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#debian IRC Logs for 2013-12-27

---Logopened Fri Dec 27 00:00:13 2013
---Daychanged Fri Dec 27 2013
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00:51<lst>Hey, all
00:54<gry>oh, hello
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01:05<ImNotWitty>quiet night
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01:29<PYRO>FUCK MAD BITCHES
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03:07<future>hi
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03:15<exyzzy>quit
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05:42<rebli>after installation of qemu, the qemu binary is not found, maybe i ought to create a symlink?
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05:47<andreasj>rebli: try which qemu
05:48<babilen>rebli: It doesn't exist -- Are you looking for qemu-system-$ARCH ? Either way, check the output of "dpkg -L qemu-system{,x86_64}"
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05:49<rebli>no output, yes there are many qemu-system i am in amd64, many i must create a symlink?
05:49<andreasj>on my system (testing): lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 Okt 7 2011 /usr/bin/qemu -> /etc/alternatives/qemu
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05:49<rebli>no qemu present, may a dpkg -reconfigure?
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05:51<andreasj>rebli: maybe you are simply missing some packages? Try aptitude search "~iqemu"
05:53<andreasj>http://pastebin.com/iEaiPQRM this is what it looks like on my system
05:53<rebli>i have qemu-system-x86 but NOT qemu-system-x86-64, do i nedd it?
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05:55<zezelle>bonjour
05:55<rebli>andreasj: output of aptitude (part) i qemu - fast processor emulator
05:55<rebli>andreasj: not i A qemu ... is this important?
05:55<zezelle>j ai une probleme pour me connecter irc.tglobe.org
05:56<zezelle>rebli,
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05:58<zezelle>amphi, bonjour
05:58<zezelle>stp aide moi
05:59<babilen>dpkg: fr
05:59<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr.
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06:00<zezelle>dpkg, pour irc tglobe
06:00<dpkg>zezelle: wish i knew
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06:01<babilen>zezelle: Please speak English in this channel or "/join #debian-fr"
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06:03<amireldor>hello, I have a problem which I'm not sure how to tackle: Installed wheezy+xfce4 on a VirtualBox, but the Alt+drag doesn't move windows, AltGr+drag does though.
06:04<rebli>anyone has qemu installed in debian?
06:05<andreasj>rebli: "A" means automatically installed as a dependendy from another package, so that is not important
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06:06<rebli>andreasj: your output of aptitude is like mine, please could you follow qemu thru alternatives till the executable? thx
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06:07<andreasj>rebli: It looks like the alternatives are configured from the postinst scripts of the qemu-system-* packages
06:08<andreasj>e.g. /var/lib/dpkg/info/qemu-system-x86.postinst
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06:09<rebli>andreasj: i don't understand if qemu-system-x86 is for the primary system (guest?) or the secondary (host?) (i'm new to virtualization as you see
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06:11<andreasj>rebli: As far as I can tell these are different executables that allow you to emulate different guest architectures
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06:17<rebli>andreasj: i'm looking at qemu-...-postinst it looks for update-alternative in /usr/sbin but mine is in /usr/bin !!!
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06:19<andreasj>rebli: same here, looks like a bug to me
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06:20<andreasj>rebli: Changelog.Debian.gz says that handling of alternatives was changed in the last version of the qemu packages
06:20<SynrG>if we're talking about testing/unstable, the discussion should really be moved to #debian-next
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06:24<SynrG>rebli: join us there?
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06:26<rebli>SynrG: of course, i hope there will be anyone...
06:27<Ryccardo>amireldor: look in (apps menu)>(preferences), I remember that either Operbox or XFWM has a "drag windows while holding modifier" option
06:29<amireldor>Ryccardo, I saw it, it only says 'Alt'
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06:30<amireldor>Ryccardo, I ran `xev` and it detects Alt_L and Alt_R but seems that the dragging only reacts to Alt_R
06:30<amireldor>but that sounds like I know what i'm doing which I don't
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06:30<Ryccardo>under Openbox, the default works the opposite here
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06:43<SynrG>amireldor: please put the contents of /etc/default/keyboard at paste.debian.net for usto examine
06:43<SynrG>us* to*
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06:45<SynrG>sounds like that option would use whichever key(s) are mapped to Alt, but your keyboard settings have Alt_L mapped differently
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07:43<Ichiru>Can anybody else reproduce a segfault in mplayer when playing m4a files?
