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#debian IRC Logs for 2013-12-30

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00:08<alguien>we can get it down to one language at least
00:08<alguien>http://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Pythoneol this one's for spanish
00:08<alguien>woot
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00:20<alumno>HOLa
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00:40<snogglethorpe>it just seems a little dodgy they took NSF money and then claimed the product as their exclusive property...
00:40<alguien>ohhh
00:40<alguien>hmmm
00:40<alguien>indeed
00:41<snogglethorpe>i mean, maybe the NSF allows that, i dunno...
00:41<alguien>well i've been around megalomaniacs who would not bat an eye doing that
00:41<snogglethorpe>but it seems like maybe it shouldn't
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00:42<snogglethorpe>i imagine the rules were made back when people never really thought about such things
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00:47<mkelly>hey
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00:51<SamB>all I can say is evidently the DOE had a reasonable grant policy; I believe we owe Maxima and the publicly-available DSSSL spec to them?
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01:22<derpsauce>What do I have to do to get hardware accelerated video on an Intel 4500?
01:23<derpsauce>When I try it in VLC, 80% of the image is corrupted
01:23<devil_>derpsauce: kernel 3.12 might help
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01:25<derpsauce>devil_: I thought testing only comes with .11
01:25<devil_>derpsauce: .12 shouild be in experimental
01:26<devil_>gotta run, later
01:26<derpsauce>ciao
01:27<amireldor>hello
01:28<amireldor>is it possible that gnome-settings-daemon is not controlling my life as it should be? and letting Xorg control the keyboard modifiers?
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01:33<MeanderingCode>what could make a dvd eject automatically when it is first spun up (being read?) after insertion?
01:33<MeanderingCode>how would i troubleshoot? nothing seems to be written about it in /var/log
01:35<MeanderingCode>(consumer video dvd)
01:39<kingsley_>MeanderingCode: I can imagine several reasons for a DVD to be automatically ejected.
01:40<MeanderingCode>do tell
01:40<MeanderingCode>(it reads cds fine. i know it /used/ to read data dvds i had burned
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01:40<MeanderingCode>have none on-hand to check
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01:41<kingsley_>1.) An unreadable DVD. It might be dirty, scratched, or protected. Maybe you could test it in another DVD drive.
01:41<MeanderingCode>unfortunately, it's the only dvd drive in the house, atm.
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01:41<MeanderingCode>it's new out of the box, and i installed libdvdcss from deb-multimedia
01:41<MeanderingCode>(not that that's a guarantee)
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01:42<kingsley_>2.) The DVD drive can not read this type of DVD. If you look up the drive's specifications on line, you should be able to find which DVD formats it supports. Maybe you could compare them to the format used by the DVD.
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01:46<kingsley_>3.) A software bug. Maybe you could try different software, whether that would involve a different OS (Live CD on a USB) or application, like k3b.
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01:49<derpsauce>How do I get 100Mbps+ Wi-Fi throughput? I'm seeing speeds of ~25Mbps
01:49<derpsauce>WLAN card is an Intel 5300
01:50<MeanderingCode>hmmm. odd, not being able to read the type of disc, but i'll have a look. w/ software...that might get painful, but...i'm not even trying to read it in an application (that i'm running purposely)
01:50<MeanderingCode>i insert it, the disc starts spinning, then stops and ejects
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01:53<MeanderingCode>specs should be fine for a commercial video dvd
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02:20<DeepBlue>and how to set Mate as default windowmanager in Debian?
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04:32<jaccob>When I installed my system, I mean to to install my home directory to a separate partition but i made a mistake and I am too lazy to re-install or re-partition, so now I have /home/username/ and /anotherpartion which mounted on /home/username/hm, Now when i use the file manager or I click file open in an application it shows those shortcuts in the side pane to directories that I am not using, so i wanted to know if I can create sym links bet
04:32<jaccob>ween directory, so if I cd or click in the side pane /home/username/Downloads, it would instead open /home/username/Hm/downloads
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04:43<jaccob>nevermind, I got the answer on the other channel, thx anyway
04:43<user74747>Why don't you mount the partition to "~/Downloads" in the first place? Btw, if you used the standard Debian installer tto partition you
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04:43<babilen>dpkg: cross post
04:43<dpkg>Posting the same question in several places at the same time (IRC channels, news groups, mailing lists, forums) is impolite; your time is NOT more valuable than everyone else's. Your question might be answered elsewhere, meanwhile we are wasting our time doing research for a problem you've already solved. Cross-posting can also make you look like a spammer and get you k:lined. See also <multiple ask> <hurry>.
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04:44<babilen>jaccob: fwiw, you might want to look into LVM
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04:51<jaccob>babilen, thx, what's fwiw, actually, i added the disk to fstab or something, and I am only system user, so I think I am fine, but if it were multiuser, it would probably better to learn lvm eh, so all system users get created in the partition I mentioned, right?
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04:53<jaccob>mstab or stab, I forget which one it was
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04:53<jaccob>sorry, fstab I mean
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04:53<babilen>jaccob: fwiw means "for what it's worth" -- LVN is a great tool as it allows you to manage logical volumes separate from physical ones. In this case it would have allowed you to use physical space from two volumes together in one logical volume (which is then mounted as /home)
04:54<babilen>jaccob: There is a pretty good articule on Wikipedia with a good picture to explain this.
04:54<jaccob>thx, yep I was reading that
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04:59<user74747>Not that I can't solve it by myself, just while jaccob raised this topic: I used the standard Debian installer to partition my disk, now fdisk -l says something like "partition limits are not on sector/track edge, your hdd will work ineffeciently, reformat it" or something like that. I didn't change any fine settings, except for size. Was it a bug or should I have made some magical calculations with the sizes before choosing Next?
05:00<jaccob>user74747, sounds really bad situation needing action by my guess
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05:06<jaccob>user74747, is your disk larger than 2tb?
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05:07<jaccob>for larger than 2tb we have to use a new partition system, under 2tb you can use the old mbr style but for greater than 2tb you have to use a new guid I think it is called system
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05:21<user74747>No, it's not larger than 2tb, but it's a laptop hdd, I had to install a few of the new drivers that were not in the repos, for videocard and wifi, maybe that was the case with the hdd too? I mean. some new extensions that ithe installer couldn't handle very well, but how would this affect the sizes?
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05:22<babilen>user74747: Yes, partition alignment is an issue that can affect performance. There's a nice discussion on superuser, but it's easy to get around by aligning at, say, 1MB
05:22<babilen>user74747: http://superuser.com/questions/393914/what-is-partition-alignment-and-why-whould-i-need-it (but search for "partition alignment" as there are many great resources about this)
05:22<babilen>brb
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05:28<citizen53>hello
05:28<citizen53>any smartmontool expert present? :P
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05:29<citizen53>Im using the following line: /dev/sda -a -p -u -d sat -n standby -o on -S on -W 0,45,50 -s (S/../.././02|L/../../1/03) -m me@bla.com -M daily -M exec /usr/share/smartmontools/smartd-runner
05:29<citizen53>-M test works, mail is delivered
05:29<citizen53>but I'm never actually receiving any notifications
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05:30<user74747>babilen: Thank you! I think the values were not in whole megabytes, which was set by the installer, iirc (can't imagine why I would have gone it). Or, maybe, it just crossed my mind, it was in decimal megs. That is, I typed the desired size in the size field -> it is interpreted as decimal megs -> not whole binary megs partition sizes.
