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#debian IRC Logs for 2013-11-27

---Logopened Wed Nov 27 00:00:03 2013
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00:29<ross_>I'm suffering slow download bandwith through a wheezy router through the wireless access point, but if I proxy over ssh wirelessly, download bandwidth is 20X faster. Any thoughts on diagnosing this?
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00:33<ross_>It's a home router using isc-dhcp-server and bind9.
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00:36<elemashine>Hello! Please quide me to install 32bit libraries on x86_64 debian mashine
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00:36<elemashine>I have "testing"
00:37<ross_>elemashine: I think you want multiarch https://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/HOWTO
00:38<elemashine>Yes, I need to run i386 on x86_64
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00:39<elemashine>ross_: Thank you!
00:39<ross_>elemashine: no problem, I think it's pretty straight forward.
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00:39<ubuntu>hi
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00:39<Guest7115>hi
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00:44<elemashine>ross_: I never used x86_64 debian with X before. Simple --add-arch... into dpkg can solve all my problems?
00:45<ross_>elemashine: maybe not all your problems, but your multiarch ones probably :-)
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00:48<elemashine>ross_: first time I see humour on distro-support channels. I love debian again now
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00:51<elemashine>Thank you for help and bye! Good day!
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02:12<EmleyMoor>Is there a way to access the storage of a mobile phone like the Sony Xperia Z1 in Debian?
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02:25<EmleyMoor>It uses MTP... mass storage is possible for the memory card, but I don't have one of those yet.
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02:29<EmleyMoor>Is there a good way to modify a package by adding to an existing patch and rebuilding?
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02:30<jm_>maybe mtp-tools or mtpfs can help with MTP
02:30<themill>EmleyMoor: sure -- /msg dpkg package recompile
02:31<jm_>ahh mtpfs is not in wheezy
02:31<EmleyMoor>jm_: It doesn't know the device
02:31<EmleyMoor>And indeed no mtpfs
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02:31<themill>libmtp is quite backportable. Can't say I've ever got it to work, however.
02:32<jm_>EmleyMoor: their page says this -- If you want to be able to hack some more and you're not afraid of C hacking, add an entry for your device's vendor/product ID and a descriptive string to the database in the file src/music-players.h. - so are you good at C? :)
02:33<EmleyMoor>jm_: I'm looking at the existing package. There's already a patch that adds a similar device - I am looking into adding via that.
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02:35<jm_>EmleyMoor: if it's a simple package that doesn't unpack sources before building then it's really simple following /msg dpkg package recompile
02:35<jm_>just apply the patch before building it
02:37<EmleyMoor>This unpacks and adds some patches
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02:55<EmleyMoor>Hmmm... seeing this now...
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02:55<EmleyMoor>http://paste.debian.net/67986/
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02:59<Spock0r>good morning
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04:14<anarchy>hola!!
04:15<wintellect>o/ mornin all
04:15<anarchy>mornig
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04:16<anarchy>thou where I'm living its afternoo
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04:22<nocturnal>in interfaces, the up syntax, what does || true at the end mean? the manual doesn't make sense to me (You can ensure a command never fails by suffixing "|| true".)
04:22<nocturnal>oh does that mean that regardless of the exit code of the command, up always succeeds?
04:22<nocturnal>that seems stupid because then you won't know if the up command failed
04:23<nocturnal>I don't understand what a valid use case would be for that
04:23<nocturnal>just curious, I'm not trying to use the feature I just noticed it and wondered what it meant.
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04:25<themill>yes, that suppresses any errors
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04:26<themill>try "true || echo yay" "false || echo boo"
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05:37<biggenius>Hello
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05:38<biggenius>I want to know, how to install MetaSploit on raring ringtail?
05:38<mgv>dpkg: tell biggenius about ubuntu
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05:38<biggenius>dpkg, Tell me about ubuntu.
05:38<mgv>biggenius: /msg dpkg ubuntu
05:38<biggenius>dpkg, what is ubuntu?
05:38<dpkg>Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>.
05:39<SynrG>to make a long story short ...
