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#debian IRC Logs for 2014-01-14

---Logopened Tue Jan 14 00:00:25 2014
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00:00<blob>non of us are the same so pick what is right for you and not what others say is right for you
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00:02<blob>well fella's i am going to take off, have a good night and thank you so very much for all of your help
00:02<blob>koanhead rageriot thank you two a bunch.
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00:39<joseph-soares>my external monitor is recognized sometimes only
00:39<joseph-soares>it's a samsung 20"
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00:39<joseph-soares>I have used 1600 x 900 but not it's not recognized anymore after a timeout lock screen
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00:42<joseph-soares>any idea please
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01:58<linuxator>how to get archive manager for gnome?
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02:03<snogglethorpe>linuxator: "file-roller"?
02:04<linuxator>snogglethorpe, something like winrer
02:04<linuxator>snogglethorpe, something like winrar
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02:07<snogglethorpe>linuxator: yeah, I think file-roller is kinda like that
02:07<snogglethorpe>[but I haven't run it to make sure]
02:08<linuxator>snogglethorpe, which is default in gnome?
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02:09<musca>yes, file-roller is the default.
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02:14<palou_GR>good morning! i have this error after chroot
02:14<palou_GR>bash: ls: command not found
02:14<palou_GR>/usr/bin/env: bash: No such file or directory
02:20<palou_GR>any help?
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02:24<SamB>palou_GR: it sounds like you are missing some programs from your chroot ...
02:26<palou_GR>i lost PATH. if i use PATH=%PATH:/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin work chroot but i miss local terminal
02:27<jm_>how exactly can you "lose" PATH?
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02:27<palou_GR>when run chroot to my debian hdd then i must type all the above path to work my chroot
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02:28<jm_>how do you enter your chroot?
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02:30<palou_GR>running this http://pastebin.com/nPgms40B
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02:33<jm_>this suggests two things to me - either you don't have PATH set correctly before you begin doing this, or one of those commands is messing with your environment (sudo is known to do that)
02:33<jm_>you can try sudo -E but it depends on what's in sudoers file
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02:34<palou_GR>i have two linux in my pc. ARCH and Debian. Each of them work perfect. When try to chroot from Arch to Debian i take this error .
02:34<jm_>(sudo -V run as root shows what's removed etc)
02:35<jm_>yes, see above
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02:35<jm_>it's not an issue with debian, it's related to arch so you may get more help from them
02:35<jordanm>palou_GR: is one 64bit and the other 32bit?
02:36<palou_GR>no both are 64bit
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02:41<ivanov>hi :)
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04:25<ixi>how do I permanently set ulimit -c to unlimited? I've added "* soft core unlimited" to /etc/security/limits.conf but after reboot I see "core file size (blocks, -c) 0" in ulimit -a
04:26<weasel>where do you run that ulimit -a?
04:30<ixi>in root's shell after reboot
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04:34<jm_>how do you become root?
04:36<ixi>su -
04:36<jm_>check if PAM su config includes PAM limits module
04:37<ixi>ok
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05:05<linuxator>how to get the simple scanner application?
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05:13<roughnecks>simple-scan?
05:13<roughnecks>!info simple-scan
05:14<dpkg>simple-scan: (Simple Scanning Utility), section gnome, is optional. Version: 3.10.0-1 (sid), Packaged size: 217 kB, Installed size: 1029 kB
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05:46<linuxator>roughnecks, got it now,rhanx
05:46<linuxator>roughnecks, got it now,thanx
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06:53<rindolf>Hi all.
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06:53<rindolf>themill: https://alioth.debian.org/ is still giving me the "Untrusted connection" error on Firefox.
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06:54<themill>rindolf: firefox or iceweasel?
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06:54<rindolf>themill: Firefox - on Mageia Linux x86-64 Cauldron.
06:54<jm_>perhaps look at certificate details and go *doh*
06:55<themill>that's probably to be expected, alioth uses a cert that is signed by the SPI which Debian trusts but the SSL cabal do not.
06:55<rindolf>themill: I need to access alioth for the bash-completion project there.
06:55<themill>You'd need to tell your browser to trust either SPI or ca.debian.org or the alioth cert.
06:55<themill>http://www.spi-inc.org/ca/
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06:57<rindolf>themill: sounds like a sucky workaround.
