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#debian IRC Logs for 2013-12-19

---Logopened Thu Dec 19 00:00:40 2013
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00:17<DeepBlue> i downloaded virtualbox bit i notice an error message ,http://paste.linuxassist.net/view/fa5f53b4 ,not VB wouldn't start.how to fix this?
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00:30<Kasayarou>I expect to have to deal with some filenames in Shift-JIS; is there anything I need to know about at Debian installation time?
00:30<valdyn>DeepBlue: the error is already fixed right after it shows by building the module(s)
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00:38<DeepBlue>valdyn, i could start it niw,thanx
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02:28<rhsaumt>is there a list of applications that are susceptible to this? http://www.tau.ac.il/~tromer/papers/acoustic-20131218.pdf
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02:28<rhsaumt>I see that gnupg has already been patched and updates pushed to debian repos
02:29<dcraig>maybe in a few days that PDF will load...
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02:31<rhsaumt>dcraig: I am having no problems downloading it, so I don't think that site is ddos'd now
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02:32<wompa>http://www.cs.tau.ac.il/~tromer/acoustic/ summary of the pdf
02:33<rhsaumt>my current understanding is that any application that accepts attacker generated encrypted data (so that the attacker has both plaintext&cyphertext) will be vulnerable unless it uses crypto blinding.
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02:34<rhsaumt>my concern is that somebody could walk next to a server rack and recover private keys without having to open up the box
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03:26<CQ>hello, how can I seee which package version of a package would be installed? apt-cache search just shows the package names...
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03:30<jm_>apt-cache can tell you that
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03:31<ixi>CQ there is a -V option to apt-get
03:31<CQ>just found apt-get show, thanks
03:31<CQ>err, apt-cache show
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03:32<jm_>apt-cache policy gives slightly more info in terms of installed vs. available version
03:33<CQ>another question. I'm running a 3.2.0-4-686-pae kernel, I thought I had installed debian 64 bit... what do I need to do to get to a 64 bit system?
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03:33<CQ>just replace teh kernel, or reinstall?
03:34<jm_>you have two options - install just a 64bit kernel, or convert to amd64 (not trivial)
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03:35<CQ>hm, i thought that I had installed amd64 already...
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03:35<jm_>obviously not
03:35<jm_>dpkg --print-architecture
03:35<dpkg>neo-classical
03:36<CQ>jm_: i386 ... that makes it pretty obvious.
03:36<CQ>what would converting mean? I guess it's more than just a dist-upgrade and reboot?
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03:37<stderr_dk>CQ: A replacement of almost all the packages... :-/
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03:37<jm_>CQ: this is the procedure I used http://users.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/hobbies/debian_arch_up/ , there's also https://wiki.debian.org/Migrate32To64Bit
03:38<CQ>Love teh disclaimers on teh first link ; )
03:40<stderr_dk>It probably shouldn't be "If it eats your firstborn", but "When..."
03:40<jm_>if you have no strong reason to use amd64 release I recommend to stick with i386 and use a 64 bit kernel
03:41<CQ>jm_ why?
03:41<CQ>(besides less risk)
03:41<jm_>CQ: less hassle with non-free crap (flash ...)
03:42<CQ>ok
03:43<jm_>and if you need 64 bit for some tools that's possible with 64bit kernel and multi-arch
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03:47<CQ>so all I should do at this point is install linux-image-amd64 and the headers
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03:49<jm_>yup
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03:50<CQ>I'm thinking about something else: reinstalling the system with a different setup... have a barebones base OS, and then do work in VMs to have separation if a i.e. websurfing VM, etc. kind of like http://qubes-os.org/ does
03:51<CQ>s/if a/of a/
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03:52<CQ>...or even try qubes, they just released http://theinvisiblethings.blogspot.de/2013/12/qubes-r2-beta-3-has-been-released.html
03:52<CQ>what bugs me is that they are RH based and not debian-based...
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05:25<bella>bonjour
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06:09<chrishell>hello, I just discovered that when I open a ssh-session
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06:10<chrishell>I get 3 cascadet ssh-daemons
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06:10<chrishell>and after the third there is my ssh-shell as a child
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06:11<chrishell>pstree: ├─sshd───sshd───sshd───bash
06:12<chrishell>is this normal, why is that constructed that way?
