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#debian IRC Logs for 2013-10-19

---Logopened Sat Oct 19 00:00:10 2013
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00:02<molloy>Can someone try if the program echoping works for him. I get only failures.
00:02<molloy>ups
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00:03<Roach>fully fixed! Reinstalling gnome fixed my issue. I was prompted with the login screen and everything seemed alright
00:04<lamb>Good work!
00:04<Roach>no. thanks to you!
00:04<Roach>everything is fixed down to even the gnome-shell theme I use
00:05<Roach>bleachbit must have freaked out
00:06<Roach>everything is back and fully functional since I reinstalled gnome
00:06<Roach>gnash is back
00:06<Roach>i thought it was odd since iceweasel opened my .swf files instead of gnash
00:07<Roach>glad you helped out lamb
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00:08<Roach>thanks to you guys. You make me even more proud to use linux because you know how to get things done
00:09<Roach>this is a goodbye, not a farewell
00:09<Roach>and thanks again
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01:50<sarge1221>Can someone link me the debian pastebin page?
01:51<Nemoder>!paste
01:51<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>.
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02:00<sarge1221>I'm a bit lost on the difference between ubuntu and debian. I tried installing and setting up apparmor and got a strange response from the system saying I could autoremove a bunch of applications listed here> http://paste.debian.net/hidden/bf561a2c/ Could someone explain? I'm very new to debian and apologize in advance for any ignorance to differences in software setup.
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02:09<sarge1221>Does no one know about apparmor on debian?
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02:35<PaulePanter>Hi. MySQL 5.1.72-2, fixing http://www.debian.org/security/2013/dsa-2780, is not in the security archive!
02:36<PaulePanter>`aptitude update` and `aptitude safe-upgrade` do not show it.
02:36<PaulePanter>http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=sourcenames&keywords=mysql-5.1
02:36<PaulePanter>Who should be contacted about that?
02:37<PaulePanter>`apt-cache policy mysql-server-5.1` also does not list it.
02:37<PaulePanter>http://packages.qa.debian.org/m/mysql-5.1.html
02:38<themill>PaulePanter: #debian-security would be the place to ask
02:40<PaulePanter>themill: Thanks!
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02:49<themill>PaulePanter: you could also interpret this as providing you with an excellent opportunity to upgrade to wheezy :)
02:51<sarge1221>PaulePanter: Don't do it. it is a trap. T_T
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02:54<PaulePanter>themill: Yes, that’s the plan. Though unfortunately, my experience is that it always takes longer than expected as there are going to be subtle problems. So I delay it. ;-)
02:54<PaulePanter>themill: An other advantage would be, that systemd in the DomUs using Squeeze Linux kernel 2.6.32.x would work better as systemd needs a new Linux kernel.
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04:51<troj3n>Hi every one
04:52<troj3n>I am using debian wheezy on my home laptop
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04:52<troj3n>is it required that i need to set up a firewall
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04:56<Natureshadow>troj3n: If it were required, the debian installer would prompt for it. So, why do you think it *might* be required? Of couse, it makes sense in many cases, but what's your idea?
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05:01<babilen>troj3n: You don't need a firewall at all (unless you need it). Keep in mind that a firewall simply blocks certain requests and that nothing has to be blocked if you don't run a particular service in the first place. But then you might want to do something else with a firewall or have actual things you want to do ...
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05:02<babilen>(see my nice tautology at the beginning?)
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05:03<troj3n>my use my debian laptop for home use only.. general Internet surfing and back up system for my files etc. in this case do i need to install a firewall
05:04<Natureshadow>troj3n: 1. i suspect you are behind a NAT router, 2. I guess you do not run unsecure software on your laptop that opens ports, so you most likely do not need a local firewall
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05:05<Natureshadow>(that one got accidentally sent to me in a query, I do not know why ... 10:59 <troj3n> I am using a Internet connection continuously . So i am worried about privacy concerns . but for viruses i dont have to worry since it is linux right
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05:05<Natureshadow>The last part about viruses is plain wrong
05:05<Natureshadow>You have to take as much consideration as in any other system, although the results of that may be different
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05:06<Natureshadow>Furthermore, s/viruses/malware/
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05:06<Natureshadow>Most of the malware you care about in Windows or anything else is not specifically a virus
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05:07<Natureshadow>That said, if you store your router admin password in your browser, you have clearly lost, not matter what OS you are running
05:07<troj3n><natureshadow> I have sent the above lines to you as a query . So pls advice what i need to make sure i am safe in surfing the internet using a debian system. I do my bank transaction over the internet using debian
05:07<Natureshadow>Again, although, browsers in Debian might provide more protection gainst theft of those passwords than those the average Windows users chooses
05:08<troj3n>No i am behind a router which has the username and password stored in itself and not in my browser
05:09<Natureshadow>troj3n: Most of the times, when you are NATed, the danger comes from insecure user software you run. So use a free browser with good security history (Iceweasel CVEs are fixed quite quickly in Debian)
05:09<Natureshadow>E.g., use chromium instead of Chrome ...
05:09<Natureshadow>Do not work as root ...
05:09<troj3n>yeah i am using iceweasal and chromium
05:09<Natureshadow>The security of your system depends on your habits, maybe even more than on the software
05:09<troj3n>yeah i use root only when required
05:10<Natureshadow>read debian-security-announce ...
05:11<Natureshadow>Maybe use Iceweasel's privacy tabs mechanism for your banking
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05:12<Natureshadow>If you keep the good habits, you will most likely be safe. The firewall setup you'd need if you were more paranoid are so strict you wouldn't enjoy the internet anymore :D
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05:12<troj3n>so i have to check the security announcements and then do a aptitude dist-upgrade
05:12<troj3n>right
05:12<Natureshadow>So, a NAT reouter, secure Wifi settings (if any) and good habits are, IMHO, the best tradeoff
05:13<Natureshadow>(as far as i am concerned, I have a permanent VPN tunnel through my own infrastructure, and a long list of firewall rules that prervent any traffic outside the tunnel except for the traffic needed to set it up)
05:13<Natureshadow>But that's not so important for the average home user
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05:14<Natureshadow>Ah, and of course, teh usual disclaimer: If you still find your system compromised, do not blame me :)
05:15<troj3n>ok i understand
05:15*Natureshadow is off for breakfast
05:15<troj3n><nature shadow> thank you for all the advices.
