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01:02<Kasayarou>Is there any way to force a reinstall of a particular file? (I did something stupid with a file in /usr/share; it's harmless, but I'd like to make sure it's completely reset.)
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01:03<candings>sudo aptitude reinstall package-name
01:03<candings>Kasayarou: ^
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01:04<frdel>Kasayarou: and if you install apt-file, you can use it to find a package by a file it contains
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01:05<candings>frdel: apt-file is not needed it package is installed. just perform "dpkg -S /path/to/file"
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01:08<frdel>candings: yes, thats smarter:)
01:09<Kasayarou>I did dpkg -S, yes. (That presumably reinstalled the entire package, rather than just the one file, but no harm done in this case.) Is 'reinstalling a single file' even a meaningful concept? I vaguely recall some packages having run a configure script at install time, so I suppose in general it can't be, but...
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01:11<jm_>you can install a single file manually only (man dpkg-deb); and dpkg -S does not reinstall anything, it merely shows which package a file is in
01:12<Kasayarou>By "that" I meant "aptitude reinstall". Sorry for the inclarity!
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01:36<saurabh>m new to this channel
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01:36<candings>hi saurabh
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01:38<saurabh>hi candings
01:38<saurabh>i need some help atually
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01:38<candings>saurabh: you are welcome
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01:39<pdxgnat>join freenode/#debian
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01:42<saurabh>candings : Actually i have to find-out a channel where i can ask Linux kernel related question , I found a channel Linux-kernel but it seems that no one is there. Can you tell me any channel related to linux kernel.My problem is that i am building a Linux kernel from its source code and when i boot through this kernel it is stooping at <initramfs> prompt. I will be thankful to you.
01:42<candings>dpkg: oftc's #debian channel is official, freenode's one is unofficial, deprecated
01:42<dpkg>candings: okay
01:42<candings>pdxgnat: ^
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01:42<candings>saurabh: maybe, freenode/#linux ?
01:43<jm_>why are you even using initramfs with a custom kernel?
01:43<saurabh>candings : Thank you!
01:44<saurabh>jm_ : I am sorry jm_ , i did not get you , can you explain what you want to say?
01:44<pdxgnat>was more trying to figure out
01:45<pdxgnat>how to specify which server to join on
01:45<pdxgnat>not so much concerned with what's on the channel
01:45<candings>pdxgnat: which client?
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01:46<candings> /join #chan-name -network network-name
01:46<candings>name of freenode is probably freenode :)
01:46<jm_>saurabh: i am just telling you that you might not even need to use initrd image with a custom kernel (some setups obviously require it)
01:48<SamB>!oftc's #debian channel
01:48<dpkg>methinks oftc's #debian channel is official, freenode's one is unofficial, deprecated
01:48<SamB>how useful
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01:50<saurabh>jm_ : I think its a process , first you have to configure the source code then make it after make modules and install them and after it you have to put , initrd.img,and vmlinuz file to /boot/folder
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01:53<themill>candings: that's not really true either
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01:56<pdxgnat>hasn't worked yet
01:56<pdxgnat>but i'm sure it's my fault somehow
01:56<pdxgnat>irc clients are like little puzzles
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01:58<jm_>or perhaps you just need to read some documentation first
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02:56<CRPL>Hello guys. What can I install on my system (except apache and php) to create a localhost webpage to interact with my system as terminal ? Kind of a web-based terminal
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02:57<jm_>are you sure you want that? it's a security risk
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02:57<CRPL>Is my raspberry pi we setup few days ago, witch is not connected to the internet
02:57<candings>CRPL: ajaxterm
02:58<candings>it has built-in http-server
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02:59<CRPL>thank you very much. I'll try it now
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03:30<ivanov>bonjour :)
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04:23<voltagex>hi, is it possible to install samba4 as a simple file server? the installation script in the .deb (at least in wheezy) seems to want to set up DNS and a domain controller.
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04:40<voltagex>why *does* the postinst script for samba4 run a full AD DC install - wouldn't it make sense to let the user decide?
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05:29<Guest3650>how change layout to mac on debian ppc please ?
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05:30<Guest3650>i'm on lxde desktop
05:30<Guest3650>anybody ?
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05:32<Guest3650>need help please
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05:38<thedead>hi, I'm trying to force a user to only bind to a port when using an ssh tunnel. Google told me this is possibile using SELinux, but I can't find how to label the port to allow user & ssh to bind (i can only allow one or the other). Any suggestion?
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05:46<netkinger>hi all
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05:47<netkinger>i have a question !
05:47<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on See <smart questions><errors>.
05:47<netkinger>who know how to disable keyring on linux?
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05:53<chrishell>Im not using gnome but maybe "killall gnome-keyring-manager"
05:53<chrishell>|| gnome-keyring-daemon
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06:19<thedead>hi, I'm trying to force a user to only bind to a port when using an ssh tunnel. Google told me this is possibile using SELinux, but I can't find how to label the port to allow user & ssh to bind (i can only allow one or the other). Any suggestion
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06:20<bhuddah>thedead: what do you mean by force to bind to a port?
06:21<thedead>bhuddah: simple example, userA can only bind port 9001, userB only 9002, etc...
06:21<bhuddah>thedead: what is the goal behind that?
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06:25<thedead>bhuddah: in fact, this wasn't a my idea, but sometimes you need to make things go without asking yourself too much questions :) Anyway, the clients need to expose two port that will be "interfaced" to a private cloud. As clients are in unknown networks the should live without any care about simple NAT & FWs, an dynamc IP, so they sets up a reverse ssh tunnel to another machine, that will expose us the needed ports
06:25<Slydder>hey all. does anyone have a good guide on migrating from sysvinit to systemd? I mean the replacing of the old sysv init scripts to systemd units.
06:26<bhuddah>thedead: what you call the client becomes the server in that case.
06:27<jm_>Slydder: first hit on search engine
06:27<Slydder>yeah. saw that one earlier.
06:28<thedead>bhudda: yep, I know, in fact it is a server... Anyway,what about the sad thing I need to do? :)
06:29<bhuddah>thedead: i think it would work with the usual ssh commands... i think -R in that case.
06:30<thedead>bhuddah, yes, this works perfectly (as tunnels do), but my problem is when I try to allow only userA to bind to portA (so userB cannot bind portA).
06:31<bhuddah>there's always some limits.
06:32<thedead>bhuddah: what are you trying to say?
06:33<bhuddah>i do think ssh does not have those features in its feature set, thedead
06:34<jm_>are you even reading what thedead is saying? that's why he's asking for other solutions
06:36<bhuddah>hey, i just wanted to find out what it was all about. but yes. it seems that trying selinx might be the best choice sadly.
06:36<thedead>bhuddah: yep, ssh does not have them by default, and this is why I started to use SELinux ( ). But I can't find how to label a port that permits the user using ssh to bind it (I can only allow one at once).
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06:44<bhuddah>thedead: good luck with that one. look here: afaik there's the labeling described.
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06:47<bhuddah>thedead: ah, now i get that. you can either allow ssh OR the user context, right?
06:47<thedead>yep, not both
06:48<bhuddah>well. yes. i ran into something like that once too. sadly i only remember that we abandonned this particular problem later on.
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06:49<thedead>bhuddah: i think there should be a way of creating a type that enclose them (something like type A made up of userA + sshd)... But I don't know if I'm looking in the right way
06:51<bhuddah>thedead: i think the solution is to combine the right user and application context. but selinux seems to be very limited for that use cases.
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06:52<thedead>yep, but, AFIK others (Tomoyo, GRSecurity, etc...) are more "app centric", so they know almost nothing about user...
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06:58<moncky_>I've just noticed some strange things with the contents of the repos
06:58<bhuddah>thedead: have you tried running ssh unconfined and relying only on the user policy and assign the ports that way?
