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#debian IRC Logs for 2013-12-03

---Logopened Tue Dec 03 00:00:00 2013
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00:02<resmo>hi
00:03<resmo>I am experiencing problems uploading to mentors. Getting a "Upload failed: 403 Forbidden". Is there a problem?
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00:06<chealer>!tell resmo about mentors
00:06<resmo>got a stacktrace while uploading and afterwards Uplaod failed
00:06<resmo>so I wondered if it was uploaded
00:06<SamB>maybe ask in #debian-mentors ?
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01:09<jesth>I got something to say.
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01:09<jesth>Do you guys wanna hear it?
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01:10<jesth>How much wood could a wood chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?
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01:14<jesth>Basically, the answer would be... MyWood. LOL!
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01:14<SamB>!topic
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01:18<jesth>It's kinda slow.
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01:19<apathy_yuyu>testing
01:19<apathy_yuyu>バラ色の夢
01:20<apathy_yuyu>你好吗
01:20<SamB>it turns out I *still* can't read japanese or chinese
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02:16<badbyte>hi people, i have kde installed on my debian system and wanted to add the fileWatcher widget on my desktop. the problem is that it is not locally installed. After googling I found it here: http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Plasma/Plasmoids#File_Watcher the problem is that there is no download link to it. Can someone help
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02:18<jm_>plasma-widgets-addons seems to include it
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02:27<Nexutix>how much cpu should Pulseaudio normally use when nothing is playing?
02:27<valdyn>Nexutix: depends
02:28<Nexutix>valdyn: on?
02:28<valdyn>Nexutix: theres more way to make pulseaudio use cpu time than playback
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02:29<valdyn>Nexutix: like it was at 7-8% now. I killed pavucontrol, now its at 3
02:29<Nexutix>valdyn: oh, ok. mine is normal then around 0.6-2, thanks
02:30<valdyn>Nexutix: mine would probably go down more if I killed iceweasel
02:30<Nexutix>hmm
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02:30<valdyn>nope, stays at 2.7
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02:31<Nexutix>valdyn: i am using kde, so maybe DE-wise it differs
02:31<valdyn>playing back something ina flash video does not even add cpu usage
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02:31<valdyn>Nexutix: it depends on which programs are monitoring volume levels
02:32<Nexutix>hmm
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02:34<valdyn>keep in mind that cpu usage has to scale up as cpu speed is scaled down
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02:48<rmrfchik>any significant differences between swap partition and swap file on ext4?
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02:49<rmrfchik>i have hdd with 70mb/sec with partition enough for swap and 114 mb/sec hdd with ext4.
02:49<jesth>Handled by an external program. It could be enabled in the kernel somewhere.
02:51<jesth>150% on RAM, where it would be properly used for stacks at 3-4 folds.
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03:08<aeaglez>what channel can i join that talk about javascript css3 and html5?
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03:11<diego>Hi, I bought a new laptop and I'm having a lot of problems trying to put debian on it... First, it doesn't have a lan port (just wifi, with non-free drivers) which makes it painful but also, it has UEFI
03:12<diego>I disabled UEFI but the installer won't display my windows partition
03:12<diego>so I cannot partition without destroying windows (which I really need)
03:12<diego>(for work)
03:12<diego>is there any support for UEFI in Debian ?
03:13<jm_>i fail to see how disabling uefi is related to not showing partitions
03:13<jm_>and yes, uefi systems work just fine with debian
03:13<jm_>are you sure you're not using secure boot thing?
03:14<diego>well, if I don't disable UEFI , I cannot boot the usb stick
03:14<diego>disabling UEFI, I see my 128GB disk as all unallocated
03:15<diego>which is a lie (there is a windows partition)
03:15<jm_>what does kernel say about partitions?
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03:17<diego>the installer just shows a disk as free
03:18<jm_>yes I am asking about what kernel thinks
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03:18<diego>how can I know if I cannot install it
03:19<jm_>huh? the kernel is running - how else do you think installer would run?
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03:19<jm_>you can check stuff on tty2
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03:42<jesth>Chips Ahoy!!
03:42<jesth>I ran out.
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03:56<ivanov>hi :)
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04:03<Takis>good morning. I need your help.
04:04<stderr_dk>I'm on my way out, but...