05:30<citizen53>its running alright, I get messages in /var/log/syslog
05:30<SynrG>are you mailed other reports? (i.e. does mail work?)
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05:31<citizen53>SynrG: yes, -M test works and I can use mail command from the terminal: echo "test" | mail -s etc
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05:32<SynrG>dunno. i use smartd in conjunction with logcheck, so the tool itself is not sending the emails
05:33<SynrG>it's a more general solution ... but takes some fiddling with to weed out "junk" notifications
05:35<citizen53>SynrG: you have no idea how long I've fiddled with smartmontools to get it to mail without a local MTA
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05:36<citizen53>and now that it works its not sending anything
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05:37<veindrain>is it normal to have both squid and squid3 scripts in init.d/ ?
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05:39<SynrG>veindrain: do you have access to the mail queue at me@bla.com so you could check it?
05:39<SynrG>s/veindrain/citizen53/ sorry
05:40<SynrG>veindrain: sounds like a transition
05:40<SynrG>probably didn't have the old version purged
05:40<SynrG>check for residual confs for your old version.
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05:40<veindrain>SynrG: hm thats odd tbh
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05:41<veindrain>SynrG: You think removing and purging both would solve it ? I don't mind reconfiguring
05:41<SynrG>i don't know. it may be one of two situations:
05:42<SynrG>either the 'squid3' package replaced an older 'squid' package or so ...
05:43<SynrG>or else in the rename the old confs are deliberately left there in case something 'precious' is in there
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05:44<veindrain>SynrG: either way i kiss them goodbye, it's not that much to reconfigure, iptables are already setup
05:44<SynrG>veindrain: you can use dpkg -S to see if any old package 'owns' the confs
05:45<SynrG>oh, wait, in init.d?
05:45<SynrG>yeah, i would definitely say one or the other (old *or* new) squid packages owns /etc/init.d/squid3 (if that's indeed what it is called)
05:45<SynrG>and you want to be careful not to hand remove
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05:46<SynrG>(for a moment there i forgot you were talking about the init scripts, and was just thinking /etc)
05:46<veindrain>SynrG: letme check etc too
05:46<SynrG>veindrain: and check dpkg -l 'squid*' looking for an old squid with 'rc' in first 2 columns
05:47<SynrG>indicating it is marked for removal and has residual configsw
05:47<SynrG>configs*
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05:47<veindrain>SynrG: etc has both too. extra hint: it has squidtail too if that's of any help
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05:49<SynrG>veindrain: my best guess is that the "real" confs belong to squid3 which you currently have installed and the old stuff belongs to "squid" which exists from a long time ago (lenny?)
05:49<veindrain>SynrG: just run dpkg -I 'squid*' and iut returns : dpkg-deb: error: failed to read archive `squid*': No such file or directory
05:49<SynrG>veindrain: this is why cut-and-paste is superior
05:50<SynrG>veindrain: also, i highly recommend you change your font you use with irc to one where you can distinguish capital I from lowercase l
05:50<veindrain>SynrG: loool i blame pidgin
05:51<SynrG>veindrain: so am i right? is this a system that has existed since at least lenny and been upgraded ever since?
05:52<SynrG>if so, you may find *other* cruft of a similar nature (init scripts or otherwise) that has accumulated ... you might want to do a review
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05:52<veindrain>SynrG: no no it's a fresh wheezy installation
05:52<SynrG>ah. then i don't know.
05:53<veindrain>SynrG: but running your dpkg command i see squid and squid3
05:53<SynrG>,v squid
05:53<judd>Package: squid on i386 -- squeeze: 2.7.STABLE9-2.1; jessie: 2.7.STABLE9-4.1; sid: 2.7.STABLE9-4.1; wheezy: 2.7.STABLE9-4.1
05:53<SynrG>i see.
05:53<SynrG>,v squid3
05:53<judd>Package: squid3 on i386 -- squeeze: 3.1.6-1.2+squeeze3; squeeze-security: 3.1.6-1.2+squeeze3; wheezy: 3.1.20-2.2; jessie: 3.3.8-1.1; sid: 3.3.8-1.1
05:54<SynrG>curiously, they do not conflict
05:55<SynrG>veindrain: if they're both marked 'ii' i guess you have a decision to make :)
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05:55<veindrain>SynrG: yeah :)
05:56<SynrG>but in review:
05:56<SynrG>dpkg -S /etc/init.d/squid
05:56<dpkg>You Fool! /etc/init.d/squid is installed!
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05:56<SynrG>and dpkg -S /etc/init.d/squid3
05:56<SynrG>tells you the packages these belong to
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05:57<SynrG>we got there by a kind of round about way
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05:58<SynrG>(based partly on my bad guesses :p)
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05:58<veindrain>SynrG: hehe well, squid-> and squid3->squid3
05:59<veindrain>SynrG: sorry i mean squid->squid and squid3->squid3
05:59<luke>hi!
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06:08<veindrain>SynrG: removed and purged squid now squid3 starts and works. i still have to remove its cgi,common and langpack. and it popped a warning about /var/spool/squid in purge that it's not empty, i will have to remove it by hand i guess
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06:16<bassmax>Hi all. For firewalling : Is there any good reason (headaches vs benefit) to set outgoing firewall rules by services (whitelisting) instead of setting all to ACCEPT
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06:16<ichdasich>bassmax: yes. you will however always have to use contack then.
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06:19<bassmax>ichdasich: contack? you mean coontrack ?
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06:20<SynrG>veindrain: yes. because /var stuff is data created by the application, dpkg has no idea whether that is "precious" to you or not ... it takes the conservative approach to leave it untouched
06:20<SynrG>veindrain: by-hand removal is appropriate in this case.
06:21<SynrG>(once the package that formerly owned it is truly purged)
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06:23<bassmax>ichdasich: I would precise that's for a desktop box.
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07:53<falematte>hi all, I have a crash when I launch google earth in Ubuntu 12.04
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07:53<SynrG>!ubuntuirc falematte
07:53<dpkg>falematte: This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server chat.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://chat.freenode.net/ubuntu
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08:23<slept>I assumed , that installing a printer is a pretty common thing for a desktop install. Anyhow with a fresh testing install gnome tells me that there is no service available. Checking with dpkg -l, libcups2:amd64 is installed... What am I missing?
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08:24<ompaul>slept: apt-cache search cups-*
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08:25<ompaul>slept: apt-cache search cups- (sorry that * is my common typo today ... ())
08:25<HECTOR>HOLA
08:25<HECTOR>QUE ASES
08:25<HECTOR>JI
08:25<ompaul>!es
08:25<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
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08:27<slept>ompaul, thanks. I know. In my oppinion this is a grave functionallity bug. But I wanted to make sure hat it is not due to my own shortcommings. So the bug should be filed against task-gnome-desktop I assume?