05:39<biggenius>oh :P
05:39<biggenius>lol
05:39<SynrG>you're in the wrong channel
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05:39<biggenius>SynrG, So, which channel to join
05:39<SynrG>!ubuntuirc biggenius
05:39<dpkg>biggenius: This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server chat.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://chat.freenode.net/ubuntu
05:39<biggenius>ah
05:39<biggenius>dpkg, sorry mr. bot
05:39<dpkg>biggenius: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
05:40<SynrG>mgv: and please do that next time. it helps avoid the confusion you saw above.
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05:40<mgv>okay, SynrG
05:40<biggenius>SynrG, i am not a pro like you.
05:40<biggenius>Accept my apologies.
05:40<SynrG>people often don't notice the new window opening up with the instructions in it
05:40<SynrG>biggenius: no problemo :)
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07:46<stormy98>quick question, i need to change the grub boot remotley on a server, from default 0 to the 3rd options down, so kernal bah then kernal bah recovery then new kernel, would the default now be 3 or 2? e.g 0, 1, 2 or 1,2,3?
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07:53<jm_>it starts with 0
07:54<jm_>so if I understand you correctly it's 2
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07:54<musca>https://wiki.debian.org/GrubReboot states: To set the first OS (Debian in example) as the default run "grub-set-default 0"
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08:07<SynrG>musca, jm_: also conveniently documented in the info page, section 5.1, GRUB_DEFAULT "... identifies the Nth entry in the generated menu counted from zero ..." but we tend to forget GNUish things are fond of putting all the good stuff in info, where nobody bothers to look :p
08:07<SynrG>sigh
08:08<SynrG>i'll take the rest of my bitching to #debian-offtopic where it belongs
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08:10<jm_>I am used to checking info pages for grub, it has been like that ever since it became gnu project ;)
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08:13<SynrG>yeah
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08:14<SynrG>jm_: after a while, though, following a lot of boilerplate "for the full documentation see blahblah info page" ... that are only an exact copy of the man page ...
08:14<SynrG>it desensitizes a person from ever looking there.
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08:18<musca>i enjoy browsing the documentation with the KDE konqueror browser using urls like man:/grub-reboot and info:/grub or even perldoc:/perlintro
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08:20<jm_>i use dwww for that
08:20<jm_>or just pinfo
08:21<SynrG>even for an expert, though, finding the exact piece of information you need to solve a problem is a lot more often trial-and-error than by any systematic strategy.
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08:22<SynrG>i don't suppose that will ever get better.
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08:22<SynrG>anyway, i said i'd divert this to #d-ot and failed. i'll just shut up now. :)
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08:56<wshanks>I just installed Debian, but it seems like I typed my user password in incorrectly twice because I keep getting "Authorization failed" at the login screen. I hopefully know the root password. Is there a way to reset the password?
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08:56<wshanks>When I restart, some screens flash by too fast for me to read if there is a way to stop in a terminal before the login screen is shown
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08:58<bhuddah>wshanks: use scroll lock.
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08:59<wshanks>Okay, cool, I will try that. Then I should be able to use sudo passwd to reset the password, right?
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09:00<bhuddah>wshanks: of course not.
09:00<brahman>Afternoon, I am trying to install libasound2-plugins:i386 on Debian Jessie. This install is failling due to unmet dependencies, notably on libavcodec54:i386 and libjack-jackd2-0:i386.
09:00<bhuddah>wshanks: you need to boot from a rescue cd or something like that. consult google for help on password reset.
09:00<brahman>Is there a reason why these packages are not available yet in Jessie?
09:01<mju>wshanks: If you know the root password, you can reset the user password.
09:01<mju>Assuming you set a root password on installation.
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09:04<mju>Pressing CTRL + ALT + F1 gives you a terminal login. There you log in with username: root and password your root password.
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09:05<bhuddah>oh for an ordinary user password yes.. root passwd is a little more action :D
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09:17<wshanks>Thanks, guys. CTRL+ALT+F1 plus logging in as root plus passwd allowed me to reset the password and actually login
09:18<mju>Great.
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11:28<boozaa>hello
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11:28<stormy98>musca: thanks for that, sorry for slow reply!
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11:49<CHC_Admin>Hi All, Does anyone know how to add nagios3 plugins to linux mint cinnamon 64-bit. NRPE is working for all commands except check_updates.
