17<jgcampbell300>hello ... i was thinking of installing terminal multiplexer on xubuntu ... can anyone recommend a better multiplexer or is that the best one
11:17<babilen>dpkg: ubuntuirc jgcampbell300
11:17<dpkg>jgcampbell300: This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server chat.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://chat.freenode.net/ubuntu
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11:18<mxpwr>is there any decent rar-archive manager who allow me to select one folder and the program will extract all the rar-archives who exists in that or in any of its sub-folders?
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11:18<jgcampbell300>oh ... sorry didnt notice i was on wrong one ... thanks
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11:20<mxpwr>anyone?
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11:25<retrospectacus>mxpwr: never heard of a program that would do that... you could use find with -exec (man find)
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11:31<Hola>hola
11:31<Hola>hay alguien
11:32<Hola>Ok
11:32<Apollo>!es
11:32<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
11:32<Hola>omg
11:32<Hola>._.
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11:32<Hola>alguien me puede decir algo
11:32<retrospectacus>Hola: ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat
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11:33<Hola>..,
11:33<retrospectacus>or speak English
11:33<Hola>no speak english sorry
11:33<Hola>speak spanish
11:33<Hola>do you can speak spanish?
11:33<mxpwr>retrospectacus, it can be done in windows using winrar.
11:33<retrospectacus>Hola, mas usted no puedes leer?
11:33<retrospectacus>Hola: no.
11:34<Hola>si
11:34<Hola>si puedo
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11:34<Hola>y tu también
11:34<Hola>o no?
11:34<Hola>:D
11:34<Hola>esto es nuevo
11:34<Hola>no entiendo nada
11:34<Hola>;-S
11:34<retrospectacus>Hola: ...
11:34<Hola>hola soy yo
11:34<Hola>:DDDD
11:34<Hola>:DDDDDDDDDD
11:34<Apollo>jesus christ...
11:35<Hola>yees apollo
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11:35<Hola>..
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11:35<retrospectacus>dios, mio spaniards
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11:35<Hola>eso no se nada
11:35<Apollo>Hola: #debian-es or speak english
11:35<Hola>hablen
11:35<Apollo>you're spamming the channel
11:35<Hola>ok -.-
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11:35<Apollo>finally
11:35<Apollo>thanks
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11:36<babilen>Apollo: I would have reacted earlier if somebody had called me (or rather dpkg: ops)
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11:36<carl_>Hello, I am having an issue with my mouse on Ubuntu.
11:36<babilen>haha
11:36<babilen>dpkg: ubuntuirc carl_
11:36<dpkg>carl_: This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server chat.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://chat.freenode.net/ubuntu
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11:45<adga><retrospectacus> insolent.....
11:46<adga><retrospectacus> you move to #debian-us
11:46<retrospectacus>que?
11:46<adga><retrospectacus> or #debian-en
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11:46<retrospectacus>this is the English channel...
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11:47<adga>pardon #debian-es
11:47<retrospectacus>I don't know spanish.
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11:50<adga>retrospectacus, y por que estas en una lista que se usa como idioma el ingles aunque este canal debe ser multilingue ya que no especifica el idioma....
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11:51<retrospectacus>no comprende
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11:52<retrospectacus>I only copied what the robot said, and said "can you not read?" which I google translated umm years ago, for use in this channel.
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11:55<Maulkin>adga: be nice, and use English.
11:56<adga>retrospectacus, ok you use google translate, excuse mi.
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11:56<adga>Maulkin, yes speaking english.....
11:56<babilen>adga: Do you have a Debian related problem we can help you with?
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11:57<adga>babilen, no...
11:58<babilen>adga: Okay, then please chat elsewhere (in our offtopic channel #debian-offtopic or #moocows for example)
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12:01<adga>babilen, not move here, I'll be quiet here....
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12:03<crispy>I hope general linux questions are also welcome here: I just realised i can play videos by piping them through ssh: cat Downloads/Carrie.avi | ssh <host> DISPLAY=:0 mplayer - works like a charm! But its not possible to seek in the movie obviously -- any ideas how to achieve that?