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05:18<Natureshadow>troj3n: you're welcome. next time, don't /query without prior permission; there are guys lurking on IRC who will plainly ignore you for that, if not kickban if you hit the wrong ones ;)
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05:19<troj3n>oh ok. so how should i ask for permission
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05:21<Natureshadow>troj3n: "natureshadow, may I /query you?"
05:21<troj3n>I should right click on the name open dialog window and request for chat??
05:21<Natureshadow>as simple as that ;)
05:21<troj3n>oh ok. thank you
05:22<Natureshadow>troj3n: it's in the rules stated in the /topic of this channel :)
05:24<troj3n>Thanks and out
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05:59<holden87>Hi guys, i would like some help, if possible. I'd like to name my usb drive. Like, when i plug in the USB, it's named 'MyName'. I tried labeling it via Gparted, but the option is greyed out. So i installed ntfsprogs, but that didn't get the option back. Then i tried the mlabel command, but it also said it doesn't recognize the mlabel command. What coul i do? I'm running Wheezy 64bit.
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06:03<babilen>holden87: Look into tune2fs
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06:03<babilen>ah, ntfs
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06:07<MuskRat>morning
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06:08<holden87>babilen: will check it immediately
06:08<holden87>Thanks
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06:15<holden87>babilen: i get this output: tune2fs: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/sdb
06:15<holden87>Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock.
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06:18<babilen>holden87: Yes, I didn't realise that you have an NTFS filesystem. Not sure as I don't use them often, but you might want to look into NTFS specific tool. It might also be that you have to set the label during creation.
06:19<holden87>I don't have an NTFS drive. I have ext4 on Wheezy and fat32 on my USB. sorry for noobish questions :(
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06:35<holden87>babilen: Sorry, found the option within Gparted. I just shouldn't format, but create a new partition, and then i can label it.
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06:38<holden87>But i do have another problem. I downloaded a magnet torrent form TPB, and it opens via deluge-gtk, but then deluge-gtk keeps disappearing. and it seems to be generating some sort of caches in .fontconfig that cause the crash. i delete the .fontconfig, but it keeps reappearing and crashing my deluge. Any help?
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06:41<babilen>holden87: Oh, you naturally don't want to use tune2fs on the disk itself (/dev/sdb) but on a specific partition (e.g. /dev/sdb1)
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06:43<babilen>(or rather filesystem on that partition)
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07:23<Yoda-BZH>just in case, packages.qa.debian.org seems down from here
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07:23<Yoda-BZH>( http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/packages.qa.debian.org )
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08:00<Chiron>Yoda-BZH: machine upgrade
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08:03<barrnet>giorno :)
08:03<barrnet>c'è qualcuno a dare supporto? xD
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08:06<babilen>dpkg: it
08:06<dpkg>Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help.
08:07<barrnet>yep, sorry: I join in the wrong channel xD
08:08<SynrG>barrnet: ok, but when you do join the right channel and ask for support, just ask your question. don't ask if someone is there ...
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08:12<SOUL_OF_R00T>hello guys, nice morning !
08:14<MuskRat>\o
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08:15<SOUL_OF_R00T>i have tried put arduino to work on debian and no success on this task i use gentoo to implement arduino code and python under debian to make some apps for arduino any tip about arduino devel under debian?
08:16<SynrG>beats me. what specific problem are you having?
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08:16<SynrG>,v arduino
08:16<judd>Package: arduino on i386 -- squeeze: 0018+dfsg-6; wheezy: 1:1.0.1+dfsg-7; jessie: 1:1.0.5+dfsg2-1; sid: 1:1.0.5+dfsg2-1; experimental: 1:1.5.4.2+dfsg-2
08:16<SOUL_OF_R00T>the arduino program cannot run correct inside debian
08:17<Natureshadow>SOUL_OF_R00T: works for me. what did you try?
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08:17<SynrG>i asked you to be specific. that's not specific.
08:17<SOUL_OF_R00T>maybe binutils and gcc for avr crossdev not work
08:17<SynrG>!ask
08:17<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
08:17<SOUL_OF_R00T>i write the program for arduino under arduino IDE but the IDE not upload the program to arduino
08:18<SOUL_OF_R00T>various diferent erros
08:18<SynrG>don't speculate about what's wrong. describe to us what you're doing.
08:18<SOUL_OF_R00T>ok
08:18<Airwave>I'm writing an init script and I'm having a little difficulty understanding the start-stop-daemon's "--retry" option.
08:18<SOUL_OF_R00T>excuse i try again and tell the correct erors
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08:19<Airwave>If I want the command to send INT, then if the process is still running after 30 seconds, send HUP, what would I specify as the argument?
08:19<Airwave>"--retry INT/30/HUP/forever"?
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08:20<MuskRat>arduino, arduino-core, .deb's have examples
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08:20<SOUL_OF_R00T>Natureshadow, i am running debian wheezy amd64, maybe the package are diferent ?
08:20<MuskRat>apt-get install arduino arduino-core
08:21<SOUL_OF_R00T>ok i try it
08:21<MuskRat>see exampple ints, code, so on
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08:23<Airwave>MuskRat: Ok, thanks.
08:23<MuskRat>yw
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08:25<MuskRat>no wait, my comments was for SOUL_OF_R00T
08:25<MuskRat>srr
08:26<Airwave>Ok, no problem.
08:26<SOUL_OF_R00T>i am backu my working arduino code and try with debiian , very thanks guys
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08:27<SynrG>i've only ever used the 'schedule' form. works for me. but the man page seems clear enough ...
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08:28<Airwave>SynrG: I'm finding it confusing.
08:28<MuskRat>the arduino deb iis a nice IDE for the job
08:29<SynrG>Airwave: i think you have it right. but 30 seconds is such a long time ...
08:29<Airwave>Ok, I think I figured it out.
08:29<Airwave>Yeah, 30 seconds was just an example.
