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---Logopened Sun Feb 09 00:00:15 2014
00:01<DevOpsDevilDawg>are you installing Open Source or proprietary
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00:02<Al3xG0>what works.
00:02<SamB>I like how that leaves ATI right next to the model name/number where it belongs
00:02<Al3xG0>'m beginner
00:02<DevOpsDevilDawg>both, but Debian folks tend to prefer to stay to the open source stuff
00:03<Al3xG0>DevOpsDevilDawg how do?
00:04<DevOpsDevilDawg>from root: apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-ati
00:04<DevOpsDevilDawg>that's for the HD7000 series, I assume it covers the 7970
00:05<Al3xG0>? paste
00:06<Al3xG0>DevOpsDevilDawg http://pastebin.com/dwub38Vv
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00:07<DevOpsDevilDawg>looks like you already have the driver installed
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00:07<DevOpsDevilDawg>do a lsmod | grep ati and see if it's loaded?
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00:10<Al3xG0>root@SilverLords:/home/silverlords/Downloads# lsmod | grep ati
00:10<DevOpsDevilDawg>okay, output?
00:10<Al3xG0>DevOpsDevilDawg no
00:10<Al3xG0>output
00:10<Al3xG0>;/
00:11<DevOpsDevilDawg>are you working from the command line?
00:11<DevOpsDevilDawg>no gui?
00:11<Al3xG0>yeah
00:11<Al3xG0>root
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00:12<DevOpsDevilDawg>then "modprobe xserver-xorg-video-ati" and you should be able to startx
00:13<Al3xG0>root@SilverLords:/home/silverlords/Downloads# modprobe xserver-xorg-video-ati
00:13<Al3xG0>FATAL: Module xserver-xorg-video-ati not found.
00:13<Al3xG0>root@SilverLords:/home/silverlords/Downloads# apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-ati
00:14<Al3xG0>xserver-xorg-video-ati lalest version
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00:15<DevOpsDevilDawg>my bad, just try modprobe ati
00:15<DevOpsDevilDawg>sorry, I don't use ATI myself, I try to stick to Nvidia
00:17<DevOpsDevilDawg>did that work?
00:18<Al3xG0>??
00:18<DevOpsDevilDawg>modprobe ati
00:18<DevOpsDevilDawg>did that work?
00:18<Al3xG0>dont underst for u
00:19<DevOpsDevilDawg>run "modprobe ati"
00:19<Al3xG0>root@SilverLords:/home/silverlords/Downloads# modprobe ati
00:19<Al3xG0>FATAL: Module ati not found.
00:20<Al3xG0>DevOpsDevilDawg ;/
00:23<DevOpsDevilDawg>try "modprobe radeon"
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00:25<chealer>Al3xG0: are you trying to start X or to accelerate 3D?
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00:26<DevOpsDevilDawg>chealer: he will not understand the difference in what you are asking him
00:26<DevOpsDevilDawg>he just needs his vid driver loaded
00:26<DevOpsDevilDawg>I couldn't remember the name of the driver provided by xserver-xorg-video-ati
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00:27<DevOpsDevilDawg>it us to be ati, it appears now it is radeon
00:27<chealer>DevOpsDevilDawg: xserver-xorg-video-ati provides several drivers
00:28<SamB>I thought the driver was an X thing
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00:28<DevOpsDevilDawg>according to its packages page, it only provides one, radeon, which supports a lot of different chips
00:28<SamB>I mean, the kernel driver doesn't come in xserver-xorg-video-ati ...
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00:29<DevOpsDevilDawg>SamB: the kernel module does
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00:29<chealer>SamB: the radeon X driver generally uses a kernel driver
00:29<Al3xG0>i reboot my system
00:29<Al3xG0>on moment
00:30<chealer>DevOpsDevilDawg: no, see http://packages.debian.org/en/wheezy/xserver-xorg-video-ati
00:31<DevOpsDevilDawg>My bad, I was looking at this: http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/xserver-xorg-video-radeon
00:31<DevOpsDevilDawg>The short of it is this: ATI sucks
00:31<DevOpsDevilDawg>I never have these issues with my Intel or Nvidia cards
00:32<DevOpsDevilDawg>but it's still the radeon kernel module he needs
00:33<DevOpsDevilDawg>of course, now he's rebooted his system instead of just starting Xd
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00:45<Al3xG0>I'm no sound driver
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00:46<Al3xG0>I'm no hdmi sound driver
00:46<Al3xG0>;/
00:46<Al3xG0>DevOpsDevilDawg
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00:46<DevOpsDevilDawg>is your video working?
00:46<Al3xG0>yeah
00:47<DevOpsDevilDawg>outstanding
00:47<Al3xG0>i need configure resolucion hdmi
00:47<Al3xG0>I like to set this up?
00:48<DevOpsDevilDawg>are you asking about video resolution or are you asking about hdmi sound?
00:49<Al3xG0>all
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00:50<scooty_puff>i have a uefi mobo that wont recognize my os. the way it use to work was that i could hit F11 at the bios screen and it would list my hard drives then it would list debian as a bios boot option. but i was messing with my hard drives and that boot option is gone and my mobo wont recognize debian now. does anyone know uefi well enough to understand why it works this way?
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00:50<DevOpsDevilDawg>your sound is a common issue, try this page: http://dnh500.blogspot.com/2013/02/no-sound-on-ati-radeon-hdmi-in.html
00:55<Al3xG0>lol
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00:58<Al3xG0>is not working
01:02<DevOpsDevilDawg>http://zeroset.mnim.org/2013/11/17/sound-over-hdmi-with-amdati-radeon-hd-543054505470-on-ubuntu/
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01:14<elcot>hi
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01:15<kefren>hi i am new on this can any body help me
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01:16<DevOpsDevilDawg>Welcome newbies
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01:17<DevOpsDevilDawg>If you have a question, ask it
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01:47<afsal>dpkg lsb_release
01:47<dpkg>afsal: are you smoking crack?
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01:47<afsal>dpkg gnu
01:47<dpkg>well, gnu is a recursive acronym which stands for GNU's Not UNIX. The GNU project is dedicated to the creation of a 100% Free Software Operating System. http://www.gnu.org/ #gnu on irc.freenode.net.
01:47<themill>afsal: you can talk to dpkg in private
01:47<afsal>themill: how
01:48<themill>/msg afsal <keyword>
01:49<themill>err.... /msg dpkg <keyword>
01:49<donodomundo>I see if there is sound driver installed?
01:49<afsal>themill: actually I'm familiarising with channel
01:50<afsal>themill: it is not working
01:51<rryoumaa>afsal: check out your other channels for one named dpkg maybe
01:52<afsal>rryoumaa: /msg dpkg <keyword> this is not working
01:52<afsal>rryoumaa: i tried /msg dpkg gnu
01:53<rryoumaa>afsal: i am no expert. wfm.
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01:54<afsal>themill: /msg dpkg <keyword> this is not working
01:54<DevOpsDevilDawg>afsal: if you do "/msg dpkg keyword" it will open up a channel called dpkg that will give you the info you are looking for
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01:54<afsal>DevOpsDevilDawg: nothing happens
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01:55<DevOpsDevilDawg>afsal: what IRC client are you using?
01:55<themill>afsal: your irc client will have opened up a new window with the message from dpkg
01:56<afsal>themill: I'm using "irssi" as client
01:57<DevOpsDevilDawg>afsal: I've never used irssi so I can't tell you have to tab through your channels
01:57<afsal>which client you are using???
01:58<DevOpsDevilDawg>I'm on a Mac, so I use Adium
01:59<DevOpsDevilDawg>but when on my debian desktop, I use Pidgin
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02:01<afsal>which client you prefer in debian
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02:03<DevOpsDevilDawg>afsal: Pidgin
02:04<afsal>themill: which one you will prefer??
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02:07<silverlords>not appear on the sound controller http://gyazo.com/a7ad258a77d4ca8189b11d2e41cff5b0.png
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02:14<Sky-Roker>Hi, does anybody know, what "unavaileble" status means? It's in logoff menu.
