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#debian IRC Logs for 2014-01-15

---Logopened Wed Jan 15 00:00:11 2014
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00:16<rjsalts>is there a better solution to starting up multiple mysql instances than mysqld_multi?
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00:41<hatducks>i have a question, if anyone can help :]
00:42<hatducks>i'm getting this error that tells me my wired netqork is unmanaged
00:42<hatducks>i'
00:42<hatducks>i'm not sure what that means..
00:43<jm_>what is configuring it?
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00:43<hatducks>no idea, tbh
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00:44<hatducks>noob here
00:44<hatducks>trying to learn how to fix these things on my own, but i don't have any idea what i'm doing yet
00:45<jm_>try this https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration
00:46<jm_>or better yet, this https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkManager
00:46<jm_>it mentions unmanaged directly
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00:50<stillonwindows>Hello, I'm trying to install LMDE (15 I think) from CD, and my mouse moves, but won't click, for instance I'm trying to click on partitions in GParted, nada, I've also tried another mouse, ideas?
00:50<jm_>!lmde
00:50<dpkg>Linux Mint is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Please use their forums at http://forums.linuxmint.com/ or join #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org for support. Linux Mint is variously based on <Ubuntu> with a "Linux Mint Debian Edition" (LMDE) also available, based on <testing>. See also <based on debian>, <mintppc>.
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00:52<stillonwindows>cheers
00:59<hatducks>jm_ thanks for the links, but i'm still new enough that this doesn't really make sense to me.. :\
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01:00<jm_>hatducks: I doubt anyone can explain it in much simpler terms (especially the second page)
01:01<hatducks>ok, thx anyway
01:01<jm_>but it should be doable for you even if you are not familiar with what it does, just follow the steps
01:02<hatducks>i followed the steps, but it didn't seem to have any effect
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01:03<jm_>you set managed to true?
01:04<hatducks>yes
01:05<jm_>and restarted it?
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01:05<hatducks>yes, i restarted it
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01:06<jm_>does it still say it's not managed?
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01:07<hatducks>ah, wait, apparently i didn't restart it correctly
01:07<hatducks>some sort of error message was returned
01:07<hatducks>command not found
01:07<jm_>what did you run?
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01:08<hatducks>/etc/init.d/network-manager restart
01:08<hatducks>augh
01:08<hatducks>typo
01:08<hatducks>i just entered that wrong
01:08<hatducks>network manager restarted :]
01:09<hatducks>cool, this se4ems to have fixed it, ty jm_ :]
01:09<jm_>no worries
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05:11<neo1691>Need some help with apt-cacher-ng. I have mounted my iso and want apt-cacher-ng to import packages from the iso. Can anyone please guideme
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05:19<txt-file>I am searching for a program or script. I have a list of server and want to know which is the one with the fewest hops.
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05:20<SynrG>write it yourself. iterate over all sites, traceroute them all outputting to a file, wc -l all files, sort -n the output
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05:21<SynrG>(output to a file *per site*, i mean)
05:22<txt-file>i thought i have seen a ready to use program a few years ago
05:22<SynrG>why bother? it will take less time to write the script than to search for one.
05:23<txt-file>you are probably right
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05:24<SynrG>off the top of my head ...
05:24<SynrG>for s in $(cat sites) ; do traceroute > "${s}.log" ; done ; wc -l *.log | sort -rn
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05:24<SynrG>there are probably errors in that :)
05:25<neo1691>Somebody please help me with apt-cacher-ng
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05:25<SynrG>neo1691: i've never done it but i guess you want to construct deb lines to the cd using file:/// URIs
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05:26<SynrG>i don't know apt-cacher-ng and i've never used a CD as an apt source.
05:26<SynrG>however, after an install, i've seen lines that have been written to sources.list by the installer
05:26<SynrG>they take the form i just described
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05:27<SynrG>https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList
05:28<SynrG>neo1691: ^^ see the part about apt-cdrom, too.
05:28<SynrG>you can just move the lines generated for sources.list into your apt-cacher-ng config
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05:28<SynrG>(I assume :)
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05:32<neo1691>SynrG, I have got that right,did that before on my laptop.
05:33<neo1691>Where is apt-cacher-ng config. I have got is a _import folder. Where I have created a symlink to the pool directory from the mounted iso
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05:35<Rene>Hello! Is anyone willing to help me with a little nagios problem I have? It's for a school project and personal interest.
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05:45<SynrG>neo1691: read the doc?
05:45<SynrG>neo1691: as i said, i've never used it before
05:45<SynrG>Rene: don't ask to ask. just ask ...
05:45<SynrG>Rene: also, is this on debian?
05:46<Rene>Sorry, I'm kind of new to IRC.
05:46<Rene>yes
05:46<Rene>Debian 7
05:46<SynrG>then you've come to the right place :)
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05:47<Rene>So I have Nagios setup. I see the hosts are up. But I get the error in the webinterface invalid password. When I run the check_nt from the commandline there is no problem. I got several errors before like 'missing -l parameter' and 'connection refused'. I think there is a problem in the commands.cfg or the nt.cfg.
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05:47<Rene>windows hosts btw.
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05:52<SynrG>ah, hmm. not a nagios guru, but if you lurk here for some time until someone with experience chimes in ...
