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01:34<boss>How to install ia32-libs in debian wheezy 64bit
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01:35<Apollo>!multiarch
01:35<dpkg>Multiarch allows you to install foreign architecture packages. For example, to allow i386 packages to be installed on an amd64 system: «dpkg --add-architecture i386 && apt-get update». See http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch and <multiarch howto>, <multiarch failures>. For the unrelated installer that can install i386 or amd64, see <multi-arch installer>.
01:37<Guest2747>Apollo, I've added multiarch support. But i'm unable to install libc6:i386 package. It shows conflict.
01:37<jm_>!bat
01:37<dpkg>In order for us to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: The complete output of your apt-get/aptitude/dselect run (including the command you used); the output from apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2...; for the relevant packages and "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>.
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01:41<Guest2747>dpkg, http://paste.debian.net/23781/
01:41<dpkg>parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Guest2747
01:41<Guest2747>Apollo, http://paste.debian.net/23781/
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01:46<jm_>you already have it installed
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02:49<stderr>ixi: Regarding your earlier question about "cat"'ing from a FTP-server... "wget -O -" could be what you're looking for.
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02:52<ixi>true
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03:04<antonio>ciao
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04:20<|Frederik>I don't have any ~/.xsession-errors file anymore. What happend to this?
04:20<|Frederik>Is this now in another location?
04:21<jm_>no, standard Xsession still creates that
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04:23<|Frederik>hm, weird. Here it is missing
04:24<jm_>so maybe you're not using it, and if it's not writable, it will be created in /tmp/xsession-$USER
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04:27<|Frederik>https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=152359 : the output is in ~/.cache/gdm/session.log
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04:27<jm_>so you're not using debian?
04:28<|Frederik>yes I am
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04:45<SynrG>|Frederik: /etc/X11/Xsession:ERRFILE=$HOME/.xsession-errors
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04:47<SynrG>|Frederik: so if /home is screwed it might land in /tmp
04:47<SynrG>(reading forwards from that point in Xsession)
04:48<SynrG>by 'screwed' i mean inaccessible, or at least unwritable
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04:48<SynrG>as in the case where you have an nfs /home that's offline
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04:57<|Frederik>homes are not on nfs, and .xsession-errors is neither in /tmp. Anyway, the ~/.cache/gdm/session.log file is fine
04:57<jm_>never used gdm but one of its files sure does mention .xsession-errors
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05:04<SynrG>|Frederik: my question is, how are you not executing /etc/X11/Xsession?
05:05<SynrG>or if you are, why does it not execute the line i pasted above?
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05:10<|Frederik>I have no idea. this is just a Debian jessie system with gdm 3.8 from experimental
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05:10<SynrG>doh
05:11<SynrG>so it would've been nice if you had disclosed you were using experimental in the first place
05:12<SynrG>and generally, experimental packages are built against unstable not testing. anything that actually works on jessie is not by design
05:12<SynrG>also, -> #debian-next for testing/unstable support
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05:41<peter1138>So I just installed postgresql in a wheezy lxc container, and... "supported_versions: WARNING: Unknown Debian release: 7.1"
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07:10<batman>Alguien de habla hispana por aquí?
07:10<daemonkeeper>!es
07:10<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
07:11<batman>okey! Thanks!
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07:59<pdro>Olá !
07:59<pdro>Alguém me pode ajudar ?
07:59<pdro>Tou com problemas no meu ubuntu .
08:00<zumbi>!pt
08:00<dpkg>Por favor use #debian-pt para ajuda em portugues ou #debian-br para ajuda em portugues do brasil. ( /join #debian-pt )
08:00<zumbi>!ubuntu
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08:01<zumbi>dpkg: ubuntu
08:01<dpkg>Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>.
08:02<zumbi>pdro: ^^
08:03<pdro>thank you
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08:05<JacksonIsaac>I cannot start debian jessie after selecting grub
08:05<JacksonIsaac>can't access tty . Can anyone help please
08:05<JacksonIsaac>job control turned off
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08:06<zumbi>JacksonIsaac: is your user in tty group?