11:51<sney>!mint
11:51<dpkg>Linux Mint is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Please use their forums at http://forums.linuxmint.com/ or join #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org for support. Linux Mint is variously based on <Ubuntu> with a "Linux Mint Debian Edition" (LMDE) also available, based on <testing>. See also <based on debian>, <mintppc>.
11:51<CHC_Admin>thx
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12:15<lonewlf2>just a shot in the dark, but has anyone ever run into a logging tool that logs in UTC seconds via a fifo, small little deal, that lets you output just so much to just so many files and also send output to a network logging appliance?
12:15<lonewlf2>I worked with one in the past
12:15<lonewlf2>started with 'm'
12:15<lonewlf2>but I can't remember what it was
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12:15<lonewlf2>giving myself some credit
12:15<lonewlf2>this was > 10 yrs ago
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12:18<SynrG>LoneWlf: anything look familiar if you run: apt-file search bin/m |grep -i log
12:18<LoneWlf>let me try that
12:18<SynrG>(assuming 'log' is a part of the name?)
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12:19<SynrG>also assuming you have apt-file installed and updated :)
12:19<LoneWlf>multilog
12:19<LoneWlf>that
12:19<SynrG>yay :)
12:19<LoneWlf>was an awesome idea
12:19<LoneWlf>good job SynrG
12:19<LoneWlf>:)
12:19<LoneWlf>you have my thanks
12:19<SynrG>np
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12:21<SynrG>probably apt-file supports globbing or regexes ... couldn't be arsed to figure out ;)
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12:22<SynrG>LoneWlf: for bonus points: apt-file search -x bin/m.*log
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12:23<LoneWlf>multilog is indeed it, now if I could remember which part of the scenario sent the files to the network server, I'd be in business
12:23<LoneWlf>seems this thing had more than one moving part
12:23<LoneWlf>joy!
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12:24<SynrG>some pipeline, ya
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12:24<SynrG>well, i know logger has network support
12:26<SynrG>i guess you could do this just with logger and nc ...
12:26*SynrG tries
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12:33<SynrG>LoneWlf: logger claims to support "-n server" but i can't get this to work with nc listening on the default port. everything lands in /var/log/messages locally regardless :P
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12:34<LoneWlf>I'll have to toy with it
12:34<LoneWlf>theoretically multilog will log to multiple logs, one of which could be a pipeline
12:34<LoneWlf>to logger
12:34<LoneWlf>which would send the message logserverbound
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12:34<LoneWlf>filmatleven
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12:34<SynrG>:)
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12:35<SynrG>LoneWlf: would love to hear how it turns out.
12:35<LoneWlf>I'll boot up my server farm when I get some spare cycles
12:35<LoneWlf>tracking a few issues
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12:35<LoneWlf>this one bugged me to the top because I _couldn't_ remember
12:35<LoneWlf>you have been most helpful
12:35<LoneWlf>I'll make sure and tell channel what I do and how I do it
12:36<LoneWlf>maybe even add to blog for google
12:36<LoneWlf>since
12:36<LoneWlf>I can't find this anywhere as yet :P
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13:05<kampmannpeine>just testing
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13:49<RageSith>May i ask if someone would be that nice and assist me in configurating my radeon on 7.0.2?
13:50<RageSith>i already got the driver working but there are some issues which i cant get under control
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13:51<RageSith>after in installed the fgl driver and settings i ran a aticonfig --initial=dual-head
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13:53<RageSith>since then i have 2 seperated screen working. when i turn on the xinerama on the ati control center all my panel items are double on monitor 1 and on monitor 2 there are empty black panel (top and bottom). ive tried to move a window across the screens didnt work either
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13:55<RageSith>i dont know how to get it work properly that xinerama works and all the panels on screen 1 not doubled
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14:00<RageSith>since im not see anyone else talk im not sure if my messages reaches someone. is anyone able to read this?
14:00<gnugr>RageSith:you sure have linux-headers installed? you sure have used debian way for fglrx driver
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14:02<RageSith>i did the way the wiki describes and yes linux header got installed and dkms modules got build automaticly i saw the shell output
14:02<SynrG>"the way" ... please point us at it, as the wiki is full of lots of information
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14:03<SynrG>not all of it correct
14:03<RageSith>am i allwed to post urls?