05:53<SynrG>did you install nagios from debian packages?
05:53<Rene>Thanks.
05:53<SynrG>,nagios
05:53<SynrG>,v nagios
05:53<judd>No package named 'nagios' was found in i386.
05:53<SynrG>sec
05:54<Rene>Yes like apt-install get nagios*
05:54<SynrG>,v nagios3
05:54<judd>Package: nagios3 on i386 -- squeeze: 3.2.1-2+squeeze1; squeeze-security: 3.2.1-2+squeeze1; squeeze-backports: 3.2.3-3~bpo60+1; wheezy: 3.4.1-3+deb7u1; wheezy-backports: 3.4.1-5~bpo7+1; jessie: 3.5.1-1; sid: 3.5.1-1
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05:55<Rene>Gotta go for 20 minutes. See you in a bit.
05:55*SynrG nods
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06:06<Jarth>a spanking new Flash vulnerability impacting all versions on all platforms, darned.
06:06<Jarth>http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/58396
06:09<Jarth>time to
06:09<Jarth>update-flashplugin-nonfree --install
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06:13<darkskiez>Jarth: thanks! crikey.
06:18<darkskiez>Jarth: Published: Mar 08 2013 12:00AM ?? is it a new one
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06:22<Rene>Back
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06:30<ompaul>Jarth: tyhanks
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06:44<Jarth>@darkskiez: nope it is an old one which goes deeper than anticipated
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06:58<docente>after half hour that eth receives at 100Mbit full speed, i get this error: http://pastebin.com/TGMe2Bad and the eth0 don't work anymore. ideas?
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06:59<jm_>try a newer kernel or discuss it with author(s) of this driver (I remember having issues with via-rhine years ago when it was more common)
07:04<docente>today is old...
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07:04<docente>i can open a bug?
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07:05<jm_>well that's an option too I suppose
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07:11<tjader>Hello, I having two problems with GDM on wheezy
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07:12<tjader>The first one is that it is not showing remote users who have logged recently in the user list.
07:12<tjader>The second one is that it is not remembering my session choice.
07:13-!-mode/#debian [+l 640] by debhelper
07:13<tjader>I have a hunch about this second one, though. My home is in an NFS mount, and root can't write to it. Does anyone know if GDM writes .dmrc as root or the logging user?
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07:20<Jarth>@docente did you apply any sysctl tweaks ?
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07:21<Jarth>@docente this is on wheezy ?
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07:50<dominic`>I've just upgraded to Wheezy. It appears that the current Radeon driver requires non-free firmware for KMS. I can get the X server, wm, etc. working if I disable KMS, but then I cannot access my ttys. Is there a solution to this problem that does not reqy
07:50<dominic`>require installing non-free firmware?
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07:52<dominic`>Video card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS880M [Mobility Radeon HD 4200 Series]
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07:54<shantham>how to join facebook server
07:54<Jarth>uncomment the GRUB_TERMINAL=console line in /etc/default/grub ?
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07:55<chrishell>how can I see why a certain package is installed? which depends on a certain package?
07:55<jm_>chrishell: aptitude why pkg
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07:56<dominic`>@Jarth Thanks I'll try that. What should that do?
07:57<jm_>you need to rebuild grub.cfg after editing /etc/default/grub (man update-grub)
07:57<chrishell>thanks jm_ is there a solution with apt-cache as well?
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07:59<jm_>chrishell: maybe apt-cache depends/rdepends can help, or even dotty
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08:00<chrishell>jm_: I allready tryed apt-cache depends, this is for which packages "certain package needs", ... rdepends maybe
08:02<chrishell>wow dozzends of package, maybe up till glibc? :)
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08:03<chrishell>no glibc is not mentioned
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08:10<chrishell>apt-rdepends is also a possibility
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08:14<chrishell>or debtree
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08:15<hudo>hello, I have wheezy installed, and in the gnome-terminal i have to press space after the ~ although i got the german(no-deadkeys)
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08:49<Tulsene>hello
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08:50<anthony>I can't play sound with my browser.
08:51<Tulsene>and u can play some sound with other soft (like a video soft)
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08:52<anthony>Yes it looks like youtube doesn't work either. I did get flash. I am using Iceweasel.
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08:58<Mongo44>Tulsene, you got any ideas?
08:58<Tulsene>sry
08:59<Tulsene>phone call
08:59<Tulsene>have u reboot? (stupid & simple idea but she resolve a lot of thing)
09:02<Mongo44>I have since yesterday.
09:03<Charles_Fr>is it hard to instal the nvidia proprietary drivers for my gtx660 ?
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09:04<Mongo44>What about Debian is better than Ubuntu?
09:06<Deeps>Mongo44: 'better' is subjective. Debian has different goals than Ubuntu.
09:06<zumbi>Mongo44: it depends on your purpose and expectatives
09:07<zumbi>Mongo44: do you like microsoft way (all done) or unix way (find it out by yourself)
09:08<Mongo44>I suppose I like Linux.
09:08<snogglethorpe>Mongo44: debian tends to be less buggy than ubuntu in my experience
09:08<zumbi>that's a kernel :P
09:08<Mongo44>What about Debian makes it good for use on the ISS.
