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---Logopened Thu Jul 11 00:00:02 2013
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00:10<bullgard4>What is a »source package« in Debian? See for example http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=sourcenames&keywords=nfs-utils
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00:15<chealer>bullgard4: it's a package of source material (source code) used to generate a number of "binary packages" (aka "packages")
00:16<chealer>!source package
00:16<dpkg>A source package is a set of files used to make a Debian binary <package>. The main file is the Debian source control file (<dsc>) which lists the other required files; use "dget http://.../foo.dsc" (see <devscripts>) to download the dsc and all referenced files. There is also a <tarball> and (usually) patches in <diff.gz> or <debsrc3.0> format. The dsc contains checksums and is cryptographically signed by the uploader. <policy> <nmg>
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00:17<bullgard4>chealer: (Even a bot knows the answer!) Thank you very much for your help.
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00:41<gonegalt>greetings!
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00:42<gonegalt>i'm running Mepis and wondering if anyone available might be able to help me with a wireless connectivity issue
00:43<gonegalt>it runs fine but doesn't work properly under the console login option
00:44<gonegalt>i've read alot of info but it seems to mainly pertain to the KDE environment
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00:44<sney>!mepis
00:44<dpkg>MEPIS is a live CD distribution based on Debian. SimplyMEPIS 11 (based on Squeeze), SimplyMEPIS 8.0/8.5 (based on Lenny) and antiX (based on <testing>) are not supported in #debian. http://www.mepis.org/ #mepis on irc.freenode.net. See also <based on debian>.
00:45<gonegalt>ahhhh.....so i'm hosed. X(
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00:46<gonegalt>delightful
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00:47<sney>gonegalt: the options here are usually a) ask in the right place or b) install debian and party with us
00:47<sney>I am biased to option b. but we do generally have way more helpers for issues like yours.
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00:48<sney>since your distro is different, though, I can't responsibly tell you how to fix it because I don't know what else might break. sorry.
00:48<gonegalt>where would be the right place to ask
00:48<sney>#mepis on irc.freenode.net.
00:48<gonegalt>thank you isr
00:48<gonegalt>*sir
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00:48<sney>irc://chat.freenode.net/mepis if you're using xchat or a client that can handle those links.
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01:13<g_>hellooo
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01:58<Elrond>Who can tell me why the xfce is delayed seriously than gonme 3
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01:59<BotIni>orale hijos de su puta madre
01:59<BotIni>quien brinca mierditas?
01:59<BotIni>bola de pendejos me la pepepepepelaaaan
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02:00<Bcktrack>orale pues
02:00<Bcktrack>quiero verlos entrar mierditas
02:00<Bcktrack>quiero saber quienes son
02:00<Infiltrator>!es
02:00<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
02:01<Bcktrack>Infiltrator, aprende español no seas pendejo
02:01<Bcktrack>xD
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02:01<yooo>help?
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02:01<Elrond>yes
02:01<Bcktrack>yooo, help que?
02:01<yooo>okay
02:01<Bcktrack>aquí quiero hackers
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02:02<Bcktrack>many many entiendes pendejo?
02:02<yooo>so i wiped my os but it didint finsishe deleting data
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02:02<Bcktrack>yooo, aqui no se da asistencia de ese tipo
02:02<Bcktrack>aqui hackers
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02:02<Bcktrack>otro?
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02:03<Bcktrack>así me gusta
02:03<Bcktrack>que uyan cobardes
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02:07<Infiltrator>!ops ^
02:07<dpkg>Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: infiltrator complains about: ^
02:07<Infiltrator>Hm.
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03:20<Lupe>Hello, is there a possibility to get the information in libstdc++6-4.7-doc as info-files, preferable provided by some .deb?
03:21<Lupe>I'm an emacs user and the html stuff is /so/ clumsy compared to info :)
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03:42<Myon>Lupe: file a wishlist bug
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03:54<prahal>hi . ping.eu tells me my http server is a proxy server (on 80). other proxy check tells I am not . I do not have mod_proxy enabled . I have checked GET other site via telnet (though my web server) and no go.