14:03<SynrG>sure
14:03<RageSith>got it from here: https://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary
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14:04<Kcchouette>hello, I have a problem with my wifi
14:04<Kcchouette>It can't load because of a rfkill
14:04<Kcchouette>Can you help me to unblock it please ?
14:05<SynrG>Kcchouette: some drivers cannot toggle rfkill correctly. can you boot to BIOS configuration screen and toggle it back on there?
14:05<RageSith>i did like the guid said except that i additionaly installed the fglrx-control to get the catalyst control center
14:05<SynrG>RageSith: ok. that about ends my knowledge of the topic, then, as i always use the free radeon driver instead.
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14:05<SynrG>others here may have more to offer
14:05<Kcchouette>SynrG: No I can't :-/, it' on the same computeur, but how can I unblock it ?
14:06<RageSith>does xinerama work there? this is an office box therfore there arent any games or so! it just needs to get setup with my 2 24" displays
14:06<SynrG>Kcchouette: which debian release, and which wifi chipset?
14:07<SynrG>RageSith: the only system i have with radeon is not dual-head
14:07<SynrG>RageSith: all others are nvidia. sorry
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14:08<RageSith>SynrG, nevermind but a great thanks for trying to :)
14:08<SynrG>that being said, you'll get better support for radeon here *if* you can get that to work
14:08<babilen>Kcchouette: Did you try to unblock it with "rfkill" already?
14:08<Kcchouette>SynrG: I use debian testing, and my wifi is Qualcomm Atheros AR9485 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
14:09<SynrG>Kcchouette: at paste.debian.net put the output of "rfkill list"
14:09<Kcchouette>babilen: yes, with rfkill unblock all
14:09<Kcchouette>SynrG: ok
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14:10<SynrG>Kcchouette: when you say you can't toggle it on in the BIOS, that is why? is there no option for enable/disable wireless in the BIOS?
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14:11<Kcchouette>SynrG: no, I don't think, but i can use wifi with the 3.10 kernel (and not with the 3.11)
14:11<Kcchouette>(I am using wifi)
14:11<Kcchouette>SynrG: http://paste.debian.net/68086/
14:11<SynrG>Kcchouette: so maybe just go back to using 3.10 kernel for now? and check the BTS for any bug like this against the kernel, and if not, file one.
14:11<SynrG>Kcchouette: for bonus points, go to bugzilla.kernel.org and see if you can find your bug
14:12<babilen>fwiw, there isn't really a 3.11 package for wheezy anyway
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14:12<SynrG>Kcchouette: anything nasty in dmesg about wlan0 (or phy0?)
14:12<SynrG>babilen: he said testing
14:13<Kcchouette>SynrG: yes, I am using 3.10 kernel ^^ ; I don't understand « anything nasty in dmesg about wlan0 (or phy0?) »
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14:14<SynrG>dmesg | egrep 'phy0|wlan0' | nopaste
14:15<SynrG>Kcchouette: but you say on 3.10 it works
14:15<SynrG>Kcchouette: so on 3.11 it is failing, right? so we need to see that command for 3.11
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14:15<SynrG>but if on 3.11 you have no network ... collect the output to a file, then reacquire network and put it in a paste
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14:16<SynrG>Kcchouette: have i understood the details correctly?
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14:17<Kcchouette>SynrG: yes, but what must I paste ?
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14:17<SynrG>dmesg | egrep 'phy0|wlan0'
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14:21<Kcchouette>SynrG: ok, I try to do it for tomorrow, must I speak to you for the reply ?
14:22<SynrG>no. just address the channel here. summarize the nature of your problem and what we've helped with so far.