09:09<lostatwork>it's stable
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09:09<zumbi>with long release cycles
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09:10<Jarth>@dominic: stop you from booting into a blank screen i figure
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09:18<Jarth>For many years i wonder what makes Debian packages so different, other distro's also hold on to old versions of software but the Debian maintainers do something with it that makes them better apparently. I suspect secret sauce.
09:19<Mongo44>So does anyone know why my Iceweasel won't play sound or video?
09:19<Deeps>Debian maintainers backport security fixes that come in newer software relases, to the older software release, reducing security issues while also attmepting to reduce the risk of new bug introductions
09:19<snogglethorpe>mayo?
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09:20<Deeps>Mongo44: sorry pal, I only really use debian on headless servers so I'm not much help in this area
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09:20<Mongo44>Do I have to install the security updates manually?
09:20<Deeps>no, it's included in regular updates from the default repos
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09:23<Tulsene>sry mongo, I had to move for work
09:23<Tulsene>u only have iceweasel on ur computer
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09:23<Tulsene>?
09:24<Tulsene>and ur flash is updated?
09:24<Mongo44>Yes got it just yesterday.
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09:25<Jarth> @Mongo44 only in iceweasel ?
09:25<Tulsene>with official flash or opensource flash?
09:25<Jarth>it can be a mixer setting
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09:26<Mongo44>Well I got to get to class hopefully I can deal with this after.
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09:31<user8715>Hello all, I have some php proccess with high CPU use in my server. I want to discover the command arguments who are running. How can I do this?
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09:31<user8715>I need to discover the commands PHP is using and causing this high CPU use
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09:32<blast007>user8715: perhaps this? ps aux | grep php
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09:34<user8715>blast007 I tryed it, but can I have more details about the proccess?
09:34<blast007>like what?
09:34<user8715>blast007: With this command I have onl the file name, but is probabily a framework, and all calls use index.php
09:35<blast007>is it a CGI/fastCGI setup with a web server?
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09:35<user8715>blast007: no
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09:36<blast007>well we can't read your mind.. what kind of setup is this?
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09:37<user8715>blast007: ops, sorry! It's a default php installation with Apache
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09:38<user8715>blast007: with mod_php
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09:41<rod>и всё таки почему не работает видео в skype
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09:42<Tulsene>someone of u know hw to configure apache virtualhost for a server where running http and https websites?
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09:43<Jarth>@Tulsene: yes but what are you trying to do ?
09:44<Tulsene>I have to configure my website
09:44<Tulsene>www.petitnomad.org
09:45<Tulsene>in https mode but my forum (powered with jforum) or the access to mongo admin is in http
09:45<Tulsene>and when I try to configure my virtualHost I had many bug
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10:27<frangor>hola
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10:32<user8715>blast007: eh.. they are phpm proccess ... :(
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10:34<TobiX>user8715: phpm? Sounds suspicious
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10:35<TobiX>user8715: Are the running as www-data?
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10:38<TobiX>user8715: Could you post the output of "sudo lsof -n -c php" (if you have php) on paste.debian.net (if the output is clean of secret stuff)
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11:09<cristiancv100>hello please, somebody using postfix and dovecot with ldap backend?
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11:27<Mongo44>I am back I still can't run video or sound in Iceweasel.
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11:30<mintgreen>i installed both 'browser-plugin-gnash'and 'browser-plugin-lightspark' and yet i can't get videos working in iceweasle.what's wrong?
11:32<MrFrood>mintgreen: http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/gecko-mediaplayer
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11:34<cristiancv100>mintgreen try to install apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
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11:35<cristiancv100>please somebody help me, im trying to set a mail server with postfix 2.9,dovecot 2.1.7 and slapd 2.4.31, im receiving this error: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual mailbox table
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11:37<cristiancv100>this are my settings doveconf 15ene http://paste.debian.net/76409/ and postconf 15ene http://paste.debian.net/76411/
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11:41<Mongo44>Debian doesn't support tar.gz right?
11:43<MrFrood>Mongo44: what are you trying to do with the tar.gz?
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11:44<Mongo44>I am trying to play video and sound on Iceweasel.
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11:46<MrFrood>Then why are you messing with a tar.gz file? Install gecko-mediaplayer and flashplugin-nonfree
11:46<Jarth>@mintgreen: i stopped using both and switched back to flash-player, have a look at http://helpdesk.oxitech.info/doku.php?id=playing_flash_on_linux in the section on the /etc/adobe/mms.cfg
11:46<MrFrood>Mongo44: http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/flashplugin-nonfree & http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/gecko-mediaplayer
11:46<Jarth>@Mongo44 ... that would be a shock!
11:48<Jarth>@Mongo44 use the below command and let us known if you have any audio output
11:48<Jarth>dmesg | grep -i sound
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11:50<Mongo44>Nope that command did not work.
11:50<linuxator>MrFrood, is this working for you?
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11:54<Jarth>@Mongo44 why did the command not work ? That's a default linux command, what on earth or you doing ? Ah .. you must run that command as root user ( sudo su - )
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11:57<Mongo44>I preceed dmesg | grep -i sound with sudo su -?
11:58<CyberBob>this is getting a little ridiculous
11:59<CyberBob>most web results i've gotten about completely removing mysql-client and mysql-server and all associated dbases and configs involve purging lots more than i want to
11:59<KaaK_>Any sbuild users in here? I've got an issue with it automatically signing my changes file after a successful build. It errors with with 'debsign: Can't find or can't read changes file'
11:59<CyberBob>is there a simple way to reinitialize mysql completely?
