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#debian IRC Logs for 2013-10-08

---Logopened Tue Oct 08 00:00:53 2013
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00:11<bullgard4>nayeli: You can simply put your Debian question here. You do not need to greet everyone at the beginning as a courtesy.
00:12<redder>everytime i perform an action that has no result (like continue to push delete even after there i no more text to delete) my comp makes an annoying beep to tell me that the action is not allowed or has no result. how do i turn it off?
00:13<dpkg>To disable the bell: "xset b off" in X, "setterm -blength 0" in console. For some reason, bash beeps excessively when in emacs (default) mode; "set -o vi" puts it in vi editing mode, which doesn't beep on partial completions. In konsole, Settings->Bell->Visible Bell. See also <pcspkr>, <shell beep>, <metacity bell bug>.
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00:14<redder>haleluyah, thank you
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00:42<mdk>Not really a debian question but pertains to linux nonetheless. What do you need to edit in the grub.cfg to make it so that the menu will only show when holding right shift? Assuming you're using grub 2.xx.
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00:44<sney>on the debian end it doesn't matter because grub.cfg/menu.lst will get overwritten when you run update-grub, and that happens automatically when kernels are installed etc. so put your edits in /etc/grub.d
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00:45<mdk>Alright fair enough. I was kinda assuming that's what you'd edit.
00:45<mdk>Do you know what needs to be added or removed to achieve what I was saying?
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00:47<sney>I did once but I've since forgotten
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00:47<mdk>Fair enough. I thought I'd pop on IRC and see if anyone knew. Thanks Sney
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00:48<sney>quiet timeout or something like that
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00:49<SamB>mdk: they actually released 2.0?
00:49<SamB>,v grub2
00:49<judd>Package: grub2 on i386 -- squeeze: 1.98+20100804-14+squeeze1; jessie: 1.99-27+deb7u1; wheezy: 1.99-27+deb7u1; wheezy-proposed-updates: 1.99-27+deb7u2; sid: 2.00-19
00:50<SamB>oh, they did
00:50<SamB>well, 2.00, whatever
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01:29<x86_64>why doesn't debian channels stay on freenode?
01:30<x86_64>question is: why here?
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01:34<themill>dpkg: tell x86_64 about oftc move
01:35<themill>(it doesn't really matter what network, really)
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01:38<t0ke>Is there w way to encrypt a Debian installation? After it has been installed
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01:44<x86_64>t0ke: don't really know what you mean... Encrypt your home folder or what?
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01:45<t0ke>Yes, should have been more clear
01:45<t0ke>Just the home folder
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01:54<administrator>hello IRC
01:54<administrator>noob online
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02:22<rjsalts>so how do I make "at NOW + 20 minutes" work just before daylight savings kicks in?
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02:23<rjsalts>on Sunday I got this time doesn't exist when the swapover happened at 2am
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02:34<themill>rjsalts: if you use date to calculate the correct seconds since epoch for the timespec does that help?
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02:35<themill>(or even the correct time -- since date(1) can correctly do the now+20min calculation across DST boundaries
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04:05<sababa>what is the best way of keeping proprietary software like Skype or Acrobat Reader up to date? Would something break if I added canonical's repos?
04:07<towo^work>don't use ubuntu repos in debian!
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04:07<sababa>towo^work, ok, what should I do then?
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04:08<ixi>what do you need acrobat reader for ?
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04:08<ixi>and for skype there are officially-provided .deb files I think
04:08<sababa>ixi: I get pdf forms at work that only acrobat can handle properly :(
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04:09<babilen_>sababa: And please don't cross-post
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04:09<ixi>sababa see for skype
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04:10<babilen>That doesn't really keep it up-to-date, but it suffices to simply check once in a while. Guess one could automate this along the lines of flashplugin-nonfree.
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04:25<emaz>hi, can someone give me some answers regarding running debian as an openvz container, with udev to be more specific?
04:25<emaz>I'm just curious how it works, I've read so much diffrent facts it's confusing
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04:26<emaz>some says udev will not work in container, some says it will
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04:26<emaz>just need to clear it up a bit :P
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04:38<babilen>emaz: Don't, OpenVZ is horribly outdated, deprecated and has been removed from Debian
04:38<babilen>dpkg: tell emaz -about openvz
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04:42<dpkg>x86_64, why are you lO_oking at me like that?
