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#debian IRC Logs for 2014-01-18

---Logopened Sat Jan 18 00:00:34 2014
00:00<root>?
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00:13<RageRiot|>where would be the best place to get help with compile errors. the program I'm compileing is an old version of wine but I've tried winehq. do these errors mean anything to anyone?
00:13<RageRiot|>{standard input}: Assembler messages:
00:13<RageRiot|>{standard input}:32: Error: operand type mismatch for `push'
00:13<RageRiot|>{standard input}:33: Error: operand type mismatch for `push'
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00:14<RageRiot|>O_o
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00:24<St_megodius> /j gcc
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04:48<linuxator>how to change owner of the ntfs /dev/sda1 mounted at /Media2 with current owner root:root to DeepBlue:sharedusers?the mount options set to defaults
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04:50<administrator>china ?
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04:54<linuxator>how to get teamviewer?
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04:59<musca>linuxator: [only on amd64 enable multiarch,] apt-get update, manually download the i386 teamviewer package, dpkg -i the file, then do apt-get -f install
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06:50<Mamad>Night
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06:54<Balthazar74>Hi!
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06:56<Balthazar74>I can't change time 24 hour format at 12 hour in console...
06:56<Balthazar74>Look at http://paste.debian.net/77030/
06:57<cyd>Hi guys, I need your assistance. My production server has a very strange error. It shuts down or is completely not reachable in irregular time periods. I need to restart it remotely per hard reset. Do you have any advice at which log files I should take a look at?
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06:58<cyd>A PHP Application with an AMP-Stack is running on the server. The peak load is about 500-600 clients at the same time.
06:59<cyd>Debian version is 7.1
06:59<Balthazar74>cyd: Show your /var/log/messagess
07:00<cyd>ok one sec
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07:08<cyd>Balthazar74 here is my messages http://pastebin.com/NHD3DQpE
07:11<cyd>the last reset I did was on 16.01.2014 around 19:00
07:11<Balthazar74>date command is time shows in 24 hour format. How do I change it to 12 hours format? I can't change time format from 24 hour at 12 hours. Output date command http://paste.debian.net/77030/
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07:13<disposable>i have a router which has servers behind it under an ntp amplification attack. I am trying to write iptables rules on the router that would still let the servers get their time info but stop all the traffic from chinese and amazon IPs. can somebody check these rules and give me some comments? http://pastebin.com/XaAHG9gH
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07:14<Fenhl>how do I find out which of the files in /dev corresponds to the Windows C:\ partition?
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07:16<disposable>Fenhl: fdisk -l
07:17<Fenhl>disposable: no output
07:17<disposable>Fenhl: run as root
07:17<Fenhl>oh
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07:18<kk>hi there
07:18<Fenhl>disposable: how big is a block?
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07:19<disposable>Fenhl: if you want to see sizes in megabytes, just run cfdisk /dev/sda (or cfdisk /dev/sdb, depending on which disk you want to check).
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07:21<Fenhl>disposable: that gives me an error message, “FATAL ERROR: Bad logical partition 7: enlarged logical partitions overlap”
07:21<Fenhl>although this might explain the hiccups during the install
07:21<Fenhl>cc SynrG
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07:22<SynrG>good morning. hm?
07:22<SynrG>ah. so a partitioning error?
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07:23<SynrG>Fenhl: what did you do to repartition? just use partman? (the partitioning front-end in debian-installer)?
07:23<Fenhl>yes
07:23<Fenhl>well I had to convert 2 of the primary partitions to logical ones under Windows
07:23<SynrG>strange. possibly the partition table was wonky to begin with?
07:23<SynrG>ah
07:23<SynrG>so that may have been where the problem started.
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07:25<SynrG>i don't know what "convert primary partitions to logical" entails ... i would think this would involve deleting those partitions and recreating them.
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07:25<SynrG>if you have complex partition rearranging to do, use gparted or so ... there's a live distribution of that.
07:26<Fenhl>that's probably what it did (although all data is still there)
07:26<Fenhl>something else: the audio output is really low volume, am I missing a driver or something?
07:28<SynrG>there is probably some channel that is set too low. pulseaudio will offer only a single control ... you could use alsamixer (command-line) to try to adjust individual channels on the card: alsamixer -c 0
07:28<nevyn>don't do complex partitioning use lvm?