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02:14<Sky-Roker>Is it here social-system like ubuntu one?
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02:20<Sky-Roker>....anybody?
02:21<Sky-Roker>...awesome.
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02:22<knives47z>my right arrow key is broken. I got the keycode table from xmodmap and then remapped it to my end key. last time I did this remapping it worked fine. after I restarted though and executed the code again, my end would no longer work as the right key after bound. I check xev and when I press End it no longer returns a keycode. does anyone know whats up with this?
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02:25<afsal>Sky-Roker: you mean 'Unavailable' shows under your username??
02:25<silverlords>not appear on the sound controller http://gyazo.com/a7ad258a77d4ca8189b11d2e41cff5b0.png
02:26<afsal>silverlords: what is not appear??
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02:28<silverlords>afsal, http://paste.debian.net/80957/
02:28<silverlords>afsal,
02:28<silverlords>root@SilverLords:/home/silverlords# lspci |grep HDMI
02:28<silverlords>01:00.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Tahiti XT HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 7970 Series]
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02:39<Sky-Roker> OK, another question, i have NVIDIA Corporation GF114 [GeForce GTX 560 Ti] gpu, so, how do i install latest drivers?
02:39<Sky-Roker>apt-get install nvidia-current doesnt work
02:40<Sky-Roker>Console said that no installation candidate found
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02:45<afsal>Sky-Roker: which debian you using?
02:46<Sky-Roker><afsal> latest
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02:46<Sky-Roker>7-th, i think
02:46<afsal>Sky-Roker: add this "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free" to your /etc/apt/sources.list
02:46<afsal>Sky-Roker: add this "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free" to your /etc/apt/sources.list
02:47<Sky-Roker>from repository manager or with gedit, for example?
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02:47<Sky-Roker>Added
02:48<Sky-Roker>sorry for my bad english
02:48<afsal>Sky-Roker: for eg: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
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02:49<Sky-Roker>what is eg?
02:49<afsal>Sky-Roker: "Example"
02:49<Sky-Roker>ok
02:49<Sky-Roker>added
02:49<afsal>Sky-Roker: then exit nano
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02:50<Sky-Roker>and next?
02:50<rahuldroy>Hi guys/ladies, Just wondering if you could me out a bit. I have installed lamp sever on my laptop. Is there a way to disable it during boot and manually start it when needed.
02:50<afsal>update to this type : sudo apt-get update
02:51<Sky-Roker>oh, well, it's look only thing i forgot it's to do update XD
02:51<Sky-Roker>thanks you
02:52<afsal>Sky-Roker: now try to install the nvidia drivers
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02:53<knives47z>rahuldroy, there is a way to do it but it requires unlinking stuff within the /etc/init.d directory I believe. Debian doesn't seem to have a quick way to do it, but from my understanding what you can do it install the package rcconf, and then you can use that to turn the start-on-boot settings for most scripts and programs
02:53<afsal>Sky-Roker: if you need you can check this also https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers
02:54<knives47z>at least that's what I do
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02:54<vincent_c>rahuldroy: update-rc.d apache2 disable
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02:55<vincent_c>(and same for mysql)
02:55<Sky-Roker>afsal: using "sudo apt-get install nvidia-current"?
02:55<rahuldroy>vincent_c: Let me try that
02:55<vincent_c>Sky-Roker: apt-get install nvidia-driver
02:56<vincent_c>rahuldroy: if you're running systemd, try `systemctl disable $service`
02:56<vincent_c>update-rc.d is relevant only for sysvinit
02:56<rahuldroy>I don't have systemd or upstart but I wish I did
02:57<rahuldroy>vincent_c: how do you switch init systems??
02:57<vincent_c>there's nothing particularly difficult about `apt-get install systemd`...
02:57<Sky-Roker>vincent_c: no, no package was found
02:57<vincent_c>Sky-Roker: errr, wheezy, right? Try apt-get install nvidia-glx instead
02:57<vincent_c>nvidia-driver is a metapackage introduced in jessie, iirc
02:58<vincent_c>rahuldroy: also see https://wiki.debian.org/systemd
02:58<rahuldroy>vincent_c: I was just reading that haha
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02:59<vincent_c>rahuldroy: short version is, on jessie/sid, run apt-get install systemd systemd-sysv
02:59<vincent_c>and everything will just work
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03:00<vincent_c>wheezy requires apt-get install systemd and modifying your grub command line to include init=/lib/systemd/systemd and then update-grub
03:00<Sky-Roker>eh, guys, he said that i need to reboot after install AND to add driver to xorg.conf
03:01<Sky-Roker>Reboot it's easy(lol
03:01<Sky-Roker>)
03:01<Sky-Roker>but how to add him to xorg?
03:01<vincent_c>Sky-Roker: apt-get install nvidia-xconfig, then run nvidia-xconfig
03:01<Sky-Roker>thanks
03:02<vincent_c>no problem, glad to help :)
03:02<Sky-Roker>i'm gonna reboot now, can you repeat this late?
03:02<Sky-Roker>*later
03:02<vincent_c>does your irc client not save logs?
03:02<Sky-Roker>i dont now, sorry
03:02<Sky-Roker>i using hexchat
03:03<vincent_c>Sky-Roker: https://hexchat.readthedocs.org/en/latest/faq.html#where-are-the-log-files-saved-to
03:03<vincent_c>everything that's been said here on #debian since you joined the channel should be there
03:03<Sky-Roker>thnx
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03:06<rahuldroy>does anybody know what the status of debian init debate is
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03:06<afsal>vincent_c: i have a doubt where you got these informations??? your answering very quickly :
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03:07<knives47z>is systemd really better than sysV init?
03:07<rahuldroy>upstart and systemd are both better
03:08<knives47z>rahuldroy, how so?
03:08<rahuldroy>I have heard that there is a huge debate going on about which system Debian will use on the next release
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03:09<rahuldroy>https://wiki.debian.org/Debate/initsystem/upstart There is a section for it
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03:12<sky-rocker>guuuys, its Sky-Roker, i need help
03:12<sky-rocker>graphic interface wont start
03:13<sky-rocker>i can access virtual console
03:13<sky-rocker>ctrl-alt-f1
03:13<sky-rocker>and login
03:14<sky-rocker>but graph. in. show only black screen and white line
03:15<afsal>sky-rocker: try startx
03:15<sky-rocker>doesnt work
03:16<afsal>sky-rocker: what is showing?
03:16<sky-rocker>letme take a picture
03:16<afsal>sky-rocker: ok
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03:19<sky-rocker>ghhhh, error, so: fatal server error: no screen found; server terminated with error (1); xinit:unable to connect to x server
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03:22<vincent_c>sky-rocker: pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
03:22<sky-rocker>how...?
03:23<sky-rocker>sorry, i'am real noob
03:23<vincent_c>afsal: what do you mean? nvidia/systemd is because I happen to use them, the hexchat log location was just a quick google search away
03:23<vincent_c>sky-rocker: upload the contents of your /var/log/Xorg.0.log to any pastebin site, e.g. paste.debian.net
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03:24<sky-rocker>man, i have only tablet with this irc and console-only-debian-pc...
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03:25<vincent_c>sky-rocker: either ssh into your pc to grab the log file, or use pastebinit
03:25<sky-rocker>...
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03:26<sky-rocker>real noob, remember? i'l try to load from live usb...
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03:27<vincent_c>sky-rocker: apt-get install pastebinit; cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit -b http://paste.debian.net
03:27<vincent_c>(and of course tell us the address that pastebinit returns...)
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03:31<sky-rocker>paste.debian.net/80965/
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03:33<vincent_c>sky-rocker: errr, that's bad, X attempted to use nouveau and vesa (and failed)...there's no sign of nvidia in that log
03:33<vincent_c>are you sure you actually installed the nvidia packages?