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06:58<themill>SSL certificates are sucky.
06:58<rindolf>themill: fine, I'll permanently accept the cert.
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07:04<petn-randall>I honestly don't know how running a CA not accepted by most browsers increases security. Especially since certificate pinning isn't possible with most browsers by default.
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07:06<themill>petn-randall: the point is that it doesn't decrease security, not that it increases it
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07:09<petn-randall>themill: I think that it just trains users to think it's ok to accept "invalid" certs. I agree that the CA system is broken, but with it at least the attacker needs to get a valid cert for the domain to hijack the connection. Without it you just need to be able to operate openssl.
07:09<jm_>and recent years have shown that it's relatively easy to get that :)
07:09<themill>indeed
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07:11<themill>petn-randall: you have to trust *all* CAs will not issue bogus certs or be otherwise compromised to issue bogus or wildcard certs. Given than there were bogus google.com certs floating around a couple of months ago and any browser seeing these certs would just show you a "it's all very secure" padlock icon, I don't think we're in a situation were this is helping at all
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07:21<petn-randall>Let's continue this discussion on #debian-offtopic.
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08:40<JLambrecht>Hello World
08:40<rindolf>JLambrecht: hi.
08:41<JLambrecht>Ah :-D
08:41<JLambrecht>@rindolf why do i not see any messages flying by ?
08:42<rindolf>JLambrecht: don't know.
08:42<abrotman>Why would you? People only talk if they have problems.
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08:42<rindolf>JLambrecht: I think #debian on Freenode is more active.
08:42<JLambrecht>:-D
08:42<JLambrecht>*sigh*
08:43<abrotman>no talking, all problems solved .. sounds good to me
08:43<JLambrecht>well, i'm here to ruin the party
08:43<JLambrecht>same for debian-security i figure ?
08:44<abrotman>or everyone is asleep
08:44<JLambrecht>or eating
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08:45<JLambrecht>this must be how games like rogues got their atmosphere
08:45<JLambrecht>Rogue , excuse me
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08:48<JLambrecht> i'll be back or go to freenode then, thanks
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09:55<this>hii
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10:02<benallard>Hi ! I'm looking for a guide to add a local debian archive to my sbuild environment.
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10:47<blob>i am about to install a fresh debian wheezy system on my computer today and i was thinking about leaving about 10gb of disk space out of the partitioning so that i can go back later and put it where it may be needed would i be able to take free space that i never put in a partition and put it where it is needed later?
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10:47<mtn>blob: yes, you can, but why not just make one large partition to begin with?
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10:48<trico>yes, but im not sure if there's a performance penalty if you have the partition in two pieces like that
10:48<trico>you should probably just do it right the first time
10:49<blob>mtn i have tryed many differnt ways of partitioning my hard drive and it seems at the moment when i set up the partitions like / , /home, /usr, /var, /tmp, swap it seems to be working out better i just need to find out the right sizes needed for my system not
10:50<blob>and that is why i am thinking about leaving 10gb of free space sitting around
10:51<mtn>blob: lots and lots of extra work, but you should be able to change things later. make sure to have good backups
10:51<blob>mtn ok
10:51<blob>mtn i havnt tryed one large partition with debian as of yet, only ubuntu but what are the binifets of haveing one large partition to more than one/
10:51<blob>?
10:52<trico> / = 2gb, /usr = 10gb min, /var = 2gb min, more if you have a server, tmp = 2gb min, swap = 0, /home = remaining
10:52<mtn>blob: no downside at all in my mind. it is the only way I do it.
10:52<blob>trico i had /var set up at 3gb and i got a warning message that i am running out of space on it
10:52<blob>mtn ok
10:53<blob>mtn i just may give that a try
10:54<blob>mtn i mean everything with debian is working better than ubuntu did so i think i will try it
10:54<mtn>blob: yep, debian is good. good luck
10:54<Eco>THe benefits of 1 large partition........ you don't run out of diskspace...... until the complete drive is full.
10:54<blob>mtn thank you much
10:54<mtn>blob: you're welcome
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10:54<blob>eco ok
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10:55<blob>mtn how to i keep debian from going straight into gnome and make it go to the command line and i use the startx command when i want gnome
10:56<blob>know of a good place i can learn to set it up like that ?
