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#debian IRC Logs for 2013-12-22

---Logopened Sun Dec 22 00:00:44 2013
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00:14<CQ>where is sensible-editor set?
00:14<abrotman>CQ: ls -l $(which sensible-editor)
00:14<CQ>got it, select-editor
00:15<abrotman>CQ: ah, sorry, thought it was an "alternatives"
00:16<CQ>abrotman: trying to make my first ever debian package... probably dozens of these little gotchas in the process ; )
00:16<abrotman>ah okay
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00:22<CQ>abrotman: the developer name is the full real name in the changelog, correct?
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00:28<abrotman>I believe so
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00:37<voltagex>is alioth having issues? I can't clone anything in collab-maint - it just hangs
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00:39<SamB>CQ: do you know about #debian-mentors ?
00:39<CQ>SamB: nope, thanks
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00:39<CQ>I'm working my way through liw's docs and dh right now...
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00:55<slawa>sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
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00:56<slawa>есть ктонибуть со влада?
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00:56<abrotman>!ru
00:56<dpkg>Это английскоговорящий канал, пожалуйста, говорите по-английски или посетите #debian-russian (irc.freenode.net) (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian)
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05:45<nnn>hi
05:45<nnn>i uninstalled gdm and replaced it with kdm, and now i have the default qwerty keyboard layout
05:46<nnn>even though my /etc/default/keyboard contains XKBLAYOUT="fr"
05:46<nnn>why doesn't kdm use it? what can i do?
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06:22<MegaForce>Hy!
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06:23<MegaForce>I would like to ask a little help. I downloaded the latest debian and does not start the graphical interface.
06:23<MegaForce>the setup is successfull
06:23<MegaForce>but the gnome doesn't start
06:24<MegaForce>I typed startx
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06:24<MegaForce>and nothing do
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06:24<MegaForce>then typed the command
06:24<MegaForce>su apt-get install gnome
06:25<MegaForce>posted by mistake.
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06:57<beginner_help>is there anyone
06:58<beginner_help>i am new to this
06:59<beginner_help>what is this
06:59<beginner_help>please help
06:59<Natureshadow>beginner_help: don't ask to ask. Just ask your question.
07:00<beginner_help>sorry! i am only confirming if there is anyone
07:00<beginner_help>i am learning iptable firewall which book should i prefer
07:01<beginner_help>is there anyone?
07:02<beginner_help>wtf?
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08:13<petn-randall>bw
08:13<petn-randall>(sorry, typoed)
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08:19<just>Hi! Dont work Fn-key after update kernel to 3.11-0.bpo.2-amd64. Notebook dell 3721 with integrated video Intel.
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08:28<petn-randall>just: Do you know with which kernel it worked?
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08:29<just>petn-randall: yes, but in older kernel dont work wi-fi
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08:32<just>kernel was 3.2.0.4 before update
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08:47<bea>is something wrong with cups? first i tried the web interface on 631, but it stalled after trying to login, so i tried the kde printer settings and it froze my entire system. this is fresh install. not even alt-print-k will work.
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08:48<bea>edit: alt-print-k worked with a delay of one minute.
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08:50<petn-randall>bea: Check the log file in /var/log/daemon.log if there are any error messages.
08:50<petn-randall>bea: Did any error message pop up during printing?
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08:52<bea>petn-randall: nothing in daemon log grepped for cups. not even attempting to print, trying to get to the config so i can add a printer. brb...
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08:56<petn-randall>bea: I haven't had to debug cups in a while. But I think you can add a debug option in the config, restart it and then try it again.
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08:57<bea>hang on... i'm getting an error message after about 5 minutes of spinning wheel in the kde config and i sucessfully get to the add printer dialog in the web interface after about half a minute
08:58<bea>/var/log/cups/error_log only has 'avahi client failed, closing client to allow a clean restart', but that seems to coincide with bootup, not my attempt to configure
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08:59<bea>could it be that it's just terribly slow and my almost simultaneous attempt in the web interface somehow kicked the kde interface out?
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09:03<petn-randall>bea: Don't think so.
