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#debian IRC Logs for 2013-09-12

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00:04<vortek>i found one, virtuallbox :)
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01:37<dstegs>join #
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02:44<inno-jado>morning
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02:47<manojkumar>hi
02:47<manojkumar>hws u
02:48<manojkumar>anybody there
02:48<manojkumar>i want need same help
02:48<manojkumar>?
02:49<jm_>!tell manojkumar -about ask
02:50<manojkumar>helllo
02:50<manojkumar>i want access my network through run command
02:51<manojkumar>lilke \\192.168.....
02:51<manojkumar>cn u tell me
02:51<manojkumar>how it possible
02:51<manojkumar>>
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02:58<Infiltrator>By waiting for more than two minutes?
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03:29<Argure>quick question, where do I configure tls_require_ciphers in exim4 on wheezy? :)
03:29<Argure>for the life of me I can't find it
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05:04<frabala>hello!
05:04<frabala>Could anyone tell me
05:04<frabala>which is the right channel to get some help
05:04<frabala>for my internet connection?
05:04<Stummi>depends on your problem
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05:05<frabala>I'm connected by wireless and i want to change to wired
05:05<Stummi>frabala, if you have problems setting up an internet connection with your OS, ask your OS support chan. If you have problems with the connection itself, ask your ISP
05:06<frabala>debian is my OS, and this is the debian channel, right?
05:06<Stummi>yes
05:06<frabala>so, i ask here?
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05:07<Stummi>yes
05:07<jm_>configure the wired device then and you should be set
05:07<Stummi>frabala, so, what have you tried and whats the problem?
05:07-!-gudjon [~quassel@static-213-115-50-133.sme.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #debian
05:07<Stummi>(also, what do you use for configuring your network? network-manager, wicd?)
05:08<frabala>so, my problem is that i cant connect by wire
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05:08<frabala>i user network-manager
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05:08<frabala>i can c/p my configuration from /etc/network/interfaces
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05:09<frabala># This file describes the network interfaces available on your system
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05:09<frabala># and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).
05:09<frabala># The loopback network interface
05:09<frabala>auto lo
05:09<frabala>iface lo inet loopback
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05:10<jm_>don't paste here, use a pastebin (/msg dpkg paste)
05:10<frabala>ok, i got it :P
05:10<Stummi>frabala, also, "can't connect" is not a useful problem description
05:12<frabala>ok, i have connected the ethernet wire from my computer to the router and i have tried to configure the network interface
05:12<jm_>also include 'netstat -nr' output with your paste
05:12<frabala>so when i restart network-manager
05:13<frabala>it says
05:13<frabala>cannot find device eth0
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05:14<jm_>ls /sys/class/net
05:14<frabala>netstat -nr gives
05:14<jm_>again, ust a pastebin
05:15<Stummi>ifconfig -a
05:15<frabala>yeah, wait a minute please
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05:18<frabala>http://pastebin.com/FYhbhEYD
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05:20<peter1138>Two wlan devices but no ethernet.
05:20<frabala>yes
05:20<Stummi>frabala, which ethernet card do you have on your machine?
05:20<frabala>i can see this with lspci, right?
05:21<Stummi>you should
05:22<frabala>http://pastebin.com/TUW2XrDe
05:22<Stummi>or, if you have a notebook or so, in the specs
05:22<frabala>no, it's desktop
05:23<frabala>is it like it does not recognise my ethernet card? or do i get it wrong?
05:24<peter1138>Do a full lspci, not filtered.
05:24<frabala>because atheros is the wireless card and it is the inly it sees
05:24<frabala>ok
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05:25<frabala>http://pastebin.com/xMWaVTrk
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05:29<txt-file>Do you have disabled your nic in the bios?
05:29<frabala>i dunno
05:29<frabala>i guess i have to reboot to see my bios now...?
05:30<txt-file>this is the only explanation I see why lspci does not list a ethernet-card
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05:31<frabala>ok, i go see and if the problem continues i'll be back.
05:32<frabala>thank for your interest!
05:32<txt-file>sure
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07:08<serendipitous>I am trying to build a kernel module for the kernel that I'm running but make seems to exit cleanly (it returns 0) without building anything. I'm following the guidelines given in /usr/src/linux-source-3.2/Documentation/kbuild/modules.txt
07:09<abrotman>probably want a pastebin of the build error
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07:12<jm_>he's trying to build MTD modules which are disabled on non-x86 kernels by the look of it
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07:13<serendipitous>abrotman: http://pastebin.com/PbPsEkXB
07:14<serendipitous>jm_: Yep, that's correct. What do you mean by disabled? Will I be unable to build the modules if powerpc is the target architecture?
