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#debian IRC Logs for 2013-09-16

---Logopened Mon Sep 16 00:00:11 2013
---Daychanged Mon Sep 16 2013
00:00<topcyde>not that i find hi the most reliable source on a lot of things but he far out classes me on windows config info.
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00:43<Sekkite>Thanks mshuler
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00:43<Sekkite>And yeah - requires a signature by Microsoft for all OS's on the hardware.
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05:14<amoe>is there any GUI DVD ripper in the wheezy archive?
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05:19<slush>amoe: handbrake
05:20<amoe>slush: it seems to be in experimental, but not in wheezy
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05:25<slush>amoe: oh, I thought it was in wheezy too, sorry
05:25<stderr>judd: v handbrake
05:25<judd>Package: handbrake on i386 -- experimental: 0.9.8+dfsg2+git0b44ec-2; wheezy-multimedia: 0.9.8+git20121007-dmo6; jessie-multimedia: 0.9.9-dmo4; sid-multimedia: 0.9.9-dmo4
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05:25<stderr>Seems you just need the right repository.
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05:30<amoe>I was wondering if there was any in the main wheezy archive, I don't want to use the dmo repositories...
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05:33<stderr>amoe: Probably a good call.
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06:00<no-one>what can i install to get a 'display' such as what gui apps need to start? i think xorg does it, but i am looking for a general term (i am almost sure there are other packages which do that)
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06:03<jm_>no-one: xorg
06:04<SynrG>no-one: what's your exact problem? you've installed a base system but have no desktop? are you trying for something minimal or do you just want the standard desktop experience?
06:05<SynrG>and yes, xorg is the most important component. but usually also a window manager at the very least, and most users opt for a complete desktop environment
06:05<no-one>yes, no desktop, trying something minimal
06:06<SynrG>i see.
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06:07<SynrG>how minimal is minimal enough? :)
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06:09<SynrG>the xorg metapackage will pull in a bunch of video drivers, for example. for an example of a very stripped-down hardware-specific minimal xorg environment, see (although i think this is dated ... should say xserver-xorg-input-evdev, not -kbd and -mouse): https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/Software/DesktopEnvironment
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06:10<SynrG>of course, -synaptics and -intel are specifically for the Eee. you would include whatever is appropriate for your hardware.
06:11<SynrG>those instructions were targetted at very low-end devices (the smallest Eee is the "2G Surf" which has a 2G SSD and 512M RAM soldered onto the mainboard, non-expandable)
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07:30<Argure>hi,
07:30<Argure>I'm having issues with the netinst when installing the grub bootloader
07:31<Argure>my situation is as follows: http://i.imgur.com/mkMUUxj.png
07:31<Argure>hardware RAID-1, a 4 GB ext2 /boot, and the rest is used for dm-crypt
07:32<Argure>in LVM, it has a 4 GB swap and the rest is used for ext4 with / as mount point
07:32<Argure>for some reason, grub2-install throws that it cannot install to /dev/sda
07:33<maxy>Argure: grub2 needs some free space in the drive after the partition table and the first partition
07:34<jm_>try finding its installation log or install it manually and check if it provides more info
07:34<peter1138>vg snowden, heh
07:35<Argure>I didn't choose the naming scheme. :P
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07:36<Argure>maxy: how much free space?
07:36<Argure>there is 1.0 MB by default
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07:36<Argure>I wonder if it's breaking on the guid partition table, though I can't think of a reason for that to happen
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07:38<maxy>Argure: Ok, I wasn't checking the screenshot. You added partitions to the md0 device?
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07:38<jm_>arch wiki says GRUB requires a 1007 KiB BIOS Boot Partition (EF02 type code in gdisk and bios_grub flag in GNU Parted) in BIOS systems to embed its core.img file due to lack of post-MBR embed gap in GPT disks. Runtime GPT support in GRUB is provided by the part_gpt module.
07:39<Argure>maxy: I added them to "RAID1 device #126 - 250.1 GB Linux Software RAID Array"
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07:40<maxy>Argure: I'm not sure grub supports reading partition tables from a raid device
07:40<maxy>Argure: You might want to have the boot partition in a simple raid1 with no partitions
07:41<Argure>what do you mean? :)
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07:42<asyd>hello guys. I have an issue with gnutls with nslcd. I try to defined which SSL/TLS ciphers to used, but when I gdb on nslcd, I can see the gnutls_priority_set doesn't have the same value than ldapsearch, using the same ciphers
07:43<Argure>also
07:43<Argure>is it an idea to use LILO rather than GRUB for what i'm trying to do?