09:03<petn-randall>bea: I can imagine that connection or DNS lookup problems might be the source of the problem, but that's pure speculation at this point.
09:04<bea>ok, i just tried the same thing on another wheezy machine, with the same result. at this point, is it possible that the kde printer config module is simply broken and nobody has noticed yet? it wasn't installed by default, i wondered why.
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09:05<bea>the package is system-config-printer-kde
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09:06<petn-randall>bea: I'm pretty sure people would have noticed by now, it it was broken for everybody.
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09:06<petn-randall>bea: I think the problem is specific to your setup, or is a bug in combination with the setup you have.
09:07<bea>petn-randall: and they have, just found the bug report, it affects stable
09:07<petn-randall>bea: What's the bug number?
09:07<bea>647839
09:09<bea>wait... why is the bug archived? what is 'done'? i though bugs were marked solved or unresolved?
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09:10<petn-randall>bea: Hmm, the first comment suggests that it worked for that person. So I do think that other conditions need to be fulfilled to trigger this bug.
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09:10<petn-randall>bea: Bugs get archived to reduce spam. It merely means they need to be unarchived before adding any comments to them.
09:10<petn-randall>bea: That way random spam doesn't get added to old bugs.
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09:11<bea>petn-randall: ok. well, both of my machines are running wheezy with kde, and they are in the same network. one of them was upgraded from when wheezy was still testing. different hardware.
09:12<petn-randall>bea: On which machine is the printer running? How is it connected?
09:12<bea>petn-randall: it's a network printer. i haven't even gotten around to adding it
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09:13<bea>will try to do that now, using the web interface for now
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09:13<petn-randall>bea: Does the web interface work?
09:13<bea>petn-randall: it's a bit slow, but it seems to work. i need to add normal users to lpadmin so they can use it, right?
09:16<petn-randall>bea: Could be, don't remember it. Might be a far fetch, but can you paste the contents of /etc/resolv.conf to http://paste.debian.net?
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09:21<bea>petn-randall: i'm hesitant to post it, but there are 4 entries, domain and search are the same and look right to me, and two nameservers with IPs that belong to our organization.
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09:23<petn-randall>bea: Ok, does the entry 'search' or 'domain' end in 'local'?
09:24<bea>petn-randall: ok, it's silly, you can see where i'm at anyway. http://paste.debian.net/72194/
09:24<bea>ok, printing test page worked now, but took about a minute
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09:26<petn-randall>bea: zeroconf clashes with any DNS setup that has '.local' as domain, which is why I asked. But it doesn't seem to be the case here.
09:28<petn-randall>bea: If you are a little tech-savvy, you can start wireshark and capture the network traffic between you and the printer. But you probably don't want to paste that publicly :/
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09:29<bea>petn-randall: well, it seems to work now. the second test page came instantly. i'll just ignore the first attempt. kde config is broken, i'll uninstall it again. just to be safe, when adding the printer, i had to choose a .ppd file out of a list (matching the printers name, there were duplicate entries though), is that the best way to do it?
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09:31<bea>i always considered myself so computer-native that i was above configuring printers, since printing was for old people. i guess i'm officially old now.
09:32<petn-randall>bea: As long as you don't print e-mails, you're fine ;)
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09:33<petn-randall>bea: Usually you'll have several ppds to pick from in the list, but one will come with "(recommended)" appended to the name. Just pick that one.
09:33*bea casually wipes a stack of paper off the desk into the trashbin
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09:33<bea>i would never print emails
09:33<petn-randall>hehe :D
09:33<bea>petn-randall: ok. thanks for your patient assistance!
09:34<petn-randall>The other drivers are *usually* more buggy or have less functionality, but you can still try them for debugging purposes.
09:34<petn-randall>bea: You're welcome! Glad I could help.
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09:41<bea>it seems i was a bit quick to rejoice. whatever is wrong with the kde printer config seems to affect all kde applications. okular freezes when i try to print. openoffice works.
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09:59<bea>got it: every time i open the print dialog, cups looks for shared printers on the local network. since there are abundantly many of them around here, this takes forever. 'Browsing Off' in cupsd.conf fixes this. would anyone agree that this is a bug? as in, bad policy? basically this a sort of a backwards denial of service vulnerability.
