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#debian IRC Logs for 2013-08-03

---Logopened Sat Aug 03 00:00:01 2013
---Daychanged Sat Aug 03 2013
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01:12<manuelito>hola
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01:13<manuelito>hola
01:13<jmcnaught>hi
01:13<manuelito>como estas?
01:14<manuelito>how are you?
01:15<jmcnaught>i'm okay. need a hand with anything?
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01:20<arturo>buondi'
01:20<arturo>ceì nessuno?
01:21<ayaka>!ask
01:21<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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01:23<Supaplex>or don't. heh
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02:25<Osiris_X>anyone know how to disable pam / security access via fprintd on remote sessions?
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03:07<AgentC>good morning.
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03:10<AgentC>I made a dist-upgrade for switching from wheezy to testing. (adjusted in apt/sources.list) but now gnome starts in "classic mode" even if "gnome3 NON-CLASSIC" was selected on login. what's wrong ?
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03:14<Chav>Hi. I'm looking for a CLI-based package that'll allow me to view and manage my laptop's hardware, the same way Device Manager does in Windows. I want to be able to enable and disable components to save more power. Any suggestions?
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03:15<Supaplex>AgentC: #debian-next
03:15<gsimmons>Chav: You might be interested in powertop.
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03:17<Chav>gsimmons: Hey. I have powertop already, but it's not quite the same. Eg. you have to re-apply tunables after a reboot; and you can't actually disable devices within it, just adjust power saving settings.
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03:21<maxim-ngs>debian 7 ceased to be comfortable and stable, reliable.
03:21<maxim-ngs>1. From the installer removed the memory test.
03:21<maxim-ngs>2. at the installation if you use LVM does not matter manual or automatic system does not boot after installation. / boot is empty
03:21<maxim-ngs>3. after Xen for test execution:
03:21<maxim-ngs>  dd if = / dev / zero of = / test conv = fsync
03:21<maxim-ngs>kernel panic
03:21<maxim-ngs>kernel: [2673.716061] Code: 01 d7 49 ba 00 00 00 00 00 88 ff ff 48 c1 ff 03 48 0f af f9 c1 e7 0c 48 49 01 39 f2 76 fa 0e f1 89 d1 29 89 f6 4c 01 d6 48 89 f7 <f3> aa c8 45 39 76 10 44 89 31 c0 c1 c9 4d 44 29 01 89 d1 4c cf
03:21<maxim-ngs>to put it all Oracle Linux operating without problems. but I want the product from the oracle.
03:21<maxim-ngs>Here I think what to do. put debian 6 or forget about debian and put centos as the only free and stable system
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03:24<Supaplex>lvm works great for me. I've installed 4 new systems since 7.1 amd64 dvd1 was cut
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03:25<maxim-ngs>thanks you i download 7.1 for try
03:25<Supaplex>AND luks w/encrypted swap/suspend. ohhhhh yumm... I usually go guided, then trim home to 10gb so pvscan has plenty to spare (for var, or vm's I might create, and grow etc)
03:26<Supaplex>maxim-ngs: ever use PostgreSQL?
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03:27<maxim-ngs>no not use
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03:30<Supaplex>maxim-ngs: depending on why you're using Oracle, PostgreSQL may be able to replace it (with sufficent research).
03:32<maxim-ngs>I want install debian with Xen kernel for virtualization,
03:34<maxim-ngs>I installed Oracle Linux for tests and it turns out to be more convenient and safer debian but I do not like the policy oracle, always used it.
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06:25<evgen123>Hello! Please help me with diagnostic. Debian freeze by out of memory. http://pastebin.com/mxK2Wcgh http://pastebin.com/FMQHgFnM
06:27<Guest2204>do you have swap?
06:27<evgen123>Yes. 2G.
06:27<evgen123>look logs
06:28<SynrG>so, too many apache2 processes
06:29<stderr>Load average: 269.60? DAMN!!!
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06:29<evgen123>but why? should be only five
06:29<mc68040>evgen123: what apache-mpm-? you installed?
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06:30<evgen123>mc68040: mpm_prefork_module
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06:32<SynrG>only five prestarted, i suspect
06:32<SynrG>but you haven't limited # of clients, maybe?
06:32<SynrG>http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/prefork.html
06:33<mc68040>ha has... 256 and max servers 512...
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06:35*SynrG nods
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06:35<evgen123>this is idle clients. they not create apache processes
06:35<stderr>evgen123: Have you tried with the default values (StartServers 5, MinSpareServers 5, MaxSpareServers 10, MaxClients 150 and MaxRequestsPerChild 0)?
06:35<evgen123>only 4 processes + 1 control process
06:36<mc68040>evgen123: what kind of web application you serve? a php application?
06:36<stderr>evgen123: If you look at your first paste, it's clear you got a lot more than 4+1 apache processes.
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06:37<evgen123>mc68040: yes. php.
