| --- | Log | opened Fri Aug 02 00:00:11 2013 |
| --- | Day | changed Fri Aug 02 2013 |
| 00:00 | <acerspyro> | ok |
| 00:00 | <acerspyro> | Can I log-in like that through my X display? |
| 00:00 | <acerspyro> | X session manager* |
| 00:00 | <SamB> | huh? |
| 00:01 | <Another> | what *exactly* do you want to do? |
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| 00:06 | <acerspyro> | I have this old iMac G3 computer that I want to connect to my SUSE linux, since my computer can't be everywhere in the house |
| 00:06 | <SamB> | if you want to run an X app on a different computer from the one you're sitting at, just ssh -X then run the program as usual |
| 00:06 | <acerspyro> | ok |
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| 00:06 | <acerspyro> | Will it run if one is i386 and the other is PowerPC? |
| 00:06 | <SamB> | the iMac better be running Debian |
| 00:06 | <acerspyro> | iMac runs debian |
| 00:06 | <SamB> | sure |
| 00:06 | <acerspyro> | SamB: will it lag if the client is slow |
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| 00:06 | <SamB> | it might lag a bit, just try it |
| 00:06 | <acerspyro> | ok |
| 00:06 | <acerspyro> | I need to go off the internet, tho, since I only have 1 ethernet port |
| 00:06 | <acerspyro> | :) |
| 00:06 | <acerspyro> | brb |
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| 00:06 | <vibrantsword> | hello |
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| 00:13 | <acerspyro> | It doesn't works, SamB... |
| 00:13 | <acerspyro> | The ethernet ports aren't lit |
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| 00:14 | <acerspyro> | And yes, I did use a real ethernet cable, I compared it with the one that is currently jacked in |
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| 00:14 | * | SamB isn't sure how to help someone debug ethernet when he can't do that while also connected to the internet ... |
| 00:15 | <acerspyro> | Just switch the wires really fast |
| 00:15 | <acerspyro> | Or I can plug the wire into another machine to test :) |
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| 00:22 | <acerspyro> | Can SamB give me a hint? |
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| 00:23 | <SamB> | well, hmm, do you know about the difference between a crossover cable and a patch cable? |
| 00:23 | <acerspyro> | Nope |
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| 00:23 | <acerspyro> | Is it the blue ans the white one? |
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| 00:28 | <prem_> | is there any working smb.conf file for connecting debian wheezy to Windows AD 2008 |
| 00:28 | <prem_> | i have tried several combinations but nothing works stable |
| 00:28 | <kishore> | hi |
| 00:29 | <prem_> | if console login works., then gdm login doesnt |
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| 00:30 | <acerspyro> | SamB: sorry, power went down |
| 00:30 | <acerspyro> | .-. |
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| 00:33 | <acerspyro> | SamB: so, what kind of wire do I need? |
| 00:34 | <SamB> | acerspyro: if you want to directly wire two ethernet cards together, you probably need to use a crossover cable |
| 00:34 | <acerspyro> | ok |
| 00:34 | <acerspyro> | How do I know? |
| 00:34 | <acerspyro> | Color? |
| 00:34 | <SamB> | there's not necessarily any way to tell by looking at it |
| 00:35 | <acerspyro> | A wire coming from my router to my computer? |
| 00:35 | <acerspyro> | Is this crossover? |
| 00:35 | <SamB> | if you're using a router, that probably has ports that automatically sense whether you're using a crossover cable or a patch cable |
| 00:36 | <SamB> | and "rewire" themselves accordingly |
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| 00:36 | <acerspyro> | I'll check the basement if I can find another wire |
| 00:36 | <acerspyro> | There is no difference with the pins? |
| 00:36 | <SamB> | the difference is in how the pins are connected to the wires inside the cable |
| 00:37 | <acerspyro> | ok |
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| 00:43 | <acerspyro> | didn't find one :( |
| 00:44 | <acerspyro> | I'll try to buy one |
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| 00:46 | <jm_> | you can also buy adapters that convert it, i.e. http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/21ny9VdacvL.jpg |
| 00:49 | <acerspyro> | I'd rather buy what they have in stock, else they need to command it and everything |
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| 00:54 | <child> | acerspyro: you can create your own cable if you have a tool to do that google it |
| 00:55 | <acerspyro> | Didn't think of that one... |
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| 02:22 | <uguser14_> | hiiiii |
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| 02:50 | <gaski> | marcin |
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| 03:00 | <edutech> | hi |
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| 03:53 | <Monty`> | hello all, i have a problem with my xorg.conf |
| 03:54 | <Monty`> | [ 24632.141] Parse error on line 62 of section Device in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf "false" is not a valid keyword in this section |
| 03:54 | <Monty`> | the line i changed is |
| 03:54 | <Monty`> | Option "SwapbuffersWait" flase |
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| 03:55 | <jm_> | it says flase, not false |
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| 03:56 | <jm_> | and "false" |
| 03:56 | <jm_> | do you even need xorg.conf? |
| 03:57 | <Monty`> | no i don't but im trying to turn off vsync |
| 03:57 | <Monty`> | keep getiing 60fps is quake |
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| 03:57 | <peter1139> | is that a problem? |
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| 03:59 | <Monty`> | yes, it's for quake |
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| 03:59 | <Monty`> | game phyics depents on fps count |
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| 04:01 | <Monty`_> | yeah, i tryed ''true'' and ''fasle'' didn't work :/ |
| 04:02 | <phillipsjk> | I thought somebody made a patched version of quake that always jumps max_height |
| 04:02 | <SynrG> | 'fasle' is also not 'false' |
| 04:03 | <Monty`_> | yeah i did type false |
| 04:03 | <Monty`_> | also pmove_fixed isn't used online |
| 04:03 | <kanliot> | i had vsync probs in mplayer, used it by switching GL libs |
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| 04:04 | <jm_> | it has to be "false" not false |
| 04:04 | <Monty`_> | ok trying this |
| 04:05 | <kanliot> | i have a slightly relevant thought. is it only the cheapo hardware manufacturers that are keeping LCDs from syncing to the pc, instead of the lcd having no sync as it is now |
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| 04:06 | <Monty`_> | thanks jm_ that worked =) |
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| 04:06 | <jm_> | Monty`_: no worries |
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| 04:08 | <peter1139> | kanliot, what does that mean? |
| 04:08 | <petn-randall> | Monty`_: You want to test the bug when the FPS is really high with the quake engines? |
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| 04:09 | <Monty`> | what bug do mean? |
| 04:09 | <kanliot> | if you run at 60fps, why is there a lag btween the time the frame is sent to the lcd, and the time it is displayed? |
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| 04:09 | <jm_> | because it needs to be processed? |
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| 04:10 | <kanliot> | that sounds like crap hardware lcd makers that dont care about how much latency happens after the frame is sent over the DVI cable\ |
| 04:11 | <Monty`> | now I have 125fps with tearing :> |
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| 04:12 | <jm_> | well there's little point in every monitor having low input lag - buy known good ones if you need it (i.e. do your research - I did pay attention to that when buying mine) |
| 04:12 | * | kanliot mumbles something about steam being non-free |
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| 04:13 | <kanliot> | the point is that nobody even cares to make a low-latency standard. if they wanted to get latency below 5ms they could, instead its' 10x higher, who knows, it's not even synced up, so the latency changes everytime you reboot anyhow |
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| 04:17 | <phillipsjk> | Ad heavy and probably OT: http://www.geek.com/chips/john-carmack-explains-why-its-faster-to-send-a-packet-to-europe-than-a-pixel-to-your-screen-1487079/ |
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| 04:18 | <kanliot> | tyvm phillpsjk yeha i've read that, but computer monitors are probably better than carmacks worst case. |
| 04:19 | <phillipsjk> | I blame DRM :P |
| 04:20 | <phillipsjk> | HDCP has got to cause lag. |
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| 04:20 | <kanliot> | i thinnk carmack just gave a new keynote speech on VR. input lag is hugly important there because the head tracking makes people sensitive to it |
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| 04:34 | <ch1ld> | how to redirect some ip:port to some domain? |
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| 04:36 | <car> | hi, is there a way to check which services would automatically restart if i do an apt-get upgrade? Any hint? |
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| 04:36 | <jm_> | shouldn't that be obvious from apt-get -s upgrade output? |
| 04:36 | <car> | no |
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| 04:39 | <car> | jm_, apt-get -s only shows Inst and Conf notifications, but its not obvious if a service requires a restart |
| 04:40 | <car> | unfortunately |
| 04:40 | <Blizzbob> | ch1ld: you have register the ip |
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| 04:41 | <ch1ld> | register ip? |
| 04:41 | <jm_> | car: I thought if the package has an init script it's restarted unless policy prevents it |
| 04:42 | <car> | jm_ : okay - makes sense |
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| 04:52 | <Saurabh_> | hello folks |
| 04:52 | <Saurabh_> | i'm a 1st debain user |
| 04:52 | <Saurabh_> | trying to setup debain 6.0.7 squeeze on a dell r520 |
| 04:52 | <Saurabh_> | need help with NIC & raid controller drivers |
| 04:53 | <Saurabh_> | i have a BCM5720 and H710 mini controller |
| 04:53 | <Saurabh_> | can some1 please point me from where can I get the necessary drivers for this.. |
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| 04:56 | <stderr> | judd: pciname bcm5720 |
| 04:56 | <judd> | 'bcm5720' matched: [14e4:165f] 'NetXtreme BCM5720 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe' from 'Broadcom Corporation' |
| 04:56 | <stderr> | judd: pciid 14e4:165f |
| 04:56 | <judd> | [14e4:165f] is 'NetXtreme BCM5720 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe' from 'Broadcom Corporation' with kernel module 'tg3' in wheezy. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=14e4:165f |