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08:43<Flakk>Hello people. I have a problem with wheezy: I can not open the .jnlp files. by default it should be opened with "Icd Java tea webstart" but it does not do its job. instead of opening the file it downloads it. any help?
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09:38<maxo_srv>!list
09:38<dpkg>maxo_srv: vedi http://packages.debian.org/
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09:52<Yeretik>Can anybody tell me if zabbix was eliminated from repos in wheezy?
09:53<Natureshadow>Yeretik: sure
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09:56<Yeretik>Natureshadow, Sure what? Was eliminated? In testing and sid exists
09:57<abrotman>judd: versions zabbix
09:57<judd>No package named 'zabbix' was found in i386.
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09:58<abrotman>Yeretik: see wheezy-backports
09:58<Yeretik>Ufff
09:59<abrotman>judd: versions zabbix-server-pgsql
09:59<judd>Package: zabbix-server-pgsql on i386 -- squeeze-security: 1:1.8.2-1squeeze4; squeeze: 1:1.8.2-1squeeze5; wheezy-backports: 1:2.0.9+dfsg-1~bpo70+2; jessie: 1:2.2.1+dfsg-1; sid: 1:2.2.1+dfsg-1
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09:59<Stummi>I see some packages zabbix-* in testing and unstable, but no zabbix
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10:07<Yeretik>So... Why in backports? It will return to normal repos someday?
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10:08<Ryccardo>on the next major release... if then there won't be a major issue with it :)
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10:10<abrotman>Yeretik: it was removed because it was buggy
10:11<Yeretik>So, it will return in jessie?
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10:11<Ryccardo>it's already there, in jessie :)
10:12<Ryccardo>as for whether it will be there when it becomes stable... nobody knows for sure
10:12<Natureshadow>Yeretik: Sure sommeone can tell you
10:12<abrotman>not yet they can't
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10:21<averythomas>Every few hours my server seems to just freeze up for about 20 seconds then goes back to normal. I looked in the syslog and when it freezes this error shows: http://pastebin.com/CPWhKMpc
10:22<averythomas>Non of the processes die the server just times out
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10:27<abrotman>averythomas: it's not good ..
10:27<averythomas>D:
10:27<averythomas>any solutions?
10:28<abrotman>reseat all the cables if you can get to the box
10:28<averythomas>I'm using a dedicated server from a hosting company :/
10:29<abrotman>you can ask them to take it down and reseat the cables
10:29<abrotman>or tell them the drive is showing SATA communication errors
10:29<blast007>and back up your important data if you haven't already :)
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11:53<vyacheslav>guys
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11:54<vyacheslav>is anyone here?
11:54<Ryccardo>"611 total users"
11:54<vyacheslav>ok sry
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11:55<vyacheslav>who can help me with sshfs on startup?
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11:56<KaaK>anyone ever experience 'hub 1-0:1.0: port 1 disabled by hub (EMI?), re-enabling...' messages in syslog before?
11:57<vyacheslav>i'm added my id_rsa.pub to authorized_keys on server and added 'sshfs user@host:/dir /dir' to rc.local, but it doesn't work. Where I can look some logs of this operation?
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12:00<vyacheslav>guys? anyone can help me? what am i doing wrong?
12:01<Ryccardo>vyacheslav: not sure about the logs, but rc.local probably runs as root, and definitely not as yourself
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12:02<vyacheslav>Ryccardo, I know, but in terminal it's works!