03:55<prahal>does one know what ping.eu has that other do not. And or a reliable proxy checker other thanh ping.eu that would confirm I am really open ?
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03:56<dcraig>what http server are you using?
03:56<prahal>apache 2.4 from debian
03:57<dcraig>I don't think you need to be worried about ping.eu
03:57<prahal>it is not reliable ?
03:58<jm_>why not check what it's sending to the server?
03:58<stderr>As far as I can tell their only check is "GET http://ping.eu / HTTP/1.0\r\nHost: http://ping.eu\r\n".
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03:59<prahal>why not , let s fire tshark
03:59<prahal>oh thanks
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04:00<stderr>Funny thing is my varnish box says 400 Bad Request. I would trust that proxy checker too much.
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04:01<prahal>oh telnet show me the local apache error . And it tells in its output no permission to access ping.eu . Could be that the pattern checked by ping.eu is brained dead and see that as success
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04:01<dcraig>unless you've configured apache to be a proxy server, why do you think you have a proxy server?
04:01<stderr>prahal: 200 Ok, 400 Bad Request or some other error code?
04:02<prahal>403
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04:03<andres>dcraig: e.g. setting up caching in apache can easily lead to setting up an open proxy if you're not careful
04:03<stderr>I could see why ping.eu "mistakes" that for a proxy...
04:03<dcraig>prahal, have you set up caching in apache?
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04:04<stderr>Your server basically says "I understand what you're trying to do, but I won't let you connect to ping.eu (but if you try to connect to something else, I might let you do it)".
04:05<stderr>My server on the other says "what the **** are you talking about? Go away".
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04:07<prahal>ok checking cache
04:07<prahal>conf
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04:08<prahal>because before I added require local to 000-default.conf ... it returned the /var/www content
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04:15<greenit>hi, is the question if you know a good notebook to buy for debian offtopic?
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04:18<prahal>stderr: you did any good tweaks ! I am interested in those (do you run apache2 too ?) as per https://wiki.apache.org/httpd/ProxyAbuse . "My server is properly configured not to proxy, so why is Apache returning a 200 (Success) status code?" apache "will serve the homepage content from your default (virtual) host."
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04:18<prahal>which it does here (only I have setup the default virtual host to only allow from local
04:19<stderr>prahal: As I said, it's my varnish box that says 400. The check never gets to apahe.
04:19<prahal>ok
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04:21<stderr>I got a squid box, if I want caching.
04:22<prahal>thanks for all the inputs (especially the ping.eu GET request) ... why I did not think about tshark'ing it , I do not know.
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04:23<prahal>I only have socache_shmcb module enable about apache caching (it is required by ssl module)
04:24<prahal>so ping.eu -1 , other proxy checker +++
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04:32<peter1139>hmm, apt-get changelog fails :S
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04:32<peter1139>for e.g. libcurl3
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04:39<stderr>peter1139: http://ftp-master.metadata.debian.org/changelogs/main/c/curl/curl_7.26.0-1+wheezy3_changelog
04:39<stderr>Is that what you're looking for?
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04:41<peter1139>i guess that's it. apt-get changelog doesn't look there, though.
04:41<peter1139>it looks at http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/updates/main/c/curl/curl_7.26.0-1+wheezy3/changelog and http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/c/curl/curl_7.26.0-1+wheezy3.changelog
04:41<stderr>Yeah, I got that too.
04:45<stderr>"The server name and base directory is defined in the APT::Changelogs::Server variable (e.g. packages.debian.org/changelogs[1] for Debian..."