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| 04:57 | <stderr> | Saurabh_: Squeeze is old-stable, so I'm not sure what kernel module you need there, but now you know what module you need if you upgrade to wheezy. |
| 04:58 | <roy_> | Saurabh_, will you be using the raid controller as JBOD? |
| 04:58 | <Supaplex> | Saurabh_: if it's a new setup, I'd grab the newest release for better overall support down the road |
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| 04:59 | <Saurabh_> | Supaplex: i'd love to use the latest.. but we are evaluating a product that particularly requires that release :( |
| 05:00 | <Myon> | Saurabh_: well that'd be the first minus point on the evaluation report :) |
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| 05:02 | <stderr> | Saurabh_: You can expect support for squeeze to end around May 2014. |
| 05:02 | <stderr> | Can you tell us what product you're evaluating? |
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| 05:11 | <mtf> | hi |
| 05:11 | <mtf> | how r u |
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| 05:12 | <weasel> | irritated by an unusual amount of single letter words am I |
| 05:13 | <stderr> | And we didn't even get a chance to answer... |
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| 05:25 | <_rsc`> | hi |
| 05:28 | <stderr> | Hi. |
| 05:29 | <stderr> | Any Debian questions? |
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| 05:38 | <_rsc`> | stderr: Not now, thanks. ;-) |
| 05:38 | <Saurabh_> | roy_: no. intrnal controller |
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| 05:42 | <Saurabh_> | stderr: spamexperts |
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| 05:46 | <Saurabh_> | copying from their doc "The current supported version is Debian 6.0 ("Squeeze")." |
| 05:46 | <roy_> | Saurabh_, you probably don't need other drivers if you are just using it as a controller |
| 05:47 | <roy_> | but if you need raid support, you should find utils for it |
| 05:47 | <roy_> | if it is HW raid |
| 05:47 | <stderr> | Saurabh_: Yeah, I saw that. I'm reading their install guide now to try to figure out if it would run without problems on wheezy. |
| 05:48 | <stderr> | I do think you should contact them and tell them that squeeze is old... |
| 05:48 | <Saurabh_> | roy_: i'm indeed having a raid-1 setup. the installer detects the controller but the post reboot after install the os doesnt see the controller |
| 05:48 | <Saurabh_> | hardware raid |
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| 05:50 | <roy_> | oh, that is weird... installer has other drivers than the normal kernel?! |
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| 05:53 | <stderr> | Saurabh_: If you're using hardware RAID, the OS might not see the control, but does it see a "disk"? |
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| 05:59 | <bulubai> | how can i install android adb? |
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| 06:01 | <Supaplex> | stderr, Saurabh_, roy_, I'd check the sha1 sums of the kernel images to be more difinitive. Perhaps d-i kernel is older than what it is downloading and installing from the mirror. |
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| 06:05 | <Supaplex> | I've seen initrd creation prompt to package all drivers in the initrd image. If you get that choice, or you learn how to refresh the image with all drivers, I would suggest that as well. |
| 06:06 | <stderr> | /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf => MODULES=most |
| 06:07 | <stderr> | Check /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/* too... |
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| 06:09 | <Supaplex> | doesn't d-i save logs? If you can copy those (usb, scp, seperave /boot or other vfat partition, any other creative way) they might shed light on something else we can spot |
| 06:09 | <stderr> | /var/log/installer/ |
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| 06:10 | <Schard> | Hi how can i connect to a FTP server over ssl with lftp |
| 06:13 | <stderr> | Schard: Do you mean sftp? |
| 06:14 | <kanliot> | Schard, this is a guess, but first you ssh, then you install and run lftp |
| 06:14 | <Schard> | no LFTP with FTPS |
| 06:14 | <Schard> | http://paste.debian.net/hidden/826897ce/ |
| 06:15 | <Schard> | this is what i tryed |
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| 06:15 | <Schard> | and i get |
| 06:16 | <stderr> | I don't know lftp, but didn't you forget a " in line 10? |
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| 06:16 | <Schard> | 530 USE SECURE DATA CONNECTION |
| 06:17 | <Schard> | 533 Requested action not taken. You must upload sfv first |
| 06:17 | <Schard> | @stderr no |
| 06:18 | <feke> | retrospectacus: thanks for helping out yesterday. |
| 06:18 | <feke> | retrospectacus: it works now (but with oracle) |
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| 06:20 | <Schard> | " it was not copied |
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| 06:25 | <stderr> | Schard: It looks like you typed a bunch of commands and then you got two errors. Try typing one command at a time and see which one fails. |
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| 06:28 | <Supaplex> | set -x is your friend in sh/bash (or as a one off, use bash -x myscript.sh) |
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| 06:29 | <stderr> | I mean FTP commands... |
| 06:29 | <Supaplex> | my bad. |
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| 06:31 | <Supaplex> | what's the performance/feature/etc difference between foss xserver-xorg-video-radeon, and fglrx? what am I missing out if I use the FOSS drivers? |
| 06:31 | <Schard> | the last command fails line 10 |
| 06:32 | <Supaplex> | and if it makes any difference, this is regarding: 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS880M [Mobility Radeon HD 4200 Series] [1002:9712] |
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| 06:33 | <Schard> | i get a connection on the server and i can navigate through |
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| 06:36 | <mongrol> | hmm, sid appears to be missing headers for 3.2.0-4 |
| 06:40 | <stderr> | !sid |
| 06:40 | <dpkg> | sid is, like, the codename for <unstable>, named after the kid in Toy Story that breaks toys. The great thing about running sid is that, when it breaks you get to keep ALL the pieces!! |
| 06:41 | <jm_> | why would you use 3.2.0 with sid? |
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| 06:50 | <Supaplex> | 3.2 sounds too old for sid anyway. you want Linux 3.11 for workgroups at least. |
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| 06:53 | <babilen> | "at least" ? Which year are you from time traveller? |
| 06:54 | <babilen> | oh |
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| 06:54 | <babilen> | forget that -- sometimes I maybe shouldn't take things in the support channel to seriously. |
| 06:54 | <babilen> | *too |
| 06:55 | <Supaplex> | well, it's a /. story reference too :) |
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| 06:56 | <Supaplex> | according to kernel.org, 3.11-rc3 is mainline (3.10.4 is stable) |
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| 06:58 | <Monty`> | i tried 3.11-rc3 , coudn't get pass initramfs |
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| 06:59 | <Supaplex> | it's bleeding edge. recent mailing list activity suggests it's experimental |
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| 06:59 | <Supaplex> | s/suggests/implies/ etc etc |
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| 07:39 | <Supaplex> | http://paste.debian.net/plain/22119 How do I uninstall that last package? |
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| 07:44 | <ZIPY_> | hi, when i create a custom startup script in init.d, it works when i start it up manually but why doesnt it start at boot? |
| 07:45 | <ZIPY_> | do i have to link it somewhere else? |
| 07:45 | <jm_> | ZIPY_: man insserv |
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| 07:49 | <musca> | Supaplex: please let us know: aptitude why libfglrx |
| 07:51 | <Supaplex> | http://paste.debian.net/22124/ also aiming to use legacy fglrx (asap) |
| 07:52 | <Supaplex> | "why" is a cool knob. I dig it. |
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| 07:53 | <Calinou> | why use fglrx with a low end IGP? |
| 07:54 | <Supaplex> | I tried to ask what am I missing in FOSS vs fglrx. Didn't get an answer, so .. here I am trying it. |
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| 07:56 | <Calinou> | recent FOSS gives what you need |
| 07:56 | <jcrowgey> | hi debian ppl, i finally got the install to complete by skiipping some packages and installing the desktop environment myself. now i'm finally out of installer land and i'm in a working install! hooray. i've got one more question that i hope you can help with. |
| 07:56 | <Calinou> | you don't care about 3D performance usually |
| 07:57 | <Calinou> | jcrowgey: inb4 non-working wifi :P |
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| 07:57 | <musca> | congratulations jcrowgey |
| 07:58 | <Supaplex> | well, performance and features. as long as the difference is negligible, I'm okay with that. (eg, vesa+swrender vs 3d are very different things) |
| 07:58 | <jcrowgey> | Calinou: I'm not sure what inb4 means but you're right that it has to do with wifi. when installing the network-manager package a package called libpcslite1 is pulled in. and the problem is that it gives the size mismatch error. |
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| 07:59 | <jcrowgey> | i've tried apt-get clean && apt-get update and that doesn't help. i've also tried just doing aptitude download libpcsclite1 and then trying to use dpkg -i to install it myself. but that's failing as well. can you guys advise? |
| 07:59 | <Monty`> | what kind of wifi chip? |
| 07:59 | <Calinou> | lol, I guessed |
| 07:59 | <Calinou> | Supaplex: SW render is inefficient anyway |
| 08:00 | -!- | mode/#debian [+l 604] by debhelper |
| 08:00 | <Supaplex> | yes, it's an analogy for comparison |
| 08:01 | <Supaplex> | i think i'll go with the foss drivers and call it good. |
| 08:01 | <musca> | ,v libpcslite1 |
| 08:01 | <judd> | No package named 'libpcslite1' was found in i386. |
| 08:01 | <jcrowgey> | Calinou, well you are certainly close. In fact the wifi card does work. I can use iwlist, iwconfig and dhclient to connect to open wifi networks and that's fine. the issue is installing a network manager (because as much as I love the command line, I don't want to have to use iwlist to find networks whereever I go). |
| 08:02 | <Monty`> | Supaplex: http://xorg.freedesktop.org/wiki/RadeonFeature/ |
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| 08:02 | <jcrowgey> | As to the wifichip it's a broadcom BCM4313 (that's according to lspci) |
| 08:02 | <Monty`> | i think u are using r700 |
| 08:02 | <Calinou> | lol broadcom |
| 08:02 | <Calinou> | Supaplex: you should, fglrx is known to suck a lot anyway |