08:30<birch>Is there really such a big difference in a CD image install with an Internet connection versus without one? I just installed Wheezy current on my netbook and many features are oddly different. There's no option to Shutdown, only to Suspend. The only folder that existed was my basic Home, none of the Documents, Music, Videos, etc. Graphics for screen brightness changes are broken, etc.
08:31<barrnet>For shutdown you can use the command "halt" in the terminal :P
08:31<barrnet>And che directory inside your home you can made it yourself xD
08:31<MuskRat>birch, the cd install has a * laptop selection if you use the gui install from t cd
08:31<SynrG>you know pressing "Alt" key selects shutdown
08:32<MuskRat>which installs "laptop-notebook stuff.
08:32<SynrG>are you really comparing with net vs. without? or are you comparing your squeeze experience with wheezy?
08:32<birch>MuskRat, I had to use Tasksel after the install to select the Laptop options but I haven't noticed a difference
08:32<SynrG>since wheezy, gnome3 is quite different from gnome2
08:32<SOUL_OF_R00T>i back in some min. very thanks guys !
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08:33<Airwave>SynrG: What if I want to try e.g. HUP for 5 seconds, then TERM forever until it quits?
08:34<Airwave>"HUP/5/TERM/forever" is giving me the error "start-stop-daemon: invalid schedule: 'forever' appears last, nothing to repeat"
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08:37<SynrG>Airwave: you didn't specify how long to wait after TERM before looping forever
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08:37<SynrG>TERM/#/forever, i think ... otherwise there's no schedule to repeat
08:37<SynrG>as the error message says
08:37<Airwave>Ah, I see.
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08:39<Airwave>"HUP/5/TERM/10/forever" doesn't work either...
08:39<SOUL_OF_R00T>YOUPIII my arduino works fine very thanks guys i love us hehehehehh
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08:40<SynrG>Airwave: describe "doesn't work"
08:40<SOUL_OF_R00T>i have tried some time ago under squeezy don't work now is easy install this
08:40<Airwave>SynrG: You're right, sorry. I mean it gives me the same error message, i.e., "/sbin/start-stop-daemon: invalid schedule: 'forever' appears last, nothing to repeat".
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08:41<Airwave>Ok, I think I got it.
08:42<Airwave>"HUP/5/forever/TERM/10" would be what I would use, because "forever" means repeat _the rest of_ the schedule forever.
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08:43<SynrG>Airwave: aha. i don't see how i overlooked that
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08:44<Airwave>Well I overlooked it as well. ;-)
08:44<SynrG>it's perfectly obvious now :)
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08:46<Airwave>Yeah. Everything seems so obvious after you get it.
08:46<Airwave>Now I can't believe how I missed it.
08:46<Airwave>Anyway, thanks so much. You've been of great help.
08:46<Airwave>Later.
08:46<SynrG>later
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09:13<alessandro>ciao a tutti
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09:33<grepper>I'm having a problem with fbpanel under xfce4. I'm wondering if anyone using fbpanel here has encountered a problem with the "systemmenu" component of the menu having 2 entries for every item . ? Or perhaps has an idea about this issue.
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09:35<grepper>There is only a few desktop files in ~/.local/share/applications, I've checked all the usual solutions I've found online.
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09:57<Hydrazine>Is there a userfriendly way to put limits on the homedirs of users?
09:58<weasel>quotas?
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09:58<Hydrazine>I've tried using quota's, but it seems that returns rather cryptic error messages for users
09:58<Hydrazine>it doesn't seem to work wel with samba
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09:59<Hydrazine>I was thinking of giving every user a volume with LVM, but that seems a lot of work to solve this problem
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09:59<abrotman>samba has its own mechanism for quotas IIRC
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10:07<jeanlouis>tu veut quoi
10:07<abrotman>english please
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10:08<jeanlouis>tu est français
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10:10<abrotman>!fr
10:10<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr.
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10:13<holden87>hi guys, one noob question. I installed mutliarch support because wine demanded it of me (i need coolbeans nfo creator), and it seems to be installing 265MB od packages. Is this what i'm doing safe?
10:14<holden87>It just feels bit odd.
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10:28<devil>holden87: if you would pastebin us a list of those pqckages, we might know
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10:28<jubodrei>hmz..
10:28<jubodrei>I thought of logging onto freenode
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10:33<holden87>just one more thing. Is there a good nfo file creating tool for linux?
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10:38<abrotman>holden87: a good what?
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10:41<holden87>nfo creator
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10:42<birch>My wheezy install boots to text mode because of a grub variable set to text, where is this variable?
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10:45<birch>nvm i think i found it
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10:51<abrotman>holden87: NFO?
10:52*abrotman is pretty sure it's not Near Field Objects
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11:24<ayaka>is compiz completed removed from debian, I can't find it in any version except squeeze
11:25<abrotman>yes
11:25<abrotman>thankfully
11:26<mtn>ayaka: it is not in wheezy. look at http://packages.debian.org for complete info
11:26<ayaka>mtn, I know that, but not in jessie either
11:26<mtn>ayaka: kde has most if not all of it's "features"
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11:26<ayaka>mtn, I have tried it, but it is a slow and unstable
11:26<abrotman>!compiz
11:26<dpkg>Compiz was a compositing window manager using OpenGL for rendering. Compiz hasn't been developed for some time and is no longer part of Debian (see bugs #719870 and #677864). Plenty of other window managers have the same features as compiz. For a list of available window managers, run «apt-cache showpkg x-window-manager». See also http://wiki.debian.org/Compiz http://www.compiz.org/ or #compiz on irc.freenode.net.
11:27<abrotman>i don't know why we have to have this discussion four times a week
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11:27<ayaka>sorry, I forget to ask dpkg
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11:28<ayaka>well, if I want to compile it but I find the depend files is not all in debian
11:28<jonas-nk>hey
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11:30<mtn>ayaka: odd, kde is not slow and unstable on my machine
11:30<abrotman>ayaka: it's dead upstream, don' tuse it
11:32<ayaka>well, at lease 0.8.4 works well in my home computer, I still has some tusing of it, but I think it is time to get familar with the other one
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11:33<ayaka>mtn, I don't know, maybe I don't familar with kde, but I feel that it is more slow than gtk
11:33<abrotman>then use gnome
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11:34<ayaka>gnome shell looks like bad window 8 and mobile
11:34<ayaka>all program like to to full screen
11:34<abrotman>compiz is still dead ..