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04:49<peter1139>hmm, no changelog for nginx_1.2.1-2.2+wheezy1 on ftp-master, only 1.2.1-2.2
04:49<peter1139>i guess this is not going to be as reliable as i'd hoped :(
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04:52<OdyX>;2~/win 28
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04:55<peter1139>heh... dpkg-deb --fsys-tarfile /var/cache/apt/archives/libcurl3_7.26.0-1+wheezy3_i386.deb | tar -xOf - --wildcards *changelog.Debian.gz | zcat | less
04:56<peter1139>bit wordy
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05:01<cae>can someone please tell me if I did right? I'm trying to online-move a LVM to a tmp storage and back, but using a dm_crypt container as target (the goal is to encrypt /). /boot is outside LVM and dm_crypt, update-initramfs -u is done. Everything looks fine, but when I zcat initrd* | cpio -i, I can't find the swap entry in cronf/conf.d/cryptroot
05:02<cae>another full-encrypted installation done with the installer has this entry and I'm confused if it's necessary
05:02<cae>fstab is right, crypttab is right, but I'm not sure if the box will reboot properly
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05:03<cae>(local access is possible, should I just try?)
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05:06<peter1139>swap entry?
05:07<peter1139>hm
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05:10<cae>peter1139: swap is inside the LVM, same vg, just as in the installer-made system
05:11<peter1139>yeah but is swap really mounted within initramfs?
05:11<cae>I have no idea how important it is (I'd say minor, but what if one of the initrd scripts relies on it and explodes?)
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05:12<cae>peter1139: good point... I think not. But why has the other system that entry? "just in case"?
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05:12<peter1139>weird
05:13<peter1139>but i can't say, i don't use that set up
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05:26<cae>"what could probably go wrong?"... let's reboot :-)
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05:31<cae>peter1139: it "just worked". Thanks for your thoughts and help!
05:32<cae>and, btw, the swap is there
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05:46<peter1139>cae, congrats :)
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05:49<moein7tl>I shut down my laptop last night suddenly and now x server doesn't load at boot
05:49<moein7tl>I should run startx after login into tty1
05:49<moein7tl>how can I fix it?
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06:29<devnull_>hello. i have a problem, i am using an alfa and i get many disconnects from the wireless network.. every 3-4 minutes i get http://pastebin.com/kw9Se5DT
06:29<devnull_>any idea
06:29<devnull_>?
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06:35<babilen>devnull_: Which adaptor is that? (lspci -nn|grep -i wireless) Which version of Debian do you use with which kernel?
06:35<babilen>err
06:35<babilen>Make that "lspci -nn|grep -i network"
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06:38<devnull_>babilen, it's an usb Alfa AWUS036H
06:38<babilen>Ah, alright. Which version of Debian is that and which kernel do you use?
06:38<devnull_>Bus 003 Device 004: ID 0bda:8187 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8187 Wireless Adapter
06:39<babilen>merci
06:39<devnull_>jessie Linux debian 3.9-1-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.9.6-1 x86_64 GNU/Linux
06:39<babilen>dpkg: RTL8187
06:39<dpkg>Realtek 802.11b/g PCI/PCIe and USB wireless LAN chipsets (RTL8180L, RTL8185L, RTL8187L, RTL8187B, RTL8187SE) are supported by the rtl8180, rtl8187 and rtl8187se/r8187se drivers in the Linux kernel. All drivers do not require firmware from userspace. http://wiki.debian.org/rtl818x . For support of Realtek 802.11n devices, ask me about <rtl819x>.
06:39<babilen>devnull_: You want #debian-next for support of testing/unstable and not #debian (see /topic)
06:40<devnull_>oh sorry
06:40<devnull_>going there thx for help
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09:17<chrishell>constantly repeating asking: what is about debian CUT? http://lwn.net/Articles/406301/
09:17<themill>CUT is an idea and a poorly-defined one at that.
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09:43<prahal>slomo : thanks for the final word on the next track bug
09:43<prahal>I sometimes get this deadlock https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=704002
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09:47<prahal>ought one get the stream lock on the input selector pad before locking the input_selector_lock ?
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09:50<rah>how do I install a java .jar file system-wide?
09:51<rah>the README file for the source says "To install jlscp as an extension just copy jlscp.jar in the following directory: <JDK-home>/jre/lib/ext"
09:52<rah>which I don't want to do because JDK-home is under /usr/lib
09:52<rah>how can I install the file under /usr/local but have it be available to all users by default?