| 08:02 | <jcrowgey> | judd, I don't know if you were commenting on my issue with libpcsclite1 but i'm on amd64 (for one thing). |
| 08:02 | <judd> | No package named 'don't' was found in wheezy/amd64. |
| 08:03 | <Supaplex> | judd: good bot |
| 08:03 | <jcrowgey> | Ok, i get it judd is a bot. |
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| 08:03 | <musca> | ,v libpcsclite1 --arch amd64 |
| 08:03 | <judd> | Package: libpcsclite1 on amd64 -- squeeze: 1.5.5-4; squeeze-backports: 1.8.4-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 1.8.4-1+deb7u1; jessie: 1.8.8-3; sid: 1.8.8-4 |
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| 08:04 | <jcrowgey> | judd, libpcsclite1 |
| 08:04 | <jcrowgey> | okay, musca what can i do with this info? |
| 08:04 | <jcrowgey> | i'm tracking wheezy. |
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| 08:04 | <musca> | it'S okay, my bad i searched on i386 |
| 08:05 | <jcrowgey> | libpcsclite1 amd64 1.8.4-1+deb7u1 is indeed the package that's failing for me. |
| 08:05 | <musca> | !BCM4313 |
| 08:05 | <dpkg> | The Broadcom BCM4313 (PCI ID 14e4:4727) - incorrectly identified as BCM4727 by Broadcom's proprietary driver - is an 802.11n PCIe wireless LAN chipset. Not supported by the <b43> driver at this time. For device support, ask about me about <brcmsmac>. Not to be confused with the <bcm4331>. |
| 08:05 | <jcrowgey> | musca do you mind interpreting the info that you're pulling out of these bots? |
| 08:06 | <Monty`> | !brcmsmac |
| 08:06 | <dpkg> | brcmsmac (brcm80211 prior to Linux 2.6.39) is an open source <mac80211> driver, supporting 802.11n PCIe devices based on Broadcom <BCM4313>, <BCM43224> and <BCM43225> chips. Firmware is required (bcm43xx-0.fw, bcm43xx_hdr-0.fw), ask me about <non-free sources> and install the firmware-brcm80211 package to provide. Access point and adhoc modes are supported since Linux 3.10. http://wiki.debian.org/brcm80211 |
| 08:06 | <musca> | yes |
| 08:06 | <jcrowgey> | I followed the instructions here https://wiki.debian.org/brcm80211 |
| 08:06 | <jcrowgey> | as i was linked to them from this page: https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Acer/AspireOne_722 |
| 08:06 | <Supaplex> | you can also /query dpkg for factoid queries (less noise in #debian) |
| 08:06 | <jcrowgey> | because that is the model of my laptop. |
| 08:07 | <jcrowgey> | if i were using the wrong wifi driver, then i believe that that would prevent me from connecting to wireless networks. however that's not my symptom. i can connect to networks, i just can't seem to install the network-manager so that i can do it from the gui and save my nets etc. |
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| 08:08 | <Monty`> | why don't just config ur /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 08:09 | <Monty`> | after that will only use ifup/ifdown |
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| 08:09 | <jcrowgey> | Monty that's fine, but i take this laptop mobile and i would like to have an icon on the desktop whereby i can see a scan of the nearby wifis and select one as i prefer. do you think there's something missing in my /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 08:09 | <Supaplex> | nm and /etc/network/interfaces don't share well. |
| 08:10 | <jcrowgey> | ok, so i guess i'm really really interested in addressing the size mismatch issue which is preventing me from installing network-manager. can anyone comment on that? |
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| 08:11 | <Monty`> | erm you can try wicd |
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| 08:11 | <Monty`> | it's a wireless network manager |
| 08:11 | <musca> | jcrowgey: you can try another debian mirror. |
| 08:12 | <jcrowgey> | ok, let's pretend that i never mentioned a wifi device. i'm just a debian philosopher interested in finding out what to do in the general case when you see a size mismatch error |
| 08:12 | <jcrowgey> | Monty: I have tried wicd in the past. It's okay. |
| 08:12 | <Supaplex> | jcrowgey: how long ago? |
| 08:12 | <jcrowgey> | musca, I have tried 4 different mirrors. 2 in the united states 1 in german and 1 in france. I am currently in Germany. |
| 08:13 | <jcrowgey> | Supaplex: last week. |
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| 08:13 | * | Supaplex gives up |
| 08:13 | <Monty`> | well do what musca sayed, try another mirror |
| 08:13 | <Monty`> | said* |
| 08:14 | <jcrowgey> | Supaplex gives up because he is not addressing my question. I do appreciate the advice Supa. But I'm really interestted in the size mismatch error and figuring out how to clean it up. |
| 08:14 | <abrotman> | jcrowgey: you came back .. |
| 08:15 | <Supaplex> | I get it! go on. do your thing. |
| 08:15 | <jcrowgey> | Hi abrotman, I always come back here eventually. |
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| 08:15 | <jcrowgey> | Monty, musca, I will try yet another mirror. One moment or two please :) |
| 08:16 | <Supaplex> | i'm probably too tired, but that still comes out condescending. good luck and all. |
| 08:16 | <abrotman> | anyone considered a mangling proxy? |
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| 08:20 | <jcrowgey> | okay, switched to ftp.de.debian.org and now running apt-get clean && apt-get update && apt-get install network-manager |
| 08:21 | <jcrowgey> | Failed to fetch http://ftp.de.debian.org/pub/debian/pool/main/p/pscs-lite/libpcslite1_1.8.4-1+deb7u1_amd64.deb Size mismatch. |
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| 08:23 | <jcrowgey> | I think this is the first time i've ever stumped the debian room. What is happening to the world ?! |
| 08:23 | <|Frederik> | Since the openjdk security update in wheezy, I hava a java app which does not find a class which is present in a jar in /usr/share/java . Has something changed in this new openjdk version related to default classpath or something lke that? |
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| 08:24 | <andy> | hi |
| 08:24 | <Supaplex> | jcrowgey: what's the http modify time of that file? If it's newer than the index files, then the mirror is apparently a moving target. |
| 08:24 | <jcrowgey> | wow, okay so i went with Supa's suggestion and tried to install wicd but in fact tht is pulling in libpcsclite as well so i get the same error. |
| 08:24 | <jcrowgey> | Supaplex, where to I check for that? |
| 08:25 | <jcrowgey> | Sorry, not clear, i mean where do I check for the index files and the http modify time? |
| 08:25 | <Monty`> | http://packages.debian.org/sid/libpcsclite1 |
| 08:25 | <Monty`> | can u do it manualy? |
| 08:26 | <Supaplex> | I get 404. HEAD http://foo ... mm, I forget how to see the index files apt-get pulls in (running on fumes here) |
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| 08:27 | <jcrowgey> | Monty, but I'm tracking wheezy, not sid. Shouldn't I check ...org/wheezy/lipbcsclite1 |
| 08:27 | <Monty`> | oh sorry my bad |
| 08:27 | <Supaplex> | jcrowgey: http://paste.debian.net/plain/22146 |
| 08:28 | <Monty`> | http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/libpcsclite1 |
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| 08:29 | <jcrowgey> | Supaplex, that is an important piece of information that you've found (I believe). If the package is really 404, then why does apt think that I need it? |
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| 08:30 | <Monty`> | becuase it's a dep for wpasupplicant |
| 08:30 | <Supaplex> | it's apparently a dependency, or perhaps a reccomends. I guess I'd try yet another mirror (and keep them to a minimum) until it gets more stable (then revert to close/faster/etc) |
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| 08:31 | <Supaplex> | anywho, fsck.brains checked foced. /dev/brain's gone countless hours since the last check. ttyl. |
| 08:31 | <jcrowgey> | well, does this mean that there's problem with the deb repo and not with my machine? |
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| 08:32 | <Monty`> | have u tried http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/libpcsclite1 |
| 08:32 | <Monty`> | and gave u the same error? |
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| 08:32 | <jcrowgey> | Monty, yes I"m looking at that page right now. |
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| 08:35 | <jcrowgey> | weird, i tried to download the deb package from that site but i just downloaded a file of 0 bytes. |
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| 08:35 | <Monty`> | i think that mis match error got to do with the cache tho |
| 08:35 | <Monty`> | aptitude clean |
| 08:35 | <Monty`> | should fix it |
| 08:36 | <jcrowgey> | i've been trying apt-get clean and it hasn't helped. i'll try aptitude clean now. however if the package is 404 on all the debian mirrors then i think no amount of cleaning will help me. |
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| 08:37 | <jcrowgey> | correct, aptitude clean is not helping any more than apt-get clean. i'm thinking that this package is missing from the repo. |
| 08:37 | <Monty`> | yeah im getting 404 |
| 08:37 | <jcrowgey> | if anyone else is running wheezy, could they try aptitude download libpcsclite1 and confirm that it is missing. |
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| 08:38 | <less> | A 404 generally indicates a faulty or outdated URL. |
| 08:39 | <Supaplex> | jcrowgey: http://paste.debian.net/22149/ |
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| 08:39 | <less> | If the wrong URL is present on all machines, they will all generate the 404 error. |
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| 08:40 | <Supaplex> | and now my freshly installed machine does not sleep with the lid closed (external monitor) I'm really going away now. :) try my mirror. have fun. |
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| 08:40 | <less> | No matter the distribution or release. |
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| 08:40 | <jcrowgey> | Supaplex, thanks, is there a url for that mirror that i should try? |
| 08:40 | <Monty`> | http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/p/pcsc-lite/libpcsclite1_1.8.4-1+deb7u1_amd64.deb |
| 08:40 | <jcrowgey> | less, can you advise about how to proceed? |
| 08:41 | <less> | Check the URL in sources.lst, can the server be pinged with success? |
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| 08:42 | <less> | If not, maybe Google knows of a server that is alive and can serve what you need. |
| 08:43 | <jcrowgey> | less, the server is responding. all the mirrors i've tried are responding. i've installed about 500 packages in the last hour or so (fresh install). i'm currently installing icedove with no problem. it seems to be only the libpcsclite1 package which is missing. |
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| 08:43 | <less> | ok |
| 08:43 | <jcrowgey> | less, i believe you can confirm this for yourself. simply visit http://yourfavoritedebmirror/debian/pool/main/p/pcsc-lite/libpcsclite1_1.8.4-1+deb7u1_amd64.deb |