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04:48<azyr>on Debian wheezy and later multiarch is supported, does that mean that all the libraries and include files are supposed to be prefixed by a directory with the corresponding architecture, like x86_64-linux-gnu?
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04:54<emaz>babilen: I'm already running it, I'm just asking because I wanted to clear things up.
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04:56<emaz>just to be clear: I'm not running it as host system, I have a VPS with debian 7.1 installed. Is that setup also deprecated?
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05:19<x86_64>lol wut?
05:19<x86_64>lpseds: 'sup
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05:21<x86_64>can you people say 'hai' and not quit just for a second?
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05:22<themill>x86_64: I don't think any people who need that advice are here.
05:23<x86_64>dcraig: okay, this time, don't quit.
05:23<dcraig>you're not the boss of me
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06:01<dupondje>Hi. I have 'net.netfilter.nf_conntrack_max=100000' set in my sysctl.conf. But it doesn't get loaded at bootime. It gives error 'could not stat ...'
06:01<dupondje>any idea's?
06:01<dupondje>sysctl -p /etc/sysctl.conf works fine
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06:09<jm_>dupondje: who says that?
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06:10<dupondje>jm_: procps I guess, message goes quite fast @ boot :)
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06:12<dupondje>emaz: dmesg doesn't show that output
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06:14<jm_>dupondje: check bootlog
06:14<jm_>dupondje: and if needed enable verbose mode in /etc/default/rcS
06:15<dpkg>bootlogd is used to record boot messages to /var/log/boot. For Debian 7 "Wheezy" and later releases, install the bootlogd package to enable. In Debian 6.0 "Squeeze", bootlogd is provided by the sysvinit-utils package; set BOOTLOGD_ENABLE=Yes in /etc/default/bootlogd to enable.
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06:17<dupondje>Tue Oct 8 12:17:11 2013: [....] Setting kernel variables ...sysctl: cannot stat /proc/sys/net/netfilter/nf_conntrack_max: No such file or directory
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06:19<Celelibi>I submitted a bug for grub-efi-amd64 several weeks ago in which I fogot to put a real mail address (thus it was sent from root@debian).
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06:20<Celelibi>I still can't see it in the debian BTS.
06:20<jm_>that probably means iptables conntrack modules are loaded after it tries to set the values, try to compare timestamp of the error to when conntrack moduels are loaded
06:20<Celelibi>Should I send it again with a good sender address?
06:20<jm_>Celelibi: did you check your MTA logs?
06:21<Celelibi>Well, the system is not completely installed (indeed, I have a bug with grug :))
06:22<Celelibi>But I think reportbug would have told me if it couldn't send the mail, right?
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06:22<babilen>Celelibi: Is your local MTA configured and able to send mail? Are you rewriting headers? (so "From: root@debian" gets rewritten to a valid address?)
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06:22<Celelibi>I didn't configure anything.
06:22<jm_>not necessarily
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06:23<babilen>Celelibi: No, reportbug delivers the mail to the server you configured it to deliver to and everything that happens then is up to the server. You *can* configure reportbug to deliver directly to Debian and I prefer that configuration, but that is not the default.
06:23<Celelibi>actually just run reportbug from a chroot booted on the installation system.
06:24<Celelibi>I don't know what's the default configuration.
06:24<Celelibi>So maybe my bug was never sent.
06:24<babilen>Celelibi: Check your MTAs queue for undelivered messages (possibly frozen) and also your mail logs as suggested some time ago by jm_ ; If you want reportbug to deliver to Debian's server run "reportbug --configure" and don't specify an SMTP server to deliver to.
06:25<babilen>Celelibi: I am quite sure that the bug was never sent if the state of your mail system is what it appears to be.
06:27<Celelibi>Well, I don't think I even have an MTA installed.
06:27<babilen>Celelibi: You will as one is installed by default. Could you check its queue please? (the output of "exim -bp" on would be nice)
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06:28<Celelibi>No such command.
06:29<babilen>Celelibi: What does "ls -l /usr/sbin/exim" give you?
06:29<Celelibi>No such file or directory
06:30<jm_>or ls -l /usr/lib/sendmail
06:30<Celelibi>No such file or directory again
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06:30<jm_>no wonder it didn't work then
06:30<Celelibi>(when I say I didn't install an MTA :))
06:30<babilen>Celelibi: How did you install Debian? (as you really should have an mta)
06:32<Celelibi>Hum... I did a netinstall booted on PXE, preseed to be able to install through ssh, and finally installed in expert mode opting-out most options. :)
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06:33<SynrG>if you unchecked 'standard', that probably was not wise
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06:33<SynrG>it puts you in a bad way for support, as people are assumed to have standard. if you opt out, you live by the consequences
06:34<SynrG>you can install it after the fact with:
06:34<SynrG>tasksel install standard
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06:35<Celelibi>Well, in my bug report I asked for a backport for a bugfix in grub. As there are already many.