06:37<yop>hello everybody
06:38<evgen123>stderr: I know this.That is what is causing me problems.
06:39<evgen123>stderr: this config worked nice one year. but now I have problem.
06:40<stderr>Ah... What did you change?
06:40<SynrG>until something exceptional happened, like a crawler not obeying robots.txt hit your site and started index it, perhaps?
06:40<mc68040>evgen123: you checked apache access.log? error.log? maybe you're "under attack"?
06:41<evgen123>mc68040: no any attacks. Normal load.
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06:43<SynrG>then maybe normal load was close to failure and something small happened to push it over the limit?
06:43<SynrG>like the site was 5% away from running out of memory and became 10% more popular
06:43*mc68040 thinks the same
06:44<interlagos>Hi, I'm on Wheezy with a kernel 3.2.0-4-rt-amd64 on a laptop Dell lattitude E6400. When I shutdown my computer, i well got the closing sequence like closing daemon and so on, and it ends with "power down" and nothing more. My screen keeps on and i'm obliged to shutdown with the power button. It happens once a 5 times. I tried without success the option "video.allow_duplicates=1" to Grub. Thanks for your help.
06:45<SynrG>evgen123: any upgrades recently?
06:45<stderr>evgen123: Can we see your error.log?
06:46<SynrG>interlagos: if you don't use rt, does the problem also occur?
06:47<interlagos>i don't know I will try. The point is i really need it to do some music stuff
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06:49<SynrG>interlagos: and my point is that you want to know if it's an rt issue or not
06:49<interlagos>I will try I let you know see you in a little bit. thanks :-)
06:50<SynrG>np. seeya
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06:52<Nirgal>evgen123: Not sure this is related, but I note you added a ServerLimit directive that is not there in default configuration. You should probably remove that line. See https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mpm_common.html#serverlimit
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06:57<antgel>hi all. i want to do echo 1024 > /sys/block/sdb/device/max_sectors on system boot. is the recommended way to do this via sysctl.conf?
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07:09<evgen123>stderr: error in syslog http://pastebin.com/3NMwUegL
07:10<evgen123>Nirgal: may be, but this config nice worked on prod servers many years.
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07:12<SynrG>evgen123: 11:13 is too late
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07:13<SynrG>evgen123: we see lots of processes that started around 11:11
07:13<antgel>hi all. i want to do echo 1024 > /sys/block/sdb/device/max_sectors on system boot. is the recommended way to do this via sysctl.conf?
07:13<SynrG>the interesting parts of the logs (both error and access) are going to be around then
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07:17<SynrG>antgel: sysctl does not have any such value
07:17<SynrG>antgel: look at the output of 'sysctl -a'
07:17<mc68040>evgen123: i think stderr meant the apache error.log...
07:17<SynrG>antgel: and the sysctl(8) man page
07:17<stderr>I did.
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07:18<SynrG>antgel: you could use /etc/rc.local for this
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07:20<antgel>SynrG: okay. i was trying to find the "nicest" way - thought there might be a setting without having to edit startup scripts. also occurs to me i could try to hook into usbmount (i only need this set when my usb hard disk (sdb) is plugged in)
07:20<antgel>SynrG: i guess i was asking more generally if everything in /sys is controllable via sysctl
07:20<Nirgal>evgen123: It looks like the php children are really busy, ps show them in state D "Uninterruptible sleep (usually IO)"
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07:23<Nirgal>evgen123: maybe you can look at what they are doing with a command based on lsof
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07:29<evgen123>Nirgal: I think what I really stupid and problem with MaxClients
07:29<Nirgal>antgel: It usually works, though I remember once adding a key that was then processed too early (the sys directories where not fully created yet). Just my 2¢
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07:33<Nirgal>evgen123: Increasing the max clients make sense if you really have heavy load, but if you have a bug in the children execution, it will just delay the point where your system have to call oom_killer. Better look at the real cause. What does "lsof -p <processid>" gives with the processid of one of these blocked children?
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07:36<Unline>hello
07:37<Unline>is anyone there ?
07:37<Unline>its the first time i use IRC
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07:37<Unline>Volley
07:37<Unline>hello
07:37<Monty`>you can just ask
07:37<mc68040>hi unline
07:37<mc68040>!ask
07:37<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
07:37<Unline>hi dear
07:37<Unline>is anyone here to explain
07:37<Unline>how to use irc
07:38<Unline>and whats exiting here
07:38-!-mode/#debian [+o babilen] by ChanServ
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07:38<Monty`>what do you want to do exacly?
07:38<Monty`>also what client you are using?
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07:39<babilen>Unline: Please note that this is a techanical support channel for Debian (http://www.debian.org) and not a social chat channel. You might want to learn a bit more about IRC and its etiquette before you continue your adventure. I silenced you for now as your many lines were disruptive.
07:39<babilen>Ah, well ..
