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#debian IRC Logs for 2013-10-15

---Logopened Tue Oct 15 00:00:03 2013
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00:58<Cactus>Hey
00:58<leoslax>hey cactus
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03:04<Elico>I was wondering what is the name of this data format? http://mirror.debian.org/staticlist/Mirrors.masterlist
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03:05<dcraig>text
03:05<dcraig>:D
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03:06<Elico>yes but it's formatted with a double space between every site..
03:07<Elico>I just do not remember how it was called..
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03:09<jm_>I see a single empty line and it looks the same as for dpkg status file and Packages.* files
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03:14<themill>Elico: it's often called "pseudo-RFC822" there are a good python and perl modules for consuming this format.
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03:39<Elico>themill: thanks!
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03:42<Elico>themill: maybe you know how this format named? MIME maybe?
03:43<flo1546796>hi folks, does anyone know the syntax to use shell variable in grep's expreg parameters ? I use this expression '[0-9A-Z]\{10,\}' and i would like to use integer variable to defini length option more or less like this : '[0-9A-Z]\{$INTEGER,\}'.
03:44<jm_>flo1546796: '' means no expansion occurs ...
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03:46<flo1546796>jm_, does it means that expreg should be a constant ?
03:47<jm_>flo1546796: no, it means you can't use '...$FOO...' if you want parameter expansion to happen
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03:55<flo1546796>jm_, ok, is there a way to do it ? ${VAR} or something less ?
03:56<jm_>flo1546796: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/abs-guide.html#VARSUBN
03:57<flo1546796>jm_, ty
03:58<jm_>no worries
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04:36<sun>hello
04:37<Maulkin>!ask
04:37<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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04:39<dcraig>omg maybe he's just saying hi
04:39<musca>hi sun
04:39<caravel>dima_ & sun : just ask your question (in here please, not in private)
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04:39*caravel hi all
04:39<dcraig>hi
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04:44<rpetre_>hello, probably not the right channel to ask, but are the britney hint files versioned somewhere? I'm trying to track down the reason behind a package being removed from wheezy last year
04:44<liyuanchun>hello
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04:44<liyuanchun>我可以在这里输入中文么。。。。。
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04:44<geruipeng>no
04:44<cheng>hello,everybody.
04:45<liyuanchun>闹了半天全是自己人啊
04:45<cheng>where are you from?
04:45<liyuanchun>喂??
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04:46<cheng>I come from China
04:46<cheng>.
04:46<cheng>???
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04:47<qhp>sb
04:47<EmleyMoor>I have something strange going on with ssh - for one user only, one machine is failing to respond to keys sent, and prompting for a password. It works fine for the other machines, and other users - what would cause this? Debian wheezy both ends.
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04:48<thargos>check your file permissions maybe
04:48<thargos>for the ssh keys
04:48<Yoda-BZH>EmleyMoor: check auth.log on the serveur and ssh -vv on the client. I suppose it's due to permissions on the home directory
04:48<EmleyMoor>ssh -vv shows the client getting no response to the key - not "no" but nothing
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04:51<EmleyMoor>auth.log shows the key being accepted... but it still proceeds to password
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04:52<EmleyMoor>ssh -vvv no help above -vv btw
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04:54<EmleyMoor>Ah, found problem...
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04:55<Infiltrator>EmleyMoor: What was it?
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04:57<EmleyMoor>Infiltrator: On this particular machine, I was coming in from a different IP and it wasn't allowed by the "from" parameter... when I looked at the right log it was obvious. Thanks for helping me find it, though.
04:58<Infiltrator>EmleyMoor: You're welcome. >.>
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04:59<pabs>does anyone know of a DNS cache like dnsmasq that 1) forwards to the other addresses listed in /etc/resolv.conf 2) caches more than just A/AAAA (dnsmasq #579536) 3) can also be made to return NXDOMAIN for particular domains? 4) supports configuration in a conf.d style directory?
