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#debian IRC Logs for 2013-11-14

---Logopened Thu Nov 14 00:00:00 2013
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00:15<dalit>how do u use this channel on regular basis, i mean suggest me a good program for such chats
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00:15<dalit>coz its tedious to go via iceweasel
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00:17<LtL>dalit: irssi in a terminal or xchat in a gui. forget using a silly browser for irc
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00:20<awal>i recieve this message every time my Debian Wheezy - kernel 3.2.4 starts: "drm:intel_dsm_platform_mux_info] *ERROR* MUX INFO call failed". Anybody know what that means?
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00:22<LtL>dalit: get irssi from debian repo, need help with it go here, http://irssi.org/
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00:22<dalit>LtL : is it easy to use irssi ?
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00:23<LtL>dalit: it takes a bit to get used to it but it's worth the effort, basically its simple, xchat even easier
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00:24<LtL>dalit: you dont *need* X for irssi which can be handy.
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00:25<dalit>whats X , LtL
00:26<LtL>dalit: the irssi.org site explains config and use very well.. X is Xorg the gui environment.
00:27<LtL>dalit: if you use iceweasel, you're running X
00:27<dalit>ok
00:27<dalit>im going for irssi ...
00:28<LtL>dalit: good choice
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00:29<LtL>dalit: i always install both, but that's up to you.
00:30<ectospasm>dalit: might I suggest weechat, it's easier for beginners, but has all the same features (and then some)
00:30<dalit>LtL : but why, one is not enough for u ?
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00:30<ectospasm>irssi forces you to do a lot of things for yourself, from what I remember
00:30<LtL>dalit: more is better, my mantra. and weechat is excellent also as ectospasm suggests
00:30<ectospasm>weechat comes with some nice features out of the box
00:31<dalit>weechat is also in treminal ?
00:31<dalit>weechat is also in terminal ?
00:31<ectospasm>weechat is ncurses based, so yes, you'll need a terminal emulator or virtual console to use it.
00:31<LtL>dalit: i've never used it but it comes well recommended
00:32*LtL has never used a browser for irc.. ever
00:32<ectospasm>(ncurses is a windowing toolkit for text-only interfaces)
00:32<ectospasm>LtL: I have in a pinch
00:32<ectospasm>In a mega hospital that had uber agressive layer-7 firewall
00:33<ectospasm>...I couldn't maintain a connection to my VPS
00:33<LtL>ectospasm: i've been tempted to try it, someday :)
00:33<LtL>ectospasm: some hospitals block irc ports, the bastards
00:34<ectospasm>well... this was SSH
00:34<ectospasm>and it wasn't just a port thing, that would be too easy
00:35<ectospasm>I connected to my VPS via SSH on port 1194 (OpenVPN port)
00:35<LtL>ectospasm: always nice to have a remote ssh to connect to for sure.
00:35<ectospasm>none of that worked.
00:35<ectospasm>I even tried to tunnel SSH through HTTPS... either I didn't set that up right, or they could see right through it.
00:36<ectospasm>deep packet inspection is what I thought.
00:36<ectospasm>I even changed my wifi MAC to see if they were blocking it just for me
00:36<ectospasm>!ot
00:36<dpkg>#debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day.
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00:43<SamB>ectospasm: darn busybodies!
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00:46<awal>"drm:intel_dsm_platform_mux_info] *ERROR* MUX INFO call failed‏" . any body know what mean this message? I recieve it every time my Debian Wheezy starts. i see it just after grub :)
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00:50<ectospasm>awal: I *think* "drm" is the Direct Rendering Manager for your Intel graphics chipset
00:51<LtL>judd: bug #685108
00:51<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/685108 in src:linux (open): «linux-image-3.2.0-3-amd64: Error message on each boot: [drm:intel_dsm_platform_mux_info] *ERROR* MUX INFO call failed»; severity: normal; opened: 2012-08-16; last modified: 2013-05-27.
00:51<awal>ecctospasm: ok. but what 's this . just kernel message , an issue or what?
00:51<ectospasm>awal: ^
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00:52<awal>ok i go check the bug
00:52<dalit>how do you open weechat
00:52<dalit>i just installed it
00:53<LtL>dalit: type weechat in a terminal/shell i assume
00:53<dalit>but it says command not found
00:57<LtL>dalit: i honestly don't know.. yet
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00:57<dalit>LtL : its ok, im using irssi anyway , as u suggested
00:59<jm_>isn't the command weechat-curses?