09:53<prahal>ok wrong chan sorry
09:55<OdyX>win 28
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10:21<trico>is /usr/local/bin not in the PATH for cron jobs? one of my scripts fails inexplicably and this is the only thing i can think of. how do i check it?
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10:23<themill>it isn't in cron's default PATH; see crontab(5)
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10:25<trico>it just says it uses the users crontab. so why doesnt it work>????
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10:28<trico>i really dont get it. it says it runs each user has their own tab, and the jobs run as that user, but it very clearly isnt doing this
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10:29<Maulkin>trico: What do you mean?
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10:30<trico>my script fails when run from cron, and it looks like its because one of the commands isnt in the path
10:31<trico>its pretty clear cron is NOT using the users path
10:31<themill>trico: there's no such thing as "the user's path"
10:31<trico>echo $PATH
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10:32<trico>so is this a misconfiguration or another bug?
10:32<themill>that's the PATH in that particular login shell. As I said, you need to change PATH in your crontab -- see crontab(5)
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10:47<Samkov>anyone know whats happening with wine and debian? 1.5 still cant be properly built on wheezy, im just curious if 1.6 will make it into sid or jessie by the end of the summer?
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10:50<peter1139>wine is 1.4.1 on wheezy
10:51<babilen>and will always be
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10:52<Samkov>will sid reach 1.6 anytime in the nearing future?
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10:55<babilen>Samkov: I don't think 1.6 has been released yet or has it?
10:56<babilen>I could only see some release candidates the last time I looked
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10:57<Bushduck>hello, seeking some suggestion folks, let me know if anyone wish to help me
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10:58<babilen>Bushduck: I'd say you should go out and eat some ice cream!
10:59<Samkov>nop, it hasnt been released yet, 1 or 2 more rcs to go I think
10:59<Bushduck>thank you babilen
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11:00<babilen>Samkov: Well, it definitely won't be packaged before the release.
11:01<babilen>judd: v wine-unstable
11:01<judd>Package: wine-unstable on i386 -- sid: 1.5.30-2
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11:01<babilen>Samkov: That is *almost* the newest release (1.5.31) ^^^
11:02<Samkov>oh no no no i knew that, i was speaking for future reference when it is complete
11:03<babilen>Samkov: I don't package it, but you might be able to draw some conclusions from the time it took the maintainer to package earlier releases.
11:04<Samkov>hmmm i see. last that i heard the debian wine maintainer stepped down :/
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11:13<notdan>So I've installed libcgroup1 and cgroup-bin and there is no /etc/cgconfig.conf and cgroups are not mounted
11:13<notdan>is this the intendent behaviour?
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11:28<dckx>hi, I've upgraded my packages today and I've noticed some applications look very win95-ish. I'm running debian jessie and use gnome3. Pidgin for example looks broken, gedit and some others are fine. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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11:29<SynrG>dckx: a) see #debian-next for testing/unstable support. b) describe over there better what "looks broken", etc. actually means
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11:31<dckx>SynrG: thanks, I'll ask there again
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12:43<fnmueller>hi, how do I install 32 bit iceweasel coexistent to a 64 bit iceweael in wheezy. Sadly, google didn't help
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13:00<lukem>ok so I have a basic git question?
13:01<lukem>is anyone here competent with git?
13:01<bigjust>lukem: this channel is for debian support, try #git on freenode
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13:09<lukem>i only see 2 people on that channel
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13:11<meei>hello
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13:11<meei>I would like to star using a linux distro, and I think Debian is one of the best or the best one
13:12<meei>But I need some specific help
13:12<mgv>!ask
13:12<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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13:13<SynrG>14:12 -!- Irssi: #git: Total of 958 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 5 voices, 952 normal]
13:13<SynrG>lukem: ^^ #git on freenode, as bigjust suggested.
13:14<meei>First of all, I'm going to use an ultrabook, the ASUS S550CB the i5 version. It has a touch screen and I would like to know if it is supported by debian.