04:04<stderr_dk>!ask
04:04<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
04:04<Takis>i have 4 pcs with debian wheezy and some with Windows xp. I have a printer HP LaserJet P1566 shared from windows machine. All the windows pcs can print but under linux i cant.
04:06<Takis>i can see the printer but when print a test page i see a spool document (in windows pc) but never print :(
04:07<Takis>from python-smbc in printer status i receive this : idle - /usr/lib/cups/filter/hpcups failed
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04:12<Takis>any help?
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04:33<Takis>any help?
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04:36<jesth>Takis: What kind of help do you want?
04:37<Takis>i need help to print to windows shared printer
04:37<Takis>i have 4 pcs with debian wheezy and some with Windows xp. I have a printer HP LaserJet P1566 shared from windows machine. All the windows pcs can print but under linux i cant.
04:37<Takis>i can see the printer but when print a test page i see a spool document (in windows pc) but never print :(
04:37<Takis>from python-smbc in printer status i receive this : idle - /usr/lib/cups/filter/hpcups failed
04:37<jesth>I mean, I can help you "squeeze" it out, but the main goal is to keep it simple.
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04:38<jesth>Ah yes. That's a Windows question on top of a layer with a hardware question.
04:39<jesth>It should be automatic. Double check the drivers or it would be considered off-topic beyond this.
04:39<Takis>try to install latest version of hplip but missing some packages and cant install them :(
04:41<Nexutix>sometimes using aptitude instead of apt-get has helped solved problems for me. try that?
04:41<Nexutix>solve*
04:42<Takis>no i didnt try it. how can try it?
04:42<Nexutix>sudo aptitude install hplip
04:43<Takis>i will try it now
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04:45<Nexutix>Takis: maybe this will help: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/gentoo-87/usr-libexec-cups-filter-hpcups-failed-818393/
04:46<Takis>what is better to install hpcups or hpijs?
04:46<Takis>default suggest me hpcups
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04:47<Nexutix>i have no idea
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04:48<Takis>hpcups give me this: idle - /usr/lib/cups/filter/hpcups failed
04:49<Nexutix>did you checkout the url i pasted above?
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04:50<b3h3m0th>HELP REGISTER
04:51<Takis>hp-setup has not option to connect a printer shared from windows pc
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04:52<Nexutix>i am afraid i cannot help you beyond that
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05:00<sebastien_>bonjour je cherche les raccourcis clavier espagnol merci
05:03<jm_>!fr
05:03<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr.
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05:26<v_evets>Anyone up to help me with a minor ext4 / data loss catastrophe?
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05:29<SynrG>!ask to ask
05:29<dpkg>Don't ask to ask. Don't ask if anybody can help you with x. Just ask! If you're unsure how to phrase your question, ask me about <ask>.
05:30<SynrG>and re "minor catastrophe", my condolences :/
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05:34<v_evets>Right, so: discovered some mangled directory names on my 10TB raid6 / ext4 array
05:34<v_evets>where i expected some 3TB of files & directories
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05:34<v_evets>so, unmounted, fscked
05:34<v_evets>fsck -fn ok
05:35<v_evets>remounted, filesystem tree clean but missing several branches
05:35<v_evets>fsck -n with backup superblock spams my teminal with "Free blocks count wrong for group #"
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05:35<v_evets>any ideas?
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05:36<v_evets>fwiw, testdisk lists the filesystem but only says "filesystem appears damaged"
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05:37<SynrG>beyond me. but lurk and see if anyone else has ideas.
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05:53<v_evets>Must sleep now, will return.
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06:02<Guest7858>can someone tell me which version of linux was used in Debian 3.1
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06:05<stdspace>dnup_1092: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianSarge
06:05<stdspace>kernel : linux 2.4.27 and 2.6.8
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06:06<dnup_1092>stdspace, thanks :)
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06:06<stdspace>No problem.
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06:13<jesth>Anyone want some coffee?
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06:19<skainz>hi, i am currenty looking for DEP12, which is no more listed on http://dep.debian.net/ Could someone point me to where it might have been moved to?
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06:22<apocR>good morning
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06:33<Maulkin>skainz: http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/dep/web/deps/dep12.mdwn
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06:36<skainz>Maulkin, thank you. But dep.debian.net/dep12 used to work and is also mentioned here https://wiki.debian.org/UpstreamMetadata So why is it no more listed on dep.debian.net? Maybe some alioth issue?