06:35<babilen>Celelibi: Either way: I think it is not too far fetched to assume that your bug report has not been submitted. And I would *strongly* recommend to install the standard task as, well, most people will assume that you have those packages/tools installed.
06:35<ixi>+1 ^
06:35<babilen>dpkg: tell Celelibi -about standard
06:35<Celelibi>It's just too bad I lost the revsion number of that patch I took time to find.
06:35<babilen>Celelibi: Shouldn't be too hard to install it now with aptitude.
06:36<babilen>Celelibi: reportbug might have saved your bug report somewhere, but I don't know where that might be from the top of my head. I am sure that it would be explained in its manpage or documentation.
06:37<Celelibi>what would install that standard thing?
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06:38<babilen>Celelibi: Check the message our bot sent you earlier. It contains an aptitude search expression that you can use with "aptitude install $SEARCH_TERMS"
06:39<SynrG>Celelibi: in the 'select packages' step of the install you are presented with a list of checkboxes for 'tasks'
06:39<SynrG>Celelibi: 'standard' is selected by default, and, if space allows, 'desktop'
06:39<Celelibi>Oh, I didn't see dpkg talk in pv.
06:39<SynrG>if you're on a laptop, 'laptop' should also be selected by default
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06:40<SynrG>by opting to do the 'expert' install, you may have missed these
06:40<SynrG>if you choose expert, you're expected to actually *be* an expert, i.e. know these things ...
06:40<SynrG>and address them accordingly
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06:42<Celelibi>It's neither a desktop nor a laptop, it's for a NAS server.
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06:46<babilen>Celelibi: you still want the standard task in most cases .. that's why its standard :)
06:46<Jester01>Hi! I have stopped udevd then happened to turn off the usb hub my mouse and keyboard are connected to. I have restarted udev and restored power, but X ignores the devices saying they are duplicates. I tried removing them via udevadm trigger but that didn't help. Any ideas apart from X restart?
06:46<Celelibi>And my bug report was in /var/tmp/grub-efi-amd64.bug
06:47<Celelibi>babilen: I saw what it contains, if I don't install that task I will probably end up installing all those packages.
06:47<Celelibi>except exim.
06:47<Celelibi>I don't need an MTA dammit. :p
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06:47<babilen>yes you do
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06:48<babilen>dpkg: tell Celelibi -about why a mta
06:48<Celelibi>what for?
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06:49<Celelibi>Yeah... cron... That's the exact reason I removed exim from one of my older computer.
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06:50<Celelibi>anyway, I'll configure reportbug and send this bug again.
06:51<babilen>I don't follow ...
06:52<babilen>Why is cron a reason to remove your MTA ? Seriously, think about it and evaluate your options. Having a working MTA is quite a reasonable assumption and I would think twice before violating that. What do you expect to gain from that?
06:52<babilen>But meh: It's your system and I have better things to do than arguing about this. Good luck!
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06:56<Celelibi>Truth is that I'm too lazy to configure and maintain a reasonable configuration of an MTA.
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06:56<Celelibi>And I dislike having tons of useless processes when I ps.
06:57<babilen>Sure, but don't expect other people to do more work simply because you are too lazy to run "dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config" or read "/msg dpkg nullmailer"
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06:59<Celelibi>Of course.
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07:02<SynrG>Celelibi: "tons of useless processes"? exim4 is just one process, and when not in use it stays out of the way
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07:03<Celelibi>Maybe I'll take time to look at it.
07:03<Celelibi>And exim is not the only useless process of that kind.
07:04<SynrG>it's about Debian-+ 7800 0.0 0.0 51620 308 ? Ss Sep17 0:01 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m
07:04<SynrG>oops, s/it's about//
07:04<Celelibi>dbus is another example of useless process.
07:04<SynrG>^^ RES 308 ...