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07:41<celtictux>Yesterday I was testing "hurd" xserver got to run but I could not run any desktop environment. be made to work with "hurd"?, sorry for my English
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07:43<interlagos> I tried shutdown many times with rt-kernel and generic-kernel and i didn't experienced any problems. In the same time i solved an other problem with "tracker-extract" which makes lots of zombied prog. I disable the daemons and it seems to work. May it caused by this ? is this prog important for the system ?
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07:43<Unline>y u block me ?
07:43<Unline>!
07:44<SynrG>interlagos: so if you think you have solved it, go back to rt and see
07:44<Unline>i just wanna ask something
07:44<Unline>im copletely new here
07:44<SynrG>interlagos: oh, you said you did with both
07:44<@babilen>Unline: Please note that this is a techanical support channel for Debian (http://www.debian.org) and not a social chat channel. You might want to learn a bit more about IRC and its etiquette before you continue your adventure. I silenced you for now as your many lines were disruptive.
07:44<@babilen>Unline: I sent you this before ^^^
07:45<@babilen>dpkg: tell Unline -about irc tutorial
07:45<Unline>uhum
07:45<Nirgal>Unline: There are 552 people here. Ask your question if you have one.
07:45<SynrG>interlagos: i don't know what tracker-extract is. sec
07:45<Unline>ok so guide me where to go and ask
07:45<interlagos>in fact it happens not every time... it happens randomly i can't know why
07:46<@babilen>Unline: There are plenty of chat channels (such as #debian-offtopic) on this network and a lot more on other networks. This particular channel is for technical support though and therefore not the best "first channel" :)
07:46<Unline>thank you dear
07:46<@babilen>Unline: I'd recommend to run "/join #debian-offtopic" in your IRC client for now and to read the IRC tutorial.
07:46<Unline>i just entered here cause i like debian and i searched for it
07:46<SynrG>interlagos: but with tracker-extract running, does it fail with rt? and if it does, does it *not* fail with non-rt?
07:46<Unline>thanks
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07:46<jdorfler>Hello fuckers.
07:46<Unline>i have only a little question
07:46<jdorfler>12042.52 MB how much is this?
07:47<jdorfler>Unline; yo
07:47<jdorfler>12042.52 MB <--- how much is this shit?
07:47<jdorfler>is that in GB?
07:47<Unline>i heared we need user + password t enter IRC
07:47<Monty`>12gb?
07:47<jdorfler>unline; shut the fuck up
07:47<jdorfler>that's 12 gb, monty?
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07:47<Unline>but i just selected a nick name
07:47<SynrG>jdorfler: learn to be a human being
07:47<SynrG>jdorfler: you seem to be very bad at it
07:47<Unline>jdorfley
07:48<Unline>you seem so angry !
07:48<@babilen>Unline: If you want to discuss this further take it to #debian-offtopic please (just join the channel as explained earlier)
07:48<Unline>ok babilen
07:48<Unline>thank you an
07:48<Unline>man
07:48<Unline>*
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07:48<Unline>let me test
07:48<Unline>"/join #debian-offtopic
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07:48<@babilen>Unline: Try it without the "
07:49<Unline>was a mistake
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07:49<interlagos>for my test today, i tried like 4 times "with rt-kernel and with tracker extract" and it works.
07:49<SynrG>!tell Unline about enter as punctuation
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07:50<interlagos>does it deal with some ACPI stuff ? Is there some log ? It happens yesterday, if i can find the log maybe...
07:51<SynrG>interlagos: read the description of the tracker-extract package. it says what it does. no, i don't think it has anything to do with acpi
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07:51<SynrG>interlagos: unfortunately, these very hard to reproduce issues are a bitch to debug
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07:52<SynrG>interlagos: also, tracker-extract, even if it is involved, may simply not be doing any work when you were testing.
07:57<interlagos>I will keep like that for the moment and see if the problem is solved or not and if not, i exclued one cause. Thanks for your help. :-)
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09:22<xubuntu>hello
09:22<xubuntu>any speak dutchM
09:24<abrotman>xubuntu support is on #xubuntu on irc.freenode.net
09:24<xubuntu>oh
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09:25<xubuntu>hi
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09:25<abrotman>xubuntu support is on #xubuntu on irc.freenode.net
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09:32<JacksonIsaac>I am trying to package a ruby gem but my ruby test 1.9.1 failed due to cannot load file --active_record
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09:35<lucas_>Hi, is there someone here their can guide me through installment of audio device for an hp6730s laptop
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10:18<Samkov>on my netbook I did a fresh wheezy install and now whenever i boot up it says i have a wired connection (when no wire is plugged in) any way to fix this?
10:19<dancus> /list i3
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10:40<maxim-ngs>Volume group "deb-xen" not found
10:40<maxim-ngs>(initramfs) _
10:40<maxim-ngs>how resolve this problem
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11:09<bla>i installed Hurd through debootstrap in a ext2 partition but when i tried to chroot in i got segmentation fault :S
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11:19<sney>hurd!