11:34<abrotman>and that's not true
11:34<abrotman>gnome3 is more like OSX to be honest, and the apps don't have to be full screen
11:35<ayaka>well, I need to pay some time to learn to use gnome shell
11:35<abrotman>no time like the present
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11:36<ayaka>one good thing of compiz is that it is easy to setting
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11:37<ayaka>actually, I feel OSX looks like kde when I fisrt time install it in vmware
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11:41<TobiX>You can activate many effect in kwin, so it becomes almost as gimmiky as compiz...
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12:06<willtor>Installing (small CD, netinst from USB key) Wheezy: doesn't detect my Intel Corporation Ethernet Connection I217-LM (using e1000e driver on Ubuntu). Selecting e1000e from the drivers list doesn't cause it to detect the hardware. Booting into Ubuntu, the system sees the network.
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12:12<Walex>willtor: perhaps a newer kernel and driver in Ubuntu.
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12:13<birch>how do i check my current wifi driver?
12:13<a_muva>willtor: are you in plugdev group?
12:13<TobiX>willtor: PCI-ID of that card? (lspci -nn)
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12:14<AfterDark>Hi
12:14<AfterDark>Anyone have a favorite email client that's available in the Debian repos?
12:14<a_muva>icedove
12:14<gigix>evolution, icedove, claws-mail
12:14<willtor>Walex: Possibly. Ubuntu kernel is 3.5.0-41-generic. Don't know the version of the driver.
12:14<a_muva>it's same as thunderbird
12:15<gigix>there are plenty
12:15<willtor>a_muva: No. I'm not familiar with that group.
12:15<AfterDark>I used to use Thunderbird, but I wanted to expand my horizons a bit.
12:15<Walex>willtor: try the backported Debian kernel perhaps...
12:15<a_muva>it terminal enter groups
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12:16<a_muva>if not enter user to that group
12:16<willtor>TobiX: 00:19.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Intel Corporation Ethernet Connection I217-LM [8086:153a] (rev 04)
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12:18<TobiX>a_muva: What has the plugdev group to do with Debian's hardware support?
12:18<Walex>birch: it is not terribly easy... 'lsmod' might give you some idea, or 'cat /proc/devices'
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12:19<willtor>Walex: I'll try that. Is that done by downloading a particular kernel and overwriting the one on my USB key? Sorry for the naivety, if that's a silly question.
12:19<raph_ael>hi, lightdm doesn't respect my /etc/default/keyboard, I've looked a bit in /etc withouth finding what to do
12:19<a_muva>willtor: usermod -a -G plugdev user
12:19<raph_ael>(when i had gdm, it was the same)
12:19<a_muva>change user to you user name
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12:20<TobiX>raph_ael: lightdm shouldn't... Your X server on the other hand, should. Is there an /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
12:21<raph_ael>TobiX: there is one, but no layout defined in it
12:21<willtor>a_muva: Done.
12:21<raph_ael>TobiX: i missed to say i use sid
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12:22<TobiX>raph_ael: And your keyboard layout in the login screen is incorrect?
12:22<raph_ael>TobiX: yes it says french
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12:24<a_muva>willtor: restart you computer so you can be added to that group and plug in your usb.
12:25<a_muva>oh and try groups now. see if you have been added to that group
12:25<TobiX>raph_ael: Is the keyboard layout correct if you start X using startx?
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12:25<willtor>a_muva: Rebooted. I'm in plugdev.
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12:26<a_muva>is your usb detected?
12:26<TobiX>raph_ael: Look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log for xkb_layout, what does it say?
12:27<willtor>USB key is detected and mounted.
12:27<a_muva>cool
12:27<raph_ael>TobiX: sorry for the lag, i have a bad connction, if i use startx it has us layout, i have to add a setkbmap in .xsession
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12:29<raph_ael>TobiX: in log, it gives correct layout [ 27.461] (**) Option "xkb_model" "macbook78" [ 27.461] (**) Option "xkb_layout" "fr"
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12:30<TobiX>raph_ael: What kind of session? gnome, kde? And which lightdm greeter? gtk, kde?
12:30<raph_ael>TobiX: and thanks for helpinhg
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12:31<raph_ael>TobiX: probably lightdm-gtk-greeter as it is installed, I log into awesome
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12:35<gigix>TobiX: i use lightdm-gtk-greeter
12:35<gigix>but that depends on your DE though
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12:36<raph_ael>I don't understand why X won't use /etc/default/keyboard
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12:37<TobiX>raph_ael: I wonder why it shows the right in the log, but not in the login manager...
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12:38<raph_ael>TobiX: even with startx it doesn't set the correct keyboard, i have to use a special .xsession
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12:43<willtor>Ubuntu's e1000e driver is v.2.0.0-k. The copyright is 1999-2012, so the driver isn't _very_ new, but it may be newer than the one in the Wheezy netinst img. Reading up on backports.
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12:47<TobiX>willtor: I217 support went into the mainline linux kernel at Date: Thu Apr 19 03:21:47 2012 +0000
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12:47<TobiX>willtor: That is v3.4-rc4-1122-g2fbe452
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12:48<TobiX>willtor: If the change isn't too invasive, it might be possible to backport the hardware support to Debian's kernel
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12:50<willtor>TobiX: That sounds reasonable. Thanks all for your help.
12:52<TobiX>willtor: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=705959
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12:52<Web-aptosid540> have a partition that's not showing up when I plug in my external HDD, yet the other two are
12:52<Web-aptosid540>it shows up under fdisk -l but not ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/
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12:53<TobiX>willtor: Unfortunatly, that bug is open since over a year :(
12:53<TobiX>s/a year/half a year/
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12:54<TobiX>Web-aptosid540: What does "blkid /dev/sd*" say?
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12:55<Web-aptosid540>returns nothing at all
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12:56<willtor>TobiX: Ah, yeah. Good that it's known, though. I'll get an upstream kernel and try with that.
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12:58<TobiX>Web-aptosid540: As root?