07:15<jm_>serendipitous: I don't know - I'm just saying they are not available in several non-x86 kernel packages I looked at yesterday - grep MTD /boot/config-*
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07:16<jm_>serendipitous: on a quick glance I found no evidence that stuff is x86 specific, but I didn't look too hard
07:17<serendipitous>jm_: I haven't found anything to indicate that they are x86 specific either, but surely if I followed the instructions in modules.txt and set the mtd directory as the target then the modules would build, no?
07:17<jm_>serendipitous: not if it's disabled in kernel config :)
07:17<serendipitous>Ah...
07:17<jm_>hence my grep command to verify
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07:20<serendipitous>jm_: I've just added CONFIG_MTD=y to $KERNEL_SRC/.config but the module still won't build; the output is the same as the pastebin given above
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07:21<serendipitous>I also tried CONFIG_MTD=m (assuming that tristate variables might have to be set to indicate a module is required)
07:21<jm_>serendipitous: don't do that, restore the file, then use kernel's config editing targets (i.e. make menuconfig/nconfig/...)
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07:22<serendipitous>jm_: Ok, sure.
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07:25<EmleyMoor>I'm trying to build Epson's "iscan" package for wheezy amd64, but the tests fail, so the package is not built.
07:26<serendipitous>jm_: I've just gone through the options in `make menuconfig` and ensured that MTD is selected to be built as a kernel module but I still get the same output as the pastebin...
07:26<serendipitous>I've been running `make clean` in between tests BTW
07:27<jm_>serendipitous: MTD is a section, did you also enable specific modules in it?
07:27<EmleyMoor>http://paste.debian.net/38838/ is the problem output when I try to build iscan
07:28<jm_>surely you could patch makefile to not run tests if needed
07:29<EmleyMoor>jm_: Maybe I could... but maybe it's actually telling me there's a problem
07:29<serendipitous>jm_: Yeah I enabled most of the modules under the MTD section.
07:30<serendipitous>jm_: I've got a pastebin of my .config (post `make menuconfig`): http://pastebin.com/ERXfbvmN
07:31<jm_>EmleyMoor: wait, are you talking about building a src deb?
07:32<serendipitous>The output of `uname -a` on this box seems to be a bit strange FWIW. It's: "Linux titanium 3.2.0-4-powerpc #1 Debian 3.2.41-2+deb7u2 ppc GNU/Linux
07:32<EmleyMoor>jm_: No... building a deb from vendor supplied source
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07:32<serendipitous>I've not seen two different kernel versions in the output from `uname -a` before :P
07:33<EmleyMoor>serendipitous: Quite normal on Debian
07:33<EmleyMoor>3.2.0-4-powerpc is the Debian package version
07:33<EmleyMoor>3.2.41 etc... is the actual kernel version
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07:34<EmleyMoor>Linux topdeck 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.46-1+deb7u1 x86_64 GNU/Linux
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07:36<abrotman>abi vs source version
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07:39<EmleyMoor>Hmmm... looks like there might be a ready-build
07:39<serendipitous>EmleyMoor: Ok, thanks. The kernel headers would only have to match the ABI version for the kernel then, not the source version?
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07:40<serendipitous>EmleyMoor: So in my case, would linux-headers-3.2.0-4-powerpc would be appropriate?
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07:40<EmleyMoor>serendipitous: Yes
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07:41<jm_>serendipitous: did you try taking the ful src tree and building that?
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07:45<serendipitous>jm_: I've got /usr/src/linux-source-3.2/ which AFAIK is the full kernel source tree
07:45<serendipitous>installed/downloaded through apt-get
07:46<serendipitous>jm_: I was trying to avoid building the kernel fully as the computer which I am using is rather old and slow
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08:11<udo>hello i need help with wlan
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08:12<Walex>udo: ask specific questions...
08:13<udo>after netinstall of squeeze over eth0 i like to enable wlan too
08:13<udo>i have a dell 17rse with an intel centrino N2230 Adapter
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08:14<udo>my researches say iwlwifi would be appropiate , but i cant find a deb package
08:14<udo>and im not sure what else is missing for wlan
08:14<mshuler>firmware-iwlwifi - you need non-free in your sources.list
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08:15<udo>i have som non-free in my sources
08:15<mshuler>some?