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07:43<Argure>(which is, set up full disk encryption for a server with hardware RAID-1)
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07:45<maxy>Argure: Ah, hardware raid. Why does it say Linux Software RAID Array. Mmh.
07:45<Argure>yeah, that confused me as well
07:45<Argure>let me screenshot the raid configuration from the ipmi console
07:45<maxy>Ok, anyway, you need to to have the /boot partition in something grub can reach.
07:46<Argure>raid setup: http://i.imgur.com/XYJs0An.png
07:47<Argure>maxy: if you don't mind me asking... where would that be? :P
07:47<asyd>http://paste.debian.net/41117/
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07:48<jm_>"hardware" raid :)
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07:50<maxy>Argure: What happends if you try to install grub in the raid device directly?
07:50<Argure>it never gave me the option
07:50<Argure>it just went straight to try and installing to /dev/sda1
07:50<gry>[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~/t
07:50<gry>sorry
07:52<maxy>asyd: What's the issue?
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07:52<asyd>maxy: gnutls_priority_set doesn't have the same value, while I give the same cipher suite
07:53<asyd>the ldapsearch is working, in starttls, but nslcd is not able to talk to the ldap server, due to a cipher mismatch
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07:57<maxy>Argure: Ok, you may need a grub rescue to boot your system. In the debian installer, you can go to a console, mount dev proc and sys in /target, chroot to it and fix whatever it's not been done by the installer.
07:58<Argure>maxy: I don't have a system atm, I just reverted everything to blank to try again
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08:04<maxy>asyd: The parameters for gnutls_priority_set are two pointers, so you are only checking that 2 different programs are using wildly different memory locations, which is quite expected.
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08:07<Argure>maxy: okay, so apparently it's not hardware raid
08:07<Argure>despite the project manager telling me it is
08:07<Argure>but I've been ok'ed to just drop the raid and mount the 500 GB disk on /backup
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08:09<asyd>maxy: maybe it's not a "code" bug, it's at least a documentation bug, since nslcd refers to "your TLS implementation"
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08:13<maxy>asyd: It might be anything, but the gdb trace you posted is of no use.
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08:14<maxy>asyd: You might want to check the content of the pointers, which will require to understand the inner representation of struct gnutls_session_int and struct gnutls_priority_st
08:15<asyd>yeah indeed, sorry long time i didn't practice C/gdb, how I can inspect the content of priority, I even not able to find the definition in gnutls source
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08:15<maxy>You can check /usr/include/gnutls/gnutls.h
08:17<maxy>Anyway, if your goal is more in the sysadmin area, you might want to chek it from a different perspective, adding verbosity to your logs, or checking if wireshark can tell whats going on.
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08:17<asyd>well, I'm on cscope, it's more complex than I thought indeed
08:17<asyd>maxy: already did
08:17<asyd>it's a symetric algorithm negociation failed
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08:18<maxy>Using dh?
08:18<asyd>ok, I have more useful info with gdb
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08:19<jm_>if gdb knows about the struct you can simply say print *foo
08:20<asyd>yeah just was discovered :) thanks
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08:22<asyd>ok so gnutls_priority_set is not the issue, grr
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08:31<bullgard4>When installing Debian using a "7.0 wheezy multi-arch install DVD", I inadvertently entered a wrong hostname. Can I edit offhand the contents of the file /etc/hostname, or what flanking measures should I take yet?
08:31<vlt>bullgard4: edit and reboot is the easiest way.
08:31<jm_>don't forget to edit /etc/hosts too
08:32<vlt>bullgard4: Maybe you should have a look at /etc/hosts
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08:32<bullgard4>vlt, jm_: Thank you for your help.
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08:40<maasdoel>Hi anyone know if it is possible to install/update a few non-internet machines by copying my iso files into one directory/share (portable drive) I dont want to go to each machine and swap disks all day?
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08:45<prahal>maasdoel: I guess so , would look after losetup and mount -o loop and/or mount -t iso9660 alike
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08:49<maasdoel>Thanks prahal, yes I have done that, so far I have needed One DIR connected to ONE iso, this means mounting 11 dvd each time(could script that), I would like to put all the files in on 'location' and mount that only ?