06:37<Maulkin>skainz: no idea. I dislike DEPs, you may want to talk to Charles Plessy about it
06:37<skainz>Maulkin, ok. thank you anyway.
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07:45<david89>Hello. My kernel boot line has quiet in it but I'm still seeing alot of text. Am I doing something wrong?
07:47<jm_>what text?
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07:51<vikram>hi...whats up
07:53<petn-randall>Hi vikram, join us on #debian-offtopic if you'd like to chat :)
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08:10<david89>jm_: all the sysvinit text
08:11<jm_>david89: then it's ok
08:11<david89>jm_: no it isn't. I would like it to not show anything
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08:14<ixi>is there a simple command-line tool somewhere in repository that allows to share current directory over http ?
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08:15<jm_>I use cp :)
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08:16<ixi>$other_side is running that other OS
08:16<buff>lol
08:16<bremner>BSD?
08:16<buff>mac?
08:16<buff>Amiga?
08:16<ixi>nah, the one that's not POSIX-compliant
08:17<bremner>oh, solaris.
08:17<ixi>solaris is compliant though
08:18<bremner>anyway...
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08:18<bremner>ixi: can you run a samba server?
08:18<ixi>I can but I think to share over http would be easier
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08:18<bremner>not if you want read/write
08:19<ixi>no, only to download once
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08:19<buff>install nginx or webserver with directory listing and set root www folder?
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08:19<bremner>or set up ~/public_html and drop stuff there
08:20<ixi>I guess I'll have to
08:20<ixi>I was hoping that something like https://metacpan.org/pod/App::HTTPThis was available
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08:20<themill>or pop filezilla portable version on the same usb stick as the putty and vlc portable versions
08:20<buff>so android OS can access it :)
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08:22<mpfusion_>if it's for a one-shot transfer just use netcat
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09:11<ahmed>How risky is pinning testing packages on a stable install?
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09:19<ayaka>I have a network interface whose have both ipv4 and ipv6 address, so how to set it in /etc/network/interfaces
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09:26<lupine>ayaka, you have two iface blocks
09:26<lupine>one for inet, which has most of the config, then one for inet6, which has the address, netmask and gateway for IPv6
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09:26<blast007>ayaka: https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration#Configuring_the_interface_manually (assuming you're doing static assignments for IPv6 as well.. otherwise there are DHCP/SLAAC bits just above that
09:27<ahmed>https://wiki.debian.org/AptPreferences tells me to edit /etc/apt/preferences
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09:27<ahmed>but this file doesn't exist
09:27<ahmed>do I create it?
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09:29<lupine>there's /etc/apt/preferences.d
09:29<lupine>I guess that's the new way now
09:31<ahmed>but that's a directory
09:31<ahmed>and the wiki page already assumes I'm on wheezy it seems
09:32<ahmed>since it used e17 as an example, which is only on Jessie
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09:32<lupine>mm, debian is hot for split configs these days
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09:33*ahmed is confused
09:33<ahmed>;_;
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09:37<babilen>ahmed: Do *not* mix stable with anything but backports. What are you trying to achieve exactly?
09:38<ahmed>I want to install e17
09:39<ahmed>and surprisingly, even the apt-pinning wikipage uses e17 as an example
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09:42<babilen>ahmed: I wouldn't recommend to install e17 on wheezy and backporting it yourself is *a lot* of work as you'll have to backport quite a number of its build-dependencies first. It has been packaged for Debian though and is available in jessie so you might want to consider tracking that. Be aware that jessie is testing and a constantly changing and buggy platform though. (cf. https://wiki.debian.org/DebianUnstable )
09:42<ahmed>You mean moving my whole system to Jessie?
09:43<ahmed>Can't afford that. Bandwidth caps and stuff
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09:44<blast007>ahmed: then perhaps it's in your best interest to not break your entire system and just stick with what is in wheezy?
09:45<ahmed>That's why I asked how risky it is to pin packages, because I don't want to break my system
09:45<ahmed>I take it the answer is "very risky" but what you said
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09:46<babilen>ahmed: Do *not* mix stable with *anything* but backports. That includes mixing it with packages from testing and unstable.
09:47<ahmed>Darn it!