08:15<micronux>apt-get install firmware-linux-nonfree
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08:16<micronux>u also can wget than dpkg
08:17<mshuler>not sure if there's anything relevant firmware-linux-nonfree, micronux, but there might
08:17<mshuler>and never get updates? that's not a great suggestion
08:17<mshuler>if you are going to install pacakges, use the package management system
08:18<udo>firmware-linux-nonfree_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb is installed
08:18<udo>before firmware-iwlwifi was already installed
08:19<udo>so there seems to be a difference between firmware-iwlwifi and firmware-linux-nonfree ( which of course contains more drivers ... )
08:19<udo>what do i have to do next ?
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08:20<micronux>u can try,and install another firmware one by once time
08:21<mshuler>udo: if firmware-iwlwifi was already installed, you might look for firmware lines in /var/log/syslog - see if it's loading ok - 'ifconfig -a' should show the device, if it's working right
08:21<mshuler>micronux: that's silly
08:22<mshuler>installing random software isn't an answer to fix a problem - it's a random guess
08:22<micronux>aha,u r right
08:22<udo>iwconfig gives me no wireless extensions
08:22<udo>ifconfig gives me eth0 , lo, pan0
08:22<mshuler>huh.
08:23<udo>i dont know what pan0 is, but it is not wireless
08:23<peter1138>It's bluetooth.
08:23<udo>ok, thx peter
08:23<mshuler>anything about it in syslog? 'grep wlan0 /var/log/syslog'
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08:23<mshuler>or just wlan
08:24<udo>no
08:24<udo>should i restart ?
08:24<udo>netwwork restart
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08:24<udo>after installinng firmware-linux-nonfree
08:24<mshuler>possibly - is there a hardware switch on the box that needs to be turned on, perhaps?
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08:25<mshuler>if you haven't rebooted since installing firmware-iwlwifi, yeah, but I thought you said that was already installed
08:25<udo>uhm
08:25<udo>in windows wlan is always on
08:25<udo>and with mint (nadia) its also ok
08:25<udo>worked out of the box
08:26<mshuler>the question needs to be asked :)
08:26<mshuler>is it plugged in?
08:26<mshuler>hehe
08:26<udo>what plugged in ?
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08:27<mshuler>sorry, another example of a sometimes necessary question
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08:27<udo>you mean my wlan-cable , hehe
08:28<newbie>modem) and other connected at LAN
08:28<mshuler>if it is enabled via the hardware switch, enabled in BIOS, firmware is installed - the kernel should see the device and give you log entries in /var/log/syslog on boot - reboot sure couldn't hurt at this point
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08:29<newbie>hello all! I have a problem with Debian and IPTables: I have a machine running Samba and with 2 ETH interfaces: one to Internet, other to LAN. But My samba stopped working!
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08:31<txt-file>newbie: stopped working is not really helpfull
08:31<newbie>This is my iptables: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/18c31e38/
08:31<Dmitry>we need logs! moar logs!
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08:32<newbie>txt-file, Dmitry : these are all my iptables rules, what I'm doing wrong? I think it's routing out my samba packages too.....
08:32<newbie>http://paste.debian.net/hidden/18c31e38/
08:33<txt-file>does it work when iptables accepts everything?
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08:36<newbie>txt-file : I forgot: I have squid here too, and squid and forwarding to internet are working correctily
08:37<mshuler>newbie: disregarding squid, does samba work when you disable all rules? run the first two lines of your script manually.
08:38<newbie>txt-file : but since I've attached squid and the port forwarding, samba stopped...
08:38<newbie>mshuler : let me check...
08:39<mshuler>oh, so more good details emerge :)
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08:40<mshuler>so, does that mean you added the last line to a working iptables ruleset? I'm trying to understand "this is what I changed, which resulted in....."
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08:43<mshuler>by the way, newbie, you can also log every single thing in iptables, if you want to really debug it
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08:55<udo>ok, im back, checked everything, tried again on win7 and mint, there wlan is ok, on squeeze i cant find anything in /var/log/syslog
08:55<udo>so waht now ?