05:00<Natureshadow>pabs: powerdns, I suspect, but I find that horribly broken and unusable
05:01<pabs>in what way?
05:01<Infiltrator>pabs: Have a look at the output of `apt-cache search dns cache`; otherwise, you'd have to look outside Debian.
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05:02<Natureshadow>pabs: hmm, maybe not at the core, but they broke the configuration syntax for MySQL and LDAP backends some times in a row, and I think now they have dropped support for the ldap backend, and some time in betweenthey decided that you cannot use the two together...
05:02<Natureshadow>But the core maybe ok...
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05:03<petn-randall>pabs: I find your condition 1) very disturbing, and a little offensive.
05:04<petn-randall>;)
05:04<pabs>wut?
05:04<petn-randall>pabs: If it wasn't for 1), probably most DNS servers will fit.
05:05<pabs>that is how dnsmasq does it
05:05<Natureshadow>May be, but what's offensive about it? And against what?
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05:10<petn-randall>Just kidding about the offensive part, but if you're running a DNS server /etc/resolv.conf is usually 127.0.0.1.
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05:11<Natureshadow>petn-randall: that's why he said "other addresses". Obviously, having only ::1 in resolv.conf is a SPOF
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05:25<petn-randall>I personally only have the local DNS server in /etc/resolv.conf, I'd rather have something break obviously (and easy to debug), than to have unexpected lookups and delays.
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07:19<v13rn3513>hi comunity debian
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07:56<cet>Hello all! I'm having problems at boot with Debian Wheezy, It's intermitent and it's sounds like this image: http://imagebin.org/273722
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07:59<cet>My system has ext4 at boot and need to load dmraid for fake raid setup.
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08:03<|Anthony|>I'm trying to make a modified sudoers file but it keeps failing
08:03<|Anthony|>After i make the edits i check with visudo -cf and it passes syntax checks. I then move the file to /etc/sudoers.d/sudoers where sudo promptly breaks stating a parse error. The line it references keeps on moving down the list as i comment the previous offenses out.
08:04<|Anthony|>why would the file pass the visudo check, but fail when put into place?
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08:11<cet>My problem sounds like this, but I have no response: http://osdir.com/ml/debian-kernel/2013-05/msg00536.html
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08:13<jm_>have you tried using a newer kernel?
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08:27<cet>No, in reality, since this is the last kernel version into Wheezy, but I found this bug: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=699437
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08:28<cet>I will restart my computer now to check if the workaround works (enabling "GRUB_DISABLE_LINUX_UUID=true" ) and I back here to give a feedback
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08:28<cet>I back soon!
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08:42<cet>I'm back, the fix does not worked
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08:42<cet>I'm upgrading the system to jessie
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09:02<Iridos>cet, why the heck would you do that?
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09:07<Iridos>judd, kernels
09:07<judd>Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.11-trunk-686-pae (3.11-1~exp1); sid: 3.10-3-686-pae (3.10.11-1); jessie: 3.10-3-686-pae (3.10.11-1); wheezy-backports: 3.10-0.bpo.3-686-pae (3.10.11-1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.51-1); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.2.46-1+deb7u1~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-48squeeze4)
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09:07<Iridos>cet, 3.10.0 is the "the latest into wheezy" (including backports)
09:07<Iridos>dpkg, tell cet about backports
09:07<Iridos>oh well
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09:37<cet>iridos: ops :P thanks for info
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09:43<nadir>ding is a dictionary german-english. I type in my word and i get the translation.
09:44<nadir>Is there a similar app for english-french and or english-turkish ?
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09:46<nadir>"dict-freedict-eng-fra - Dict package for English-French Freedict dictionary" But how would i use it ?
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09:47<Iridos>nadir, apt-cache show ding
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09:47<Iridos>--> The default configuration of ding uses the German-English dictionary which can be found in the trans-de-en package, but you can use every other translation word lists with one entry per line.