12:00<Jarth>dpkg-reconfigure -plow mysql-server
12:00<KaaK_>but the changes file is clearly there ...
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12:01<CyberBob>Jarth i just tried that, purging mysql-server afterwards (it was still there), and reinstalling, and it did not ask me for a new root password
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12:02<Jarth>@CyberBob you must be doing something wrong
12:02<Jarth>:D
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12:03<CyberBob>Jarth just trying to be a genius and understand where the heck the simplicity is in this problem
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12:04<Jarth>ah, well, my experience is in almost all cases the problem is with the user
12:04<Jarth>including me, just to be clear
12:04<Mongo44>Jarth, what should the output of dmesg | grep -i sound be?
12:04<Jarth>i have the impression this is related to an upgrade or mixing apt repositories of debian
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12:05<CyberBob>neither
12:05<CyberBob>accidentally cleaned out mysql.user
12:05<Jarth>this is mine
12:05<Jarth>[ 2.120608] input: HDA Intel Mic as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1b.0/sound/card0/input8
12:05<Jarth>[ 2.120778] input: HDA Intel Headphone as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1b.0/sound/card0/input
12:05<Jarth>you did not have a backup of some sort ?
12:06<CyberBob>not yet
12:06<CyberBob>configuring it from the ground up
12:06<linuxator> i installed both 'browser-plugin-gnash'and 'browser-plugin-lightspark' and yet i can't get videos working in iceweasle.what's wrong?
12:06<CyberBob>still in progress
12:07<Mongo44>dmesg | grep -i sound is not giving any output. I tried dmesg | grep -i memory that works.
12:08<Jarth>okay, that's good
12:08<Jarth>i think your modules for audio are not loading
12:08<Jarth>lsmod | grep -i snd
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12:08<Jarth>@CyberBob i'm not sure if i understand what you mean with mysql.user , you mean the table ?
12:09<CyberBob>yes
12:09<CyberBob>i deleted all rows in it
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12:09<Jarth>OUCH
12:09<CyberBob>and i know i have to do a clean reinstall of it to get it to cache the four or five default entries that have to be in there
12:10<Jarth>ah, now i understand.
12:10<CyberBob>i'm also following a howto that would get insanely complex or i would have to start over if i just did a regex mysql removal
12:10<Jarth>@CyberBob I'd download the package instead of installing it, normally then i use mc to open the package and browse it's contents, most likely there's a sql script to recreate the table
12:11<CyberBob>problem is that's getting beyond my current knowledge
12:11<CyberBob>oh well
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12:12<Jarth>@CyberBob no worries then, everyone learns
12:12<CyberBob>i'll keep looking. thanks for the tip i might try it. but i also wiped the dbases themselves and a reinstall doesn't even repopulate that
12:12<Jarth>aptitude install mc and your worries are over :-)
12:12<CyberBob>it's just such a backwards process mysql
12:12<Jarth>ah, but wait, different issue then
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12:13<Jarth>I'm afraid your mixing things up
12:13<CyberBob>i was in the client, i deleted all rows in mysql.user
12:13<CyberBob>tried reinstalling, that didn't bring them back
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12:14<CyberBob>tried deleting /var/lib/mysql, reinstall didn't bring that back either
12:15<Jarth>CyberBob I assume you also manually deleted some of the files in /var/lib/mysql ?
12:15<Jarth>there you go
12:15<CyberBob>/var/lib/mysql isn't just mysql's dbase folder?
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12:16<Jarth>yep, you're right that's the folder where ALL mysql data resides
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12:16<Jarth>remove that and all mysql should be gone, BUT
12:16<Jarth>that might mess up the uninstall script
12:17<Jarth>aptitude search mysql | grep ^i
12:18<CyberBob>hmm
12:18<CyberBob>this looks promising Jarth
12:18<CyberBob>i was only removing the metapackage
12:18<Jarth>yep
12:19<Jarth>dependencies are exactly what they say, not only to install
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12:24<Jarth>metapackage, i would not have thought of the name myself
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12:25<CyberBob>Jarth worked great
12:25<CyberBob>tis fixored
12:25<CyberBob>tyvm
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12:26<Jarth>no problem, glad to help
12:27<Mongo44>How come the /connect command doesn't work but it works in Ubuntu to connect to a server?
12:27<Jarth>becoz you're already connected to an IRC session ?
12:28<Mongo44>Nope, I wasn't connected to Freenode.
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12:30<Mongo44>I still haven't been able to view videos and hear sound with Iceweasel. I need to get some of my homework done though. Is Smuxi the best graphical client?
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12:31<petn-randall>Mongo44: Maybe lets solve one problem at a time?
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12:31<petn-randall>Mongo44: /connect in which IRC client? What did you exactly type, what did you expect, what happened?
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12:32<petn-randall>Mongo44: Did it print any error messages?
12:32<Jarth>@Mongo44 the SOUND modules are NOT loading, did you install them ?
12:33<Mongo44>Parameter name: protocol
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12:34<Mongo44>That is what I got when I entered /connect irc.freenode.net
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12:34<Jarth>@Mongo44 type the command below, it should tell you what soundcard you have
12:34<Jarth>lspci | grep -i audio
12:35<Mongo44>Jarth, sound does work just not in the browser.