12:03<KaaK>vyacheslav: in that case, it sounds like an environment difference, compare your terminal env to that of rc.locals
12:04<vyacheslav>KaaK, sry, i don't know how to make it
12:04<vyacheslav>i'm using terminator, but i think it's not important
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12:05<KaaK>vyacheslav: https://wiki.debian.org/EnvironmentVariables
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12:07<KaaK>vyacheslav: for example, the PATH variable in the environment when rc.local is run may not include the binary it needs to run. However, when you run it from your terminal, the PATH environment variable DOES include the proper path -- just a hypothesis
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12:07<vyacheslav>oh
12:08<vyacheslav>sry, where is my translator
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12:10<blast007>vyacheslav: perhaps try running it from a crontab entry for your user and use the '@reboot' special string for the time. see 'man 5 crontab'
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12:12<vyacheslav>look
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12:14<vyacheslav>i'm was use 'mount -t cifs -o username=username,password=password //host/dir /dir' but i'm should to use the domain name instead IP for connect to server
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12:14<vyacheslav>but mount can't use domain name
12:14<vyacheslav>and in rc.local it's works
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12:15<vyacheslav>i am sorry if i bad explain
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12:31<jchristian>hi all
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12:43<zerick>hi
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12:47<siducer363__>hi how to disable gnome's "hot corner"
12:48<Ryccardo>try https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/118/ or 415
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13:19<fugit13>having problems with bonding and vlans on wheezy details can be found here: http://www.debian-administration.org/users/fugit/weblog/9
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13:58<jujue>bonjour
13:58<sney>!fr
13:58<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr.
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14:09<jeremyb>fugit13: tell the channel about your bug :)
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14:11<fugit13>having a problem with vlan + bonding on wheezy, everything for the vlan with a default gw works, all other vlan's the traffic comes in but never gets sent out from I can see in tcpdump.
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14:12<sney>the traffic needs to know where to go, presumably
14:12<sney>even if it doesn't have a default gateway it should still have a route
14:12<fugit13>sney: details can be found here: http://www.debian-administration.org/users/fugit/weblog/9
14:13<fugit13>sney: there is a default route, and under wheezy this setup worked
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14:14<fugit13>sney: this worked under squeeze and not working under wheezy
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14:17<sney>it's funny, i'm a ccna and a debian guy for over a decade but I've never tried combining them in this way. what do your pings look like? destination unreachable? timeouts?
14:18<fugit13>sney: the ping from the my desktop to the server on the vlan48 with dgw work fine
14:18<fugit13>sney: on other lans they just time out
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14:19<fugit13>sney: if I go from a server on the same vlan it works fine
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14:23<sney>fugit13, what about arp? do you get anything from e.g. arp -i bond0.45 ?
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14:24<fugit13>sney: yes, it lists macs on that vlan
14:25<sney>with their ips?
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14:26<fugit13>sney: yes it has there ips, or hostnames
14:26<babilen>where exactly?
14:26<sney>but you probably still can't ping. hmm.
14:27<fugit13>sney: correct
14:28<sney>well, since arp is okay, it does sound like a routing problem, and since the same config was ok in squeeze - apt-get changelog iproute2 and see if there are any relevant changes, perhaps?
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14:30<fugit13>sney: thanks reading that now
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14:55<mistnim>hello debian(♥) I have a pc and a laptop with jessie, the laptop is updated while the pc requests 800mb to upgrade with a slow connection. I know I can just pass all the laptop apt archive, but could you give me an idea on how to select just the packets needed?
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14:59<ompaul>mistnim: faster to just slap them across only take the newer if you are going to do some scripting
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15:02<musca>!apt-zip
15:02<dpkg>Update a non-networked computer using apt and removable media. Just aptitude install apt-zip and read the docs in /usr/share/doc/apt-zip, or ask me about <apt offline> <apt-walkabout>. http://wiki.debian.org/AptZip
15:02<fugit13>sney: i have downgraded to the same version of iproute on my wheezy server and still no joy same behavior.
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15:04<sakax>i tried to install a backported kernel and it failed
15:05<sakax>i removed the installed packages via apt and received a warning "You may need to re-run your boot loader"
15:05<sakax>what does this mean and how can i re-run the boot loader?