07:04<Celelibi>(And I had a buggy behavior)
07:04<SynrG>doesn't seem too bad
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07:05<SynrG>so, don't install 'desktop'. that is fine
07:05<SynrG>standard won't include any of that stuff
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07:06<SynrG>standard has cmdline stuff, that is standard, not desktop stuff. that's what 'desktop' is for
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07:20<malinus>mshuler, SynrG, themill, retrospectacus: Thank you all for your help yesterday! I know I probably wasn't very good at explaining my problem, but with your help I succeeded nerveless.
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07:28<jm_>wow it took four people? :)
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07:44<malinus>jm_, well four people helped in. hehe
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07:46<petn-randall>jm_: His problem was that he was moving and needed people to haul his furniture to the new place.
07:47<petn-randall>Gee, that sofa was heavy.
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07:56<malinus>petn-randall, good analogy. The biggest problem was, that I sometimes made people haul the furniture into the wrong apartment.
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08:08<DNS>hm there are no guile 2.9 libs for arm in wheezy?
08:08<DNS>oops 2.0 I mean
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08:09<themill>,archs guile-2.0
08:09<judd>Package guile-2.0 in wheezy: amd64 (2.0.5+1-3), i386 (2.0.5+1-3), kfreebsd-amd64 (2.0.5+1-3), kfreebsd-i386 (2.0.5+1-3), mips (2.0.5+1-3), mipsel (2.0.5+1-3), powerpc (2.0.5+1-3), s390 (2.0.5+1-3), s390x (2.0.5+1-3), sparc (2.0.5+1-3)
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08:09<themill>DNS: it appears not -- the package tracking system may help explain why
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08:10<DNS>OK I will try to figure out
08:12<themill>it appears that it has only just started building on arm*
08:12<themill>tests were failing with segfaults
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08:17<DNS>themill: thx for info
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08:30<DNS>themill: hm there is a 2.0 for raspbian... which is armhf. so maybe they forgot to push it to debian upstream? ^_^
08:31<themill>you could always try recompiling their source package then
08:31<themill>DNS: are you looking for armel or armhf?
08:32<DNS>have debian installed in my phone :-))
08:32<themill>yeah, so whatever raspbian did to get it to compile may well work for you under debian armhf too
08:33<DNS>yes hopefully
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08:35<calisto>a long time ago (2 months ;-) ), I ask over a software similar to ownclowd or seafile and any propose a sofftware (spain software) but no remember the name, any know the software, its a cloud software, have a smbfs server, ftp, and service of sincroniced over many computers, permit editing documents of openoffice or libreoffice on line, etc
08:36<calisto>yes.. yes thanks bhuddah
08:37<calisto>you test this?
08:37<bhuddah>not personally. but i have heard that it works.
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08:59<rickbol>is there a "debian way" to address the Google CalDAV change? My Iceowl is broken.
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09:01<devil>rickbol: it has nothing to do with debian, you need to change the adress in iceowl (or icedove etc)
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09:02<devil>rickbol: is the new one
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09:04<rickbol>I thought Google made authentication changes in CalDAV (OAuth) that require a newer iceowl, no?
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09:20<rickbol>if i've installed a deb package from an alternate repository, say, apt-get install -t unstable icedove, is there a way to update from that repository?
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09:21<Emma>partouze gay anyone ?
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09:21<petn-randall>rickbol: Uh, it strongly depends on what you've got in your sources.list and /etc/apt/preferences. It's possible, but strongly discouraged to mix stable and unstable.
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09:22<sw_>chat für ?
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09:24<rickbol>Somewhere in my wheezy upgrade process, the recommendation was made to install icedove\weasel from backports, and iceowl from sid.
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09:25<petn-randall>Emma: Unless you have a support question about Debian stable, take it to #debian-offtopic. Keep in mind to keep your language family friendly in both channels.
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09:25<Greylocks>rickbol: you can get iceowl from main I have it works great
09:25<ompaul>rickbol: please paste all of your /etc/apt/sources.list in
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09:27<rickbol>I have backkports and sid listed in sources.list for installing ice<animals>, e.g., apt-get install -t unstable icedove, but do I just *install -t ...* again to update?
09:27<rickbol>update just the specific package
09:27<ompaul>apt-get install apt-show-versions ;apt-show-versions -i ;apt-get install `apt-show-versions -u -b | fgrep REPOGOESHERE`
09:27<DNS>themill: it was easier and faster for me to add shortly the raspbian repo to sources.list, downloaded guile-2.0-libs, and removed the pi repo again from sources:-)
09:28<ompaul>it's horrid
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09:29<bhuddah>is there a preferred way to access ebay via command line in debian? a sniper tool/simple access tool?