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01:00<LtL>jm_: yes, thanks.. weechat-curses
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01:03<shivam>testing irssi
01:03<shivam>LtL : irssi worked
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01:06<LtL>shivam: check out irssi.org for setup stuff, and install the scripts for it too.
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01:09<shivam>LtL : scripts ? what for?
01:10<LtL>shivam: irssi comes with scripts for colors and lots of stuff, you need the package as it probably suggested
01:11<LtL>omg im ot again. /self lart
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01:14<shivam>LtL : how do you quit irssi
01:14<LtL>shivam: /quit
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01:21<dalit>LtL : tons of thanl u's for all help !
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02:07<Guest5557>Hi, can anyone help me install a network printer on ubuntu 13.04 ?
02:07<Guest5557>test
02:08<themill>Guest5557: you want #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net
02:08<Guest5557>I am in that channel, but I think everyone is AFK :/
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03:17<AW3i>save
03:17<AW3i>zzz
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03:22<ceo>hello
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04:29<LPby>[root@wi-backend-parsers1 ~]$ sysctl -a|grep netfilter.nf_conntrack
04:29<LPby>net.netfilter.nf_conntrack_generic_timeout = 600
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05:11<sreedevi>I am trying to fix a minor bug that I have reported, But I don't know the procedures that we should follow while fixing a bug in debian from an ubuntu system, Could any please help me with this?
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05:12<tim>Hi. I installed debian with gnome by accident. I installed xfce, but certain things don't carry over, power settings namely. it won't go to sleep(laptop), or show battery levels
05:12<tim>how do I get those over from gnome to xfce? they work in gnome
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05:19<babilen>tim: Just because they work in Gnome doesn't necessarily mean that that functionality is provided/supported by XFCE. I would: 1. Make sure to have a complete XFCE4 installation (cf. "/msg dpkg install xfce") 2. Check XFCE configuration 3. Consider using systemd as that would take care of, for example, going to sleep on lid close and so on.
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05:20<tim>babilen, thanks
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05:23<babilen>tim: fwiw, the battery levels should be displayed by the xfce4-power-manager applet, but I am not too much of a XFCE expert to walk you through getting that enabled.
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05:23<babilen>tim: It might very well be the case that you don't have that running. How did you install XFCE?
05:24<babilen>tim: Do you have the power manager installed?
05:24<tim>babilen, for the install I went on synaptic, got some xfce packages and installed. I got all the required packages with the xfce4 package
05:25<babilen>"some xfce packages" ? Which ones exactly?
05:25<tim>babilen, I'm installing some more xfce packages now
05:25<babilen>dpkg: install xfce
05:25<dpkg>To install <Xfce> on established systems, ask me about <install x>, then: «aptitude install xfce4 xfce4-goodies» To install using Debian-Installer (if not using Xfce CD-1): from the Installer boot menu, select "Advanced options > Alternative desktop environments > Xfce > Install".
05:25<babilen>tim: You essentially want xfce4 and xfce4-goodies (+ recommends, naturally)
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05:25<babilen>tim: Could you check if you have xfce4-power-manager installed?
05:26<tim>babilen, I don't remember exactly, but it was mostly just little things that I chose myself
05:26<tim>babilen, I am installing xfce goodies and a few other things right now
05:26<tim>babilen, xfce power manager is now installed
05:27<babilen>tim: One thing you should keep in mind for the future is that we typically provide a variety of metapackage to ease the installation of package bundles such as XFCE (Gnome, KDE, ...) and that it makes sense to use those rather than installing various packages manually.
05:27<babilen>tim: So, it is now installed but wasn't before?
05:27<babilen>judd: why xfce4-goodies xfce4-power-manager
05:27<judd>Packages xfce4-goodies and xfce4-power-manager in wheezy/i386 are linked by 1 chains: xfce4-goodies ▷ xfce4-power-manager
05:27<tim>babilen, is there a naming scheme for those?