03:34<sky-rocker>i did everything you said to me
03:34<vincent_c>sky-rocker: cat /var/log/apt/history.log | pastebinit -b http://paste.debian.net
03:36<sky-rocker>80966
03:36<sky-rocker>paste.debian.net/80966/
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03:37<vincent_c>sky-rocker: sudo dkms status | pastebinit -b http://paste.debian.net
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03:40<sky-rocker>he returns only paste.debian.net
03:42<vincent_c>err, if you don't have sudo installed, don't use sudo
03:42<sky-rocker>if i do only dkms status, he returns: "nvidia, 304.88, 3.2.0-amd64, x86_64: installed"
03:42<vincent_c>ok, yeah, that was what I was looking for
03:42<sky-rocker>no sudo, i'am using "su"
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03:43<vincent_c>hmm...ok, so you have all the necessary nvidia packages, and dkms did build nvidia for your current kernel...
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03:43<vincent_c>are you sure that your card is supported by the nvidia 304 driver series?
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03:44<vincent_c>sky-rocker: dmesg | pastebinit -b http://paste.debian.net as well, please
03:45<sky-rocker>80968
03:46<vincent_c>ok, yeah, so the nvidia module was loaded, no errors related to that...
03:46<vincent_c>you haven't answered my earlier question yet...do you know if nvidia 304.xx supports your nvidia gpu?
03:47<sky-rocker>maybe i was should to add driver to xconf or what it was before reboot?
03:47<vincent_c>err, what nvidia gpu do you have? check with lspci
03:47<vincent_c>yes, run nvidia-xconfig _before_ you reboot
03:47<sky-rocker>....
03:47<sky-rocker>.........
03:48<vincent_c>just run it now, and reboot
03:48<vincent_c>(I thought that was obvious? sorry...)
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03:48<sky-rocker>command ws not found..
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03:49<sky-rocker>i forget, should i install it first?
03:49<vincent_c><vincent_c> Sky-Roker: apt-get install nvidia-xconfig, then run nvidia-xconfig
03:49<vincent_c>(as of half a hour ago)
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03:52<sky-rocker>he's warned me about unable to locate/open X conf. file and said that he created a new one in /etc/x11/xorg.conf, is it right?
03:53<vincent_c>yes, should be ok
03:53<vincent_c>(unless you manually edited /etc/X11/xorg.conf before and added some other non-nvidia related configuration there, but I doubt you've done so)
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03:53<vincent_c>now go ahead and reboot
03:54<rahuldroy>Hi guys, can you help me with compiling of a package. I have never done this before :(. The two packages are located at http://www.afiestas.org/kscreen-1-0-released/
03:55<sky-rocker>yeah, everything is awesome, thank you and be safe
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03:56<vincent_c>sky-rocker: good to hear
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03:57<vincent_c>rahuldroy: download tarball, install build deps, compile (what you do here depends on upstream's build system), install
03:58<vincent_c>(I have to go to bed now, can't stay around to give more detailed instructions, sorry)
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03:58<rahuldroy>vincent_c: thats for that
03:59<rahuldroy>vincent_c: you can go to bed :) have a safe night
04:01<afsal>rahuldroy: there is a README file on all packages it gives the detail about compiling that package
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04:08<Sky-Roker>Hi again
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04:08<Sky-Roker>Does anybody know, what is repository with Steam? I mean, Valve's steam.
04:08<afsal>Sky-Roker: :)
04:09<Sky-Roker>an how do you write messeges to me? It turn's into green and i got sound
04:09<kblin>Sky-Roker: usually you put the nickname of the person you're talking to in front
04:10<Sky-Roker>kblin: like that?
04:10<kblin>yup
04:10<Sky-Roker>ok, thanks
04:10<Sky-Roker>only question it's about steam repository
04:10<kblin>no idea about steam, though :)
04:10<rahuldroy>afsal: There isn't one :(
04:11<afsal>rahuldroy: which package is that
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04:11<rahuldroy>http://www.afiestas.org/kscreen-1-0-released/
04:12<rahuldroy>This is built into opensuse and the newest versions of Kubuntu
04:12<rahuldroy>afsal: there isn't anything in the debian repositories :(
04:12<afsal>Sky-Roker: you mean steam os
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04:13<kblin>afsal: or the steam client
04:13<Sky-Roker>client
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04:13<Sky-Roker>why he is availble on ubuntu and no on debian -_-
04:13<Nemoder>there is a non-free package in testing for steam
04:14<Nemoder>stable's libc is too old to run it without modification
04:14<rahuldroy>Sky-Roker: https://wiki.debian.org/Steam
04:15<rahuldroy>Sky-Roker: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5LkpR179WQ
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04:20<afsal>rahuldroy: i think it is not a debian supporting package
04:21<rahuldroy>afsal: it is included in Ubuntu...
04:22<rahuldroy>afsal: kubuntu**
04:22<Sky-Roker>anybody, repeat me, how to edit file from console?
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04:22<rahuldroy>Sky-Roker: use vim or nano. E.g. nano something.txt
04:23<Sky-Roker>thnx
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04:23<rahuldroy>Sky-Rocker: you can open a graphical one as well by typing the program name E.g. gedit something.txt
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04:26<afsal>rahuldroy: I'm saying about kscreen :)
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04:28<Sky-Roker>eh, i don't have much files in debian, so, guys, can i install i386 version if i got a EFI pc but without a Win 8 and i can disable secure boot?
04:30<Sky-Roker>oh, look's like it was succesfully
04:30<Sky-Roker>steam install, i mean
04:30<Sky-Roker>thanks everybody
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05:09<afsal_>how to become a debian programmer?
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05:12<devil_>afsal_: it would be a debian developer (DD)
05:13<devil_>afsal_: #debian-mentors can give you more info on the technical process to become a maintainer / developer
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05:13<afsal_>devil_: ok thnks
05:14<Guest656>HIII
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05:14<foggalong>Well that was odd.
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05:23<tsh>hi
05:23<foggalong>hey
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05:27<errorhead>hi, how can i get privoxy to work with chrome. i've tried "google-chrome --proxy-server="localhost:8118" but chrome ignores it
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05:28<valdyn>errorhead: it should probably be "http://localhost:8118"
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05:28<errorhead>tried that to, but it defaults to http without too
05:29<valdyn>errorhead: or the traditional way is setting the "http_proxy" environment variable
05:29<errorhead>hmm ok where do i change that?
05:30<valdyn>errorhead: why dont you set the proxy in chromes settings?
05:30<errorhead>one moment :)
05:31<errorhead>hmm i couldn't
05:31<errorhead>not running any d
05:31<errorhead>desktop environment
05:31<valdyn>errorhead: iirc chrome should display an error or open the desktop environments settings dialog
05:32<valdyn>errorhead: is this googles chrome or the chromium debian package?
05:32<errorhead>i only use ratpoison, it's google chrome
05:32<valdyn>errorhead: ok, not going to install that one, but let me see before i tell you
05:33<errorhead>haha ok :)
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05:38<valdyn>errorhead: how do you know that chromium ignores this?
05:39<valdyn>errorhead: btw, both, settings "http_proxy" and setting "--proxy-server" work for me
05:39<errorhead>google chrome. i'm testing it against a site and with uzbl privoxy works :s
05:39<errorhead>ads dissapear in uzbl but not in chrome
05:40<valdyn>errorhead: thats not a very reliable test
05:40<valdyn>errorhead: you should have a window open running "tcpdump port 8118"
05:41<errorhead>ok hold on :)
05:41<valdyn>errorhead: then you can aswell try "http_proxy=http://localhost:8118/ google-chrome"
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05:42<valdyn>errorhead: then chromium should also complain right away if the proxy is broken
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05:42<valdyn>errorhead: so you can supply a broken proxy string and see that error
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05:44<valdyn>errorhead: make sure you dont access the same site via http on uzbl and via https in chrome
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05:46<errorhead>http both times. hm :) i will have to look at this later
05:47<errorhead>but wouldn't the ads disappear in both uzbl and chrome?
05:47<errorhead>the same ads
05:48<errorhead>it works in iceweasel and uzbl the same
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05:52<errorhead>how can i set privoxy system wide for everything?