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10:56<mtn>blob: you would want to stop gdm from starting. should be easy to look up. hint: google
10:56<joseph-soares>my external monitor is recognized sometimes only. it's a samsung 20". I have used 1600 x 900 but not it's not recognized anymore after a timeout lock screen. Any idea please?
10:57<joseph-soares>now it is under 1024 768
10:57<blob>mtn havnt found a lot on it when i did or at least for debian anyway many things for ubuntu and some other flavores
10:57<blob>but anyway thanks a lot guys ill see if i can find anything else have a good day guys
10:57<mtn>blob: should be able to find lots about debian. include debian in your search: debian don't start gdm
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10:58<blob>mtn ill take some more looks.
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10:58<Eco>blob: Open a shell in gnome, the most powerful way.
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11:18<ripero>the last point release of debian is 7.3, but the last live cd's are 7.2 and 3 months old... when should we expect 7.3 live cd's?
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11:26<pakua>hoña
11:27<pakua>hola que tal sala?
11:28<jordanm>!es
11:28<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
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11:45<unk>irc://irc.undernet.org/bookz
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11:57<petn-randall>ripero: Check the Debian website, there are 7.3 CDs there ...
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11:58<petn-randall>ripero: You can still use your 7.2 images to install. When you update the system it's just the same than if you install with 7.3 and update.
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12:04<Myzhal>Hello
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12:06<Myzhal>I have a question about debootstrap : is it possible to perform a "debootstrap --foreign --arch amd64 squeeze sdebian" on a 32 bits installation ?
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12:17<Myzhal>anybody ?
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12:21<sney>Myzhal: you can do --foreign debootstraps from pretty much anything to anything else, but you do need to boot it natively and do the --second-stage afterwards
12:21<Myzhal>yeah, that's the point
12:21<sney>well, then yeah. that's what --foreign is for
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12:21<sney>I've done it from x86 to arm
12:21<Myzhal>sney : what you mean is that it'll pack for a 64 bits install, as long as I perform the second stage on a 64 bits system
12:22<sney>essentially
12:22<Myzhal>great
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12:22<Myzhal>thank you very much
12:22<sney>np
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12:22<Myzhal>have a nice day ppl
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13:25<ripero>petn-randall: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/
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13:56<pyBlackout>has anyone installed the pepperflashplugin package in stable?
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14:27<Guest3807>hey
14:27<Guest3807>anyone know a good programming channel
14:27<Guest3807>join /starwars
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14:34<RageRiot|>hi, I've been trying to setup a firewall on my debian dedicated server. I'm using Csf which uses iptables. during testing everything works fine. csf has a testing mode which basicly clears iptables every 5th minute. when I disabled testing mode, again everything works as expected but on reboot. I'm locked out after a few minutes of uptime. I had a look in dmesg and the last few lines look like it might explain somthing
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14:34<RageRiot|>http://forum.configserver.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=7329&p=21375#p21375
14:35<RageRiot|>I posted the last 3 lines in that thread
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14:39<trico>glitchy nic huh
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14:40<petn-randall>RageRiot|: Could you post the full output of dmesg? The last 3 lines don't say much. → http://paste.debian.net
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14:40<RageRiot|>Iok
14:40<RageRiot|>ok
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14:40<petn-randall>RageRiot|: Also, when you configured it with csf, did it run fine? Or did you have the same error messages in /var/log/kern.log?
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14:41<RageRiot|>csf config is basicly the default config but I added the ssh port because I moved it
14:41<RageRiot|>I'll check that one
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14:44<RageRiot|>how do I copy the entire log from ssh (I'm in rescue mode in /var/log 0
14:44<bonjurkes>there is a big chance that I messed up with my bash when I removed zsh, so right now I can't login to server via ssh (refuses my key) so looks like I got stuck to rescue mode. I need to apply chsh to give it a try, but direct command affects to rescue mode I guess?
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15:01<RageRiot|>petn-randall: kern.log http://paste.debian.net/76240/
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15:02<RageRiot|>and heres dmesg http://paste.debian.net/76241/
15:03<RageRiot|>so that same error is in the kern.log
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15:04<RageRiot|>if I edit the csf config to reenabled and reboot the system from disk I can get back in
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15:24<RageRiot|>I've updated my debian forum post with some logs. http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=110737
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15:25<RageRiot|>when I reboot the server after testing the firewall I'm locked out.