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15:06<babilen>sakax: I guess that refers to "update-grub2" but if you could paste your commands and the entirety of their output to http://paste.debian.net we can provide better help
15:07<sakax>babilen, see line 33 http://paste.debian.net/72747/
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15:09<babilen>sakax: Run "update-grub2" for good measure and show me the output. What exactly failed during the installation of those kernels? It looks as if they installer quite fine.
15:09<sakax>babilen: do you know how i can trace prior terminal output?
15:10<sakax>i closed my terminal already
15:10<babilen>It is gone then
15:10<sakax>hmm
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15:11<sakax>i will try to reproduce... one moment
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15:12<babilen>sakax: fwiw, I would recommend to *purge* packages rather than just to remove them as you'll end up with lots of outdated configuration files otherwise. See removed-but-not-purged packages with "aptitude search '~c'" and purge them with "aptitude purge '~c'"
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15:14<sakax>thanks babilen see following output http://paste.debian.net/72748/ which i receive when trying to install backported kernel
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15:15<sakax>babilen, see http://paste.debian.net/72750/ i missed the last lines by mistake
15:15<babilen>sakax: Are you sure that you want a 486 kernel? What is your processor? I also think that you have to install the nvidia driver from wheezy-backports if you want one that compiles cleanly against the kernel in backports.
15:16<sakax>it's an old amd sempron from 10 years ago :(
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15:17<babilen>sakax: Well, I guess that the problem is that you have the nvidia driver from stable and that it doesn't compile against the 3.11 kernel. Install the driver from there too.
15:18<sakax>babilen: i think you are right... will try again, thank you :)
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15:20<babilen>sakax: I would recommend to start by installing the nvidia driver from backports. That should be easily done with "aptitude -r -t wheezy-backports install nvidia-dkms"
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15:25<fugit13>sney: thanks for your help today. I eventually downgraded the kernel, iproute, iptabes(required for iproute), ifenslave to the oldstable version and still no joy.
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15:36<sakax>babilen, there is no nvidia dkms related package available in wheezy-backports.... http://paste.debian.net/72754/ includes the output /var/lib/dkms/nvidia/304.88/build/make.log
15:37<sakax>the reason why i tried upgrading the kernel is that this pc is very noisy... it's like all fans are always running at full speed. the motherboard has however cool 'n quiet option but it seems not being used
15:37<musca>v nvidia-driver --release wheezy-backports
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15:38<musca>,v nvidia-driver --release wheezy-backports
15:38<judd>Package: nvidia-driver on i386 -- wheezy-backports/non-free: 319.72-1~bpo70+1
15:38<musca>,v nvidia-kernel-dkms --release wheezy-backports
15:38<judd>Package: nvidia-kernel-dkms on i386 -- wheezy-backports/non-free: 319.72-1~bpo70+1
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15:39<sakax>hmm... it seems non-free was not added in my sources.list for the backport repository
15:39<musca>sakax: installing the package "nvidia-driver" will pull sufficient dependencies to get your stuff running.
15:40<babilen>sakax: I guess that you don't have "contrib non-free" at the end of your backports configuration. There *is* nvidia-dkms in backports
15:41<babilen>judd: v nvidia-backports
15:41<judd>No package named 'nvidia-backports' was found in i386.
15:41<babilen>judd: v nvidia-dkms
15:41<judd>No package named 'nvidia-dkms' was found in i386.
15:41<babilen>argh
15:41<sakax>yes, i found it already... sorry guys!
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15:41<babilen>nvidia-kernel-dkms naturally :)
15:41<sakax>:)
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15:42<sakax>any idea on the noisy fans perhaps? my motherboard MSI K8M Neo-V which has cool 'n quiet
15:43<Ryccardo>is fan speed control implemented partially in a chip running some firmware in parallel like on Apples or it just supports software level speed modulation? :)
15:44<Ryccardo>(complex wording for: are you comparing it to Windows + all preinstalled drivers and junk?)