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12:28<txt_file>is there a way to find all packages which have a newer version than the repository?
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12:29<abrotman>find where?
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12:33<JacksonIsaac>change the sources to sid or jessie
12:33<JacksonIsaac>and run apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade
12:35<abrotman>no ...
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12:53<maxim-ngs>hello
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12:54<maxim-ngs>hello
12:54<maxim-ngs>Development here?
12:55<maxim-ngs>debian
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12:55<maxim-ngs>For development:
12:55<maxim-ngs>Debian is no longer a convenient and reliable
12:55<maxim-ngs>1. of the installer removed the memory test.
12:56<maxim-ngs>2. after installation with LVM is not important how to select, automatically or manually
12:56<maxim-ngs>  System will not boot Volume group 'deb-xen' not found
12:56<ompaul>maxim-ngs: can you ask your real question, and we may be able to help you evaluate what to do next, but as we all failed telepathy classes, I'm afraid you will need much more data
12:56<maxim-ngs>3. after installing xen-system-4.1 system does not boot
12:56<maxim-ngs>developers are the guys if you can not do more reliable and convenient distribution then do not do that no more, I have lost over time.
12:56<maxim-ngs>went to check centos. and you think about it. (I've always enjoyed your distribution, but here Takaya racherovanie)
12:56<maxim-ngs>Would xen under freebsd I have not even thought about the choice.
12:56<less>Ask a question, or go to FreeBSD. ;-)
12:56<ompaul>maxim-ngs: so you want (A) LVM and (B) xen and (C) what?
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12:57<ompaul>maxim-ngs: and what exactly did you install?
12:57<maxim-ngs>sorry
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13:03<maxim-ngs>i am install debian 7.1 use LVM but system not boot, i doing
13:03<maxim-ngs>vgchange -ay
13:03<maxim-ngs>ctrl-D
13:03<maxim-ngs>and system boot. It first problem (fixed)
13:03<maxim-ngs>2. install xen
13:03<maxim-ngs>after reboot to xen-4.1 system not boot
13:03<maxim-ngs>volume group deb-xen not found
13:03<maxim-ngs>and Wireless keyboard stops working.
13:03<maxim-ngs>
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13:07<txt_file>abrotman: I want to find all installed packages which are newer than the repository
13:07<txt_file>i do not know how else I can explain it
13:08<Nirgal>txt_file: newer upstream? or newer in another repository?
13:08<txt_file>where the installed version is higher than the one which I could get from the repository
13:09<abrotman>txt_file: find them where?
13:09<abrotman>in another repository? upstream tar.gz?
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13:09<txt_file>repository = wheezy + wheezy-security
13:10<abrotman>txt_file: aptitude update;aptitude search '~U'
13:10<Nirgal>txt_file: You installed some "newer" version using dpkg -i or simmilar, and now you want the list of theses packages that should be there, right?
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13:10<Nirgal>s/should/shouldn't/
13:10<txt_file>Nirgal: excactly
13:11<thierno>maxim-ngs:you need to create the volume groups yourself or configure xen for that matter
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13:13<Nirgal>txt_file: If they are .deb files outside of Debian, dpkg-query might help you with "origin" .....
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13:15<maxim-ngs>hardware config :
13:15<thierno>maxim-ngs: ~200+ files in the config needs to be tweek base on your needs
13:15<maxim-ngs>3 hdd
13:15<maxim-ngs>1 hdd - (debian + xen +lvm)
13:15<maxim-ngs>2,3 (raid 1) for store vm image
13:15<maxim-ngs>I have problem with debian system and xen
13:15<txt_file>Nirgal: thanks … reading man page now
13:17<Nirgal>txt_file: I tried, didn't work .... :/
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13:21<txt_file>I also think so
13:26<ompaul>,versions xen
13:26<judd>No package named 'xen' was found in i386.
13:26<txt_file>another idea: using "aptitude versions" and grepping
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13:26<ompaul>,versions xen-system-amd64
13:26<judd>Package: xen-system-amd64 on i386 -- wheezy: 4.1.4-3+deb7u1; wheezy-security: 4.1.4-3+deb7u1; jessie: 4.1.4-4; sid: 4.2.2-1
13:27<maxim-ngs>xen-system-amd-64 (xen-hypervisor-4.1)
13:27<ompaul>maxim-ngs: the wireless keyboard not working seems to indicate there are other issues afoot
13:27<ompaul>does it work in the host, and is the host debian
13:29<maxim-ngs> the wireless keyboard not working dom-0.