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06:12<jm_>it is normal, ssh's privilege separation feature AFAIK
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06:15<chrishell>:jm_ thanks http://www.citi.umich.edu/u/provos/ssh/privsep.html
06:16<jm_>chrishell: right, good find
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06:42<nicoco>is there a way to disable monitor hotplug/unplug detection ? I'd like my display settings to stay the the same even if I switch off my external monitor
06:42<nicoco>i'm using gnome3 with debian 7.3
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06:48<SynrG>nicoco: probably? but do i know how? ... not a clue :/
06:48<SynrG>i doubt if there is a tidy knob in gnome for it, though
06:48<SynrG>probably requires some hackery
06:50<nicoco>synrg: i'm still googling it, but I don't find anything. I'm quite noobish I must admit
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06:50<SynrG>it's probably gnome-settings-daemon's responsibility
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06:52<SynrG>in ages past ... (circa 2008 from what i can see) gnome-settings-daemon had a separate plugin handling RandR. no clue how current gnome handles it
06:52<SynrG>but maybe these clues will give you something to search for
06:53<SynrG>probably direct examination of the code is the most straightforward way to find out
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06:53<nicoco>synrg: thanks, unfortunately I'm not skilled enough for that
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06:55<live>anyone around ?
06:55<SynrG>nicoco: no idea if this helps, but at extensions.gnome.org, maybe "Display Profile Manager" helps?
06:55<SynrG>i cannot vouch for this, not having tried it myself :)
06:56<nicoco>I can avoid using gnome, this machine just needs to run xbmc and it can be launched without gnome, It's just that the screen resolution settings inside xbmc-standalone don't work
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06:56<nicoco>I should probably write a xorg.conf file
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06:56<SynrG>nicoco: that extension *probably* requires current gnome, i.e. not the one in wheezy, though
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06:57<nicoco>synrg: i'll try the xorg.conf way, it looks "cleaner" anyway
06:57<SynrG>yeah
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06:57<SynrG>or else when your WM executes autostart scripts, just do xrandr
06:58<nicoco>problem is that it crashes xbmc
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06:58<SynrG>well, obviously execute xrandr before xbmc :)
06:59<SynrG>and if it's a single-purpose machine only running xbmc, definitely ditch gnome
06:59<SynrG>use a simple WM (openbox or so)
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07:00<nicoco>i'd like to keep xbmc launched all the time on this computer, even when the TV screen is switched off, I don't even need a WM, i can launch xbmc straight from gdm, problem is, it won't change resolution to 1280x720 nor switch off the laptop's main screen
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07:01<SynrG>nicoco: ah. why gdm? that drags in buttloads of gnome deps ... lightdm perhaps?
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07:03<SynrG>nicoco: oh, i see. gdm has its own "special" setup for xbmc
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07:04<nicoco>synrg: well I just chose "desktop environment" during install because I'm a noob as I said ;)
07:04<SynrG>but none of that is any different from executing a script of your own that does nothing but:
07:04<SynrG>1. execute xrandr to set it the way you want
07:04<SynrG>2. launches xbmc
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07:08<nicoco>synrg: is there a way to easily deduce what arguments I should use with xrandr using the working gnome settings ?
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07:12<nicoco>I'm worried about breaking something if I use xrandr :(
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07:12<jm_>xrandr -q should show you current mode
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07:13<nicoco>jm_ thanks
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07:14<jm_>so you basically want lower resolution than what X auto-selects?
07:15<dzan>hi, when I do adduser it asks me for a Kerberos password... I thought I removed all of that but can't seem to get rid of it, anyone knows the issue?
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07:16<nicoco>jm_ : not at all, I want higher. It autoselects 640x480 and uses my laptop's screen, and I want 1280x720 on my HDMI output, and laptop's screen turned off
07:16<dzan>already did this: http://serverfault.com/questions/247580/disable-kerberos-password
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07:17<jm_>nicoco: right, other options would be xorg.conf snippet
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07:19<nicoco>jm_: is it any better than using xorg.conf directly ?