15:45<sakax>yes, i am comparing the noise level with a windows install which is a lot more quiet
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15:46<sakax>Ryccardo, ^^
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15:46<musca>babilen: nvidia-kernel-dkms is now a dependency of nvidia-driver, so dkms is just default
15:46<Ryccardo>well, you're in case 2 then and need some software speed regulator like `fancontrol` (related with lm-sensors)
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16:43<luc>hello world! ! !
16:43<medd>hello
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16:44<luc>does anyone here has pratice with se linux ???
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16:45<jeffrin>is se = security enhanced
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16:47<sney>!anyone
16:47<dpkg>Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>.
16:47<Ryccardo>yep
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16:51<luc><jeffrin> yes
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16:53<luc>se =security enhanced
16:53<luc>anyone???
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16:55<mgv>luc: ask your actual question
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17:25<amireldor>How do I setup Alt_L to emit an Alt_R? I have no idea with xkb stuff
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18:01<joaomanoel>hellow!
18:02<joaomanoel>how to use kernel-image-3.2.0-4-686-pae-di for debian-installer
18:02<joaomanoel>?
18:03<joaomanoel>debian-installer wheezy init with kernel-image-3.2.0-4-486-di
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18:20<exh>can i downgrade chromium 31.xxx to older version ?
18:20<exh>maybe v28
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18:29<vincent_c>exh: http://snapshot.debian.org/package/chromium-browser/
18:30<exh>thanks
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18:32<vincent_c>exh: just keep in mind that older versions of chromium are not secure (lots of unpatched CVEs)
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18:43<Guest1603>DEBIAN IS SHIT BYE
18:44<Guest1603>EAT MY LINUX KERNEL NIGGERS
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18:47<Guest1603>dox me
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18:50<CHAMBY>debian people
18:50<CHAMBY>how is we?
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18:51<Hydroxide>!social
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18:51<Hydroxide>CHAMBY: we're doing fine, but please direct social chats to #debian-offtopic. this channel is focused on Debian user support.
18:51<Hydroxide>heh.
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18:53<MrSkimbu>Quick question; I’m busy with a minimal installation of gnome3 and Debian. Everything is going ok. But in nautilus I don’t have my own folders (Pictures, Downloads and Documents etc.) Even when I make them with mkdir nautilus and other programs does not picks it up. Any ideas?
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18:57<MrSkimbu>#debian-gnome
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19:02<bassmax>hi all, did you now a workaround for connecting to NFS share based on user, except from LDAP ?
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19:06<bassmax>seems NFSv4 can do the job with kerberos
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19:09<hassen>helllo
19:09<MrSkimbu>Hi, I'm also waiting for an answer..
19:09<MrSkimbu>Pretty dead around here..
19:10<hassen>MrSkimbu: really?
19:11<devil>MrSkimbu: why would it be dead, just because noone's got an answer for you?
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19:13<hassen>i'm using irssi for the first time as a text-based IRC client,it was advised in the start-up screen to log in to this channel
19:14<MrSkimbu>Something like that.
19:15<devil>MrSkimbu: http://askubuntu.com/questions/113736/how-do-i-set-my-default-music-folder
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19:17<MrSkimbu>Devil, thanks for the effort; but I don’t have any folders because I think I did a minimal install but the folder aren’t created.
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19:17<devil>MrSkimbu: I do not think it has to do with minimal or not
19:17<devil>but with gnome as a whole. you could not pay me to use gnome.
19:17<MrSkimbu>Devil, What then? (What do u use?)
19:18<devil>i use kde for at least a decade, but there is lots of others
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19:19<MrSkimbu>Alright.
19:19<hassen>exit
19:19<hassen>duh
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19:19<hassen>connect irc.freenode.net
19:19<bassmax>MrSkimbu, depends on what you look for ...
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19:22<MrSkimbu>Well, I have a relativity new laptop. Hasswel. I have tried everything, the top 15 disto’s but every single one of them had a few problems.