07:29<SynrG>nevyn: well, i think in this case the problem was, all primary partitions were used up, so there wasn't any available partition to install debian
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07:29<SynrG>not really all that 'complex'. but still, a bit of a hassle if you want to keep all your data
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07:30<SynrG>i haven't used partman to do this job, though, so i don't know what it can and cannot do there.
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07:44<Fenhl>SynrG: alsamixer doesn't seem to exist
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07:48<edu>всем привет
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07:49<edu>hello
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07:49<unknown>Hi, i'm a cisco student , i want to install debian server in my class, i need a map ?
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07:52<abrotman>a map?
07:52<abrotman>dpkg: tell unknown about ig
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07:54<unknown>abortman: what i need to do before the installation ? nothing..
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07:54<abrotman>unknown: read the installation guide
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07:55<unknown>ok, my friend want to install windows server before debian will not support a lexmark printer
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07:56<nevyn>which lexmark printer?
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08:03<amoe>hi, I am trying to minimize writes to an SSD partition. Is there any way to get the kernel to log the filename of all file writes systemwide, along with the process name/id? (I don't mind if it kills performance.)
08:04<amoe>ah, nm, I seem to have found an answer in http://superuser.com/questions/226744/
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08:16<SynrG>Fenhl: apt-get install alsa-utils
08:17<SynrG>Fenhl: also, use apt-file (need to install that too :) to find which package(s) a file path exists in
08:17<Fenhl>oh, nice
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10:54<jerad>i need some help i have minor issues
10:56<abrotman>!ask
10:56<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
10:57<jerad>Got me a G4 Ibook, running smoothly, but no sound
10:57<jerad>its a 1.67GHz with Radeon 9200
10:58<jerad>14"
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11:02<mtn>jerad: sound settings, alsamixer, pavucontrol are some options to try
11:04<jerad>ok
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11:04<jerad>im "mediocore" at linux this is LinuxMint 11
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11:06<abrotman>jerad: you sohuld ask them, this channel is for Debian support
11:07<abrotman>jerad: #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org
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11:15<jerad>ty
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11:52<rkt2013>hi
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13:31<gennta83>こんばんは
13:32<gennta83>どなたかいますか。
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13:32<abrotman>!jp
13:32<dpkg>Japanese speakers: please use #debianjp on irc.debian.or.jp or speak English here.
13:32<gennta83>sorry
13:32*abrotman wonders if that still exists
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13:33<gennta83>I dont know , well
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13:34<abrotman>seems to
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13:56<ayja>Hi friends! I have problem, I accendentaly did sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc bs=1M count=1; sync; on another drive. Which have two partitions encrypted with LUKS. Can I restore it?
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13:58<Volley>ayja: well ... depends ... did you encrypt the partition or the device?
13:58<ayja>partitions
13:58<ayja>with default ubuntu GUI
13:59<abrotman>ayja: This channel is for Debian support, not Ubuntu. Please use #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net
13:59<ayja>uff ok :)
13:59<Volley>then you are probably lucky, because for quite some times, partitions usually are alligned at 1 MB ... so you only need to recreate your partition table i think
14:00<ayja>good, is it possible just to do it with testdisk?
14:00<abrotman>ayja: This channel is for Debian support, not Ubuntu. Please use #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net
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14:03<ayja>Anyway, thanks Volley ;)
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14:24<botsis>hello people
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14:25<botsis>i'm installing debian using the win32 installer. just finished the partitioning, it's installing the base system now. i'm connected to the net via a powerline. powerline got disconnected (when it was downloading libssl1.0.0). powerline is back in now, but download isn't re-starting. what to do ?
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15:02<devil_>win32 installer?
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15:03<oldlaptop>win32loader, unless I miss my guess
15:03<oldlaptop>see: http://goodbye-microsoft.com
15:04<devil_>yeah, just googled it, never knew it existed
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15:18<leif>suppose I want to make two very similar packages, for example, one version compiled with something enabled and another with it disabled, so that I end up with package-foo_1.0.0_amd64.deb and package-bar_1.0.0_amd64.deb, which contain mostly the same thing and can basically replace each other
15:18<leif>it would be nice to have one set of debian config files and just tweak the names with an option
15:19<leif>is there a way to do this short of writing a script to sed the config, rules, changelog etc. files and rename anything like package-foo.upstart to package-bar.upstart?
15:19<Naturesh1dow>Huh, since when does Debian use Upstart?