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08:28<SynrG>no
08:28<ompaul>slept: it is neither grave nor a functionality bug
08:28<SynrG>there is a "printer" task. i think it is selected by default
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08:29<SynrG>and even if it isn't, i still don't consider it a bug.
08:29<ompaul>printers are no longer a given and to install printer supporting software would be a bug
08:29<slept>SynrG, there isn't
08:29<SynrG>there was
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08:30<ompaul>anyway all that being hypothetical nattering the question in my mind is have you got a working printer or not?
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08:30<SynrG>for every person who complains "why no printers by default?" there will be one who complains "why unnecessary services started by default?" ... there's no pleasing everyone.
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08:31<lzzluca>a_
08:31<fotostudiojovana>hello debian based people!
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08:31<babilen>s/based//
08:31<fotostudiojovana>how can i permanently
08:32<fotostudiojovana>put my hdd mounted for local users
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08:32<fotostudiojovana>i am confused a bit in uuid.... inside of fstab
08:32<slept>I assume printers to be available. Have you ever seen any office without a printer?
08:32<SynrG>fotostudiojovana: ask the support channel for your distro
08:32<fotostudiojovana>sung ok
08:33<babilen>fotostudiojovana: It would make it much easier to follow you if you would simply use punctuation characters in lieu of the enter key. :) -- Which distribution do you use?
08:33<SynrG>slept: have you ever seen a computer that isn't in an office?
08:33<SynrG>slept: have you ever seen a computer that isn't a desktop system?
08:34*abrotman raises his hand!!!
08:34<fotostudiojovana>babilen: weezy
08:34*abrotman boggles ..
08:35<SynrG>fotostudiojovana: wheezy is not merely "debian based", but is debian. so i was confused by your greeting.
08:35<citizen53>this irc chat program drives me insane. each time i switch to another channel its back to the top and I have to scroll down first
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08:36<slept>SynrG, Sure, both. But most people have a printer. I don't want to argue. but still this is quite unexpected. From sarge on till now I didn't have to consider printers as non-standard ...
08:36<babilen>dpkg: tell fotostudiojovana about uuid
08:36<SynrG>slept: nobody's arguing whether they are common or not. the question is whether not installing it by default is a bug or not.
08:36<SynrG>it isn't
08:36<babilen>fotostudiojovana: It simply is an identifier that is specific to a filesystem and its advised to use that rather than, say, /dev/sdb6 as the latter might change.
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08:38<ompaul>slept: do you have a working printer, yes or no please, if this is just nattering about if it is essential or not then do tell us if you have filed or contributed to a bug?
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08:39<fotostudiojovana>babilen: thnx, ill try edit my fstab... if not success all be back
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08:40<slept>ompaul, I do. The whole point is, that this seems to be unitentional to me - maybe a forgotten dependency? Why would I have libcups2 installed by default but print is considered optional.
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08:42<ompaul>because of the range of things above that you may need to support any one printer, it may have escaped your notice that LPT is not really how printers work any more and the divergence of printers and filters is quite an amount to foist on a single machine and you might still miss one.
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08:43<ompaul>which is a different bug ...
08:43<slept>well cups seemed to be good at this
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08:44<fotostudiojovana>babilen: insteed writing /dev/sda3 i write UUID=something?
08:44<babilen>yes, use "blkid" to get an overview of filesystems and their UUID
08:44<glycol>does anyone have an idea why does gnome-control-center crash when trying to select an alert sound under "Sound" that isn't "Default" when "Default" is selected? I can hear every alert sound except for the default one
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08:46<slept>ompaul, if gnome has a button for printer setup it must install the software needed, otherwise it is a grave bug: 'makes the package in question unusable by most or all users'. Do you agree?
08:48<glycol>solved it, problem was that "sound-theme-freedesktop" wasn't installed
08:48<ompaul>slept: how is that a debian / printer problem it's gnome making assumptions again.
08:48<slept>true
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08:54<slept>ompaul, but wouldn't this require the gnome maintainer(s) to live up to these asumptions?
08:55<ompaul>slept: I've discussed it more than enough you know where the bug filing is done
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08:57<slept>ok, sorry to annoy you.
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09:12<papaburs>hello all
09:12<papaburs>Is there a fork of Debian that is not using systemd?
09:12<papaburs>I would like to avoid following the jimjones of linux.
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09:13<Ganneff>thats oh-so-useful, with Debian not using systemd by default.
09:13<papaburs>I know sysinitv, I've used it forever, it works fine, and I would like to maintain stability
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09:13<babilen>papaburs: Ubuntu comes to mind
09:13<papaburs>Ganneff: as far as I read, Debian will be transitioning to system-v by default "soon"
09:14<babilen>what?
09:14<Ganneff>or to upstart. or to none of them.
09:14<papaburs>and it's fiat-complete and there is nothing we users, sysadmins, so on and so forth can do about it
09:14<Ganneff>i wonder what you read, but thats not decided.
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09:15<papaburs>I read the mailing lists, before that the articles, and more recently more articles
09:15<papaburs>the feeling from a dec 29th posting is that debain is going systemd weather we like it or not
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09:16<papaburs>I read lennart pottering's posts here and there too, he is convinced he is a prophet it seems.
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09:17<papaburs>his way of doingthings is the one true path and the unix way was good in the past but now is subsumed in him
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09:17<papaburs>ie: judiasm subsumed by christianity subsumed by islam, subsumed by science, subsumed by unix
09:17<papaburs>all subsumed by systemd and lennart.
09:17<Ganneff>i currently wouldnt bet on either systemd or upstart, from following -ctte (not too closely). also, whatever one thinks about one upstream somewhere isnt ontopic here
09:17<Ganneff>keep it to you
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09:18<papaburs>Ganneff: my opinion is the same as a variety of others in the mailing list
09:19<papaburs>they said it first, not me :P
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09:19<Ganneff>it stays offtopic in here
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09:20<papaburs>there's a saying: if it isn't broke, don't fix it. sysinitv has worked for 30 years, and hasn't been broken those 30 years.
09:20<papaburs>it's not broken now, we all know it, it's easy to edit and hack on the init scripts.
09:21<@Ganneff>it has several problems. now, none of that is ontopic here. topic is debian support. so if you dont have a debian question:
09:21<@Ganneff>!ot
09:21<dpkg>#debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day.
09:21<papaburs>so asking nicely for debian to not go JonesTown is off topic?
09:21<@Ganneff>in here, yes.
09:21<papaburs>to not make an indelable break with the unix way?
09:22<papaburs>oh so it's fiat-complete then
09:22<papaburs>you're going systemd
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09:23<fotostudiojovana_>babilen: i succied with mounting automatically drive, but now i see one more drive that say it is unable to mount
09:23<snogglethorpe>man, sysvinit has fanboys?!