08:06<family>hey
08:06<JacksonIsaac>I don't know
08:06<JacksonIsaac>I just installed it now
08:06<zumbi>JacksonIsaac: how did you install it?
08:06<JacksonIsaac>the cd-1 iso from debian.org
08:07<JacksonIsaac>installed on vbox
08:08<zumbi>JacksonIsaac: see if you can get in a terminal and check /dev/tty permissions and your user have rw access to it
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08:08<jm_>support for jessie is in #debian-next
08:09<zumbi>do we already have jessie cds?
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08:09<zumbi>ah! right, we got weekly snapshots
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08:12<JacksonIsaac>my host machines grub menu image has been changed to debian ?
08:12<JacksonIsaac>how can i restore it
08:12<musca>zumbi: Do you want to install testing or test installing?
08:13<jm_>how has it been changed?
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08:14<JacksonIsaac>I just installed the latest testing snapshot on vbox and then I rebooted host machine and debian image was coming in grub menu
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08:16<musca>did you boot from CD?
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08:18<JacksonIsaac>the iso was in my host file system
08:18<JacksonIsaac>and i just installed it in my vbox
08:18<jm_>put your grub.cfg file on some pastebin
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08:19<JacksonIsaac>http://paste.ubuntu.com/5966222/
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08:20<jm_>you're using ubuntu?
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08:20<JacksonIsaac>yes 12.04
08:21<jm_>!ubuntuirc JacksonIsaac
08:21<dpkg>JacksonIsaac: This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server chat.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://chat.freenode.net/ubuntu
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08:22<JacksonIsaac>and what about the debian jessie not loading
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08:23<JacksonIsaac>i got the error can't access tty, job control turned off
08:23<musca>when booting from the snapshot-ISO?
08:23<musca>or the installed system?
08:23<JacksonIsaac>yup
08:23<JacksonIsaac>installed
08:24<JacksonIsaac>installation was completed then I rebooted the guest machine and this error came up
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08:26<blast007>JacksonIsaac: how did you install jessie?
08:26<JacksonIsaac>cd-1 iso from debian.org
08:27<blast007>which ISO? the wheezy one?
08:27<JacksonIsaac>unstable
08:28<JacksonIsaac>blast007: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/i386/iso-cd/debian-testing-i386-CD-1.iso
08:28<blast007>I think it's generally recommended to install from Wheezy and then upgrade
08:28<musca>these are for testing the installer not for installing testing.
08:30<musca>in this early state the testing installer is not expected to be useable.
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08:31<JacksonIsaac>how can I install through wheezy
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08:32<blast007>you install wheezy, and then upgrade to jessie
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08:33<JacksonIsaac>what command shuld I run
08:33<JacksonIsaac>or directly open the iso inside wheezy?
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08:33<blast007>if you're asking that, you probably shouldn't run testing, but.. /msg dpkg wheezy->jessie
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08:34<JacksonIsaac>just run dpkg wheezy-> jessie?
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08:35<blast007>no.. dpkg is a bot here.
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08:36<blast007>dpkg: tell JacksonIsaac about wheezy->jessie
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08:37<blast007>JacksonIsaac: why are you wanting to run Jessie?
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08:40<JacksonIsaac>for activerecord 4.0.0
08:40<JacksonIsaac>I am packaging a gem for diaspora
08:41<JacksonIsaac>and also I need to run gnome-music and gnome-3.8 so I need the latest version
08:41<JacksonIsaac>I have modified my sources.list from wheezy to sid
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08:42<blast007>jessie != sid
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08:44<JacksonIsaac>do sid has all the latest packages?