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09:00<txt-file>udo: please pastebin the output of "lspci"
09:00<devil_>udo: even though it might not help, please install rfkill and run it by issueing_: rfkill list wlan
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09:07<newbie>mshuler, txt-file : eh... :-S was deny/allow rulles at smb.conf after IP change.... I don't saw the smb logs before :-S
09:07<newbie>mshuler, txt-file : thanks for all
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09:09<udo2>hello
09:09<udo2>how do i paste with pastebinit ?
09:09<udo2>it says the api is disabled ...
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09:12<udo2>http://pastebin.com/RbwCXaLp
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09:14<devil_>udo2: this might help: http://www.backtrack-linux.org/forums/showthread.php?t=54302
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09:32<udo2>devil_ thx, i tried it already with manually copying to /lib/firmware but it did not work for me
09:33<udo2>maybe im missing some other packages except for the driver
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09:34<devil_>udo2: did you pick the right firmware foryour card (maybe you have to look at lspci -nn to find the right one)
09:34<devil_>http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/iwlwifi/?n=downloads
09:35<mshuler>when I 'apt-cache search iwlagn' I get only firmware-iwlwifi which notes iwlagn in the long description
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09:35<udo2>i got the right one, its the same they are talking about in backtrack link
09:35<mshuler>and 'sudo modinfo iwlagn' gives me nothing
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09:40<udo2>http://pastebin.com/tQ8jeY7g is the output of my sudo modinfo iwlagn
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09:41<mshuler>oh - udo2 is that a squeeze box? load it!
09:41<mshuler>'modprobe -r iwlagn ; modprobe iwlagn'
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09:41<udo2>i miss there somethinng about iwlwifi-2030-6.ucode
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09:42<udo2>mshuler, yes this is squeeze
09:43<mshuler>udo2: the output of loading the module gives you an error about iwlwifi-2030-6.ucode ?
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09:43<udo2>no
09:44<mshuler>please explain: "i miss there somethinng about iwlwifi-2030-6.ucode"
09:44<udo2>no error but the 2030-6.ucode is the one i copied manually to /lib/firmware
09:44<udo2>what does iwlagn do ?
09:45<udo2>why are there the other iwlwifi and not the 2030-6 too ?
09:45<mshuler>it's the driver for your card, I think, according to the backtrack post
09:46<mshuler>udo2: that may have been added in a later version of firmware-iwlwifi - I have it installed in testing
09:46<mshuler>firmware-iwlwifi is an arch:all, no dependency package - you could install the latest one without issues, I would bet
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09:46<mshuler>it's just firmware blobs
09:47<themill>the particular kernel module still needs to want to load that blob
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09:48<mshuler>udo2: there is a squeeze-backports that includes it http://packages.debian.org/squeeze-backports/firmware-iwlwifi
09:48<udo2>well, i dont know how to proceed. On an inspiron 6400 the same squeeze and wlan works there fine, of course there is a different hardware
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09:49<udo2>mshuler, how do i install this ?
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09:49<udo2>take the tar and copy alos manually the ucode files to /lib/firmware ?
09:50<mshuler>there is also a 3.2 linux-image in squeeze-backports
09:50<mshuler>!squeeze backports
09:50<dpkg>Selected packages intended for the "Wheezy" (7.x) release of Debian but recompiled for use with "Squeeze" (6.0) can be found in the "squeeze-backports" repository. A suitable line for your sources.list is «deb http://http.debian.net/debian-backports/ squeeze-backports main». Also ask me about <bdo>.
09:51<mshuler>you would, of course, need to add "contrib non-free" to the backports line
09:52<themill>I missed the "why don't you just use wheezy" conversation...
09:52<mshuler>I just discovered he was using squeeze by the modinfo paste, but good point :)
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09:53<udo2>themill, that will be next, i have on the same box squeeze and wheezy installed. On wheezy there is also no wlan
09:53<mshuler>udo2: do you have ethernet?
09:54<udo2>mshuler, of course, blut only lan, and i have another machine where im logged in here in the chat as udo ;)
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09:54<udo2>now something else, how can i stop the touchpad ? It disturbs while typing ..
09:55<mshuler>udo2: you could just use wheezy and install firmware-iwlwifi on there ;)
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09:55<ixi>udo2 depending on your touchpad driver it might have an option to disable tap to click
09:56<ixi>some touchpads have that... others that don't have a normal driver and are forced to use psmouse driver unfortunately don't have it
09:56<udo2>in mint i stopped it manually with sudo modprobe -r psmouse
09:56<udo2>but dont know if this is the "right way"
09:56<ixi>you can do the same
09:57<ixi>it's the last resort way
09:57<ixi>again, it really depends on your touchpad model
09:57<udo2>yes it works here too, but maybe there are also other ways
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09:58<mosso>!de
09:58<dpkg>Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de).