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07:21<jm_>nicoco: it's the same but you don't need full xorg.conf, just enough to do what you want and leave the rest to auto-detect
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08:48<darokthar>As of today the kwallet plugin for firefox crashes regularly. Has anyone else the same problem? I'm running jessie.
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08:50<blast007>darokthar: testing/unstable support is at #debian-next
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08:50<darokthar>blast007 thx
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09:07<byknine>when will the new stable live imgs be available?
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09:30<byknine>abrotman: ah, right
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10:51<ondra>ahoj
10:51<ondra>hello
10:51<Poenikatu>ondra: Hi
10:51<ondra>where are you from?
10:51<Poenikatu>ondra: Which system are you using?
10:51<ondra>XUBUNTU
10:52<ondra>and you?
10:52<Poenikatu>Debian GNU/Linux sid
10:52<ondra>are you programmer?
10:52<Poenikatu>ondra: Yes, actually, but currently learning a new, for me, language
10:53<ondra>you programming in JAVA?
10:53<Poenikatu>No
10:53<ondra>Python?
10:53<Poenikatu>No
10:53<ondra>bash?
10:53<Poenikatu>Not if I can help it
10:53<mtn>guys general chat should be in #debian-offtopic
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10:54<Poenikatu>mtn: Too right.
10:54<ondra>in what you programming?
10:54<Poenikatu>ondra: Common Lisp
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10:55<ondra>can you help me with linux?
10:55<CQ>Poenikatu oh, you are a LISP bot, cool!
10:55<Poenikatu>ondra: Maybe. What's your problem?
10:56<Poenikatu>CQ: Just learning at present.
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10:56<ondra>i have got xubuntu and i am not see images
10:57<Poenikatu>ondra: In what way? Which program?
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10:57<ondra>in desktop
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10:58<ondra>bye
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11:41<markdd>[Question] is it possible that a change of the wifi channel can conflict with my linux laptop and not connect to the wifi?
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11:45<petn-randall>markdd: Not really. The only case I can imagine it if you run your AP in channel 14 (which is only allowed in Japan IIRC), and your laptop wifi disallows it.
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11:46<holden87>hi guys, i need help with Wheezy Xfce. How can i get a volume indicator in the panel, so i can control the volume from there? Like a volume icon up there which i can scroll over to turn up or turn down the volume
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11:47<petn-randall>holden87: right click on the panel, then panel → Add new items → pick "audio mixer"
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11:48<holden87>petn-randall: i did that, though i don't have a audio mixer option, but only mixer. but scrolling it does nothing, it shows as though i'm turning volume up and down, but does nothing. when i click it, it opens a new window with a mixer. and in there i have to manually set the volume...
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11:49<petn-randall>holden87: Maybe your default mixer isn't set properly. Check the preferences of that little application.
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11:50<mpfusion__>I'm getting the warning 'pam_close_session: No module specific data is present'. Why? and how to mute that message?
11:51<mpfusion__>I get that message when I use su
11:51<mpfusion__>e.g. 'su -s /bin/sh -c ls nobody'
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11:51<holden87>petn-randall: when i check it in dconf editor it says it's xfce4-mixer-plugin
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11:52<petn-randall>mpfusion__: You get that on the console or in auth.log?
11:53<mpfusion__>petn-randall: in auth.log, on the console I get: 'su: No module specific data is present'
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11:58<markdd>petn-randall, that was my guess too, but there is no other explanation
11:59<markdd>i changed my wifi channel on the ap and now i cant connect to it
11:59<markdd>with multiple machines
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12:00<petn-randall>markdd: Are you sure your AP is even up and running?
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12:01<markdd>not 100%
12:01<that_guy>anyone in here use logstash? how good/bad is it?
12:01<markdd>but i had connection
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12:01<markdd>and then it disconnected
12:01<petn-randall>markdd: with 'iwlist <interface> scan' you have a low-level tool to check for that. Run it as root, and <interface> is usually wlan0.
12:01<markdd>petn-randall, it should be
12:02<petn-randall>markdd: If your AP shows up, it might be a config problem.
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12:02<markdd>i can see my ap in the wifi list
12:02<markdd>and my configuration was ok before that
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12:05<markdd>it doesnt show up now.