05:53<errorhead>wget icewesel etc in one place
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05:57<instigator>Hello. How doe you rename a usb disk in debian? I tried using mlabel but command not found and tried apt-get install but not found
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06:00<Sky-Roker>Hi Again ._.
06:01<Sky-Roker>Can anybody repeat, which repository should i add to list to install drivers?
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06:03<devil_>Sky-Roker: what drivers?
06:03<Sky-Roker>sorry, nvidia drivers.
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06:04<devil_>Sky-Roker: you expand your debian repo with contrib non-free
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06:04<devil_>to make it look like ...main contrib non-free
06:04<Sky-Roker>yes, thats it, so, what string should i add?
06:04<devil_>apt-get update && apt-get install foo
06:04<Sky-Roker>what is foo?
06:04<errorhead>@instigator: for ext2,3,4 =unmount then # e2label /dev/<disk-or-partition> Label (i think)
06:04<devil_>anything
06:04<reza>hi all
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06:10<babilen>Sky-Roker: Which driver do you want to install?
06:10<instigator>errorhead: yeah that worked!thanks
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06:16<Al3xG0>W: GPG error: http://downloads.sourceforge.net all InRelease: The following signatures could not be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY CCC158AFC1289A29 how to solve this problem?
06:16<pieter>q
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06:20<babilen>Al3xG0: That repository has nothing to do with Debian and we neither recommend nor support using third-party repositories. The repository in question should have instructions on how to get hold of their archive signing key.
06:21<Al3xG0>babilen i need install firefox
06:21<Al3xG0>icel trash
06:22<babilen>Al3xG0: Just install Iceweasel which is Firefox as packaged by us. If you need newer versions then get them from http://mozilla.debian.net
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06:24<vegeta>guys
06:25<vegeta>Anybody tried to install steam on 7.3.0 x86?
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06:25<Al3xG0>babilen I want to install firefox pure without icewell
06:26<Sky-Roker>He said that he can't find a bootstrap
06:26<Sky-Roker>Anyone know what to do?
06:26<babilen>Al3xG0: Why?
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06:26<babilen>Sky-Roker: What are you trying to do?
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06:28<Sky-Roker>i installed stable drivers, added unstable repository and installed steam from bash
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06:28<babilen>Oh dear
06:28<Al3xG0>I want to remove iceweasel and firefox installar pure
06:28<Al3xG0>I want to remove iceweasel and firefox install pure
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06:29<babilen>Sky-Roker: Mixing releases is not supported at all and *will* break the system rather sooner than later.
06:29<babilen>Al3xG0: Why?
06:29<Sky-Roker>ok
06:29<Sky-Roker>SO
06:29<Sky-Roker>Can i remove unstable
06:29<Sky-Roker>?
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06:29<Al3xG0>I want to remove iceweasel or install firefox pure
06:29<mjt>or?
06:29<Sky-Roker>just deliting it from souces list and apt-get update and apt-get upgrade?
06:30<Emperador_Yawin>Hi, I have a problem with my Debian server ^__^
06:30<mjt>maybe removing is easier than installing. especially since you can't install without removing anyway :)
06:30<Al3xG0>want to install the native firefox
06:30<babilen>Sky-Roker: You can naturally remove the entries for unstable in your sources.list, but downgrading packages is typically not supported. It *might* work, but there is no guarantee at all. Depending on what you installed from unstable already the system might have to be reinstalled if you want to go back to wheezy. That being said: Tracking testing (jessie) is certainly an option at that point.
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06:30<babilen>Al3xG0: Why?
06:30<babilen>Al3xG0: Seriously: Iceweasel *is* Firefox. It is packaged and supported by us and well integrated into the system.
06:30<Sky-Roker>oh well
06:31<Sky-Roker>i reinstalling my debian for third time...
06:31<Sky-Roker>well, thanks you
06:31<babilen>Sky-Roker: I can't really give further advice without seeing actual output and, maybe, the content of /var/log/apt/history.log on http://paste.debian.net
06:31<Sky-Roker>i wiil be careful later
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06:32<Al3xG0>iceweasel is ripping firefox
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06:32<mjt>heh
06:32<bdog7>Sky-Roker, re-install is best
06:32<babilen>Sky-Roker: Hang on, lets not rush things here. What are you trying to achieve eventually and what is the *exact* problem you are facing right now. Paste applicable output to http://paste.debian.net and provide as many details as you can about what you've done beforehand.
06:32<sreyan32>anyone having problems with security.debian.org ??? because I am getting errors like this. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6902675/
06:33<Sky-Roker>bablein: ok, wait a sekond
06:33<Sky-Roker>second
06:33<sreyan32>any reports of the network mirror in India being down ???
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06:33<babilen>Al3xG0: "ripping" ? But okay: Ask mozilla for help with *their* packages. #debian does only support Iceweasel and I really don't see the point of wanting Firefox given that Iceweasel is FF (modulo the branding) and available in all recent versions too.
06:33<ompaul>Al3xG0: as root, apt-get remove --purge iceweasel then you will be able to run the other - stick it in /user/local/bin/firefox and then you have to apply paths to it, good luck with that
06:34<sreyan32>I can't update apt because I can't connect to security.debian.org
06:34<babilen>Sky-Roker: Most IRC clients let you autocomplete nicknames. Try "bab<TAB>" and see if that works.
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06:34<Sky-Roker>babilen: thanks
06:34<ompaul>Al3xG0: and then anything that doesn't work with firefox is your problem and not supported here as babilen pointed out ;-)
06:34<Sky-Roker>babilen: so, please, wait,
06:35<babilen>Sky-Roker: Sure take your time (i'm grabbing a coffee and will be back shortly)
06:35<ompaul>sreyan32: which one
06:35<sreyan32>ompaul, I am in Indian I cannot access security.debian.org. Check this please http://paste.ubuntu.com/6902675/
06:35<sreyan32>i am in India sorry
06:36<ompaul>sreyan32: put http://security.debian.org into your browser
06:36<sreyan32>also tried accessing security.debian.org from my browser and came up with a 404 error.
06:36<ompaul>sreyan32: that is your network providers problem it is visible from here
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06:37<sreyan32>ompaul, I put the requested URL but i got redirected to http://www.debian.org/security/
06:37<ompaul>sreyan32: that is correct
06:37<ompaul>in your sources it is the other
06:37<Sky-Roker>babilen: http://paste.debian.net/80974/
06:38<Sky-Roker>is it right?
06:38<ompaul>sreyan32: btw the paste.debian.net is in my eyes a lot cleaner
06:38<sreyan32>ompaul, can you access http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates/contrib ??
06:38<sreyan32>ompaul, can't paste there since my Ip was somehow blacklisted
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06:39<sreyan32>http://security.debian.org/wheezy/updates/contrib
06:39<sreyan32>sorry
06:39<sreyan32>I am coming up with a 404 error.
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06:40<ompaul>sreyan32: give me a moment please
06:41<sreyan32>ompaul, sure
06:42<sreyan32>ompaul, best thing is that can you run a apt-update now and tell me if everything is working fne on your end ?
06:42<ompaul>sreyan32: I have just used one of my wheezy boxed apt-get update apt-get dupgrade worked
06:42<ompaul>sreyan32: successful at get:5 http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates/main libavcodec53 amd64 6:0.8.10-1 [2,514 kB]
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06:43<sreyan32>ompaul, thanks for confirming
06:43<sreyan32>ompaul, guess its just me.
06:43<ompaul>sreyan32: no, it is your network, try a traceroute
06:44<sreyan32>ompaul, traceroute security.debian.org ??? is the command correct ?
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06:44<ompaul>that will do
06:44<ompaul>sreyan32: assuming you have traceroute installed and are root
06:45<sreyan32>ompaul, okay let me get back to you. hopefully i have traceroute and yeah i am root.
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06:45<sreyan32>ompaul, thanks for the help
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06:46<Sky-Roker>babilen: so?
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06:47<babilen>Sky-Roker: sorry telephone
06:47<Sky-Roker>babilen: http://paste.debian.net/80974/
06:48<Sky-Roker>babilen: ok, i'm not late
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06:57<Sky-Roker>better to reinstal, i think...