15:20<leif>fine, package-foo.init
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15:20<leif>wait this should be in #debian-mentors, my mistake
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15:21<Guest4191>about ICEWEASEL: are there any benefits/drawbacks to backporting the newer version to wheezy?
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15:21<lostatwork>Guest4191: it is already in wheezy-backports
15:22<Guest4191>i see : ) i am wondering if i should update to that version, or stay with 17
15:22<lostatwork>Guest4191: personally i use wheezy-backports to get the newers version but it is entirely up to you
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15:24<Guest4191>is the newer version stable?
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15:26<patrik>Hi, can somebody help me with setting up static ip address for vmware guest ? I have set up nat on vmnet2 and also set static ip within the range, but no luck. Thanks a lot
15:26<lostatwork>Guest4191: works fine for me
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15:26<Guest4191>lostatwork: ty for your input
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15:41<Naturesh1dow>patrik: certainly
15:42<Naturesh1dow>patrik: 1., somebody can help, I am sure of that; 2. that somebody most likely is your friendly VMware support clerk :)
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15:44<abrotman>patrik: man 5 interfaces
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15:45<alankar>hello all
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15:56<SamB>what's an easy-to-use bittorrent client with getright-style webseed support?
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15:59<sney>don't know what that second thing is
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16:03<SamB>sney: that's the one which uses ordinary mirrors rather than requiring special scripts on the HTTP server
16:04<SamB>(and as a consequence need not actually be restricted to http[s])
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16:06<SamB>!torrent
16:06<dpkg>BitTorrent is a peer-to-peer (P2P) file distribution protocol. 'bittorrent' is also the name of the original BitTorrent client. Other clients include <aria2>, <azureus>, <bittornado>, <deluge>, <ktorrent>, <lftp>, <mldonkey>, <rtorrent> and <transmission>. To download Debian <stable> CD/DVD images via BitTorrent, see http://www.debian.org/CD/torrent-cd/ . #bittorrent on irc.freenode.net.
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16:07<a>where to upload images? thanks.
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16:07*SamB was hoping for a wiki link ...
16:07<SamB>!paste
16:07<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>.
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16:07<SamB>Guest4196: picpaste.com should work
16:07<SamB>grr
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16:16<zryan>how to install videocalling on ubuntu?
16:17<CyberBob>what is the standard way to run a shell command on boot?
16:18<zryan>how to install videocalling facebook on ubuntu?
16:19<lostatwork>!ubuntu
16:19<dpkg>Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>.
16:19<abrotman>dpkg: tell CyberBob about run at startup
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16:26<zryan>IE9-Windows7-x86-enu not install on wine and playonlinux
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16:28<SamB>sney: anyway, getright-style webseeding is defined in http://www.bittorrent.org/beps/bep_0019.html
16:29<Hotwire>Hi, i'm having some trouble with apt-pinning.My work uses a custom bind9 package for one of our servers, but we want other servers to use the standard debian package. We've tried adjusting the Pin-priority but on the version and the release on a per package basis without success. Anyone know of this is possible with apt pinning?
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16:33<mohamed>cant you just remove other sources from sources.list
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16:34<Hotwire>mohamed: the repo that serves the custom bind9 also serves a bunch of other custom packages we need
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16:45<mohamed>@Hotwire this explains easily how to do apt-pinning
16:45<mohamed>http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html
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17:03<CyberBob>ty abrotman
17:03<Hotwire>mohamed: I think the specific trouble is two fold
17:03<Hotwire>mohamed
17:03<Hotwire>http://carlo17.home.xs4all.nl/howto/debian.html#errata
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17:04<Hotwire>this report tells us that when specifying a priority for a version we are requesting that nothing with a lower priority be installed
17:04<Hotwire>rather than setting the packge priority
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17:05<Hotwire>dont we dont seem to be able to set specific packages at different priorities using their origin
17:05<Hotwire>only all packages
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17:15<sney>Hotwire: I would suggest 'aptitude hold' on the machine(s) where you don't want bind9 to be updated. simpler than messing with pin priorities and plenty for keeping 1 package (plus deps) from updating
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17:18<CyberBob>the debian installer partition configurator gave me 5.6GB swap. i have 2GB ram on this machine. if i were to upgrade to something like 4GB-8GB would i need to repartition to increase swap or should i be well enough off using the preexisting swap?