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09:32<DNS>bhuddah w3 ;)
09:32<petn-randall>bhuddah: esniper?
09:32<mgv>bhuddah: ebay from surfraw?
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09:34<bhuddah>thx everyone... i'll look into that. well.. no.. not into w3 ^^
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09:42<horux>My kde not mount a partition on ntfs, only if I open dolphin as root, can someone help me?
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09:58<zathras>what is the most elegant way to enable/disable Exim. I do not see the obvious STARTATBOOT on/off switch or something similar in /etc/default/exim
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10:00<jordanm>chkconfig exim4 off
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10:03<wheeler>Hi! I don't know why I cannot see partitions and disks which are not mounted. Normally I could see them in left panel of Nautilus, Thunar etc. Now I can see only 3 partitions which are mounted.
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10:05<babilen>dpkg: tell zathras -about disable service
10:05<babilen>zathras: Why do you want to disable it?
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10:07<zathras>It is a testsystem which is an image of a productionsystem. There might be a notification queue in an applicatie or it might build up one. I do not want these mails to be send to users as they will not be able to handle them on the testserver and it will make things unclear for them. So the easy way out is to disable the mailserver imho
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10:09<zathras>ideally it would be possible to run a script/issue a command that will reconfigure an enviroment (mail, dns, .htaccess, apacheconfig) for production/testing at will
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10:10<zathras>but I fear no such thing exists so I try to do the minimal thing manually
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10:10<zathras>(yes, yes, I presume I could develop it given time and budget)
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10:18<helpneeded>hi all i need some help i try to run a terminal ftp client called pftp-shit tried to compile it and that's what i get
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10:23<babilen>helpneeded: Their code is broken. Contact upstream for help.
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10:23<babilen>helpneeded: There are plenty of ftp clients in Debian, why not use one of those?
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10:25<helpneeded>babilen, looks that problem is on their code isnt it? babilen tbh i never find any good client for linux i tried lftp a bit console terminal too and looks not bad
10:25<petn-randall>plenty of good ftp clients, even.
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10:31<babilen>I mean even mc provides ftp
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10:36<helpneeded>anyways thanks as problem is on their code i'll try something else
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11:45<jakse>I'm having a virtual box running debian 7 . it is connected to the host (which is win8) via bridge network. when i set up VPN in the network manager i cant get the connection to activate... it is like it just doesnt use it. any one had this issue?
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11:48<jakse>hehe ok - not a good idea to try and tamper with it while on irc - just gets me disconected
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13:22<gloire>j'ai besoin d'aide SVP
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13:23<gloire>J'ai un soucis avec mon TOUCHPAD il ne fonctionne plus quelqu'un pourrait t'il m'aider SVP
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13:25<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr.
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14:47<harveyb_>anyone up to helping with a problem install?
14:48<harveyb_>live cd works fine, but after installing it locks up
14:48<hoper>when exactly ?
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14:49<harveyb_>gets to login ok, but after a few seconds/minutes it locks. mouse cursor still there but nothing else. power button WILL shut down normally
14:50<harveyb_>live cd shows notification "GNOME 3 Failed to Load, otherwise works great
14:50<hoper>and no freeeze with just booting with the live CD ? seems a driver that is not in use with the live CD
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14:52<harveyb_>hoper: any tips what to try? i'm fairly green at this.
14:53<hoper>I'm quite busy now :( let me think...
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14:56<harveyb_>hoper: the notification about gnome 3 in live cd says "started in fallback mode" if that helps..
14:57<hoper>I guess it's something with your graphic card :/
14:57<hoper>nvidia ? ati ?
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14:58<harveyb_>hoper: intel 845 graphics. old gateway pc, and it has caused problems with other distros.
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15:00<hoper>can you try to add another gfx card on the main board ?
15:01<hoper>if this box is old, maybe you should try a old disto :/
15:01<retrospectacus>Guest1827: do you have a Debian question?
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15:02<retrospectacus>harveyb_: if you use another Desktop Environmnent besides Gnome you should be OK -try xfce4 or lxde
15:02<harveyb_>hoper: it uses old low profile cards and hard to find. most successful so far has been lubuntu but other problems with that.