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12:03<OdyX>crispy: scp + mplayer, that way you keep a local copy of the file and can seek in the part that is already downloaded.
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12:04<retrospectacus>sshfs?
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12:05<crispy>retrospectacus, too tedius! :
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12:06<crispy>OdyX, I could do that, but id rather have a solution where I can seek before the pipe
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12:06<crispy>I thought of something like mplayer -dumpstream file.avi | ssh.....
12:06<crispy>but that doesnt work ;<
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12:12<kristian1aul>Hi
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12:12<Maulkin>!ask
12:12<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
12:13<kristianpaul>hi
12:13<kristianpaul>There is a way to overwrite by boot parameters some options already set in a preseed file?
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12:16<kristianpaul>ahh http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apbs02.html.en#preseed-bootparms
12:16<Maulkin>http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apbs02.html.en may help
12:16<Maulkin>Yeah, that
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12:29<kristianpaul>do i need set ownet to d-i ?
12:29<kristianpaul>owner*
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12:55<chr00t>Good evening. Can some1 help? Trying to install grub on raid0
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12:56<retrospectacus>chr00t: what have you tried and what happens?
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12:56<chr00t>root@magister-CUDA:/home/magister# grub-install --recheck /dev/md126
12:56<chr00t>/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: no such disk.
12:56<chr00t>Auto-detection of a filesystem of /dev/md126p3 failed.
12:56<chr00t>Try with --recheck.
12:56<chr00t>If the problem persists please report this together with the output of "/usr/sbin/grub-probe --device-map="/boot/grub/device.map" --target=fs -v /boot/grub" to <bug-grub@gnu.org>
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12:57<kingugo>hey peeps
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12:57<retrospectacus>dpkg: tell chr00t about paste
12:58<chr00t>how to paste output in a correct way? got kicked
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12:58<retrospectacus>chr00t: the robot just told you
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12:59<retrospectacus>in a new window or tab
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12:59<chr00t>thanks
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13:00<Guest2219>salve qualcuno che puo aitarmi
13:00<retrospectacus>!it
13:00<dpkg>Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help.
13:00<chr00t>when I'm trying to install grub on raid0 the following happens: http://paste.debian.net/14589/ can you help, please?
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13:01<Guest2219>nessuno in linea
13:01<Guest2219>ce un canale supporto back track o kali linux
13:02<retrospectacus>dpkg: tell Guest2219 about kali
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13:02<Guest2219>coasa?
13:02<Guest2219>cosa?
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13:03<retrospectacus>#kali-linux on irc.freenode.net
13:03<Guest2219>grazie non avevo capito
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13:04<Guest2219>sono solo in quel kanale
13:04<retrospectacus>#kali-linux: Total of 225 nicks
13:04<retrospectacus>it's on irc.freenode.net not here.
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13:07<Guest2219>non trovo nessuno
13:07<Guest2219>su kali
13:08<Guest2219>ce un messaggio larik.oft.net ha impostato la modalita *
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13:11<kingugo>hello guys, can kali linux question be asked here?
13:12<mgv>!kali
13:12<dpkg>Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on irc.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>.
13:12<mgv>kingugo: so, nope
13:12<kingugo>ok
13:12<kingugo>pls do you know any channel for that?
13:12<mgv>sure. #kali-linux on irc.freenode.net
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13:15<kingugo>ok, thanks man
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13:31<anoncn_78>sera
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13:31<retrospectacus>hello anoncn_78
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13:32<anoncn_78>hello retrospectacus
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13:44<Z>sup faggots.
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14:50<jepler>I noticed that debian jessie has xpra 0.9.5+dfsg-1, but that build-depends on cython >= 0.16, but cython in jessie is 0.15.1-2. is there something that should be done about this?
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14:52<tom>Hallo
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15:03<nmeum>!de
15:03<dpkg>Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de).
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15:04<SamB>jepler: you mean like making britney track build-deps?