05:28<babilen>tim: No, there isn't. You don't have to install xfce4-power-manager explicitly for example if you install xfce4-goodies as the latter recommends the former ^^^
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05:29<babilen>tim: I guess that all you were missing was xfce4-goodies fwiw
05:29<tim>babilen, thanks for your help
05:29<tim>I'll switch to xfce and see if everything works
05:30*babilen crosses his fingers
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05:33<tim>I'm on xfce now, battery is shown in the panel. can I uninstall gnome now?
05:33<tim>without losing gnome applications
05:34<babilen>tim: No, that is not possible as "gnome" is mostly just a collection of packages. What do you want to get rid of exactly?
05:34<tim>babilen, I meant the Desktop environment. I'll need some applications, but I don't want to use the gnome DE again, just xfce
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05:35<babilen>tim: I mean you could start by running something like "apt-get --purge autoremove gnome task-gnome-desktop" but that would probably remove more than you want. The "desktop environment" is "gnome-shell", but you will trigger a removal cascade if you purge/remove that as "gnome" (the metapackage installed during the initial installation) depends on it.
05:36<babilen>tim: My recommendation would, however, still be to simply run the first command I gave (you might want to sprinkle in "gnome-shell" and "gnome-session" too, just to make sure) and to explicitly install whatever applications you want later.
05:37<ede>Hi everone.
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05:37<babilen>tim: Please note that XFCE4 comes with it's very own set of applications that you should have installed now (e.g. thunar as filemanager, ristretto as image viewer, ...)
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05:38<tim>babilen, you weren't kidding about the cascade... I'm looking at it on synaptic. I can always reinstall gnome's system monitor later, but what is actually vital for my system?
05:38<tim>none of it?
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05:39<babilen>tim: fwiw, I (and a lot of other people in this channel) are not very familiar with synaptic and I would personally recommend to use apt-get in lieu of it.
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05:40<tim>babilen, ok, I'll try your command
05:40<babilen>tim: Nothing "vital" should ever be deinstalled without asking for explicit permission. But the idea of what constitutes "vital" might differ between you and the system. We wouldn't, for example, consider a graphical system to be vital whereas you might.
05:40<weasel>or apt.
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05:41<tim>babilen, I know how to get a wm from apt, so as long as I can do that, nothing vital is lost
05:42<babilen>tim: As always you should take a careful look at the actions that will be performed before *you* agree to them. This will safe you a lot of pain and us support requests such as "evil apt removed my system!!!11!!¡!" ;)
05:42<babilen>tim: If that is the case you shouldn't run into many problems in this area you cannot solve. :)
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05:43<tim>babilen, good. besides, this little netbook is only used for bedside browsing anyways. I won't go into hysterics if something gets messed up
05:43<tim>so there's room for error
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05:48<tim>I do have another issue though. xmonad doesn't work. I wanted to try it out, but when I log in to a session with it, nothing loads
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05:55<babilen>tim: Are you *sure* that's the case? It might very well be the case that it does, in fact, load, but that simply nothing is displayed in the default configuration. Did you try to actually use it?
05:55<babilen>(e.g. open a terminal, run a command, ...)
05:55<babilen>tim: Please also read /usr/share/doc/xmonad/README.Debian*
05:55<tim>babilen, there was a command to choose applications, but it did nothing
05:56<tim>I'll read that, thanks
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05:59<babilen>tim: I'm simply asking because xmonad does, in its default configuration, not display anything. Try to open a terminal with (IIRC) alt-shift-enter
06:00<tim>will try, thanks
06:00<babilen>tim: I'm using awesome these days, but AFAIK xmonad was working fine in Debian.
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06:51<uxin>what is debian live standard ? is it no gui ?
06:51<musca>uxin: http://www.debian.org/CD/live/
06:52<musca>read about 5 lines of text to find your info.
06:52<uxin>yes thank you. but no graphical environment or ?
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06:57<ixi>Flavors: The live images come in "flavors", four providing the desktop environments GNOME, KDE, LXDE and Xfce, and two text console flavors: rescue and standard.
06:57<ixi>reading is hard, uxin.
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07:07<tasa>hi all
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07:10<rah>does debhelper understand cmake?
07:11<themill>rah: yes (and you probably want #debian-mentors)
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07:18<poomel>hi all
07:19<rah>themill: ok, thanks
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07:44<toabctl>is there a tool to collect the installed packages from a bunch of servers (arround 200) and store the information centralized?