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17:19<sney>CyberBob: only if you use hibernate
17:19<sney>and even then 5.6 is probably more than enough
17:19<sney>with that much ram you don't even technically need swap, except for hibernate
17:21<izulium>hi there
17:21<CyberBob>yeah i don't plan on ever using hibernate or suspend on this machine
17:22<CyberBob>it's purpose will be a light-load lamp
17:22<izulium>Somebody for an issue with deb install on recent laptop (I mean EFI & SSHD)?
17:22<sney>it doesn't hurt to have swap, and your system will use it sometimes even without running out of physical ram, but I'd say that much is even a little excessive
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17:22<CyberBob>ok cool
17:23<sney>izulium: just ask your question
17:23<CyberBob>i've got more than enough space for it, and a secondary storage drive to boot, so i'll just leave it as is
17:23<izulium>sney, ok
17:24<CyberBob>the only reason i'd need more is if i hibernated at a very high ram usage am i understanding that right?
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17:24<sney>CyberBob: right. hibernate saves everything in memory to disk + some minor overhead to tell the kernel what to do with it
17:24<CyberBob>yup ok
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17:24<izulium>so i've disabled the secure boot option. I'm adding new boot option with efi on usb key. it's booting on the key. when it's detecting the cdrom, i've an error like "no common cd-rom drive...".
17:25<CyberBob>btw thank you for your help recently sney
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17:25<sney>np
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17:25<CyberBob>i managed to get auto-on after power loss working by setting up the same init.d script i was trying before but this time with a new bios battery
17:25<izulium>i've trying to switch to console and mount manually but i got an error like "invalid option". I can't mount anything
17:26<CyberBob>the old one was reading at .1VDC :p
17:26<sney>izulium: if you have usb boot working, what's the cdrom for?
17:26<izulium>sney, the installer tries to reach a cdrom. it's a emulation.
17:27<sney>did you make that installer with unetbootin or something
17:27<izulium>i've use another laptop with debian. I've tried with dd and cp...
17:28<sney>hmm, I was pretty sure that was deprecated. ok.
17:28<izulium>sudo dd if=debian-7.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso of=/dev/sdc bs=4M; sync
17:28<sney>yeah
17:29<sney>alright, I would ask in #debian-boot since this sounds like a d-i issue, possibly a problem with your particular hardware
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17:29<izulium>cp debian-7.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso /dev/sdc
17:29<izulium>same result
17:29<izulium>md5sum is ok
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17:30<micechal_>how would I go about copying single file to all subdirectories of some directory under different name?
17:30<izulium>sney, ok tks
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17:30<micechal_>like I've got directory A with file "a.png"
17:31<micechal_>and directory B with subdirectories "sub1", "sub2" and "sub3"
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17:31<sney>probably with a for loop
17:31<micechal_>I want to copy "a.png" to all these three subdirectories under the name "image.png"
17:32<micechal_>find /usr/share/nginx/html/rarch -type d -ok rsync indexChild.php {}/index.php ;
17:32<micechal_>I came up with this
17:32<micechal_>but it doesn't seem to work
17:32<micechal_>I need indexChild.php copied as index.php
17:33<micechal_>can loops be done without bash scripts?
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17:34<micechal_>rsync indexChild.php /usr/share/nginx/html/rarch/Windows/index.php
17:34<micechal_>this one works
17:34<necroom>hola
17:34<micechal_>but I'd need to change the directory by hand
17:36<necroom>español ?
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17:36<micechal_>try #debian-es
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17:38<necroom>hola
17:39<micechal_>necroom, #debian-es
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19:39<RageRiot>hi I'm trying to build wine, I've ran apt-get build-dep wine but I geet the following error
19:39<RageRiot>configure: error: Cannot build a 32-bit program, you need to install 32-bit development libraries.
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19:40<RageRiot>I figure it's going to be build-dep wine<somthing 32 bit >
19:40<RageRiot>anyone know ?
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19:48<oldlaptop>aptitude build-dep wine:i386 may work
19:49<oldlaptop>you will need to add i386 if you haven't already
19:49<oldlaptop>dpkg: tell RageRiot about multiarch
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19:50<RageRiot>oh
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19:52<RageRiot>hmm I see. but it didnt seem to find anything. maybe wine:i386 isnt on repo
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19:57<stderr_dk>RageRiot: Do you have i386 versions of the needed libraries?
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19:58<RageRiot>I thought I did.
19:58<RageRiot>E: Unable to find a source package for wine:i386
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19:59<RageRiot>it's a new install debian 7.2
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20:00<stderr_dk>From "man apt-get": "If desired a host-architecture can be specified with the --host-architecture option instead."