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09:23<greg>there is to be no discussion amongst the proles (mere users)
09:23<fotostudiojovana_>fstab last line: UUID=xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx /media/sda2 ext2 rw,user,auto 0 2
09:23<greg>youre drinking the koolade and we will too!
09:24<greg>systemD! lennart pottering is god!
09:24<greg>fuck the unix way!
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09:27<slept>fotostudiojovana_, is that the device that can't be mounted? What is the error message?
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09:28<fotostudiojovana_>babilen: Unable to mount sda2, mount: /dev/sda2 already mounted or /media/sda2 busy, mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda2 is already mounted on /media/sda2
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09:30<fotostudiojovana_>babilen: sda2 is that drive according the blkid
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09:31<slept>fotostudiojovana_, umount /dev/sda2; mount -a
09:32<fotostudiojovana_>slept:
09:32<fotostudiojovana_>/media/sda2: device is busy.
09:32<fotostudiojovana_> (In some cases useful info about processes that use
09:32<fotostudiojovana_> the device is found by lsof(8) or fuser(1))
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09:32<fotostudiojovana_>:) ups
09:32<@Ganneff>!paste
09:32<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>.
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09:33<fotostudiojovana_>Ganneff: i will pastbin :)
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09:37<slept>fotostudiojovana_, are you sure sda2 is the device you want to mount? before adding things to fstab you can allways try to use mount on the comand line. If you can see the device in your desktop environment and mount it by clicking you can copy the according line from /etc/mtab to /etc/fstab
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09:37<slept>fotostudiojovana_, with fdisk -l you can identify the partitions by size and filesistem if you are not sure about that
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09:42<fotostudiojovana_>slept: it looks like somehow /dev/sda2 mounted alredy before, but in fstab there is only one line that says about /sdb2 to be monted
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09:44<slept>fotostudiojovana_, are you sure /dev/sda2 is the right device? and not / or somethingelse?
09:46<fotostudiojovana_>yes :(
09:47<fotostudiojovana_>all paste bin fstab in a while
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09:50<slept>fotostudiojovana_, look at the output of mount to see where it is mounted to
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10:01<fotostudiojovana_>slept: http://pastebin.com/9KVBjHiT
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10:11<fotostudiojovana_>need someone to help me with double mounting partition
10:11<fotostudiojovana_>http://pastebin.com/9KVBjHiT
10:13<fotostudiojovana_>i did mkdir /media/sda2
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10:39<lamb>Is there a #debian* channel I can ask for software recommendations for certain tasks in Debian?
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10:43<babilen>lamb: This would be fine, but there are a lot of websites dedicated to that task and you might simply be able to help yourself.
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10:43<ompaul>lamb: check out debian popcon and doing a comparison with apt-cache search task
10:43<ompaul>like apt-cache search cms and then take the results into popcon
10:44<lamb>thanks
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10:45<babilen>dpkg: tell lamb -about search
10:45<babilen>dpkg: tell lamb -about debtags
10:46<babilen>lamb: I didn't mean to discourage you from asking your actual question, but simply wanted to point out that investigating yourself is an option :)
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10:47<lamb>babilen: duly noted. I can do my research, yes, and the tips help; though I guess sometimes one needs advice from an actual human rather than a machine :p
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10:50<rostam>hi I am not sure if this is a right place to ask. So forgive me in advance. I would like to unmount the filesystem on my linux box when reboot command issued. Is this possible? thx
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10:52<abrotman>that should happen already .. which linux is this?
10:53<ompaul>rostam: why do you think it doesn't?
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10:54<ompaul>lamb: the one thing not to do is to ask "does anyone use X" but to say I am using X and want it to do Y, I've done Z and the result appears to be A and B but not C :) that helps lots
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10:56<rostam>ompaul, sometimes after issuing reboot command. My system is stopped at the grup menu.
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10:58<ompaul>rostam: that has nothing do with keeping something mounted unless you have a syslog entry to show this, usually big delays are network problems, unless this is a network attached storage device
10:59<ompaul>rostam: so some more info about the setup might help
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10:59<babilen>lamb: Sure, and we are all willing to give it, but you have to at least tell us what you are looking for ;)
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11:01<rostam>ompaul, first thanks for trying to help out, may be I am thinking about this problem wrong. The main issue is sometimes after reboot command, my system gets stuck at grub menu. I thought may be is file system corruption during reboot ...
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11:02<lamb>babilen and ompaul - thanks. I was a bit afraid because I don't even have the "I'm using X or Y" yet - I'm searching for which X or Y to use. I've been using Linux for a good while already, but only recently I noticed I haven't picked any software to handle my personal finances with it.
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11:03<lamb>I know and have seen both Grisbi and Gnucash, but never used any of them (or any other, TBH) proper
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11:05<babilen>lamb: Sorry, not my area of expertise. If everything else fails: Just give both a try and see how far that gets you. But lets see what the internet says about this
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11:06*lamb sees in popcon gnucash is more popular and installs seem to be... more regular(?), if anything. So I'll prioritize gnucash to experiment :p
11:06<ompaul>lamb: given that it really depends on how complex you are and your locale, if a day cash / sales book and general ledger approach is sufficient then I'd suggest using libreoffice
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11:06<babilen>lamb: There are also some alternatives when you search for, say, "debtags search office::finance"
11:07<babilen>lamb: gnucash is probably older and more established, but that doesn't necessarily mean that grisbi (and the other alternatives) are bad.
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11:08<babilen>lamb: Well, the last grisbi release seems to have been two years ago and I haven't really heard about it. My gut feeling so far is to recommend gnucash over it, but you might appreciate features present in one of the alternatives that are missing in gnucash
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11:09<lamb>Hmmm, worry not, I'll be testing
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11:10<babilen>that's the spirit :)
11:11<lamb>Also maybe I'm searching wrong but debtags on "finance" does not show gnucash, but does show gnucash-docs
11:12<babilen>wfm :-/ (on sid)
11:12<SynrG>lamb: debtags search field::finance
11:13<lamb>aaaah, thanks SynrG
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11:13*lamb has the disk to spare, perhaps should install everything and worry later :p
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11:14<babilen>lamb: My recommendation would be gnucash
11:14<lamb>babilen: thanks
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11:16<Guest1866>hello
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11:19<Blizzbob>hey guys, i wrote a skript which shows if my server is online or not. It works in the console. how do i start the skript when i boot the pc. i used ln -s /path/skript.py /etc/rc2.d/S95skript but i didn't work
11:20<abrotman>dpkg: tell Blizzbob about run at startup
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11:38<luguo>?
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11:43<rino>bonjour
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11:53<mib_nimka8>Hey there !
11:53<mib_nimka8>Can someone help me out with a very simple question about partitions ?
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11:55<mib_nimka8>sure there must be someone in these 8351 users here who can help me out...
11:55<blast007>mib_nimka8: you have to ask the question first....