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15:04<jepler>SamB: I meant near term
15:04<jepler>is this bug-filing territory, for example?
15:05<SamB>avoid releasing in this state?
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15:05<SamB>well, it doesn't work wrong or anything; it just won't rebuild if someone tries to build it using only jessie
15:05<SamB>right?
15:06<jepler>yes
15:06<jepler>well as far as I know
15:07<SamB>so yeah, at this point in the release cycle I think you can just let that kind of thing go
15:07<SamB>during the freeze, things would be different
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15:14<jepler>SamB: thanks
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15:18<SamB>(the reason they would be different is that the issue would require manual intervention on the part of the release team)
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15:23<Bence>hi, I used fdisk to write a new dos partition table to my sdcard then made an empty partition on it, did mkfs.ext4, rsynced my files onto that but when I try to unmount it it hangs very long and I get the error msg: kernel:[1543515.074457] journal commit I/O error what could be wrong?
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16:02<Grimnar>Any zfs gurus here?
16:02<daemonkeeper>!anyone
16:02<dpkg>Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>.
16:02<Grimnar>okay then
16:04<Grimnar>My /dev/sdb1 was in a zfs pool, and during a recent boot it's called /dev/sdd1 - This has stopped my zfs pool, how can I make zfs understand /dev/sdd1 is the disk to use now?
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16:05<tom>Hi
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16:05<tom>hallo
16:05<blami>Grimnar: zfs in debian?
16:06<tom>
16:06<tom>ftp in debian
16:06<Grimnar>blami: yeah
16:06<tom>(hihi)
16:07<tom>YEAH POW!
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16:07<rev>http://zfsonlinux.org/faq.html#HowDoIChangeNamesOnAnExistingPool ?
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16:09<Grimnar>That little ? was nice and calming :)
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16:17<moto_>Hello
16:18<retrospectacus>hello moto
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16:18<moto_>Has anyone ever had a problem with the debian installer where usb storage devices (both usb-sticks and usb cdrom-drives) don't get recognized at all, thus not allowing the installer to detect and mount the cdrom? I'm trying the latest testing release and I am having just that problem.
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16:23<nmeum>moto_: I had the same problem try to use the wheezy installer instead and manually upgrade to testing afterwards
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16:32<caramba>hi
16:32<moto_>nmeum: Thank you very much, I will try that instead
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16:33<caramba>Debian is more secure that other linux distros?
16:33<retrospectacus>caramba: no
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16:34<caramba>i need a secure system... and I prefer linux...
16:34<retrospectacus>caramba: debian is secure
16:34<retrospectacus>caramba: security is mostly dependent on a computer's users
16:35<retrospectacus>not the os
16:35<caramba>alright
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16:36<caramba>debian have the same programs that runs in ubuntu? ubuntu always crashed in my laptop
16:37<retrospectacus>caramba: no. Ubuntu is based on Debian but it has a lot of different programs
16:37<retrospectacus>dpkg: tell caramba about install debian
16:37<retrospectacus>caramba: let us know if you have any problems installing debian or questions once it is installed.
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16:38<caramba>thanks (=
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16:41<moto_>nmeum: Thanks a lot, that seems to have done the trick, it is past that step now.
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16:46<Calinou>debian will also crash on your laptop
16:46<Calinou>if you're crashing because of overheating
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17:05<netpirate>hi
17:05<retrospectacus>ahoy
17:06<netpirate>bitchx is available to ubuntu?
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17:06<retrospectacus>!ubuntuirc
17:06<dpkg>This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server chat.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://chat.freenode.net/ubuntu
17:06<retrospectacus>!bitchx
17:06<dpkg>BitchX is an old and unmaintained <IRC> client built on epic and ircII. It was abandoned by its upstream, has known security issues and was removed from Debian post-Etch to resolve bug #451373. Ask me about <irssi>, <xchat>, <konversation>, <weechat> for alternatives. To ignore BitchX quit messages in irssi, ask me about <literal bitchxignore>.