09:58<mosso>dpkg: aptitude
09:58<dpkg>well, aptitude is a terminal-based package manager that can be used in a command-line mode (aptitude install foo ; aptitude remove goo) as well as a text user interface mode (just run "aptitude"). Ask me about <why aptitude> <why not aptitude> <aptitude-fu> <aptitude docs> or see http://wiki.debian.org/Aptitude or http://tinyurl.com/3g4d4d9.
09:59<mshuler>mosso: please, /msg the bot
09:59<mosso>mshuler: sorry !
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10:34<blackheart>hello i have a problem when i go to extensions.gnome.com and install any extension slider moves to on and install prompt comes but extension is not install please help me!
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10:41<meta_system>hi here
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10:42<meta_system>need some help about linux-sound-base package
10:42<meta_system>I don't find it on jessie install
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10:43<meta_system>it seems not exists on wheezy
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10:44<meta_system>reboot
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10:47<xen>hello i have debian 7.1 when i install any gnome extension it just asks me to install but nothing gets installed please help
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12:02<eko>i wanna sleep
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12:08<hjke123>If anyone here knows what is wrong I would love some help: http://askubuntu.com/questions/344729/bootmgr-is-missing-error-when-trying-to-boot-from-windows-xp-usb
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12:09<Guest6452>hi
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12:28<jack18>Buonasera a tutti,
12:28<jack18>Ragazzi, ho un piccolo dilemma, su un server con debian montato sopra, dovrei fare in modo che si ripeta un comando ogni 5 minuti
12:29<babilen>dpkg: it
12:29<dpkg>Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help.
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12:37<hassani>he
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12:37<hassani>slt tou le monde
12:38<retrospectacus>!fr
12:38<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr.
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12:59<udo>hello
13:00<udo>how can i add some icons in wheezy to the left board
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13:09<musca>udo: in gnome-shell? select your icon by right click, then "add to favorites"
13:09<udo>musca in wheezy
13:09<udo>with gnome
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13:09<udo>with gnome3
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13:10<udo>on the left there is a panel or something if you go with mouse to Activity
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13:11<musca>yes, the something is called "Favorites"
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13:27<dadsminecraft>hello, I ama linux noob trying to set-up a minecraft server for someone, I need to enable or create ssh for them to be able to properley start and stop the server, I have xubuntu installed with Openssh and the required dependencies also
13:28<retrospectacus>!ubuntuirc dadsminecraft
13:28<dpkg>dadsminecraft: This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server chat.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://chat.freenode.net/ubuntu
13:30<dadsminecraft>shows how noob I am I thought xubuntu was just debian with a desktop
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13:34<ro>Hello, I've just installed Debian and I don't really like how it looks, the part where it says "Activities" and the fact that I have to click in there and how the menu looks
13:34<ro>Do I have to change the desktop environment?
13:35<ro>I would like to have a traditional look, like in Linux Mint
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13:36<retrospectacus>ro: xfce4 is your best bet, or cinnamon if you have jessie
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13:38<ro>the default is Gnome, right?
13:38<mtn>ro: by the way you don't need to click on
13:38<retrospectacus>ro: you seems to have gnome. I would hesitate to call it "the default" as you can install anything you want at any time, or nothing
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13:39<mtn>Ativities, just hit the super key (windows)
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13:39<mtn>ro: gnome is the default unless you choose something else :)
13:39<ro>mtn: the fact that bothers me isn't to click or not to click, is that i don't have a traditional menu like in Mint or Winbugs
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13:40<mtn>ro: sure, lots of choices out there
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13:40<mtn>ro: use what you want
13:40<ro>retrospectacus: will try to install xfc, thank you
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13:41<ro>isn't it possible to change just how "Activities" looks like?