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06:59<thedead>bhuddah: in fact no, i try
06:59<moncky_>It looks like and are inconsistent and that is different yet again
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07:00<themill>moncky_: in what way?
07:01<moncky_>I can't see vim-nox, freetds-common in the wheezy repo on the primary repos but I can see it in the bytemark repo
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07:01<moncky_> suggests that those packages should be available
07:02<moncky_>So now I'm thinking that the primary repos are out of sync in some way, but that seems a little far fetched to me
07:02<themill>what do you mean by "can't see"
07:03<moncky_>apt-get install or apt-cache search on for freetds-common for example whilst using returns no installation candidate, the same on the bytemark repo returns a result/installs the package
07:03<moncky_>its like that package isn't in the repo
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07:04<themill>can you pastebin the full output please? along with "apt-cache policy; apt-cache policy $package" and apt-get update
07:04<moncky_>sure give me a second, I'll have to change my sources
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07:14<moncky_>themill: heh so now I can
07:15<moncky_>themill: heh so now I can't recreate it, so I must assume that I was doing something strange or blame it on puppet
07:15<themill>apt-get update not completing properly for some reason might do that
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07:16<moncky_>themill: ahh that would make sense as the puppet run got confused after I had updated the repos in the manifest
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07:24<user8715>Hello all. I have a wheezy system running another wheezy with Samba in a chrooted environment. In this machine, I have others chrooted systems with Lenny and Squeeze. But just the chrooted wheezy is really slow: If I run an "aptitude update" I need to wait hours for simple upgrades, and recently my samba is really slow and using too much proccessing. I have no idea about what is happening....
07:24<user8715>...Why only this chroot is slow?
07:24<user8715>*aptutude dist-upgrade
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07:26<mythos>user8715, are you sure, the update process isn't slow because of the usage of pdiffs?
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07:27<mythos>try apt-get update -o Acquire::Pdiffs=false
07:28<user8715>mythos: can I try this at dist-upgrade?
07:29<user8715>mythos: the problem, in fact, is while installing some file (at unpacking stage).
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07:29<user8715>mythos: I made a mistake in my previous description
07:29<mythos>user8715, ok. my bad
07:30<user8715>mythos: What are the pdiffs?
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07:31<user8715>mythos: Are they the diff files?
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07:32<mythos>user8715, pdiffs are for an incremental update process. and they are sooo slow
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07:32<jm_>that indicates your I/O is slow, you could test with eatmydata, but make sure you understand the implications
07:33<user8715>mythos: thank you :)
07:33<user8715>jm_: sounds like a progress here... what are the implications? :P
07:34<user8715>jm_: eatmydata installed
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07:38<user8715>jm_: I'll test it for some time!
07:38<user8715>mythos, jm_, thank you for your assistance!
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07:39<jm_>no worries
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10:08<wall0>Greetings. How can I bridge my wireless network to a virtual machine using network manager and openvswitch?
10:09<wall0>Network manager does not seem to implement a bridge over eth0 or wlan0, and when eth0 or wlan0 are added to a bridge using openvswitch, that device goes down.
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10:16<DavidBrooke>I need some help concerning the standard text console option installation. I see how to select the other 5 options, gnome, kde, etc... but I don't see the standard text console.
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10:18<mtn>DavidBrooke: do a standard install, but remove the desktop choice when you get to that menu
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10:18<rektide>is there a directory where desktop backgrounds get installed? is there a common package of artwork? or is it WM by WM, DE by DE?
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10:19<mtn>rektide: I think it is by de or wm
10:20<DavidBrooke>mtn: k...I haven't done the standard install...only the expert install....when does the desktop selection happen? after drive partition/formating?
10:20<mtn>DavidBrooke: yes, after the basic install, before the big download part
10:20<DavidBrooke>mtn ty
10:20<mtn>DavidBrooke: expert will work too, just remove the desktop option
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10:24<DavidBrooke>mtn: I haven't seen that option using expert experience is selecting expert install and it will install gnome without asking or just after selecting expert install I can select the other options KDE, LXDE, etc...but no text console
10:25<mtn>DavidBrooke: well, I believe the task selection window always comes up. has choices for printer server, laptop, desktop, etc.
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10:26<DavidBrooke>mtn: so the window for selecting software install options.... printer server, laptop, desktop, etc...this is where I should de-select desktop?
10:27<mtn>DavidBrooke: yes indeed
10:27<rektide>rektide: mtn: there is a /usr/share/wallpapers, used by propoganda-debian and desktop-base
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10:27<DavidBrooke>mtn: so by de-selecting desktop, only the text console will be installed
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10:28<mtn>DavidBrooke: yes, that is true
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10:38<sin>pojalusta pockajite kak automatiheski primontirovat" usb u meny debian 7.3
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10:39<sin> pojalusta pockajite kak automatiheski primontirovat" usb u meny debian 7.3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
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10:42<dpkg>Это английскоговорящий канал, пожалуйста, говорите по-английски или посетите #debian-russian ( (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian)
10:42<sin>spasibo dpkg
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10:51<planetmaker>sin, this channel can only help you in English. Not sure whether there's a Bosnian channel (or whatever language you wrote)
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10:53<Maulkin>planetmaker: dpkg pointed them to the correct place :)
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10:53<planetmaker>kk :)
10:53<planetmaker>but !ru surely wasn't right?
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10:55<sin>подскажите пожалуйсто еще русские чаты.
10:58<Maulkin>planetmaker: According to whois, it is.
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11:03<mkad>Hi, whenever I try to start shell text editor it defaults to some nasty 1234 number, how to get rid of that ?
11:03<mkad>I want my old default vim editor back
11:03<Stummi>"shell text editor"?
11:03<mkad>yeah.. I see somekind of numbers to choose from
11:03<mkad>and then it starts less no matter what
11:03<Stummi>mkad, update-alternatives --config editor
11:04<mkad>Stummi, its set to vim
11:04<mkad>Stummi, * 5 /usr/bin/vim.basic 30
11:04<Stummi>mkad, what starts your editor?
11:04<Stummi>or how do you try to start it
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11:05<mkad>F4 in mc
11:05<mkad>oh on root it works ok
11:05<MrFrood>mkad: do you have EDITOR or VISUAL set in your shells rc file or profile (this would override update alternatives)?
11:05<Stummi>I don't use MC, but I think there is an option to set your editor anywhere
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11:06<mkad>Oh it starts ed
11:06<mkad>no matter that alternatives are set to vi
11:06<mkad>MrFrood, I will check
11:06<Stummi>mkad: you can just type echo $EDITOR or echo $VISUAL to check
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11:07<mkad>Stummi, nope, not set
11:07<mkad>I dont have these variables
11:07<MrFrood>mkad: enter "export EDITOR=/usr/bin/vim.basic" and then try
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11:08<mkad>now it works
11:08<Stummi>however you should check why your mc falls back to ed
11:08<mkad>not only mc
11:08<mkad>also reportbug
11:09<mkad>I never set anything to ed
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11:09<Stummi>mkad, whats about "crontab -e"?
11:09<MrFrood>mkad: add the line to your shells rc file & hopfully thing will be sorted (you may also want to add a similar line for VISUAL
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11:10<mkad>Stummi, also starts ed ;/
11:10<mkad>its kind of distrubing since nothing is in .bashrc, and it seems user specific..
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11:10<mkad>nothing that could set ed as default I mean
11:10<Stummi>so, either your alternative is wrong or ed is set in your environment
11:11<mkad>on root it works ok
11:11<mkad>and alternatives are fine
11:11<absf234>Hi, I have a daemon that I manually start like this: service telldusd start . I would like it to start automatically on each boot - how do I achieve this? Thank you.