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07:09<eugecm_>I just recently upgraded some X packages and I get segmentation faults sometimes when using skype since then, anyone know why? Here's a log http://paste.debian.net/80976/
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07:09<eugecm_>just to be clear, X server is the one that segfaults, not skype
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07:12<eugecm_>and it happens mostly when alt-tabbing to an open videocall
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07:13<marcus>Hello, I've got a problem with debian jessie: Shortly after I login, the desktop does not respont to muose clicks and - i think - mouse-over events. When I switch to a console an back vereything work fine again. I'm not sure it that is an already known bug... Doe anybody have a solution?
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07:25<rahuldroy>marcus: are you using gnome?
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07:27<marcus>Yey, gnome3 - actually the default install with debian jessie.
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07:29<OdyX>it's xfce actually…
07:29<MarkPaul>Excuse me, would anyone confirm that my message is visible, please?
07:30<OdyX>MarkPaul: it is
07:30<themill>MarkPaul: it isn't
07:30<MarkPaul>Thanks both of you
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07:44<Sky-Roker>babilen: are you still here?
07:44<Sky-Roker>babilen: i reinstalled debian, so, what should i do to install steam correctly?
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07:51<Sky-Roker>Anybody know how to install steam on 7.3 debian x86 without using unstable?
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08:07<Hicks_>Sky-Roker: Someone posted a way to do it on github that packaged up the libs stream uses, but whether you're willing to trust the binaries, not sure I would :)
08:07<Hicks_>You can likely replicate it yourself though if you can find suitable libs in the debian archives.
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08:19<mjt>what is a way to turn off software updates checking in gnome once for all users of the system, to disable it entirely?
08:19<mjt>I thought it is update-manager-gnome
08:19<mjt>update-manager-gnome:
08:19<mjt>but it isn't instaled
08:20<themill>that was last week's way; there's a packagekit way this week
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08:21<mjt>um
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08:23<themill>(gnome-packagekit and friends)
08:23<mjt>gnome-packagekit isn't installed either
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08:23<mjt>heh
08:24<mjt>oh. it is. n/m
08:24<lostson>zcpe1704tks*
08:24<mjt>looked at the wrong window
08:24<themill>lostson: New UNIX Password:
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08:24<mjt>thank you themill
08:25<themill>np
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08:29<lavamind>mjt: check org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.updates in dconf
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08:53<senolc_eht>hi..
08:54<SynrG>!ask
08:54<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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08:58<senolc_eht>i want to know if i can use advance atv-690fm (usb tv tuner) in debian.
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09:21<bunker>hi
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09:42<solar_sea>Hi. I'm trying to download a debian iso, but all links (direct, torrent, jigdo) result in an not found error. Are there any mirrors for these files ?
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09:43<abrotman>solar_sea: such as which URL?
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09:44<solar_sea>abrotman: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.4.0/i386/bt-dvd/
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09:44<abrotman>http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.3.0/i386/bt-dvd/ seem to be there
09:44<abrotman>the 7.4 images aren't all done yet
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09:47<solar_sea>The stable links on the site redirect to them. I see, thanks
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09:48<abrotman>it iwll be updated later today if you can wait
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10:06<CuZnDragon>Hello, question is there a trick to getting vsftpd working correctly with pam? This is the first time I have installed debian and I had vsftpd working fine when I compiled it myself but didn't use pam.
10:07<abrotman>I think it's a config optoin you have to set
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10:09<CuZnDragon>I have gone through all the vsftpd config options. I have also searched for fixes that others had but none of them worked. I have even tried recompiling the package with pam disabled but it gets an error of sysdeputil.c:295: undefined reference to `crypt'
10:10<CuZnDragon>It runs but won't allow any local users to log in.
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10:11<mjt>vsftpd always worked with pam on debian out of the box for me
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10:17<mjt>is there a way to blacklist _all_ pci modules of a given type (say, any vga drivers)?
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10:18<mjt>like blacklist pci:*bc03* -- base class 3 = vga
10:18<mjt>(this doesn't work)
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10:29<cae>did someone break paste.d.n? I'm getting errors for snippets I uploaded some month ago
10:29<cae>"Entry was not found in database"
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10:30<cae>and the /download_h/ and /plan_h/ links throw 404
10:30<mjt>why should you not get the errors?
10:30<mjt>what time did you specify for the ttl?
10:30<mjt>by default the pastes are kept for 24 hours
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10:32<cae>mjt: "forever", I think (I posted the code to a debian* forum, I'm pretty sure I changed this setting)
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10:33<mjt>well, that error message is thrown when you try to access a non-existing paste, either expired or never existing, that doesn't matter.
10:35<cae>ok, I just did some test posts... it looks like the expire date was set wronge back then
10:35<cae>just like you suggested, mjt. So... layer8 error ;-) Thanks for your thoughts
10:36<mjt>you're welcome
10:36<CuZnDragon>humm looks like it has the -lcrypto instead of -lcrypt in the rules.
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10:37<mjt>it needs -lcrypto for ssl
10:38<CuZnDragon>humm so maybe it needs both? as it fail to compile with -lcrypto but does compile with -lcrypt
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10:41<CuZnDragon>recompiling with -lcrypt instead of -lcrypto and removing the pam compile options worked I can now login vsftpd with local users.
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10:47<CuZnDragon>changed that to just adding -lcrypt works also. Not sure why pam is not working with vsftpd though.
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10:49<mjt>apparently no one test vsftp compile without pam for a very long time
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11:01<CuZnDragon>It was failing even with pam enabled without the -lcrypt
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11:02<CuZnDragon>but even adding the -lcrypt if pam in enabled it fails to login.
11:02<CuZnDragon>s/in/is
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11:11<catali>Hello!
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11:11<catali>Hello!
11:12<musca>yes catali
11:12<catali>Hello musca!
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11:13<musca>catali: welcome, but we are too many users in this channel for extended greeting sessions.
11:15<catali>musca: you are a boy or a girl?
11:16<musca>i hope so, but we are only discussing debian linux support questions in this channel, see the topic.
11:17<catali>I just want to know if you are a boy or a girl?
11:18<planetmaker>hehe, nice arguing with logic :)
11:18<MrFrood>catali: this is a support channel not a social channel
11:19<catali>I know it is not a social channel, but first wanted to know who he was talking to resolve my doubts ...
11:20<musca>catali: Just imagine me as a grumpy old man with a beard.
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11:20<catali>What?
11:21<MrFrood>musca: how do you know what I look like :P
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11:21<mtn>we all look like that :P
11:22<catali>All you resemble when you are stupid
11:22<mtn>heh
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11:23<MrFrood>catali: most of those offering support here are long time debian users, and if "newer" users are giving support you can be sure that an eye is being kept on what is posted by those with more expeirience
11:23<MrFrood>!ask
11:23<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
11:23<sney>well, usually
11:23<MrFrood>catali: ^^^
11:24<sney>whoosh
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11:25<catali> whoosh?
11:25<catali>you are a idiot!
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11:26<MrFrood>catali: talk like that could get you banned, keep it civil and if you have a support question ask
11:27<abrotman>...
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11:27<abrotman>Figured ..
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12:33<diego21>hi everybody. I installed a debian 7 in a new computer. It has a motherboard Asus X79 Deluxe, and I can't set up the wifi card.
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12:34<diego21>the card is a Broadcom 43b (rev. 3)
12:35<towo`>install the missing firmware
12:35<diego21>I tried folliwing several tutorials from internet
12:36-!-annodomini [~lambda@000161aa.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: annodomini]
12:36<diego21>and Is weird, because I installed Mint 16 before debian, and everything worked ok
12:38<diego21>Linux Mint is based on Ubuntu, right? and Ubuntu is based on Debian, right? So, what am I missing?