| 08:44 | <less> | Can you track who is responsible for maintaining that package? |
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| 08:44 | <Monty`> | yourfavoritedebmirror? really? |
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| 08:44 | <less> | He or she might know something, or simply needs to be told about the problem. |
| 08:44 | <jcrowgey> | Monty, i meant that as a metavariable, not a direct url. |
| 08:44 | <Monty`> | :> |
| 08:45 | <jcrowgey> | less, do you know where i find that information? |
| 08:45 | <less> | No, sorry. |
| 08:45 | <jcrowgey> | i could try deb-src and build maybe. i haven't built debian packages from the repo in quite a while. |
| 08:46 | <less> | That's a possibility alright. |
| 08:46 | <Monty`> | jcrowgey: can't u just use link i just posted? |
| 08:46 | <Monty`> | http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/p/pcsc-lite/libpcsclite1_1.8.4-1+deb7u1_amd64.deb |
| 08:46 | <Monty`> | libpcsclite1_1.8.4-1+deb7u1_amd64.deb is what u looking for, right? |
| 08:47 | <Monty`> | also the maintainer is Ludovic Rousseau |
| 08:48 | <jcrowgey> | Monty that's right, but for me it fails to download any info. I get a 5KB file or something |
| 08:48 | <jcrowgey> | oh shit, maybe it's this damn hotel firewall, |
| 08:48 | <jcrowgey> | i just looked inside the file that downloaded when i tried aptitdude download libp... and it's an html file that says url blocked! |
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| 08:49 | <glypseme_30ath> | geia |
| 08:49 | <jcrowgey> | this damn hotel has been making my life hell blocking on wird strings if you send unencrypted http. i've found that i can get around it sometimes by using https (or by sshing into another computer and using lynx or whatever). |
| 08:49 | <glypseme_30ath> | hi |
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| 08:49 | <jcrowgey> | would one of you guys be so kind as to email me that deb (assuming you can download it ok) |
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| 08:49 | <less> | Right. |
| 08:50 | <jcrowgey> | anyone mind doing a brother a favor like that? |
| 08:50 | <jcrowgey> | actually should be able to download it from the computer at my uni that i can ssh into. |
| 08:50 | <Monty`> | can u use tor? or everything for u is blocked right now? |
| 08:51 | <less> | Another victim of senseless blacklisting. |
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| 08:51 | <babilen> | dpkg: tell Monty` -about u |
| 08:51 | <Monty`> | oh my bad :> |
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| 08:52 | <jcrowgey> | Monty, could use tor, but it seems to be a simple string match on url. The other night i was nearly killing myself trying to resolve a LaTeX issue. Every single page that had the string latex anywhere in the url was blocked. i have no idea what it is about libpcsclite that is they don't like they say it's blacklisted in "Sex". which would be funny if it wasnt wasting so many of my hours. |
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| 08:52 | <jcrowgey> | it is possible to do apt over https? |
| 08:52 | <peter1139> | jcrowgey, "clit" |
| 08:53 | <jcrowgey> | peter oh god i'm sure you're right. |
| 08:53 | <babilen> | m( |
| 08:53 | <dooms> | victim of a simple string match |
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| 08:54 | <less> | Senseless blacklisting. |
| 08:54 | <jcrowgey> | ok, so does anyone have the direct url for that package again? I'll try to get it via wget on the server at my Uni and then scp it to myself here. |
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| 08:54 | <Monty`> | http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/p/pcsc-lite/libpcsclite1_1.8.4-1+deb7u1_amd64.deb |
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| 08:55 | <Xylon> | jcrowgey, http://charlieharvey.org.uk/page/ssh_socks_proxy |
| 08:55 | <Xylon> | That's what I would do |
| 08:55 | <peter1139> | now go complain to the hotel |
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| 08:55 | <Xylon> | Oh, caveat of my method |
| 08:55 | <Xylon> | Doesn't pass your ICMP or DNS traffic over the proxy. Sniffers could figure out what sites you were visiting, for example. |
| 08:56 | <jcrowgey> | Monty, i'm getting 404 from wget on that url. |
| 08:56 | <Monty`> | works for me |
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| 08:57 | <jcrowgey> | peter1139, i have complained, but they are not really going to change anything for me. |
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| 09:00 | <jcrowgey> | oh i had an error in the url, now this is weird. wget says downloaded 57K, but when i look at the file it downloaded, it's empty?! |
| 09:00 | <jcrowgey> | very very strange. |
| 09:01 | <Monty`> | it's 55.7KB |
| 09:01 | <jcrowgey> | so, if anyone can manage to get a good copy of the deb file, and doesn't mind emailing me, i'm jcrowgey@uw.edu --- i'll love you forever! |
| 09:01 | <Monty`> | dpkg -i libpcsclite1_1.8.4-1+deb7u1_amd64.deb |
| 09:01 | * | dpkg installs libpcsclite1_1.8.4-1+deb7u1_amd64.deb into monty`'s head with a bone saw and a few screws |
| 09:01 | <Monty`> | oh dpkg sorry again |
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| 09:02 | <Monty`> | my first day here and I pissed him twice |
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| 09:02 | <jcrowgey> | right so i'm logged into homer.u.washington.edu and doing wget to get the file but when i check what i downloaded i can't find it. |
| 09:02 | <jcrowgey> | oh, wait i know why that is. |
| 09:03 | <jcrowgey> | i think i'm over my filespace quota on that server (damn what a chain of weird and unfortunate events). |
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| 09:03 | <jcrowgey> | i'm going to clean up some files and try downloading again. |
| 09:03 | * | less nods |
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| 09:05 | <jcrowgey> | oh yeah i got it1 |
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| 09:06 | <jcrowgey> | hot damn i am in business you guys! |
| 09:07 | <jcrowgey> | oh my god what a mess. i'm so glad i eventually got to the bottom of that. my sincere thanks to everyone who advised me. i woulda committed suicide without you (or something). |
| 09:07 | <jcrowgey> | ok, i'm going back to installing a few more packages. till next time my friends. |
| 09:07 | <less> | Cool, succes! |
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| 09:08 | <less> | Remember, Debian loves you. ;-) |
| 09:08 | <jcrowgey> | less, and i *do* love it back. :) ciao for now you guys. |
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| 09:15 | <loulou> | slt vous tous |
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| 11:20 | <gertsu> | moi |
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| 11:38 | <darkangel> | just woundering what is a Generic Image and whats its perpose |
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| 11:39 | <sney> | context? |
| 11:39 | <Guest2103> | its a Update thing |
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| 11:40 | <sney> | where are you seeing this, "generic image" and "update thing" are not very descriptive |
| 11:41 | <Guest2103> | its a Update on Update Manager and says somethin like Linux image 3.5.0-52 Generic |
| 11:42 | <Guest2103> | thats all i havew |
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| 11:43 | <sney> | Guest2103: what debian version is this? |
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| 11:44 | <Guest2103> | is Debian a type of Linux ? |
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| 11:44 | <Guest2103> | Ima Usin Zorin 6 |
| 11:44 | <Guest2103> | based of Ubuntu 12.04 LTS |
| 11:45 | <sney> | ok, then you need to ask in the correct channel for your distribution |
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| 11:45 | <sney> | #debian only supports debian, not ubuntu or anything else based on debian or ubuntu |
| 11:45 | <Guest2103> | what is Debian never heard of it =) |
| 11:46 | <sney> | www.debian.org it is one of the oldest linux distributions, and it's where stuff like apt and dpkg originally come from. your zorin is based on ubuntu which is based on debian |
| 11:46 | <Guest2103> | nice |
| 11:47 | <sney> | !tell Guest2103 about intro |
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| 12:11 | <disposable> | i'm trying to install wheezy on ssd with gpt partition table. i created bios_grub partition in the installer and root filesystem (xfs) on /dev/sda. installer claims it installed grub with no errors, but i can see the following messages in the console - volume group "sda" not found; skipping volume group sda; no DOS partition table on /dev/sda nothing to do. If I just believe the installer, system is unbootable. |
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| 12:17 | <disposable> | so how is one supposed to install wheezy on gpt partitioned disk? |
| 12:17 | <disposable> | i'm using bios, not uefi. |
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| 12:54 | <piricoccu> | ciao a tutti |
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| 13:03 | <micronux> | hey buddys,I got a problem |
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| 13:03 | <retrospectacus> | !ask |
| 13:03 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 13:04 | <micronux> | how to disable the fallback mode with gnome lockscreen |
| 13:05 | <micronux> | I'm running debian 7.. |
| 13:05 | <micronux> | 1 |
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| 13:07 | <micronux> | I want to the same style the lockscreen with gnome 3.4 |
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| 13:08 | <micronux> | I edited the /etc/gdm3/greeter.settings |
| 13:08 | <micronux> | and the loginscreen is gnome-shell style now |
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| 13:09 | <micronux> | but the lockscreen never changed |
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| 13:11 | <micronux> | some helpful idea? |
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| 13:11 | <emiliyan> | hi |
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| 13:12 | <emiliyan> | how to install fglx driver ati radeon HD 3430 |
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| 13:12 | <micronux> | emiliyan:hi can u help me? |
| 13:12 | <emiliyan> | debian wheezy |
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| 13:13 | <emiliyan> | no loaded driver :( |
| 13:13 | <micronux> | official driver is ok |
| 13:13 | <emiliyan> | root@debian:/home/emiliyan/Свалени# aticonfig --list-adapters |
| 13:13 | <emiliyan> | * 0. 01:00.0 ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3430 |
| 13:13 | <emiliyan> | * - Default adapter |
| 13:13 | <micronux> | and install some firmware |
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| 13:14 | <retrospectacus> | dpkg: tell emiliyan about radeon |
| 13:14 | <retrospectacus> | dpkg: tell emiliyan about radeon firmware |
| 13:14 | <retrospectacus> | dpkg: tell emiliyan about fglrx |