08:45<JacksonIsaac>or should I go for jessie
08:45<JacksonIsaac>i need activerecord 4.0 beta
08:45<b1n0>packages.debian.org
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08:46<blast007>JacksonIsaac: if you want to run sid, you should update to testing first, not straight from stable to sid
08:46<JacksonIsaac>is there any wiki page which I can follow to do this
08:47<blast007>!sid
08:47<dpkg>[sid] the codename for <unstable>, named after the kid in Toy Story that breaks toys. The great thing about running sid is that, when it breaks you get to keep ALL the pieces!!
08:48<JacksonIsaac>!sid
08:48<dpkg>sid is probably the codename for <unstable>, named after the kid in Toy Story that breaks toys. The great thing about running sid is that, when it breaks you get to keep ALL the pieces!!
08:48<blast007>yes... that's the factoid I just ran...
08:49<JacksonIsaac>do I need to run some command to update to testing?
08:49<blast007>what research have you done on this so far?
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08:51<JacksonIsaac>not much
08:51<JacksonIsaac>I googled for updating from wheezy to sid and it was like change the sources.list and tun apt-get dist-upgrade
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08:53<blast007>well, have fun.
08:53<JacksonIsaac>will this work
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08:58<JacksonIsaac>?
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08:59<blast007>JacksonIsaac: you're doing this in a VM, right? create a snapshot and see.
09:00<musca>JacksonIsaac: there is an ongoing transition from gnome 3.4 to 3.8
09:00<JacksonIsaac>okay
09:00<musca>i can'T predict for today.
09:00<JacksonIsaac>I tried using jhbuild but some traacker issue is there
09:00<JacksonIsaac>tracker is listing the songs but in gnome-music it is not loading
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09:01<JacksonIsaac>but will this be available in wheezy? or I will have to upgrade to later version?
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10:44<matt_mi>I have installed Debian 7.1 on a Panasonic CF-27. I have a USB wifi (model: TER/GUSB2-N) showing up as Ralink RT2501USB under 'lsusb'. I have been unable to connect to my network using IWCONFIG and DHCLIENT. Does anyone know where I can start looking for my problem? I am using console mostly, with i3-wm when needed.
10:45<babilen>ralink chipsets are known to be pesky, but lets see
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10:45<babilen>dpkg: tell matt_mi -about RT2501USB
10:45<babilen>matt_mi: Do you have the firmware package installed already?
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10:48<matt_mi>I think so. It was complaining about missing firmware, so I downloaded rt73.bin and the message went away. It recognizes it, the status led flashes when I try dhclient, but won't connect? Is there any specific firmware package I should use, or any specific dir where a FW file should be placed?
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10:51<zathras>matt_mi, include non-free in your sources.list
10:51<babilen>matt_mi: Yes, there is. It is documented on https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/rt73 and you should ask the bot about <firmware ralink>
10:52<babilen>brb
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10:54<matt_mi>babilen: many RTxxxx.bin files are located under /lib/firmware. I am new to IRC, how would I ask the bot? I will add non-free, however I do not currently have internet access on that computer.
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11:01<babilen>matt_mi: Just read the wiki page, sorry have to go :-/
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11:01<matt_mi>Thanks
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11:34<dawid>how can i make a network for hotel guests with authorisation. this network may be based on hostapd
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12:18<Rasteril>Anyone know if there is a way to make the fglrx driver compatible with older cards??
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12:26<mshuler>Rasteril: you might look at fglrx-legacy-driver
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12:32<neo1691>Hello Everyone
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12:34<musca>hello neo1691
12:35<neo1691>I have downloaded debian-7.1.0-amd64-DVD-1 ie DVD 1 of debian . Is it enough to install debian? I will be able to download the other two disks next week
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12:36<musca>neo1691: too much already :)
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12:37<musca>neo1691: after installation you can install packages from debians network repository.
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12:38<musca>neo1691: which desktop environment do you want to install?
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12:43<neo1691>musca: I think I want to go with snome
12:43<neo1691>*gnome
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12:49<neo1691>musca: Sorry got disconnected, I would like to go with gnome.
12:49<neo1691>But I would sure prefer all the other possible options
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12:49<musca>it's the standard, don't need to choose then.