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07:45<ixi>puppet might have such functionality
07:46<ixi>you might also manage to do it with some sort of ssh multiplexer and some hackery
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08:02<fairway>hi. does anyone know if mod_jk works with mod_deflate together on debian?
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08:28<timofonic>ixi: What about capistrano? I never managed to do such big sysadmin, but I heard of it
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08:29<ixi>timofonic I've never heard of such thing, sorry
08:30<ixi>maybe someone else have
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09:09<bremner>I notice the btrfs-tools in wheezy is about a year behind jessie. Does that mean "abandon hope, all ye installing this package" ?
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09:11<petn-randall>bremner: Wheezy is stable, there will be only security updates.
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09:15<bremner>petn-randall: I am aware of the Debian release cycle. The question was whether the packages in wheezy are usable.
09:15<Maulkin>bremner: Yes.
09:16<bremner>cool, thanks.
09:16<Maulkin>Or there'd be an RC bug.
09:16<bremner>well. that seems a bit optimistic ;).
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09:17<TobiX>Personally, I wouldn't use btrfs on stable yet :) (But that's just me)
09:18<petn-randall>TobiX: I agree. Still no fsck ...
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09:19<TobiX>I have an unstable VM with btrfs, but grub2's support for btrfs is still broken...
09:20<bremner>I don't want to use it for root, just snapshots for sbuild
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09:21<petn-randall>btrfs still sucks in certain access patterns, but I'd love to use it for the snapshotting and the RAID0/1/5/6 capabilities built in.
09:21<TobiX>petn-randall: Well, there is "btrfs check" and "btrfs restore"... /s
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09:24*Maulkin woudn't use it, but the package is probably ok
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09:34<Kiranos>old Debian squeeze did it support GPT partition table out of the box?
09:34<Kiranos>on new installatiions
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09:35<Stummi>why would you make a new installation of squeeze?
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09:35<Kiranos>I'm not making one but debugging an issue
09:35<Kiranos>/usr/sbin/grub-setup: warn: This GPT partition label has no BIOS Boot Partition; embedding won't be possible!.
09:35<Kiranos>got that when upgrading debian 6 to debian 7
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09:36<Kiranos>I dont remember debian6 supported GPT so dont know how it got in there in the first place :)
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09:37<Kiranos>The Debian squeeze had a single disk of 6TB partitioned and used one partition as boot
09:37<Kiranos>which I thought needed grub2 and wheezy
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09:43<Guest5592>hi i install the driver ati with fglrx, but dont go very good
09:44<Guest5592>its liek ahv elatency all, i dont see the text is like must to wait like 5 seconds to see it, etc
09:44<Guest5592>this is my xorg.conf http://paste.debian.net/65839/
09:44<Guest5592>is like dont refres the screen
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09:44<babilen>Guest5592: Please read https://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary -- you neither need nor shouldn't use a xorg.conf these days
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09:47<Guest5592>babilen, in "my GPU" y write "ATI?
09:47<Guest5592>iam goin to restart
09:48<babilen>Guest5592: Use the configuration as detailed on https://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary#Configuration -- the "Identifier" could be anything. It really doesn't matter.
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09:48<babilen>Guest5592: Did you install it in the way explained on the wiki?
09:48<babilen>argh, meh
09:48<medicalwei>babilen: hi
09:48*babilen eyes medicalwei
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09:48<medicalwei>babilen: I am wondering if xorg.conf isn't needed with proprietary drivers...
09:49<medicalwei>I know some people don't like it though :3
09:49<po2i>hi
09:49<po2i>hi
09:49<medicalwei>po2i: hi hi (?)
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09:50<babilen>medicalwei: No, a monolithic xorg.conf is not the preferred way. It, naturally, works, but we typically recommend specific files in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ -- See <empty xorg.conf> and <xorg.conf.d> for further details. (/msg dpkg xorg.conf.d)
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09:51<maverick>same problem imposible to fix
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09:51<medicalwei>babilen: I see. so just like fonts.conf.d or source.list.d it is better to put it as files for better management.
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09:52<po2i>what??
09:53<Maulkin>po2i: Do you have a Debian question?
09:54<medicalwei>then I am wondering why nvidia-xconfig generates files in /etc/X11/xorg.conf ... well proprietary thing.