13:29<maxim-ngs>i can not boot with xen-hypervisor
13:30<maxim-ngs>without xen keyboard work
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13:31<ompaul>maxim-ngs: I have to wander, if the hypervisor is not seeing attached stuff I suggest it is in some way not fully installed, I presume you have apt-cache search xen | less and checked for other things you may not have installed - I have to run now will be missing for some time
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13:32<maxim-ngs>thanks you very much
13:32<maxim-ngs>i try
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13:47<Nirgal>txt_file: try aptitude show '~i!?origin(debian)'
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13:54<maxim-ngs>good bay all
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13:59<Nirgal>txt_file: ~A selector might help you too. See aptitude-doc packages
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14:14<Lykkepillen>Hi guys, Is this the right place to ask about apps (DenyHosts) or can you recommend another place? :)
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14:15<abrotman>for which distro?
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14:16<Lykkepillen>Debian
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14:22<Lykkepillen>Okay I'll just ask then. DenyHosts keeps adding an IP of a guy working with my server. I tried using the "allowed-hosts" file as stated here http://tinyurl.com/denyhosts-faq but it didn't work
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14:23<Lykkepillen>I have no idea how to keep denyhosts from adding his IP to the hosts.deny file
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15:05<valdyn>Lykkepillen: what is he doing to trigger denyhosts ?
15:05<Itsmorefun>Someone that know C language anf linux kernel can help me to convert a C code working in 2.6.31 with 3.10.4 ?
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15:26<Lykkepillen>valdyn: Actually nothing i think. He logs in once and starts working when he's suddently kicked and is unable to log in again. I tried removing his IP from the access log but that didn't help.. It's like his IP i added every 10-15 minutes
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15:47<fcrs>what are the names of some text-to-speech debian packages? is there a default one?
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15:50<abrotman>fcrs: /msg dpkg search
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15:52<fcrs>i understand the arguments for due dilligence but honestly virtually all answers can be found via google so...the irc is for? i think the posibility that someone has already researched it themselves and could provide a quick answer is a valuble part of irc
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15:54<phillipsjk>IRC can also be useful if you do your basic search and get stuck.
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15:54<ompaul>fcrs: that wasn't the suggestion, >> apt-cache search text to speech | less << seems to me to be what you want to do polling the channel isn't not really what debian irc is good at mostly because there is no best and default is not install
15:56<phillipsjk>The regular contributors to this channel make an effort to teach people how to find the information themselves.
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15:56<jmcnaught>in wheezy the debian installer can be used with a speech synthesizer, but to be fair the release notes don't mention which one is used
15:56<jmcnaught>the manual however indicates that espeak is used
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16:17<ZIPY>SynrG: i installed the eeepc-acpi-scripts to change hybrid-engine, where do i find this script now ^^
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16:19<mc68040>ZIPY: 'dpkg -L eeepc-acpi-scripts' shows you all files of the package
16:22<mc68040>ZIPY: and in /usr/share/doc/eeepc-acpi-scripts is usually more information about package
16:23<ZIPY>k im trying to figure out how to change super hybrid engine modes
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16:26<ZIPY>mc68040: i can change the configuration in eee-superhe.conf but isnt there a faster way since i want to swtich everytime
16:28<mc68040>ZIPY: sorry, i dont know about this topic at all - i just gave generic hints where to go further
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16:29<ZIPY>ok no problem, im still on research :P
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16:29<SynrG>ZIPY: Fn-Spacebar is the default key mapping i think.
16:30<SynrG>ZIPY: however, wma bios is badly behaved wrt changing SHE modes. you can change them, but the current mode status cannot be read
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16:31<ZIPY>SynrG: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/HowTo/Configure#Scripts_.28eeepc-acpi-scripts.29 says there is an auto mode too but it doesnt say how to activate ^^
16:32<SynrG>ZIPY: did you read /usr/share/doc/eeepc-acpi-scripts/README.Debian ?
16:32<ZIPY>ye but only on the fly, i will check again
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16:38<SynrG>ZIPY: if you read that but are still missing it, it points you at the examples
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16:42<ZIPY>-.- the readme points me back to the wiki hehe
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17:12<Newbumz>Hi All, if I want to switch to Jessie for GLIBC_2.14 can I just edit my sources.list and update?
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17:17<@babilen>dpkg: tell Newbumz -about wheezy->jessie
17:17<@babilen>Newbumz: Note that it is quite unlikely that you actualle require libc6 >= 2.14
17:17<@babilen>*actually
17:18<Newbumz>I just bought a LEAP motion and require it for the SDK
17:18-!-mode/#debian [-o babilen] by ChanServ
17:18<babilen>As they offer no binaries that are compiled against a lower version?
17:19<Newbumz>Doesn't seem like it, from what I have read. It was created for UBUNTU 12 other devs have been needing to use alien to get it to other distros.
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17:20<babilen>Sounds like an unfortunate decision by upstream. I would be quite surprised if they really require any feature in 2.14 or if they just don't care and simply target it because they can.
17:21<babilen>Well, read the factoid the bot sent you and https://wiki.debian.org/DebianUnstable and enjoy your proprietary heaven! ;)
17:21<Newbumz>babilen: I forced it to install but it won't launch it just whines that I am not using <= 2.14, the installer wanted 2.15.