20:02<stderr_dk>Or maybe "apt-get -a=i386 build-dep wine"?
20:02<RageRiot>i;; try that
20:02<stderr_dk>D'oh! -a IS --host-architecture... :-)
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20:03<RageRiot>Note, selecting 'libpng12-dev:i386' instead of 'libpng-dev:i386'
20:03<RageRiot>E: Build-Depends dependency for wine cannot be satisfied because the package oss4-dev cannot be found
20:03<RageRiot>sound isnt going to be an issue for me. I dont need it.
20:04<stderr_dk>You have enabled multiarch, right?
20:05<RageRiot>with dpkg ?
20:05<stderr_dk>oss4-dev is in i386, so it's a bit weird apt-get can't find it.
20:05<stderr_dk>Yes, with dpkg.
20:06<RageRiot>yep
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20:06<moises>boo
20:07<stderr_dk>RageRiot: Maybe install that package yourself first and try again?
20:08<stderr_dk>BTW: What's wrong with the existing wine package?
20:09<RageRiot>sock.c needs patching
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20:09<RageRiot>the ap I'm trying to run is a game server component
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20:10<RageRiot>without the patch it will fail to connect players
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20:11<RageRiot>stderr: do you mean install the oss package? like this -? apt-get install oss4-dev
20:12<stderr_dk>Yes.
20:12<RageRiot>already installed
20:13<RageRiot>and cannot find if I do apt-get install oss4-dev:i386
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20:13<javier2478>hia
20:13<javier2478>hi
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20:16<stderr_dk>RageRiot: The bottom of https://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/HOWTO has a suggestion...
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20:17<RageRiot>thanks
20:18<stderr_dk>I don't know if http://pkg-wine.alioth.debian.org/ is useful too?
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20:59<costello>Hey
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21:30<Molly83>Hello, I am trying to format an Ubuntu pc, in order to install Debian. I deleted old partitions via fdisk, now I fail to create a ne filesystem
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21:31<Molly83>the error I get is mkfs.ext: no such file or directory
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21:32<Molly83>udevadm trigger is not permitted
21:32<stderr_dk>The command is "mkfs.ext2", "mkfs.ext3" or "mkfs.ext4".
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21:33<Molly83>ah ok
21:33<Molly83>I tried ext2
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21:34<Molly83>mkfs -t ext2 /dev/sda1 gave me:
21:34<stderr_dk>The installer can format partitions too, so you don't have to do it yourself...
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21:34<Molly83>/dev/sda1 is mounted; will not make a filesystem here!
21:35<Molly83>oops, too late
21:35<Molly83>I already depleted old partitions
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21:36<stderr_dk>Well, that error says it all. :-) You forgot to umount before you removed the partition.
21:36<Molly83>can I umount i now?
21:36<Molly83>O.O''
21:36<Molly83>like sudo umount /dev/sda1...
21:37<stderr_dk>Depends what you have/had on that partition. If it is/was your / partition, you can't.
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21:37<Molly83>ok, i'm doomed
21:37<stderr_dk>But you should still be able to reboot and do stuff from the installer.
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21:38<Molly83>ok, i am rebooting
21:38<Molly83>what should I do now, when I see the boot loader?
21:40<stderr_dk>Make sure your computer boots from the CD, not your hard disk.
21:40<Molly83>ok
21:40<Molly83>(now actually it got stuck in the rebooting...)
21:41<stderr_dk>Yeah, / isn't there anymore...
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21:41<Molly83>ok
21:42<Molly83>I pressed "c" to have a command line...
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21:42<Molly83>sda1 should not be booted now, is that correct?
21:42<Molly83>sorry
21:42<Molly83>mounted
21:43<stderr_dk>The command line? Which one? Grub?
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21:44<Molly83>I don't now :(
21:45<stderr_dk>You need to select to boot from the CD before you get to grub. It's probably F12.
21:45<Molly83>actually, it does not even recognise the frenc keyboard, so I have to locate the keys myself
21:45<Molly83>ok, thanks
21:45<stderr_dk>Or F1 or Esc or Del or .... :-/
21:45<Molly83>is grab in effect
21:48<stderr_dk>I'm not sure what you mean...