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15:05<harveyb_>retrospectacus: i'm trying to get something that will do openvpn. lubuntu seems to have issues with promiscuous mode (?) or something
15:05<sney>!intel-gfx shadow
15:05<dpkg>The shadow option for the intel Xorg driver in Debian is automatically enabled if an 8xx chipset is detected ( Using the shadow buffer disables GPU RENDER acceleration, forcing software fallbacks; see intel(4) for rationale. To override (n.b. this is a system stability risk), ask me about <xorg.conf.d> and define 'Option "Shadow" "false"' in the Device section (e.g.
15:06<sney>harveyb_: ^ this sounds relevant
15:06<hoper>Sorty, I need to go :(
15:06<hoper>Hope someone will help. bye
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15:06<harveyb_>hoper: thanks!
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15:07<retrospectacus>harveyb_: no idea about lubuntu but promiscuous mode is only a setting on your Ethernet driver
15:07<retrospectacus>no DE required
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15:07<harveyb_>sney: i will check it out. thanks
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15:08<harveyb_>retrospectacus: i understand; just explaining why i'm distro shopping :-)
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15:19<LexeCC>hi everyone
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15:22<LexeCC>I'm having a hard time installing 7.1.0 (boot with usb key) on a machine without optical drive & 2 realtek 8111G LAN ports
15:23<LexeCC>Motherboard is a MSI Z87I
15:23<LexeCC>can anyone point me in the right direction?
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15:23<retrospectacus>LexeCC: what's the problem
15:24<LexeCC>the problem is the installation fails at the "detect cdrom" step
15:24<LexeCC>i tried the netinstall image and the full disk image
15:24<retrospectacus>how did you create the USB image
15:25<LexeCC>thanks for helping me, i appreciate
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15:25<LexeCC>booting is fine
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15:26<retrospectacus>LexeCC: failure to "detect cdrom" is a common problem if you don't write the ISO to usb using a recommended method
15:26<LexeCC>I think the install needs drivers and can't get them from the network so it seeks for the optical drive
15:26<LexeCC>oh ok
15:26<LexeCC>how should i create it then?
15:26<retrospectacus>LexeCC: "cp deb.iso /dev/sdb" is the standard way
15:26<retrospectacus>if you only have windows there is some recommended program, hang on
15:27<LexeCC>allright, I'll check it out
15:27<LexeCC>thanks for your help
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15:27<retrospectacus>you're welcome
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15:28<LexeCC>should I use the netinst or the full disk image?
15:29<retrospectacus>I guess you can use the big one if you've got it already
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15:30<retrospectacus>netinstaller saves bandwidth, only downloads needed packages during installation
15:30<LexeCC>ok lets try booting ..
15:32<LexeCC>allright, the install made it through the once failing step
15:32<LexeCC>thanks a million my friend
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15:32<retrospectacus>LexeCC: enjoy Debian! We'll be here if you have questions
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15:47<horux>my compiz :D
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15:51<abrotman>horux: knock it off
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16:23<joseph-soares>hi. is it possible run a script just after a computer connect to the Internet?
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16:25<jordanm>joseph-soares: depends on how you connect. if you use /etc/network/interfaces, use a post-up rule
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16:27<joseph-soares>jordanm, where do I put a post-up rule?
16:27<jordanm>in /etc/network/interfaces, see man interfaces
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16:30<joseph-soares>jordanm, Is it possible to say where do I connect ?
16:30<joseph-soares>jordanm, My interfaces file
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16:33<jordanm>joseph-soares: not there
16:33<jordanm>joseph-soares: probably network-manager
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16:36<joseph-soares>jordanm, network-manager is abailable as a service too? Can you tell me where do I find its configuration?
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16:37<jordanm>joseph-soares: it's typcially configured through a gui, depending on your desktop environment
16:37<jordanm>for me it's system settings -> network connections (KDE)
16:38<jordanm>joseph-soares: I don't know that it has a way to execute arbiturary commands after bringing an interface up. what are you actually trying to accomplish?
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16:40<joseph-soares>jordanm, I need a computer send me a message when it reboots or when it starts up
16:42<jordanm>joseph-soares: just send the email, it will stay in the mail queue until network is available
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16:44<joseph-soares>jordanm, That's ok, but it does not work under proxy
16:44<jordanm>what does not work?
16:45<jordanm>sending an email?
16:45<joseph-soares>jordanm, sending email through the proxy
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16:46<jordanm>so how do you expect it to send you a message?
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16:47<joseph-soares>jordanm, From a Post request
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16:48<joseph-soares>jordanm, I access a page that waits for a post request.
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16:49<jordanm>a monitoring system?