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15:25<RageRiot|>the logs show the eth0 is down.
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15:59<zack01>bonjour tlm... j'ai un souci de server qui crash sans arrêt.. evidemment rien dans les logs... quelqu'un peut m'aider svp ?
15:59<sney>!fr
15:59<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr.
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16:01<zack01>i have a crashing server on debian 7... nothing visible in logs... have an idea please ?
16:01<sney>crashing how?
16:01<sney>what exactly happens
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16:03<zack01>it stops responding
16:03<zack01>no ssh, no ping etc nothing & no reboot
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16:04<sney>is it a local server or remote?
16:04<zack01>sometimes keep working 12h, sometimes 5 min
16:04<zack01>remote
16:04<sney>what is the server hosting? anything that might cause it to run out of memory?
16:05<trico>eww. thats no fun. i always check memtest first for those kind of lockups
16:05<dondelelcaro>zack01: do you have a remote serial console?
16:06<zack01>i manage it by ssh
16:06<sney>does your vps provider offer any kind of lights out management? like linode has lish, etc
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16:07<zack01>hosting : online.net
16:08<zack01>only apache/php5/mysql5-5 working on it, and a few users
16:08<sney>that wasn't the question. it's if your host lets you see a console on the server that doesn't depend on the server being connected
16:08<zack01>sorry it hosts only a website
16:09<trico>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_console
16:09<valdyn>zack01: thats like saying it only runs programs
16:09<valdyn>zack01: we already knew that
16:09<sney>zack01, how are you able to reboot it remotely
16:10<zack01>i use putty > cmd : reboot
16:10<zack01>or i have a web console
16:10<zack01>with acpi management
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16:11<zack01>but can't use putty when crashed
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16:11<zack01>need to use acpi to get connected
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16:11<sney>does the web console show any output from the server?
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16:12<zack01>ping, ssh & http status
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16:12<sney>it's ssh? not some kind of local console?
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16:13<zack01>ssh yep
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16:14<sney>well, anyway: set up a cron job to add a timestamp to a file every 10 minutes or so. wait for the server to "crash" again. wait the 10 minutes, reboot the server, and check the file to see if it kept updating after the "crash."
16:14<sney>you will then know if it actually crashed, or just fell off the network.
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16:15<RageRiot|>anyone using csf firewall with debain 7.2
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16:15<RageRiot|>I'm locked out at reboot but testing was fine.
16:15<trico>every one minute even better
16:15<sney>yeah, I guess it wouldn't take up much space
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16:18<valdyn>!cpanel
16:18<dpkg>cPanel is a proprietary web hosting control panel. Ask me about <free whcp> for alternatives.
16:19<sney>ECONTEXT
16:19<valdyn>sney: that csf firewall seems to run on cpanel
16:20<sney>ah
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16:20<RageRiot|>it does but I'm using webmin
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16:26<blast007>RageRiot|: csf provides a support forum
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16:29<RageRiot|>I've posted a thread there.
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16:29<RageRiot|>http://forum.configserver.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=7329
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16:42<quorum>buenas
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16:43<quorum>tengon un problema con el teclado inalambrico por bluetooth
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16:43<rego>hi
16:43<quorum>debian lo detecta pero me cambia las teclas
16:43<quorum>como puedo configurarlo?
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16:44<quorum>es decir, cuando pulso la tecla - me sale la tecla /
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16:44<rego>how are y
16:45<quorum>sabeis como puedo solucionarlo?
16:45<devil>!es
16:45<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
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16:46<quorum>ok muchas gracias
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16:46<devil>yw
16:46<devil>or, de nada
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16:51<Guest3815>check out WWW.SWMUD.COM STAR WARS MUD!!!!!!
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17:07<fredf>hello, I just installed wheezy on an old laptop, and X doesn't redraw the screen too well, i.e. when scrolling in iceweasel.. any ideas?
17:07<trico>how old? what kind of video card does it have?
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17:12<fredf>medion md40100 probably around 8 years
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17:14<fredf>01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV34GLM [GeForce FX Go 5300] (rev a1)
17:14<devil>fredf: what driver are you using?
17:15<nevyn>fredf: is that the only controller?