12:38<Naturesh1dow>diego21: that Debian is a free OS and Ubuntu is not ... and, obviously, towos advice :)
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12:39<diego21>I know Naturesh1dow, I mean that Debian Wheezy should recongnize my devices better than Ubuntu
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12:40<towo`>diego21, debian does not ship non-free firmware
12:41<diego21>then it's impossible to install my device? :O
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12:41<diego21>should I back to Linux Mint :(
12:41<diego21>I like Debian
12:41<towo`>install the firmware
12:41<towo`>what'S hard in this?
12:41<diego21>I cant find it
12:42<towo`>add contrib and non-free to your sources
12:42<towo`>and read some debian docu
12:42<diego21>they are added
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12:43<towo`>http://pastebin.com/QV21CLAt
12:43<towo`>i find the firmware
12:43<towo`>what now?
12:43<planetmaker>install it?
12:44<diego21>I installed b43 and brcm80211
12:44<brihat>diego21: did u try this? http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43
12:44<towo`>i do not have the problem
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12:44<diego21>yea brihat
12:44<diego21>:(
12:45<brihat>what is the PCI ID?
12:45<brihat>lspci -vnn -d 14e4:
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12:45<diego21>whait a moment please
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12:51<brihat>diego21: just run the command "lspci -vvnn | grep 14e4" and paste its output here
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13:00<diego21>09:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation Device [14e4:43b1] (rev 03)
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13:01<musca>,pciid 14e4:43b1
13:01<judd>[14e4:43b1] is 'BCM4352 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter' from 'Broadcom Corporation' with no known kernel module in wheezy or in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=14e4:43b1
13:01<musca>isnogood :(
13:02<diego21>:O
13:02<diego21>:(
13:02<diego21>impossible then?
13:02<Naturesh1dow>diego21: sounds like ndiswrapper, then
13:02<abrotman>dpkg: bcm43b1
13:02<dpkg>abrotman: i don't know
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13:02*abrotman looks at gsimmons
13:02<abrotman>oh
13:02<abrotman>dpkg: bcm4352
13:02<dpkg>abrotman: bugger all, i dunno
13:02<abrotman>still not good
13:03<diego21>Naturesh1dow: ndiswrapper?
13:03<Naturesh1dow>diego21: you can, as a last resort, use a Windows network driver with ndiswrapper
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13:04<Naturesh1dow>But first, maybe find out how Ubuntu does that
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13:06<diego21>guys, if you don't know how to do it... ill neve find out how :(
13:06<diego21>you are debian experts
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13:07<diego21>I'm just a newie
13:07<diego21>towo`: I can't find openfwwf in synaptic
13:07<Naturesh1dow>diego21: Which does not mean you cannot read about things yourself ;) ... ok, give me a minute
13:08<diego21>that's what I try, but it's not easy for a novice in debian
13:08<brihat>Ok, i figured out that Ubuntu actually uses bcmwl-kernel-source package for this card
13:09<brihat>this packages doesnt seem to be in debian repos apparently
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13:10<sreyan32>i just installed nvidia-glx. But it showed that i had to configure it in xorg.conf. now my card is pretty new. is should'nt happen right ??
13:10<Naturesh1dow>diego21: ok, it appears you need the proprietary broadcom driver named wl in Debian
13:11<sreyan32>ompaul, thanks i solved the error regarding sources.list
13:11<Naturesh1dow>diego21: do you have the non-free part of the repo enabled?
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13:11<diego21>yea, tried wl
13:11<brihat>diego21: ah right, debian calls it broadcom-sta-common
13:11<ompaul>sreyan32: some typo?
13:11<sreyan32>ompaul, yup u got that right
13:12<diego21>tried that too brihat
13:12<diego21>:(
13:12<Naturesh1dow>broadcom-sta-dkms
13:12<Naturesh1dow>diego21: you do:
13:12<sreyan32>ompaul, hey is it normal for a new nvidia card to be NOT detected by nvidia glx ??
13:12<brihat>diego21: did u blacklist other drivers after installing broadcom-sta- ?
13:12<diego21>how? :O
13:13<ompaul>sreyan32: no idea I'm intel only
13:13<sreyan32>ompaul, ohh
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13:13<ompaul>!tell sreyan32 about nvidia
13:13<sreyan32>does anyone know how to create a xorg.cong file ???
13:13<ompaul>sreyan32: read that link the bot sent you
13:13<sreyan32>ompaul, didnt get any output from a bot
13:13<ompaul>sreyan32: you should see seomthing from dpkg
13:14<ompaul>sreyan32: anyway here you go - the right way to do the wrong drivers http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers
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13:14<sreyan32>ompaul, nopes didn't get anything. I am on xchat if that makes any difference
13:15<Naturesh1dow>apt-get install broadcom-sta-dkms
13:15<Naturesh1dow>modprobe -r b44 b43 b43legacy ssb brcmsmac
13:15<Naturesh1dow>modprobe wl
13:15<Naturesh1dow>have you already tried this?
13:15<Naturesh1dow>if that does not work, then you will have to fall back to NDISWrapper, as described here: https://wiki.debian.org/NdisWrapper
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13:15<ompaul>sreyan32: it shouldn't see that lin
13:15<brihat>diego21: let's see what modules you've loaded as of now. What's the output of lsmod | egrep "brcmsmac|ssb|wl|b43|bcma" ? (pastebin it if long output)
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13:17<diego21>nothing brihat
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13:17<diego21>empty output
13:17<Naturesh1dow>pardon?
13:17<Naturesh1dow>I never said anything right before debhelper kicked me :D
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13:17<diego21>I have it clean
13:18<diego21>when I try something, I leaft it clean if doesn't work
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13:18<mtn>Naturesh1dow: sure you did, 5 lines worth
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13:22<brihat>diego21: ok, i'm not sure if i can help more. modprobe wl should've done it
13:23<Naturesh1dow>mtn: that was at least a whole minute before I was kicked
13:23<mtn>Naturesh1dow: didn't look like it to us. same time, pretty much.
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13:23<brihat>diego21: what kernel are u using (uname -r)
13:23<Naturesh1dow>then the connection seems to be laggy
13:24<mtn>Naturesh1dow: anyway, don't put so many lines at one time
13:24<diego21>im triying using apt-get brihat
13:24<diego21>installing briadcom-sta-dkms
13:24<diego21>as Naturesh1dow said
13:24<brihat>what's the output of "uname -r" ?
13:24<diego21>3.2.0-4-amd64
13:26<diego21>after type "apt-get install broadcom-sta-dkms" throws several W
13:26<diego21>W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8168f-2.fw for module r8169
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13:26<diego21>like this one
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13:27<Naturesh1dow>diego21: you can ignore that
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13:28<Naturesh1dow>diego21: did you run the two modprobe commands, then?
13:29<diego21>http://pastebin.com/8i8QRj8e
13:29<diego21>yea
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13:29<diego21>and restart network-manager
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13:30<Naturesh1dow>diego21: so now, what does iwconfig say?
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13:31<diego21>one thing, I'm not the admin user
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13:31<diego21>I'm in sudoers file
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13:32<diego21>but i cant access to admin commands like I always do in other Linux distros
13:32<diego21>could that be related with my problem?
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13:32<diego21>maybe the firmware is only available for root user
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13:33<diego21>Naturesh1dow: http://pastebin.com/1jQCPfXW
13:34<Naturesh1dow>diego21: what do you mean "i cant access t oadmin commands"?
13:34<Naturesh1dow>You just ran apt-get ...
13:34<diego21>i need sudo
13:34<diego21>or open a root terminal
13:34<Naturesh1dow>of course
13:35<Naturesh1dow>that's not different in other distributions
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13:35<diego21>yea, in ubuntu or mint, I could type "iwconfig"
13:35<diego21>here, I need "sudo iwconfig"
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13:35<Naturesh1dow>/sbin/iwconfig
13:36<Naturesh1dow>that's not a matter of a roto shell, but of $PATH
13:36<diego21>/usr/bin is not in my path
13:36<Naturesh1dow>yes it is
13:36<Naturesh1dow>unless you did something extremely wrong
13:36<Naturesh1dow> /sbin and /usr/sbin aren't
13:36<Naturesh1dow>In any case: please try the ndiswrapper approach.