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12:05<markdd>its not connected with the cable though, just powered on
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12:06<markdd>and its visible to the networkmanages wifi list
12:06<markdd>but not visible in the iwlist scan
12:06<petn-randall>markdd: Wait. Where can you see it, and where doesn't it show up now?
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12:06<petn-randall>markdd: network-manager may be caching the result.
12:06<markdd>i can see in the network manager
12:07<markdd>i can check with tablet :P
12:07<petn-randall>markdd: If in doubt, trust the output of iwlist scan.
12:07<markdd>if i close and open the wireless on the laptop wouldnt that list be fresh?
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12:08<petn-randall>markdd: It should, yes.
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12:09<markdd>yes, its not visible either
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12:09<petn-randall>markdd: Then you need to debug your AP :)
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12:10<markdd>maybe you are right
12:10<markdd>:/
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12:11<markdd>but again the ap isnt connected to the ethernet cable
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12:11<markdd>so is only trasmitting its own wifi
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12:12<markdd>im gonna check again later with the cable and see
12:12<markdd>thanx
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12:14<markdd>bye
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13:13<chavakiah>bonsoir tout le monde
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13:28<holden87>guys, one more problem with xfce. Whenever i try to rightclick a folder in thunar, the menu shows and instantly disappears. To be able to choose anything form it, i have to hold rightclick...any known workaround?
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15:46<holden87>Hi guys, one Q. Is there any plugin i can install to make Squeeze (the archiver in Xfce) extract .deb files? Thankful in advance.
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15:51<amoe>how can I noninteractively mount dm-crypt encrypted drives at boot time?
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15:54<devil>holden87: fileroller can extract debs
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16:16<amoe>turns out the answer to my question above is /etc/crypttab
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16:23<petn-randall>amoe: You still have to provide a password in some form though.
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16:25<amoe>sure sure, I just wanna store it to a file.
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16:27<r3c4ll>do you know a good manual for "Clone LVM based machines in Xen using the XL toolstack"?
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16:27<r3c4ll>in wheezy
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16:30<acald3ron>banshee wont play music.
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16:40<devil>acald3ron: interesting
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16:41<devil>acald3ron: but you are providing way too much info to ever get to the bottom of that
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16:43<acald3ron>what do you need to know? its not playing my music, i just choose vlc.
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16:44<devil>acald3ron: what format are you trying to play? do other players play that?
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16:52<X>sera
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16:54<acald3ron>devil, mp3, ogg and flac. VLC is playing well.
16:55<devil>well, there is no bugreport, so I would delete the conf file and reinstall the package
16:56<r3c4ll>do you know a good manual for "Clone LVM based machines using the XL toolstack in Xen "?
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16:59<acald3ron>devil, also i tried with clementine and yes it plays music. im running debian jessie.
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16:59<devil>r3c4ll: maybe ask in a xen-related channel?
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17:01<devil>acald3ron: did you do what I suggested?
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17:48<Daskroomk>How do I see all available packages that I can install and how do I install them? :/
17:48<Daskroomk>I did a stupid thing a few minutes ago.
17:48<SamB>you don't want to install all of them
17:48<SamB>there are a LOT of them
17:49<Daskroomk>I did -aptitude update and -aptitude install, managed to remove all my packages.
17:49<Daskroomk>Or almost all.
17:50<SamB>check /var/log/aptitude ?
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17:51<Daskroomk>So, do I have to install them one by one?
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17:51<SamB>no
17:51<SamB>maybe someone will whip up some shell magic for you?
17:51<lostatwork>depends on what you want to do
17:52<Daskroomk>I want to restore all programs I manage to remove
17:52<Daskroomk>Looking at the list now it's huge, 324 packages were removed.
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17:54<Daskroomk>I read somewhere about undo command, but it doesn't seem to work, or I'm unsure if it's the solution.
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17:54<Daskroomk>My only options I see is reinstall whole debian or install all 324 packages one by one.
17:54<SamB>I think that only undoes proposed changes in the [TG]UI
17:54<SamB>Daskroomk: you could pastebin that part of the log
17:55<Daskroomk>Sec
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17:56<Daskroomk>http://pastebin.com/Gm6Rh49f
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18:00<SamB>Daskroomk: hmm, unfortunately it doesn't say anything about any of these having been marked as "manually installed" ...