11:11<MrFrood>Stummi: as well as checking your bashrc check the .profile file to see if ed is set there
11:11<mkad>MrFrood, I have a clue
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11:12<mkad>MrFrood, not sure why, but crontab -e started /usr/bin/sensible-editor
11:12<mkad>MrFrood, which looks like ed
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11:12<MrFrood>you can set that using alternatives
11:12*MrFrood quite likes ed
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11:13<sin>please help with automount usb
11:14<MrFrood>sin: you need to give more detail of your problem
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11:14<mkad>MrFrood, its set correctly in alternatives :)
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11:16<sin>debian 7.3 not mmount usb auto can't see the files
11:16<MrFrood>sin: which DE if any
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11:18<MrFrood>!tell sin about automount
11:18<Maulkin>sin: you need to use #debian-russian on
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11:20<absf234>Does anybody knows the answer to my questions with starting a service on boot?
11:22<cinch>put "service telldusd start" inside /etc/rc.local
11:22<cinch>or no wait even better
11:22<Maulkin>absf234: What version of debian are you running?
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11:22<Maulkin>Cause that doens't look like a standard Debian system
11:23<cinch>absf234, i use a program called sysv-rc-conf to edit what services get startet on boot
11:23<cinch>apt-get install sysv-rc-conf
11:24<absf234>Maulkin: wheezy
11:25<absf234>cinch: sysv-rc-conf is the proper way to do it on wheezy?
11:26<cinch>absf234, yes amoung other ways to do it
11:26<mkad>MrFrood, /usr/bin/sensible-* are binaries from package sensible-utils
11:26<mkad>MrFrood, how can they be set by alternatives?
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11:27<cinch>absf234, or there's the program called update-rc.d
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11:28<apachepost>anybody know if plymouth [boot splash package] will work with yaboot
11:28<absf234>cinch: there is a need for a special program to accomplish this? why not just write it in some file (/etc/rc.local as you wrote)?
11:28<apachepost>specifically with nouveaux ;)
11:28<cinch>absf234, whatever works for you :>
11:29<absf234>cinch: is it "cleaner" to use a program?
11:29<cinch>absf234, /etc/rc.local is not so good
11:29<cinch>absf234, yea
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11:30<cinch>sysv init is all the filesystem with symbolic links saying what gets started
11:30<cinch>instead of managing the links yourself, you can use update-rc.d or similar, its just easier
11:30<absf234>cinch: thanks... could you tell how to do it with sysv-rc-conf or whatever ?
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11:32<cinch>run sysv-rc-conf as root in a terminal
11:32<cinch>find the line of the service (up down keys)
11:32<cinch>press space to put a X
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11:32<cinch>put a space on 2, 3, 4 and 5
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11:34<MrFrood>mkad: My mistake, it seems that sensible-utils uses environmental vars (see man environ) so to change you need to set EDITOR & VISUAL in your shells rc file
11:34<MrFrood>mkad: you may also want to set PAGER
11:35<absf234>cinch: thank you! you think its better than update-rc.d?
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11:35<cinch>absf234, both are good, i find sysv-rc-conf quicker to use
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11:51<absf234>cinch: I also want to start "remind" on boot... manually I do it like this: remind -z60 myReminders.rem & How should I do it? also with sysv-rc?
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11:53<san>Hi there, I got a problem with sftp, asymmetric keys
11:53<cinch>absf234, simple way is to add it to rc.local
11:53<san>im looking for some quick help
11:53<cinch>absf234, or create a "init" script, but thats more complicated
11:54<cinch>absf234, with init you can do things like "service myservice restart" to restart it
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11:54<san>i have it configured and its working perfectly but its asking for a password, the first time i try to connect
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11:55<san>is it required to give a password for my sftp user?
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11:55<absf234>cinch: so I just put the line "remind -z60 myReminders.rem" somewhere in rc.local? (if I'm lazy)
11:55<san>i need quick help
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11:56<cinch>san, maybe you want to create a keypair without a password? just a guess
11:56<san>i have created a key pair
11:56<cinch>absf234, yea, oh and i forgot: it will run as root by default, do you want that?
11:56<san>i have pushed te public key to my fileserver, cinch
11:57<cinch>san, does the key have a password?
11:57<san>no passphrase
11:57<san>i gave nothing
11:57<cinch>no idea, havent used sftp
11:58<san>thnk you cinch
11:58<san>any body please
11:58<cinch>absf234, also add a & character on the end of the command to fork it in the background
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11:58<cinch>absf234, remind -z60 myReminders.rem &
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11:59<san>debhelper, is there an admin channel where i can get some help
11:59<absf234>cinch: thank you. better probably not to run it as root - there is no need
12:00<roughnecks>to run a command from /etc/rc.local as user pippo just run it like -> su pippo -c "your_command"
12:00<absf234>thank you
12:00<roughnecks>san: did you try hitting "enter"?
12:00<san>enter where?
12:00<roughnecks>instead of writing your passphrase, which you don't have
12:00<cinch>san, usually i think it would ask for a password on that user account
12:01<san>yes its asking for a pass
12:01<roughnecks>i don't know about sftp anyway
12:01<san>i followed
12:01<san>its working with password
12:02<san>but i want to use passwrd less
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12:07<absf234>cinch, roughnecks: I have to write: su myUser -c "remind -z60 reminders.rem &" before exit 0 of the rc.local?
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12:08<san>cinch, yes it did ask for a pass
12:08<san>so my question is can i access the file sftp server using bin/false and nopasswd?
12:09<cinch>absf234, su myUser -c "remind -z60 reminders.rem" &
12:09<roughnecks>the first with full path to remind would do
12:09<absf234>cinch: thanks... and all this has to be before exit 0, right?
12:10<cinch>absf234, ya or it will just exit ;)
12:10<roughnecks>yep. (i'm not cinch also)
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12:12<cinch>absf234, /etc/rc.local just runs normal commands, one after another, as root, after booting
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12:12<absf234>cinch, roughnecks: no need to take care of symbolic links or something?
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12:12<cinch>got to go
12:13<absf234>cinch, roughnecks: thank you... I'm checking... (will reboot)
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12:23<mohamed>can someone help me with simple bash script
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12:23<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on See <smart questions><errors>.
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12:24<hseg>Hi. Tomcat isn't allowing me to authenticate. What is the minimal configuration I need to be able to authenticate there?
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12:25<mohamed>ok, I want to apply ''file '' command on all files in a directory . which means I want to apply
12:25<mohamed>"file" on "ls -R"
12:25<arachnidsGrip>mohamed: try find -type f -exec file {} \;
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12:28<mohamed>thanks @arachnidsGrip . just what i needed
12:28<arachnidsGrip>mohamed: you're welcome
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12:56<hseg>How can I get a file as it was shipped by the package? That is, how do I revert a configuration file to how it was when it was installed?
12:58<sney>you could download the package and extract the config file
12:58<dpkg>You have to especially tell the packaging system to reinstall config files because when they are gone, it is assumed that you want them to stay deleted. "aptitude -o DPkg::Options::='--force-confmiss' reinstall $packagename" will restore them (man dpkg for details). If the package uses <ucf> for config file management, ask me about <ucf confmiss>.
12:59<hseg>OK. I'll try to get it to work without restoring to defaults, but I'll keep that in mind in case stuff goes bad.
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13:34<adb>hi, my searching config off aisleriot aka solitaire, bcs from some time he is opening only in full screen ...
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13:42<Mongo44>My Debian VM does not have a web browser. How do I add one?
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13:43<dualbus>Mongo44: sudo apt-get install iceweasel|chromium|...
13:43<Mongo44>I don't use google products.
13:45<sney>good thing iceweasel isn't a google product, I guess
13:45<sney>!why iceweasel
13:45<dpkg>Due to Mozilla logos licensing, Mozilla software isn't DFSG-free, so Debian distributes Mozilla software with different logos. Mozilla Corp revoked the agreement to let Debian use Mozilla trademarks, so Debian changed to non-trademarked product names. See for more information. Ask me about <dfsg> <iceweasel vs firefox>.