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13:20<SynrG>meei: i can't say specifically about that hardware. here is a general page about touchscreen in the wiki: http://wiki.debian.org/TabletAndTouchScreen?highlight=%28touchscreen%29
13:21<SynrG>meei: i also looked at http://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Asus which is where i'd expect user stories about their install experiences would go. unfortunately, your model is not there.
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13:39<serge>hi please i need help about linuz lite
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13:43<SynrG>wtf?
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13:45<mgv>dpkg: tell serge about linux lite
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13:47<serge>i want install some programs
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13:50<blast007>serge: Linux Lite isn't supported here. Read what dpkg sent you.
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14:21<biglinux>hug
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14:29<infrid>hi
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14:38<fjq>any Kali Linux users out there ?
14:38<retrospectacus>!kali
14:38<dpkg>Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on irc.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>.
14:40<doubledutch>!ask is also relevant
14:40<dpkg>doubledutch: okay
14:40<fjq>!ask
14:40<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. relevant
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15:03<Gnhugo>alguien que me ayude con un código de activación para riseup?
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15:05<retrospectacus>!br
15:05<dpkg>Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues.
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15:07<Gnhugo>someone help me with an activation code for riseup?
15:08<retrospectacus>Gnhugo: no; this is Debian support - we don't deal in "activation codes"
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15:11<Tukeke>!es
15:11<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
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15:15<nmeum>how can I change the brightness of my laptop display?
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15:23<babilen>nmeum: Check /sys/class/backlight/ and use something along the lines of "echo echo -n 10 > /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness" -- Alternatively use the dedicated buttons. Most laptops have a Fn button you hold while using other buttons to adjust the brightness.
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15:43<nmeum>babilen: yeah, those buttons doesn't work, do you know how I can fix them?
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15:44<nuria>HELLO
15:44<nuria>HI
15:44<nuria>MY NAME'S NURIA
15:44<retrospectacus>nuria: shhhhh
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15:44<nuria>SHH YOI
15:44<nuria>YOU
15:45<nuria>WHAT'S HAPPEND?
15:45<nuria>FUCK YOU!
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15:47<nmeum>wow that escaladed quickly
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15:47<nmeum>*escalated
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15:58<cj_>hey folks
15:59<cj_>is there a way to change ownership of files from `dpkg -L exim4-base` back to their initial state?
15:59<cj_>I seem to have accidentally chown'd/chmod'd a bunch of files incorrectly
16:00<cj_>just getting a listing of ownership/mode will be sufficient
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16:02<retrospectacus>here's mine cj_ http://paste.debian.net/15597/
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16:10<babilen>nmeum: Make sure you have acpid installed and running. Worked out-of-the-box on my thinkpad, but I guess that it doesn't necessarily on all laptops. I would recommend searching for specific info on your laptop model online (or at least the vendor)
16:12<nmeum>acpid running, I will do some google searches then...
16:12<nmeum>*is running
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16:15<brawson>Hi. Is anyone here involved with debian-ports? I am trying to get my buildd integrated with their wanna-build system.
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16:20<nmeum>Does anybody know the extlinux equivalent of GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub?
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16:23<gsimmons>nmeum: You probably want EXTLINUX_PARAMETERS (/etc/default/extlinux).
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16:25<nmeum>gsimmons: can I use the same options I would use with grub?
16:26<babilen>nmeum: So, can you adjust the brightness with the command I mentioned?
16:26<gsimmons>nmeum: Yes, they're passed to the kernel in the same way.
16:26<nmeum>babilen: no
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16:26<nmeum>babilen: I also tried a package called xbacklight and it didn't work either
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16:41<nmeum>I found a entry in the ubuntu wiki about my laptop (yes, I am using debian) they suggest to add GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="quiet splash pcie_aspm=force i915.i915_enable_rc6=1 acpi_osi=Linux acpi_backlight=vendor" I added those values to EXTLINUX_PARAMETERS in my /etc/default/extlinux but I am still not able to change the brightness, any suggestions?