09:54<po2i>iya
09:54<po2i>yes
09:55<Guest5601>Who from here have debian wheezy with ATI drivers working?
09:55<Maulkin>Guest5601: Did you install it in the way explained on the wiki?
09:55<Guest5601>Maulkin, yeah, and i format 8 times folow diferent hows to
09:56<Maulkin>Guest5601: I'm sorry, I'm not sure what you mean - what different how tos did you follow? Did you use the Debian wiki, or something else?
09:56<Maulkin>po2i: ask away then
09:57<medicalwei>Guest5601: what is your amd chip of graphic card?
09:57<po2i>how to reinstall debian
09:57<babilen>medicalwei: We do not recommend using nvidia-xconfig (well, I don't)
09:58<babilen>Guest5601: Where you the one who ran away earlier?
09:58<babilen>*were
09:58<Maulkin>babilen: ack
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09:58<Maulkin>babilen: According to hostmask
09:58<Maulkin>po2i: Get the Debian installer, and install it as usual.
09:59*medicalwei wonders if Guest5601 has the graphic card newer than the repository driver.
09:59<po2i>okey thaks
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09:59<Guest5601>i have the ATI HD 7XXX
09:59<babilen>Guest5601: Did you install the driver as detailed on the wiki page I linked earlier? Which GPU do you have? (what does "lspci -nn|grep -i vga" give you)
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10:00<medicalwei>Guest5601: and what is your debian version?
10:00<Guest5601>and iinstall the fglx-driver, moduleassistant, dkms, i did safe-upgrade, i restar, i write, chamge modofy the xorg.conf
10:00<Guest5601>i did ALL
10:00<Guest5601>i have debian wheezy
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10:01<medicalwei>ok. i guess the driver in debian has no support to this card yet. let me check the repo.
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10:01<babilen>Guest5601: Okay, and what happens now? Are you now using the /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-fglrx.conf and did you remove your /etc/X11/xorg.conf? Could you paste your /var/log/Xorg.0.log to, say, bpaste or refheap.com ?
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10:02<Guest5601>babilen, i dont remove /etc/X11/xorg.conf
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10:02<Guest5601>but i create /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-fglrx.con
10:02<Guest5601>i need to remove the /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
10:03<babilen>Guest5601: Please remove your /etc/X11/xorg.conf in that case. It might be, as medicalwei suspects, that your card is not supported by the fglrx driver in wheezy, but we would have to see your log file or the output of "lspci -nn|grep -i vga"
10:03<babilen>brb
10:04<Guest5601>babilen, 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Thames [Radeon 7500M/7600M Series] [1002:6841]
10:06<Guest5601>i going to reebot
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10:09<medicalwei>I guess no support.
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10:10<medicalwei>there's no support for fglrx 12.3 to mobile AMD 7xxx series.
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10:12<timofonic>medicalwei: Old Radeon?
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10:12<medicalwei>timofonic: HD 7xxxM
10:12<timofonic>Oh, HD, damn model names
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10:12<timofonic>They were short in numbers and reused them, like Intel? :)
10:13<timofonic>numbers and model names
10:13<medicalwei>:3
10:13<medicalwei>ahh wait
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10:14<medicalwei>according to device number I confirmed it is an HD one rather than legacy.
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10:26<Guest5601>well i am trying to isntall with module -assistant the ati driver
10:26<Guest5601>but i cant download fglx-kernel-source
10:27<Guest5601>is not in my repo, what repo have this packet?
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10:34<davek>hi
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10:35<davek>enjoying Debian 7 w/Xfce
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11:02<Stereo>hi everyone
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11:04<Stereo>I'm trying to install http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.2.0/amd64/iso-cd/debian-7.2.0-amd64-netinst.iso in virtualbox, but the install freezes as soon as I hit "Install". I'm not sure how to troubleshoot this.
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11:05<maxy>Stereo: Try with the text only installer
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11:06<Stereo>is that a boot parameter?
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11:08<Stereo>I'm sorry, I can't find how to use text only installations
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11:10<Stereo>aaah
11:10<Stereo>ok, expert install boots, and it says it only found an i686 cpu
11:10<Stereo>which explains why the others freeze :(
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11:12<awal>Stereo: if is i686-pae image i think you must enable pae first in your virtual machine configuration undet systemm ....