10:00<bea>it's also what causes kde system config to freeze.
10:00<petn-randall>bea: I do think it is a minor bug, since it shouldn't block while scanning for printers, but rather do that in the background.
10:01<bea>the only thing i don't fully understand yet is why it only happens with kde apps
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10:01<petn-randall>bea: I'd report this bug since it at least should be documented in the README.
10:02<apoc_>hi there! Debian Wheezy, XFCE 4.8 here.. Can someone tell me what I have to look out for, when installing XFCE 4.10 with the tarball form the offical site?
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10:03<petn-randall>apoc_: Read the README or INSTALL file carefully, that is all.
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10:03<petn-randall>apoc_: You'll have to head over to their channel though if you want to get support.
10:04<apoc_>thanks, just wanted to know if there was anything general to pay attention to ;)
10:05<apoc_>have a good one, merry christmas and stuff
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10:16<unknown-->Hello. There's a program called QjackCtl that was installed on my computer without me installing it. Any ideas how it got in my computer?
10:16<unknown-->Could
10:18<petn-randall>unknown--: It could have been pulled in as a dependency.
10:19<unknown-->Likely. I don't get what it does, though.
10:19<Nemoder>apt-cache show qjackctl
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10:22<unknown-->http://paste.debian.net/72205/
10:22<unknown-->Does it sound safe?
10:23<petn-randall>unknown--: "Safe" by what metric? It's a signed package provided by the Debian project.
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10:23<petn-randall>unknown--: It's not a trojan or malware if that's what you're suggesting.
10:24<Nemoder>if you dont use it then just remove it
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11:06<firmware421>hello
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11:08<firmware421>sorry if this is a stupid question but, when the system boots and the words fly up the screen you know, is there a log or something so i can better read what is happening
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11:09<ixi>,v bootlogd
11:09<judd>Package: bootlogd on i386 -- wheezy: 2.88dsf-41+deb7u1; jessie: 2.88dsf-43; sid: 2.88dsf-43
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11:10<ixi>firmware421 that thing above, or https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Netconsole
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11:11<firmware421>i installed it ill give it a try
11:12<firmware421>read the man page. so i guess i just reboot now?
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11:15<jimmyb>I'm trying to add quodlibet as my default player however it doesn't appear as an option. My understanding is that I have to specify a mimetype? I was wondering if I have to create an xml file for this or will simply updating the desktop file do this? Or have I got the completely wrong end of the stick
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11:18<jimmyb>Running Gnome Version 3.8.4 if that helps
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11:19<mpfusion_>jimmyb: To change the default application for a mime type: xdg-mime default <application.desktop> <mime-type>
11:19<mpfusion_>You can also do that manually, the files are located in ~/.local/share/applications/
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11:23<jimmyb>mpfusion_: You're an absolute diamond. Thanks very much for your help
11:23<jimmyb>Problem solved
11:23<mpfusion_>I'm glad I could help :)
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11:55<utente>hello, i wish to reate a "ncurses" menu, but to avoid to "redo the wheel" i am guessing if i can recycle the ncurses menu of the debian installer: any idea from where can i start to study the topic?
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12:00<blubberdiblub>utente, i think it's "whiptail" or "dialog" you're looking for
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12:01<utente>blubberdiblub, thanks, now i search about these words
12:01<blubberdiblub>utente, also check out the debian packages of those names
12:02<utente>anyway, there is some "skeleton" software that can be filled with user-instructions?
12:02<blubberdiblub>i've never done it myself, sorry
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12:02<blubberdiblub>utente, "apt-get install dialog" and then look into /usr/share/doc/dialog/examples/ maybe
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12:03<utente>mm yres im reading apt-cache show dialog, seems to be ok for my needs, thank you
12:03<utente>:)
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12:12<blubberdiblub>utente, if you prefer python over shell scripting, there's also python-urwid
12:13<utente>im python-blind so i go with fialog. thanks the same for the offer, i will boockmark this info.