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11:27<raghavendra>how can I install mozilla firefox in debian wheezy 7.2
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11:28<towo`>raghavendra, apt-get install iceweasel
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11:31<zykotick9>raghavendra: if you are interested in updated version(s) of iceweasel, check out mozilla.debian.net
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11:36<mrfree>hi all
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11:37<mrfree>on squeeze I'm tring to install open-vm-tools I can compile modules with "module-assistant auto-install open-vm -i" but on boot the /lib/modules/<kernel_ver>/ directory is completely changed
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11:38<mrfree>is it normal?
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11:38<mrfree>the modules I put in it disappear
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11:40<mrfree>I moved this deb installation from openvz CT to a physical machine
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11:42<SynrG>,v open-vm-tools
11:42<judd>Package: open-vm-tools on i386 -- squeeze/contrib: 1:8.4.2-261024-1; wheezy: 2:8.8.0+2012.05.21-724730-1+nmu2; jessie: 2:9.2.3-1031360-7; sid: 2:9.2.3-1031360-7
11:42<SynrG>on squeeze, seeking support for software from 'contrib', hmmm ...
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11:42<SynrG>you really like the trailing edge that much?
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11:43<SynrG>what prevents you from using the version from main on wheezy instead?
11:44<SynrG>as for what's "normal" for m-a (vs. dkms, which we all use now), beats me ... i hardly remember anymore.
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11:53<mrfree>it was a script used in the OpenVZ containers to empty /lib/modules/<kern_v> dir on stop removing it do the trick /etc/init.d/modules_dep.sh
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11:58<nevan>need help with apache2
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12:05<uso>mee: is there any command to display all available "provides" tags?
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12:10<mgv>uso: aptitude search ~v
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12:13<uso>mgv: so "provides" always have to be virtual packages?
12:14<mgv>uso: yes
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12:36<luigi>ciao
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12:36<luigi>thor
12:37<petn-randall>uso: "provides" isn't really a tag, tags are known as "debtags" and are a different concept.
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13:12<apoc_>hello! How can I deactivate my touchpad, and use to middle mousebotton of my trackpad to scroll? Debian 7.2.0 on a Dell Latitude E6400
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13:17<takis_GR>hello! i need your help to print from debian wheezy to windows xp shared printer!!!
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13:20<ivanoov_>Remove your M$ XP by a Linux debian, use samba to share your printer. well done :)
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13:21<sney>takis_GR, apt-get install task-print-server, then navigate to http://localhost:631/ in a web browser and add your network printer
13:22<takis_GR>i can see the printer from debian. send test page for print. in spool there is 1 page for print but never printing :(
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13:22<sney>try a different driver
13:23<takis_GR>printer is HP LaserJet P1556 and in Wheezy there are 2 drivers (hpcups,hpijs)
13:24<takis_GR>same prob with these drivers :(
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13:29<sney>takis_GR, try these instructions, the hplip page says your printer may need some extra firmware for the driver http://hplipopensource.com/node/309
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13:44<marmoute>Hi, I'm a jessie. I did a dist-upgrade sunday and I can't get any network connection working since then.
13:44<marmoute>Can someon epoint me to the right channel for help ?
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13:47<caravel>marmoute: /j #debian-next
13:47<stderr_dk>marmoute: According to the topic for this channel: testing/unstable: #debian-next
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13:52<centermaq>hi
13:52<sney>hi
13:52<centermaq>how are you?
13:53<sney>I'm fine. do you have a debian question? this is a help channel for debian users
13:54<centermaq>sorry.. I'd'nt have questions...
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14:27<barbara>hi
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14:34<uso>petn-randall: sure, probably there's a better name for the content of the field 'Provides:' in the package description
14:35<uso>mgv: as far as I can see the packages listed under "Provides:' don't always have to be virtual packages
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14:36<uso>example: fpc-2.6.2 provides fpc, fpc is a real package (looks like a metapackage)
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14:37<x3x>any one have the for kali
14:37<x3x>?
14:37<x3x>plezz
14:37<x3x>them ***
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14:42<apoc_>what?
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14:51<apoc_>whats the worst that could happen, if I boot my system with a live gparted, shrink my data partition and add 2GB to my swap partition?
14:51<apoc_>debian wheezy, if relevant.. also have a windows partition
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14:54<bremner>the worst that could happen is losing all data on that disk
14:54<uso>apoc_: ... that you can't boot your system from that disk, mount the filesystems on your disk and read your data?