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17:06<netpirate>:/
17:07<netpirate>bitchx the best
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17:07<retrospectacus>that's a negatory good buddy. Irssi ftw
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17:09<Kamzor> Hi all, how can I define behaviour of exit button in gtkmm 3? I found there was Gtk::Main::signal_quit() in gtkmm 2. How it's to be done in gtkmm3?
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17:11<mgv>Kamzor: try #gtk+ on irc.gnome.org
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17:12<Kamzor>mgv: i actually tried but no one answered for 15 minutes :)
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17:12<mgv>since this is not a Debian question, I don't think you'll get an answer here
17:13<mgv>try a generic programming channel or another resource, such as a gtk mailing list or Q/A website
17:13<Kamzor>ok, anyway i tried here once
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17:17<ekiwok>is it good place to ask about experience in installing debian mips/el on routers like netgear wnr3500l instead of tomato or wrt?
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17:21<dexter1>does anyone know the source site for readlinks/clearlinks ? I used it a long time ago but can't seem to find it now.
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17:24<devil_>dexter1: cruft
17:27<dexter1>Thanks
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17:28<devil_>yw
17:31<dexter1>devil_:cruft doesn't seem to do what clearlinks used to do.
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17:31<dexter1>clearlinks (or what I remember) was supposed to clean up broken sym links - I know I can use find to do that, I am a bit lazy
17:31<devil_>dexter1: it does readlinks
17:32<devil_>at least apt-file search says that
17:32<devil_>i know neither one of them
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17:34<dexter1>yeah - I came across clearlinks a million year ago and now I can't remember where.
17:35<devil_>not in debian probably
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17:36<dexter1>wasn't in debian - custom compiled it.
17:36<dexter1>no worries
17:36<alexis_>Hi all, where should i look for performance issues about the GUI in debian 7?
17:37<retrospectacus>alexis_: video driver
17:37<alexis_>any specific log file retrospectacus ?
17:37<retrospectacus>no
17:37<alexis_>closing iceweasel tabs takes some time in render
17:38<alexis_>oh
17:38<alexis_>should i reinstall all video related?
17:38<SamB>"in render"?
17:38<alexis_>draw on screen SamB
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17:38<retrospectacus>alexis_: no. weren't you here a couple days ago messing with your Nvidia driver getting it installer properly?
17:39<alexis_>yes retrospectacus, i uninstalled the m-a install i had done previously and installed all nvidia drivers as per the wiki
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17:40<alexis_>my cpu graph in panel shows it's at more than 50% when opening a web browser
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17:40<retrospectacus>alexis_: then you have the best you can get (though upgrading the driver to >304 would probably help)
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17:41<alexis_>it worked way faster in mint and fedora
17:41<retrospectacus>alexis_: that sounds normal, though it should drop off once it's done opening
17:41<dexter1>devil_:I was looking for cleanlinks not clearlinks - my bad.
17:41<alexis_>okay retrospectacus i will download the official latest for this chipset
17:42<retrospectacus>alexis_: using the nvidia.com driver is not supported or recommended
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17:42<alexis_>then what should i do?
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17:43<retrospectacus>alexis_: honestly I don't know. I have 304 and it works great.
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17:44<greg>is there a channel dedicated to Mint help? I can't find it in search
17:44<alexis_>greg, http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/12
17:44<yuhl>hello
17:44<greg>thanks
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17:45<yuhl>does someone knows how to transform a debian to a wifi router
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17:46<retrospectacus>yuhl: add a wireless device, put it in master mode. set up dhcp3-server, enable IP forwarding and NAT
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17:48<devil_>dexter1: xutils-dev
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17:50<yuhl>retrospectacus, enabling ip forwarding will be needed only if my router is connected to a wired network ?
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17:50<retrospectacus>yuhl: ip forwarding enables the kernel to route traffic between interfaces. If it's not doing that, it's not really a router at all.