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| 13:17 | <micronux> | how to change the lockscreen fallback mode to gnome-shell style?anyone~help~ |
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| 13:39 | <jerryclunsford> | I am running squeeze and most of the time when I do a mouse click it gets t or even three clicks instead of one. Does this with any mouse I try. where do I need to look to correct this? |
| 13:40 | <jerryclunsford> | should be two or even three |
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| 14:02 | <jerryclunsford> | What would cause me to get multiple mouse clicks instead of a single on squeeze? |
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| 14:03 | <iLogical> | I want to migrate from Ubuntu to Debian. I don't know if I choose unstable or testing. |
| 14:04 | <jerryclunsford> | choose stable |
| 14:04 | <lostatwork> | stable |
| 14:04 | <iLogical> | But it doesn't have my applications. |
| 14:04 | <iLogical> | Or does it? |
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| 14:04 | <iLogical> | Does it have GNOME 3? |
| 14:04 | <iLogical> | hmm |
| 14:04 | <iLogical> | I could use XFCE |
| 14:04 | <jerryclunsford> | believe so |
| 14:04 | <iLogical> | Can I put added security features? |
| 14:05 | <jerryclunsford> | Yes |
| 14:05 | <iLogical> | such as firewall by default? |
| 14:05 | <iLogical> | at time of installing? |
| 14:05 | <jerryclunsford> | I don't know about during install |
| 14:07 | <jerryclunsford> | lostatwork can you install a firewall during install latest release? |
| 14:08 | <redshadowhero> | iLogical: stable has Gnome 3. I was on Wheezy on my laptop until yesterday. |
| 14:08 | <lostatwork> | it is not in the default install |
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| 14:09 | <iLogical> | ok |
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| 14:09 | <iLogical> | What if I install debian server stable |
| 14:09 | <iLogical> | does it come with firewall? |
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| 14:10 | <redshadowhero> | It comes with iptables, which should fit most people's needs. |
| 14:10 | <retrospectacus> | there is no "server edition" |
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| 14:10 | <retrospectacus> | all debian comes with iptables |
| 14:10 | <jerryclunsford> | Any one know where I would look to correct multiple mouse clicks instead of single click? |
| 14:10 | <retrospectacus> | you don't really need a firewall untill you start installing services |
| 14:10 | <iLogical> | Is there a GUI for iptables on debian stable repos? |
| 14:11 | <retrospectacus> | iLogical: a few I think. |
| 14:11 | <lostatwork> | yeah there are quite a few |
| 14:11 | <redshadowhero> | according to https://wiki.debian.org/Firewalls , there's 'firestarter'. |
| 14:11 | <retrospectacus> | what do you need a firewall for |
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| 14:11 | <redshadowhero> | "irestarter is an application oriented towards end-users that includes a wizard useful to quickly setup firewall rules. The application includes a GUI to be able to monitor when a firewall rule blocks traffic. |
| 14:11 | <redshadowhero> | s/irestarter/firestarter/ |
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| 14:12 | <lostatwork> | ufw from the command line is really easy to manage as well |
| 14:12 | <lostatwork> | and there is gufw if you want graphical |
| 14:12 | <stderr> | So is iptables... |
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| 14:12 | <iLogical> | Just for added security |
| 14:12 | <redshadowhero> | It's my belief that all of these tools probably interact with iptables anyway. |
| 14:12 | <iLogical> | I will have this machine running CUPS for everyone |
| 14:12 | <iLogical> | in the NAT |
| 14:13 | <iLogical> | then it's possible i will add other kinds of servers |
| 14:13 | <iLogical> | it's for my home actually |
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| 14:13 | <lostatwork> | stderr: I never got the syntax right with iptables from the command line but yes it does work well once you get it |
| 14:13 | <retrospectacus> | I highly doubt you need a firewall at all |
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| 14:14 | <redshadowhero> | Especially not behind a NAT. |
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| 14:14 | <iLogical> | OK. |
| 14:14 | <retrospectacus> | especially especially during installation |
| 14:14 | <stderr> | lostatwork: Just add -h until you get it right. |
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| 14:17 | <lostatwork> | stderr: that would work |
| 14:17 | <retrospectacus> | or ask the google, lots of iptables examples there |
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| 14:18 | <jerryclunsford> | is there a better channel for my problem? |
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| 14:19 | <retrospectacus> | jerryclunsford: perhaps #xorg on irc.freenode.net .. you could always try upgrading to wheezy too. Squeeze is old. |
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| 14:20 | <jerryclunsford> | Thanks, I need to back up a lot of stuff to upgrade. |
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| 14:20 | <retrospectacus> | ... why? upgrading won't destroy anything |
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| 14:21 | <jerryclunsford> | Well maybe I didn't do it right when I upgraded to squeeze but it didn't work and I had to reinstall from scratch. |
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| 14:22 | <jerryclunsford> | So Best to back up |
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| 14:23 | <retrospectacus> | your call. Hundreds/thousands have upgraded with no trouble |
| 14:23 | <jerryclunsford> | You just have to change the repositories and update? |
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| 14:24 | <retrospectacus> | pretty much |
| 14:24 | <retrospectacus> | dpkg: tell jerryclunsford about squeeze->wheezy |
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| 14:26 | <jerryclunsford> | Thanks I'll see what I can find. The error only started recently though after a couple of years strange. |
| 14:26 | <jerryclunsford> | y'all have fun |
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| 15:18 | <giltoon> | hi |
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| 15:22 | <less> | giltoon, if you have a question just ask it. |
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| 15:31 | <giltoon> | I want to pipe WGET output to a remote FTP server (maybe using WPUT) |
| 15:31 | <giltoon> | in a manner that the downloaded file will be directly saved on the FTP server |
| 15:32 | <giltoon> | with nothing saved on local server |
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| 15:32 | <giltoon> | What is the best way to do that |
| 15:32 | <giltoon> | ? |
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| 15:33 | <stderr> | Log in on the FTP server and run wget there... |
| 15:33 | <giltoon> | ? |
| 15:34 | <redshadowhero> | maybe something like wget -O - http://example.com/ | wput ${some_flag_that_provides_stdin} ${additional_arguments} |
| 15:34 | <giltoon> | I can't mount FTP as filesystem, if that's what you mean |
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| 15:34 | <giltoon> | since i'm using an OPENVZ VPS without FUSE kernel module |
| 15:35 | <stderr> | giltoon: I meant ssh login@ftp-server wget --options http://example.com/somefile |
| 15:36 | <giltoon> | I'm not getting you @stderr |
| 15:36 | <giltoon> | how can I SSH into an FTP server? |
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| 15:36 | <stderr> | You know what ssh is? |
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| 15:37 | <giltoon> | sure |
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| 15:37 | <giltoon> | what is: ssh login@ftp-server |
| 15:37 | <giltoon> | ? |
| 15:37 | <stderr> | Can you log in on the FTP server using ssh? |
| 15:38 | <giltoon> | no. That's a remote server. only ftrp |
| 15:38 | <stderr> | Ok, nevermind then... |
| 15:38 | <Nirgal> | giltoon: ssh and ftp are 2 different protocol, using different IP ports and so on.... |
| 15:39 | <Nirgal> | giltoon: If the server has a ssh daemon, you can login to it. If it has a ftp deamon, you can ftp to it. But this is not related. |
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| 15:39 | <giltoon> | Nirgal, I know that already.. that was not my question |
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| 15:41 | <giltoon> | so no way to do that? |
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| 15:41 | <stderr> | giltoon: Is the file you want to transfer on a FTP server already? |
| 15:41 | <redshadowhero> | giltoon: look at curl for this. |
| 15:41 | <giltoon> | no |
| 15:42 | <giltoon> | the file is on my VPS |
| 15:42 | <giltoon> | sorry |
| 15:42 | <redshadowhero> | From the curl manual (http://curl.haxx.se/docs/manual.html): curl -T - ftp://ftp.example.com/filetoput |
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| 15:42 | <redshadowhero> | you could probably do something like wget -q -O - www.example.com/file.ext | curl -T - ftp://ftp.example.com/file.ext |
| 15:42 | <Nirgal> | giltoon: Sorry. Got it. You could mount the ftp server locally, and use that point as a target of your wget? |
| 15:42 | <giltoon> | the file download will start at my VPS, and saving should be done on a REMOTE ftp server |
| 15:43 | <stderr> | giltoon: You can ssh to your VPS, right? |
| 15:43 | <redshadowhero> | Well, I assume some local storage might happen. I don't know how wget buffers the data, either through ram or tmp space. |
| 15:43 | <giltoon> | sure I can |
| 15:43 | <stderr> | Then just transfer the file from there. |
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| 15:45 | <giltoon> | That's the whole point. I don't want my VPS to store the file at any point |
| 15:45 | <stderr> | [21:42:02] <giltoon> the file is on my VPS |
| 15:45 | <stderr> | It's already on your VPS... |
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| 15:45 | <Nirgal> | giltoon: maybe the package curlftpfs can help you. You mount your ftp server locally, then you wget there... |
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| 15:46 | <giltoon|2> | maybe mkfifo |
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| 15:46 | <stderr> | Anyway, as redshadowhero already said: wget | curl |
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| 15:46 | <giltoon|2> | any example? |
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| 15:46 | <giltoon|2> | for the curl part |
| 15:46 | <stderr> | [21:42:14] <redshadowhero> From the curl manual (http://curl.haxx.se/docs/manual.html): curl -T - ftp://ftp.example.com/filetoput |
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| 15:46 | <redshadowhero> | I gave an example a little ea-yeah, that. |
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| 15:49 | <giltoon|2> | Thank you I'll try that |
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| 16:19 | <giltoon> | ok |
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| 16:35 | <dmitry> | hi guys |