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16:42<gsimmons>nmeum: Where those parameters actually received by the kernel? (cat /proc/cmdline)
16:43<nmeum>gsimmons: yes, they were received by the kernel
16:44<nmeum>gsimmons: http://sprunge.us/biff (the output of cat /proc/cmdline)
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16:47<dpkg>deb-multimedia.org (formerly debian-multimedia.org) is a repository of unofficial packages maintained by Christian Marillat, not in Debian for legal reasons or because the packages are too poor in quality. See http://deb-multimedia.org/ or ask me about <dmm wheezy>, <dmm squeeze>. Remember to include a "non-free" component in your sources.list lines. See also <dmm list>, <dmm mirrors>, <dmm pinning>, <why not dmm>, <dmm remove>.
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16:58<Ano_Nym_1111>Hi, i have got a problem running debian testing on my SheevaPlug (armel/kirkwood). "Give up waiting for root device".. reported the problem in irc when 3.9.6 was relased and in 3.9.8 its still the same. can anybody please tell me what i should do? could easily go back to 3.2.x but what should i do for this bug to be fixed? http://pastebin.com/CHMwymTp
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17:04<nmeum>gsimmons: If I use grub and set these options then it works...but I do not really won't to use grub...
17:05<nmeum>ok, my misstake it doesn't work with grub either
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17:22<Ano_Nym_1111>Hi, i have got a problem running debian testing on my SheevaPlug (armel/kirkwood). "Give up waiting for root device".. reported the problem in irc when 3.9.6 was relased and in 3.9.8 its still the same. can anybody please tell me what i should do? could easily go back to 3.2.x but what should i do for this bug to be fixed? http://pastebin.com/CHMwymTp
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17:23<devil_>Ano_Nym_1111: we read you
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17:25<Ano_Nym_1111>sorry, just saw many users leave/joining and thought i could ask again after 25 minutes.
17:25<blast007>Ano_Nym_1111: are you sure the root path is actually correct? additionally, you probably want #debian-next for testing support. (and use paste.debian.net instead of pastebin.com)
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17:27<Ano_Nym_1111>i booted the old kernel after that. everythings ok with 3.2.0-4-kirkwood, ok, will wait in debian-next.
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18:03<max_>hi all
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18:08<retrospectacus>hi max
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18:10<nagareboshi>Hello mates.
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18:11<edison>hello
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18:13<max_>I need help about a hacked server
18:13<retrospectacus>max_: a Debian server?
18:13<max_>retrospectacus, debian7
18:14<retrospectacus>max_: ok, go ahead and describe... on one line
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18:14<max_>I've a problem with a crew
18:14<max_>netstat -putan
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18:14<max_>tcp 0 0 192.168.1.250:49694 94.23.217.123:6667 ESTABLISHED
18:15<max_>94.23.217.123/6667
18:15<max_>are home of this crew
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18:15<max_>I spoke and I meet Gabryel
18:15<abrotman>that's not one line
18:16<max_>the boy that has hacked my server
18:16<retrospectacus>this doesn't sound like a Debian problem
18:16<max_>after bruteforce, hacker has catched the password
18:16<abrotman>that's not one line
18:17<max_>this hacker has installed to /root (I don't have access to that dir) a rootkit or something like it
18:17<max_>abrotman: sorry?
18:17<stderr_dk>!enter
18:17<dpkg>The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel.
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18:17<esseks>max_ what's the actual problem?
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18:18<abrotman>max_: is this a VPS?
18:18<max_>denounce this crew
18:18<max_>abrotman, no: it's a test server (mine)
18:18<retrospectacus>max_: this is Debian support. We don't care about any "crew"
18:18<stderr_dk>max_: If your server has been hacked, there's only one solution: Reinstall and restore your backup.
18:18<ixi>^
18:19<max_>I know, tommorrow
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18:19<abrotman>max_: so what's the problem? turn it off?
18:19<ixi>so what kind of debian support question do you have ?
18:19<esseks>max_, what I don't understand, was this hacked wanted/encouraged? max_, what about dropping a line to the postal police (or what is called in your country)? If not, and if you have evidence and even know the individual, well... It's their buisiness.