11:12<Maulkin>That would probably do it
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11:12<awal>in Vbox
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11:14<Stereo>ah, turns out I needed to tell vbox it was a "Debian (64 bit)" and not a "Debian"
11:14<Stereo>silly vbox
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11:15<awal>i installed Kali-Linux i386 in V.Box in Wheezy. After installation Kali want boot. I just went to kali virtual machine configuration and enabled pae under system and all was fine. Is just a comment :)
11:15<awal>"kali wont boot", sorry
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11:28<decede>anyone know whats going on with alioth.debian.org?
11:28<Maulkin>Yup.
11:28<Maulkin>It's down.
11:29<Maulkin>See http://lists.debian.org/20131111082545.GB27062@varinia.lobefin.net
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11:30<decede>Maulkin: do you know who hosts it?
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11:31<Maulkin>decede: Sysadmin teams - see db.debian.org/machines.cgi
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11:32<weasel>I wonder how decede will parse that answer.
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12:08<petn-randall>awal: The link he gave is amd64, and the VM is i386.
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12:08<nadir>what's the german IRC channel for debian. thanks in advance
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12:10<mgv>dpkg: tell nadir about de
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12:28<constl>Hello, I have a rather old laptop where I've installed wheezy. I'm noticing an initial delay every time i request something from the internet, e.g. a web-page, apt-get update, etc. although i have a very good internet connection. Any tips on how to solve this problem?
12:28<constl>Initially i thought it was DNS problem but other computers in the same home network don't have this lag
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12:30<decede>constl: do they use the same DNS server?
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12:31<constl>decede: The DNS is inherited by the wireless router to all PCs in the network so I assume all use the same
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12:35<trico>try pinging your router, what kind of response times do you get?
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12:42<awal>trying to install KDE on Debian Jessie Gnome. kde-full or kde-standard? Wish you recomend?
12:43<awal>for daily home use:)
12:45<jalalsfs>awal, If it is a laptop, I recommend "kde-plasma-netbook"
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12:45<awal>jalalsfs: yes is laptop
12:46<awal>jalalsfs: why the netbook packet?
12:48<jalalsfs>awal, Because it has minimum of packages and which them suitable with laptops.
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12:48<jalalsfs>awal, https://wiki.debian.org/KDE
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12:48<awal>jalalsfs: ok i see it now in Debian wiki.
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12:53<awal>jalalsfs: do you know if for get wifi working on Kde network-manager-gnome will be started automaticaly or i will have to install the network-manager-kde?
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12:58<csotelo_at_work>hello people.. dumb question-- I have installing virtualwrapper on my debian, and when I do it, on of suggested packages is "python-dev-all" but that package doesnt exist, however python-all-dev is the name of the right package that must be suggested. I work on sid ... is this a busg.. or DO I just contact python team?
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12:59<Maulkin>csotelo_at_work: Try #debian-next
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12:59<csotelo_at_work>Maulkin, thanks
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12:59<shevek>I have two network interfaces which both use dhcp to connect, but only one of them should be used to provide name servers. I'm configuring everything directly from /etc/network/interfaces. I don't see anything in the interfaces man page on how to specify this. Can it be done?
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13:04<valdyn>shevek: see the "request" list in /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf
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13:11<ania>hi anybody can help with ubuntu?
13:11<scientes>!ubuntu
13:11<dpkg>Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>.
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13:13<jalalsfs>awal, I think will work kde network app.
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13:14<sven34>hi, i need some help. i need to install debian etch. the gpg keys for the archive repository are expired. is there a way to totally disable gpg checks?
13:15<awal>jalalsfs: thanks. ok. i'll tell you. going to install kde-net-book...
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13:22<mo1991>!ubuntu
13:22<dpkg>Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>.
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13:24<shevek>valdyn: thanks
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14:01<rostam>Hi accidently I have removed part of a binary pkg installed on my system how can I recover it? thx
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14:02<valdyn>rostam: reinstall that package
14:02<sven34>rostam: you can apt-get install --reinstall the package
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14:03<rostam>thank you
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14:11<awal>installin kde-plasma-netbook i see in terminal "Uknown media type in type 'all/all', Uknown media type in type 'all/all', Uknown media type in type 'uri/mms'....". whats that mean?