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12:58<Web-aptosid540>TobiX: yes, as root
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12:59<TobiX>Web-aptosid540: That's... strange...
12:59<Web-aptosid540>indeed
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13:00<Web-aptosid540>I may just mount it via mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /media/seeker - get the files off then format it
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13:03<Revenge>signori posso una domanda?
13:04<Revenge>.
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13:08<Web-aptosid540>TobiX: I've mounted the partition manuallly and am now copying the files over - thanks anyway for the help :)
13:08<TobiX>willtor: There is Kernel 3.10.11 in backports: http://packages.debian.org/source/stable-backports/linux
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13:18<allen>newbie question: I am doing dist-upgrade after logging into the CLI (no DE installed) and I got an urgency=low warning about browser certificates. The command prompt is now ":", what do I do to continue with the dist-upgrade?
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13:22<allen>anyone know?
13:22<_aeris_>q
13:22<allen>lol ok let me go try
13:23<ompaul>allen: press q
13:23<_aeris_>:D
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13:23<_aeris_>and remove apt-listchanges after that :)
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13:24<allen>that was easy, thanks aeris :D
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13:34<eegiks>is there any way to use dgit for a non-dd?
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13:38<allen>aeris why should i do remove apt-listchanges after dist-upgrade? Just wondering
13:38<_aeris_>to avoid pressing q ? :)
13:39<allen>ohh ok now I get it
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13:39<allen>thanks for the help
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13:40<ayaka>I have dual monitors, I want to show tty in the dvi one , I have know how to it in X with xrandr, but how to do that without X
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13:58<willtor>TobiX: Awesome. I'll try it out, here.
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14:02<stephen>how do I install a package in debian ignoring any missing dependencies?
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14:02<stephen>I want to install every dep I can, but ignore the ones I can't
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14:03<stephen>(yes, I know such a thing is not recommended. I want to do it anyway.)
14:03<eegiks>isn't there a source package you could use?
14:04<stephen>eegiks, there is... I just don't feel like compiling it from source
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14:08<stephen>eegiks, screw it. I removed the offending line and am compiling it now
14:09<stephen>eegiks, thanks :-)
14:09<eegiks>np, the other option would have kept apt complaining forever
14:10<stephen>ok
14:10<stephen>eegiks, yeah, this is why I will never recommend debian testing to anyone ;-)
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14:11<stephen>eegiks, I just want to install fglrx-driver. Is that so much to ask? (just installed testing for the first time)
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14:12<eegiks>idk, I use ubuntu. I hear radeon is getting pretty good with new kernels
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14:14<stephen>eegiks, my first attempt to use debian testing is not going so well
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14:19<Nomastro>hello?
14:20<musca>hello Nomastro
14:20<Nomastro>my question is very easy. I feel little bit like a noob, but I can find the solution on the Internet
14:20<nadir>the first attempt and already "recommind" things? Uhum.
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14:20<Nomastro>well
14:21<Nomastro>some days ago, I dont remember how, I could save a file in /sbin
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14:22<Nomastro>and then, with simple user (not root one) execute by terminal tipynd its name
14:22<Nomastro>i can't remember how i could, now I tray and i only can execute the file by a root terminal
14:22<birch>https://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/546/6wii.png/ why does the default theme break in libreoffice and how can i fix it?
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14:23<musca>Nomastro: chmod +x /sbin/yourfile
14:24<nadir>Nomastro: perhaps you used the full path to the script you copied to /sbin. (And on another note you shouldn't copy scripts there but to /usr/local/sbin or ~/bin or such)
14:24<Nomastro>okay
14:24<Nomastro>i underestan't, just traying now
14:24<nadir>sbin is not in the users PATH, but if you use the full path it might work (i am not that sure, as i never do it)
14:25<musca>oh yes, the user doesn't have /sbin in his path
14:25<nadir>say /sbin/ifconfig would work to a limited degree, thouh in /sbin
14:25<willtor>Yeah, you can still use /sbin stuff as a normal user.
14:25<Nomastro>but with /sbin/myfile
14:25<willtor>... unless it explicitly requires heightened permissions.
14:26<Nomastro>with root i crated the file in /sbin , otherway i haven't good permission
14:26<nadir>what permissions would you need?
14:27<musca>users have "good" permission as in "can't break the system"
14:27<nadir>anyway: cp to /usr/local/sbin (i think) and use chmod
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14:31<Nomastro>no way
14:31<birch>how do i add bookmarks to the filemanager from command line, or how do i open the file manager as root? the only bookmark is for Home and it won't let me add any new ones
14:32<Nomastro>cd exit
14:32<Nomastro>sorry
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14:34<Nomastro>the most extrange thing is that if i get in sbin folder whit a current user and run the filename it works
14:34<Nomastro>but just running it tipyng it name on the terminel it doesn't run
14:35<musca>birch: which filemanager is it?
14:35<Nomastro>all done it by terminal
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14:35<Nomastro>created and change the permissions with terminal
14:36<birch>musca, what's the default in wheezy gnome shell? i managed to add them as bookmarks but they're not under the Computer tab like normal.