14:22<SynrG>it might be me, or might be any other helper
14:22<SynrG>even if i'm here don't count on me to remember your nick or your problem :)
14:22<Kcchouette>Ok, thanks :-)
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14:23<SynrG>Kcchouette: and by the way, help for testing/unstable is on #debian-next ... that is preferred
14:23<SynrG>many of the same helpers here are there, too
14:23<SynrG>(including me)
14:24<Kcchouette>ok
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15:48<prasselpikachu>hey guys
15:49<prasselpikachu>got kind of an awkward problem
15:49<prasselpikachu>i'm setting up a debian server on a dell optiplex sx280
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15:50<prasselpikachu>but it often shows the message "nmi: pci system error (SERR) for reason a1 on CPU 0 \n kernel dazed and confused, but will try to continue"
15:50<prasselpikachu>which either crashes it completely or delays bootup by a minute or two
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15:53<prasselpikachu>also, which is the bigger issue, the NIC (broadcom one, kernelmod tg3) seems to fail somehow
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15:54<prasselpikachu>in the log it even gets an IP, but a minute later the LAN LEDs turn off
15:54<prasselpikachu>also it randomly hexdumps stuff to the console
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15:55<prasselpikachu>(also, I installed the non-free firmware because it was complaining about it missing)
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15:56<prasselpikachu>tips/solutions, anyone?
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15:58<styx-tdo_>prasselpikachu: dual CPU?
15:59<prasselpikachu>dunno exactly, but is there a pentium 4 with more than one core anyway?
15:59<prasselpikachu>or does hyperthreading count as multiple CPUs
15:59<styx-tdo_>nope
15:59<styx-tdo_>my bet is on a hw issue
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15:59<styx-tdo_>did you try memtest86+ ?
16:00<prasselpikachu>no, dont have it bootable
16:00<styx-tdo_>NMI is a non-maskable interrupt.. that is basically bad.
16:00<styx-tdo_>memtest is on some install media; they do have their own boot-CD, IIRC
16:00<prasselpikachu>yeah? even on the netinstall cd? didnt see it on there
16:01<styx-tdo_>normally, when i encounter this, it points either to the MB or the CPU being faulty :/
16:01<prasselpikachu>yeah
16:01<styx-tdo_>prasselpikachu: http://www.memtest.org/#downiso
16:01<styx-tdo_>;)
16:01<prasselpikachu>but the NIC issue, could that be because i installed the firmware stuff? (firmware-linux-nonfree)
16:02<styx-tdo_>in theory.. i'd test: - Memory: memtest
16:02<styx-tdo_>then: prime95 - CPU Test
16:03<prasselpikachu>k
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16:03<prasselpikachu>will do that tomorrow
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16:03<prasselpikachu>well, my first idea WAS swapping RAM, and i did that
16:03<prasselpikachu>but it changed nothing
16:04<prasselpikachu>i even had trouble installing cause of that
16:04<prasselpikachu>after, like, 10-15 runs i did it
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16:05<sney>fwiw, I was able to fix NMI issues on old (10+ year old) hardware by booting with -noapic -nolapic
16:05<prasselpikachu>(one of them was actually the power guy swapping the electricity counter)
16:05<sney>that was with 10+ year old kernels though so don't know if it's relevant here
16:05<prasselpikachu>hm
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16:05<prasselpikachu>i actually know quite less about this computer
16:06<prasselpikachu>it's one of 26 computers from a elementary school
16:06<prasselpikachu>they were donated by a call center
16:06<sney>haha. I like repurposing old junk
16:07<prasselpikachu>well, will try to exclude everything software wise by just swapping the computer with another one
16:07<prasselpikachu>putting the hdd in there
16:07<prasselpikachu>and running it up
16:07<prasselpikachu>funny is these PCs are still used
16:08<prasselpikachu>and i'm the guy earning money by fixing them
16:08<prasselpikachu>everything winderp
16:09<prasselpikachu>the only reason i was allowed to set up a linux server was because windows has a limit of max 10 comps connecting to a share at the same time
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16:09<prasselpikachu>bad when you've got edu software network installed
16:10<sney>definitely, yikews
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16:12<prasselpikachu>should i post some logs tomorrow? (cant ssh into the machine, damn nic)
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16:14<sney>I'd try those kernel parameters
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16:14<styx-tdo_>noapic sounds good, too.. ha.. long time ago ^^
16:15<sney>do I remember right about p3/p4 era SMP often having a really weird PIC?