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13:45<sney>in case you didn't know it's just firefox
13:46<Mongo44>Also it says that Gnome 3 isn't loading properly.
13:46<Mongo44>I thought chromium was Google chrome for Linux.
13:46<sney>gnome3 relies on compositing, so if your vm doesn't have pci passthrough or whatever is required, it won't work properly
13:47<Mongo44>How do I fix that?
13:47<sney>well, chromium is the open source project upon which chrome is built. chrome itself is also available, but I guess that doesn't matter to you.. when dualbus suggested iceweasel|chromium|... the | can be interpreted as "or"
13:47<dualbus>By changing the settings of your virtualization platform (QEMU, Virtualbox, VMware, ...)
13:48<Mongo44>Oh and I don't know how to open the terminal in Debian.
13:48<dualbus>Mongo44: by first fixing GNOME
13:48<sney>it looks like a little terminal icon usually under accessories or system utilities depending on your menu. or alt-f2,x-terminal-emulator
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13:53<Mongo44>dualbus: Do I use the | in the command to get the browser?
13:54<sney>pick one and install that
13:54<dualbus>Mongo44: no, as sney explained, it was meant to be interpreted as "choose one of the options"
13:54<dualbus>(sorry about not being clear)
13:55<Mongo44>Ok it says iceweasel is already installed and doesn't give me any options.
13:56<brahman>Hi am looking at configuring suspend/hibernate. I am finding it difficutl to find docs. Should I be looking at pm-utils or s2ram? the jessie wiki page is very bare. (
13:56<sney>ok, so you already have a browser then
13:56<sney>brahman: should be essentially the same as wheezy
13:56<Mongo44>Cool alright now I got iceweasel.
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13:57<brahman>sney: ok, will read up on that. so should I be looking at pm-utils or s2ram?
13:58<sney>well, it looks like pm-utils was more recently updated
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14:08<Mongo44>I don't know how to unpack a tar.gz
14:09<dpkg>A short reference of Debian commands - quite useful for someone new to Debian - can be found at and packaged for Debian as debian-refcard. See also <grounding>, <vim refcard>.
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14:10<sney>also, 'man tar'
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14:10<sney>and if the tar.gz file that you have is for some software application, first do 'apt-cache search programname' because most things are already in debian
14:11<brahman>sney: thanks for this am looking into the pm-utils package.
14:11<sney>brahman: no problem
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14:12<brahman>sney: docs on this subject are a bit lacking, probably due to the many different possible implementations of suspend/hibernate...
14:12*brahman is off to walk the dog
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14:12<sney>brahman: I'd try to clear it up for you but I don't use either permutation of suspend. the only thing I know is for hibernate, you need at least as much swap as you have system ram
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14:13<koanhead>Mongo44, do read `man tar`, but some relevant switches are -x to extract, -z to decompress, -v to verify integrity
14:13<koanhead>I usually use all 3 to extract a tarball like -zxv
14:13<sney>v doesn't verify, v is verbose. it barfs the filenames to stdout as it extracts them
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14:14<koanhead>doh, then better not take my advice and read `man tar` instead ;^)
14:14<koanhead>or maybe I should read it before trying to advise others
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14:18<hseg>How do I remove a package, its dependencies and its configuration files?
14:19<hseg>I'd have thought that apt-get remove, apt-get autoremove and rm -rf of the remaining files would suffice, but the configuration files remained.
14:19<Leon>@hseg apt-get remove --purge <package>
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14:21<hseg>Thanks. Comming from Arch Linux, this feels a bit too much work behind the scenes.
14:21<hseg>But hey, this is your way of doing things.
14:21<Leon>And dependancies can be removed afterwards by running apt-get autoremove (be sure to check there's nothing important is scheduled for uninstall)
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14:22<Leon>Hehe, I had the same questions once :)
14:22<roughnecks>you can --purge also with autoremeve
14:22<AzTeC>Is there a way to install Deb with a different kernel from the start, like 3.12.7?
14:22<Leon>im not sure if --purge also removed configfiles you've edited
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14:23<hseg>Apparently it does, as it removed /etc/tomcat7 when I purged tomcat
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14:23<Leon>Maybe i should have added that upfront!
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14:28*adb reinstall Debian
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14:29<miguel>Hey guys, I'm on wheezy, backporting a few packages from sid, how would I append the bpo number correctly? what is its right format? I enter "dch --bpo", but using default devscripts version (2.12.6+deb7u2) it shows "bpo60+1". Which I think is wrong. If I use devscripts from backports (2.13.4~bpo70+1), it shows bpo70+1, which isn't quite correct either, since cat /etc/debian_version shows 7.3
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14:32<sney>miguel: if you're backporting for distribution, ask in #debian-mentors, but if you're backporting for yourself then you can do whatever makes you happy
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14:36<miguel>I'd like to know what is the right format sney
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14:38<fredf>which kernels do the binary blobs at work with?
14:38<sney>miguel: ask in #debian-mentors then
14:38<miguel>alright sney, thanks
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14:40<Mongo44>I am trying to install Scrollz irc client from a tar.gz file.
14:40<sney>fredf: good question. doesn't seem to be listed anywhere obvious
14:40<Mongo44>The make command doesn't seem to be working.
14:41<sney>!b-e Mongo44
14:41<dpkg>Mongo44: Sounds like you need to aptitude install build-essential.
14:41<Mongo44>I also tried /configure which did nothing.
14:41<fredf>sney: any chance that its kernel version independent (at least somewhat)? I installed from a wheeze netinst
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14:42<sney>fredf: yeah, it's likely, I think the other common wifi binaries are kernel independent as well
14:42<fredf>sney ok i'll give it a chance...
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14:43<dualbus>Mongo44: build problems are related to the program in particular. If you're building from source, follow the vendor instructions
14:43<sney>Mongo44: debian does not ship with the tools required for building software from source, you have to install them. that's why you need to install build-essential, as well as any build dependencies that the configure script complains about
14:44<Mongo44>Well that is kind of lame.
14:44<Leon>There's a precompiled version of scrollz in debian aswell tho
14:44<Mongo44>What is the command to install build-essential?
14:45<sney>Mongo44: the reason is that most software is already in debian. as leon suggests, did you try just 'apt-get install scrollz'
14:45<dualbus>Mongo44: apt-get is the command to install everthing that debian provides.
14:45<Mongo44>No I downloaded a tar.gz
14:46<Mongo44>Now I am trying to compile it.
14:46<sney>don't think of it like windows, where you download separate installers or whatever for the software you need
14:46<sney>debian's strength is the package manager, which contains many software packages already compiled for your system. use it.
14:46<dualbus>Mongo44: First try with the official method, which is using apt-get, if that is not available, then build from source, but then if it doesn't work, that issue should be solved by the provider of the package
14:47<dualbus>Mongo44: BTW, scrollz *is* available via apt-get: sudo apt-get install scrollz
14:47<Mongo44>I know that Ubuntu's software store contains many programs that are old versions.
14:48<dualbus>Mongo44: ubuntu is not debian.
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14:48<Leon>Well unless you need functionality that's only available in the newest versions it's just a lot of trouble for very little gain
14:48<dualbus>And yes, usually the version in the repositories is older than the most recent one, because there's a whole process to update a package.
14:48<Leon>especially since you'll have to keep track of security updates for self compiled stuff aswell
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14:50<Mongo44>Alright now that I have the client why is it not in the applications drop down menu?
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14:51<fredf>can an essid in /etc/network/interfaces contain a whitespace?
14:51<sney>because it's a terminal client, like irssi, so it's expected that users will launch it from a terminal
14:52<sney>fredf: I think so? I would put it in quotes, but that's just a guess
14:54<Mongo44>I am not sure of the location of the client.