13:41<mtn>ro: nope
13:41<bernat>ro: you can install extensions for gnome shell that give you the menus that you want
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13:41<dadsminecraft>sur that figure, the xubuntu challen is a bunch of no spkie bots it seems
13:41<bernat>ro: go to http://extensions.gnome.org and choose what you want
13:42<retrospectacus>dadsminecraft: if you want help here, install debian
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13:42<bernat>ro: gnome-shell is completly customizable through the extensions provided there
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13:43<ro>bernat: thank you very much
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13:43<bernat>ro: np
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13:49<DNS>lol http://www.organicdesign.co.nz/files/thumb/8/8b/Bad_Windows_and_Ubuntu.svg/100px-Bad_Windows_and_Ubuntu.svg.png
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14:01<udo>how can i add/make an icon for xkill in wheezy/gnome3
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14:07<retrospectacus>udo: alacarte
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14:11<udo>retrospectacus , thx
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14:57<r3n3r0>hi all
14:58<r3n3r0>I need to disable the screensaver...I can't find any option about it in GUI...thanks in advance
14:58<devil_>r3n3r0: what gui?
14:59<r3n3r0>as GUI I mean the graphics
14:59<r3n3r0>I use Debian 7.1 Wheezy
14:59<devil_>with gnome?
14:59<r3n3r0>I've just downloaded
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15:01<devil_>is it gnome, kde, xfce?
15:01<r3n3r0>gnome
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15:01<devil_>well, I do not know gnome, but you could remove it with: apt-get purge gnome-screensaver
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15:01<r3n3r0>ok ...I try
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16:06<Rylai>Quick question - I compiled and installed vim myself, how would I add it as a new option for editor in update-alternatives?
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16:08<retrospectacus>Rylai: update-alternatives --install ...
16:09<Rylai>I see, thank you
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16:24<babilen>Rylai: Out of curiosity: Why'd you do that?
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16:24<Rylai>babilen, to compile in cscope, ruby, python, python3 support
16:24-!-melmothX [~melmoth@13-87.dsl.iskon.hr] has quit [Quit: #]
16:25<babilen>Rylai: apart from python3 you get all those with the standard Debian packages and it would be easy to change these settings in there too.
16:26<babilen>dpkg: tell Rylai -about package recompile
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16:26<babilen>What do you need python3 for? (can't say I've ever needed it so far)
16:27<retrospectacus>Rylai: the way you've done it, now dpkg/apt doesn't know the accurate state of your system and may behave strangly/undesirably
16:27<Rylai>babilen, powerline/ycm
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16:27<babilen>Rylai: ta!
16:28<Rylai>...ta?
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16:29<babilen>Rylai: http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/ta
16:29<Rylai>hm, i see
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16:30<babilen>Rylai: You might also want to file a bug (wishlist) against vim and ask for inclusion of this.
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16:31<amoe>Hi, I'm trying to install a system without shadow passwords (to test a bug, it's in a VM), but after I install I can't log in at all, I enter a correct password but the prompt says it is incorrect. Installing with shadow passwords works fine.
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16:39<ro>Hello, I've installed XFCE following the official guide and when I uninstalled gnome, wi fi stopped working
16:39<ro>I have already installed wicd, reinstalled firmware-realtek
16:39<ro>And nothing works
16:39<ro>I don't find any Wi-fi networks
16:39<babilen>the pleasures of wicd :)
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16:40<ro>But now, it seems that iwlist scan, works
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16:41<mshuler>are both wicd and network-manager installed?
16:42<ro>wicd is installed, and seems like network manager too
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16:44<ro>Never mind, solved my problem
16:44<ro>Wireless interface name was not set
16:44<ro>I can't be so stupid
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16:48<ro>another silly question: after making the connecion, a local nameserver was added to /etc/resolv.conf
16:48<ro>is there any problem with deleting it?
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16:48<retrospectacus>you probably want at least one nameserver
16:49<retrospectacus>and it will probably be added back later. is it a problem?
16:49<diederik>if I want to create 2 partitions with parted, should the start of the next partition be the value of end of the previous partition or value +1?
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16:51<diederik>example: end partition1 = 4000, should partition2 start at 4000 or 4001?
16:51<retrospectacus>4001
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16:51<diederik>thanks
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16:52<ro>retrospectacus: I have two nameservers added, but the local isn't working very well
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16:53<mshuler>!override dns
16:53<dpkg>To instruct dhclient to use your specified nameserver rather than the one given to you by your DHCP server, echo "supersede domain-name-servers a.b.c.d, e.f.g.h;" >> /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf, or see man 5 dhclient.conf for more information. Instead of supersede, you can also use "prepend" or "append" to add nameservers. Or remove domain-name-servers (etc.) from dhclient.conf if you prefer.