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19:23<devil>MrSkimbu: looking at ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs should give a clue to your prob
19:23<devil>MrSkimbu: the top 15? distrowatch?
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19:24<MrSkimbu>Fedora, Debian, Mint (LMDE and normal) Ubuntu, Arch, Antergos, Korora, Manjaro, Mageia, Voyager, Ubuntu Gnome
19:25<bassmax>devil: I not follow the thread with MrSkimbu but it should be, and nice to know that now !
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19:25<devil>MrSkimbu: distrowatch is in no way an inidicator for quality.
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19:26<bassmax>MrSkimbu: "but every single one of them had a few problems." ... which ones ?...
19:26<luc>is ti possible, run linease2 on linux??????????
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19:26<MrSkimbu>I know, I'm not new to Linux and run it on my server atleast for the past 5 years.
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19:27<MrSkimbu>All those disto's that is pointed out have I tried. All of them had something wrong.
19:27<MrSkimbu>All those disto's that is pointed out have I tried. All of them had something wrong.
19:27<devil>luc: what is it?
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19:27<devil>luc: and save some question marks, they are an endangered species
19:28<luc><devil> lineage2 is a game
19:28<bassmax>devil: haha
19:28<devil>luc: link?
19:28<devil>is there a linux version?
19:28<luc><devil> http://www.google.com.br/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CCoQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lineage2.com%2F&ei=Ohu-UpTNFsq1kQf60IGIBg&usg=AFQjCNF5Jqnw7NzD_5PQHKYW2fAp-dmWWA&sig2=Epfed4bjiTzswXxEPmHn0A&bvm=bv.58187178,d.eW0
19:29<luc><devil> www.lineage2.com/‎
19:30<devil>luc: that looks like an online game?
19:30<devil>no download, no versions
19:30<luc><devil> yes
19:30<bassmax>luc, thru wine depends on the flavour : http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=2273
19:30<devil>but take what I say with a grain of salt, never played a game on pc or otherwise
19:32<MrSkimbu>Thanks, Devil xdg-user-dirs-update was the command I needed.
19:32<luc><bassmax> it says that dont run on my ubuntu 12.04
19:32<MrSkimbu>Now i have my user folders back :)
19:32<MrSkimbu>Thanks, and i wil keep my mouth shut about IRC being dead ;)
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19:32<luc><bassmax> :(
19:33<devil>MrSkimbu: my question is: why hide them in the first place and make people jump through hoops? that's gnome for ya
19:33<bassmax>luc, who says ?
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19:34<devil>luc: btw. : with ubuntu you are in the wrong channel :)
19:35<devil>this is debian only
19:35<luc>ubuntu is debian like
19:35<luc>or not?
19:35<devil>and?
19:35<devil>we do not support ubuntu
19:35<devil>!ubuntuirc
19:35<dpkg>This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server chat.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://chat.freenode.net/ubuntu
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19:39<jesus-arnold>hola
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19:50<sipbysip>My live installation cd is trying to install on by USB instead of my harddrive. How do I change that from sdb to sda?
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19:53<sipbysip>ok partitioned it and it got selected as root system automaticallu
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20:01<exh>i can't install older version of chromium i get dependency is not satisfiable: libc6 (>=2.15)
20:01<exh>i have libc6 2.13 version
20:02<exh>i don't get i why do i need newer version for older chromium
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20:02<exh>if last version of chromium works as is wit that file
20:03<exh>with*
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20:03<petn-randall>exh: You're mixing stable with something else ...
20:03<exh>no i am not
20:03<exh>afaik
20:04<petn-randall>!bat
20:04<dpkg>In order for us to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: The complete output of your apt-get/aptitude/dselect run (including the command you used); the output from apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2...; for the relevant packages and "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>.
20:04<petn-randall>exh: Can you paste this ^^^^ info?
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20:07<exh>petn-randall, i use gdebi for installation
20:08<exh>petn-randall, http://paste.debian.net/72788/
20:08<petn-randall>exh: So you've downloaded the package from somewhere?