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09:48<nadir>Ah, cool. So that seems easy. Thanks (anything locales/language related confuses me)
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09:49<Iridos>unfortunately... trans-de-en seems to be the only dictionary designed for ding packaged in debian (or at least... the only one called trans-*)
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09:50<nadir>I just thought of that problem.
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09:50<nadir>Yes, i think it is special compared to others "wordlists"
09:50<nadir>but perhaps not
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09:57<Iridos>nadir, dunno, there are "translate" and dict-de-en for dictd... both only do DE<->EN as well. The only thing with ... any kind of files for translations between multiple languates is "apertium", but that seems to have much more complex aims than what you were looking for
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10:03<nadir>Iridos: Yes, i really look for something dead easy. Let me look at apertium anyway (ding is really good, btw, for easy purposes)
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10:17<Iridos>nadir, for ding, there seems to be DE<->ES and DE<->PT... and that's it
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10:19<nadir>So my most easy option is google-translate? Or just "grep" through a wordlist file ....
10:20<nadir>I'd ask in #debian-fr, but no one would understand me :-)
10:20<Iridos>nadir, for online I prefer dict.leo.org ... I thought you were looking for an offline-solution in debian, though
10:20<nadir>I am looking for offline solution.
10:21<Iridos>hmm, and it does a lot of DE<->XXX , but apparently not EN<->XXX
10:21<nadir>Oh, DE <-> FR is fine too
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10:27<Iridos>nadir, oh... ha. I thought... one could make such a list pretty easily from wikionary interwiki-links... and as the "other dictionaries" entries from ding at http://www-user.tu-chemnitz.de/~fri/ding/ says... I wasn't the only one to have that idea
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10:31<Iridos>nadir, there's a page explaining how you get them... http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User:Matthias_Buchmeier/download
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10:32<nadir>Wow. Yeah, that's looks like exactly what i am looking for. Thanks.
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10:33<Iridos>does seem to produce lists with not too many words, though
10:33<Iridos>I would have thought differently from my (vague) impression of completeness of wikionary
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10:33<Iridos>but probably... my impression only comes from EN, maybe a bit from DE and all others are much less complete
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10:35<Iridos>nadir, oh well... guess ~50000 lines for en<->fr isn't too shabby
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10:38<nadir>Iridos: really thanks a lot. I don't know the "terms" for dicts, translation, wordlists and what not. That makes searching or asking very difficult (lack of terms)
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10:39<Iridos>nadir, actually, turned out to be on the ding homepage :D
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10:40<nadir>Yeah, now i look a little bit ... well: lazy
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10:40<nadir>ding is very ugly, but for quick offline translations it is quite good. (at least german - english)
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10:41<nadir>just in case anyone will ever search for such a tool
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11:05<jak>hey :0
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11:05<jak>debian guyz
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11:08<csotelop>hello debianers
11:08<csotelop>hello
11:08<csotelop>sorry for the lines
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11:08<csotelop>I am on a text mode client
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11:09<csotelop>I have an issue with my debian, I have updated to teh last sid version and my debian couldnt start X
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11:10<csotelop>X tell me no screend found, and when I try to install fglrx driver, twll me that dependence are not available to install. I have an ati radeon driver
11:10<bhuddah>csotelop: please look at the topic. here we only support stable. thx.
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11:11<csotelop>bhuddah, I see, and where I could get support for sid? thanks
11:12<bhuddah>csotelop: testing/unstable: #debian-next
11:12<csotelop>thanks a lot
11:12<bhuddah>no prob.
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11:43<jgcampbell300>I am looking for suggestions ... my goal is to load a powerfull server with something .. virtulize guest os's ... im not sure how to explain but ill try this .. when this server turns on it would ask me what image i want to start and then load it ... but at the same time i want to be able to hit pause like in virtual box and load a diffrent one .. but i dont want the host os eating up resources ... can somone point me to the r
11:43<jgcampbell300>ight place to do some reading on this ... i dont know the termanolagy
11:44<jgcampbell300>maybe even be able to run more than one image at once .. i wonder if this even exists
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11:52<xico>hi. i am having a trouble with my last (kernel?) update in sid. my encrypted partitions are not found on boot on the newest kernel (3.10-3) booting on the previous kernel works without flaw (3.10-2). as a side note there was an update for mdadm in the same batch.