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12:35<Jarth>ah, not in any browser ?
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12:35<Jarth>otherwise, if time is of the essence, install chromium and see if that one works
12:35<Mongo44>I have Iceweasel.
12:36<MrFrood>Mongo44: have you installed gecko-mediaplayer & flashplugin-nonfree ?
12:36<Mongo44>I could only find a tar.gz for those files.
12:37<MrFrood>wtf
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12:37<MrFrood>Mongo44: you are using debian?
12:37<Mongo44>Of course.
12:38<Jarth>@Mongo44 at times you say stuff which is a bit awkward to understand
12:38<Jarth>you're watching porn are you not ? :-D
12:38<Mongo44>Jarth, what are you talking about?
12:39<Mongo44>Do you know me from ubuntu-offtopic@Freenode?
12:39<MrFrood>Mongo44: can you paste the error message that 'aptitude install gecko-mediaplayer flashplugin-nonfree' to https://paste.debian.net/
12:40<Jarth>nope, why else would the sound not work and vague information be disclosed uh :D
12:40<petn-randall>Mongo44: You only answered 1 of 5 of my questions ...
12:41<Mongo44>Does Debian support pastebinit?
12:42<MrFrood>!paste
12:42<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>.
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12:42<MrFrood>er.. I intended to do
12:42<MrFrood>!pastebinit
12:42<dpkg>pastebinit is a command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>. NOTE: Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" users, you must "pastebinit -b http://paste.debian.net" or configure pastebinit to use something other than pastebin.com. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | pastebinit". See also <pastebinit config>, <nopaste>.
12:42<MrFrood>Mongo44: ^^^
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12:48<spiripillo>Buona serata a tutti sto provando irc con xchat qualcuno mi dica se mi legge per favore
12:48<Mongo44>petn-randall, I am using Smuxi.
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12:50<Maulkin>!it
12:50<dpkg>Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help.
12:50<Mongo44>I need to install gecko and flash plugin nonfree right?
12:50<spiripillo>Grazie
12:51<RageRiot|>is the a cmdline switch for linux ping to return timeouts instead of only updating the terminal when a response is received ?
12:51<RageRiot|>like windows pings.
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12:52<Maulkin>RageRiot|: `man ping` will have any options available. Not quite sure what you mean by return timeouts.
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12:53<MrFrood>Mongo44: there is no reason why you should not be able to install gecko-mediaplayer, and as long as you have contrib enabled in your sources list no reason why you should not be able to install flashplugin-nonfree. IF apt or aptitude are giving you error message when you try to install these please paste the output to a pastebin otherwise I'll just assume you are trolling
12:53<RageRiot|>well the default behaviour for windows ping is to return "request timeout"
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12:54<RageRiot|>but on linux it stops updatin the term until a ping is replied to. scrolling through a ping list it's a bit hard to determine if there were drop out.
12:54<RageRiot|>I'll check man pages again
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12:55<Mongo44>gecko-mediaplayer installed just fine. Here is output of flashplugin-nonfree: http://paste.debian.net/76445/
12:55<Maulkin>RageRiot|: ping -t (something) ?
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12:56<Maulkin>RageRiot|: or -O ?
12:57<RageRiot|>thats more like it
12:57<Maulkin>RageRiot|: Or -DO ?
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12:57<MrFrood>Mongo44: can you paste your sources list?
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12:59<MrFrood>Mongo44: you should have a message from dpkg
13:00<Mongo44>http://paste.debian.net/76447/
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13:01<Mongo44>What is the difference between apt-get install and aptitude install? Also how do I copy paste from the terminal?
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13:02<MrFrood>Mongo44: you need to add contrib - see the message from dpkg for how to
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13:02<Mongo44>Damn, I forgot how to use vi.
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13:03<LKP>hello
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13:04<LKP>:P
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13:08<Mongo44>How do I exit vi without saving?
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13:15<uw>hi when fetching repos i get the message: Cannot initiate the connection to ftp.se.debian.org:80 (2001:6b0:e:2018::163). - connect (101: Network is unreachable) [IP: 2001:6b0:e:2018::163 80]
13:15<uw>i'm on ipv4 network and dont have ipv6 connection
13:15<uw>anyone know how to get this to work?
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13:21<SynrG>uw: whether or not you have working ipv6 connection, your dns is returning ipv6 and ipv4, and your system is not set to prefer ipv4
13:22<SynrG>see if any of this helps:
13:22<SynrG>https://wiki.debian.org/DebianIPv6#How_to_turn_off_IPv6
13:22<Mongo44>alright I added the repository I guess now it is time to add flashplugin-nonfree
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13:24<Mongo44>I got the same error message when running aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree. What now?
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13:25<MrFrood>Mongo44: did you do aptitude update (or the apt equivelent)?
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13:25<Mongo44>I still don't know how to copy/paste into the terminal. I know on Ubuntu cntrl+alt must be pressed.
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13:26<RageRiot|>maybe your firewall is blocking it
13:26<Mongo44>Iran aptitude install.