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16:50<joseph-soares>jordanm, So so. It's a page that's when I send a POST request, with some paramethers, it will send an e-mail to me
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16:53<joseph-soares>jordanm, Well, This computer is at the University, and there the network is configured in /etc/network/interfaces. I put some rules that make eth0 start up with static IP
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16:54<joseph-soares>jordanm, I saw something like putting the script into if-up.d directory
16:56<jordanm>try it
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16:59<joseph-soares>jordanm, I tryed, but I don't know if the script is executed. I don't receive the email
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16:59<joseph-soares>jordanm, Thanks, I'll try tomorrow
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17:02<stderr>joseph-soares: You could add something like date >>/tmp/script.log at the beginning and end of the script.
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17:03<stderr>If nothing gets added to the logfile, the script never runs.
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17:12<joseph-soares>stderr, Thank you, I'll try this too.
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17:13<joseph-soares>jordanm, When you say I send email that it will be in queue, you mean I put the command in /etc/rc.local or other file?
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18:43<jean_>bonjour ?
18:43<retrospectacus>good day
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18:44<jean_>hello, you're the first person i speack with on irc
18:45<retrospectacus>jean_: I am honoured
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18:45<babilen>jean_: Welcome, you should be aware that this is a technical support channel for Debian users. I can happily provide you with some information on how to use IRC but ultimately this channel is not for chatting, but support. Do you use Debian and do you have a question?
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18:45<babilen>dpkg: tell jean_ -about irc tutorial
18:46<jean_>i want to connect to but after trying "ssh, i must give à password
18:46<abrotman>connect using what?
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18:47<retrospectacus>_ or . ?
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18:49<retrospectacus> only speaks ssh. You will definitely need a password
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18:59<Elico>Hey there. I am looking for a content system like IBM docs.
18:59<Elico>an example of what I am looking is at:
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19:00<devil>there is a lot on that page
19:00<abrotman>i think he means with the sidebar, etc
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19:01<Elico>yes indeed abrotman !
19:01<Elico>the IBM symbol is less what I am looking for...
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19:03<abrotman>Elico: you'll have to play with search terms "help system" is one i could think of, 'document management' might be another
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19:03<meatbag>Hi guys
19:03<retrospectacus>hi meatbag
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19:04<meatbag>Not used IRC for many years, am I in te right pace to ask about running debian on a server?
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19:06<nutron>Hrrm... I just came back to my workstation and it was hung.... tried remotely ssh'ing in to it and it took too long to respond.... It was frozen on a screensaver....
19:06<nutron>So here
19:07<nutron>Here's the thing... after checking syslog .... I found the following...:
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19:07<nutron>Bad no?
19:08<nutron>Googling doesn't seem to help, though it seems that it's a valid trojan for win32... but... I'm running debian....
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19:10<meatbag>AWesome. I would prefer to use debian, as I am resonably familiar with it, but would like the boot drive to be able to spin down. NAS linuxes seem to be able to do this, but not debian, can this be fixed without a great pain in the arse?
19:11<abrotman>hdparm perhaps
19:11<Elico>abrotman: first thanks...
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19:11<meatbag>debian makes many log writes etc
19:12<meatbag>spin the idsk back up...
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19:14<acidrainjr>hey i need a little help
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19:16<meatbag>acid, what problem?
19:17<acidrainjr>my software updater is glitching all over the place
19:18<abrotman>software updater?
19:18<meatbag>debian, I assume? WHat glitches?
19:18<meatbag>MORE INFO!!! :)
19:19<acidrainjr>its a os based off of debian called sparkylinux the software updater is glitching
19:19<acidrainjr>its a 32bit os
19:19<abrotman>acidrainjr: this channel supports Debian, not other distros
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19:20<abrotman>I was going to redirect him to sme possibly usable places, but okay
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19:24<meatbag>More reading... Wake on lan seems a better choice... power down the whole pentium 3 powered awesome...
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19:27<stderr>nutron: When your computer took too long to respond, did you just pull the power?
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19:31<Elico>abrotman: I am trying to play with it but I am unsure on what direction to aim..
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19:43<Elico>I have seen wikis but it's not the same at all
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19:47<Elico>I have seen Alfresco, did you ever heared of that>
19:48<v13rn3513>speking in spanish
19:48<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
19:48<Elico>Hola (only this word)
19:49<v13rn3513>do homework my exercise of english pliss xDD
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19:54<meatbag>how much you pay?