14:36<ayaka>I have the same uid in ldap but different name, I can't disable ldap login, I have remove the url in /etc/nscld.conf and /etc/nsswitch.conf , but the id cmd still show my name in ldap name
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14:36<musca>ah the gnome thingy ;)
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14:39<Nomastro>what a hell
14:39<Nomastro>thanks for all
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14:40<musca>birch: it is nautilus
14:40<Nomastro>i was in the wrong folder
14:40<Nomastro>i should save it in /bin
14:40<Nomastro>not in /sbin
14:40<nadir>No
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14:40<nadir>You should save it in ~/bin
14:40<nadir>or /usr/local/bin
14:41<ayaka>I know what is the problem, I need to clean the cache in nscd
14:41<ayaka>thank you
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14:44<ayaka>I can't enter the gnome shell and won't back to fallback mode, it will just show the blue screen of gnome and let me logout , here is the xsession-errors
14:44<ayaka>http://paste.debian.net/59600/
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14:45<Bluesman1991>hy
14:45<khaos>hi i installed my gfx drivers using sgfxi to my testing and after the reboot i was able only to login to gnome fallback and into gnome shell only manually
14:46<Bluesman1991>wao
14:46<khaos>is there a way to restore the gnome-shell? in the login menu is gnome shell not fallback
14:46<gianfranco>Fuga dall'inferno
14:46<gianfranco>
14:47<eegiks>gnome-shell is forcing the fallback before some of the driver support is missing
14:47<Bluesman1991>https://wiki.gnome.org/GnomeShell
14:47<khaos>eegiks i installed it using sgfxi
14:47<Bluesman1991>ciao
14:47<towo`>and that is your culprint
14:47<towo`>installing anything with sgfxi is not supportet
14:47<khaos>hmmm
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14:48<eegiks>yep, if there is a sgfxi support channel this isn't it
14:48<khaos>but if i type gnome-shell --replace i can have my desktop back
14:48<khaos>thats why I am asking here:)
14:48<khaos>ok
14:49<musca> #smxi would be right one to ask
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14:49<khaos>thank you
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14:52<eegiks>I did find this: https://wiki.gnome.org/GnomeShell/DebuggingFallback
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14:53<khaos>thanks eegiks
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14:53<ayaka>my problem is fix https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/401136/cuda-programming-and-performance/could-not-open-the-device-file-dev-nvidiactl/
14:54<ayaka>but the next problem is that how to change shell's bad menu
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14:57<ayaka>I wonder why shell need it as compiz doesn't
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14:59<eegiks>that's three of you complaining about proprietary drivers
15:01<ayaka>eegiks, me?
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15:06<willtor>TobiX: Bam! That did it. Thanks a bunch.
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15:07<neo1691>Has anyone installed debian on an external HDD to save it from Windoze viruses? When you want to cpy movies and games from your friend's pc?
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15:11<MuskRat>hur hur hur
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15:27<Walex>neo1691: how does that save it from MS-Windows viruses? Are you keeping it offline whenever MS-Windows is booted?
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15:30<neo1691>Walex: I had an idea, if i can just live boot linux from my HDD on my friends PC and copy movies and games
15:30<musca>surely wine is capable of running malware, so don't even touch any files from a windows system
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15:42<vortek>what do I need to install to get my laptops touchpad working?
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15:44<devil>nothing
15:44<devil>vortek: is it synaptic?
15:44<vortek>i think thats it
15:44<mmalter>Hi people. I have no sound on my Debian. aplay -l is seeing soundcards in root but not in userland. I guess it's a permission issue but I don't know what does what… Could you please help me with that?
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15:45<devil>vortek: you probably need to edit /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf
15:46<devil>vortek: if you do, move it to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d before doing so
15:46<vortek>ok
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15:46<vortek>thanxs
15:46<devil>vortek: but it should basicaly work ootb
15:46<devil>vortek: if it dioes not work at all, there might be a different reason
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15:47<devil>vortek: does dmesg say anything about synaptic?
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15:48<devil>vortek: and does lspci see it?
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15:49<azam>hello
15:49<vortek>yes dmesg talks about it
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15:50<azam>how are you?
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15:52<vortek>devil, dmesg sees it but lspci doesnt
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15:52<devil>hm, it could be adressed by lsusb, iirc
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15:53<devil>vortek: grep the lines in dmesg and pastebin them please
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15:53<devil>on paste.debian.net
15:53<vortek>thanxs
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15:56<vortek>devel, http://paste.debian.net/59617/
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15:58<devil>that from dmesg?
15:58<vortek>yes
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15:59<vortek>devel, yes
15:59<devil>vortek: you might want to look at https://wiki.debian.org/SynapticsTouchpad
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15:59<vortek>oh wait its working now
15:59<vortek>:)
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16:02<vhann>Hi, I just installed wzdftpd on my Debian server (the soft looks sexy as [insert expletive of choice here]) and I have a question: following the documentation, I get an error trying to modify the 'users' group
16:02<vhann>It seems not to exist
16:02<vhann>And, even after creating it, 'site group list' errors out
16:03<vhann>Even though it is a listed command in 'site group' help
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16:05<Gregor_>When comes jessie??
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16:13<gianfranco>Evangelion Project
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16:20<babilen>Gregor_: It will be frozen on 2013-11-05
16:20<babilen>err
16:20<babilen>Gregor_: It will be frozen on 2014-11-05
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16:26<Arch2Strong>Hey can someone help me fix my wifi problems while installing debian 7?
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16:27<mtn>Arch2Strong: you probably need to install firmware or get a netinstall that has firmware included.
16:28<Arch2Strong>Yeah I am doing the install on my laptop which needs the iwlwifi 6000-4
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16:28<Arch2Strong>But I tried putting it on a usb and it was a no go
16:28<Arch2Strong>Couldn't find it
16:28<Arch2Strong>So I am finishing the install with out it
16:28<Arch2Strong>But how do i install the drivers once I am done?
16:29<mtn>Arch2Strong: download on another machine and move over to the machine that needs it
16:29<Arch2Strong>Right but how do I actually install them? From the ucode format
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16:30<Arch2Strong>Would i just leave them in the tar.gz format and then do a normal or?
16:31<mtn>Arch2Strong: no, you would download the .deb for the firmware and install with the dpkg -i command
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16:31<Arch2Strong>Ok will do
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16:31<Arch2Strong>I just need to find the deb now
16:32<mtn>Arch2Strong: http://packages.debian.org
16:32<bremner>has anyone ever experienced xournal saving files into the wrong directory? I can't figure out if I'm facing a xournal bug, a git-annex bug, or satanic possession.
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16:33<Arch2Strong>Thanks my man. :3
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16:34<babilen>dpkg: tell Arch2Strong -about iwlwifi
16:35<Gregor_>oh
16:35<Gregor_>TOOOO l
16:35<Gregor_>LATE
16:35<babilen>Arch2Strong: What does "lspci -nn|grep -i network" give you? It's perfectly fine to just give me the PCI ID at the end of the line. (alphanumerical identifier in brackets, looks like [abcd:1234])
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16:36<babilen>Gregor_: Too late for what?
16:36<Gregor_>2014-11-5
16:36<Gregor_>is to late
16:36<babilen>Gregor_: How so?