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12:22<xorinzor>hello people, is it okay if I ask a support question in here? it's regarding file-recovery and what the best approach would be (I need to recover only a few files and not the entire hdd)
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12:36<Poenikatu>Hello. I am using Debian GNU/Linux wheezy (kernel 3.2.0-4-amd64). I am trying to get input from a microphone. I am using alsamixergui to control the sound. When the master channel is `on', but the level is minimum, I still get feedback from the mic. Why?
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12:38<greenit>hi, i have a problem: i am unable to mount my external usb drive (it says authorization error) on one of my computers, on the other one (where Debian testing instead of stable is installed), i have no problems with it. The users have the same groups on both computers, do you know why i can't mount the drive in stable?
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12:46<Black_Prince>missing a polkit agent?
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12:50<greenit>Black_Prince, do you mean me?
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12:52<Black_Prince>the authorization error is most likely related to missing polkit agent or misconfigured consolekit (ie, session not started with ck-launch-session or something like that) or that logind doesn't work properly if systemd system is in question
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12:55<Axi0m_S>Hi everyone, i just installed Debian in my laptop, when i was installing they asked me to provide ucode-135 (something like this) for my wifi driver. I wasn't able to provide it so i finished the installation and now i'm having trouble installing my wifi. I followed everything https://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi but i'm still not able to use my wifi.
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12:56<Axi0m_S>By the way i'm using Debian 7.3 if it's useful. (And i'm sorry for my english, it's not my mothertongue.)
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12:56<Poenikatu>Axi0m_S: When you said `they', did you mean the Debian installer? The program which does the installation?
12:57<Axi0m_S>Yeap, the debian installer when you burn an iso or make it bootable on a USB key
12:58<Poenikatu>Axi0m_S: Ok, which WiFi do you have?
12:58<Axi0m_S>"lspci -nn" give me this : "05:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 135 [8086:0892] (rev c4)
12:58<Axi0m_S>"
12:58<greenit>Black_Prince, i forgot to mention that all other devices work to plug and play, except this one drive
12:59<Poenikatu>Axi0m_S: Incidentally, the `Debian installer' is the program which controls the installation; that is, when you boot from the CD-ROM or USB stick
12:59<Black_Prince>check /etc/fstab, maybe it's still there
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13:00<Poenikatu>Axi0m_S: Try installing the Debian package `firmware-linux' to see whether your card is mentioned.
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13:02<greenit>Black_Prince, thanks alot, worked :)
13:02<Poenikatu>Axi0m_S: When you installed Debian, which piece of microcode did the installer ask for?
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13:03<Axi0m_S>Here is the output of the installation of firmware linux
13:03<Axi0m_S>http://pastebin.com/YW1p8uC3
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13:04<Axi0m_S>and the microcode requested was : "iwlwifi-135-6.ucode" and "iwlwifi-135-5.ucode"
13:05<Axi0m_S>"dmesg" give me : "[ 1762.107336] iwlwifi 0000:05:00.0: firmware: agent aborted loading iwlwifi-135-6.ucode (not found?) [ 1762.110269] iwlwifi 0000:05:00.0: firmware: agent aborted loading iwlwifi-135-5.ucode (not found?)
13:05<Axi0m_S>"
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13:06<chealer>Axi0m_S: is firmware-iwlwifi installed?
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13:06<Axi0m_S>chealer, Yes it is
13:07<abrotman>it tries a few versions IIRC
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13:07<mazinho>posso pedir ajuda a vc?
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13:07<chealer>Axi0m_S: does the card work after rebooting?
13:08<abrotman>mazinho: english please
13:08<Axi0m_S>It works properly under windows
13:08<mazinho>ok
13:08<abrotman>mazinho: or #debian-br
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13:08<mazinho>I got no sound, and what not to do?
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13:09<NerdWorld>Anybody good at preseeding debian installations? I've got a small problem I can't figure out.
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13:10<gsimmons>Axi0m_S: What does "dpkg -l firmware-iwlwifi | tail -1" return on your system?