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08:55<bullgard4>Using a "7.0 wheezy multi-arch install DVD" I installed Debian wheezy on a new computer. I have now Internet access, and I do not need this DVD for fetching new packages. Still, when trying to fetch new packages, my wheezy asks me for inserting the DVD. This annoys me now. How can I get rid of this asking?
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08:56<babilen>bullgard4: Edit your /etc/apt/sources.list to your wishes and update
08:56<babilen>dpkg: tell bullgard4 -about wheezy sources.list
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09:02<HasePino>I powered on my debian machine, and I have a new block device, which I didn't explicitly create. The blkid command shows its TYPE as DM_snapshot_cow
09:02<prahal>maasdoel: one way I would go about such issue : mkdir main/ ; cp -a <each_dvd> main/<sudir_bound_to_dvd>; make an archive out of the main/ (tar gz or else). prepare an apt sources.list conf ; . For each box , extract the archive, copy the apt sources.list conf to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/dvdset.list . Then as usual : apt-get update
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09:05<HasePino>Are there debian scripts which might make a dm snapshot?
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09:06<prahal>maasdoel: have you looked into apt-offline ?
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09:08<maasdoel>prahal: No will lookit up right now
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09:13<bullgard4>babilen: My file sources.list has now the 3 required lines of text mutatis mutandis. I deleted the lines of text containing references to my DVD-ROM. - Thank you. - I am now trying to follow the rest recommendations of the dpkg bot.
09:13<maasdoel>prahal: Looks like this will do it. Will investigate further but a possible problem is that I would need an update dir/file per machine, which duplicate downloads
09:14<babilen>bullgard4: Great, enjoy!
09:14<bullgard4>!dpkg <deb-src>
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09:15<bullgard4>dpkg <deb-src>
09:15<dpkg>bugger all, i dunno, bullgard4
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09:21<babilen>bullgard4: Try "/msg dpkg deb-src" -- you don't need < and >
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10:33<pmo>ah not as dead as i have heard
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10:34<pmo>got banned from the freenode support channel for some guys personal issues :/
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10:35<babilen>pmo: I don't think that discussing that in this channel is particularly appropriate. Do you require help with anything in particular?
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10:36<pmo>was just wondering if there was a way to be unbanned there, should i need help or help others in the future
10:36<pmo>but the issue i had i have solved
10:37<sney>#debian bans typically expire
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10:37<pmo>all of a sudden there was a package installed on my debian installs that i didnt install, but i traced it back and removed the package that now includes the packages that popped up
10:37<babilen>pmo: You can appeal bans in #debian-ops of the respective network. This channel is really not the right venue for this discussion.
10:37<pmo>im banned from there
10:37<pmo>but its ok
10:38<pmo>just surpised to be removed from such a channel for personal reasons hehe
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10:38<pmo>i will just idle here instead
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10:39<Daniel_>Hi, I get "E: Unable to locate package php5-ssh2" when trying to run "sudo apt-get install php5-ssh2".
10:39<Daniel_>I got apache installed. :/
10:40<sney>that doesn't seem to be a real package
10:40<themill>Daniel_: there's a libssh2-php -- is that what you're after?
10:40<pmo>yea that packages isent in the repo
10:40<pmo>-s
10:41<babilen>pmo: Either way, this is not the right channel for this discussion. If you think that a particular operator made a wrong decision you are welcome to gather information about that and present it in this network's #debian-ops - /msg me if you need/require a different method for appealing this.
10:41<babilen>EOM
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10:45<Daniel_>themill, sney: Hmm, "libssh2-php" did exist and I installed it but it didn't solve my problem unfortunately. The error message I get when using a php script that's gonna connect via ssh to boot up a SA-MP (GTA San Andreas server) is "Sorry, but you don't have php5-ssh2 installed."
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10:45<Daniel_>It's most probably a custom error message, but I guess the creator failed with it.
10:46<XReaper>might need pecl?
10:46<Daniel_>I get the error message when visiting the page (index.php). So it's not an error message that shows up in putty.
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10:47<sney>Daniel_: google says this. http://forum.sa-mp.com/showthread.php?t=243793
10:47<Daniel_>XReaper, do you mean perl?
10:48<supaman>dotdeb.org provides this package
10:48<supaman>but its unofficial
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10:49<xk>alright guys.
10:49<xk>don't be retarded.
10:49<xk>I just want simple answers, alright? so yeah.