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16:40<babilen>dpkg: tell Gregor_ -about wheezy->jessie
16:40<babilen>Gregor_: Feel free to start tracking it and to help with the development.
16:46<vortek>whats a browser to install firefrox is no longer there?
16:46<vhann>vortek: Iceweasel ESR
16:46<vhann>vortek: http://mozilla.debian.net/
16:47<vortek>thanxs
16:47<vhann>Hi, I'm still fiddling with wzdftpd. The package uses root by default. I am adapting my installation for user wzdftpd but there is a problem:
16:48<devil>never even heard of it
16:48<vhann>I don't see how to chown /var/run/wzdftpd.pid to a new user
16:48<vhann>I'd have to modify the init.d script right?
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16:51<vortek>whats the flash player for iceweasel called flash-nonfree or something?
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16:51<devil>flashplugin-nonfree
16:52<devil>you need contrib in your sources
16:52<vortek>ok
16:52<vortek>thanxs
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17:20<kstar>What should I install to get poppler/PDFDoc.h?
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17:21<eegiks>apt-file search will tell you
17:21<kstar>Okay, will try.
17:21<kstar>Is there an "online" apt-file search that I can use while my index builds?
17:22<patriku>Hi, as i still have not figured out why i can switch between my two graphic cards, I am asking question if anybody know how to set which gpu to use on kernel command line. I have tried to search on that, but have not had any luck. Thanks
17:22<eegiks>packages.debian.org/file:blah iirc
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17:22<devil>patriku: what are your cards?
17:22<patriku>*why i can NOT switch gpu
17:23<kstar>eegiks: Thanks! Worked.
17:23<patriku>devil: one is intel and the other is nvidia
17:23<devil>patriku: are you using bumblebee?
17:24<patriku>devil: no, i am trying luck with switcheroo
17:24<devil>patriku: seems not to work.
17:24<patriku>devil: it worked while ago
17:25<devil>all I know is that bumblebee works in general
17:25<patriku>devil: i could switch between them two without any problem
17:26<patriku>devil: i have to agree with you, because i have tried bumblebee and it worked.
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17:26<devil>so, what is wrong with it?
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17:27<patriku>devil: but i found the way you have to start any application bit awkward. You know, add optirun at the front of every command i want to run. Although i could make an alias for each one I want to take advantage of hw acceleration.
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17:27<devil>patriku: well, can't help ypi with that
17:28<patriku>devil: but bumblebee has an advantage of not forcing you to quit xserver.
17:28<devil>nvidia might work on that in the futute though
17:28<devil>future, even
17:29<patriku>devil: i hope so. ;) anyway do you know what is the option on kernel command line to specify which card to use on boot ?
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17:29<devil>patriku: is there one? all I have is intel cards
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17:30<patriku>devil: well, i hope so. :) I dont know, i think i have seen some option for it, but i can not find it anymore.
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17:31<vhann>What's the usual way, in Debian, to have a daemon write its PID file after it dropped its root privileges?
17:31<patriku>devil: ok, thank you very much for your time and help. The search to be continued i guess. :)
17:32<vhann>That is, should the /var/run/pidfile be chowned to a user specified in /etc/default/?
17:32<devil>yeah, good luck
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18:02<eegiks>write before dropping I expect
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18:05<eegiks>confirmed here: http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-3143/#correct-daemon-behaviour (ignore the bit about backgrounding)
18:06<Pixelz>how do I get past the wheezy installer not accepting ipv6 router announcements and fails completely?
18:06<Pixelz>is it possible to tell it to not use ipv6, or turn on accepting router announcements somehow?
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18:07<anonymous900>hello
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18:56<vexare>hi
18:57<vexare>i've just updated from 7.1 to 7.2 and lm-sensors died
18:57<vexare>the module i'm using, dme1737, fails to load at booting
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18:58<vexare>i can't revert to 7.1, can i?
18:59<mshuler>vexare: anything interesting in /usr/share/doc/lm-sensors/NEWS.Debian.gz
18:59<mshuler>that might give hints about changes you need to be aware of
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19:01<vexare>hmm
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19:04<vhann>eegiks: Thanks for the info
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19:15<mike1>hello
19:15<mike1>please tell me how can I change my password
19:15<mshuler>passwd
19:16<mike1>thank you very much!!
19:16<mshuler>in the future, you can also use: apropos <searchterm>
19:17<mike1>ok!
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19:50<catire>hola
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19:51<not_thingy>hola to you too 7 second dude
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19:53<blackout>Hi, I have troubles to enter my GPG key on https://mentors.debian.net/my I get invalid key
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19:53<blackout>gpg --export --export-options export-minimal --armor keyid gives me nothing exported
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20:18<jned>Hi, I asked this on freenode, but I'm hoping someone here can offer a suggestion, so I apologize for the duplicate post in advance if that helps. You see, I am sending email from my exim system which I have configured as an internet site to my gmail account and its going to spam, I'd like to correct this.
20:20<mshuler>jned: internet site, as in just localhost? are you sending via gmail as a smarthost?
20:20<jned>mshuler, no, as an internet site, so it isn't using gmail as a smarthost
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20:21<Derek82>hello
20:21<mshuler>exim system is just sending to gmail - ok, gotcha, jned
20:21<jned>I setup the domain as one of my apache web server domain(I have mutliple vhosts), and it shows as the system user I am currently logged in as so user@domain.com
20:22<jned>mshuler, I am just using gmail to see the email I sent but it going to spam
20:22<Derek82>hi everybody
20:23<mshuler>jned: you should dig around some various rbl list sites and see where your IP address or range is listed, then start working on that - this is also under the assumption that you are your MTA properly configured, fwd/rev dns, etc.
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20:23<mshuler>I have no email to gmail problems from various servers
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20:24<Derek82>i need some help with downloading packages abnd im using ubuntu 12.04
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20:24<sney>!ubuntuirc Derek82
20:24<dpkg>Derek82: This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server chat.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://chat.freenode.net/ubuntu
20:24<jned>mshuler, seriously, well all I did was run configuration program, did you do more stuff than that, or is my mistake just in that little menu
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20:25<jned>mshuler, like all I did was dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config
20:25<sney>jned: what's the return address on those messages that are going to spam? are they from a fqdn or just something like username@debian?