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13:37<Naturesh1dow>I have to leave. cya
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13:37<diego21>your are right, echo $PATH says
13:37<diego21>/home/diego/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games
13:37<diego21>ok, thanks Naturesh11dow
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13:44<Moneytalks>hello, i have a debian vps and I'm trying to install a game server... 9/10 times a directory or a file is missing, do you have any idea whats goin on? :/
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13:45<planetmaker>that needs more info, Moneytalks. What do you try to install exactly and how. And what's the exact error you get?
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13:49<Moneytalks>i try to install a counter strike server... I have tryed some different tutorials, I follow exactly the steps but the most of the times something is missing
13:49<Moneytalks>but as i said before sometimes the install is correct
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13:51<Moneytalks>i can give you the link of a tutorial to check the steps by yourself
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13:53<planetmaker>and what is the actual error you get? 'some file missing' is not exactly an accurate error description
13:54<Moneytalks>yes... directory is missing, file is missing
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13:54<Moneytalks>everytime something different is missing lol
13:54<planetmaker>then use a paste service and paste the complete output
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14:55<WopsS>Hi, how can I remove all packeges file when I do apt-get remove?
14:55<Maulkin>WopsS: apt-get remove --purge <package>
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14:56<WopsS>I do it, but it don't delete file complety ...
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14:56<andreasj>WopsS: Which file?
14:57<WopsS>bind
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14:57<andreasj>WopsS: What exactly is left that you need to remove?
14:58<andreasj>maybe the files belong to some other package or are not part of any package at all
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14:58<WopsS>zone file..
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14:59<andreasj>you created that one yourself?
14:59<WopsS>yes
14:59<andreasj>then you need to delete it yourself, too
15:00<WopsS>a, ok :)
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15:02<WopsS>in var exist a folder named "named"?
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15:06<WopsS>how can I remove an enabled site?
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15:07<WopsS>sorry^^
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15:11<abrotman>WopsS: a2dissite
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15:27<WopsS>why i get Permission denied, if I use sudo or not
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15:27<abrotman>doing what?
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15:28<WopsS>sudo rm -rf www
15:29<abrotman>wtf, why would you want to?
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15:29<WopsS>I want to delete it. After I will recreate it
15:30<abrotman>why would you do it that way?
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15:31<WopsS>this is only way I know :(
15:32<abrotman>What are you actually trying to do?
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15:33<WopsS>to delete all www folder maked by ispconfig
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15:35<abrotman>why not just remove the package?
15:35<WopsS>i remoed
15:35<WopsS>removed, but the ww file don-t deleted
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16:05<jmalone1024>Coming from a M$ development world. Trying to figure out where I could be most useful in helping with debian. Any one have any advice?
16:06<Lightkey>systemd
16:06*Lightkey runs
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16:06<jmalone1024>Language background in c, c++, java, python, and .net.
16:06<ompaul>jmalone1024: what tickles your fancy
16:07<ompaul>jmalone1024: actually head over to
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16:07<jmalone1024>Games and systems work.
16:07<ompaul>!mentors
16:07<dpkg>it has been said that mentors is the system the Debian project uses to train new people to become Debian Developers or Debian Maintainers and get their packages into the Debian archive. Ask me about <nmg>. http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/ http://mentors.debian.net/ #debian-mentors on irc.debian.org (irc.oftc.net).
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16:07<Lightkey>#debian-games too
16:07<ompaul>that too
16:07<jmalone1024>cool thanks I'll check that out.
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16:36<LtL>for those interested the following URL contains a more in depth description of point release 7.4 « http://paste.debian.net/81055/ »
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16:48<abrotman>LtL: /topic , it's already there
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16:49<awal>In the Ltl's paste I see "linux: Update to stable 3.2.54; update drm" does this closes http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=685108 or is not related with?
16:49<LtL>abrotman: woops, i rarely part/join. my mistake
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16:49<mjt>why do you think that it closes that bug while that bug is NOT closed?
16:50<abrotman>but .. it .. the ..
16:50<mjt>not even by current unstable..
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16:50<awal>so just asking...bcuz it affect me
16:50<mjt>you can't read? :)
16:50<LtL>abrotman: kudos for updating the /topic
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16:51<WopsS>can I make vhost on nginx?
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16:53<awal>mjt: hard to explain...but nobody in all the web was able to explain me what the Error message on each boot: [drm:intel_dsm_platform_mux_info] really means
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16:53<awal> Error message on each boot: [drm:intel_dsm_platform_mux_info] *ERROR* MUX INFO call failed
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16:54<abrotman>awal: look for a BIOS update
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16:56<awal>abrotman: I have a new Dell laptop; have the latest bios and the error is shown in three different laptops....so dont really know if is related with bios
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16:56<abrotman>awal: what is uname -r ?
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16:57<abrotman>actually, uname -a might be more significaant
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17:00<awal>abrotman: sorry but now I'm running Jessie in the Dell laptop with kernel 3.12. The error is shown just in Wheezy/ kernel 3.2 ( when whhezy was installed before). I have not access to my wheeezy machine (Lenovo laptop and the error is shown under wheezy kernel 3.2).
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17:02<awal>i mean the error is only shown with kernel 3.2 (wheezy); kernel 3.12 not.
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17:04<abrotman>ppwhat?
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17:05<awal>abrotman: my english is too bad; you nounderstand what i said?
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17:05<awal>;(
17:06<abrotman>no :)
17:06<abrotman>You're saying the error is gone with jessie?
17:07<awal>yes
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17:08<awal>under wheezy (kernel 3.2) on each boot this message is displayed "[drm:intel_dsm_platform_mux_info] *ERROR* MUX INFO call failed"
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17:09<abrotman>and if you use wheezy with a backports kernel ?
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17:10<awal>I tryed backports kernel and had a lot of problems with backlight and pulseaudio so removed it.
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17:11<awal>but as i said the error is not displayed with newer kernels , as in jessie
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17:14<awal>abrotman: if you curious about the error see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=846382
17:14<abrotman>so what problem are you trying to solve?
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17:16<awal>so in my other wheezy laptop (is a Lenovo) I still get the error on each boot and dont know what the error really mean. Sadlly, I have no access to the wheezy machine now
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17:39<twb>Anybody know offhand if mono stuff has a problem being installed in a chroot? http://sprunge.us/NQVE is what I'm seeing; I'm guessing it's similar to the problem where java wants /proc/ for /proc/self/exe
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17:47<WopsS>why when I connect to phpmyadmin nginx redirect me to /index.php?etc no /phpmyadmin/index.php?
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17:59<twb>stracing showed that mono refuses to work unless /proc is mounted -- one of the higher layers throws away that warning.
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18:00<mmavipc>Whenever I try to reboot, the computer hangs after kde/x shuts down. Not sure if it syncs the disks or not, so my solution for now is to spam sync and then shutdown and hard power it off after it hangs
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18:15<twb>MMavipc: if shutdown works and reboot doesn't, you could just shutdown
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18:19<MMavipc>twb: neither work
18:20<MMavipc>anytime X/KDE shuts down and it has to return to a console it hangs
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18:20<twb>What happens if you just stop your display manager?
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18:21<MMavipc>it hangs
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18:24<twb>But doing ctrl+alt+f1 to switch to tty works?
18:25<MMavipc>give me a sec
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18:26<MMavipc>ctrl+alt+f1 works... weird
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18:26<MMavipc>let me experiment a bit more
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18:32<DrZitto>buenas tardes
18:32<DrZitto>alguien ahi que me pueda ayudar con mi linux?
18:32<abrotman>!es
18:32<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
18:33<DrZitto> /join #debian-es
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18:35<embrik>does anybody know about google and adsense and youtube and advertising?
18:36<embrik>my son thinks he has done something stupid and that google can claim him for money, and I don't know how to find out
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18:39<twb>embrik: sounds like a question for -offtopic
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18:45<diego21>I have a problem with my wheezy. I updated some packages, and now I cant update cinnamon. Show a lot of broken dependecies. For example, Depends: libc6 (>=2.14) but 2.13-38+deb7u1 will be installed
18:45<diego21>what can I do?? Can I back to previous version?