13:26<RageRiot|>I think it's ctrl + x + v
13:26<MrFrood>Mongo44: do 'aptitude update' and the do the install
13:26<otak>ctrl-shift-c, ctrl-shift-v
13:27<MrFrood>s/the/then/
13:27<RageRiot|>ye thats it
13:27<Mongo44>MrFrood, I did just that.
13:27<uw>thanks SynrG looking it up
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13:28<MrFrood>Mongo44: if flashplugin-nonfree still will not install you made an error adding contrib to your sources
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13:29<Mongo44>How do I pastbin etc/apt/sources.list?
13:30<MrFrood>!tell Mongo44 about pastebinit
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13:31<Mongo44>Cool I was trying to dmesg |
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13:32<Mongo44>http://paste.debian.net/76454/
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13:33<Mongo44>The one I added is the first one.
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13:35<MrFrood>Mongo44: where it says "main" add "contrib" after
13:35<Mongo44>You mean without a space?
13:36<MrFrood>with a space
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13:36<Mongo44>I did.
13:36<MrFrood>It's not in the paste
13:36<Mongo44>On line 3?
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13:37<MrFrood>Mongo44: line three does not count - do it on the lines that do not begin with a hash
13:38<Mongo44>I added the hash mark myself.
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13:38<Mongo44>Do you mean I should delete the hash and put it on line 14?
13:39<MrFrood>Mongo44: lines 9 & 10 - with no hash
13:40<Mongo44>Can I cut/paste it to say line 11?
13:40<MrFrood>Mongo44: you have to add one word to two lines I'm sure you can manage to type that
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13:49<Mongo44>Is this correct?: http://paste.debian.net/76457/
13:50<Mongo44>Damn, it is still giving the error message for flashplugin-nonfree.
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13:52<Mongo44>I got to go to class soon. MrFrood, got any good ideas for the next couple minutes?
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13:53<Mongo44>MrFrood?
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13:53<wompa>Mongo44, no, line 7 should be: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib
13:53<wompa>line 9 should not be there at all
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13:54<Mongo44>Line 9 I just added.
13:55<Mongo44>Alright time to go.
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15:00<ompaul>petn-randall: BOOOOOO!
15:00*ompaul goes back to freenode ;-)
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15:03<jogarvey>is there a way to use the debian (wheezy) install DVDs as a group? I'm working with a virtual machine, and can attach 4 drives (add install DVDs), but ejecting/changing doesn't really work for me.
15:05<petn-randall>jogarvey: How doesn't it work?
15:05<petn-randall>jogarvey: You could download the blurays, but then again you only really need the netinst image to install ...
15:05<ompaul>for why are they attached ... what kind of content might be a better question
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15:06<ompaul>petn-randall: is there any value in copying the .debs into /var/cache/apt/archives?
15:06<ompaul>if they are that kind of thing
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15:07<jogarvey>petn-randal: the install doesn't detect the other drives/dvds.
15:08<jogarvey>petn-randal: and there is no network for this virtual machine.
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15:09<jogarvey>s/petn-randal/petn-randall/
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15:09<ompaul>jogarvey: that is the job of the virtual machine that you are looking at it within - so the question is which kind of virtual software are you using (howzat for a badly phrased question)
15:10<rostam>HI I have a system with two network interface, eth0 is configured with dhcp. I would like to configure eth1 with static address. After editing /etc/networking/interfaces and restarting network-manager I still do not see the interface IP address set (using ifconfig). Any help greatly appreciated. thx
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15:10<sney>network-manager has nothing to do with interfaces, in fact it ignores any interface mentioned there
15:10<sney>what you want is ifup eth1
15:11<jogarvey>ompaul: debian can see all the drives, it just fails to notice that they have useful dvds during the install.
15:11<ompaul>rostam: paste the contents of your /etc/network/interfaces file in http://paste.debian.net cos it is the best place for it
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15:14<rostam>ompaul, http://paste.debian.net/76483/ thx
15:14<ompaul>rostam: and where is your eth0 in there?
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15:14<sney>rostam: as I thought. that's fine and you need to bring up eth1 with ifup, not network-manager which ignores that file
15:14<sney>ompaul: pay attention
15:15<rostam>sney, thx
15:15<ompaul>sney: my awake is not there oh it's not here either sorry
15:15<ompaul>yeah that figures
15:16<sney>heh
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15:17<ompaul>sney: for context back scroll in -next if you are there
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15:46<techybyte>sfesef
15:46<techybyte>^TEST^
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15:50<ompaul>!test
15:50<dpkg>Test failed.
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16:40<Vikinger>hello guys
16:40<Vikinger>is it possible to visiualise images on console, i only have access to a machine thru ssh ?
16:41<Vikinger>in this case its PNG
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16:42<Nemoder>better to copy the images to your local machine and view them there
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16:43<Vikinger>still is there another way to view them on console ?
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16:44<Apollo>for all intents and purposes
16:44<Apollo>no
16:44<Vikinger>ok
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16:45<Vikinger>thats very bad
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16:45<nevyn>huh?
16:45<andyman>now I see: it's joining a channel that causes the window to resize itself
16:45<nevyn>so on the console. there is.
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16:46<andyman>oops, sorry, wrong channel
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16:49<Vikinger>what is it nevyn
16:49<Vikinger>?
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16:49<nevyn>Vikinger: but you're not on the console so it doesn't matter.