10:49<Daniel_>sney, supaman: I'm gonna go with the guide sney found and hope that it helps, but thanks to all of you.
10:49<xk>does debian wheezy come with unity by default?
10:49<xk>daniel_: concentrate.
10:49<sney>xk: no.
10:49<xk>and sney, supaman: this goes for you too.
10:49<xk>sney, CONCENTRATE.
10:49<sney>,v unity
10:49<judd>No package named 'unity' was found in i386.
10:49<xk>oh.
10:49<sney>ain't there
10:50<xk>sney, is debian wheezy eye-appealing?
10:50<xk>I am gonna download Debian in a few seconds.
10:50<sney>debian gives you a wide range of choices for your desktop, so you can make it as appealing or not as you please
10:50<xk>but now I am thinkin'
10:50<xk>should I go for a debian-based distro or debian myself?
10:50<xk>i heard debian wheezy is pathetic
10:50<themill>xk: any desktop is as "eye appealing" as you configure it to be.
10:50<xk>debian itself*
10:50<sney>if you don't change any installer settings you'll get a pretty standard gnome-shell
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10:50<xk>what is a gnome-shell?
10:50<xk>terminal?
10:51<sney>aka gnome 3
10:51<xk>does gnome use more resources than xfce?
10:51<xk>I just, like distros that are low on resources, and are lightning fast, and visually-appealing at the same time.
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10:52<xk>anything?
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10:52<sney>well, gnome 3 was fine and usable on my 2008-era laptop, it's fairly efficient
10:52<sney>this stuff is all pretty subjective though
10:53<xk>I got 4GB ram.
10:53<xk>can I run GNOME and my distro still be fast?
10:54<sney>should be fine, yes
10:54<sney>kde also an option and all the others
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10:54<XReaper>Daniel_: ah, php-pear
10:54<XReaper>:p
10:54<xk>no.
10:54<xk>not kde.
10:55<xk>sney, I will try out gnome.
10:55<xk>does debian has a gnome-version?
10:55<sney>a what?
10:56<xen>@xk yes it does have
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10:57<xk>which distro uses the most lightest resources? like just 70-80 RAM usage.
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10:58<mtn>xk: distrowatch is a good place to check out different distros
10:58<themill>xk: the distro isn't using anything -- it's whatever you choose to run that's important here. Just like the last couple of times you've been here, you're asking questions that don't really have answers.
10:59<mtn>ah, a repeat offender
10:59<xk>mtn: are you telling me to check all distros one by one, like...there are over 1,000 distros, I mean.
11:00<mtn>xk: why do you expect us to do it for you? we don't know what you want.
11:00<xk>mtn: did I told you to do it for me? yes? no?
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11:00<mtn>xk: bye bye
11:00<sney>xk: he is pointing out for you - you can answer these questions for yourself better than anyone else can. you clearly have very specific standards for what you want, that's cool. so experiment and learn. we can only tell you so much
11:00<xk>I just want a light distro, which is amazingly fast, and uses light resources.
11:00<xk>alright, sney.
11:01<xk>is elementaryos based on debian?
11:01<sney>I have no idea, I use debian, not anything based on it
11:01<sney> if you use a distro that is based on debian, you can't get help for it here
11:01<xen>@xk try crunchbang
11:01<xk>xen, I tried crunchbang, i find it horrible.
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11:02<themill>xk, xen: this is #debian. This channel is about debian not every other derivative you would like to name.
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11:02<Daniel_>What may be the cause of this when trying to run ./configure on libssh2: "checking for OpenSSL... configure: error: Cannot find OpenSSL's libcrypto"?
11:03<xk>If I install Debian, like once I have installed Debian on my system, I would like to add GRSECURITY + PaX, is this possible?
11:03<Daniel_>Tried running "sudo apt-get install libssl-dev" as I found a possible solution when searching on Google, but no success.
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11:03<sney>!grsecurity
11:03<dpkg>grsecurity is a patch set to enhance Linux kernel security: provides an ACL system, auditing capabilities and institutes measures to prevent common system exploits. Packaged for Debian as linux-patch-grsecurity2, read /usr/share/doc/linux-patch-grsecurity2/README.Debian to apply. http://www.grsecurity.net/ #grsecurity on irc.oftc.net, ##grsecurity on irc.freenode.net.
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11:04<supaman>Daniel_: did the libssl-dev package not install for you?
11:05<supaman>Daniel_: or did it install but your still getting the error?