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11:56<mib_nimka8>allright, I have a new ssd, and i'm partitioning it now. It has a boot partition, win partition and now i want to make 2 linux partitions (on windos using the built in partitioning tool)
11:57<mib_nimka8>now the last linux partition keeps getting to be a logical one
11:57<mib_nimka8>but i think that there can be 4 primary partitions on an ssd/hdd
11:57<mib_nimka8>why is it made logical instead of primary ?
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12:01<blast007>why not just do the paritioning within the Debian installer?
12:02<SynrG>so a) you're using a windows partitioning tools, so see ##windows @ freenode for support with that, b) if you're installing debian, why not just use partman (the partitioner in the debian installer)? and c) it doesn't really matter whether it's logical or primary, except if you make it primary, you'll run out of partitions sooner
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12:04<mib_nimka8>I know I'm using windows... but partition management isn't really OS specific right ? All those partition programs should do basically ther same ...
12:05<SynrG>mib_nimka8: are you installing debian?
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12:05<SynrG>and no, you are mistaken. each piece of software behaves the way the authors thought was best.
12:06<SynrG>they don't have to all agree
12:06<SynrG>and they may not perceive they even have the same potential users, and so might be deliberately building things differently for different perceived end users.
12:07<mib_nimka8>hmm... ok
12:07<SynrG>so, if you're trying to install debian, we can help with partioning using the debian installer
12:07<SynrG>otherwise, see ##windows @ irc.freenode.net for help with the windows partitioner
12:07<SynrG>or else the support channel for the distro you're trying to install if you want to use their tool
12:08<SynrG>we each support the software that we know and use ourselves.
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12:08<mib_nimka8>allright
12:08<mib_nimka8>thx anyway :)
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12:11<atlantis68>ciao a tutti
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12:12<atlantis68>!list
12:12<dpkg>atlantis68: Debian è un sistema operativo composto da software libero (un concetto distinto da quello di gratis): vedi http://www.debian.org/intro/free.it.html per saperne di più.
12:13<atlantis68>quit
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12:32<derzis>hi
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12:33<derzis>stie cineva roamneste/
12:33<derzis>stie cineva romaneste?
12:33<sney>derzis, this is an english channel for debian users
12:34<derzis>ok
12:34<derzis>i know
12:34<abrotman>!ro
12:34<dpkg>Pentru ajutor in limba romana va rugam vizitati #debian-ro pe irc.oftc.net. Romanian users: for help in romanian, please visit #debian-ro on irc.oftc.net.
12:34<abrotman>maybe ?
12:34<derzis>but my native language is romanian
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12:35<derzis>i have some problem with my network configuration
12:35<KaaK>can someone explain to be the meaning of the various debian version tags? e.g. <upstream_version>~dfsg-3+deb7u1
12:35<KaaK>or at least point me to a link?
12:35<abrotman>KaaK: which part of that do you want to know about ?
12:35<KaaK>how to 'read' them
12:36<abrotman>KaaK: IME, that'd be something wher epart of the upstream was removed to comply with DFSG, then binary version 3, then a security patch on top of that
12:36*abrotman looks for the URL
12:36<derzis>and i cant set my ppoe connection as default
12:37<abrotman>KaaK: make sense?
12:39<KaaK>abrotman: thanks -- some ive been able to get via osmosis (bpo, nmu, ect), but other still escape my abilities to match up to a reason
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12:39<abrotman>KaaK: I've found the URL before, but can't now ..
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12:42<KaaK>abrotman: just knowing it exists is good enough for me, i'll keep digging -- thanks
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12:46<SynrG>KaaK: none of those tags are enforced. it's all by convention
12:47<SynrG>KaaK: so you'll find a fair amount of variation in the ones individual developers use
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12:47<SynrG>there *should* be a "best practices" doc for this that covers all the commonly used ones, but i don't think there is
12:47<SynrG>the developers reference may have some suggestions, however.
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12:48<SynrG>in particular, the dfsg case
12:48<SynrG>(that's just by rough memory ...)
12:49<KaaK>probably my number one concern is how they affect apt and how it selects candidate versions.
12:50<SynrG>in general, it's not the tags that affect apt, but the numbers
12:50<SynrG>and if the tags do, then the developer has made a mistake in numbering
12:51<SynrG>KaaK: see the dpkg man page, description of --compare-versions
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12:52<SynrG>KaaK: for a given pair of version#s, you can test them that way and understand how they're seen by apt
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12:53<KaaK>SynrG: perfect, i think that will satisfy any edge-case questions i come across.
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12:55<SynrG>KaaK: the tilde portion comes earlier than any similar version#. this is helpful for adding parts to the version# that, if-and-when a 'full' release comes out, that version will be superceded by the full one
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12:56<SynrG>KaaK: useful in the dfsg case, for example, because if upstream ever solves the dfsg problem, you need the same #'d upstream release to supercede the dfsg-sanitized one
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13:11<NastyShade>salut
13:11<NastyShade>FR ?
13:11<NastyShade>FR ?
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13:14<abrotman>or not
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13:25<Blizzbob>hey, i added my skript using "update-rc.d skript defaults" but i get an error: something like "Max recursion depth 99 reached" and so on. My skript is a kind of infinity loop, so is this the problem ??
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13:26<abrotman>Blizzbob: some circular symlink I'd gues
13:26<rryoumaa>10:47 <SynrG> there *should* be a "best practices" doc for this that covers all the commonly used ones, but i don't think there isb
13:27<rryoumaa>mispost
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13:27<Blizzbob>abrotman: oh i got the mistake ...
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13:32<Blizzbob>abrotman: ... not yet. My init.d skript starts a skript with almost the same name. I thought that u mixed up the two but now i fixed it and i still have this problem ...
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13:34<blast007>Blizzbob: what does your script do?
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13:36<Blizzbob>it checks if my servers are running. (Yet) I can only stop it with ctrl-C
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13:39<Blizzbob>blast007: it checks if my servers are running. (Yet) I can only stop it with ctrl-C
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13:41<blast007>Blizzbob: well, in any case, we'd need a bit more information (such as the contents of the script) in order to recommend a solution
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13:44<Blizzbob>blast007: ok, i will sum up the important parts
13:44<jblaze>Is it possible to post a picture from the internet using the gnome file selector?
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13:47<SynrG>jblaze: there's "Send To". depends on what you mean by "post"
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13:47<Maicon>Hello World
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13:49<jblaze>SynrG: Basically I just want to be able to post an image on a forum. Till now I've been downloading an image from a site then uploading it so that others on the forum can see it
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13:51<jblaze>Seems like a bit of a pointless process if I could just link directly to the image
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13:55<Blizzbob>blast007: http://pastebin.com/DVqYASuu
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13:56<blast007>I was actually meaning the init.d script
13:57<Blizzbob>blast007: ok ... wait a second
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14:01<Blizzbob>blast007: http://pastebin.com/YBgsW9Gz
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14:07<blast007>Blizzbob: I think you need to background the python script somehow so that the init.d script can exit, but I'm not familiar with the proper way to do that - hang around and hopefully someone will be able to help you now
14:08<Blizzbob>blast007: thx
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14:09<Merce>Hola
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14:11<Merce>Holaaa
14:11<Merce>:)
14:11<Merce>aii alguiennn
14:11<Merce>oleeeeeee
14:12<Merce>paeccee ke nnoo jajja
14:12<Merce>:(
14:14<Merce>Adios
14:14<Merce>byee
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15:52<Guest1877>Hello.