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14:18<sven34>awal: i dont know. but it seems not very important
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14:28<awal>sven34: ok. thanks. Debian runs just fine. just trying to understand...
14:28<awal>:)
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15:20<nues>Is it possible to dynamically add values ​​in a preseed file (PXE install)? For example, I want to randomize the root password.
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16:51<nadir>I got this " Configure your PC to the static IP-Address 192.168.178.5/24 and set the default route to 192.168.178.254"
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16:51<nadir>and in the debia wiki: https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration
16:51<nadir>Shall i set "gateway 192.168.178.254" in /etc/network/interfaces ?
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16:53<nadir>and "address 192.168.178.5/24" ?
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16:57<musca>nadir: without the pending "/24"
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16:58<nadir>musca: give me a yes for "192.168.178.5" please
16:58<musca>yes
16:58<nadir>ok. Thanks.
16:58<nadir>gateway and route are interchangable terms?
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17:00<ChibaPet>Does anyone know what package provides the small graphics that Rhythmbox uses for, as an example, the indicator for the currently playing track?
17:01<ChibaPet>I'm about to file a bug report, but if I knew where the stuff was supposed to come from I can save the packager some work.
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17:02<nadir>it might be libnotify-send. It might also be wrong
17:02<musca>nadir: not quite, but having a default gateway creates a default route.
17:03<nadir>musca: ok. I am learning more about it right now, miss a lot of knowledge. Thanks for your help
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18:01<scientes>whats the command to see why dependancies are installed when installing something
18:01<scientes>to see the dependancy graph
18:01<ubuntu_>ubuntu cannel?
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18:01<scientes>!ubuntuirc | ubuntu_
18:01<dpkg>| ubuntu_: This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server chat.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://chat.freenode.net/ubuntu
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18:02<ubuntu_>scientes, thx
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18:11<themill>scientes: aptitude why foo bar; aptitude's -W is handy too
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18:52<_LuCiFeR_>:o
18:52<_LuCiFeR_>bonjour le salon !
18:52<_LuCiFeR_>O_o
18:52<_LuCiFeR_>quel langue doit on parler ici ?
18:53<devil>english only
18:53<_LuCiFeR_>is hot
18:53<_LuCiFeR_>lol
18:53<_LuCiFeR_>euuuu...
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18:53<_LuCiFeR_>what nationality in the room ?
18:53<_LuCiFeR_>O_o
18:53<_LuCiFeR_>sorry for my speak
18:53<esmo>io no parlo english
18:53<_LuCiFeR_>but i'm very bad in english
18:53<devil>_LuCiFeR_: do you have a debian question?
18:54<_LuCiFeR_>okay
18:54<_LuCiFeR_>non , i'm visit !
18:54<_LuCiFeR_>it's new for me
18:54<_LuCiFeR_>:)
18:54<devil>well, this is a support channel, no chitchat
18:54<_LuCiFeR_>is no tchat here ?
18:54<devil>no
18:54<_LuCiFeR_>haaa
18:54<_LuCiFeR_>euuuu
18:54<_LuCiFeR_>what tchat for speek ?
18:55<_LuCiFeR_>in the list please
18:55<_LuCiFeR_>i'm sorry for my wirte
18:55<_LuCiFeR_>:s
18:55<devil>mocows
18:55<LtL>_LuCiFeR_: #moocows is the OFTC Chat channel
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18:56<_LuCiFeR_>thanks very weel LtL
18:56<_LuCiFeR_>:)
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18:56<LtL>_LuCiFeR_: welcome
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18:56<_LuCiFeR_>;)
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19:00<DennisTheTiger>Running Wheezy on a small repurposed box as a print server. TCP/IP failed, I think it's the inbuilt network adapter. I just added a new adapter, and when I ifup, I get no response config'ing as dhcp or static. Cable is known good, configurations are correct - and no response from dhcp server (my router). I've altered /etc/network/interfaces with the correct configurations, alternating between static and dhcp. What did I mis
19:00<DennisTheTiger>s? ==O.o=
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19:04<LtL>DennisTheTiger: wrong driver, mising firmware maybe?
19:05<DennisTheTiger>LtL: I have my doubts on that. I'm reading through the pages right now, it's recognized by udev thus far.