14:54<dualbus>Mongo44: open a terminal, type: scrollz
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14:59<Mongo44>Anyone else here use a terminal client?
15:00<Leon>Welcome back, I do actually
15:00<Chex>I do, too. Irssi.
15:00<Chex>Irssi 0.8.15 (20100403) -
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15:01<Mongo44>When I try to join this channel on Scrollz it says I am banned. I wonder why.
15:01<sney>because you're logged in as root
15:01<sney>don't log in as root. use a normal user. god.
15:02<Mongo44>So I would need to type sudo scrollz?
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15:02<sney>you would need to be logged in as a regular user, and you would open a regular terminal, and you would type 'scrollz'
15:03<sney>and that way, your highest privileged user would not be exposed to any vulnerabilities that happen when you run a network chat client
15:03<Mongo44>I did that it just says that I am banned from this channel for some reason.
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15:04<Leon>What username do you log on with Mongo?
15:04<Leon>To your desktop i mean
15:04<Mongo44>I was using BoBo.
15:05<Leon>hmm, open a terminal and then type 'whoami', what does it say
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15:06<MOngo>Cool it worked I just had to use a regular terminal as opposed to root.
15:06<Leon>damn, that was gonna be my next question :)
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15:06<rryoumaa>try to use root as little as possible
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15:07<koanhead>you don't really ever need to login as root, since you can use `su` to temporarily elevate privileges as needed
15:08<koanhead>(but remember to `exit` out again when you don't need them more)
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15:09<MOngo>su as opposed to sudo?
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15:10<koanhead>yes, sudo is not installed by default iirc
15:10<koanhead>also some feel that sudo is bad for various reasons
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15:11<MOngo>alright what is a good game I can install?
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15:11<koanhead>try Battle for Wesnoth
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15:12<koanhead>MOngo, what kinds of games do you like?
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15:15<MOngo>How about sci-fi?
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15:16<MOngo>Also I created this VM with 2 GB ram and 20 GB memory. Is that plenty?
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15:17<Leon>Yeah shouldn't be a problem
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15:19<koanhead>there's vegastrike, or alienarena, chromium, lots more in synaptic under Games and Amusement
15:20<koanhead>also Ryzom works in debian (you can d/l the client from, run it from a terminal)
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15:20<koanhead>as does Diaspora and Quintet
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15:23<Leon>And for some old-school space shooting: kobodeluxe
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15:24<MOngo>what is synaptic?
15:24<Leon>It's a graphical frontend for apt-get
15:25<Leon>You can use it to install software
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15:28<koanhead>Is there a debianish way to set hotkeys in X (i.e., not in the WM)
15:28<Ophidian>hi, i'm having troubles connecting to a windows share through VPN on deb7 + gnome 3. I added PPTP for network manager, connected through VPN i try to add the share but i get an error "error connecting to the shared folder"
15:29<MOngo>I found synaptic. How do I filter results for games?
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15:29<koanhead>MOngo, click on the button marked "Sections" on lower left
15:29<Ophidian>on windows i just need add //SBS2008/folder ... so now i entered sbs2008 as server and shared folder as folder + i entered my credentials from the windows server
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15:30<sney>Ophidian: windows shares use SMB, which is supported by the linux packages smbclient and cifs-utils
15:30<Ophidian>sney: i installed samba
15:31<sney>samba is the server.
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15:31<Ophidian>oh .... :)
15:31<Leon>gnome3 should have brought in most of the stuff you need already
15:32<Ophidian>smbclient was already on my system
15:32<Leon>what program are you using to connect to the share?
15:32<Ophidian>activities -> files -> connect to server
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15:33<Leon>ok, Server address should be something like smb://sbs2008/folder then
15:33<MOngo>Can I view user reviews on synaptic?
15:33<sney>apt doesn't have a user review function
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15:33<sney>the closest thing would be popcon, I guess
15:33<Ophidian>Leon: i have to add everything in separate
15:33<Leon>tho it *might* be required to use the full name for the server
15:34<Leon>Ophidian: ah sorry, im running a slightly newer version of gnome3 i guess (Debian Testing)
15:34<Ophidian>i got stable
15:34<Ophidian>hard enough for newbies :)
15:35<Leon>hehe, trying to remember how the old dialogue looked
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15:37<Leon>ah found an old screenshot; share should be the first 'folder' name, leave Folder empty
15:38<MOngo>Ahhh, synaptic doesn't even have Warzon 2100.
15:39<blast007>MOngo: warzone2100 is not packaged for Debian Wheezy, so it wouldn't be in any of the package managers
15:39<Leon>and check in a terminal if you can ping the sbs2008 name, if not you'll have to find out the complete server's name
15:39<MOngo>My client isn't allowing me to scroll up.
15:40<blast007>MOngo: can't use the 'page up' key for that?
15:40<MOngo>I guess so, how about changing channels with a terminal-based client?
15:41<blast007>depends on the client
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15:42<MOngo>Are there any games in synaptic with good graphics?
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15:42<lostson>open arena
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15:43<MOngo>Synaptic only has wine version 1.4.1
15:44<blast007>Debian Wheezy only has that version. It has nothing to do with synaptic...
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15:44<dualbus>MOngo: Any reason you're not researching these questions somewhere like, Google, or DuckDuckGo? (the ones about games, and how to use your IRC client)
15:44<sney>wine 1.4 is plenty for most windows stuff anyway
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15:45<LeonH>@Ophidian And most likely the server had the default policy: 'Microsoft network server: Digitally sign communications (always)' set to enabled, which if i remember correctly doesn't work with the smbclient in wheezy
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15:45<LeonH>@ophidian You'd have to convice the server's Admin to change that.
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15:47<Ophidian>LeonH: i can access the server ...
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15:48<LeonH>Ah good!
15:49<LeonH>what fixed the problem?
15:49<Ophidian> but it seems that my vpn connections fails ...
15:49<Ophidian>LeonH: misunderstanding -> i meant that i can access the windows server as an admin ... connection to the share still fails
15:50<Ophidian>windows server is pptp vpn right ?
15:50<LeonH>usually is
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15:51<MOngo>I installed a game that I can't find.
15:52<LeonH>My vpn knowledge isn't all that good sadly
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15:52<LeonH>@MOngo what did you install?
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15:53<MOngo>typespeed. Also if debian comes default with chess I can't find 3dchess either.
15:54<valdyn>!info 3dchess
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15:54<dpkg>3dchess: (Play chess across 3 boards!), section games, is optional. Version: 0.8.1-17 (sid), Packaged size: 34 kB, Installed size: 152 kB
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15:54<MOngo>I guess I can't find that either.
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15:55<LeonH>typespeed should ust be; start terminal; typespeed
15:55<Ophidian>LeonH: my overall knowledge isn't good, that's even worse :)
15:56<LeonH>And 3dchess, terminal -> 3Dc
15:56<MOngo>If I install a bunch of games and I can't remember the names, they might be lost.
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15:56<valdyn>MOngo: ls /usr/games/
15:57<LeonH>They're generally all on the place valdyn just mentioned
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15:59<LeonH>And you should be able to see which games are installed through synaptic aswell
15:59<MOngo>Why doesn't ls ~/games work?
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15:59<LeonH>~ is short for 'my homedir'
16:00<LeonH>your homedir probably doesn't have a folder called 'games'
16:00<LeonH>(homedir being /home/<username> normally)
16:00<MOngo>Well there is a way to truncate the address right?
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16:01<valdyn>MOngo: its a patch, not an address, and you cant truncate it
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16:02<LeonH>patch? path you mean :)
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16:02<valdyn>MOngo: you type "ls /u<tab>/g<tab> if you want to hit few keys
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16:03<MOngo>I guess so, how about changing channels with a terminal-based client?It is pretty difficult learning Gnome when I have only used Unity.