21:49<Molly83>mmm,
21:49<Molly83>i am quite confused
21:49<Molly83>the prblem also is that the system is in french (and i do not speak french)
21:50<Molly83>i just somehow managed to get into a page giving information about the system
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21:50<stderr_dk>Probably the BIOS. Is that in french too?
21:51<Molly83>yeah :(
21:52<Molly83>is there a possibility to do something from the grub shell?
21:52<stderr_dk>With no clear way of choosing another language... Great! :-(
21:53<Molly83>i should have avoided to deplete the old partitions
21:54<stderr_dk>Probably doesn't matter much now. You're not in the old system anymore.
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21:54<stderr_dk>Does it say "langue" anywhere?
21:54<Molly83>also, i cannot press del because i don't find it on the keyboard (I think isa a french one)
21:55<Molly83>I don't see it
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21:55<stderr_dk>Laptop or regular keyboard?
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21:56<Molly83>i found: F10 configuratioun du bios
21:56<Molly83>maybe is that one!
21:56<Molly83>laptop
21:56<stderr_dk>That sounds right...
21:57<Molly83>i found langue
21:57<stderr_dk>You should be able to find "english" under that...
21:57<Molly83>ok, is in english right now
21:57<stderr_dk>Wohoo!
21:57<Molly83>yeah :)
21:58<stderr_dk>Look for something about "boot sequence" or "boot options" or something about "boot"...
21:58<Molly83>ok
21:58<stderr_dk>What laptop model is it?
21:59<Molly83>ok
21:59<Molly83>found
21:59<Molly83>is form compaq
22:00<stderr_dk>You want the computer to try "CD" before "Hard disk".
22:00<Molly83>i don't know the name, maybe insyde h20?
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22:01<Molly83>done
22:01<Molly83>i saved
22:02<Molly83>now it went on the bootloader
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22:02<Molly83>still it says ubuntu
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22:02<stderr_dk>Did it even try to boot from the CD?
22:03<Molly83>no
22:03<Molly83>it stopped in the boot loader
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22:09<stderr_dk>Molly83: Try rebooting and press F1 and the other F-keys and see if you can get to a menu with an option to boot from CD.
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22:10<Molly83>ok, i already set "usb cd/dvd rom drive" as a preferred option
22:11<ION4S>hello
22:11<Molly83>i actually have another one called "internal cd/dvd rom drive"
22:11<Molly83>maybe is this one
22:11<stderr_dk>USB CD/DVD would be an external CD drive.
22:11<Molly83>still it goes on the bootloader
22:12<ION4S>im new here :)
22:13<stderr_dk>Molly83: Still without even trying the CD?
22:13<stderr_dk>How did you burn the install CD?
22:13<Molly83>seems like
22:13<Molly83>ah ehm...
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22:13<stderr_dk>ION4S: Hi. If you got a Debian question, just ask...
22:13<Molly83>i do not have one O.O''
22:14<Molly83>the idea was to make new partitions for tonight
22:14<Molly83>then install the new os tomorrow
22:14<stderr_dk>Molly83: How were you planning on installing Debian?
22:14<Molly83>usb actually
22:15<stderr_dk>USB CD or USB memory stick / hard disk?
22:15<Molly83>memory stick
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22:16<Molly83>i got stuck when i tried to create a new file system
22:16<stderr_dk>Ok, then you want external hard disk near the top of the boot order.
22:16<Molly83>i'm been silly
22:16<Molly83>i've been silly
22:16<Molly83>ok
22:17<stderr_dk>No problem. You just can't use the old system anymore.
22:17<Molly83>right now i do not have the image in the usb
22:17<Molly83>i planned to do the installation tomorrow
22:17<Molly83>so now the paln would change
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22:17<Molly83>so now the plan would change:
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22:17<Molly83>a) i need the usb ready first
22:18<Molly83>b) i will have to change the boot order to favour the usb devise
22:18<Molly83>then i could create a file system, is that correct?
22:19<stderr_dk>Well... c) Boot from the USB device and start the installer. That would ask you to select language and a bunch of other stuff and one of those would be to partition and format your hard disk.
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22:20<Molly83>ok, thanks
22:20<Molly83>last tip for tonight (it's 4.20 am here): how much space do i need for the debian image?
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22:21<stderr_dk>~ 500MB.
22:21<ION4S>molly83: i would say its recommed to have about 1gb
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22:22<Molly83>fair enough, i have a 8gb usb device
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22:22<stderr_dk>The ISO is 508559360 bytes...