| 16:35 | <retrospectacus> | hi dmitry |
| 16:36 | <dmitry> | who used xubuntu 13.04 |
| 16:36 | <retrospectacus> | nobody here - this is #debian |
| 16:36 | <retrospectacus> | !ubuntuirc dmitry |
| 16:36 | <dpkg> | dmitry: This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server chat.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://chat.freenode.net/ubuntu |
| 16:36 | <dmitry> | thanks |
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| 16:43 | <giltoon> | I came across the following example: |
| 16:43 | <giltoon> | wget -O - http://www.example.com/whatever | ssh myserver 'cat >/path/to/remote/destination' |
| 16:44 | <giltoon> | can someone explain why bacticks are used here? |
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| 16:44 | <krc> | ls |
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| 16:45 | <retrospectacus> | giltoon: I don't see any backticks |
| 16:46 | <SamB> | giltoon: probably just someone who doesn't like to think a lot about quoting? |
| 16:46 | <giltoon> | so what is that around the cat command? |
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| 16:46 | <retrospectacus> | those are "single quotes" |
| 16:46 | <krc> | anyone know of problems with Sid xorg ignoring /etc/default/keyboard ? |
| 16:46 | <retrospectacus> | or apostrophes |
| 16:47 | <retrospectacus> | these are backticks `` which have a completely different purpose |
| 16:47 | <SamB> | krc: I've heard someone complaining that gnome overrides that somehow |
| 16:47 | <giltoon> | ok |
| 16:47 | <giltoon> | so why quotes are used here? |
| 16:47 | <krc> | Awesome WM, no DE |
| 16:47 | <retrospectacus> | giltoon: you want to run "cat >/path/to/remote/destination" on the remote server. |
| 16:48 | <SamB> | giltoon: well, to put everyhthing in one shell word and thus one argument, and to avoid the redirection being applied immediately |
| 16:48 | <retrospectacus> | giltoon: if you don't have quotes only cat will run there and the shell redirection will be local |
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| 16:49 | <giltoon> | do you know any link which explains the role of such quotes in general? |
| 16:49 | <krc> | in Xorg.0.log it shows /etc/default/keyboard being applied... but it does not work |
| 16:50 | <retrospectacus> | single quotes? they prevent the shell from splitting arguments on spaces - it makes "cat >/path/to/remote/destination" a single argument (the command for remote) |
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| 16:50 | <retrospectacus> | giltoon: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/Arguments http://wiki.bash-hackers.org/syntax/words |
| 16:50 | <SamB> | giltoon: well, it's a combination of knowing what quoting does and knowing what ssh expects to receive on the commandline |
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| 16:51 | <SamB> | giltoon: one of those is shell basics, the other is found in the ssh(1) manpage |
| 16:51 | <SamB> | I guess retrospectacus probably has some good links about the shell basics |
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| 16:52 | <Diziet> | I swapped my disk for an ssd and now gdm3 doesn't work (!) I think it must just be because that involved a reboot which I otherwise don't do very often. I see this: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~ijackson/2013/gdm3-bug.png |
| 16:52 | <retrospectacus> | those links should be *very* helpful |
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| 16:54 | <giltoon> | thank you very much |
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| 16:55 | <Diziet> | http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~ijackson/2013/gdm3-bug/ has logfiles |
| 16:55 | <ilogicallus> | Xfce isn't able to use eth0 for some reason. But it was working in GNOME. |
| 16:55 | <Diziet> | This is with squeeze. |
| 16:55 | <ilogicallus> | I am now connect using wlan0 |
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| 16:58 | <ilogicallus> | is eth0 supposed to work with xfce? |
| 16:58 | <krc> | the keyboard layout is fine on the console...so it must be in xorg, not in console-setup or keyboard-configuration or something, right? |
| 16:59 | <krc> | ilogicallus: the desktop environment should have nothing to do with network devices... |
| 16:59 | <Nirgal> | ilogicallus: I use network-manager-gnome with xfce, but you can set up dhcp in /etc/network/interfaces if you prefer... |
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| 16:59 | <nadir> | dhclient -v eth0 |
| 16:59 | <nadir> | after ifconfig -a, of course. |
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| 17:01 | <ilogicallus> | nadir: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/0cc1933c/ |
| 17:01 | <ilogicallus> | Well I will try wicd |
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| 17:02 | <retrospectacus> | says it's fine. you're online |
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| 17:03 | <krc> | ilogicallus: I don't use wifi much, or network managers, but I have always had better luck with wicd over NM |
| 17:03 | <nadir> | bound to 192.168.0.101 ... ups, retrospectacus said it already |
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| 17:03 | <nadir> | to me wicd is more clear and easy |
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| 17:03 | <retrospectacus> | ilogicallus: we can't see any problem. You can use whatever method you like - NM, wicd, interfaces... |
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| 17:04 | <ilogicallus> | Thanks. |
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| 17:04 | <retrospectacus> | ilogicallus: note that you may need to "dhclient eth0" after "down wlan0" to fix your default route (since your wifi and ethernet go to the same router) |
| 17:05 | <boris> | Ales Hallo Raspberry Pi name Boris |
| 17:05 | <retrospectacus> | !rpi |
| 17:05 | <dpkg> | The Raspberry Pi is an open hardware design based on a Broadcom system-on-a-chip, requiring <non-free> <firmware>. Debian's <armel> port works fine, but does not use the Pi's hardware floating point unit. Debian's <armhf> port (wheezy onwards) targets a newer revision of the ARM chip than is in the Pi, so armhf will not work on it. http://wiki.debian.org/RaspberryPi http://www.raspberrypi.org/ #raspberrypi on irc.freenode.net. |
| 17:05 | <ilogicallus> | ok |
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| 17:06 | <retrospectacus> | hi boris ... welcome to #debian - see above for Raspberry Pi support |
| 17:06 | <boris> | ja |
| 17:06 | <ElectricTriangle> | Is anyone here familiar with soundcard troubleshooting? I can see it in alsamixer and pulseaudio mixers, but I can't get any sound out of it... |
| 17:06 | <retrospectacus> | dpkg: tell ilogicallus about networking |
| 17:07 | <retrospectacus> | ilogicallus: the robot sent you some more resources (words like <this> are keywords you can say to him for more info) |
| 17:07 | <ElectricTriangle> | I did do some searching before coming here, but none of the instructions I found seemed to help. |
| 17:08 | <ilogicallus> | thanks |
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| 17:11 | <krc> | ElectricTriangle: in pavucontrol, can you see levels moving as a sound plays? |
| 17:11 | <ElectricTriangle> | I can, yes. |
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| 17:12 | <krc> | hm |
| 17:13 | <ElectricTriangle> | I've checked that I don't have it muted in alsamixer as well. |
| 17:13 | <krc> | yeah that one used to get me all the time |
| 17:13 | <ElectricTriangle> | Oh, and my builtin sound works fine. |
| 17:13 | <ElectricTriangle> | But not my Audigy. |
| 17:13 | <krc> | oh, interesting |
| 17:14 | <krc> | I have never used PA with a sound card... been using onboard for a long time |
| 17:15 | <ElectricTriangle> | Yeah, I like the lower noise levels... not to mention the soundfont support. |
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| 17:15 | <krc> | yeah, it has advantages |
| 17:15 | <ElectricTriangle> | Although that requires a rather ugly DMA hack to make work properly. |
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| 17:15 | <krc> | but I am not really an audio guy... |
| 17:15 | <ElectricTriangle> | At least with the Audigy line. |
| 17:15 | <ElectricTriangle> | Heh. |
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| 17:16 | <ElectricTriangle> | I'm still searching, I might solve my own problem. I thought I'd ask though. |
| 17:16 | <krc> | it plays pandora and mp3s, and sounds in Half-Life...good enough for me |
| 17:16 | <krc> | lol |
| 17:16 | <ElectricTriangle> | It's done this before, just randomly not working on a boot... but I've restarted twice. |
| 17:17 | <krc> | yeah, I don't think I can help on this one, sorry |
| 17:17 | <ElectricTriangle> | Quite alright. |
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| 17:17 | <krc> | good luck |
| 17:17 | <ElectricTriangle> | Thanks. |
| 17:18 | <mc68040> | ElectricTriangle: i have to power off my machine sometimes bcs my tv card sometimes dont work after reboot |
| 17:18 | <ElectricTriangle> | Yeah, my TV card borks on suspend. |
| 17:18 | <ElectricTriangle> | Egh. |
| 17:18 | <mc68040> | ElectricTriangle: seems a kind of initialization problem - maybe you experience the same |
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| 17:19 | <ElectricTriangle> | Well, I did just plug it in again... testing some things. |
| 17:19 | <krc> | man, bios/acpi level issues. hate those. |
| 17:19 | <ElectricTriangle> | Yeah, they're pretty bad. |
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| 17:19 | <krc> | if the hardware guys would get their shit together... yeah right |
| 17:19 | <retrospectacus> | disabling your onboard in the BIOS may be a good option |
| 17:19 | <ElectricTriangle> | I'm not sure who to blame, though. The only driver for the decoder chip is one that's used from another card. |
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| 17:20 | <ElectricTriangle> | I suppose anything is worth a shot. |
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| 17:20 | <retrospectacus> | if you don't want to use it |
| 17:20 | <ElectricTriangle> | Well it's worked just fine alongside this soundcard before, but it's certainly worth testing. |
| 17:21 | <ElectricTriangle> | Hm, the sound troubleshooting page on the wiki is rather sparse. |
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| 17:22 | <retrospectacus> | sound issues are usually fixed by "messing around" in the mixers, or realizing something's not plugged in right |
| 17:22 | <ElectricTriangle> | And those are of course the things I've tested first. |
| 17:22 | <ElectricTriangle> | But oddly enough I still have a problem :/ |
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| 17:25 | <mc68040> | btw. i have 2 video sources (pci tv card and usb cam) and when i reboot/restart the order they get recognized sometimes change... means to reconfigure all applications that use video... has anyone an idea how to fix this? |