14:54<uso>how likely that is is a different question
14:55<bremner>agreed.
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14:55<uso>but I always would do a backup before doing something of that kind
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14:57<apoc_>I don't have much data, so a backup would be done quickly. is the operation likely to success? lets change the question.. do I even have to resize my SWAP partition? 4GB RAM, 6GB SWAP Space..?
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14:58<uso>apoc_: depends on what you want to do on that system
14:59<uso>for normal desktop work 6GB swap is more than enough
15:00<uso>if you want e.g. do work on large pitures or do video editing you may need more, but than more RAM would be much better
15:00<apoc_>ok! I don't usually do something that RAM intensive.. I just heard a few days ago on the irc, that it should be double the RAM..
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15:24<pekhipo92>ask.fm/aguijarroxd
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15:33<Vikinger>hello you all
15:34<Vikinger>need to install testing how can i do that ?
15:35<bremner>Vikinger: try #debian-next
15:36<Vikinger>thanks
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15:43<v_evets>Still lurking, anyone had any inspiring thoughts re. my ext4 corruption issue?
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15:44<ITAL0>hello
15:44<ITAL0>all
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15:46<ITAL0>I think there is a bug in wheezy amd64 with vlc , sometimes vlc remain running in background or lock little X windows , I must kill the process from the shell
15:46<ITAL0>anyone have the same problem using vlc player with debian wheezy amd64 ?
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15:48<ITAL0>vlc have other bug with some type of video files, as *.mpg , often reading this files vlc lock and remain excute in backgroud, so I must kill it from the shell ; anyone have encounted this same problem ?
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15:49<ITAL0>I use wheezy 7.2 with gnome 2
15:50<ITAL0>pls anyone had or have the same problem with wheezy amd64 gnome2 using vlc?
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15:51<bremner>!patience
15:51<dpkg>The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available.
15:52<bremner>uh, that was maybe a bit harsher than I meant
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15:52<bremner>ITAL0: hang it there, it takes a while to get an answer
15:52<valdyn>ITAL0: to answer your question you should read the bug reports
15:53*ITAL0 bremner ok, I want only advise for a problem, I'm a little newbie in debian sorry
15:53<wretched_dutchman>Hello, I have a problem setting up a ntp-server. When I send messages to a virtual interface it replies over the public interface. So information isn't routed back properly. Can anyone help me with this?
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15:54<valdyn>wretched_dutchman: how do you think you are sending "to a virtual interface" ?
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15:55<valdyn>wretched_dutchman: its usually not helpful to even think in terms of interfaces where you try to debug routing in my experience
15:55<ITAL0>!patience
15:55<dpkg>The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available.
15:56<wretched_dutchman>I set up an interface with ip x.y.1.1 and a virtual interface with ip x.y.1.2. When I send an ntp-request to x.y.1.2 it replies back via x.y.1.1, so it isn't routed back properly
15:56<dondelelcaro>wretched_dutchman: that's actually the way it's supposed to work
15:56<valdyn>wretched_dutchman: thats not a problem
15:57<dondelelcaro>wretched_dutchman: in general, it's not possible to know which interface a packet came in, and normally you don't care
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15:58<wretched_dutchman>and what about natted environments? there should be some form of state tracking to pass through there, shouldn't there?
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15:59<valdyn>only some protocols require state tracking iirc
16:00<valdyn>and thats indeed done, by specialised kernel modules
16:02<wretched_dutchman>the problem is, I send the request, but I don't seem to receive the response, which is blocked by the nat. Once I request a packet via the main interface it's send back correctly, but as soon as it returns via another ip then the original request it's lost at the router
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16:02<valdyn>wretched_dutchman: this is way to general for me. You having an issue implies that you cannot generalise this problem properly, so dont try, give the details
16:02*ITAL0 where may I post ad adviser for a supposed bug in wheezy ?