15:53<Guest1877>I'm trying to set up xen and make it connect through NAT to the network. The current documentation of xen says that the xen tools will not handle automatic configuration of the network on dom0, but I can't find any working tutorial for setting up NAT networking on debian. Any tips?
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15:57<Guest1877>Also, part of the problem might be that I don't quite understand how a xen VM is supposed to connect to the internet through NAT. The examples I've found only talked about enabling IP forwarding and masquerading in iptables, but do I not have to also create a "virtual" network interface for the VMs to connect to? Or will they connect directly to the actual physical interface?
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15:59<sney>masquerading is a type of nat
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16:00<Guest1877>sney: but what interface will the VM actually see? I'm curios because I wouls like to set up static IPs for the VMs, and I'm not sure what settings to use (what address, gateway, etc)
16:01<sney>I haven't set up that part myself, though my experience with using a xen guest vps tells me that some kind of virtual eth0 is created
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16:03<Guest1877>I guess you mean the virtual eth0 inside of the VM, but what is that actually connected to? From what I've seen, the xen-tools scripts set up a virtual vifX.0 in dom0, to which the virtual eth0 inside of the VM will connect to. If I don't want to use these scripts, will I need to set up this vifX.0 myself?
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16:07<DeepBlue>i'm running Debian with Xfce and Mate installed.what is the potential default diplay manager?
16:08<towo`>DeepBlue, depends on, what you have installed
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16:08<towo`>and since i can't find mate in debian repos, it's propably not supported
16:09<sney>mate is indeed not in debian
16:09<DeepBlue>i got it from the developers repos
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16:10<sney>the display manager would be lightdm in a typical xfce installation, but who knows what mate would suggest, if anything
16:10<Guest1877>sney: I'm guessing it should look something like: http://xenbits.xen.org/docs/unstable-staging/figs/network-basic.png , shouldn't it? And since the xen-tools apparently do not automatically configure the networking anymore, will I need to set up vifA.B myself? Or?
16:10<unixabg>Greetings, I have a stock filesystem.squashfs and I would like to stack partial-1.squashfs and partial-2.squashfs on top
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16:11<sney>Guest1877, that looks plausible
16:11<unixabg>of the filesystem.squashfs. I am missing something simple but I can not seem to figure it out, probably something
16:11<unixabg>simple due to my lack of knowledge on squashfs things.
16:12<DeepBlue>so whaere is lightdm configuration file found?
16:12<Guest1877>sney: that's my problem then, because I can't actually find any clear examples on how to set that up... :-)
16:12<sney>/etc/lightdm, maybe?
16:12<unixabg>Is anyone around who could assist me in overlaying the filesystem.squashfs+partial-1.squashfs+partial-2.squashfs?
16:12<sney>Guest1877, well, I don't have any either. sorry
16:13<sney>unixabg, if nobody answered you, what do you think?
16:13<DeepBlue>sney, tight guess,thanx
16:13<DeepBlue>right*
16:13<Guest1877>sney: I still hope someone with more knowledge on the subject will show up.
16:16<unixabg>sney: :), I just like to make sure I asked for help and not just rambled.
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16:22<alfa>hello everybody, I'm having a problem with dmenu, probably after some upgrades
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16:23<alfa>I'm using a script called dmenu-bind.sh to launch applications, now it doesn't work correctly anymore because it doesn't find dmenu_path
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16:24<alfa>isn't it in suckless-tools package anymore, or can I substitute it with something else?
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16:42<alfa>nobody use dmenu or have problems with it?
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16:43<Guest1877>Is there a way to "simulate" the execution of the command "brctl addbr br" inside of the /etc/network/interfaces file? Or what would be the "preferred" way of adding a bridge at boot?
16:44<unixabg>Ahh I found the issue on the stacking and it was indeed something simple. :)
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16:49<paintinx>Silence in #debian... Times have changed.
16:49<sney>it comes and goes
16:50<paintinx>On freenode it used to be on for one and all night and day :)
16:50*paintinx is one of the old guys pre-fable
16:50<sney>the freenode one is still a little crazier than this one
16:50<paintinx>heh
16:51<sney>it's been pretty quiet the last week or so though, probably just because of the holidays. it'll pick back up
16:51<paintinx>yeah
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16:51<paintinx>I just dropped in from nostalgia - I learnt a lot in #debian circa 2003-4
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16:52<paintinx>sney: thanks for at least proving someone was alive ;-)
16:52<sney>np
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16:55<aMiner>Hi is there anybody that can help a total noob install atheros drivers on debian?
16:55<aMiner>I have been trying for the past 24 hours
16:56<ompaul>aMiner: you are using wheezy?
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16:56<aMiner>I think its debian 6
16:56<ompaul>too many failures - use wheezy debian 7
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16:56<aMiner>I cannot, its a custom made distro
16:56<ompaul>then it is not debian
16:57<paintinx>ompaul: Hey. what are you doing here? Good to see you!
16:57<ompaul>paintinx: been here since 09/10 ish
16:57<aMiner>when it loads up, it says debian 6.x.x.x
16:57<ompaul>!based on debian
16:57<dpkg>Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent.
16:57<paintinx>ompaul: I should not be surprised, of course :)
16:58<aMiner>wow.
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16:58<aMiner>lol
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16:58<ompaul>paintinx: well, I do stuff should we close the other?
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16:59<paintinx>aMiner: Have you googled "atheros drivers <your distro>"?
16:59<aMiner>my distro is very custom, its a "bitcoin" mining design
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17:00<aMiner>there was one thread on the ubuntu forums that was supposed to fix the issue, but i cant understand what they are saying
17:00<ompaul>aMiner: well that is not any of our business
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17:01<ompaul>aMiner: you do one of two things, you use your distro's channel or you use debian, your scant regard for the fact that we only support plain enough debian seems to be obvious.
17:01<aMiner>I just want to know how do you install a driver from a usb stick to the driver directory
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17:01<aMiner>Isnt it all the same for linux?
17:02<ompaul>aMiner: no, please install wheezy your version and ath9k are known to be problematic and I'm not going to waste my time on it or for that matter now that you have identified that you are not using debian but some based on debian anyone else's valuable time
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17:03<ompaul>yeah thought as much
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17:21<Guest1877>Shouldn't scripts in the /etc/network/if-up.d/ folder be executed automatically when any network comes up?
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17:22<Guest1877>I'm asking because I have created a script there, to add some iptables rules via /sbin/iptables-restore and if I execute it manually and then look at iptables -L, the rules are all there, but if I just reboot the machine and look at iptables -L, there are no rules there at all.
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17:23<Guest1877>Or is there any other ("preferred") way of automatially adding iptables rules at boot time?