17:21<Newbumz>Thanks
17:23<babilen>Newbumz: You might want to file a bug with upstream. It is probably *very* easy for them to target a much lower libc6 version (if they'd actually care).
17:23<Newbumz>I don't think they do
17:24<Newbumz>It is proprietary and it seems they only released the SDK to get linux devs to stop reverse engineering the product.
17:24<SamB>babilen: I remember hearing that just about all packages started depending on >= 2.14 when 2.17 hit sid
17:25<SamB>so it's probably just an accident of what the binaries were built against?
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17:26<babilen>SamB: It's typically upstreams who want to support "Lunix" and target Ubuntu, but don't actually care or think about the ramifications of arbitrary decisions like depending on a specific libc6 version.
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17:29<Newbumz>I have no use for ubuntu but at least they do get the ball rolling.
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17:38<ZIPY>SynrG: i dont have a folder /usr/share/eeepc-acpi-scripts/examples/
17:38<ZIPY>not even eepc-acpi-scripts
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17:55<apostle>rebooted into my linux system, my 750 GB drive is no longer mounting, /dev/sdc1 16065 1465144064 732564000 f W95 Ext'd (LBA)
17:56<apostle>I am confused as to what this is W95 Ext'd (LBA)
17:56<apostle>can anyone help?
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18:00<valdyn>apostle: thats nothing but a label on the partition, doesnt tell whats on it
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18:03<Newbumz>apostle: It almost sounds like your /dev/sd* has changed around can you do a # blkid ?
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18:05<Newbumz>apostle also what format was that drive?
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18:18<apostle>Newbumz, sorry
18:18<apostle>rebooted my system
18:18<Newbumz>np
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18:18<apostle>Newbumz, how do I perform your step?
18:18<apostle>blkid?
18:18<Newbumz>Might need to install it
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18:20<apostle>Newbumz, apt-cache search blkid
18:20<Newbumz>Yeah you need to be sudo or root to run it
18:20<apostle>k
18:20<apostle>ran it
18:21<apostle>Newbumz, /dev/sdc5: UUID="25c0a0db-8f31-47e5-b71a-810f517e90c0" TYPE="ext2"
18:21<apostle>so its an ext 2
18:21<apostle>Newbumz, but not mounting anymore?
18:21<Newbumz>that line you pasted was from your fstab?
18:22<apostle>from blkid
18:22<Newbumz>The previous with w95 in it
18:22<apostle>yes
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18:23<Newbumz>Have you ever had windows installed on it? or formatted for NTFS?
18:23<apostle>oh god never
18:23<Newbumz>Odd
18:23<apostle>thats why i'm worried
18:23<apostle>this was an extended partition
18:23<Newbumz>try just mounting /dev/sdc2 and just see what happens maybe?
18:24<apostle>wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdc5
18:24<Newbumz>It's an external?
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18:25<apostle>no
18:25<apostle>SATA Drive internal
18:25<apostle>[ 727.194272] EXT2-fs (sdc5): error: ext2_check_descriptors: Block bitmap for group 2560 not in group (block 29)!
18:25<apostle>[ 727.194277] EXT2-fs (sdc5): group descriptors corrupted
18:25<Newbumz>Mmmm I'm a newb but it sounds like it might be bad sectors.
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18:26<Newbumz>Maybe check forums before trying an fsck
18:26<apostle>k
18:26<apostle>thanks
18:26<blast007>luckily you have all that data backed up, right? ;)
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18:31<apostle>no
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18:31<apostle>ready to shoot myself
18:32<Newbumz>Maybe try unplugging replugging, leave out for a day,
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18:37<apostle>i'm running fsck
18:38<apostle>dev/sdc5 contains a file system with errors, check forced.
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18:41<apostle>Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes
18:41<Newbumz>Side thought it seems odd a HD that big would be ext2 it sounds like it might have lost its journaling.
18:41<apostle>any idea how long this takes for this 750 Gig drive
18:41<Newbumz>Probably a long time
18:41<Newbumz>I think a single pass shred would be 12+ hours
18:41<apostle>what is switch to run it verbosely
18:42<apostle>I don't see anything happening
18:43<Newbumz>-v is verbose, might want to try -c to check for bad blocks first
18:43<Newbumz>I'm possible going to blow up my install in a couple minutes and go offline indefinitely btw.
18:44<apostle>k thanks
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19:03<ardex>xine states need of X11 driver that supports Xv protocol extension
19:03<ardex>no libX11.so
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19:06<devil>libx11-dev should provide it
19:06<Newbumz>Do you need to use Xv or can you use GL?
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19:09<ardex>I'm not sure
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19:09<ardex>I think this is running nouveay on a GForce2.