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19:56<v13rn3513>whit 8=====D 8=====D
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19:57<meatbag>ah, no thanks. a bit small.
19:57<themill>!ubuntu-es v13rn3513
19:57<dpkg>v13rn3513: Ubuntu esta basado en Debian, pero no es Debian, y dificilmente tendra los estandares de Debian. Solo Debian es soportado en #debian. Por favor conectese a #ubuntu-es en Ahi recibira mas soporte.
19:58<v13rn3513>ok, but no people is a shit
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20:01<Cristian>hello i'm testing dovecot +postfix +mysql, how can i solve this error: Permission denied (euid=5000(vmail) egid=5000(vmail) missing +r perm: /var/run/dovecot/dict, dir owned by 0:0 mode=0755
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20:08<nutron>stderr: sorry I was away... i pressed the reset button
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20:09<stderr>nutron: Did you use Windows before and what filesystem are you using now? Those messages could be old...
20:09<nutron>no look at the time...
20:09<nutron>haven't used windows since ... 2001.? maybe...
20:09<nutron>though there are some win 7 boxes on the same network.
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20:11<Cristian>please somebody help me
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20:16<Cristian>thanks im going to check it
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20:17<nutron>stderr: using jfs
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20:19<stderr>nutron: Maybe not then... It just looked like a broken filesystem to me. I would probably run a fsck just to be sure.
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20:19<nutron>with as a function? =/ \
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20:21<stderr>It could be part of a fingerprint file for a virus scanner.
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20:21<nutron>hmm, well, I don
20:21<stderr>File size : md5sum : Virus to report...
20:21<nutron>grr... freakin' fat fingers!
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20:22<nutron>Hmm... right, well I'm gonna grep the hd for it =)
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20:24<acidrainjr>well do you know what room for me to go to for support on it
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20:34<Cristian>retrospectacus: thanks, i going to check and test all the rest of the mailserver
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23:20<vortek>I got slight problem, Every page i go to that uses flash to navigate says to install a newer version of flash. Can anybody help me oease?
23:20<vortek>every site
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23:23<chealer>!tell vortek about anybody
23:24<vortek>How do I get a newer version of Flash?
23:27<chealer>vortek: Which Debian suite do you use?
23:28<themill>chealer: that's not a use of "anybody" that justifies that response.
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23:30<themill>vortek: the output of «aptitude versions ~nflash~i» would be good to see in a pastebin
23:31<XReaper>dpaste if anything
23:31<themill> is nicer for everyone concerned
23:31<themill>(basically, anything other than
23:34<vortek>it outputs nothing returns me to the prompt
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23:34<chealer>themill: it is.
23:35<themill>vortek: how did you install flash?
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23:35<themill>chealer: no, it really is not. The problem was stated. The real question was asked.
23:35<themill>vortek: installing what package?
23:36<vortek>i dont remember let me check realy fast
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23:36<chealer>themill: "Can anybody help me oease?" is not what I call a real question, no
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23:36<themill>chealer: get a grip
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23:40<themill>vortek: I'm guessing you really want adobe flash instead then. /msg dpkg adobe flash
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23:41<chealer>themill: dude, you expressed your opinion. I'm sorry, but that didn't convince me. you're equally free to get a grip.
23:42<themill>chealer: no, there's a difference. I don't like your way of pretending to help people through passive-aggressive harassment interspersed by the odd bit of help.
23:42<themill>What's more, I'm supposed to do something about it if I don't like it.
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23:44<themill>So, I am simply asking you to work with people to elucidate their meaning. Not everyone has fluent English and yet their meaning can be perfectly obvious. There is no need to berate people for using the word "anyone" when we have a nice clear problem statement.
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23:47<vortek>i found the wiki that helped me get it :)
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23:47<themill>excellent. You may want to remove that gnash package so that your browser picks up the adobe flash plugin instead
23:48<chealer>themill: heh. that's funny, but quite disturbing too. I'm not aware that I've been harassing people.
23:48<themill>really? you are well known for it.
23:49<chealer>themill: that's precisely why I used the anyone factoid.
23:50<vortek>thankyou for the support
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23:57<chealer>themill: that being said, I'm not sure you're in a good position to reprimand passive-aggressive behavior. I appreciate to hear your opinion on myself now, but you didn't need to keep that to yourself for years.
23:59<chealer>themill: please [keep] let[ting] me know right away if you see interventions from myself (or anyone) that you consider inappropriate
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