12:50<neo1691>I am looking forward to make a bootable usb using unetbooting
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12:50<musca>oh no
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12:50<neo1691>musca: ?
12:50<musca>neo1691: on windows please prefer win32diskimager
12:51<musca>!usb install
12:51<dpkg>You can install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key on x86 systems, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide, see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03 and ask me about <install debian> for hybrid CD/DVD images. Use http://sf.net/projects/win32diskimager/ to write images from Windows. For BIOSes not capable of USB boot, ask me about <plop>.
12:51<neo1691>dpkg rocks!! Again :)
12:51<dpkg>neo1691: are you smoking crack?
12:51<neo1691>lol
12:52<torguy>dpkg rocks!!
12:52<dpkg>yes I do
12:53<neo1691>clever bot.. Anyways The only problem I have a machine ready with windows 7 and ubuntu 13.04 dual booted. Ubuntu 13.04 is on a single partition with / as mount point. I want to remove ubuntu and install debian over it.
12:53<neo1691>looking forward to backup whatever I can
12:53<torguy>should be simple
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13:03<Marshall>do i have to install something (like smb) just to view files on external drive connected to the router?
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13:05<blast007>neo1691: in any case, back up any data you're worried about losing before you start the install.
13:05<musca>you router might use diffrent protocols like smb,ftp,http,nfs. see the manual of your router
13:05<cmacphe>#ubuntu
13:06<musca>^ klick it!
13:07<neo1691>I will try to creat a new partition and copying the contents of the /home to it, and then when I will install debian, I will try to set the mount point of the new /home to this newly created partition
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13:07<neo1691>Hopefully it works
13:07<Marshall>in my router settings Network File Server (Windows Networking) is enabled, which is prob why i have no problems mapping on windows...
13:07<Marshall>and UPnP AV Media Server is enabled, can i use this with linux?
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13:11<wompa>it's probably almost empty here on OFTC network
13:12<wompa>I mean the #ubuntu channel
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13:19<neo1691>Can somebody tell me what is a hyvbrid cd/dvd? I have downloaded the debian-7.1.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso file. Not sure whether its hybrid
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13:22<mgv>dpkg: tell neo1691 about hybrid iso
13:23<Borgbox>how large is the pgp keyring, i've been importing for 15 minutes already
13:23<Borgbox>^debian pgp keyring, ofc
13:23<neo1691>mgv: Thanks!
13:23<mgv>neo1691: you're welcome
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13:23<neo1691>That means whatever I have downloaded is hybrid
13:24<redshadowhero>neo1691: YEs.
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13:24<redshadowhero>s/E/e/
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13:58<staufinc>Hey. Does anyone know anything about the CheckPolicy command? I'm trying to find information about it and I cant even 'which' it to see where it is located
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13:59<thiago_>ola
13:59<thiago_>alguemdesp ?
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14:03<esseks>hi! how can I configure packagekit-gnome so that all users can upgrade the system?
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14:16<stderr>staufinc: Do you mean checkpolicy (lowercase)? It's /usr/bin (if you have install the "checkpolicy" package).
14:17<staufinc>I do mean '
14:17<staufinc>sorry
14:17<staufinc>I do mean 'CheckPolicy'
14:19<staufinc>I don't see it anywhere on my system. I can't 'which' it. and there is no man page.
14:19<stderr>If you have apt-file installed, you could try apt-file search CheckPolicy. I don't have it, but I only got packages from main and it might be in contrib or non-free.
14:20<stderr>If you can live with lowercase checkpolicy, it does have a man page...
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14:21<child>someone here already used hybserv, I tried to make it works with ircd-hybrid but the daemon do not connect, and all the logs says its working, some advice??
14:21<child>the daemon do not works and dont appears on ps
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14:22<illogicallus>http://paste.debian.net/hidden/258de13e/
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14:22<illogicallus>I am getting errors trying to move to testing
14:22<illogicallus>c3sl repos didn't have stuff also
14:22<staufinc>I'm not sure why I have checkpolicy actually, I just know in the default acpi script there is a line which says "CheckPolicy && exit" which is preventing the script from being completed. I wanted to find out more about it before just blatantly deleting it.