11:53<xico>(partition setup having been installed through last debian stable cd)
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11:55<xico>(and there is a new mdadm in the updates)
11:56<retrospectacus>!debian-next
11:56<dpkg>#debian-next is a channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net).
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12:01<cinch>xico, same problem here!
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12:01<retrospectacus>cinch: he left, but go to the #debian-next channel for issues with sid
12:02<cinch>thanks
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12:38<zerick> Hii guys, I find that is possible to see the body message but for the mail in queue, I want to know the content of a mail that was sent, is that possible ? I'm using Exim4
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13:06<JoshTriplett>Anyone around running latest Debian unstable with GNOME 3.8ish?
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13:07<petn-randall>JoshTriplett: Not so much here, but lots of people are on #debian-next.
13:08<JoshTriplett>petn-randall: Yeah, just joined there.
13:08<petn-randall>JoshTriplett: You'll have more luck over there, this is the stable support channel. See you there :)
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13:28<user__>hi guys :-)
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14:18<other_nick-37>Hello, any idea whyt the ^(regex beggin) won't work here: apt-file -x search "^sa"
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14:19<retrospectacus>other_nick-37: because no filename starts with "sa"
14:19<retrospectacus>they all start with /
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14:21<other_nick-37>oh! lol that's nice to know...
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14:24<nyso>hi there
14:24<retrospectacus>or put differently, apt-file's database contains only canonical filenames
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14:27<retrospectacus>other_nick-37: perhaps you want apt-file -x search "/sa[^/]*$"
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14:27<oneking>what up kids
14:27<other_nick-37>exactly! thanks retrospectacus
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14:28<Dmor>Hi, I'm having some issues with the CD command, it doesn't always work. Here's an example on what happens (basically nothing): http://puu.sh/4QTdk.png
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14:28<Dmor>It works perfectly on my other server though.
14:29<retrospectacus>Dmor: looks fine. What were you expecting?
14:29<retrospectacus>"cd" does not normally output anything
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14:30<Dmor>Oh my, I'm so dumb. I entered the home directory for the user that I logged in with...
14:30<retrospectacus>yes; ~ is your home
14:30<retrospectacus>( you can just enter "cd" to go there )
14:31<Dmor>Yeah, I made a dumb mistake... >.<
14:31<retrospectacus>no worries
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14:33<Dmor>Thanks anyways though. :)
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14:48<gregor_>hey guys
14:48<gregor_>Thanks for the help a view Days ago
14:49<gregor_>gksu nautilus was exactly the command i needed
14:51<retrospectacus>"gksu nautilus" doesn't sound like a good solution to anything to me, but glad you're happy
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15:28<derdui>!german
15:28<dpkg>Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de).
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15:52<windows>When trying to run a virtualbox, I get "Kernal driver not installed (rc=-1908)". I then install the dkms package and ran vbox as root, but got the same error.
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15:56<devil>hm, he ran off...
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16:49<cpt_peacock>avening
16:50<cpt_peacock>wich lancuage?
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16:50<sney>cpt_peacock: this channel is for english speakers. there are other channels for other languages
16:50<sney>#debian-nl for dutch
16:51<cpt_peacock>oh ok thnx sney i .am trying ok lol
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17:07<drjointpl>hi
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17:09<drjointpl>i have a troble with playonlinux
17:10<drjointpl>i instal game and when i want open aplication
17:10<drjointpl>i have error
17:10<drjointpl>http://paste.debian.net/58047/
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17:12<drjointpl>some ideas |?
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17:17<drjointpl>:/
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17:26<drjointpl>i see no ideas
17:26<drjointpl>must change for uv=buntu :/
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17:26<drjointpl>bay
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17:27<rescuatux213213>I'm trying to restore grub with Rescatux and this is the error im getting -> http://pastebin.com/yQM505vQ
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17:45<charles>hi
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17:45<TonyL>hi
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17:46<charles>I'am a new debian user (Since 3 Hours)
17:46<gregor_>Jeah!