13:11<Axi0m_S>gsimmons it returns : "ii firmware-iwlwifi 0.28+squeeze1 all Binary firmware for Intel Wireless 3945, 4965 and 5000-series cards"
13:11<abrotman>NerdWorld: just ask, don't ask to ask
13:11<gsimmons>Axi0m_S: Your system seems to be configured to install non-free packages belonging the oldstable release (Squeeze), not Wheezy.
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13:12<NerdWorld>OK abrtoman. I'm preseeding 7.3.0, and the locale still has to be set manually. I've got the line "d-i debian-installer/locale string en_US" as the first item in preseed.cfg.
13:12<Axi0m_S>Hmm, could be a mistake i did while modifying sources.list ?
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13:13<abrotman>NerdWorld: isn't it usually en_US.UTF-8 ?
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13:13<gsimmons>Axi0m_S: Possibly. The current contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list file (at a paste site) would help us to determine this.
13:14<NerdWorld>The locale details can be set also, but the docs seem to indicate that this should be sufficient. I'll try setting all the details too.
13:14<Axi0m_S>I was actually using Squeeze repository instead of Wheezy..
13:15<Axi0m_S>I'm reinstalling firmware-iwlwifi
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13:16<Axi0m_S>It's working now, thanks Poenikatu, chealer and gsimmons !
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13:17<NerdWorld>abrotman, even setting all the details still brings up the dialog for locale. Is there anything goofy about the syntax, or maybe a small typo in my line?
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13:19<Poenikatu>Axi0m_S: Good news.
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13:21<abrotman>NerdWorld: this should be in the appendix for preseeding, it's a basic part of it
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13:22<NerdWorld>ABrotman. Yeah, that's what's frustrating. I've got preseeding (mostly) down. It worked for me for version 6.x, but I've udpated it for 7.x, and now just a few items don't function. Once I get past the locale and 2 other small issues, it all works as expected. I must be doing something wrong, but I'll be darned if I can figure out what.
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13:31<Poenikatu>I am finding that there are discrepancies between alsamixer and alsamixergui. Surely, using one should be reflected by the other?
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13:48<Poenikatu>In the program `alsamixer', what is the difference between the `Front Mic' column and the 2 `Capture' columns?
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13:59<Poenikatu>Using `alsamixer', I have `Master' and `PCM' set to zero and `Front Mic' set to 51 and `Front Mic Boost' set to 53. I can hear noises when I run my nails over the microphone head. So when `Master' and `PCM' are both zero, how come sound i reproduced by my sound card?
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14:06<david>hello
14:06<david>I have problem with the unique monitor resolution settings. Can anybody help?
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14:47<sopel>help
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14:49<roberto>Hello i dont can make su for get root
14:49<roberto>passwd ist wong
14:49<roberto>im not clear because
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14:49<sopel>does any one have an idea why ncmpcpp does not set the window title - i mean X
14:50<luckyPunk>Is there a Semplice-channel?
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15:05<Malice>hello
15:05<Malice>I need help
15:05<Malice>I am using CrunchBang linux
15:05<Malice>And I tried to switch from Wheezy to jessie
15:05<Malice>And after rebooting, I can't use GUI
15:06<Malice>Any ideas, or questions so I can give you more insight on situation? :/
15:07<NIN>in general I would read the Xorg looks as a start.
15:07<NIN>*logs
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15:08<luckyPunk>Malice: maybe better to go to #crunchbang on irc.freenode.net
15:09<Malice>NIN, how can I read Xorg log?
15:09<NIN>it should be in the /var/log directory somewhere
15:09<Malice>k, will check
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15:14<Malice>And what should I look for in there?
15:14<Malice>I have 3 logs, and it looks like these are from 3 previous boots.
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15:17<NIN>for errors etc. but as luckyPunk suggested, perhaps ask in #crunchbang on irc.freenode.net, as they are supposed to know crunchbang better, and maybe it's a known problem.
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16:17<NerdWorld>abrotman. FYI: My preseed problem was caused by me using the wrong copy of preseed.cfg to build my iso. <sigh> (I figured it had to be something both simple and stoopid.)
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16:19<abrotman>Doh!
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16:30<shaxewan>what is upgrate ubuntu
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16:30<elm4x>hello guys, i have some trouble here. When i tray print a photo the CUPS is printing a image with a word "URGENT" in side
16:30<elm4x>any tip about ?