18:19<max_>I spoke with several boys and I need to denounce this crew
18:19<esseks>max_ so go and do it
18:20<max_>I'm italian
18:20<max_>Do I need write to abuse?
18:20<retrospectacus>max_: that server is on OVH, you could talk to them.
18:20<max_>what is OVH?
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18:20<abrotman>ask google
18:21<max_>:-P
18:21<retrospectacus>a VPS provider.
18:21<esseks>max_, what do you mean by "Do I need write to abuse?"
18:21<retrospectacus>max_: if you manage find an address you may contact your local Mafia representative ;)
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18:21<max_>abuse = police postal
18:22<abrotman>max_: turn off your compromised server, then contact OVH .. tha
18:22*ixi still not seeing how this is on topic
18:22<max_>ok ok
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18:22<abrotman>max_: good luck
18:22<max_>tommorrow I'll re-install whole system
18:22<max_>thanks for help
18:22<max_>only a question
18:22<stderr_dk>max_: You have turned it off, right?
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18:23<max_>why this crew has installed a bot to my server?
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18:23<esseks>I don't get it... Obviously the only solution is reporting this to the police, what would you do, chase the crew and shot them in the knees?
18:23<abrotman>max_: go turn the damn thing off, that's the end of the discussion
18:23<max_>Immediately I see (by netstat) this connection
18:23<stderr_dk>max_: They hacked your server because they could. Get a better password next time.
18:24<max_>stderr_dk ok thanks :-)
18:24<ixi>don't use passwords
18:24*esseks wonders what a crew exatly is... do we need multiple individuals to try a few thousands password?
18:24<esseks>*s
18:24<abrotman>can we just move on?
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18:55<fixnipples>why is it when I open a text file in windows it opens right up with minial cpu usage, but when I open the same file in debian wheezy 100% cpu for 10 minutes until it finally finishes opening the text file
18:55<fixnipples>a million lines or so, but why does windows have no issues handling it
18:56<fixnipples>is it because the text file has hidden dos format?
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18:56<SamB>what are you using to open the file?
18:56<fixnipples>anything, gedit, nano, bluefish w/e
18:56<fixnipples>same results
18:56<fixnipples>they are text files that were created in xp
18:57<fixnipples>Do I need to strip the dos bullshit off them to make them open properly in nix?
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18:57<SamB>and what program do you open them with in XP?
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19:02<fixnipples>notepad++
19:03<abrotman>10 minutes eh?
19:03<fixnipples>well, its not 10 minutes, but its an absurd amount of time none the less
19:03<fixnipples>its hindering my ability to work
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19:03<fixnipples>xp opens them instantly with notepad++, the entire file
19:03<fixnipples>debian has to like, scroll the document line by line by line
19:04<fixnipples>and it takes forever
19:04<abrotman>less enter key please
19:04<retrospectacus>if a file is that big it's probably a log, in which case use a pager like less or more, not an editor
19:04<fixnipples>hell I can open a file, make an edit, save the file, and itll erase a lot of the file because debian is still opening it when I save it
19:04<fixnipples>abrotman go fuck yourself please
19:04<fixnipples>Im sick of your shitty attitude
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19:05<retrospectacus>fixnipples: using Enter sparingly is a rule here, and abrotman is a channel operator
19:06<abrotman>fixnipples: that was completely uncalled for, I asked you to stop hitting enter because it makes it harder to follow the conversation for those trying to help you
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19:41<pencilandpaper>whats up peoples.
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19:56<musca>pencilandpaper: a new version of fotoxx http://www.kornelix.com/fotoxx.html
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19:58<law>Hi. Can anyone give me a hint how to create a simple debian package. I don't have any upstream source, just a few php files I'd like to install. How do I create a skeleton that is later used for dh?
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19:59<pencilandpaper>nice musca..thanks man. i appreciate it.
19:59<musca>your nick inspired me :)
19:59<pencilandpaper>i was on another channel. when i saw this one light up i came to see what was happening.