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16:52<Vikinger>nevyn : yes i am
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17:06<CyberBob>any ideas on this? i'm on a powermac g5 and right after the beginning messages have almost ended i'm getting 'out of range' and no signal on my monitor (just before the login prompt should appear)
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17:09<Nemoder>CyberBob: sounds like it didn't detect your video hardware properly. might need to make a custom xorg.conf with a lower resolution
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17:09<CyberBob>it's running with no de/wm at all
17:09<CyberBob>just cli
17:10<CyberBob>i've got ssh access but would like to be able to have console
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17:10<Nemoder>oh, then likely a framebuffer problem. should be a kernel parameter to disable it
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17:11<nevyn>you can't disable framebuffer on that hardware.
17:12<nevyn>it doesn't have any text modes.
17:12<Nemoder>he is able to see the initial kernel startup text so it must have something?
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17:13<nevyn>so it's likely the X11 init is screwing the pooch.
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17:13<CyberBob>no X11 either
17:13<nevyn>and leaving the hardware in a state where the kernel can't recover
17:13<nevyn>CyberBob: if you ssh in is there an X11 process running?
17:14<Nemoder>maybe just something like adding nomodeset to grub would fix it, but I don't know much about it
17:14<CyberBob>it would be yaboot in my situation i'll google that
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17:36<evergreenjdfiu>Bonjoir a touche
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17:38<evergreenjdfiu>c quand le prochain meeting dans l'ouest de la france?
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17:38<sney>!fr
17:38<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr.
17:38<evergreenjdfiu>microsoft commence a serieusement me gonfler
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17:40<evergreenjdfiu>je veux faire comprendre a mon service it que c plus mieux le manchot
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17:40<sney>anglais ici
17:40<evergreenjdfiu>....................mdr
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17:41<evergreenjdfiu>u speak english?.
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17:42<evergreenjdfiu>allez tous vous faire pouet pouet , personne pour repondre
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17:43<evergreenjdfiu>salut sney
17:43<ompaul>!fr
17:43<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr.
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17:44<evergreenjdfiu>bon jour oldlaptop
17:44<sney>evergreenjdfiu: Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr.
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17:46<evergreenjdfiu>ctcp fuck sney , avec tt mon rspct
17:46<sney>evergreenjdfiu: this channel is for english speakers. go to a french channel if you want people to understand you
17:46<ompaul>!ops evergreenjdfiu needs some help to leave the channel
17:46<dpkg>Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: ompaul complains about: evergreenjdfiu needs some help to leave the channel
17:47<evergreenjdfiu>ctcp sney salut
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17:48<ompaul>Ganneff: thanks
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17:55<abrotman>cute ...
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18:01<CyberBob>got it fixed with append="nomodeset" in the per-image section for "Linux" in yaboot.conf then #ybin -v
18:02<CyberBob>0000:f0:10.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200 Ultra] (rev a1) <-- output of lspci
18:02<oldlaptop>ow
18:03<CyberBob>again, this is a powermac g5 running 64 bit ppckernel
18:03<CyberBob>oldlaptop yeah good thing i'm not using a gui on it
18:04<oldlaptop>that helps :)
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18:05<CyberBob>i don't know if official logs are kept of this channel but that's why i explained what fixed it for me, in case
18:06<sney>yeah, nouveau is pretty broken even on hardware that it *does* support
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18:07<oldlaptop>and of course nvidia's blob is a horrific ugly mess
18:07<oldlaptop>whenever I've seen a machine inexplicably fail to start X, that blob has been the reason
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18:55<TobiX>oldlaptop: Nvidia's blob wouldn't work on the G5 anyways... Or did they ever provide Linux PPC drivers?
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18:57<Mongo44>http://paste.debian.net/76512/
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18:58<Mongo44>I am a beginner with vi. Does this look right?
18:59<Mongo44>I am trying to install flashplugin-nonfree
18:59<abrotman>dpkg: tell Mongo44 about wheezy sources.list
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19:01<Mongo44>http://paste.debian.net/76513/
19:01<oldlaptop>TobiX: ah, that too
19:01<themill>Mongo44: the [a|b|c] syntax is telling you to pick one of a or b or c
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19:02<Mongo44>Output of aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree
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19:03<Mongo44>themill, alright I will try vi again.
19:03<themill>you don't need to use vi -- you could use nano if you wanted a simpler editor
19:04<oldlaptop>(though you need to know vi if you plan to use non-Debian *nixes)
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19:04<Mongo44>*nixes short for Linuxes.
19:04<oldlaptop>vi is the one editor (apart from ed/ex/...) you will pretty much always have on any unix system
19:04<oldlaptop>Mongo44: Linuxes is one thing that's short for :)
19:05<oldlaptop>could say it means 'unix-like operating systems'
19:05<themill>sure, but separating the "learning to use vi" task from the "get your sources.list fixed" task is simpler
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19:05<oldlaptop>very much so
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19:07<oldlaptop>Mongo44: (GNU/)Linux is just the most visible of a whole family of UNIX descendants and work-alikes
19:07<Mongo44>I only have used Debian 7.3 and Ubuntu 12.04.
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19:08<oldlaptop>you will find vi on virtually any unixish system
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19:08<oldlaptop>nano is a much easier editor to use, don't get me wrong
19:08<oldlaptop>but you will want to learn basic vi at some point
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19:11<Mongo44>I can handle it. Esc is command mode, i is insert, ZZ quit and save.