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17:15<fredf>not sure, just installed a very minimal wheezy and then gdm3, running with openbox right now.
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17:16<nevyn>fredf: lsusb|grep VGA is there anything other than the nvidia?
17:16<devil>fredf: /var/log/Xorg.0.log will tell
17:16<fredf>thats the only vga device listed
17:16<nevyn>cool
17:16<nevyn>pastebin the Xorg.0.log paste.debian.net
17:18<fredf>http://paste.debian.net/76283/
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17:21<nevyn>so that seems... reasonable.
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17:21<nevyn>it's using nouveau
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17:21<fredf>its funny, if I resize the window below a certain vertical or horizontal size it scrolls just fine, just when it gets bigger it leaves white gaps in the displayed scrolling
17:21<fredf>area
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17:36<CrashOverflow>Hi guys
17:37<nevyn>fredf: what size... nevermind I'll look
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17:39<nevyn>That's not a big display 1024x768 (about normal for the time.
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17:47<rostam>HI I have a system with two network interface. I am getting myself familiar with puppet to change some of the system configuration. if I want to use puppet to change IP address of one of the interfaces (staticly). Any idea how to do this? thx
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18:01<dpkg>Puppet is an open source configuration management tool for automating system administration tasks. http://docs.puppetlabs.com/ http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet #puppet on irc.freenode.net.
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18:03<babilen>rostam: You might also want to look into saltstack and ansible in lieu of puppet.
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18:03<babilen>(salt++)
18:04<zack91>re. i have now a new log about my servers crashes
18:04<zack91>rsyslogd-2177: imuxsock begins to drop messages from pid 2906 due to rate-limiting
18:04<zack91>any idea please ?
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18:05<zack91>is this an attack ?
18:05<frohike>i dont thin so
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18:05<zack91>can it be misconfigured & multiple ajax requests ?
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18:06<zack91>i get a timeout on ssh
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18:10<rjsalts>checkrestart from debian-goodies is constantly complaining about /[aio] being deleted in processes that use it (e.g. mysql 5.5, virtualbox ). Is there any workaround for this?
18:11<rostam>babilen, I am looking for something light to apply the configurations locally. Thx
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18:14<rjsalts>rostam: ansible is much lighter than puppet
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18:16<rjsalts>rostam: it does all its control via ssh, so there is no need to set up daemons or any of the other messing around you have with puppet
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18:16<nahtiq>Can you install dropbox on Debian?
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18:17<velvetunder>Hello, how can I automount a device whenever I plug it in? Not at boot time
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18:17<rjsalts>nahtiq: https://www.dropbox.com/install?os=lnx might provide some insight
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18:18<nahtiq>@rjsalts Thanks!
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18:23<rostam>rjsalts, thank you for your help. Just one more thing. The configuration will be done locally. On the same machine that ansible will be installed. Is this possible with ansible? thx
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18:27<rjsalts>rostam: yes, it can do things locally as well as via ssh
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18:27<rostam>rjsalts, thanks so much, I go do googling now.
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19:08<Hello71>$ gcc -march=native -x c /dev/null
19:08<Hello71>cc1: error: bad value (native) for -march switch
19:08<Hello71>$ gcc --version
19:08<Hello71>gcc (Debian 4.6.3-1) 4.6.3
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19:08<abrotman>Hello71: #debian-arm
19:08<Hello71>aww.
19:08<Hello71>nobody's there ;)
19:09<abrotman>You can try here, you might have better luck
19:09<Hello71>4 lines is a pretty harsh flood limit...
19:09<Hello71>http://paste.debian.net/76298/
19:12<MrFrood>four lines in less than a second
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19:18<abrotman>Hello71: what if you give it a specific value?
19:18<Hello71>I thought I said -march=armv5te works
19:19<Hello71>I don't know anything about what arm cpu names mean
19:19<Hello71>but it's only off by one character, so...
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19:20<abrotman>Hello71: it says if it can't figure out your arch, it will not work, doesn't it?
19:20<Hello71>in my experience, it just guesses
19:21<Hello71>I think probably it is just not implemented.
19:21<Hello71>gcc-4.7 seems to have it though
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19:23<Hello71>so I guess I'll just petition the server owner to upgrade gcc.
19:24<abrotman>is it wheezy?
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19:24<abrotman>seems so
19:25<abrotman>but seems out of date
19:25<Hello71>how can I check when apt-get update was last run?