16:03<valdyn>MOngo: thats not exactly what you type, but play with that and you will see
16:03<MOngo>I guess so, how about changing channels with a terminal-based client?It is pretty difficult learning Gnome when I have only used Unity.
16:03<valdyn>MOngo: /j #channel
16:03<MOngo>forget the question.
16:04<MOngo>I asked that previously.
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16:07<MOngo>In synaptic a double click will install the package right?
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16:11<dpkg>TIAS is "Try It And See".
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16:19<MOngo>I am a dummy. It took me a while but I finally learned how to use Synptic.
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16:19<MOngo>Or Synaptic rather.
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17:35<dpkg>methinks ciao is both hello and goodbye (casual), or a slow and old but widely known Prolog interpreter.
17:36<maurizio>!come funziona
17:36<dpkg>Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help.
17:36<maurizio>!ok grazie
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17:37<dpkg>somebody said ciao was both hello and goodbye (casual), or a slow and old but widely known Prolog interpreter.
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17:39<maurizio>! ciao come funziona
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17:42<sney>maurizio: vai su #debian-it con '/join #debian-it' digitato
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18:17<koanhead>does anyone here have experience with using gpg2 in scripts?
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18:20<musca>koanhead: let gpg itself ask for password
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18:20<musca>so you can utilize an agent for providing the password.
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18:23<koanhead>musca, I need to be able to run the script from a hotkey, and gpg's passphrase dialog is suppressed when I do that
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18:25<koanhead>btw the meat of it is `xsel -o | gpg -s | xsel -i`
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18:26<themill>eep... passprases on the clipboard?
18:26<koanhead>so as to be able to sign arbitrary selections
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18:26<themill>koanhead: last I looked at it, gpg2 wasn't really in a good place for any sort of automation; gpg was better at that
18:26<koanhead>no clipboard, primary selection, and it does not get the passphrase
18:27<themill>oh, yes. I see
18:28<themill>koanhead: perhaps using gpg-agent having it call pinentry-gtk would be better
18:28<koanhead>themill, thanks for that, I thought gpg was an alias for gpg2 but they are different after all
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18:32<koanhead>themill, I did not know about pinentry, that looks like it ought to fix the problem
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18:37<Mongo44>Is debian supposed to have a launcher?
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18:39<devil>Mongo44: to do what?
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18:44<nevyn>Mongo44: some of keithp's debian systems have launchers...
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18:51<Mongo44>Most do not right?
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18:52<themill>you might need to explain what you mean by launcher
18:55<Mongo44>That thing that you can select programs from. Not the dash.
18:55<nevyn>themill: I didn't think anyone would get that ;)
18:56<abrotman>Mongo44: which DE are you getting
18:56<abrotman>erm .. using
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18:59<Mongo44>Say if you use Ubuntu It is a list of programs on the left side of the desktop.
18:59<abrotman>Mongo44: which desktop are oyu using? Can you take a picture or describe it?
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19:06<Mongo44>It is a list of programs on the desktop that you can scroll through by running the mouse over it. Windows doesn't use launchers Apple and Ubuntu do.
19:07<abrotman>Mongo44: Does your keyboard have a Windows key?
19:08<abrotman>have you tried hitting that?
19:08<themill>,i docker
19:08<judd>Package docker (x11, optional) in wheezy/i386: System tray for KDE3/GNOME2 docklet applications. Version: 1.4-5; Size: 12.1k; Installed: 44k
19:08<themill>Mongo44: ^^ that sort of thing, perhaps?
19:08<abrotman>If he's running Gnome3, he already has what he's after
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19:10<themill>I didn't think gnome3 had quite got as far as imitating OSX yet
19:10<abrotman>If you hit the WinKey in Gnome3, it opens a bit of a dock on the left side
19:10<abrotman>And shows desktops on the right
19:10<abrotman>OSX doesn't do that
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19:10<abrotman>(or not that i've stumbled into)
19:11<themill>ah. Perhaps I should have another go at seeing if I can get it to work at all inside a VM
19:12<abrotman>apparently his WinKey logs him out of IRC ..
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19:17<Mongo44>I have scrollz client and I am not really sure how to use it.
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19:17<blast007>Mongo44: have you read their documentation?
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19:25<Mongo44>I would say I successfully set up my Debian VM. Thanks for the help fellas.
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20:03<tron>Hey guys I am having a problem I just installed linux on my laptop debian wheezy 7.2 my laptop has 500 gig hard drive and 8 gig's of ram i set / 349.2mb /home 470.4gb /usr 9.0gb /var 3.0gb /tmp 398.5mb swap 16.1gb
20:03<tron>where did i go wrong
20:04<tron>i am getting message's poping up on my desktop saying that memery is full /var any ideas people
20:05<dvs>tron: Why so many partitions?
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20:06<tron>dvs i have installed linux on this laptop more times than i can count and puting so many partitions is what seems to work the best
20:07<dvs>to each their own
20:07<tron>dvs i seem to run into less errors of low disk space with all the partitions like that
20:07<dvs>how's it working for you now?
20:08<tron>dvs hey i am not saying i am right for it just saying that is just what has given me less problems
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20:09<tron>dvs it was working fine until i used the debian auto partitioning tool on the last install and that is what the tool set it up to be i mean my old way was a waste of space but never low disk space
20:09<dvs>tron: I'd just make a 100GB / and leave the rest for /home.
20:10<tron>dvs my old way that i would do the patition was / 75gb /home 344 gb /usr 25gb /var 25gb /tmp 15gb swap 16gb yea i already know that was a huge waste of space why i changed it but wasnt for the best as we can see lol
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20:11<abrotman>tron: apt-get clean
20:11<tron>abrotman i have done that with no profit
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20:12<tron>i have cleaned and cleaned things in the system and to no good and still like that i think that i just may have to go back to the old way
20:12<tron>dvs why do you say 100 gb on root ?
20:13<tron>dvs i am just wondering due to me have been thinking that also my self well more like back to 75
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20:13<dvs>tron: I just like round numbers. you could definitel get away with 50GB
20:14<tron>dvs what sounds good with the /var i see 3 gb isnt going to cut is so i think that i am just going to tweak things up a bit until i hit the sweet spot
20:14<tron>dvs /var 10 gb how does that sound
20:15<dvs>I wouldn't do it that way.
20:15<dvs>tron: You really should look into LVM if you like several partitions
20:15<tron>dvs why do you say so much on root if you dont mind me asking
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20:15<tron>dvs i for one am one of those that beleaves that there is not one right or wrong way to partition a hd for linux
20:16<dvs>tron: There is no right or wrong way but there are definitely ways that are better than others.
20:16<tron>dvs and also i love hearing the ideas from others
20:17<tron>dvs i truly agree
20:18<tron>synrg what do you think
20:18<abrotman>wtf ..
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20:19<abrotman>dpkg: tell tron about lvm
20:19<tron>abrotman i have spoke to synrg before i like the idea of the voice of all
20:19<tron>no disrespect to anyone
20:21*abrotman can't decode ..
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21:05<AlexLikeRock>hi, i try to intall printer by IPP / URL
21:05<AlexLikeRock>i add model, etc,etc
21:05<AlexLikeRock>on the final ask for a root pasww to add printer
21:05<AlexLikeRock>next ask for AUTENTICATION (adding printer HP-Ph...)
21:06<AlexLikeRock>what user for this ?
21:06<AlexLikeRock>talk abou my local user o remmote user ?
21:07<AlexLikeRock>i try my user and remote user , and say ...
21:07<AlexLikeRock>"Not authorized
21:07<AlexLikeRock> The password may be incorrect."
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21:08<AlexLikeRock>mus be a root (local or remote )
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21:25<birch>AlexLikeRock, try root and root password
21:25<AlexLikeRock>with local root ?
21:25<AlexLikeRock> or remote ?
21:25<birch>AlexLikeRock, remote. then try local.