14:24<stderr>illogicallus: Remove (or comment out) line 5 and everything should work.
14:24<staufinc>line 5?
14:24<stderr>illogicallus: You probably also want to change "testing" to "jessie" in line 3.
14:24<stderr>staufinc: In his paste...
14:24<staufinc>sorry
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14:27<stderr>staufinc: What the name of "the default acpi script"?
14:28<stderr>There's a CheckPolicy function in /usr/share/acpi-support/policy-funcs
14:28<stderr>Could that be what you're looking for?
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14:29<staufinc>its /etc/acpi/lid.sh
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14:30<illogicallus>W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie-updates/main/binary-amd64/Packages 404 Not Found [IP: 130.89.148.12 80]
14:30<staufinc>oooh maybe CheckPolicy is an alias to one of those functions?
14:30<illogicallus>Err http://ftp.debian.org jessie-updates/main amd64 Packages 404 Not Found [IP: 130.89.148.12 80]
14:30<illogicallus>can i do something about it?
14:31<stderr>[20:24:09] <stderr> illogicallus: Remove (or comment out) line 5 and everything should work.
14:31<babilen>illogicallus: Yes, there are no jessie-update (that wouldn't make sense). Just remove that entry.
14:31<stderr>Oh, and run aptitude update
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14:32<stderr>staufinc: Doesn't that script source /usr/share/acpi-support/policy-funcs ?
14:32<babilen>illogicallus: We also have a shiny channel for testing/unstable support on this network. Just head over to #debian-next :)
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14:32<illogicallus>It worked, thanks
14:32<stderr>No problem.
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14:33<illogicallus>iceweasel was too old for using that official firefox addon to change the language of the UI
14:33<illogicallus>on stable
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14:35<staufinc>stderr: yes, but im also able to run it in the shell
14:35<staufinc>without sourcing anything. unless its done that in the bashrc?
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14:35<musca>child: ircd-hybrid 8.x is not compatible with hybserv. funny thing, isn't it?
14:36<stderr>staufinc: Try: type CheckPolicy
14:36<blast007>illogicallus: Had you known about this? http://mozilla.debian.net/
14:36<child>musca ridiculous... how can I set the servers for ircd-hybrid?
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14:37<staufinc>OH. it's a function
14:37<stderr>Told you...
14:38<illogicallus>blast007: now it's too late :
14:38<illogicallus>:/
14:39<child>musca, by the way, thank you
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14:40<staufinc>I'm not really sure what the function is doing. Is it safe to just comment it out? it seems to be stuff related to power manager things.
14:40<musca>child: look at anope, a replacement for hybserv, but not (yet) packaged
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14:42<stderr>staufinc: I'm not sure what it's doing either. :-/
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14:44<staufinc>well thanks for your help. I will believe it to be safe to comment out.
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14:50<child>musca, I'm trying anope now, thank you
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15:15<giovani>ciao a tutti
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15:17<dpkg>Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help.
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15:20<ixi>I want xargs to iterate over some numbers, form filenames out of them and do something (in parallel). I am trying: echo {1..2} | xargs -n 1 -P 2 stuff file{} but this doesnt work
15:21<stderr>xargs -i ...
15:21<ixi>question: how do I form a string out of pre-defined string and xargs parameter in a command?
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15:22<setuid>Anyone know how to configure fonts in Wheezy? There's no 'gnome-appearance-preferences' or similar app
15:22<stderr>ixi: Furthermore echo write those numbers on one line, you want each on their own line, so either use seq 1 2 | xargs -i ... or echo {1..2} | tr ' ' '\n' | xargs -i ...