19:12<Mongo44>Anything else I should really know?
19:12<oldlaptop>that's enough to get by with in an emergency, sure :)
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19:17<Mongo44>themill, which one do I want Wheezy right. Choices are Wheezy, Squeeze and Jessie. I am running OS 7.3.
19:18<themill>Mongo44: as dpkg told you earlier, wheezy
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19:19<Mongo44>Oh right.
19:20<oldlaptop>Debian releases are often referred to by codenames, the current convention is that the codename refers to all releases of a given major version number
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19:20<oldlaptop>7.0, 7.1, etc are (were) all 'wheezy'
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19:21<oldlaptop>the second number indicates only major security and reliability fixes
19:21<oldlaptop>squeeze refers to 6.x, jessie is not yet released but will be 8.x when it is
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19:27<Mongo44>themill I made the change still no dice.
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19:28<Mongo44>Wait a minute I didn't use aptitude update first.
19:30<Mongo44>My download speed is probably 5 kb/sec.
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19:43<Snake_Eater>Hi, has anyone experienced lockups with Debian since around the time the 3.12.1 kernel was pushed to Testing about a week ago?
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19:49<devil>3.12 works just fine
19:51*SamB doesn't expect Linux takes kernel dumps of such things by default ...
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19:53<Snake_Eater>well I don't think it's the kernel the problem because the system still hangs when I boot with 3.11 for example. I believe it started around the time I updated to 3.12 so it's probably another package; I just can't find what's causing it...
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19:55<oldlaptop>Snake_Eater: When does it hang?
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19:55<oldlaptop>I've noticed my system appearing to hang for about three seconds or so while starting KDE lately
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19:58<Snake_Eater>oldlaptop: I can't seem to find any consistency as to when it happens. It could be when browsing with Firefox, working with Geany/terminal or playing on Steam. It's pretty bound to happen at least once an hour and could easily last a minute (the mouse still moves, but I can't interact with the windows) before coming back again.
19:58<Snake_Eater>(I'm running openbox)
19:58<oldlaptop>aaah
19:59<oldlaptop>clearly not the same thing as I'm seeing then
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20:01<nutron>please forgive my crappy memory, as I'm sure I've done this before. How do I show which repository a specific debian package was installed/upgraded from?
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20:02<sney>apt-cache policy
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20:03<Maulkin>nutron: um...
20:04<Maulkin>nutron: That's difficult, but apt-cache policy <package> may help
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20:07<nutron>indeed, that was it, thanks Maulkin and sney
20:07<nutron>Looks like aptitude has rotted my brain...
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20:13<quantals>My screen keeps flickering how do i correct this problem?
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20:14<quantals>debian wheezy 7.3
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20:17<Maulkin>quantals: Which graphics card?
20:19<quantals>I have [Radeon HD 6310 but i dont know which driver is in use
20:20<Maulkin>quantals: http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=101550 may help...
20:21<quantals>ty let me check itout
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20:21<Maulkin>quantals: Could also be a hardware issue....
20:21<Maulkin>quantals: mail debian-user if you're stuck
20:21<Maulkin>!debian-user
20:21<dpkg>debian-user is a <mailing list> for on which users of Debian can seek help from other users. List address: debian-user@lists.debian.org. Archives: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/ . Also available through <NNTP> from gmane.org.
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23:26<Disconsented>So I am new to VPS hosting (and linux) and am wondering what options do I have avaliable to me for file transfers?
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23:27<sney>scp, sftp
23:27<sney>http for anonymous downloads
23:28<sney>don't use ftp unless you absolutely have to
23:30<Disconsented>Alright awesome :) Any recommendation on which is the easyst for newbies?
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23:31<sney>sftp can be used with file transfer utilities like filezilla so that's what I usually recommend for people updating webhosts and such
23:31<Disconsented>sftp it is then
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23:43<CyberBob>anyone have any luck getting headless booting to work in ppc/stable (for a powermac g5 in particular)?
23:44<sney>that's pretty niche.
23:44<sney>I got it working on a g3 about 10 years ago :P
23:45<sney>it's an openfirmware quirk, right? it doesn't want to come up if there's no keyboard.
23:45<sney>you could probably short the right ADB pins if it has those
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23:48<CyberBob>sney "ADB pins" ?
23:48<CyberBob>i don't mind having a keyboard connected by the way but i'd like to be able to boot to console without a monitor connected
23:48<sney>apple desktop bus. it was the input connector for a while, I can't remember when they switched to USB
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23:49<CyberBob>oh yeah i think i remember that
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23:49<CyberBob>some type of mini-din plug? mine only has usb
23:49<sney>I think ultimately it comes down to booting into openfirmware and changing the right settings that lets it boot without a display/keyboard
23:50<sney>(that's command+option+o+f during the boot chime)
23:50<sney>(and I have no idea what settings to look at or change)
23:50<CyberBob>yup i'm familiar with setenv boot-device and booting from OF at this point in my project
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23:51<CyberBob>misconfigured yaboot, thought i was screwed
23:51<CyberBob>was a simple fix though
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23:57<Disconsented>sney: Tyvm managed to get everything working ;)
23:57<sney>np
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