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17:10<amoe>what package should installer bugs be reported on?
17:11<retrospectacus>debian-installer
17:11<amoe>thanks retrospectacus
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17:13<Xylon>I'm suprised this channel doesn't get overloaded with people since debian xchat package is configured to connect to it by default
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17:14<Ryccardo>it's not in autojoin servers as of the latest Sid version, just the first one in the list :)
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17:15<diederik>retrospectacus: apparently parted is clever enough to guess what I want: http://paste.debian.net/39108/
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17:17<retrospectacus>hmm
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17:18<diederik>or parted is not clever at all and I'm screwed LOL
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17:21<mshuler>I would guess that it's setting the partitions on cylinder boundaries, as close as it can to the requested start/end, no?
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17:22<EmleyMoor>xsane makes a "far too bright" exposure setting when scanning slides. iscan (by Epson) makes a better job. Is there anything I can do to improve xsane?
17:22<diederik>mshuler: I believe the setting is for optimal performance
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17:23<retrospectacus>I've always used fdisk. Seems odd to me to see the boundaries in MB
17:23<mshuler>same here ^
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17:24<diederik>you can use various units with parted. I started learning parted since it understands GPT and fdisk not afaik
17:24<SamB>diederik: I thought cylinders had been essentially meaningless for a decade or so
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17:24<Ryccardo>diederik: just use gdisk :)
17:24<mshuler>SamB: could be - that was my guess :)
17:25<diederik>SamB: I think you're right; thinking in cylinders isn't natural for me, therefor I went with MB
17:25<SamB>mshuler: oh, I'm not saying it's not doing that
17:26<SamB>which is "it", anyway?
17:27<SamB>parted is probably modern enough to know better than to bother with cylinder boundaries
17:27<diederik>Ryccardo: yep gdisk would probably work too, but I already learned parted and seems to do what I want :)
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17:28<Ryccardo>I prefer gdisk as parted takes some assumptions I want control over (like alignment blocks and some other things)
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18:36<xen>hello
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18:37<retrospectacus>hi, xen
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18:43<maxbit89>hy
18:43<gianluca_>hola!
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18:47<maxbit89>can some one help me with a question about i2c drivers? i would like to use a PCA9552 LED driver is that driver some wher avail able for wheezy?
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18:57<xen>anyone can help me in installing gnome 3 plugins m getting this error in xsession
18:57<xen> JS ERROR: !!! Exception was: GLib.SpawnError: Failed to execute child process "unzip"
18:57<gsimmons>maxbit89: The PCA9552 is supported by the Linux kernel's PCA955x LED driver (leds-pca955x.ko module) since Linux 2.6.27.
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18:59<retrospectacus>xen: you need to install unzip
18:59<babilen>xen: You might want to make sure that "unzip" is installed and in your PATH
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19:00<xen>ok trying thanx
19:01<xen>it works :D
19:01<xen>thanx a tonn
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19:06<wijnen>I've been trying several video-chat programs, but so far I haven't found one that reliably works. In fact, since recently, none at all works anymore. Does any of you have advice on what works best? Free software only, please; I don't want Skype on my machine.
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19:13<maxbit89>gsimmons thanks seems that it works =)
19:13<babilen>wijnen: https://jitsi.org/
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19:14<wijnen>babilen: I got that one as well, but it didn't properly handle the NAT on one side of the connection.
19:14<babilen>judd: checkbackport jitsi
19:14<judd>Backporting package jitsi in sid→wheezy/i386: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: libbcpkix-java.
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19:14<babilen>wijnen: yeah, that is something that you might run into frequently
19:14<wijnen>I'm running sid, so I can just get it from there. :-)
19:14<wijnen>I hoped to get around it by running asterisk, but so far that didn't help.
19:15<babilen>wijnen: Ah, you should say that as we have an extra channel for testing/unstable (#debian-next) and people will typically assume that you use stable if you ask here.
19:15<wijnen>Oh ok, sorry.
19:15<ckosloff>I am having problems enabling virtual hosting, a2ensite throws error site not found, however site is there
19:15<wijnen>Well, the other side is running stable, so it's still half-true. :-)
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19:16<babilen>wijnen: Well, that was the best alternative I can think of. Ekiga is definitely worth a look too, but I haven't tried it in a while. Pidgin did some XMPP video chat, but I can't really say much about that either.