11:05<xen>themill: sorry , xk: want something of 70,80 mb use command line /debian with xmonad /don't expect to get all eye candy in 1kb of ram its not possible !
11:06<xk>xen, I did not understand? which command?
11:06<xk>sney, does debian have a grsecurity+pax-hardened kernel?
11:06<xk>like, do they have a other version for that?
11:06<sney>!search
11:06<dpkg>Please search for things rather than just asking, e.g. «apt-cache search regex», or with <aptitude search>. The following ways can locate packages that own a file (installed, or candidate for install): «dpkg -S /bin/foo», <apt-file>, <pdo> (online) and «/msg judd help file» (bot). <search dpkg> for factoids. See http://wiki.debian.org/WhereIsIt and ask me about <bot help>. See also <axi-search> <debtags> <dlocate>.
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11:07<Daniel_>supaman: Seems like I already had it installed.
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11:10<supaman>Daniel_: try pulling in all the build dependence packages for normal libssh2 by issuing aptitude build-dep libssh2
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11:13<Daniel_>Executed the command. Still getting "checking for OpenSSL... configure: error: Cannot find OpenSSL's libcrypto". :/
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11:13<Daniel_>supaman^
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11:14<Daniel_>I still get the error when running ./configure för I meant.
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11:14<Daniel_>*for libssh2-0.14
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11:15<supaman>Daniel_: do you have libcrypto1.0.0-udeb installed? (dpkg -s libcrypto1.0.0-udeb)
11:15<supaman>I am guessing that is the lib it is looking for
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11:17<sney>probably not
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11:18<supaman>ahh, its probably libssl1.0.0
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11:25<Daniel_>supaman, sney: "E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'libcrypto1.0.0-udeb'".
11:25<Daniel_>supaman, sney: Also got "libssl1.0.0 is already the newest version.".
11:25<supaman>Daniel_: sorry, that was my bad, the libcrypto is obsolete
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11:27<Daniel_>supaman: Is libssh2-0.14 obselete too then?
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11:29<supaman>Daniel_: Daniel_ uhm, that seems to be version 0.14, they have version 1.4.3 out now
11:29<Daniel_>Haha, ouch.
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11:29<supaman>the page your following is from 2011, version numbers are a bit outdated
11:30<supaman>try wget http://www.libssh2.org/download/libssh2-1.4.3.tar.gz instead
11:31<babilen>judd: v libssh2-1
11:31<judd>Package: libssh2-1 on i386 -- squeeze: 1.2.6-1; wheezy: 1.4.2-1.1; jessie: 1.4.3-1; sid: 1.4.3-1
11:31<babilen>Daniel_: ^^
11:32<babilen>Daniel_: (there, naturally, is a corresponding -dev package too)
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11:38<supaman>Daniel_: on my machine it was enough for me to install the libssh2-1-dev and libssh2-php and I got ssh2 support in my php
11:40<Daniel_>supaman: The new version of libssh2 solved the problem.
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11:41<supaman>ok, good :-)
11:41<Daniel_>supaman, sney, babilen: Thank you all for the help and your patience with a newbie like me. :)
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11:42<babilen>Daniel_: new version?
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11:43<Daniel_>babilen: libssh2-1.4.3 instead of libssh2-0.14. :)
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11:44<babilen>Daniel_: You should *really* just try to install libssh2-1-dev and libssh2-php -- I would strongly advice against compiling that manually, but *iff* you do then read <usrlocal>, <stow> and <stow usage> (/msg dpkg stow)
11:44<babilen>Daniel_: Compiling and installing manually is most likely not needed ..
11:44<babilen>judd: v libssh2-1-dev
11:44<judd>Package: libssh2-1-dev on i386 -- squeeze: 1.2.6-1; wheezy: 1.4.2-1.1; jessie: 1.4.3-1; sid: 1.4.3-1
11:45<babilen>Daniel_: As you can see ^^^ wheezy ships version 1.4.2 of that library which I'm sure is new enough.
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11:45<babilen>Anyway, I'm off now and wish you all the best. :)
11:45*babilen waves
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11:46<nmeum>does anybody know a decent cli torrent client that is still being developed?
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11:48<supaman>nmeum: havnt tried it but bittornado is cli
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11:49<supaman>nmeum: deluge-console also
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11:51<supaman>unworkable also
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11:53<nmeum>supaman: thanks, deluge-console looks pretty good
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11:56<randomdude>hey guys, got some problems with my sound. the onboard card of my mainboard is some "usb audio", i can find it with lsusb, but i cant get it to work with ALSA. halp
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12:07<Daniel_>Having issues finding "AuthUserFiles" for proftpd. Want to add a user that only got access via FTP, not SSH.