16:03<dondelelcaro>wretched_dutchman: IIRC, for ntp, you can probably 'set source-ip', and be OK
16:03<dondelelcaro>wretched_dutchman: otherwise, you'd probably have to do some packet mangling with itpables
16:05-!-___ is now known as DNS
16:06<dondelelcaro>err, actually, you'd probably be better off just having it listen on only that ip address, and hopefully it'll write the packets properly
16:06<valdyn>ITAL0: theres a tool called "reportbug"
16:07<uso>ITAL0: first you should check if the bug is already known, see http://bugs.debian.org/vlc
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16:08*ITAL0 uso ok, I see yhx all
16:08<uso>if not you can you reportbug as valdyn said, prepare as much information as you have how to reproduce the bug
16:08<uso>*you can use
16:08<wretched_dutchman>whell... the problem is I send a request to secondary interface eth0:1 on x.y.1.2 and it replies back through primary interface eth0 on x.y.1.1, which doesn't get routed back properly because it gives problems with tracking modules...
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16:10*ITAL0 uso I see , probably my bug is already know , thx for information ; debig number 1 :-)
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16:11<ITAL0>debian excuse me
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16:14<dondelelcaro>wretched_dutchman: see http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=126582645008661&w=2 and alternatively, you can do via SNAT I believe
16:14<dondelelcaro>wretched_dutchman: but that's a little bit complicated
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16:17<dondelelcaro>wretched_dutchman: but something like iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -s x.y.1.1 -p udp --dport 123 -j SNAT --to x.y.1.2;
16:18<dondelelcaro>or actually, probably even with just iptables -t mangle instead of -t nat;
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16:30<dondelelcaro>wretched_dutchman: please don't use /notice; source routing is generally never done by incoming address unless the server is only bound to one address, since it doesn't normally matter
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16:30<dondelelcaro>wretched_dutchman: it's really only UDP based protocols which cause this sort of problem, and even then it's generally not a big deal
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16:32<dondelelcaro>it's also pretty dang difficult for anything but the application in question to know which destination ip a packet came in on, and normally even that doesn't matter at all.
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16:35<wretched_dutchman>isn't the destination ip saved in the src_addr from recvfrom?
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16:36<wretched_dutchman>which in turn is passed (unmodified, afaik) to the sendto
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16:47<tirsito>Hola
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16:50<v_evets>I shall now ask again, In the hope there's an ext4 guru here somewhere :-)
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16:55<devil_>v_evets: theodore's not here, no :)
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17:11<v_evets>Gah, work always calls in the middle of a sentence
17:12<v_evets>Had some 3TB of files / directories go missing
17:12<v_evets>some mangled directory names, df reports totally wrong
17:12<v_evets>unmounted and fsck -n
17:12<v_evets>reports ok
17:12<v_evets>tree looks clean, but branches missing :-(
17:12<blast007>are there multiple partitions in your setup?
17:13<v_evets>i 10TB mdraid array
17:13<v_evets>md on top of partitions
17:13<v_evets>ext4 on /dev/md3
17:14<v_evets>fsck -n ok, but fsck -n -b <backup superblock> gives a bunch of "Free blocks count wrong for group #21361 (0, counted=32768)." etc.
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17:15<blast007>the full output (and the commands you used) would probably be useful in diagnosing the issue. and is it a Debian Wheezy install?
17:16<blast007>use http://paste.debian.net for the output
17:17<blast007>other things that might prove useful would be the output of 'cat /proc/mdstat', 'df -h', and 'mount'
17:18<v_evets>wheezy, yes
17:19<v_evets>the output of fsck -n -b <backup superblock> is huge...
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17:20<blast007>v_evets: I suppose if there is lines that are fairly similar you could leave them out when posting it to http://paste.debian.net/
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17:21<v_evets>kk, need to trim down ~10MB of text somehow
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17:28<v_evets>1st 50 lines fwiw: http://paste.debian.net/69198/
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17:31<v_evets>mdstat: http://paste.debian.net/69200/
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17:33<v_evets>mount / df: http://paste.debian.net/69201/
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17:36<v_evets>ok, my fsck output is all "Free blocks count wrong for group" & "Inode bitmap differences:"
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17:36<blast007>v_evets: is the missing 3TB of data things that were recently added inside /mnt/archive ?