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17:51<yuhl>retrospectacus, when you do the routing between wifi client, how do you call this
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17:52<retrospectacus>if that's all you want, I think you just need to enable master mode (note that most wifi devices in e.g. a laptop, do not support master mode)
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17:53<yuhl>retrospectacus, my situation is that my laptop has a lot of movie that i want to consume on other device while not having wifi
17:54<h725>hi I'm trying to build the qemu package source via dpkg-buildpackage but when I run the qemu-arm binary, I get an assertion failure: Inconsistency detected by ld.so: ../sysdeps/x86_64/dl-machine.h: 466: elf_machine_rela_relative: Assertion `((reloc->r_info) & 0xffffffff) == 8' failed!
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17:54<h725>why would that happen?
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17:56<alexis_>is it supported to install nvidia drivers from xorg-edgers/ppa ?
17:56<retrospectacus>yuhl: check out http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/AdHoc
17:56<papamoose>h725: library dependency?
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17:56<retrospectacus>alexis_: not here
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17:57<h725>papamoose: what do you mean by library dependency?
17:58<h725>I don't understand why apt-get build-dep qemu; apt-get source qemu; cd qemu-*; dpkg-buildpackage does not yield a functional package -- shouldn't apt take care of all dependencies?
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17:58<yuhl>retrospectacus, after reading your info and wikipedia, i felt that the "ad-hoc" mode was what i needed. Thank you for the pointer
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18:20<outlander>hi
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18:46<yuhl>retrospectacus, thanks for the help. but after some works I found out that: Android does not support ad-hoc wifi, and that my wifi card on my laptop does not support AccessPoint mode. So I'm stuck. Thanks for your precious help.
18:48<retrospectacus>I would have thought android does support ad-hoc... I have seen ad-hoc networks on my Droid (but never tried it)
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19:04<wdoodle>Hello, for any who were here a few nights ago when I reported on garbage characters during boot on serial console, I can give a brief report on my progress: none. Tried lowering the bps rate to 4800 2400 and 1200 tried 8n1 7n1 7e1 7o1. 8n1 7e1 worked but still spewed garabe during boot. 7o1, could enter uname, but password always faild. 7n1 no good. Below 2400 and I no longer got the grub boot selection menu. So, between "loading initial ramd
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19:08<wdoodle>I can add that losing the grub menu below 2400 bps is consistent with what the serial console howto reports about grub legacy: 2400 bps is lowest speed supported by grub for it's own io
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19:13<ompaul>wdoodle: one question, how old is the hardware?
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19:38<wdoodle>ompaul: hi, server is p3, box where minicom is running is amd e350 cpu
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19:38<wdoodle>which reminds me, I tried with screen as the terminal as well as minicom, but it didn't fix anything
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22:11<ferene>Anyone know how to make fuse mount a filesystem so other users can write and read from it too?
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22:13<Khades>isn't your idea quite opposite to what fuse is for?
22:14<ferene>Hmm. Good point. I'll just add it to fstab - now I just have to figure out the permissions for that!
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22:21<Khades>what do you mount?
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22:24<ferene>A 3TB external HDD
22:24<Khades>i'd add uuid to fstab and allow anyone to mount it
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22:25<Khades>also i think udisk is able to mount disks in way you want
22:25<Khades>i use udisks-glue and it seems it does mount without fuse
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22:26<ferene>I'm hoping to mount the disk such that all users can read and write to it, not just to allow all users to it
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22:31<@abrotman>Khades: does it appear that way?
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22:36<wdoodle>ompaul: what thoughts do you have relative to the age of the hardware?
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22:47<Khades>abrotman: yeh it rejects connection
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22:48<abrotman>Khades: IP? Should have timed out
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22:54<ompaul>wdoodle: failure as you didnt tell us
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23:13<jojojackson>wuz up ppls
23:13<jojojackson>heller
23:13<jojojackson>bye ppls
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23:38<alexis_>Hello all, i am using debian wheezy 64bit and trying to virtualize a 32bit OS on virtualbox 4.2.10_Debianr84101. It freezes after i press enter on GRUB. What am I missing to install to make it work?
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