20:08<exh>nothing to see there
20:08<exh>yes i did
20:08<exh>i am trying to downgrade
20:08<petn-randall>exh: You're missing the output of 'apt-cache policy', without further parameters.
20:09<exh>from here http://snapshot.debian.org/package/chromium-browser/
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20:09<exh>one version lower than the last one
20:10<exh>petn-randall, http://paste.debian.net/72789/
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20:11<petn-randall>exh: Stable ships with a stable chromium browser, why not use that?
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20:12<exh>petn-randall, because i have some userscripts broken with official version
20:12<exh>and i know that they work on older one
20:12<petn-randall>,v chromium-browser
20:12<judd>Package: chromium-browser on i386 -- squeeze: 6.0.472.63~r59945-5+squeeze6; squeeze-security: 6.0.472.63~r59945-5+squeeze6; wheezy: 31.0.1650.63-1~deb7u1; wheezy-security: 31.0.1650.63-1~deb7u1
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20:14<petn-randall>exh: Err ... wheezy comes with the current chromium?
20:14<exh>if i install it then yes
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20:16<petn-randall>exh: You don't need gdebi for that, just use your $packagemanager.
20:16<exh>i would if i know how :)
20:17<exh>ok i'll search
20:17<exh>tnx
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20:18<petn-randall>exh: Which desktop are you running?
20:18<exh>DE?
20:18<exh>mate 1.6
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20:19<petn-randall>....
20:19<petn-randall>!mate
20:19<dpkg>The MATE Desktop Environment is a fork of GNOME 2 to keep its development active. MATE is not supported in #debian, see <why not mate>. http://mate-desktop.org/ #mate on chat.freenode.net. Possibly soon in Debian, see http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=pkg-mate-team@lists.alioth.debian.org
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20:21<exh>you think it would work on my default xfce
20:21<exh>i can logout and try
20:21<exh>but i am suspicious
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20:27<exh>petn-randall, one more question is it possible that by installing mate i broke my system?
20:27<exh>if so than i won't use it
20:27<petn-randall>exh: Could be, but only Mate can tell you that.
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20:41<tyler>how do i connect wifi in debian 7.3?
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20:42<stelicho>Hello all! I'm still pretty new to debian and I don't really know how to set up ssh. I did a fresh install of wheezy onto an older machine and installed openssh. I tried to connect remotely with "ssh user@ipadress" but it doesn't work. where should I start?
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20:43<stelicho>tyler: are you using gui or shell?
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20:44<stelicho>gnome?
20:44<tyler>02:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter (rev 01)
20:44<tyler> Subsystem: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device 8211
20:44<tyler> Flags: fast devsel, IRQ 17
20:44<tyler> I/O ports at 2000 [size=256]
20:44<tyler> Memory at b8400000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
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21:24<rudi_s>stelicho: Start by explaining "doesn't work". What error message? Network works? ping works?
21:25<vincent_c>stelicho: make sure you have openssh-server installed on the machine you're connecting to (not just -client)
21:25<vincent_c>if you've setup a firewall, make sure you check that too
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21:48<bugtraq>hola
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22:20<hyperreal>hi bugtraq
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22:36<jimpop>any good place to get a nginx 1.5 deb for wheezy?
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22:37<abrotman>jimpop: 1.5.x isn't packaged at all for Debian, you can try /msg dpkg uupdate
22:37<jimpop>rgr that. thx
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23:23<oftcness>2v2 on fast
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23:27<oftcness>2v2 pcw sv on
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23:40<oftcness>We played Aura Kingdom already, and then I got to level 42 and everyone quit, so even if I wanted to level up doing whatever shitty dungeons there are to do, I would have to do it with pubs, which I refuse
23:40<oftcness>Also, not much point in getting to level cap there now
23:40<oftcness>Shibo
23:40<oftcness>we can 2-man GG
23:40<oftcness>it will be wiped anyway
23:40<oftcness>w
23:41<oftcness>Oh and the daily quest for that is decent exp at least
23:41<oftcness>I see how people managed to grind to 50
23:41<oftcness>but yeah, pointless
23:41<oftcness>need mixer now
23:41<oftcness>need a better new mmo
23:41<oftcness>get me mixer
23:41<oftcness>mix me mix me
23:42<oftcness>We do need one, aren't the us kids on winter break or something right now?