12:07<Daniel_>Don't know if it's me that's dumb or what, but according to this:
12:07<Daniel_>http://www.proftpd.org/docs/howto/AuthFiles.html
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12:08<Daniel_>the file is suppose to be iin /etc/passwd.
12:08<Daniel_>But I fail to find it. :/
12:08<Daniel_>Can't even find the passwd diretory tbh.
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12:10<Daniel_>This is what I find in /etc/: http://paste.debian.net/41246/
12:10<Daniel_>Wait, I think I just found it...haha.
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12:11<Daniel_>Sorry guys, found it. :3
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12:20<Daniel_>Gah, damn. Does anyone know how to make a new FTP-user properly? username:password:uid:gid:gecos:/root:/bin/bash into the passwd file? How does it know that it's for FTP-only access?
12:23<weasel>you don't edit /etc/passwd. ever. unless you know what you're doing.
12:23<weasel>adduser adds new users to /etc/Ppasswd,shadow}
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12:25<retrospectacus>Daniel_: use "adduser" and set his shell to /bin/false
12:25<retrospectacus>man adduser
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12:26<retrospectacus>also it depends somewhat on what ftp server software you are using
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12:27<retrospectacus>and yes, *never* edit passwd (or shadow, or group) with your editor... if you really really need to, use the vipw command
12:28<Daniel_>retrospectacus: proftpd is the software that I'm using. Should I type "adduser username:password:uid:gid:gecos:/root:/bin/false"?
12:29<retrospectacus>no
12:29<retrospectacus>type "man adduser"
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12:36<Daniel_>retrospectacus: I get this when running it http://paste.debian.net/41249/
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12:37<retrospectacus>Daniel_: yes, that is the manual for adduser.
12:37<retrospectacus>would you like me to read it to you?
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12:48<Daniel_>retrospectacus: Sorry. but I'm having a hard time understanding the syntax.
12:48<Daniel_>And yes, I'm trying to understand it by reading the manual.
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12:52<retrospectacus>Daniel_: well it's "adduser [options] username"
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12:52<retrospectacus>you want to specify the --shell option as I said before, and I don't know what else
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14:06<kishan>hi
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14:06<kishan>anyone here/
14:06<kishan>?
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14:07<sney>nobody here but us chickens
14:07<sney>!ask
14:07<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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14:27<nfisher>HI all! i have the problem that my wheezy system selects seemingly arbitrarily the standard soundcard for output on boot. I have 2 Soundcards in my box (1 on board, which i dismiss and the other SB5.1). Now how can i arrange it, that the system always chooses the SB card as default output?
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14:31<retrospectacus>nfisher: disable the onboard one in your BIOS
14:32<nfisher>retrospectacus, yeah i did that, it wouldnt work
14:32<nfisher>for whatever reason
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14:54<Kettu>There is a graphics card problem with a lot of the larger macs
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14:55<Kettu>Trying to get Kodak printer to work in Linux - no luck!
14:55<Kettu>Any suggestions?
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14:57<devil>k-man_: maybe someone can help if you are motre elaborate
14:57<devil>more
14:59<devil>sorry k-man_ , he left
15:00<PociPHP>byez
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15:06<ady>hi guys
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15:07<retrospectacus>ady: hi
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15:07<ady>well.. so what is this ?? .. people just join and go
15:08<retrospectacus>ady: Debian support. If you have a debian question, just ask. If you just want to chat, go to #moocows
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15:08<dex>hi, i'm trying to open a video from a web that needs windows media plugin and when I select vlc to open it, vlc can not open it. is there other program or sth i can use to play the video??
15:10<mshuler>I've honestly never had a media file that vlc could not open..
15:11<retrospectacus>dex: what is the filename extension
15:11<mshuler>dex is this something public? got a url?
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15:14<dex>«mms://media.xanthi.ilsp.gr/filog_videos/chap5.wmv».
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15:14<dex>that's the file that vlc has to open
15:14<twizel>hello every1
15:14<dex>it belongs to a website
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15:15<twizel>i'm having trouble verifying my debian iso d/l
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15:15<retrospectacus>twizel: ... go on?