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19:13<Newbumz>Should be able to select GL in the settings for xine instead of xv then
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19:14<ardex>I'll try that. It as the setup wiz that returned the error
19:15<ardex>Gxine is the gtk version I'm using
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19:16<ardex>That did it. All green. Thanks.
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19:16<apostle>this is the message for my hard drive I can't mount....EXT2-fs (sdc5): group descriptors corrupted
19:18<Newbumz>What does df -h /dev/sdc5 say?
19:19<apostle>udev 10M 0 10M 0% /dev
19:20<Newbumz>that was with /sdc5 ?
19:20<SamB>Newbumz: why would df say anything about an unmounted filesystem
19:20<apostle>yes
19:20<Newbumz>Ah woops forgot it was unmounted
19:24<Newbumz>Did it prompt you to repair anything when you did fsck?
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19:29<apostle>http://jmuras.com/blog/2011/ext2ext3-partition-block-group-error/
19:29<apostle>i'm trying this now
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19:30<apostle>fsck -b 102400000 -y /dev/sdc5
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19:30<apostle>Lots of activity happening with this command
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19:30<anastasis>anyone running the Debian Hurd Mach?
19:31<apostle>Relocating group ####'s inode table to .....
19:31<apostle>hopefully not making things worst
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19:31<apostle>trying fsck with superblock backup
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19:35<apostle>Newbumz, /dev/sdc5 was not cleanly unmounted, check forced.
19:35<apostle>Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes
19:35<apostle>Root inode is not a directory. Clear? yes
19:35<apostle>Pass 2: Checking directory structure
19:35<apostle>Pass 3: Checking directory connectivity
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19:37<Newbumz>Can you dump it into here apostle? http://pastebin.com/
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19:38<apostle>Newbumz,
19:38<apostle>Newbumz, I think I made things worst
19:39<Newbumz>Can you put the output into pastebin?
19:39<apostle>Newbumz, yes
19:39<apostle>one second
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19:42<apostle>Newbumz, http://pastebin.com/G1q7WZ8y
19:43<Newbumz>Is there a .lost+found folder on it by chance?
19:44<apostle>yes
19:44<Newbumz>Is it empty?
19:44<blast007>anastasis: there is a #debian-hurd channel
19:44<apostle>I did not check it yet
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19:45<apostle>Newbumz, o god
19:45<apostle>Newbumz, its empty
19:45<apostle>Newbumz, what did I just do
19:45<apostle>Newbumz, I'm going to go find a bridge
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19:46<abrotman>anastasis: there's a hurd channel on this network
19:47<apostle>Newbumz, do you know what I just did
19:47*abrotman now sees what blast007 said .. yay
19:47<apostle>Newbumz, the drive mounts now but no data
19:47<Newbumz>apostle, realy sorry only thing I can think of is trying to run extundelete on it.
19:48<Newbumz>Anyone have a better idea?
19:48<apostle>Newbumz, what did I do with that command?
19:48<apostle>when I ran fsck with a back up superblock
19:48<apostle>what did that do
19:48<apostle>http://jmuras.com/blog/2011/ext2ext3-partition-block-group-error/
19:49<Newbumz>http://extundelete.sourceforge.net/
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19:49<Newbumz>I really don't know what else you could try :(
19:49<apostle>Newbumz,
19:49<blast007>professional data recovery services
19:49<apostle>I mean what did the fsck with a backup superbloc do?
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19:51<Newbumz>I think it should have just backed up the file system information.
19:51<abrotman>what's the actual problem again?
19:52<apostle>I had a hard drive that would not mount
19:52<apostle>abrotman, where you asking about my issue?
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19:53<apostle>initial problem was this http://pastebin.com/bZu47dbS
19:54<abrotman>and you formatted your partition to fix that?
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19:55<apostle>no
19:55<apostle>I was trying to fsck the drive with a back up superblock
19:55<apostle>fsck -b 102400000 -y /dev/sdc5
19:55<apostle>and this allowed me to mount the drive
19:55<apostle>but its totally empty
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19:56<apostle>abrotman, did I totally make things worst?
19:57<apostle>I tried with a superblock back up
19:57<apostle>and this totally lost all my data?
19:58<abrotman>there aren't even directories?
19:58<apostle>nothing
19:58<apostle>just lost and found
19:59<apostle>when mounted totally empty
19:59<apostle>is it possible to fsck with another back up superblock
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20:00<apostle>abrotman, http://pastebin.com/rNYPszCg
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20:00<apostle>abrotman, I tried with that command
20:00<apostle>abrotman, I really need this data
20:00<apostle>abrotman, oh boy oh boy
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20:01<ovnicraft>hello, when i use fn+shift+prt src where is saved the png file ?
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20:07<apostle>abrotman, i'm a totally out of luck, this is by far the worst computer problem I've ever had
20:07<abrotman>apostle: you probably sohuld have taken an image before you started all of this
20:07<apostle>abrotman, as much as I have totally messed this up now
20:08<apostle>abrotman, what did the fsck with back up superblock do
20:08<abrotman>did you read the man page?