20:25<Derek82>ok sorry
20:25<mshuler>jned: your host, hostname, reverse DNS, MX records.. yes, you need to do more for it not to trigger spam filters
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20:26<jned>sney, it is fqdn and the user is my system user, so if I login to my server as mike, it is mike@mydomain.com
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20:26<DrZaius>how to retry some downloads that failed during installation? my internet failes sometimes and some fonts failed downloading during the instalaltion
20:26<mshuler>jned: if you really want help, you will need to be specific - what hostname/IP address are we talkign about, post full email headers somewhere, etc...
20:26<jned>www.itsource.pw
20:26<sney>DrZaius: 'apt-get -f install' will generally retry partial upgrades
20:27<sney>upgrads / apt downloads
20:27<jned>I log into my vps as mike, and the emails show up in my gmail spam as from mike@itsource.pw
20:27<mshuler>jned: http://paste.debian.net/59666/
20:27<sney>gmail does let you set filters on messages and include 'never send to spam' as an operation
20:28<jned>sney, yeah, that would work for my own gmail account but what if I want to send other people email, also, they can't hit reply
20:29<mshuler>jned: if you are sending as @itsource.pw the domain has different MX hosts, so yeah, you are sending from a machine other than one of the MX hosts - that is spammalicious
20:30<mshuler>these are the kinds of things spam filters look for, btw..
20:30<jned>mshuler, I don't have an @ Arecord set up eh?
20:30<sney>gmail's filter does learn, though, so repeatedly hitting 'not spam' on those messages can help teach it
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20:31<mshuler>jned: no. you have no PTR record for the reverse DNS on the IP address
20:31<mshuler>that would be up to the IP owner - AKA your hosting provider
20:31<jned>I have a dedicated ip
20:31<mshuler>mkay..
20:31<mshuler>from whom?
20:32<jned>mshuler, oh
20:32<jned>its just leased to me
20:32<mshuler>(I can do the whois, I'm being difficult)
20:32<mshuler>you need to ask your IP provider to configure a proper rDNS entry - a PTR record in their DNS that points the IP to the correct name
20:33<mshuler>look at lani.12.am and it's IP
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20:34<mshuler>v6 address even has the proper PTR returned for the proper name, see?
20:34<jned>mshuler, how do I see that?
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20:35<mshuler>I can send email from that system to any mail host as user@lani.12.am with no issues
20:35<mshuler>host
20:35<mshuler>http://paste.debian.net/59669/
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20:36<mshuler>getting name->IP and IP->name DNS entries straight is the very first step to properly administering an email system
20:36<jned>mshuler, ok, what exactly should I say to my isp?
20:37<mshuler>without those basics, it is a crap shoot on who will spam your message, or not even let you connect at all..
20:37<mshuler>jned: how about "can you configure a PTR DNS entry for my IP address, please?"
20:38<jned>mshuler, ok
20:38<jned>mshuler, thx
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20:39<mshuler>Dear Secure Dragon, ... :)
20:39<william>I am using Debian Jesse and have 2 problems. Is it a bug that nvidia-drivers didn't include what looks to be required nvidia-xconfig? Also whenever I run apt-get install I get a ton of packages that it says I should use auto-remove to remove: http://pastie.org/8415428 Many of these packages seem like they are on my system and I have no reason to remove them, especially not automatically.
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20:40<jned>mshuler, don't hack me please
20:40<mshuler>heh, don't worry.. I have far too little time and zero interest..
20:41<mshuler>the assumption that someone that can look up public information will hack you is a bit naive
20:42<william>Also can't switch to terminal with alt+F1 Not sure if I am supposed to be able to with this desktop. Looks like I should be able to with Gnome but this might be Gnome with Unity.
20:42<mshuler>domain owners, IP owners, DNS authorities - that's all public information
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20:43<mshuler>if it's gnome+unity, william, it ain't Debian
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20:44<william>OOps was trying alt-F and hit alt-F4:)
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20:45<jned>mshuler, thanks for your help
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20:47<jned>mshuler, I added myself to /etc/email-address and now it works, it doesn't go to spam
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20:50<Gregor_>help
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20:50<Gregor_>wanna download torrent with transmission!
20:51<Gregor_>It says file to big. What does that meen ?
20:51<Gregor_>I have enogh free Space!
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20:56<mshuler>jned: cool :)
20:57<jned>mshuler, but I can't receive mail
20:58<mshuler>jned: relevant /var/log/exim4/mainlog entries, please?
20:58<mshuler>http://paste.debian.net/ is your friend..
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21:00<jned>I don't think I have a mail box setup
21:00<Gregor_>Can anyone help me?
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21:01<jned>mshuler, http://paste.debian.net/59673/
21:01<jned>see the mail is being rejected eh?
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21:06<mshuler>jned: did you use 'dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config' and set up itsource.pw as one of the domains, as well as the user sha or an alias for sha?
21:07<mshuler>localhost being the other domain..
21:07<jned>first not second, I am running it again now
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21:09<jned>last time I used Maildir, this time I used mbox, maybe that'll fix it, cause it said most something expect mbox by default, so maybe that was the issue
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21:16<rostam>HI where could I get info on creating kickstart via usb? thx
21:16<mshuler>https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Preseed
21:18<rostam>mshuler, thx for info, unless I have missed it, I can not find any reference on usb install...
21:18<mshuler>read the install manual
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21:21<rostam>thanks
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21:42<Celelibi>Is there an EFI netboot installer?
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22:09<che>anyone know how/what populates the ip routes on bootup? since installing virtualbox it creates a route that pushes 192.168.1.0/24 to a VM, which breaks my lan
22:09<che>so every time I boot my laptop I have to manually delete that route
22:10<che>and I can't find where it comes from or how it gets put there
22:10<vianstak>hola a todos
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22:27<dualbus>vianstak: try #debian-es , this is english only.
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22:42<pxr1209>hey everyone. i love debian but am having frequent dropped wifi connections but it's frustrating because it does not show me as disconnected in the networkmanager panel icon
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22:46<pxr1209>any idea on why that is?
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