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15:16<twizel>i've been all over the debian site. i have the signature files and the SHA256 file, but i can't seem to connect to the keyserver to verify the sig file
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15:17<retrospectacus>dex: All I got is "connection timeout"
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15:18<dex>i can see them in windows, but i prefer debian
15:19<retrospectacus>this may help
15:19<retrospectacus>!wmv
15:19<dpkg>Windows Media Video (WMV) is a partially reverse-engineered proprietary video format by Microsoft. Support under Debian (without using <non-free> software) is limited. If `strings -n19 foo.wmv` returns a URL, the file is <DRM>-protected. See also <libavcodec>, <w32codecs>. http://wiki.debian.org/WindowsMediaVideo
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15:22<dex>there no string order
15:23<sakax>retrospectacus, is vlc not able to perfectly play wmv ?
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15:23<retrospectacus>I don't have vlc
15:24<dex>i thought so, maybe mplayer?
15:24<retrospectacus>but it should, esp. with the <w32codecs>
15:25<sakax>https://www.videolan.org/vlc/features.html
15:25<sakax>wmv is supported by vlc
15:25<retrospectacus>dex: "there no string order" ... is meaningless
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15:26<dex>ok, is there a way to download the video? maybe with wget??
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15:27<sakax>Media > Open Network stream
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15:27<sakax>just copy address and it should play
15:28<sakax>i tried to search some wmv file to test but i did not find any on first sight
15:28<sakax>good thing this format is dying :)
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15:29<dex>sakax do you mean in vlc? I can not find open network stream
15:30<sakax>yes in vlc
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15:30<sakax>https://archive.org/download/Windows7WildlifeSampleVideo/Wildlife.wmv
15:30<sakax>this wmv sample is perfectly playing with vlc for me
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15:32<dex>yeah it works great for me too
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15:34<dex>i don't know if mms://media.xanthi.ilsp.gr/filog_videos/chap5.wmv is the direction
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15:34<retrospectacus>"vlc mms://media.xanthi.ilsp.gr/filog_videos/chap5.wmv" or "mplayer mms://media.xanthi.ilsp.gr/filog_videos/chap5.wmv" on the cli should both work
15:34<retrospectacus>though I got connection timeout
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15:35<dex>it says:[0x7fd39c009c78] access_mms access error: failed to open a connection (tcp)
15:36<dex>i have run it in the console
15:36<dex>[0x7fd39c009c78] access_mms access error: cannot connect to server
15:36<AlexeyHenke>hi all, is anybody have experience to installing Oracle on "wheezy"? If yes, give me some document about it please (sorry for my English)
15:37<AlexeyHenke>i mean Oracle-XE..
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15:39<retrospectacus>dex: then it is a bad url or the server is down or so, it would seem
15:39<tmarble>is it possible to use a webcam in a schroot (mounting udev does not seem to work)?
15:39<mshuler>AlexeyHenke: searching google for "install oracle-xe on debian" provides some documents
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15:41<sakax>de
15:41<sakax>dex, it's bad url or connection
15:41<sakax>see output http://paste.debian.net/41343/
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15:44<AlexeyHenke>mshuler: I found some, but the information from it doesn't work ... ok i'll continue search. Thank You..
15:45<mshuler>AlexeyHenke: one of the pages was https://wiki.debian.org/DataBase/Oracle - if something isn't correct, you can edit the document for the next person to find :)
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15:46<AlexeyHenke>mshuler: I will :) Thank You ...
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16:10<dex>i am able to see them in windows, so i think the connection or the url is ok
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16:15<dex>that is the same error that i get
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20:02<torguy>hello, are there chanel logs kept?
20:03<torguy>i need to find out a command i used, and its not showing up in history
20:03<retrospectacus>!irclog
20:03<dpkg>[irclog] #debian on <freenode> is logged at http://ibot.rikers.org/%23debian/ , #debian on <OFTC> is logged at http://thegrebs.com/irc/
20:04<torguy>ok
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20:05<MGHacker>alquem brasileiro ae
20:05<retrospectacus>!br
20:05<dpkg>Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues.
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20:07<torguy>ty retrospectacus
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20:50<torguy>ok so my user doesnt have access to my x server and im pretty sure its because i ran this command " xhost +si:localuser:root
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21:02<Ylliane>Hi
21:02<Ylliane>bye
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21:27<john>anyone experienced with the PowerPC port?