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| 17:27 | <krc> | bah, upgrade of ibus was to blame for keyboard layout issues |
| 17:28 | <krc> | why ibus does not have "use system keyboard layout" checked by default I can't imagine |
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| 17:33 | <retrospectacus> | mc68040: maybe a rules file in /etc/udev/rules.d/ |
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| 17:34 | <mc68040> | retrospectacus: i will try |
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| 17:38 | <twinkie_addict> | hi |
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| 17:39 | * | retrospectacus steals a twinkie from twinkie_addict |
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| 17:39 | <Xylon> | :O |
| 17:39 | * | twinkie_addict yanks it back |
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| 17:39 | * | retrospectacus checks for missing fingers |
| 17:40 | <twinkie_addict> | :) |
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| 17:42 | <groolot_> | any advice about complete removing of desktop packages ? |
| 17:43 | <retrospectacus> | groolot_: ask a better question |
| 17:43 | <retrospectacus> | !bat |
| 17:43 | <dpkg> | In order for us to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: The complete output of your apt-get/aptitude/dselect run (including the command you used); the output from apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2...; for the relevant packages and "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
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| 17:44 | <groolot_> | retrospectacus: ok |
| 17:44 | <twinkie_addict> | prge ? |
| 17:44 | <retrospectacus> | !purge |
| 17:44 | <dpkg> | In Debian package management, "purge" means to completely wipe away a package, including its configuration files. Use «aptitude purge $package» or «dpkg -P $package» (note: you can't 'apt-get purge' a package that is already removed; use aptitude or dpkg instead). To purge all "removed" packages: «aptitude purge '~c'». To restore configuration files, ask me about <confmiss>. Also ask me about <why aptitude>. |
| 17:44 | <groolot_> | ok, but I do not know what are the packages corresponding to the "Desktop environnement" option during the installation |
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| 17:45 | <groolot_> | I just want to remove ALL the packages according to those who were installed by default |
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| 17:46 | <groolot_> | I know that it's purge to be used, but I do not know excatly which packages to select for |
| 17:46 | <retrospectacus> | groolot_: tasksel --task-packages desktop |
| 17:46 | <retrospectacus> | will tell you |
| 17:47 | <groolot_> | it gives me a one line answer : task-desktop |
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| 17:47 | <groolot_> | a bit light, no ?! |
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| 17:47 | <retrospectacus> | purge that, then apt-get --purge autoremove |
| 17:48 | <mc68040> | groolot_: with 'dpkg -l task\*' you can see all task packaged you installed |
| 17:48 | <retrospectacus> | task-desktop is a metapackage depending on the desktop apps and stuff you mean (you can run apt-cache show task-desktop to see them in depends) |
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| 17:48 | <groolot_> | mc68040: thx |
| 17:49 | <groolot_> | retrospectacus: thx |
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| 17:50 | <groolot_> | what is the BETTER way to purge the task ? |
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| 17:50 | <groolot_> | aptitude, dpkg, apt-get ? |
| 17:50 | <groolot_> | tasksel ? |
| 17:50 | <retrospectacus> | perhaps reinstalling without chooseing Desktop would be easiest |
| 17:51 | <groolot_> | I can't do that because it has an incidence on 6 machines |
| 17:51 | <groolot_> | just want to suppress, not to reinstall |
| 17:52 | <mc68040> | groolot_: i prefer apt-get - aptitude i use for finding and purging old packages |
| 17:53 | <retrospectacus> | I think "apt-get purge task-desktop && apt-get --purge autoremove" would do it, unless you've installed other desktop apps |
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| 17:53 | <retrospectacus> | in which case, purge them too in the first command |
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| 17:56 | <groolot_> | retrospectacus: waiting for the process to achieve |
| 17:57 | <retrospectacus> | I hope you ran that on a TTY or in screen, not thru the DE |
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| 18:04 | <ElectricTriangle> | If those who helped me out are still in the chat, it was actually a little tickbox in alsamixer that I missed... taunting me. |
| 18:05 | <retrospectacus> | got you good |
| 18:05 | <ElectricTriangle> | It did, it really did. |
| 18:05 | <ElectricTriangle> | As did you. |
| 18:07 | <retrospectacus> | I did? |
| 18:07 | <ElectricTriangle> | You said it's usually a mixer or cable issue. |
| 18:07 | <ElectricTriangle> | And indeed it was. |
| 18:07 | <retrospectacus> | oya :D |
| 18:08 | <ElectricTriangle> | I actually had it out of the case this morning and a very heavy object fell quite a drop and landed right next to it. |
| 18:08 | <ElectricTriangle> | But not on said card. |
| 18:08 | <ElectricTriangle> | Not careless, just a freak accident type thing. |
| 18:09 | <ElectricTriangle> | I thought it was broken when it wouldn't work today XD |
| 18:10 | <ElectricTriangle> | Anyway, thanks. |
| 18:10 | <retrospectacus> | no problem. Glad you got it working |
| 18:11 | <groolot_> | retrospectacus: thanks a lot for your help |
| 18:11 | <groolot_> | mc68040: thank you too |
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| 18:24 | <sanmiguel> | hello? |
| 18:24 | <sanmiguel> | anyone here a real hacker ? |
| 18:25 | <retrospectacus> | !ask |
| 18:25 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 18:41 | <ilogicallus> | hp-setup freezes when i try to select the device and click next so that it can find the adequate driver/plugin |
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| 18:41 | <ilogicallus> | http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/laserjet/hp_laserjet_p1005.html |
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| 18:42 | <ilogicallus> | I tried adding every other driver directly from cups, adding different drivers, then reseting the print, cups and even the system |
| 18:42 | <ilogicallus> | but nothing |
| 18:42 | <ilogicallus> | it once installed using hp-setup but it is freezing now |
| 18:43 | <ilogicallus> | the print is a HP LaseJet P1005 |
| 18:43 | <ilogicallus> | printer* |
| 18:43 | <ilogicallus> | foomatic |
| 18:43 | <ilogicallus> | hpjis and hpcups |
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| 18:43 | <ilogicallus> | none worked |
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| 18:43 | <wdoodle> | Hello, does "firmware=N/A" in the "configuration" line of the lshw output for wireless adapter mean that there is no firmware loaded or available or found or something? I'm trying to track down why I have no wireless since the upgrade from squeeze to wheezy |
| 18:44 | <retrospectacus> | wdoodle: what's your wireless device? (line from "lspci -nn" please) |
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| 18:46 | <wdoodle> | retrospectus: same as from lshw "Ralink corp. RT5390 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe [1814:5390]" |
| 18:47 | <retrospectacus> | wdoodle: install firmware-ralink |
| 18:47 | <mc68040> | ilogicallus: why not install package hplip? |
| 18:47 | <mc68040> | ,v hplip |
| 18:47 | <judd> | Package: hplip on i386 -- squeeze: 3.10.6-2+squeeze1; wheezy: 3.12.6-3.1; jessie: 3.13.4-1+b1; sid: 3.13.4-1+b1 |
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| 18:48 | <ilogicallus> | I have it |
| 18:48 | <ilogicallus> | and it says to use hp-setup |
| 18:48 | <wdoodle> | I have firmware-linux-free firmware-linux-nonfree and firware-ralink installed |
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| 18:50 | <Nirgal> | !RT5390 |
| 18:50 | <dpkg> | Experimental support for Ralink RT53xx PCIe 802.11n devices (e.g. RT5390: PCI ID 1814:5390) was added to the rt2800pci driver at Linux 2.6.39 (CONFIG_RT2800PCI_RT53XX), enabled by default since Linux 3.0. Support of HP's RT5390 variant (PCI ID 1814:539f, found in the DM1-3000 and DM1Z-3000) was added at linux-2.6 3.0.0~rc4-1~experimental.1 (Debian bug #630960). Ask me about <rt2800pci>. |
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| 18:50 | <retrospectacus> | wdoodle: should work then, can you see the interface in "ifconfig -a"? |
| 18:51 | <ilogicallus> | mc68040: I am trying my luck with hp-setup -i :) |
| 18:52 | <wdoodle> | lsmod says rt2800pci is loaded |
| 18:52 | <wdoodle> | yes, but only with -a |
| 18:52 | <wdoodle> | lshw says the interface is disabled |
| 18:52 | <retrospectacus> | wdoodle: then it's working, you just need to configure it |
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| 18:53 | <retrospectacus> | https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi#Configure_Interface |
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| 18:54 | <retrospectacus> | wdoodle: if it really won't work check the killswitch |
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| 18:55 | <ilogicallus> | mc68040: it finally worked xd |
| 18:55 | <Frogec> | i forgot command for making auto connection to internet. Anyone can help me? |
| 18:56 | <mc68040> | ilogicallus: congratulation :) |
| 18:56 | <retrospectacus> | Frogec: be more specific |
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| 18:57 | <Frogec> | how to make internet connection in terminal? |
| 18:57 | <Frogec> | did in once but i forgot |
| 18:57 | <retrospectacus> | Frogec: usually by editing the interfaces file |
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| 18:57 | <retrospectacus> | Frogec: you may want "dhclient" |
| 18:57 | <retrospectacus> | or "ifup eth0" or ... |
| 18:57 | <retrospectacus> | hence, be more specific |
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| 18:58 | <Frogec> | i will be when i learn english better :) |
| 18:59 | <retrospectacus> | your English is fine... there may be another channel for your favourite language if you'd feel more comfortable asking there |
| 18:59 | <retrospectacus> | dpkg: tell Frogec about networking |
| 18:59 | <Nirgal> | Damned, my kernel paniced (#707577) :' |
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| 19:01 | <Frogec> | i`m gonna try this way |
| 19:01 | <Frogec> | ima li nekoga sa balkana? |
| 19:02 | <retrospectacus> | !en |
| 19:02 | <dpkg> | The language of #debian is English. We will do our best to help you regardless of your level of English but you might be more comfortable asking for help in your own language. Ask me about your language code for more information, for example /msg dpkg br ; /msg dpkg pt ; /msg dpkg es ; /msg dpkg fr ; /msg dpkg de |