16:15<zyga>I'm trying to setup a personal git repository by following https://wiki.debian.org/Alioth/Git#Creating_personal_Git_repositories but it is not visible on git.debian.org, do I need to wait for some unspecified amount of time before it becomes visible or is that feature available only to DM/DDs?
16:15<sney>I imagine the latter, but ask in #debian-mentors and they'll know for sure
16:16<zyga>sney: thanks
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16:37<Tron>Hello room i am trying to install a application on debian wheezy and it is called rsmangler i downloaded it from this site http://www.randomstorm.com/rsmangler-security-tool.php i tried to use the deb-installer and i also just extracted the file and tryed to run in terminal that way but have had no luch guys what am i doing wrong
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16:39<sney>you need ruby
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16:39<Tron>i opened synaptic and install ruby and still no luck
16:39<valdyn>Tron: why dont you tell us the error you are getting
16:41<Tron>valdyn whe i extracted the file and double clicked it a diolog box poped up and said run in terminal, run and two other options and i dont remember what the other two buttons said so i clicked run in terminal and the terminal opened and then closed
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16:41<sney>have you tried opening a terminal window first and running it from there?
16:41<valdyn>Tron: run the program directly in a terminal , then you can read the error
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16:42<valdyn>Tron: beside that, the way you are using the program it might work just fine
16:42<valdyn>Tron: except theres no way for you to read the output
16:42<Tron>sney kinda um i a a bit new to linux so i just went into the directory that i extracted it to and typed rsmangler.rb i know that is wrong just dont know as of yet how to open programs from the terminal still learning
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16:43<valdyn>Tron: "./rsmangler.rb"
16:43<Tron>valdyn thank you ill give that a try
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16:44<valdyn>this looks like a very useless program to me
16:44<Tron>i was about to just get the kali linux sources.list and add there sources.list to mine but i was worryed it would mess something up lol
16:44<valdyn>or whats the point of permutations of just less than 10 words
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16:45<Tron>valdyn i didnt really see a sha or md5 sum on that page for the rsmangler do you know of ways to tell if the download is safe never really seen a antivirus etc for linux
16:45<Tron>valdyn i would work for the project i am doing that with the linux program sort
16:45<valdyn>Tron: im not saying its unsafe, its just useless
16:46<Tron>valdyn i know what you ment i was really asking about safe
16:46<valdyn>Tron: an sha or md5 sum does not assure safety
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16:46<Tron>valdyn i am sure just asking other methods
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16:48<Tron>valdyn ./rsmangler worked it is up and running now thanks
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16:56<jerome>test?
16:57<sney>!test
16:57<dpkg>Test failed.
16:57<jerome>:)
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16:59<Eco>!tell Eco about Gnome
17:00<sney>!tell eco about msg the bot
17:01<Eco>Thanks ! :)
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17:25<Cheepie>Hello everyone :)
17:25<Cheepie>Can anybody help with my install problem?
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17:27<sney>Cheepie: ask your question and if anyone knows they may answer
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17:29<Cheepie>I'm currently trying to install Semplice (Debian Sid) and I can not install it.
17:29<Cheepie>I get an error with /var/log/linstaller/linstaller_latest.log.
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17:30<sney>Cheepie: semplice is not supported in #debian. we only support Debian. please go to #semplice on irc.freenode.net
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17:30<Cheepie>thanks sney :)
17:31<stderr_dk>If you want to run Sid (or something based on Sid), I think, you should be prepared to fix problems yourself.
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17:32<sney>(that too - but some of the sid users' clubs have decent enough support networks)
17:33<Cheepie>@stderr_dk I agree with fix problems but some users may need support from more experienced users.
17:33<stderr_dk>Then they probably shouldn't be running unstable...
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17:35<Cheepie>not going to argue on this any further...
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17:35<alumno>ola
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17:36<alumno>olaa
17:36<alumno>ola
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17:36<stderr_dk>alumno: Got a question?
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17:37<stderr_dk>Guess not...
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19:11<OWNSyouAll>SELinux is blocking cron from using sendmail to mail me the output of the cron jobs. Is there anyway I can make it so the selinux policy allows cron to use sendmail?