17:46<gregor_>Cool!
17:46<TonyL>indeed
17:46<retrospectacus>!congratulate charles
17:46<dpkg>Hugs & Puppies charles, you did it!
17:46<TonyL>lol
17:47<charles>Yeah thank you guys
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17:49<charles>I Have installed XFCE Version of Debian and i wanted to know if it was possible to enable Highlighting caracters in Mousepad text editor
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17:50<husonet>Hello
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17:51<TonyL>only problem i have is i cant use wireless D:
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17:51<retrospectacus>charles: I don't think so. There are plenty of editors that do syntax highlighting
17:51<husonet>I have a problem
17:51<husonet>for nginx
17:51<retrospectacus>dpkg: tell husonet about ask
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17:51<retrospectacus>dpkg: tell TonyL about wireless
17:51<retrospectacus>charles: I don't think so. There are plenty of editors that do syntax highlighting though.
17:51<skee>hey everyone, is there any way to "lint" or syntax check /etc/network/interfaces ?
17:51<TonyL>._.
17:53<retrospectacus>?
17:53<gregor_>what do you guys think about mint?
17:53<Maulkin>gregor_: We generally don't.
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17:53<gregor_>you dont?
17:53<stderr>gregor_: I think it's not debian.
17:53<Maulkin>Nope.
17:54<gregor_>what is changed from debian to mint debian?
17:54<stderr>Ask mint.
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17:54<retrospectacus>gregor_: we don't know /care
17:54<Cogito>isn't mint a flavour of ubuntu?
17:54<Cogito>or are they agnostic?
17:54<husonet>Please help me for nginx
17:54<retrospectacus>dpkg: tell husonet about ask
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17:54<ljsoftnet>there is a version of linuxmint derive from debian testing
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17:55<gregor_>mint made a ubuntu and debian edition!
17:55<stderr>gregor_: We don't really care... :-)
17:55<retrospectacus>gregor_: go talk about that somewhere else... this is Debian support
17:55<gregor_>And the difrence between debian and ubuntu
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17:55<gregor_>can you tell me?
17:55<stderr>husonet: You should probably read the private message you got from dpkg.
17:55<Maulkin>gregor_: No, we still don't care.
17:55<retrospectacus>gregor_: no
17:56<retrospectacus>gregor_: try #moocows
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17:56<Maulkin>gregor_: We produce Debian. We consider this the best operating system. Try asking in #moocows perhaps
17:56<gregor_>ok
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17:58<noeyes>!!!!
17:58<dpkg>"Multiple exclamation marks," he went on, shaking his head, "are a sure sign of a diseased mind." - Terry Pratchett, Eric
17:58<noeyes>Terry
17:58<noeyes>???
17:58<noeyes>!!!
17:58<dpkg>I'm not your csh prompt!
17:58<noeyes>!!!!
17:58<dpkg>"Multiple exclamation marks," he went on, shaking his head, "are a sure sign of a diseased mind." - Terry Pratchett, Eric
17:58<noeyes>!
17:58<noeyes>!!!!!!!!!
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17:58<stderr>noeyes: Stop it.
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18:00<charles>I Have installed Medit as Text editor (Simple, Highlighting syntax , That's all i need)
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18:09<Out`Of`Control>Hi
18:09<Out`Of`Control>Why i mumble is gone from debian repos?
18:09<Out`Of`Control>-i
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18:10<Maulkin>Out`Of`Control: What version of Debian are you running?
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18:10<Out`Of`Control>Maulkin i have testing and unstable
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18:11<Maulkin>Out`Of`Control: it's in unstable, it's not in testing at the moment. And you should probably talk to #debian-next, as they're not supported here
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18:12<Out`Of`Control>Maulkin: ok ty
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19:11<gregor_>Can someone help me?