17:23<dondelelcaro>Guest1877: I would suggest using ferm or similar
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17:25<Poenikatu>Hello. I am busily translating the messages of claws-mail into a new language, and I have found that the word 'Subject' has not been translated, even though I have translated all its occurrences. So, how do I find which library out of the 610 libraries installed on my system contains the word 'Subject'?
17:25<Guest1877>dondelelcaro: Will ferm automatically insert the stored rules at boot?
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17:25<dondelelcaro>Guest1877: no, but if you use it to write rules, it will.
17:26<Guest1877>dondelelcaro: Ok, I'll check it out. Thanks for the tip!
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17:27<jpickard>hi
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17:27<jpickard>who
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17:27<jpickard>hi
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17:48<ompaul>Poenikatu: I'd suggest you search the source code Subject is something that is most likely to be findable with the phrase "grep -i subject" in the code.
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18:08<sakax>does someone know how i can easily merge pdf documents? preferably a command line app?
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18:13<ompaul>Guest1888: pdftk is going to help a bit, sadly you lose some clarity so if you could go pdftotext -layout or something like that and then get the text right and create a pdf you might get better results
18:14<DeepBlue>whar's the output of '/bin/sh —version'?
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18:15<Guest1888>ompaul, what do you mean with the clarity? is the quality of the pdf document decreasing? i am just looking in an easy tool with merges 2 or more pdf documents without any conversion taking place
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18:15<ompaul>some quality will take place it is like merging two jpgs
18:16<ompaul>some loss of quality will take place it is like merging two jpgs
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18:17<Guest1888>hmm
18:17<ompaul>get the sources and merge them
18:18<ompaul>convert to plain text do ocr work on it tesseract and get on with making a good doc your call how you deal with it
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18:18<Guest1888>i just tried it, exactly what i needed :) do not notice any quality loss on first sight. thanks
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18:21<ompaul>Guest1888: a note, given what I've said, be aware some days you might want to do what I said, you should play with that I was pointing at, at least have the exposure for the day you are under pressure.
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18:21<ompaul>Guest1888: not nice learning the other stuff on the fly :)
18:21<Guest1888>yes sure :)
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18:22<Guest1888>right now i just need to easily merge my bank statements into 1 pdf document for the full year :)
18:23<ompaul>get the text out and stuff it into a spreadsheet :)
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18:25<TTT>hi, hmm, I'm running sid on asus laptop with AMD a6-3400 APU with a discrete radeon 6550 GPU. I am trying to get PRIME to work. DRI_PRIME=1 glxgears works fine, extreme tux racer works fine, openarena crashes
18:25<ShadoWolf>hey guys, question if you have a few...Anyone got the deb adress for wheezy so I can add the security updates?
18:25<TTT>not crashes, hangs
18:25<TTT>does anyone have openarena working with PRIME on radeon r600?
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18:25<ompaul>!tell TTT about sources.list
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18:26<ShadoWolf>welcome back hazard2
18:27<TTT>ompaul, ? What does that have to do with anything? I'm on sid, stock sid kernel 3.6.12, stock sid openarena and other software mentioned
18:28<TTT>!tell ShadoWolf about sources.list
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18:28<MrFrood>TTT: then you should be in #debian-next
18:28<TTT>right
18:28<MrFrood>:P
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18:28<ompaul>TTT: there are no security updates to did
18:28<ompaul>sid
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18:28<ompaul>ahh I see what I did there :)
18:29<TTT>ompaul, dude, you are confusing me with ShadoWolf, I don't need security updates, I have PRIME and openarena hanging
18:29<ompaul>TTT: yeah as I said I see what ... etc
18:29<ShadoWolf>I'm the one looking for the sec updates on wheezy bub
18:29<ompaul>ShadoWolf: read the message from the bot
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18:31<ShadoWolf>ok think I got it nailed now via sudo apt-add-repository -y deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free
18:31<Guest1888>ompaul, i like the layout with the bank logo in case i need to provide someone with a proof of payment :)
18:32<ompaul>Guest1888: for analysis
18:32<Guest1888>true
18:33<Guest1888>identifying double payments, hehe :)
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18:33<TTT>ogh, in my previous life I have built a stock trading system which used an Oracle DB and a materialized view of all transactions
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18:34<TTT>oracle had a bug where it would randomly duplicate rows in the materialized view...
18:34<TTT>that was fun
18:36<ompaul>so if you took that view and then inserted it you'd have some duped rows
18:36*ompaul gulps
18:36<TTT>no, you would modify the original table of which this materialized view was a view
18:36<TTT>and the original table was OK
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18:37<TTT>but the materialized view would have random duplicates from time to time
18:37<TTT>we ended up sticking DISTINCT statements everywhere
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18:37<TTT>that was a case of bad architecture + some bad decisions from the bank I was doing that system for
18:38<TTT>with lots of caching I did manage to get acceptable performance though
18:38<ompaul>I have been known to do "make this view" and shove that somewhere in a temp table for some later work
18:38<NickUK>Hi, having issues with one of my Debian servers getting stuck on 0% on apt-get issue - 0% [Connecting to ftp.fr.debian.org] [Connecting to ftp.debian.org] [Connecting to security.debian.org]0
18:38<TTT>and that system is still in use :)
18:38<NickUK>it cannot resolve any sources.list but can ping it perfectly fine
18:39<sney>NickUK, connection timeouts, maybe run namebench and switch to some faster nameservers
18:39<ompaul>NickUK: some kind of proxy in there?
18:39<NickUK>No proxy
18:40<ompaul>well the ftp server is up
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18:53<bimb0t>hallo, i just wanted to know if its possible to use the xorg-video-intel drivers from jessie under wheezy stable, they are dependet on xorg-server so i have to replace/upgrade it to, it is possible to make it easy like kernel upgrade? i was searching @forums but dont found any info ;/
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18:58<TTT>to be able to use new xorg-video-driver, you'll probably need new xorg-server and a new kernel
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19:00<TTT>right, I managed to get openarena to work with radeon PRIME!. Apparently sid stock openarena is borked, I downloaded openarena binaries from sourceforge, and it works!
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19:01<N580-Noob>i have a usb flashdrive that is so corrupted, nothing will use it. the obvios solution is to repartition/format the drive. although the drive has no hardware switches or means of becoming read-only, it acts like it is.
19:01<N580-Noob>i issued this command --> # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/rsdc bs=512 count=32G
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19:02<N580-Noob>and it failed with this error:
19:02<N580-Noob>dd: writing `/dev/rsdc': No space left on device
19:02<N580-Noob>even fdisk wont work:
19:03<N580-Noob>fdisk: unable to write /dev/sdc: Bad file descriptor
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19:03<N580-Noob>is there anything i can do?