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16:34<ompaul>!ubuntu
16:34<dpkg>Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>.
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16:35<ompaul>elm4x: I like to make pdf docs so I stick photos into A4 pages and print them
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16:39<kix>Hi
16:40<kix>I have some questions about sponsoring packages
16:40<kix>1. The package should be uploaded to mentors?
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16:49<rudi_s>kix: Better ask in #debian-mentors.
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16:55<kix>thanks rudi_s
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17:11<NerdWorld>Elm4x, have yo tired looking at the "advanced" priter settings? It sounds like you may have a "watermark" being printed somehow.
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17:22<Fenhl>Hello. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:OpenID lists some php extensions/modules that I need to install. How do I do this under the default apache setup?
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17:39<olasd>Fenhl: mediawiki-extensions-openid seems to be packaged, FWIW
17:40<Fenhl>oh, cool
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17:55<hisforever>Hi everybody I'm new here but use to use irc years ago
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17:56<hisforever>hi James How are you?
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17:57<doubledutch>!offtopic
17:57<dpkg>#debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day.
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18:44<Fenhl>Hello, I'm trying to get the amount of free disk space on /
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18:45<Hicks>Fenhl: df -h
18:45<Fenhl>like df, except only the number, because I'm trying to use this in a script that displays a warning in my zsh right prompt when I have less than a gig of free space
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18:46<Hicks>du -Sshc may do if you extract the first word of the 2nd line
18:46<Hicks>may be other args to narrow it down further
18:47<Hicks>or you can extract it from df -h which is probably faster
18:47<Fenhl>yeah, du is taking forever
18:47<Fenhl>the question is, how do I extract it?
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18:48<Hicks>df -hl /
18:48<Hicks>will get you just / then you can look at getting just one field
18:49<Fenhl>yeah, I've gotten that far already
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18:50<Fenhl>well, I guess I could split at spaces to get the Avail column
18:51<Hicks>df -hl / | awk '{avail+=$4} END{print avail}'
18:52<Hicks>never used awk before so there may be better ways to accomplish it than that
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18:54<Hicks>if you can get the first line skipped, just doing END{print $4} will get the free total
18:54<Hicks>in fact, df -hl / | awk 'END{print $4}'
18:54<Hicks>:)
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19:33<ar-curunir>hi guys.
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19:37<infinity0>what's the state of go like in debian?
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19:38<infinity0>i'm wondering how we are going to handle shared libraries etc
19:38<infinity0>i want to package agl's pond at some point, but have no prior go packaging experience
19:38<infinity0>(or even go experience. but i can learn quickly etc)
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19:52<scientes>infinity0, https://wiki.debian.org/MichaelStapelberg/GoPackaging
19:52<infinity0>thanks, found that then my net disconnected, then forgot to post here
19:53<infinity0>slightly disappointed with how it handles shared libs, but i guess it makes sense rather than trying to hack your own solution
19:53<scientes>well go doesn't support shared libs
19:53<scientes>if you compile with gccgo things are a bit differn't
19:53<infinity0>there's a issue on googlecode for it, they are making decent progress
19:54<infinity0>it's not that they want not to, it's just very low priority for the core go team it seems
19:54<infinity0>we might get it in the future
19:54<scientes>yep
19:55<scientes>i just reported that their use of sendfile() is very limited, when linux sendfile() is very powerful
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20:50<methodical>package xul-ext-greasemonkey in Debian Jessie requires Iceweasel >= version 20.0 however unfortunately Iceweasel is currently only at v17.0.1 in testing. How do I tell the package to use the previous version so that it's compatible?
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20:51<bremner>methodical: for jessie support try #debian-next
20:52<methodical>ok thanks bremner will do
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22:05<computerguy901>debeub_get App?
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22:20<mr>quisiera saber como instalar el menu de backtrack enubuntu
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22:21<abrotman>mr: this channel is for Debian support, not backtrack or ubuntu
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22:34<inkbottle001>Hi, since now (sid update), when I try to connect, with kdm or lightdm, the session fails to start, and it just comes back to the display manager. How can I find where the problem comes from?