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21:26<birch>AlexLikeRock, it wants credentials. you just need to find which so start locally and move outward. sometimes it wants credentials but doesn't really need, so include "null" as a possibility.
21:27<birch>by "null" i mean blank is okay, or bullshit is okay. it wants something but it might not need something. understand?
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21:28<AlexLikeRock>what mean "duplexer installed "?
21:28<birch>AlexLikeRock, sounds like it worked. try it oud :)
21:28<birch>duplexer sounds like a convoluted way of saying printer.
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21:28<AlexLikeRock>root passs give to me a error :
21:29<AlexLikeRock>"There was an error during the CUPS operation: 'client-error-not-possible'. "
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21:29<AlexLikeRock>i need restart my remote PC ?
21:30<birch>AlexLikeRock, not sure but it wouldn't hurt.
21:30<AlexLikeRock>i tinng no found my remote PC
21:30<AlexLikeRock>yes :(
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21:33<AlexLikeRock>birch, its working ....
21:33<AlexLikeRock>testing ...
21:33<AlexLikeRock> i forget "ipp://"
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21:37<AlexLikeRock>its add the printher but , not print
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21:38<birch>AlexLikeRock, does i give an error? check dmesg and the usual sys error logs.
21:38<AlexLikeRock> ipp://
21:38<AlexLikeRock>how to now if my pc can read remote printert ?
21:39<birch>AlexLikeRock, i don't know and the person i'd ask isn't on atm
21:39<birch>I would think that if you have remote root you can though
21:39<Mongo44>I'd really like to play typespeed but I can't find it.
21:39<birch>Mongo44, please be more specific
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21:40<Mongo44>I installed it with synaptic, but it is not under games.
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21:42<birch>Mongo44, try running the name in terminal, or going to the folder and locating the bin file. you can then add the bin file to the launch menu under games by going into the settings and adding a new option with the terminal command
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21:43<birch>(you may have to go into the nautilus settings and show hidden folders)
21:45<AlexLikeRock>birch, http://localhost:631/admin/
21:45<AlexLikeRock>whis one ?
21:46<AlexLikeRock> Internet Printing Protocol (ipp14)
21:46<AlexLikeRock>Internet Printing Protocol (ipp)
21:46<AlexLikeRock>ipp or ipp14 ?
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21:47<Mongo44>I got it. What is the shortcut for the terminal?
21:47<birch>AlexLikeRock, no idea, just try both until they work?
21:47<AlexLikeRock>not work :_(
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21:48<birch>Mongo44, do you mean to open terminal or to use in terminal? Alt + F2 usually lets you issue a command. Otherwise Terminal is under Accessories in Gnome3/Shell. If you mean to run the command in terminal then it's either the name of the app or the name of the bin file.
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21:54<Mongo44>Anybody played 3d chess?
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21:55<Guest3730>wats up
21:56<Guest3730>first time using irc
21:57<birch>Guest3730 this is a support channel and not meant for off topic chat. Please go to #debian-offtopic or another channel.
21:58<bob135>freindly chap, ain't you?
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22:10<Mongo44>Anyway on 3d chess I was wondering if the computer could be set as the opponent.
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22:27<toshiba-net>Testing 1-2-3...
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22:28<toshiba-net>Have I reached the Debian channel...? Please respond.
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22:35<toshiba-net>How do I get Xubuntu 12.04 LTS to recognize a 128GB SanDisk Ultra SDXC card? This card uses the exFAT memory format, but there's no such package in Synaptic on Xubuntu. Any advice?
22:35<themill>toshiba-net: why do you ask #debian?
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22:36<toshiba-net>themill: Noone's on the Xubuntu channel and Xubuntu is based on Debian.
22:37<abrotman>toshiba-net: Xubuntu is not supported here, we only support Debian
22:37<abrotman>toshiba-net: perhaps you should try ##linux on
22:37<themill>toshiba-net: you could ask #ubuntu on (also #xubuntu is not on this network either)
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22:38<toshiba-net>Thanks for the leads. Best of luck to you all! =D
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22:40<joseph-soares>hi, what's wrong? I have debian 7 in my laptop dell inspiron n5010 and I'm using a 20" screen samsung
22:41<abrotman>what's wrong with what/
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22:44<joseph-soares>sorry abrotman
22:44<joseph-soares>abrotman, system is not recognize the screen anymore after timout of display has gone
22:45<joseph-soares>abrotman, now it's a unrecognized display and I can use only 1024x768(4:3) resolution
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22:48<joseph-soares>abrotman, I use it at the vga output
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22:48<joseph-soares>any idea?
22:50<wallz>Greetings. For some reason, my Debian box can no longer update. I can ssh, and ping Google, but when I update, it hangs on
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23:02<joseph-soares>abrotman, any idea?
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23:08<Kasayarou>I was trying to restart X, and I accidentally hit Ctrl-Alt-Break-K instead of Ctrl-Alt-SysRq-K. My system is now locked up. What did I just do?
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23:14<blob>Hello fella's I have a question, I was wondering if there are any benifits to booting into the command line rather than the GUI. The more I learn about linux and the more I get used to using the terminal I just feel that the GUI "GNOME'' just slowing me down
23:15<abrotman>blob: it's your system, use it as you wish
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23:16<blob>abrotman i mean sometimes i need the gui i mean i dont think that i could go web serfing from the command line so is there a way that i can set my box up to give me the option to boot into the command like or gui
23:17<blob>or how would i set it up to just boot into the comman line and use startx when i need the gui
23:17<abrotman>dpkg: tell blob about nodm
23:17<blob>abrotman thanks
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23:19<blob>abrotman i use some programs like sort, wlm "word list manipulater' if i am not running those in a gui they should run and work faster right ? i mean i am going to be running them from the term anyway you know
23:19<abrotman>marginally faster
23:20<blob>abrotman i was just getting the filling that the gui kinda slows things down a bit
23:20<abrotman>then don't use it
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23:22<blob>when you are doing a fresh install of linux what options should you go with to avoid extra blote and things you dont need from being installed if you dont have the busness card iso
23:22<koanhead>blob, if you are using a pc newer than about 10 years old / at least as powerful as a raspberry pi you'll never notice the difference
23:22<koanhead>most of the time the computer is waiting for you, not vice versa
23:23<blob>koanhead my laptop is not even a year old
23:23<koanhead>when you install debian I recommend a minimal install via netinstall image
23:23<blob>and it now has twice the ram than it did when i first got it
23:23<koanhead>then you can decide what to install from a running system
23:23<themill>the different install images all have the same installer -- it doesn't matter whether you use the business card, netinst or DVD1.
23:24<blob>cool thanks a lot
23:24<koanhead>so speed concerns are very very unlikely to arise with a lappy that new
23:24<koanhead>especially with the text processing type stuff youtalked about doing
23:24<koanhead>unless you are working with *really* big datasets
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23:25<blob>scense i got into learning to program and got more used to linux agen when i program i am using nano to write my code in and when i am working with word list for school i am just straght out using terminal and i was kinda just wondering if things would change any
23:25<blob>thanks for all the info guys
23:26<RageRiot|>hi, I'm having trouble with firewall config, I'm using csf which uses iptables which I've posted here
23:26<RageRiot|>I get locked out when I reboot the server.