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17:38<uso>SynrG: your hint for grep-aptavail still was the most useful, apart from the missing xxx:any tags it seems to show the tags for all package versions which are installed or apt would install if requested, that's what I wanted
17:38<v_evets>nope, most are actually older files
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17:39<uso>aptitude search ~v misses the tags from the non-virtual packages (perhaps all meta-packages), which are quite a lot, and my loop over apt-cache is far too slow
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17:40<blast007>v_evets: okay.. my only thought was that maybe the files were written while /dev/md3 wasn't actually mounted to /mnt/archive, so instead if wrote the files to the /dev/disk/by-uuid/cecb8f72-b306-4d24-8fe3-a1b39b01fc1c under the /mnt/archive directory
17:40<blast007>beyond that, I won't be much help, but hopefully someone else can provide some other assistance
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17:41<v_evets>mm, checked that.
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17:42<v_evets>best hang around on here? or is there somewhere more specific to ask these questions?
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17:44<blast007>dunno the best place, really, but I'd say here would be a good place to start.
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17:47<william>Is there a native bitcoin miner?
17:48<william>One thing I found said bitcoind, but that doesn't work for me.
17:49<eugecm_>is it possible to create a sid environment within my debian stable to test sid packages?
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17:50<valdyn>!chroot
17:50<valdyn>!test
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17:50<valdyn>eugecm_: well, the bot is down. Basically you can use debootstrap to set up sid in a directory of your choice
17:51<eugecm_>valdyn: debootstrap, got it :)
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17:53<nikolaaa1>Hi.
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17:53<nikolaaa1>Debian deleted my whole other OS'es help.
17:53<nikolaaa1>On my other laptop.
17:54<nikolaaa1>After installation, its just a blinking white line with black background.
17:54<nikolaaa1>Nothing else happens, help.
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17:54<planetmaker>difficult to help that way :)
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19:00<v_evets>ummm, backup superblocks report last mount / write in May :-( WTF?
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19:01<v_evets>superblock=0: Last mount time: Wed Dec 4 09:13:51 2013
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19:02<v_evets>superblock=32768: Last mount time: Fri May 24 08:22:56 2013
19:02<v_evets>anyone know how this could be?
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19:02<v_evets>or do i mistake the meaning of 'backup superblock'?
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19:20<pabs>I'm trying to remove a file but I get this error (even as root) rm: cannot remove `/var/lib/tripwire/hostname.twd': Operation not permitted
19:20<pabs>any thoughts?
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19:28<abrotman>pabs: lsattr ?
19:28<pabs>---------------- /var/lib/tripwire/hostname.twd
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19:29<themill>rm acts on the directory
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19:30<pabs>aha -----a---------- /var/lib/tripwire
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19:30<pabs>thanks
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21:02<Netsotov>!debian
21:02<dpkg>well, debian is http://www.debian.org. See http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/index.en.html#contents
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22:08<KindOne>Who/where do I annoy to talk about debian packages.. could not see something specific on the wiki
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22:09<abrotman>ask a better question
22:11<KindOne>http://packages.debian.org/jessie/amd64/znc/filelist and http://packages.debian.org/jessie/amd64/znc-extra/filelist
22:11<KindOne>Those should be one package, since they was merged in 1.0 - http://wiki.znc.in/ChangeLog/1.0#No_more_ZNC-Extra -- https://github.com/znc/znc/commit/7ac61474ed3759a63f546c4db55c5a94314dfa0e
22:12<KindOne>that good enough?
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22:15<abrotman>KindOne: the maintainer is free to split packages as they see fit
22:15<abrotman>is there some reason they cannot be two packages?
22:16<KindOne>Because its silly to have to install znc-extra when the modules was moved in with the other modules in the main package
22:17<abrotman>file a bug on the package
22:17<KindOne>You no longer have to use an --enable-extra flag in the ./configure to get those znc-extra modules in 1.0 and newer.
22:17<abrotman>wishlist
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22:19<KindOne>Now, znc-perl / znc-tcl / znc-perl, those are fine to be in some extra package, cause you need to --enable-SOMETHING_HERE to get them, the znc-extra should just be merged into the znc package
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22:19<KindOne>znc-python *
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22:20<abrotman>file a wishlist bug
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22:20<KindOne>link to the bug tracker thingy?
22:20<abrotman>dpkg: tell KindOne about reportbug
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22:23<xpzion7>vsftpd in debian stable sucks !
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22:26<KindOne>So... its a mailing list?
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22:31<abrotman>KindOne: no, it's controlled via email
22:34<KindOne>For the Package: do i put `znc` or `znc-extra` ?
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22:36<abrotman>i'd probably say znc
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