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22:40<inkbottle001>Well, it might be the wront time of the day. Bye then
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22:41<sney>inkbottle001, also the wrong channel, see the topic
22:41<inkbottle001>I never thing about it
22:42<inkbottle001>it debian-next then?
22:42<sney>yes
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22:42<inkbottle001>ok i'm there :-)
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22:44<mccloud>login
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23:00<shoaib>hello guys
23:00<shoaib>i just installed solydk
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23:01<derpsauce>Am I screwed running a amd64 if Brother only offers a i386 driver?
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23:05<bremner>derpsauce: possibly you don't need Brother's driver. Does the printer speak PostScript ?
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23:06<derpsauce>It's a HL-2240 and I have it tethered to an Asus RT-N16 running Tomato
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23:07<sney>sometimes you can dig through the driver package and find the .ppd, which is the important part
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23:11<derpsauce>hmm, no .ppd so far, but I have found a restricted folder in hl2240lpr-2.1.0-1.i386/var/spool/lpd named HL2240
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23:19<silencio>is this the right channel for help?
23:20-!-mode/#debian [+l 603] by debhelper
23:21<silencio>i'm running into a problem w/ administrator access in gdebi
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23:22<silencio>if i don't open gdebi in root and manually select the package, as opposed to opening it directly from the browser download dialog, it doesn't take my root password
23:23<silencio>which is kinda just a minor inconvenience, but i'd like to know what's happening there
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23:26<sney>silencio, when you're running it from your browser, it's probably starting with gksudo, which is a sudo frontend so it takes your user (sudo) password, not root's password
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23:29<silencio>yeah, the thing is that i'm entering the same password when i sudo gdebi in terminal as i do when gdebi pops up from the browser
23:30<silencio>and it works from the terminal, but not from the browser
23:31<silencio>i've got sid running from crouton on a chromebook, if that matters
23:33<sney>probably a bug then. welcome to sid
23:34<silencio>i figured
23:34<silencio>if it's a feature it's not a very useful one
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23:37<shoaib>hello can anybody help me
23:37<sney>!ask
23:37<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
23:38<shoaib>i just installed solydk
23:38<shoaib>how do i install skype on it?
23:38<shoaib>this is my first time using linux
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23:39<sney>shoaib, sorry, this channel only supports debian, not anything else even if it's based on debian
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23:39<derpsauce>This is the output I get when I install the driver http://pastebin.com/4Cx912b3
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23:40<sney>derpsauce, well, it seems you have installed it. does it do anything?
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23:44<silencio>derpsauce, what's your architecture?
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23:47<raidensnake>is anyone around?
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23:47<derpsauce>sney, I added the printer (remember it's tethered to a Tomato router) and tried printing a document. nada. grr
23:48<raidensnake>doesvanyone knos anything about using ueci?
23:48<sney>!anyone
23:48<dpkg>Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>.
23:48<raidensnake>UEFI*
23:49<sney>derpsauce, are you using the printer through cups? does cups recognize it/the driver?
23:49<raidensnake>sorry keyboard glitch
23:50<raidensnake>does anyone know anything about using UEFI?
23:50<sney>raidensnake, assume that yes, one of the nearly 600 people in here knows about using a piece of technology that's been common for about 4 years, and ask your real question
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23:51<raidensnake>i want to boot a live cd using a pen drive but it only uses UEFI and i don't knw how to set it up.
23:52<derpsauce>I dunno if I'm using it through cups
23:52<derpsauce>But the printer does show up in the cups web admin interface
23:52<sney>raidensnake, what have you tried so far
23:53<sney>derpsauce, does it let you see/change settings like margins and dpi?
23:54<raidensnake>using yumi too build the pen drive but it only builds for bios boot not UEFI
23:54<raidensnake>UEFI confuses the hell out of me.
23:57<raidensnake>there's nothing explaining how to set up a bootable pen drive for it.
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23:58<sney>raidensnake, so is that a debian live usb?
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23:59<raidensnake>i'm trying to make ine that boots in UEFI mode.
23:59<raidensnake>one*
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