15:22<mtn>setuid: gnome-tweak-tool
15:23<ixi>ah yes
15:23<ixi>thanks for the hint about seq
15:23<ixi>I totally need that
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15:25<neo1691>I am trying to copy my /home partition to a newly created partition mounted in /mnt/newhome using the command find . -depth -print0 | cpio --null --sparse -pvd /mnt/newhome/ (as root) But I am getting many permission denied errors like cpio: cannot make directory `/mnt/newhome//./neo1691': Permission denied
15:25<setuid>Great.. now this whole GNOME3 desktop is a nightmare. How do I set key bindings to launch apps, and how to I jump from virtual desktop to virtual desktop? Under sawfish, it's a simple config, and ctrl-left/right or ctrl-up/down jumps me around my virtual desktops.
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15:26<stderr>ixi: You might also want to take a look at "parallel".
15:26<mtn>setuid: ctrl+alt+up or down arrow. all kinds of how gnome 3 works out there on the internet
15:27<mtn>setuid: key bindings are in settings, like you would expect them to be
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16:10<asd>so i have problem with installing chrominum on xubuntu, i downloaded it from google and then it opens it in software center but it wont install it just leaves this message : Software can't be installed or removed because the authentication service is not available. (org.freedesktop.PolicyKit.Error.Failed: ('system-bus-name', {'name': ':1.69'}): org.debian.apt.install-file
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16:12<dondelelcaro>asd: this is #debian, you probably want #ubuntu or #xubuntu
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16:16<scound>hey folks. i just obtained an old winXP machine and i am having zero luck loading the kernel. i get several EDD sector errors, followed by a kernel panic that says its unable to sync: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown wn-block
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16:17<east4serv_>hi
16:18<east4serv_>any body here ?
16:18<blast007>east4serv_: several hundred people, yes. Do you have a Debian support question?
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16:20<scound>blast007, does antiX questions count as debian in here?
16:21<blast007>!antix
16:21<dpkg>antiX is a live CD distribution based on <MEPIS>. It is not supported in #debian. http://antix.mepis.org/ #mepis on irc.freenode.net. See also <based on debian>.
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16:21<scound>oops... thanks.. i will contact the proper support channel
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16:24<nadir>they got an irc channel in the antix forum antix.freeforums.org. I don't think there is another one (in case someone asks again)
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16:24<nadir>mepis channel is a good idea too, i assume
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16:29<neo1691>I had compiled many software and libraries from source, but the installation was done in my /home folder only (sometimes in my /downloads) on ubuntu. Now I am moving to debian and moving my /home to a new partition, will those software and libraries work in debian?
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16:30<stderr>neo1691: Maybe.
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16:30<neo1691>ok
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16:30<neo1691>maybe I'll delete most of them
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16:34<althaser>why my aptitude update is so small ? http://paste.debian.net/23923/
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16:39<ompaul>althaser: for the same fun apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade and have a look at that
16:39<ompaul>althaser: they are not the same :)
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16:43<althaser>ompaul yeah, I think there should be a bit more lines on the updated list :P maybe its my bad ideia :P
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16:45<gusnan_>althaser, I am guessing you are coming from another distro where it is common to add lots of other repositories, in addition to the main archive...
16:45<gusnan_>althaser, It does look like you might be missing deb-src entries though.
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16:49<althaser>gusnan_ what distro beyond debian?! ;) I had a lot of translations lines during the update, I removed them but now I am looking is just these ?
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16:50<ompaul>althaser: so your sources file is one line long?
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16:51<althaser>ompaul yep just one small line :P with main contrib and non-free
16:51<ompaul>althaser: so that is all you want - but for sid seriously use apt-get
16:51<ompaul>not aptitude :)
16:51<gusnan_>althaser, If the problem is "the outdata of apt-get update is too small" rather than "I am missing programs", then I would ignore it.
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16:52<althaser>ompaul mm ok
16:52<althaser>gusnan_ yeah ok :)
16:52<althaser>thanks guys
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17:49<LtL>ctie: no warez here
17:49<ctie>sorry
17:49<LtL>np
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18:28<althaser>gusnan_ I was looking to .pdiff lines :) but it was updated now I got it eheh
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18:53<CoCo>HéHé
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18:54<CoCo>Ça Va ??