23:26<koanhead>blob, wait till you see how fast gcc goes when you use multiple modern processor cores :)
23:27<blob>koanhead lol well i am only running a pentium right now i am thinking about changing it out soon
23:28<blob>koanhead i been away from computers for a good while after my brain damage so many many things has changed with computers from the time i stoped playing with them to know what kinda processor would you recommend
23:29<koanhead>blob, you said the laptop was less than a year old
23:29<blob>the dual core is new for me i havent got into looking at them yet
23:29<koanhead>my current desktop is an amd a10, I'm happy with it so far
23:29<blob>yes i just got it not to long ago cause i wanted to get back into computers
23:30<koanhead>not the fastest but good performance for price
23:30<blob>i just got back into computers 5 months ago i been away from them for a little over 10 years
23:31<koanhead>RageRiot, it might be easier to understand your firewall situation if you just post a normal `iptables -L` but I'm looking at it now
23:31<RageRiot|>I just got into linux about 4 months ago. ditched windows and installed linux mint. I installed debian on a server project I'm working on but cant get the damm firewall to work
23:32<blob>koanhead a friend of mine was talking about the company he works for getting rid of some computers and they was letting the works take some of them if they wanted them he said they have a rack server and i asked if her would get it for me i am really
23:32<blob>wanting to know what that sucker will do lol
23:32<blob>thats what you call a desktop lol
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23:32<RageRiot|>seems to work fine with test I've setup like blocking port 80 for apche and SSH and it works but I reboot the server and it's dead to the world until I netboot into recovery
23:33<blob>how loud is a rack server
23:33<koanhead>REALLY LOUD
23:33<koanhead>louder than that
23:33<koanhead>more like REALLY REALLY LOUD!!
23:34<blob>still would love to have it i think it would be cool to play with to learn about web hosting or somthing sure that it could be used for some educational good for me lol
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23:34<koanhead>RageRiot, I think there's a problem with address, zero is not a valid netmask I think
23:34<RageRiot|>the project I'm working on is basicly a migration of the services from a bed room server to a dedicated server in france. but the bedroom server is REALLY loud, at boot up the fans at full speed are horible
23:36<blob>if i did take him up on the offer for the server if i wanted to play with web hosting i wouldnt need apache for it right ?
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23:36<RageRiot|>this is the default configureation that csf setup, I only added the ssh port and took out the apache port.
23:36<blob>and later on i would like to play with also like a mail server so what would i use for that
23:37<koanhead>blob, there are many options for different server programs
23:37<koanhead>personally i use exim4 for mail transport, dovecot for delivery, apache for httpd
23:37<RageRiot|>blob apache is the de-facto web server
23:37<koanhead>but there are many others available and I'm not claiming my choices are best
23:38<RageRiot|>and the best
23:38<blob>i was also thinking about setting the server up and makeing my other computers go through it for internet access would that offer any security binefits?
23:38<koanhead>apache is *by far* the most popular httpd
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23:38<koanhead>yes if you do it correctly, learn iptables
23:38<blob>koanhead i am open to any idea's i am sure you know more than i do about these things
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23:38<koanhead>iptables is very very important, even if you use a different firewall such as shorewall etc
23:39<jeep>apache is not always the best ... depends on the usage
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23:39<blob>koanhead i was thinking about not letting any of my computers talk to the world and only letting the server to the internet
23:39<blob>koanhead i use iptables with gufw
23:39<blob>like i said i am having to lean most of this stuff all over agen
23:39<RageRiot|>I acctually want to do this, I want to setup a firewall and router on a box with debian and proably add squidproxy
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23:40<RageRiot|>and over time more store like bigger drives for central media storage.
23:40<blob>i have read about squid what does that do exactly ?
23:40<koanhead>I've tried and failed to do this myself, and successfully helped someone else do it
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23:40<koanhead>dpkg, tell blob about squid
23:41<blob>koanhead when i was talking about only letting my server talk to the world and other computers going through it for internet what all secuity would that offer?
23:41<RageRiot|>blob it's a proxy server
23:41<koanhead>yay, that worked
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23:41<RageRiot|>it acts as cache to store recently accessed pages
23:41<blob>rageriot all i really have gotten back into with proxy so fare is tor
23:42<koanhead>blob, in that situation your computer would be a router
23:42<blob>to keep from putting strain on webservers right ?
23:42<koanhead>it would also act as the firewall for your other computers
23:42<RageRiot|>so say in a school of 400 or more student a proxy is used so the shools internet doesnt have to download the page multiple times if a lot of user are surfing at the same time
23:42<blob>less stress ok
23:42<koanhead>RageRiot, I used squid in exactly this way at my last job, it works a treat
23:43<blob>if i did that i wonder how much it would slow down my internet access for me
23:44<RageRiot|>at least you had the opportunity too, I worked in a primary school and they used somthing called a cache pilot. it was red hat based but I had limited admin access and the interface was horrible.
23:44<koanhead>blob, your internet access would mostly be faster
23:44<koanhead>sometimes MUCH faster
23:44<RageRiot|>blob it would put less stress on the connection
23:45<koanhead>blob, here's a networking primer I wrote a while back:
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23:45<koanhead>it's not finished yet
23:45<blob>cool thank you
23:45<RageRiot|>but if you only have occasion web browsing through the connection it wouldnt be of much benifit
23:45<blob>sorry guys for all the questions i have just always loved computers and now getting to play with them agen i feel like a child at christmas
23:45<koanhead>yes, squid is only useful when there are many clients going for the same files over and over
23:46<RageRiot|>np blob. most people that come here have tons of question at once :P
23:47<RageRiot|>like me and these iptables. if is invalid wouldn't iptables spit it back out.
23:47<blob>i hate to have to ask questions i just really feel like a dummy now days one point and time i could do what i wanted with out having to ask and now well sure you get the point
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23:48<RageRiot|>ithe gratest speakers in history have always said you wont get for that which you dont ask.
23:48<koanhead>here's a pdf I got from drokmed on the debian forums that tells how to set up your home Debian router:
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23:49<blob>cool would love to take a look at it
23:49<koanhead>blob, I feel like a dummy all the damn time
23:49<koanhead>asking and answering help me to be less of a dummy
23:49<koanhead>i hope
23:49<blob>sorry to hear know how it feels
23:50<blob>i been trying to learn as much as i can about programming i dont know if that would be going about it the wrong way or not but i just cant help but to feel that if i learn to program agen i can learn all the things i once new
23:50<koanhead>blob, if you live in a city consider finding and joining your local linux user group
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23:51<blob>never heard of those
23:51<blob>sounds interesting
23:51<koanhead>if you are in seattle you can join (or the original in portland)
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23:52<blob>do you guys think programing would help me out a lot with learning it all over agen
23:52<blob>i am studing C now
23:52<koanhead>dunno, try it and see
23:52<koanhead>worst thing that happens is you have some fun programming, right?
23:53<blob>everyone has been telling me to learn perl or python first but for some reason and i dont know why but C i am just picking up on easyer
23:53<koanhead>btw- anyone in or near seattle, check out
23:53<koanhead>give some love to your LUG
23:53<blob>but before the brain damage i was a c and c++ programmer maybe there is something that is clicking from the past never know
23:54<RageRiot|>sorry to here that blob.
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23:55<blob>hey no biggie there is a reason for everything
23:55<RageRiot|>If you've still got the interest in it then give it a shot.
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23:55<blob>i have always loved computers from the time i was a kid i dont know what it is about them with me
23:56<blob>i just love them
23:56<RageRiot|>in the past I never really wanted to program I was just good with computer but I've given it some though now. I can do some html and php/mysql but I'd like to learn some C I thin
23:56<RageRiot|>blob I do to :P
23:57<koanhead>c is cool, but it's hard cause stuff that is automatic in other languages must be done explicitly
23:57<blob><----------------- geek here cant help it lol
23:57<RageRiot|>where are you from blob if you dont mine me asking
23:57<koanhead>also, the code/compile/test cycle is longer than code/test
23:57<koanhead>but it's worth it for what it can do
23:58<blob>i have heard many say c was hard honestly c was the first language that i learned i remember when i was wanting to get into programming so many people said learn perl back then and now people saying python ro perl
23:58<blob>to be honest c just comes easyer to me
23:59<blob>but at the end of the day i think that people that want to get into it what they need to do is study a little of differnt ones and see what they think would be the easy one for them and go with that what that you catch up on easy
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