18:00<GotToDash>Hi guys, im new to ubuntu
18:00<Daskroomk>So in other words, there's nothing that can be done?
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18:01<CQ>Daskroomk: try to reinstall important ones with lots of dependencies, kdm for example
18:01<SamB>Daskroomk: I guess you could just install all of them again
18:01<CQ>Daskroomk: and libreoffice
18:01<Daskroomk>So, manually install them one by one?
18:01<SamB>or you could try what CQ suggests
18:01<Daskroomk>Yes, but that is manually but just saves some time.
18:02<Daskroomk>There's no way to write some script
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18:02<Daskroomk>to install all of them?
18:02<SamB>Daskroomk: I was going to suggest something involving a shell script, but with the unfortunate result that you'd end up with a lot of things marked manually installed that probably shouldn't be ...
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18:03<CQ>Daskroomk: what samb says is the problem... you want to pull in a few packages that will pull most of the rest via dependencies.
18:03<markus>#debian
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18:03<Daskroomk>I just don't understand, I used the command 'aptitude install'
18:03<Daskroomk>how can something be named install in command when it deletes whole package system.
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18:04<Daskroomk>And how come it doesn't have a counterpart to the command 'install'
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18:04<SamB>Daskroomk: it looks like some packages that were depending on these ones got uninstalled at some point in the past
18:04<SamB>perhaps using "apt-get remove"
18:06<Daskroomk>Well, I dont have terminal left. :c
18:06<Daskroomk>Only those I manually installed, but it doesn't matter since everything is gone.
18:07<CQ>terminal? you can get to one with alt-f1
18:07<CQ>that gets you to a console. then installing kde-desktop (or whatever the KDE metapackage is called) should get most of the packages back is my guess
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18:08<SamB>maybe just the plasma one
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18:09<CQ>apt-get install kde-plasma-desktop
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18:09<SamB>hmm, he left
18:09<CQ>oh well
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18:17<stanley_robertson>hi all
18:18<GotToDash>hey
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18:19<stanley_robertson>hi GotToDash
18:19<stanley_robertson>hi Jikan
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20:26<cae>does forums.d.n have SSL secured connection? It doesn't look like this and I don't feel well with sending creditials in plain text. (I'm aware that d.n isn't as official as d.o, so feel free to redirect me)
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21:30<root>.
21:30<gry>hello
21:30<root>hello
21:34<root>bye
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21:35<amphi>wb
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21:42<root>.
21:42<root>i
21:42<root>hi
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21:43<root>I have this problem
21:43<root>I think it is GTK-related
21:44<root>konsole amd roxterm
21:45<root>they both do no longer have a different color of the opened tab
21:45<root>for the opened tab
21:45<root>in Squeeze it worked fine
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21:45<root>in Wheezy, Jesse and Sid this problem excists
21:46<root>it is rather annoying
21:47<root>and it bothers me
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21:48<abrotman>choose a different theme
21:48<root>I do not have any GTK-theme or whats however, everything is standard
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21:49<root>yes abrotman can you tell me how to do this?
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21:49<root>I am running fluxbox
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21:59<root>gtk is a pain in the ass
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22:00<abrotman>feel free to use something else
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22:00<root>I found my themes in /usr/share/themes/
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22:01<amphi>now it's more fun having to have a theme for gtk2 & 3
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22:01<root>Say I want to use the MurrinaElement theme in roxterm
22:02<root>how to accomplish this?
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22:08<root>I found my .gtkrc-2.0 file
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22:09<amphi>root: you could use gtk-chtheme
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22:10<root>I found GTK+ 2.0 theme changer and previewer utility
22:10<root>I am installing it right now
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22:14<root>I will do some playing with gtk-chtheme, thank you amphi and abrotman
22:14<amphi>yw
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22:23<root>grk does not alter the color of the open tab :(
22:23<root>gtk*
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22:25<abrotman>root: which app ?
22:25<abrotman>maybe try the gnome-tweak-tool
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22:29<root>gnome-tweak-tool does not do the job
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22:29<root>abrotman, roxterm (and konsole)
22:29<root>I use roxterm all days
22:30<abrotman>why would konsole use a gtktheme?