18:57<stderr>CoCo: Please speak English.
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18:58<CoCo>Hello
18:58<redshadowhero>!ask
18:58<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
18:58<CoCo>I'm speak French
18:59<stderr>!fr
18:59<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr.
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19:01<CoCo>OhOh
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19:03<CoCo>HéHé :D
19:03<stderr>CoCo: Do you have a debian question?
19:04<CoCo>How old are you ?
19:04<stderr>That's not a _debian_ question.
19:05<musca>Debian is 20 years old.
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19:06<redshadowhero>stderr: Your age seems to be a popular topic around here. That's the second time I've seen that question in about three days.
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19:06<common>hi all
19:07<stderr>musca: Not yet. :-) Initial release: 16 August 1993. About a week left. :-)
19:07<musca>hello common
19:07<musca>i hope debian will survive the next week :)
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19:08<stderr>redshadowhero: Did someone else ask that? I can't remember... I only remember someone asking where I work.
19:10<redshadowhero>stderr: someone yesterday after some nginx question, I think. dejan123 or some such. It's sad that I remember any of that.
19:11<stderr>Ok, I can't remember him asking my age, but I think it was him who asked where I work.
19:11<stderr>Oh, well... Off-topic...
19:11<musca><dejan123> stderr, where you work and age if it's not a secret? :)
19:11<stderr>Ah...
19:12<stderr>Well, it's easy to find out. :-)
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19:13<CoCo>I'm speak french but ...
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19:16<CoCo>I am French, I understand nothing:-P I use google translation so ...
19:16<stderr>dpkg: Tell CoCo about fr
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19:16<johh>!fr
19:16<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr.
19:17<CoCo>I clicked yes but its not market fucking thing
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19:19<CoCo>I made ​​successful in, thank you very much
19:20<johh>de rien
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19:20<CoCo>Tu parle français ??
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19:23<CoCo>Qui qui es français ici ?
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19:31<zhaotongxue>hello,world
19:32<zhaotongxue>I type not very fast
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19:33<CoCo>not serious
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20:32<giltoon>hi
20:32<stderr>Hi.
20:34<giltoon>it works only when I type the command 'source /root/.bashrc'
20:34<giltoon>what could be the reason?
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20:39<giltoon>?
20:39<giltoon>i mean
20:39<giltoon>i set aliases
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20:39<giltoon>but they are not activated automatically when starting new shell
20:40<giltoon>what should i look at?'
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20:44<stderr>How do you start the new shell? Is it a login or non-login shell?
20:45<giltoon>it's ssh
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20:47<giltoon>so login shell
20:47<stderr>Do you have a .ssh/config?
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20:49<stderr>Do you have a .bash_profile, .bash_login or .profile?
20:49<giltoon>'locate ssh/config' not returning any result
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20:50<stderr>I meant ~/.ssh/config
20:50<giltoon>no i don't have such a file
20:51<stderr>How about /root/.bash_profile, /root/.bash_login or /root/.profile?
20:52<giltoon>no. I don't have those 3 files
20:52<giltoon>that's a minimal installation of debian6 64 bit
20:52<giltoon>on a VPS
20:53<stderr>Ok, for login shells .profile is read. That file then checks if .bashrc exists and sources it, if it does.
20:53<stderr>But .bashrc isn't read directly for login shells.
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20:53<giltoon>so can I create it?
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20:54<stderr>It's odd that you don't already have a /root/.profile, but if you don't you can create it.
20:54<giltoon>how should i fill it? any sample?
20:55<stderr>My /root/.profile: http://paste.debian.net/23944/
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20:58<giltoon>thank you so much @stderr
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20:58<giltoon>that worked
20:58<stderr>No problem.