23:42<oftcness>what other mmos were on the list of it's happening
23:42<oftcness>How come there is only one "big" new mmo?
23:42<oftcness>what the fuck is up with that?
23:42<oftcness>Cele mai stabile, ieftine ReSeller/Shells/Radio/iRCD/EggDrop/Mech/Muh/psyBNC/sBNC gasesti doar la #BestHost wWw.BestHost.Se
23:42<oftcness>k
23:42<oftcness>the fuck is this now
23:43<oftcness>mixer?
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23:44<LtL>oftcness: who or what are you talking about?
23:44<bjb>I was just wondering if Aura Kingdom is a debian package
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23:45<balewness>It probably is.
23:45<balewness>3 on 3 server on/off
23:46<balewness>[23:41] <Waah> I see how people managed to grind to 50
23:46<balewness>they
23:46<balewness>afk in one spot
23:46<balewness>3 on 3 server on/off
23:46<balewness>for 2 hours
23:46<balewness>http://i.4cdn.org/a/src/1388205474955.gif
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23:46<balewness>3 on 3 server on/off
23:46<balewness>literally all you need to do
23:46<balewness>calue2 is Cornelia
23:46<balewness>I like to sit on people who are afking just to take their exp
23:46<balewness>scrim cod2 war 5v5
23:46<balewness>scrim cod2 war 5v5
23:46<balewness>because fuck them.
23:47<balewness>scrim cod2 war 5v5
23:47<balewness>1v1
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23:47<bjb>thanks for saving me the trouble of asking for less swearing
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23:49<SamB>bjb: that would have been pretty pointless; the entity seemed almost entirely unresponsive ...
23:49<snogglethorpe>i thought surely debhelper would have an automatic pattern for that...
23:50<bjb>Well I couldn't find Aura Kingdom in apt-cache search which would have been my other approach
23:51<bjb>a-c search aura turned up nothing related, and a-c search kingdom turned up wesnoth which doesn't seem to be "aura kingdom"
23:51<bjb>but I could be wrong, I don't do those games
23:53<bjb>oh, there's a new (to me) one: 7kaa
23:55*bjb goes back to her own game: trying to figure out how to backup android apps without using a cloud server. Whatever happened to backing stuff up to your own machine? Bleah.
23:55<snogglethorpe>bjb: can't you just copy from the filesystem attached via usb or something?
23:56<SamB>snogglethorpe: lol
23:56<SamB>n00b
23:56<snogglethorpe>TT
23:56<bjb>Ah, but how do I know where the app saved its data? And/or what format?
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23:56<snogglethorpe>bjb: "find"...? ^^;
23:56<bjb>But, I suppose this isn't debian topic
23:56<SamB>copying in the OTHER direction would be more likely to work ...
23:56<SamB>if you could get a complete-enough tar and root access
23:56<bjb>also I have to use adb, my phone isn't a mass storage device
23:57<bjb>I have cyanogenmod on the phone
23:57<snogglethorpe>i admit, i've never attempted to mount my phone over usb
23:57<bjb>not a problem.
23:57<snogglethorpe>(i just copy files into google drive or something)
23:57<SamB>(that is, can tar record all the special filesystem metadata needed by Android stuff?)
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23:58<bjb>Ah ... my objective is to upgrade android and restore my data
23:58<snogglethorpe>some apps are truly annoying tho, e.g., my phone has a backup function for SMS messages, but it manages to make these huge directory trees to hold them, organized in annoying ways
23:58<bjb>so I'd rather not save all the apps
23:59<snogglethorpe>does android really even have a generalized concept like that?
23:59<snogglethorpe>my impression was that it was sort of up to each app individually...
23:59<snogglethorpe>[i wish it _did_ have a general backup function!]
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