19:16<babilen>wijnen: yeah, no worries. (i simply wanted to make you aware or it) :)
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19:16<wijnen>Empathy is the only one that sometimes worked half (I could see the other side, but they couldn't see me), but that stopped working entirely with a recent upgrade.
19:17<wijnen>(except for the text-based part then).
19:17<babilen>yeah, that too
19:17<babilen>not sure if there are others ... :-/
19:17<wijnen>I thought it might help to set up a vpn, but that doesn't seem as easy as I'd like it to be either.
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20:10<chungy>hello, I'm having an issue with schroot. I'm using zfsonlinux, and as a security measure, I made home filesystems under my chroots with exec=off. I'm using a wheezy chroot to basically shield against potential attacks in minecraft... looking like this http://pastebin.com/KtFY5cMb
20:11<chungy>but my issue when I do "schroot -c wheezy" for example, the descendent /home filesystems don't appear to be mounted, and I'm wondering how I can resolve that
20:11<chungy>it looks like it might be doing a chroot to /var/lib/schroot/... instead of the /chroot/wheezy directly
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20:41<wookey>I just installed postgresql (9.1, wheezy), and usr/share/doc/postgresql-9.1/README.Debian.gz tells me that I can use sudo -u postgres sh to get an admin shell
20:41<wookey>but that gives "No passwd entry for user 'postgres' "
20:41<wookey>what am I doing wrong?
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20:42<abrotman>wookey: is sudo configured on your system?
20:42<wookey>this prevent dbconfig-common setting up a postgres database too - same whinge
20:42<wookey>yes
20:42<abrotman>wookey: if not, use 'su' to become root, then "su - postgres"
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20:43<wookey>as root, su - postgres says "No passwd entry for user 'postgres'"
20:44<dondelelcaro>wookey: the postgres user is supposed to be created when postgresql-common is installed
20:44<wookey>getent passwd postgres shows nothing, so I guess that's my problem
20:44<wookey>dondelelcaro: right, that doesn;t seem to have happened
20:44<abrotman>wookey: is postgresql-common installed?
20:44<dondelelcaro>presumably reinstalling postgresql-common will fix that up
20:45<wookey>ah -cpommon is not installed
20:45<wookey>is that expected after 'apt-get install postgresql'?
20:45<dondelelcaro>uh... how did you get postgresql-9.1 installed without postgresql-common?
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20:46<wookey>aha - by typing in an xterm on the wrong machine. Doh!
20:47<wookey>apaologies for the dumb questions
20:47<wookey>so I'l just remove postgres from that box and install it on this box. Should work a lot better...
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22:23<twb>What's the right way to enable wheezy backports, but only allow kernels from there?
22:23<twb>(I always screw up pinning when I try to do it myself)
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22:24<sney>I would probably just set default-release
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22:25<twb>Ah, cool
22:26<twb>That's how I do testing/unstable hybrids, didn't think it would work for stable/backports
22:27<twb>That works, thanks
22:29<twb>Oh cool, "Required firmware files may be missing" -- I've never seen that before.
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22:38<themill>twb, sney: backports.d.o is already automatically pinned down; nothing to do.
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22:38<twb>Oh, even better.
22:39<twb>Although the behaviour *is* different when I set Default-Release
22:39<themill>(and default-release plays really really badly with wheezy vs wheezy-updates vs wheezy-proposed-updates)
22:39<twb>um, tzdata also tries to upgrade if I don't set it
22:39<twb>themill: OK, I'll remove default-release
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22:40<themill>,v tzdata
22:40<judd>Package: tzdata on i386 -- squeeze: 2012g-0squeeze1; squeeze-updates: 2012g-0squeeze1; squeeze-proposed-updates: 2013c-0squeeze1; wheezy: 2013c-0wheezy1; wheezy-proposed-updates: 2013d-0wheezy1; wheezy-updates: 2013d-0wheezy1; jessie: 2013d-1; sid: 2013d-1
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22:40<themill>twb: that's because tzdata is trying to update from either w-p-u or w-u there and setting default-release is preventing that. That's nothing to do with backports
22:41<twb>OK, cool.
22:42<twb>So I don't do stable very often -- does this look sensible (and no Default-Release)? http://paste.debian.net/39228/
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22:45<themill>yeah, should be fine. Look at the output of "apt-cache policy" if in doubt
22:46<twb>It was more if I missed anything super good
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