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19:10<HRH_H_Crab>hi, anyone about with hyperthreading mojo?
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19:11<HRH_H_Crab>ive got an AMD A8-3820
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19:11<HRH_H_Crab>looking at cpuinfo cores = siblings so it appears that it isnt "working"
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19:11<HRH_H_Crab>ive got a very light HP bios and im fairly sure that there is no option to enable / disable it there
19:12<HRH_H_Crab>ive got a funny feeling i saw 8 cores under another distro, but im only seeing 4 under debian and im struggling to figure out what might be up.
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19:13<DennisTheTiger>You know, maybe the cable is bad. Imma gonna test something...
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19:18<DennisTheTiger>LtL: It would seem that I had a dumbass attack. The switch that was intended to connect my print server to the rest of the internal network was actually not connected to the rest of the network. PEBKAC.
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19:23<etec>loko
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20:45<Bozza>anybody good with gutenprint?
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21:15<shivam>how to connect my samsung phone to my debian wheeezy
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21:16<docwily>hello
21:16<shivam>how to connect my samsung phone to my debian wheeezy
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21:17<LtL>shivam: grab the airdroid app and control your phone via the web
21:17<shivam>hello docwily
21:18<docwily>do you just want to copy files to your phone?
21:18<shivam>yes docwily
21:19<docwily>which samsung phone is it?
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21:19<shivam>LtL , is airdroid in debian packages?
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21:20<LtL>shivam: no, its in the google play store
21:20<shivam>samsung S duos with android, docwily
21:20<shivam>LtL , any way via USB
21:21<LtL>shivam: i never tried it so i can't say
21:21<shivam>?
21:21<docwily>shivam: in your settings, you should be able to set it to transfer files via usb. debian will mount the SD card in the phone as a volume under file manager
21:21<LtL>shivam: the app is pretty wicked cool tho'
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21:21<shivam>yes, it does so for my NOKIA, but samsung is not respnding
21:22<shivam>LtL : app will require 3G banwidth to do data transfer, i have 2G
21:22<docwily>you may have to enable 'developer mode' on your phone
21:23<shivam>ok lets give it a try , docwiley
21:23<docwily>shivam: I had they same issue with my samsung and connecting it to windows
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21:24<shivam>HOW DID u do then
21:24<shivam> docwiley
21:26<docwily>shivam:SETTINGS>>DEVELOPER>>OPTIONS>>Turn on the USB DEBUGGING.
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21:27<docwily>shivam: need to be plugged in via usb cable
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21:30<docwily>Anyone here familiar with enabling SSL on irdc-hybrid ( Wheezy)
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21:33<shivam>DOCWILEY ; GOT IT
21:33<docwily>shivam: Working?
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21:46<Abbott>what's the difference between the live images and the cd images?
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21:50<willianalbertocruz_>live images you can try Debian without installing it, it runs from the DVD
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21:52<Abbott>thank you
21:52<willianalbertocruz_>you're welcome
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22:29<backbox>hi
22:29<backbox>hi
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22:44<awal>hi.
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22:45<awal>i just installed kde-plasma-netbook. i opened tty1 but now i cant return to kde graphical desktop. i do Ctrl+Alt+F7 but nothing hapen. help please
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22:46<awal>with ctrl alt F7 i get black screen
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22:52<awal>solved with Ctrl+Alt+F9
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22:57<awal>usualy i get my default X session (gnome, xfce, openbox...) in Debian with Ctrl+Alt+F7. why kde is in F9?
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23:10<Abbott>a server can have a static ip outside of the DHCP range, right?
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23:11<chealer>awal: it isn't, in general. you must have started other X sessions before.
23:12<rikjaymzzz>It's crazy how responsive Debian is compared to OS X. I have a live version on a USB 2.0 stick and it's about 10 faster than OS X on USB. It is possibly even faster than OS X installed on the HD of the same machine... crazy.
23:13<rikjaymzzz>I have an old macbook1,1
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23:13<awal>chealer: yeah, i was in gnome-shell, xfce, fluxbox and openbox, and now in kde. so kde is in F9 bcuz i started other session in other tty??
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23:21<awal>chealer: thanks. i ws learning about tty's . i get it now. thanks :)
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23:58<reynaldodalog_>hello guyz
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