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21:27<john>I'm in debianppc as well, but could use some help if anyone knows a thing or two
21:27<abrotman>you can just ask, or ask #debianppc
21:27<abrotman>I have a PPC, it rarely gets turned on
21:28<abrotman>(because it still hates my TV)
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21:28<john>I hear ya, I mostly wanted to get it running debian for the soul purpose of running PS3 media server
21:29<john>The disk ejects every time I attempt to boot into it
21:29<john>I've tried booting into the "OpenFirmware" and booting into the disk manually with no luck
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21:30<john>It is a Powermac G4 (M8570)
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21:31<john>Any suggestions?
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21:31<john>I don't believe it supports USB booting, and have no clue about a PXE option
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21:34<abrotman>the disk ejects?
21:34<abrotman>when you try to install?
21:34<john>When I attempt to boot into it
21:34<john>I hold c to get a boot menu
21:34<abrotman>is this a LiveCD? or the netinst?
21:34<john>netinst
21:35<abrotman>hrm, i installed mine from squeeze, but no problems
21:35<abrotman>i thnk squeeze
21:35<abrotman>i should probably turn it on and muck with it again
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21:36<john>I think it has something to do with yaboot but I haven't been able to find much documentation on my model mac
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21:38<abrotman>Mine is a Mini
21:38<john>mine is an old G4 tower, with mirrored disk drivers
21:39<abrotman>how did you prepare the CD? though seems like it shouldn't spit it out regardless
21:39<john>Burned it from windows using Alcohol 120
21:40<abrotman>which means nothing to me :)
21:40<john>I could burn it from this computer (debian) but I burn ISOs all the time without a problem
21:42<john>I'm actually on #! and love it
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21:49*abrotman wonders what #! is?
21:49<abrotman>john: have you ever booted another ISO with this system (besides the OSX installer)
21:51<themill>abrotman: one of the distros we don't support here ;)
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21:52<abrotman>oh
21:52*abrotman thought it was some newfangled webste modeled after /. :)
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21:56<john>abrotman: no, I haven't had to boot any other ISO with my old system
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21:56<john>themill: I wasn't asking for support with CrunchBang, I'm using the normal Debian 7 netinstall ISO. However, do you guys dislike CrunchBang?
21:57<abrotman>it's just not supported here
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22:00<john>What desktop environment do you prefer on? I tried LXDE and hated it.
22:00<nadir>I would try if booting works at all with any other iso. BSD for sure has ppc isos.
22:01<john>OpenBSD?
22:01<nadir>FreeBSD
22:01<nadir>ppc is just odd, but it might be a hardware failure, no?
22:02<john>Very well may be. If I had another disk drive that wasn't SATA I'd throw it in there to test it
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22:02<john>It boots just fine into it's MacOS partition
22:03<john>it's MacOS X 10.3.9
22:03<nadir>From what i have seen it ain't worth the trouble. Any pentium3 would beat the Mac i had.
22:03<john>I don't need it for workstation use
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22:04<john>I would use it simply for PS3 media server (with encoding turned off)
22:04<nadir>I read that above. Mhh... i think i still say what i said.
22:05<nadir>Here you find Pentium3's or 4's all the time. Hence i am biased :-)
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22:05<john>I have an old athlon x2 desktop
22:06<nadir>ah, Ubuntu had a ppc iso too. It is out of date, but to test booting it should suffice
22:06<john>I wanted to avoid Ubuntu
22:06<nadir>only to test
22:06<nadir>hardware
22:06<john>I was looking at Gentoo, but I might try freebsd
22:06<john>I hear ya, I'll download the ubuntu iso
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22:07<nadir>good luck and try to have fun :-)
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22:09<nadir>I am looking at an iptables howto and it speaks of /etc/sysconfig/iptables. I ain't got that file and 'locate iptables' doesn't help.
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22:14<blast007>nadir: https://wiki.debian.org/iptables
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22:15<nadir>thanks blast007, just looking at it.
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23:53<gabeapp>hi, my debian keeps freezing
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23:54<gabeapp>anyone??
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23:56<Infiltrator>!details
23:56<dpkg>If you want help on a topic, you HAVE to say more than "it doesn't work, help!" or else you'll get no help whatsoever. Give as many details as you can or else no one can give any suggestions. For most questions, you should at least give your arch (i386 for most people), your Debian <version>, and your kernel version. Give exact error messages where applicable.
23:58<senthilkumar>yes tell me
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