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19:11<gregor_>I have wine installed and no sound. I cant sellect my soundcard in the list!
19:13<mtn>gregor_: the best place for wine help is on #winehq on the freenode server
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19:13<SamB>sound workse elsewhere?
19:13<gregor_>sound works evrywere
19:14<gregor_>only not in wine and i cant select the right output in the config of wine
19:14<SamB>and you have libwine-alsa and/or libwine-oss installed?
19:15<SamB>or possibly libwine-openal
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19:17<gregor_>no
19:17<gregor_>lib-wine-geko 1.4 is installed
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19:18<retrospectacus>gregor_: if you use pulse, try setting an .asoundrc as show in https://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer#Troubleshooting
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19:56<Revan>Hello
19:56<retrospectacus>hi
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20:31<Elico>Hey there, I am looking for a documentation option that will result is something like this: http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/apsshelp/v8r7m0/index.jsp which has a tree in the side etc..
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20:32<Elico>IS there an application to write help for linux *help* ??
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20:38<Infiltrator>Elico: What is it that you're actually after? Are you looking to take existing content (man pages?) and present them differently (as in that web page which you linked)?
20:39<Elico>Infiltrator: no. I am looking to take my own content and put it on intranet but in a nice form.
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20:40<Elico>I have been using some wikis and it was nice..
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20:40<Elico>but then I have seen another way of organizing the content which seems like more nice to me..
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20:42<Infiltrator>Elico: Just do `apt-cache search content presentation` or similar. (Or use Synaptic, if you prefer.)
20:43<Infiltrator>There are a few options available.
20:43<MoRoSKiT>Hello Excuse me there is the maximum number of channel with xchat?
20:43<Elico>I am unsure to what even look for Infiltrator ..
20:43<retrospectacus>MoRoSKiT: probably not
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20:43<Infiltrator>Elico: Well, how about pubtal? "pubtal - Template driven web site builder for small sites"
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20:44<MoRoSKiT>Because I can not connect with xchat, I have less than 100
20:44<Infiltrator>Elico: Or rest2web: "rest2web - web site builder using ReStructured Text as basic content format"
20:45<Infiltrator>MoRoSKiT: What message are you getting when you try to connect?
20:45<retrospectacus>MoRoSKiT: what version of Debian are you using and what happens when you try to?
20:46<MoRoSKiT>thank you for your reply I'm with ubuntu and I use xchat, and what conerne the message does not tell me, I'm already connecting to 100 channels
20:46<Infiltrator>!ubuntu
20:46<dpkg>Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>.
20:46<Elico>Infiltrator: I think it's nice.. but how about a thing that looks similar to a tree in the left side?
20:47<Elico>I mean let say gnome-terminal HELP..\
20:47<MoRoSKiT>It is not related with the distribution
20:47<Infiltrator>Elico: Sorry; I'm not actually familiar with any of them; I just did a quick search for "content presentation".
20:47<MoRoSKiT>Sorry
20:47<Elico>ha git it
20:47<Infiltrator>Elico: If you hang around here, somebody else might know, though.
20:47<Elico>yes this is what I think...
20:48<Elico>I was thinking about the man page thing you told me about..
20:48<Elico>is there a nice man pages site?
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20:49<musca>!docbook-markup
20:49<dpkg>docbook-markup is probably See http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/documentation/reference/html/docbook.html
20:49<musca>!docbook
20:49<dpkg>docbook is probably a sgml or xml dtd used for docmentation authoring. documentation for it can be found at http://www.docbook.org/tdg5/en/html/docbook.html. Install: docbook, docbook{-doc,-styles,-xml,-xt,-too}, sgml{-base,-data}, task-sgml, task-sgml-dev, jade. See: docbook-markup
20:49<Infiltrator>Elico: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=online+man+page
20:49<Infiltrator>Elico: Four of the first five results. :P
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20:51<Elico>all of them I know and.. thanks it helps..