22:22<ION4S>Molly83: yeah thats the perfect size
22:22<Molly83>ok, good
22:22<abrotman>!enter
22:22<dpkg>The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel.
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22:23<ION4S>does anyody lnow how to
22:24<ION4S>srry *does anybody know how to change keyboard binds in lxde?
22:24<Molly83>sorry for putting to much enters. Well, thanks a lot guys, people like you make the Debian project amazing. have a good night (or day, lol)
22:24<ION4S>good night :)
22:25<stderr_dk>Molly83: Ask dpkg about "usb install" tomorrow.
22:25<Molly83>ok, bye!
22:26<ION4S>bye bye :)
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22:28<ION4S>debhelper: do you use lxde?
22:28<ION4S>debhelper: so maybe you could tell me how to change key binds for changing windows
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22:30<stderr_dk>ION4S: It's a bot.
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22:34<ION4S>All: How are you today (or tonight)? :)
22:34<stderr_dk>ION4S: Maybe https://wiki.debian.org/Openbox#Keyboard_shortcuts can help?
22:34-!-S0laRw|nD [~JimBob@118-92-65-118.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz] has joined #debian
22:34<ION4S>stderr_dk: Thanks :)
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22:41<ION4S>stderr_dk: What is a bot?
22:41-!-jalalsfs_ [~jalal@101.223.163.170] has joined #debian
22:42<stderr_dk>A (ro)bot. Not a real person, but a script that knows some keywords and commands.
22:43<ION4S>stderr_dk: I know whats a bot but you said: "Its a bot" Who do you mean with the bot? :)
22:43<stderr_dk>debhelper is a bot.
22:44<ION4S>oh ok im new here so i didnt know it :)
22:45<ION4S>stderr_dk: which gui do u use?
22:45*SamB isn't even sure debhelper has any public keywords/commands ...
22:45<SamB>ION4S: it's best not to assume people use a GUI ;-)
22:45<stderr_dk>SamB: You're probably right...
22:45-!-jalalsfs [~jalal@0001afc5.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
22:45<stderr_dk>ION4S: On those of my machines that do have a GUI, I'm using XFCE.
22:46<ION4S>stderr_dk: I use on my eeepc lxde, cause its pretty and simple :)
22:47<stderr_dk>Well, I use xfce because it's ugly and extremely hard to use... (Or not...)
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22:48<ION4S>stderr_dk: Okayy :D
22:48<stderr_dk>I might be kidding...
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22:49<ION4S>stderr_dk: I know, acctualy gui's are for newbies
22:50<stderr_dk>Depends on what you're trying to do. Personally I prefer e.g. a browser with a GUI.
22:51<stderr_dk>But on the other hand, I do use alpine as my mail client...
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22:52<ION4S>Yeah, i think browsing the internet without a gui is not ver nice
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22:52<ION4S>*very nice
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22:56<oldlaptop>ION4S: Depends on what you are trying to do
22:57<ION4S>oldlaptop: Yup i know, just wanted to ask :)
22:57<oldlaptop>if you restrict yourself to that subset of the Web which is not designed with the implicit assumption that EVERYONE READING THIS HAS GUI, lynx (say) works pretty well
22:58<oldlaptop>try reading Wikipedia with it sometime (MediaWiki does graceful degredation pretty well)
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22:59<ION4S>I wanted to replace the login background with my own one, but it says when i try to replace the no permissions
22:59<ION4S>How can i grant permissions?
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23:02<sney>ION4S: are you trying to replace the actual file in /usr/share? I would think you can just set it to a different image
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23:18<ION4S>sney: i tried to replace it but it said i have no permission to do that
23:19<sney>right, because things outside of your home directory can only be changed by root or a user with the right permissions. most people use sudo for this
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23:20<ION4S>how can i grant sudo on my user?
23:20<sney>usermod -aG sudo yourusername
23:20<sney>then log out & log back in
23:20<sney>!permissions
23:20<dpkg>For information on permissions, read info coreutils 'File Permissions', http://mywiki.wooledge.org/Permissions and http://www.comptechdoc.org/os/linux/usersguide/linux_ugfilesp.html . For further information, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_permission and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chmod and follow the setuid and setgid links within. See also <ssh permissions>, <qotd232>. http://wiki.debian.org/Permissions
23:20<sney>some reading material.
23:20<ION4S>ok thx
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23:27*dvs prefers adduser
23:27<sney>muscle memory preference. they do the same thing
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