22:31<root>you are right
22:31<root>perhaps it is not gtk related
22:33<abrotman>perhaps ..
22:33<root>konsole does show a differnt shade of grey on the open tab
22:33<abrotman>judd: depends roxterm
22:33<judd>Package roxterm in wheezy/i386 -- depends: roxterm-gtk3 (>= 2.6.5-1).
22:33<root>so the problem is with rozterm
22:33<abrotman>judd: depends roxterm-gtk3
22:33<judd>Package roxterm-gtk3 in wheezy/i386 -- depends: libc6 (>= 2.4), libdbus-1-3 (>= 1.0.2), libdbus-glib-1-2 (>= 0.78), libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 (>= 2.22.0), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.24.0), libgtk-3-0 (>= 3.0.0), libice6 (>= 1:1.0.0), libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.14.0), libsm6, libvte-2.90-9 (>= 1:0.27.2), libx11-6, librsvg2-common, roxterm-common (= 2.6.5-1).
22:33<root>roxterm*
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22:33<abrotman>so roxterm is gtk3 .. try the gnome-tweak-tool
22:34<abrotman>that's the only way I know of to change that theme
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22:35<root>gnome-tweak-tool does not do the job
22:35<root>but I am very pleased that konsole behaves good now
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22:36*SamB is pretty sure that Qt can be configured to try to ape a GTK theme and vice-versa ...
22:36<abrotman>SamB: it can, but I don't think it happens magically
22:36<SamB>no, it does not
22:37<SamB>I think I heard that the KDE/Qt people were responsible for the necessary theme engines, too
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22:40<root>I think it is a bug, introduced with Wheezy and never solved
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22:40<root>I consider it a bug
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22:41<root>It should work out of the boc, like it was
22:41<root>box*
22:42<root>like it used to*
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22:55<root>anyway, I switch from roxterm to konsole
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23:14<CountryfiedLinux>hey y'all
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23:15<CountryfiedLinux>I'm trying to install the 3.11 kernel but there must be a prerequisite I'm missing that I don't see in the wiki.
23:15*SamB wonders why anyone would want a read-only xterm anyway
23:15<SamB>CountryfiedLinux: what did you do?
23:15<CountryfiedLinux>If someone could help me get this kernel installed that would be much appreciated and thanks in advance.
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23:16<nevyn>SamB: for displaying a log at increased privilage?
23:16<CountryfiedLinux>SamB, apt-get install linux-image-3.11
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23:17<nevyn>!bdokernel
23:17<nevyn>!bdo
23:17<dpkg>backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable (see <wheezy backports>) and oldstable (<squeeze backports>) distributions, prepared by Debian developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/. See also <bdo kernel> <bdo mirrors> <bdo contents> <bdo list> <bdo bugs> <bdo xorg> <bdo NEW>.
23:17<nevyn>!bdo kernel
23:17<dpkg>Newer kernels for Debian stable releases are available from the "wheezy-backports" repository. Ask me about <wheezy-backports> to modify your sources.list, then run «aptitude update». To install the current backported kernel: «aptitude -t wheezy-backports install linux-image-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'`». To list available backported kernel image packages: «aptitude search '?narrow(~nlinux-image,?origin(Debian Backports))'».
23:17<nevyn>CountryfiedLinux: ^^
23:18<CountryfiedLinux>So I need to install backports first?
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23:19<nevyn>CountryfiedLinux: if you want a kernel that's newer than what shipped with the os yes.
23:20-!-mode/#debian [+l 607] by debhelper
23:20<nevyn>3.11 wasn't even released when wheezy shipped.
23:24<CountryfiedLinux>I'm trying to edit sources.list but gksu isn't installed. How do I install that?
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23:25<CountryfiedLinux>Oh its a package name I got it now
23:25<SamB>it's worse when you are trying to install gksudo
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23:26<CountryfiedLinux>What should I use SamB ?
23:26<SamB>(because the package is still named gksu in that case)
23:27<SamB>gksu is probably fine
23:28<CountryfiedLinux>ok now gonna add the backport and update
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23:30<CountryfiedLinux>ok update went fine :) now for the kernel
23:31<CountryfiedLinux>So its 'pt-get install linux-image-3.11-amd64' Am I right?