20:09<abrotman>or just blindly follow a web page?
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20:10<apostle>abrotman, did not read the man page
20:10<apostle>abrotman, followed that web page
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20:11<apostle>abrotman, I going to shoot myself
20:13<apostle>I have umounted the hard drive that seems to be totally deleted
20:13<apostle>I have not written any data to this drive
20:14<apostle>does anybody know of steps that can be taken to recover files from this drive
20:14<apostle>i'm desperate
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20:18<blast007>apostle: thre are companies that specialize in data recovery. however, prepare to spend a good bit of money.. depends how valuable the data is though
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20:54<icefairy>hello everyone
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21:01<el_richk>The sound through hdmi is not working. Execute lspci -v show that the hdmi audio device is recognize but not show any kernel driver loaded. If I execute cat /proc/asound/cards just show only one sound card. The video card is a ati gpu and the driver instaled for it is from the debian wheezy repository. Can someone help with this?
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21:13<yayo1313>ay alguien alli :P
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21:14<wayner>hey there, i got problems with my sound on a new installed/build system, it uses amd fch southbridge (a85x), before i started playing around it used some driver, now not even that works anymore
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21:16<wayner>not sure if the alsa system now expects allwys to have a alsaconf under etc
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22:05<damian> /query rypervenche
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22:07<neo>hello everybody
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22:08<Guest2266>hello everybody
22:08<Guest2266>can you help me to "disable video card radeon"
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22:09<SamB>easy method: turn off your computer
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22:10<neo_x>can you help me to "disable video card radeon"
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22:12<blast007>neo_x: what are you trying to accomplish?
22:13<neo_x>i did follow http://planetoss.com/articles/how-to-disable-the-discrete-amd-graphics-card-in-linux/
22:13<neo_x>but
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22:14<neo_x>it is not exist /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch
22:15<neo_x>i can't disable video card on kali linux
22:16<blast007>!kali
22:16<dpkg>Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on irc.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>.
22:16<neo_x>can you help me to disable video card on BIOS of dell vostro 3560
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22:32<diegooo>hi, anyone here ?
22:32<diegooo>I just installed debian on a new SSD (Samsung 840 Pro) and grub will fail to install
22:33<diegooo>I'm currently in a rescue shell and I cannot get grub installed in any way
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22:33<diegooo>it keeps saying it doesn't find a filesystem in my (chroot) partition
22:34<diegooo>I think it might be some SSD + Encrypted LVM support issue (my old disk was not SSD and I didn't have an Encrypted LVM)
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22:37<diego>hello
22:38<apostle>does anybody know when superblock makes backups of itself
22:39<diego>no, sorry, any help with grub2 on SSD Encrypted LVM ?
22:43<apostle>this is my list of superblocks for the partition I am trying to recover
22:43<apostle>http://pastebin.com/Y5rnnX19
22:43<apostle>Can any of these superblocks pring back the correct information to recover my files?
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22:53<apostle>hello
22:53<TirixTa>Tired of niggers? Sick of their monkeyshines? We are too! Join Chimpout Forum! http://www.chimpout.com/forum At Chimpout, we are NOT white supremacists! I myself am a Mexican! Basically, if you are not a NIGGER and you hate NIGGERS, we welcome you with open arms! Join Chimpout Forum today! http://www.chimpout.com/forum
22:54<apostle>e2fsck -b 884736 /dev/sdc5
22:54<apostle>I ran this and now when I mount
22:54<apostle>I see this with df -h
22:54<apostle>/dev/sdc5 688G 530G 124G 82% /media/disk2
22:54-!-mode/#debian [+o abrotman] by ChanServ
22:54-!-mode/#debian [+b *!*@187.153.20.76] by abrotman
22:54-!-mode/#debian [-o abrotman] by abrotman
22:54<apostle>but when I browser into directory I only see lost and found
22:54<apostle>and don't see any files
22:54<apostle>abrotman, any ideas with the latest info
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22:55<abrotman>haven't been reading
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22:55<apostle>abrotman, I mounted /dev/sdc5 688G 530G 124G 82% /media/disk2
22:55<abrotman>it sounds like a corrupted filesystem
22:55<apostle>what is correct steps to recover filesystem from here
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22:56<apostle>before I mess it up again
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22:58<diego>hello, any help with grub ?
22:58-!-mode/#debian [+b TirixTa*!*@*] by ChanServ
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22:59*SamB didn't know ChanServ could do that
23:02<abrotman>SamB: chanserv didn't
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23:05<apostle>anybody know what this means Free blocks count wrong for group #835 (0, counted=32254).
23:06<el_richk>The sound through hdmi is not working, lspci shows the hdmi device but not show kernel driver loaded. Can someone help me?
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23:09<XReaper>chanserv kickban? :P
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