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| 19:03 | <mc68040> | Nirgal: i use bcmwl-kernel-source_6.30.223.30+bdcom-0ubuntu3_amd64.deb on my dell vostro with kernel 3.10... works like a charm ;) |
| 19:03 | <wdoodle> | I can't seem to find network manager since the upgrade, and I've tried with ifupdown but it after polling for dhcp offers it says none found. That's probably because of encryption and I haven't yet looked at how to make ifupdown work with wpa_supp;icant. So where is network manager gone to? I ran /etc/init.d/network-manager start, but "ps axu" doesn't show anything that looks like netmanager |
| 19:04 | <Frogec> | no bosnian or croatian, and i don`t know how to explain what i need |
| 19:04 | <retrospectacus> | wdoodle: what desktop environment? |
| 19:04 | <Frogec> | anyway, retrospectacus, thanx for trying to help me |
| 19:05 | <retrospectacus> | ilogicallus: the robot sent you some more resources (words like <this> are keywords you can say to him for more info) |
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| 19:05 | <retrospectacus> | Frogec: ^ |
| 19:06 | <wdoodle> | and the networking aplet is gone |
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| 19:07 | <retrospectacus> | wdoodle: what desktop environment? |
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| 19:08 | <retrospectacus> | wdoodle: https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse |
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| 19:12 | <wdoodle> | sorry, missed that. Thing is, I'm not to sure. It was one of the light ones lxde I think, but now it appears to be gnome. Looks more like a touch tablet interface than a desktop interface |
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| 19:18 | <wdoodle> | might have been xfce before, too. I can see a network icon when I choose system settings in a menu that appears when I click my user name in the upper right corner, but when I click it I get the error msg "The system network services are not compatible with this version" |
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| 19:39 | <Cristian> | hello, please helpme i want to setup ldap authentication in my mailserver dovecot 2.1.7 and postfix STARTTLS |
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| 19:41 | <retrospectacus> | Cristian: welcome back. You got postfix and dovecot working in your desired location now? |
| 19:42 | <Cristian> | yeah, already works |
| 19:42 | <retrospectacus> | Cristian: do you have a local LDAP server, or using a remote, or M$AD or what |
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| 19:42 | <Cristian> | but now, i want to integrate ldap, and squirrelmail, how can i do this? |
| 19:43 | <Cristian> | i want a local ldap server. the same server |
| 19:43 | <retrospectacus> | Cristian: install postfix-ldap and dovecot-ldap and an ldap server, and configure them. |
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| 19:44 | <Cristian> | i'm have installed slapd ldap-utils |
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| 19:44 | <Cristian> | and the others packs you told me |
| 19:46 | <wdoodle> | Well that's interesting. NetworkManager did not survive the upgrade to wheezy. that's why when I ran /etc/init.d/network-manager, nothing showed when I ran ps axu. I've installed it and my wireless is back |
| 19:46 | <Cristian> | the slapd is 2.4.31 version, please help me to find a guide for this |
| 19:47 | <SamB> | wdoodle: that's interesting |
| 19:47 | <retrospectacus> | Cristian: no. Let us know if you have a specific question, we're not going to google a how-to for you |
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| 19:48 | <SamB> | I know there was a big a big flamefest because the gnome people tried to make it get pulled in during upgrades to wheezy, but I didn't think the resolution was expected to have the *opposite* result ... |
| 19:48 | <Cristian> | sorry, let me explain, i want to add ldap authentication users, and squirrelmail, for clients access |
| 19:49 | <retrospectacus> | Cristian: so do it. What are you asking? |
| 19:49 | <wdoodle> | retrospectacus: thanks, I was cruising around in aptitude trying to figure out what environment I ws using (a choice I made a long time ago, flip of a coin, that I don't remember) when I noticed that netman was not installed any more but had config files still on system. Now I don't have to try and figure out to use ifupdown with wpa-supplicant !! |
| 19:49 | <Cristian> | i can't find a guide, can you help me? |
| 19:50 | <retrospectacus> | Cristian: no |
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| 19:51 | <Cristian> | are you angry? |
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| 19:52 | <retrospectacus> | Cristian: read the docs and configure each component to work with ldap. If you have a specific problem or question show us with a pastebin and explain what you typed and what happened |
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| 20:03 | <ilogicalus> | I've just added this new user, but I don't want it to have admnistrative privileges. It's not being able to find this USB external disc even after unplugging it, unplugging the machine and restarting. |
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| 20:13 | <ilogicalus> | is there any reason why a regular user on debian can't open USB hard drives when plugged in? |
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| 20:43 | <j_v> | looking for some help on bash shell scripting. http://paste.debian.net/22296 is a snippet that works as I want it to, but i wonder if there is an easier way to accomplish the same thing. |
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| 21:01 | <crosswall> | hi |
| 21:03 | <fede> | how to install latest firefox (not ice*) with a trustable repository? |
| 21:03 | <fede> | i need a plugin which is not compatible with wheezy's iceweasel |
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| 21:13 | <dvs> | !tell fede -about mdn |
| 21:18 | <fede> | somehow i managed to have iceweasel 17.0.7 via cdn.debian.net repo, but needed plugin requires 19.0 and later |
| 21:19 | <fede> | 17.0.7 is latest supported by debian, is that correct? |
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| 21:20 | <idts> | what is your sources.list like? |
| 21:20 | <dvs> | fede: Read what dpkg said to you |
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| 21:20 | <fede> | deb [ trusted=yes arch=amd64 ] file:/media/usb0/ wheezy main contrib |
| 21:20 | <fede> | deb [ trusted=yes arch=amd64 ] file:/media/usb1/ wheezy main contrib |
| 21:20 | <fede> | deb [ trusted=yes arch=amd64 ] file:/media/usb2/ wheezy main contrib |
| 21:20 | <fede> | deb http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main non-free contrib |
| 21:20 | <fede> | deb-src http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main non-free contrib |
| 21:20 | -!- | fede was kicked from #debian by debhelper [flood] |
| 21:20 | <idts> | !mdn |
| 21:20 | <dpkg> | The "Extended Support Release" version (10) of the Iceweasel web browser is in <squeeze-backports>. Newer Iceweasel (also Icedove and Iceape) are at http://mozilla.debian.net/ for squeeze and wheezy or in <experimental> for jessie and sid. |
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| 21:20 | <fede> | ouch |
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| 21:21 | <fede> | deb [ trusted=yes arch=amd64 ] file:/media/usb1/ wheezy main contrib |
| 21:21 | <fede> | deb [ trusted=yes arch=amd64 ] file:/media/usb2/ wheezy main contrib |
| 21:21 | <fede> | deb http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main non-free contrib |
| 21:21 | <fede> | deb-src http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main non-free contrib |
| 21:21 | -!- | fede was kicked from #debian by debhelper [flood] |
| 21:21 | <SamB> | slow learner huh |
| 21:21 | <dvs> | yep |
| 21:22 | <idts> | should sebd him to the release page |
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| 21:23 | <dvs> | fede: dont paste in here. |
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| 21:23 | <j_v> | fede: use http://paste.debian.net |
| 21:23 | <SamB> | fede: did you somehow miss that the bot was kicking you for pasting? |
| 21:23 | <fede> | just noticed ^^ |
| 21:23 | <fede> | no, second time it happened suddenly |
| 21:24 | <hey> | does anyone know how to configure ALSA so that "speaker-test" doesn't crackle playing the sine wave? |
| 21:24 | <fede> | http://paste.debian.net/22302/ |
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| 21:25 | <dvs> | tsk tsk tsk. mixing releases. |
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| 21:26 | <fede> | heh i don't like it either but that looked faster way to get my thing done |
| 21:26 | <dvs> | fede: I'd comment out line 1, 3, and 5 and add the line from mdn. |
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| 21:27 | <fede> | !tell fede -about mdn |
| 21:28 | <dvs> | !tell fede about selftell |
| 21:28 | <o_OWtf> | dont kick ppl |
| 21:29 | <o_OWtf> | we need moer ppl |
| 21:29 | <SamB> | pasting gets kicking because it's the only way to cancel a long paste |
| 21:29 | <fede> | oh ok thx, i'm still missing some basic rules |
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| 21:30 | <dvs> | we kicked 'im! |
| 21:30 | <dvs> | :-P |
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| 21:37 | <fede> | ok it's downloading, waiting to check results |
| 21:37 | <fede> | why this is better than "mixing releases"? this ain't a package from a different release? |
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| 21:38 | <fede> | great, iceweasel is on 22.0 |
| 21:38 | <fede> | thank you very much |
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| 21:39 | <j_v> | fede: mixing releases can cause trouble with library incompatibity, causing bugs and breakage |
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| 22:16 | <james41382> | i was installing a package using apt-get and it "froze" in the middle of the installation. should i simply kill the process, then purge and retry? |
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| 22:27 | <j4jackj> | This is quite the problem. I have a User Mode Linux kernel, and it won't boot, because it can't open 98:0. |
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| 22:28 | <j4jackj> | Want a pastebin? |
| 22:28 | <j4jackj> | http://pastebin.com/c56essdE |
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| 22:29 | <j4jackj> | Hello??? |
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| 22:32 | <j4jackj> | Hello??? |
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| 22:32 | <j4jackj> | Does everyone here just hate me after a minor incident? |
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| 22:38 | <j4jackj> | Ganneff: We need to talk. |
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| 23:07 | <Khades> | hm |
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| 23:07 | <Khades> | i wonder is mesa 9.1.5 is ok for dota2 |
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| 23:07 | <Khades> | if mesa |
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