23:32<CountryfiedLinux>SamB, ^
23:32<CountryfiedLinux>I meant apt not pt
23:32<SamB>not sure about that last part
23:33<SamB>I mean, the -amd64
23:33<CountryfiedLinux>And is there a -t in there somewhere also?
23:33<CountryfiedLinux>I'm not quite up to par on my syntax yet.
23:34<SamB>shouldn't need a -t in this case
23:34<SamB>since the package doesn't even exist in stable
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23:35<CountryfiedLinux>couldn't find package linux-image-3.11-amd64
23:35<CountryfiedLinux>nor 3.11
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23:36<CountryfiedLinux>Can someone here help me fix my syntax error in 'apt-get install linux-image-3.11'?
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23:39<SamB>,v linux-image-3.11 --arch=amd64
23:39<judd>No package named 'linux-image-3.11' was found in amd64.
23:39<SamB>,judd
23:39<CountryfiedLinux>with the comma SamB ?
23:39<SamB>!judd
23:39<dpkg>judd is a window into the Ultimate Debian Database (ask me about <udd>). Judd can look up package, PCI ID and kernel config information. See http://ircbots.debian.net/judd/ for detailed information, or ask me about <judd-packages>, <judd-hardware>, <source judd>.
23:40*SamB is looking for the "search for packages by partial name" or whatever command
23:40<CountryfiedLinux>judd, command line option --arch=amd64 is not understood
23:41<SamB>,names linux-image-3.11* --arch=amd64
23:41<LtL>CountryfiedLinux: linux-image-3.11 is in wheezy-backports
23:42<judd>Search for linux-image-3.11* in wheezy/amd64:
23:42<CountryfiedLinux>LtL, It says here couldn't find.
23:42<jimpop>is there a nginx+spdy pkg available?
23:43<LtL>CountryfiedLinux: sure you have backports enabled?
23:44<CountryfiedLinux>my source list LtL http://paste.debian.net/71875/
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23:45<CountryfiedLinux>LtL, see anything that needs fixing?
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23:46<LtL>CountryfiedLinux: you need to add a backports line, e.g. deb http://YOURMIRROR.debian.org/debian wheezy-backports main
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23:46<CountryfiedLinux>LtL, Oh the line actually contains YOURMIRROR?
23:47<SamB>CountryfiedLinux: no
23:47<CountryfiedLinux>I thought I was supposed to substitute that with ftp.us
23:47<SamB>perhaps you are
23:47<CountryfiedLinux>oh debian not wheezy
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23:47<SamB>you also need to run "apt-get update"
23:47<SamB>well, "sudo apt-get update"
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23:48<CountryfiedLinux>SamB, That's already in my sources list
23:48<CountryfiedLinux>SamB, at the very top
23:48<CountryfiedLinux>is it without the #?
23:48<SamB>yes, without the #
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23:49<LtL>CountryfiedLinux: so it is, mt mistake, did you update
23:49<LtL>CountryfiedLinux: un-comment then update
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23:51<CountryfiedLinux>Ok now its saying this http://paste.debian.net/71876/
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23:51<CountryfiedLinux>I removed the # and updated.
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23:52<LtL>CountryfiedLinux: you did use -t right? try aptitude instead
23:52<CountryfiedLinux>I didn't include the -t
23:52<gsimmons>CountryfiedLinux: You need the -t wheezy-backports, in order for dependencies such as later initramfs-tools versions to be satisified.
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23:52<LtL>CountryfiedLinux: update, then apt-cache search linux-image, once you see it apt-get -t install wheezy-backports packagename
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23:53<LtL>apt-get or aptitude will be fine
23:53<SamB>LtL: that seems a bit mexed up
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23:53<LtL>SamB: how so?
23:53<SamB>I am not familiar with the "install" distribution or the "wheezy-backports" command to apt-get/aptitude
23:54<CountryfiedLinux>LtL, Where in the command do I include the -t?
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23:55<LtL>CountryfiedLinux: try apt-get -t wheezy-backports install package
23:55<LtL>SamB: you were right
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23:58<CountryfiedLinux>ok I'm getting there http://paste.debian.net/71877/
23:59<LtL>CountryfiedLinux: you want line number 3
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