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19:03<TTT>N580-Noob, that dd command, I think you overdid it
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19:04<N580-Noob>oops, sorry
19:04<TTT>N580-Noob, count is count in BLOCKS so you wrote 32g x 512 bytes
19:04<N580-Noob>what do i need to do
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19:04<TTT>try dd if=/dev/zero of=/whatever/device bs=1024k count=32768
19:04<N580-Noob>oh,well it failed immediately, the drive doesn't write 32G in a nanosecond
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19:05<TTT>if there are problems with partition table and whatnot, overwriting 1st megabyte should fix it
19:05<TTT>you are sure it's recognized correctly, as /dev/sdc?
19:06<N580-Noob>dd: writing `/dev/rsdc': No space left on device
19:06<N580-Noob>11+0 records in
19:06<N580-Noob>10+0 records out
19:06<N580-Noob>10485760 bytes (10 MB) copied, 0.013361 s, 785 MB/s
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19:06<N580-Noob>sorry
19:06<TTT>don't paste more than 3 lines here please
19:06<TTT>the bots are quite angry :)
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19:07<TTT>anyway, fdisk /dev/sdc ?
19:07<N580-Noob>tried that
19:07<TTT>or try remove install and try again
19:07<TTT>I plug out/plug in
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19:07<N580-Noob>tried that
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19:08<N580-Noob>Command (m for help): w
19:08<N580-Noob>fdisk: unable to write /dev/sdc: Bad file descriptor
19:08<TTT>weird
19:08<N580-Noob>yeah, what i said
19:09<N580-Noob>brand new drive too
19:09<N580-Noob>like a month old
19:09<rryoumaa>N580-Noob: partition it
19:09<N580-Noob>i want to but how?
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19:09<TTT>when you plug it in, are you 100% positive it is recognized as /dev/sdc?
19:09<TTT>check /var/log/messages or something
19:09<N580-Noob>yes from output of fdisk -l
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19:10<N580-Noob>there's only 2 drives here, the 500GB is the internal debian is installed on, sdc is the 32GB flashdrive
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19:12<TTT>is there a switch on the drive that makes it read-only?
19:12<TTT>physical switch?
19:12<TTT>what kind of USB drive is it?
19:12<TTT>brand/model?
19:12<N580-Noob>rryoumaa, how would you partition it when fdisk refuses to?
19:13<rryoumaa>try every program you can think of
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19:13<N580-Noob>it's a kingston data traveler like the one in the movie. it has no hardware switches (i know the switches cuz i like drives that have them, like the kanguru ss3)
19:14<N580-Noob>it's a DTSE9
19:14<N580-Noob>32GB
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19:17<bimb0t>TTT i already upgraded kernel from 3.2 to 3.11, its a easy step, but how i can upgrade full xorg-server, they arent any backports packages, do i need to self build a package?
19:18<TTT>N580-Noob, not sure. Try googling for "fdisk Bad file descriptor USB", there seem to be other people that have encountered this
19:18<TTT>bimb0t, not sure, there are ways to have a hybrid installation from two debian releases with version pining, but I don't know how to do it
19:18<TTT>when I did upgrades, i did full upgrades
19:19<TTT>if there are no backports, you might try building from source
19:19<TTT>gotta go sleep, work tomorrow
19:19<TTT>cya
19:19<bimb0t>i understand, hmm maybe just going with full testing/jessie is the best way
19:19<bimb0t>bb
19:19<bimb0t>thx
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19:37<N580-Noob>yeah, they r going thru it too but no solutions. :/
19:38<cronic>hey, ist there someone who can tell me how to install the arm-elf-toolchain in wheezy? :x
19:38<N580-Noob>parted made some progress but when i try to delete a partition on that drive ... :
19:38<N580-Noob>(parted) rm 3
19:38<N580-Noob>Error: Can't write to /dev/sdc, because it is opened read-only.
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19:39<N580-Noob>when i first told parted to run on /dev/sdc:
19:39<N580-Noob>Warning: Unable to open /dev/sdc read-write (Read-only file system). /dev/sdc has been opened read-only.
19:39<N580-Noob>GNU Parted 2.3
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19:40<N580-Noob>if no ideas, then i gtg
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19:51<N580-Noob>is there no way possible to just tell dd or parted or whatever to not mount it rw or ro or mount it at all and just rawwrite zeros to it util there are no partitions or filesystems. then just add a new partition and format it?
19:52<dondelelcaro>N580-Noob: if the disk is RO, that usually means that the physical disk has been made to be read-only
19:52<dondelelcaro>N580-Noob: or you're not root
19:53<N580-Noob>i am root and the disk has no way possible of forcing it to be read only via any means, hardware switch, bits written to firmware or otherwise
19:53<sney>errors=remount-ro
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19:53<N580-Noob>it's a kingston data traveler DTSE9 flashdrive
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19:54<N580-Noob>sney, in parted? (original issue is that it's so corrupted, it never mounts at all)
19:55<N580-Noob>the processes like fdisk, parted, dd etc all treated it like it's hardware read only
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19:55<sney>it's a standard fstab option. where if errors stop the volume from mounting read-write, it mounts read-only
19:55<N580-Noob>they wont open the device for writing so i can fix it
19:55<sney>usually used for the root drive
19:55<dondelelcaro>sney: that has nothing to do with the device being read-only
19:56<N580-Noob>this is for a usb drive but i'll check the /etc/fstab file ..
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19:57<dondelelcaro>N580-Noob: what does dmesg say when you insert the device?
19:57<N580-Noob>there are no entries for usb drives in etc fstab
19:57<N580-Noob>using hal and pmount (?)
19:57<dondelelcaro>N580-Noob: and while I'm not certain about that particular device, it's totally possible to make drives read only in their firmware.
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20:00<N580-Noob>ok that seems to be the problem. folowing was found in dmesg regarding this drive:
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20:00<N580-Noob>[847891.124145] sd 10:0:0:0: [sdc] Write Protect is on
20:00<N580-Noob>there's no switch, any way to fix this?
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20:00<dondelelcaro>N580-Noob: there may be drive-specific software you can use to futz with it
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20:01<N580-Noob>for debian?
20:01<dondelelcaro>N580-Noob: probably not
20:01<dondelelcaro>there's this urDrive thing which might do it
20:01<N580-Noob>there's no windows here. got mac os x ...
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20:03<N580-Noob>there's a urDrive for this drive, it's the correct one. but it's winblows :'{
20:03<dondelelcaro>yeah
20:04<N580-Noob>oh this software is not for fixing the drive
20:05<N580-Noob>it's for putting on and then running from the drive
20:05<N580-Noob>if i could do that i would not need it
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20:06<dondelelcaro>it probably has utilties to do both
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20:13<dondelelcaro>but if not, you'll probably have to find something to muck with the firwmare on the device
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20:14<N580-Noob>looking into that now
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20:17<dondelelcaro>N580-Noob: you might also be able to do something like hdparm -r0 /dev/sdc;
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20:20<omixam>Hello I'm using Debian 7 but I can't connect MTP devices...
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20:32<N580-Noob>thanks for the help. bbl
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22:13<omixam>I need install MTP support in debian 7
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22:25<omixam>I want to install MTP in debian 7.3
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22:28<buff>omixam, so do it
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22:37<omixam>I install mtp-tools and mtpfs... but not function...
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