20:53<linuxator>hm... MoRoSKiT quit to ubuntu probably too bad i had his answer
20:54<Elico>Infiltrator: Infiltrator http://www.man-online.org/ this looks very nice..
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20:56<themill>manpages.debian.net is pretty good
20:56<linuxator>Elico, you can try on terminal man commandyouwanthere
20:56<Elico>linuxator: well I do use it but this site looks much better!!!
20:58<Elico>this site actually tells you: "I look good..start reading"
20:58<linuxator>Elico, sure as it is easier on you i told that cause maybe on some cases you dont have internet or even gui so at least on that situation helps a lot from terminal
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21:02<musca>Elico: i like to read almost any special docu in the konqueror browser, with the help of kio-plugins it understands e.g. man:/ info:/ perldoc:/
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21:04<linuxator>Elico, are you searching for basic commands and switches or for full manual?
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21:13<Elico>a sec
21:14<Elico>linuxator: I am writing some docs for some software and the structure of IBM\eclipse docs looks very nice..
21:15<Elico>musca: thanks! wasn't thinking of that since I work a lot with gnome now a days..
21:16<Elico>this: http://wiki.squid-cache.org/Features/StoreID/DB#Debian_release_mirrors was nice thing...
21:16<rostam>HI I like to get some suggestion on a boot strategy for a system which boots from hard disk. After each reboot system needs to boot to prestine filesystem every single time. I have heard about snapshot and read only file system. Any idea or reference on how to do this would be great? thx
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21:18<Elico>be back later
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22:08<austeregrim>anyone here have good experience with aptget/aptitude.. I have an annoying issue (under ubuntu but not ubuntu specific)
22:08<austeregrim>Installed google chrome-beta... forced with some unmet dependancies
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22:09<austeregrim>now aptitude and apt-get bitch at me for not having met those deps
22:09<austeregrim>and I can't install anything else
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22:10<austeregrim>its what I get for going with a held back OS
22:10<lamb>Uninstalling google chrome should solve everything
22:10<austeregrim>lamb, yeah thats the solution aptitude gives me too
22:10<lamb>austeregrim: it's what you get for trying to install a botnet in your machine
22:10<austeregrim>but I don't want to uninstall chrome.
22:10<austeregrim>actually I can uninstal chrome.. the beta didn't give me what I thought it was going to give me
22:11<austeregrim>damn
22:11<lamb>You know you want to. Deep down. The same part of your heart that beats as you use Debian.... search your feelings.
22:11<austeregrim>I know =(
22:11<austeregrim>I actually want to get out from the ubuntu umbrella all together
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22:11<austeregrim>can't stand ubiquity
22:11<lamb>Anyway, if you didn't met the dependencies, why did you install with a package anyway? You could just have installed a binary and the system would not have ever noticed....
22:11<austeregrim>or whatever it's called
22:12<abrotman>this is #debian, ask #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net
22:12<austeregrim>yeah ubuntu on freenode ignored me
22:12<austeregrim>ubuntu is debian.
22:12<abrotman>not our problem, this channel supports Debian
22:12<lamb>They're too busy trying to remove the windows viruses from Wine, I guess
22:12<abrotman>no, it's not
22:12<austeregrim>k
22:12<austeregrim>thanks lamb
22:12<abrotman>austeregrim: again, use #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net for Ubuntu support, or maybe try ##linux
22:13<austeregrim>##linux wouldn't want to deal wtih aptitude
22:13<austeregrim>aptitude is debian in general
22:13<austeregrim>I would've had this issue if I was using debian too
22:14<lamb>austeregrim: I strongly recommend that you just install a binary instead of a package, if you really insist on using Chrome. But if you listen to the heart of the cards, install Iceweasel / Midori or something.
22:14<austeregrim>I couldn't find a binary...
22:14<austeregrim>I guess I could've just opened the package
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22:15<themill>austeregrim: this is still the wrong channel
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22:47<rostam>HI if i need to modify initramfs (/etc/fstab), are there any references how to do it? thx
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