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19:39<LethysX>sigh
19:39<LethysX>ubuntu help seems to be the only halfway decent grub2 documentation I can find
19:40<LethysX>even the gentoo wiki failed me
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19:41<musca>LethysX: info grub
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19:47<LethysX>info grub still didn't really help, at least for what I was looking to do. Though the info might be buried away somewhere in there
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20:44<OWNSyouAll>LethysX, what are you looking to do with grub2?
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20:54<petn-randall>LethysX: What are you trying to achieve, and what Debian version are you running?
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20:58<LethysX>already figured it out. I wanted to add a kernel boot arg to the newest kernel as a workaround for a bug. Figured out about /etc/grub.d/40_custom
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20:59<LethysX>and missed that I could do it for all linux entries on /etc/default/grub
20:59<petn-randall>LethysX: So you wanted kernel parameters *only* for one kernel, but not others?
20:59<LethysX>and yes, I wanted it only for one kernel
20:59<petn-randall>LethysX: Heh, you should have just asked straight, in here ... :)
20:59<LethysX>probably =P
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21:25<petn-randall>rjsalts: Only output I get from openssl s_client -connect rocketjump.eu:5269 -starttls xmpp -verify 3 -CApath /etc/ssl/certs/ is: CONNECTED(00000003)
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21:28<petn-randall>rjsalts: I'd like to get the trust chain checked and output, and if possible also a list of ciphers the server offered in the handshake.
21:30<rjsalts>petn-randall: That's the S2S stuff, I'll bet money that -starttls xmpp only supports C2S
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21:32<rjsalts>petn-randall: so the tls bit is never started because you need the xmlns='jabber:server' instead of xmlns='jabber:client' in your intro
21:32<petn-randall>rjsalts: Possible. Do you have any other idea how to get that info? https://xmpp.net/ has a nice test page, but apparently checks it differently than ejabberd does.
21:36<rjsalts>petn-randall: I don't know of any tools that do starttls for xmpp S2S
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21:38<petn-randall>rjsalts: Me neither, and sadly even with debug output the ejabberd.log isn't very helpful. Only log entry is: Closing s2s connection: rocketjump.eu <--> draugr.de (unsupported certificate purpose)
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21:40<petn-randall>This is *only with "{s2s_use_starttls, required_trusted}."
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21:40<petn-randall>With "{s2s_use_starttls, required}." it works, which means that there is an error while verify the certs somewhere.
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21:43<rjsalts>http://xmpp.net/result.php?domain=rocketjump.eu&type=server seems to work
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21:55<petn-randall>rjsalts: so does http://xmpp.net/result.php?domain=draugr.de&type=server, yet ejabberd_s2s_in rejects the incoming dialback connection. :(
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22:31<rjsalts>petn-randall: wirshark, with the cert from your end?
22:31<rjsalts>petn-randall: wireshark even
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22:49<daswort>hi i try to install the pencil project but it depends on firefox and i only have iceweasel http://pencil.evolus.vn/Features.html
22:49<daswort>how can i change that? change the dependency string in the deb?
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22:54<zykotick9>daswort: are you jwilliams1 on freenode? or it this a coincedence?
22:54<daswort>no. how did you get the impression? zykotick9
22:55<zykotick9>daswort: both asking about pencil... both with same issure - requires firefox... well, best of luck.
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22:59<daswort>i guess changing the deb would statisfy dpkg and linking /uusr/bin/firefox would make the program happy?!
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23:04<oddy>is this an appropriate place to ask a question?
23:04<zykotick9>oddy: is it debian related?
23:06<oddy>naturally :)
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23:13<oddy>essentially I'm just trying to install gitian, a tool for creating deterministic builds from git sources, but it seems to depend upon vmbuilder, which AFAICT doesn't really exist on debian, as it's an ubuntu-native (they do exist!) tool... though it seems that other distros can install gitian (their docs mention gentoo and even OSX), so I'm trying to figure out how I can do it
23:14<oddy>see the gitian README here: https://github.com/devrandom/gitian-builder
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23:21<daswort>zykotick9~ thanks for your comment. i joined the freenode channel and waited… answer. works now. thanks for your watchfulness
23:21<zykotick9>daswort: nice, glad you got it working
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