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22:25<bros402>Quick question - upgrading my VPS from Debian 6 to 7, just changed all instances of squeeze to wheezy in sources.list. I did apt-get update. Should I do apt-get upgrade or just do apt-get dist-ugprade?
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22:36<dfell>is there a set of power tools that will hibernate the computer beyond the hibernate package?
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22:38<dfell>i'm also unimpressed with the hibernate speed and which is saves itself is there an alternate hibernate package set?
22:39<dfell>g
22:39<Supaplex>dfell: did it run faster any other way? what's different?
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22:40<dfell>previously I had an install of debian with LXDE
22:40<Supaplex>bros402: the release notes should have good info on that
22:40<dfell>it seemed to go pretty quickly
22:40<dfell>now i've set it up just openbox
22:41<Supaplex>dfell: how much memory is in use? what's the list of installed packages? same hardware?
22:41<dfell>with what I want installed as options. i'm getting an error hibernate:warning Tuxonice binary signature file not found
22:41<dfell>am about to google that
22:41<dfell>i won't like i'm pretty happy with this install. the previous idled around 67
22:41<dfell>mb of ram
22:41<Supaplex>ok. yeah, no actual ideas here. just things to compare.
22:41<dfell>this one is around 54-60
22:42<Supaplex>different kernels?
22:42<dfell>my initial trial was with this client open, my browser, and a terminal
22:42<dfell>shouldn't be a different kernel
22:43<dfell>same install just no desktop enviro this time, all installed after and specific
22:43<Supaplex>humm.
22:43<dfell>it may be me. the hibernate time may be the same and im just hoping that it would have been faster now that this thing is totally barebones
22:44<dfell>was just curious if there was an alternate set of power tools available
22:44<dfell>similar to the way that there are multiple options for network management
22:45<dfell>it's worth the time waited the same way that I think chrome is worth the extra RAM used
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22:45<dfell><3 me some debian though
22:46<dfell>best distro ive tried (archlinux, mint, lubuntu, ubuntu, puppy)
22:46<dfell>tho i kno ubuntu is debian based
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22:46<dfell>the winner for me with archlinux vs debian was the package manager
22:47<dfell>aptitude > pacman
22:47<dfell>well that and the amount of packages available
22:47<dfell>practically exponentially more
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22:49<dfell>welllll.... anyone with a suggestion on a better hibernate than the hibernate pac?
22:51<dfell>then i guess i'll do some googling but probably stick with it
22:51<dfell>night 'everyone
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23:28<bros402>So now i've hit such a fun issue - I am upgrading from squeeze to wheezy. Did apt-get update & upgrade, Changed all instances of squeeze to wheezy, did apt-get update followed by apt-get install apt dpkg aptitute and now part way through that, it's been stuck on Restarting web server: apache2. for the past 20 minutes.
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23:30<bros402>I can back out of it by ctrl+a, then d and stuff is working, apache is running, etc.
23:30<bros402>Ctrl+c isn't working to kill the restarting web server stuff in the screen, though
23:30<Supaplex>any combo of ^c, ^z, ^\ ?
23:31<bros402>Let's see
23:33<bros402>ctrl+z stops it
23:33<Supaplex>this is bad. I think I made an oops with LVM. http://paste.debian.net/23950/ Odd that pvresize didn't warn/complain the first time. How do I make sure this will be okay?
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23:33<Supaplex>bros402: ps, then bg, then check with ps, top etc. or kill.
23:34<bros402>ps
23:34<bros402> PID TTY TIME CMD
23:34<bros402> 4323 pts/1 00:00:00 bash
23:34<bros402> 4749 pts/1 00:00:08 apt-get
23:34<bros402>29908 pts/1 00:00:00 ps
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23:35<bros402>woops
23:35<bros402>ps shows apt-get running
23:35<bros402>bg shows [1]+ apt-get install apt dpkg aptitude &
23:36<child>someone already tried to use openvz inside kvm machine??
23:36<child>is it possible?
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23:41<Supaplex>humm, I pvresize alone and i think I'll backup a few important items right ... now. ^.^
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