19:26<Hello71>or more generally when the package lists were updated
19:26<abrotman>/var/log/dpkg.log is a decent start
19:27<Hello71>heh. my solution: stat /var/lib/dpkg
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19:27<Hello71>/var/log/dpkg.log is empty.
19:27<Hello71>Modify: 2013-12-24 10:15:20.000000000 +0000
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19:30<abrotman>probably backed up
19:31<Hello71>I mean /var/lib/dpkg was modified then.
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19:34<themill>gcc in wheezy has different versions on different archs; on arm it's 4,6 on i386/amd64 it's 4.7. The gcc-4.7 package still exists though
19:35<Hello71>huh.
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19:36<Mongo44>I can't listen to Stitcher on iceweasel.
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19:37<Mongo44>I installed the flash plugin.
19:37<themill>Hello71: That's only /usr/bin/gcc -- /usr/bin/gcc-4.7 is gcc 4.7 on all archs. The reason it's not the default compiler is that the gcc maintainer didn't get approval from the people who look after that arch to change it prior to release (either because they didn't reply or because they know it wasn't ready to be the default compiler on that arch and said so)
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19:40<Mongo44>Anyone know what the problem could be?
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19:46<Mongo44>Soundcloud doesn't work either, so I assume no sound files will play.
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19:54<Jarth>damn, did not known shell scripts were banned
19:54<Jarth>ouch
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19:58<Mongo44>How do I play sound files in iceweasel browser?
19:58<musca>unmute your mixer
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20:01<kcir>hello im in need of assitance if anybody is available
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20:06<kcir>them birds
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20:15<enand>kcir: what problem are you having?
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20:17<kcir>:)
20:17<Hello71>what's with the +l?
20:18<kcir>whell i just installed debian 7 had 6 befor and now when i setup multiple screen i get all the menu bar merged in one screen instead of having it on seprate screens
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20:26<kcir>enand: you still there ?
20:26<enand>kcir: what desktop environment are you using?
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20:27<kcir>enand: im using gnome 3 .. used to work perfecly on gnome 2 tho
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20:30<enand>kcir: I'm not very familiar with GNOME3, but generally for most DEs, under their respective settings managers, there's a window called 'Display' or similar, and shows different options for multiple monitor setups.
20:30<enand>kcir: however, I'd recommend asking the people in the official GNOME channel.
20:30<enand>https://wiki.gnome.org/action/show/GettingInTouch/IRC?action=show&redirect=GnomeIrcChannels
20:31<kcir>ok thank you for your time ill bring my issue to gnome :)
20:32<enand>good luck, and if you have any more questions, don't hesitate to ask.
20:32<kcir>will do
20:32<kcir>untill then take care
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21:08<chopper>I was going to download me a copy of debian 7,3 and the image i was going to download is the boot.img.gz for the memstick is that all i need to get to install debain wheezy
21:09<abrotman>punctuation fail ..
21:09<abrotman>dpkg: tell chopper about netinst
21:09<chopper>abrotman so what i downloaded wasnt the right thing i need something more ok thank
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21:12<chopper>i didnt see a sha or md5 on some of the net install's would they be listed on another page or would you even really need tham for the net install
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21:14<abrotman>it's in the same directory
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22:28<averytho_>When I run the command gmake
22:28<averytho_>gmake: command not found
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22:28<averytho_>do I need a certain apt-get?
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22:34<abrotman>averytho_: did you try just 'make' ?
22:34<averytho_>yes that was fine
22:34<averytho_>now it says I have to do gmake
22:34<abrotman>what says?
22:34<averytho_>*** All done, now (g)make install to install
22:35<abrotman>so use make
22:35<averytho_>fuck i'm stupid
22:35<abrotman>the 'g' is optional there
22:35<averytho_>make install
22:35<averytho_>xD
22:35<averytho_>that G confused me .-.
22:35<abrotman>glad we coulld help?
22:35<averytho_>thanks :D
22:35*dvs would "pal" him!
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22:38<abrotman>!pal averytho_
22:38*dpkg points at averytho_ and laughs
22:38<averytho_>:3
22:38<abrotman>heh
22:38<averytho_>It's always the simple stuff...
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22:39<abrotman>parenthesis are scary
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