20:00<pencilandpaper>well good musca.;)
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20:00<abrotman>dpkg: tell law about nmg
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20:03<pencilandpaper>there are a few .deb's in the lmde repo's that you cant find in other debian repo's. the thing is this..you may have an issue with dependencies being met.
20:04<pencilandpaper>also i guess that if you want to blend lmde and pure debian repo's..you want to delete your etc/apt/preferences..then things go smoothly.
20:04<abrotman>this isn't #lmde
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20:05<law>abrotman, thx. will take a look if I find the tools I need...
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20:08<pencilandpaper>i know that it isnt abrotman. i was just sayn'.
20:08<musca>pencilandpaper: you could put it into a virtual machine
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20:15<pencilandpaper>put what on a virtual machine musca?
20:15<musca>lmde as a guest os. It's easy.
20:16<pencilandpaper>o ok, i see what you mean. well the thing is musca..i cant run a virtual machine man.
20:16<pencilandpaper>i have a single core laptop.
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20:18<pencilandpaper>i am actually using lmde musca. what i did was removed all of the lmde repo's..and used jessie's repo's..updated..
20:18<pencilandpaper>then readded the lmde repos. so i am essentially using jessie..with the lmde repo's added back.
20:18<pencilandpaper>or essentially lmde while having jessie's repos..so its a nice setup.
20:19<pencilandpaper>i got wifi as well..which if i dont have i cant be online.
20:19<musca>not my way. I'm off to sleep.
20:20<pencilandpaper>i hear ya. goodnight to you.
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21:14<pablo>hello guys, which package do you recommend iputils-ping or inetutils-ping?
21:14<pablo>which is the difference?
21:16<abrotman>read the package descriptoins
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21:17<pablo>abrotman: its almost the same
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21:21<abrotman>pablo: exactly the same?
21:21<abrotman>they're not eh same
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21:51<Kamzor>Hi all, I'm looking for a new notebook for a work, and I found Lenovo Y580 that may meet my requirements. However I cant find it in any HCL. I was looking on forums and found much miscellaneous informations, from 'You can't install Linux on it', to 'It works perfectly!'. Anyone have knowledge how it really is? Most posts indicated that there is a problem with graphics, because it has both integrated Intel and Geforce cards. How it really w
21:51<Kamzor>orks? Or meaby you will help me to find nice notebook for work? I really dont wanna but expensive notebook that will not work :(
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21:53<Kamzor>They said it geforce works with bumblebee but is it comfortable? And will I be able to get full performance on normal work?
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21:55<Nemoder>the intel side should work fine for normal work, but you wont be able to run much in the way of 3d apps or games without bumblebee
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22:00<gsimmons>Kamzor: The HCL at http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ has PCI information on this model (three submissions) that you can query. At least for support of its Ethernet, the alx driver is included in Debian 7 "Wheezy" Linux kernel images.
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22:16<Kamzor>gsimmons: wow, there are even four submissions. But no one says anything about geforce card. One says thats not identified by kernel due to a bug, but is should be fixed in kernel 3.9.
22:16<Kamzor>anyway i don't know hardware. Are most of new notebooks with integrated and normal graphic card? Is not integrated card slowing overall performance? Meaby you know any source where I can find list of hi-performance, linux compatible notebooks?
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22:18<Kamzor>Or even try to convince me that I will not regret buying this Y580 and using with bumblebee
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22:56<doco>am I the only one here?
22:57<doco>come back
22:58<doco>k bye
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23:26<cjac>are we still winning?
23:26<Infiltrator>cjac: Winning what?
23:27<SamB>You mean, is Debian still more working than the other distributions? I suspect so.
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23:38<cjac>Infiltrator: make it mean what you want it to and then answer. SamB's got it.
23:38<cjac>SamB: good to hear.
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23:47<tiger_113>hello all
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23:47<tiger_113>i want to know if the intel N2600 CPU has the VGA driver on Debian7.1.0?
23:48<tiger_113>who can help me ?
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23:53<tiger_113>no body answer my question?
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