18:45<twb>http://bugs.debian.org/738495 (re mono)
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18:46<embrik>twb, I know - don't know where to go with my problem
18:46<diego21>Should I updated something?
18:46<diego21>I'm lost :(
18:47<mtn>diego21: I didn't think cinnamon was in wheezy. Is it?
18:47<twb>diego21: that sounds like you have mixed wheezy and jessie
18:47<twb>That is a Bad Thing
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19:01<wdoodle_>will a binary compiled for 2.6.xx run on 2.6.yy
19:02<twb>Probably
19:02<twb>Why do you ask?
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19:03<wdoodle_>have a debian based NAS with a 2.6.33 kernel. I'm looking at converting an rpm with a binary blob to deb and installing on the NAS
19:03<wdoodle_>the bin blob was compiled for 2.6.16
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19:04<B13B>does anyone here know how to switch from an EFI boot mode to a BIOS emulated boot mode on a mac?
19:05<MMavipc>I'm having trouble getting hdmi audio working, it's showing up in the mixer but I'm not able to hear anything. lspci : http://pastebin.com/DVJEV1Zi
19:05<B13B>i need the proprietary nvidia drivers, which apparently dont work with EFI mode
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19:09<jeremy_>Hi, I've got troubles with my USB thumb-drive. After formatting it, it is no longer detected. Here are some CLI outputs
19:09<jeremy_>http://pastebin.com/UEdJp3DE
19:09<MMavipc>I'm on the wheezy-backports 3.12 amd64 kernel
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19:10<jeremy_>would anyone have an idea of how to get it to mount? GParted does not see it either
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19:43<spence>'lo all. Was trying to download the debian live install via bittorrent but got an error; is it just me?
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19:47<twb>wdoodle_: the kernel won't be an issue
19:47<twb>wdoodle_: but the different libc or libraries might be
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20:00<\shawn>spence, i just downloaded it no error
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20:00<spence>alright I'll poke around a little more on my end thanks!
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20:06<dariojairo>halojaaa
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20:09<GyrosGeier>hi
20:09<GyrosGeier>I have a sparse file
20:10<GyrosGeier>1 TB size, 20 GB used
20:10<petn-randall>!enter
20:10<dpkg>The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel.
20:10<GyrosGeier>what is the sanest way to transport it from one box to another?
20:11<themill>GyrosGeier: both tar and rsync can handle sparse files
20:11<abrotman>also, hello?
20:11*GyrosGeier tries tar
20:13<twb>Tho rsync does not by default
20:13<LtL>.
20:15<GyrosGeier>rsync seems to hit a limit for me
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20:15<twb>rsync -S buddy
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20:15<GyrosGeier>indeed
20:15<GyrosGeier>but I still get 78 MB/s only, constant over the entire file
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20:16<GyrosGeier>hmm
20:17<GyrosGeier>tar seems to scan the entire file first
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20:18<Fenhl>Hello. I know how to get the Debian version number currently on the local system (`lsb_release -r`), but is there a way to get the latest verion number that's out there?
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20:19<Fenhl>I don't mind if I have to parse a downloaded file or something, it just needs to be machine-readable
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20:19<themill>Fenhl: can I ask what you're *really* trying to do?
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20:20<GyrosGeier>Fenhl, the "Release" file contains that
20:20<Fenhl>themill: check it against the local version number and send me a notification if it's different
20:20<GyrosGeier>but that is per-codename
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20:21<GyrosGeier>Fenhl, I'd go with per-package lists for that
20:21<themill>Fenhl: security updates get pushed out independent of the version number so monitoring the output of "apt-get update; aptitude search ~U" (or using something like cron-apt) might be better
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20:22<Fenhl>I know that and I already do that. I want additional info when the version number changes
20:22<themill>(In answer to you original question, «wget -q http://http.debian.net/debian/dists/stable/Release -O- | sed -n 's/Version: //p'» but I'm unconvinced that's testing for the right thing)
20:23<themill>If you're already applying security updates, then there's (almost) nothing all to do when a point release comes out
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20:23<themill>s/all/more/
20:23<GyrosGeier>Fenhl, you could simply subscribe to the debian-announce mailing list, where point releases are announced
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20:24<abrotman>and/or debian-stable-announce
20:24<themill>If you're already keeping apt's indexes up to date then you don't even need to get the number from Release, because you have that file on disk,... and aptitude search ~U or cron-apt would give you a list of packages
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20:27<dariojairo>halojaaa
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20:27<themill>!ubuntu-es dariojairo
20:27<dpkg>dariojairo: Ubuntu esta basado en Debian, pero no es Debian, y dificilmente tendra los estandares de Debian. Solo Debian es soportado en #debian. Por favor conectese a #ubuntu-es en chat.freenode.net Ahi recibira mas soporte.
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20:28<dariojairo>aja y como me conecto a eso si soy nuevo en esto
20:28<rostam>HI I am using debmirror to create a local depository for our lab. How can I mirror the packages in launchpad
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20:29<themill>dariojairo: /server chat.freenode.net ; /join #ubuntu-es
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20:37<bugtraq>hi
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20:38<diego21>is it possible to delete deb7u1 packages from my packages list?
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20:39<themill>diego21: can you give an example of what you want?
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20:40<diego21>this evening I installed an updated libc6 version for my wheezy. But it throw up a lot of boken packages
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20:40<diego21>dont know why
20:41<diego21>I just want to aviod that
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20:41<themill>diego21: can you pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy libc6; apt-cache policy; apt-get -f install" for us?
20:42<diego21>i dont have it anymore, had to reinstall a new wheezy :(
20:43<themill>didn't try to install steam or something like that in wheezy did you?
20:45<diego21>no, just open synaptic and install updatables packages
20:45<diego21>there was a lot of them
20:46<themill>Had you edited your sources.list?
20:47<twb>Don't forget sources.list.d/* also
20:47<diego21>few weeks ago
20:47<diego21>first time i installed wheezy
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21:41<mmavipc>Anyone know what would cause audio to work inconsistently in kde? If it works, it works for the entire session, but if it doesn't work, it never works until it magically does after many "service kdm restart"
21:42<mmavipc>I'm not sure of what the relevant log files would be, so if someone could point me in the right direction that'd be great
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21:43<Arrowmaster>using pulseaudio or just alsa
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21:44<twb>mmavipc: Arrowmaster asked you a question, he just forgot the '?' and the 'are you' :-)
21:45<mmavipc>no idea, I just recently installed off of the kde live cd, how do I check?
21:45<Arrowmaster>ps -e | grep pulseaudio
21:46<mmavipc>yep, it's running
21:46<Arrowmaster>hmm ok then that idea was wrong
21:46<twb>Arrowmaster: FYI, "pgrep pulseaudio"
21:46<mmavipc> 0 [MID ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel MID
21:46<mmavipc> HDA Intel MID at 0xf0830000 irq 52
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21:47<mmavipc>that's /proc/asound/cards
21:47<Arrowmaster>twb: yeah i didnt remember if that was installed by default
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21:48<chealer>!tell mmavipc about doesn't work
21:49<mmavipc>when it isn
21:49<mmavipc>when it isn't working no sound comes out, but the card still shows up in the volume control
21:49<mmavipc>I can change it's volume, but it has no effect
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21:52<chealer>mmavipc: how did you test?
21:52<twb>mmavipc: change its volume in pamixer or alsamixer
21:53<mmavipc>twb: it's at 100 in alsamixer, still no luck
21:53<mmavipc>chealer: playing an audio clip through VLC
21:53<mmavipc>and trying youtube
21:54<chealer>mmavipc: did you try a KDE application, such as Amarok?
21:54<twb>Should check it's not muted, too :-)
21:54<mmavipc>twb: pacmd list-sinks shows it as not muted
21:55<twb>I meant in alsamixer. I can't support pa layer, sorry
21:55<mmavipc>how do I check in alsamixer?
21:55<twb>alsamixer probably has like 40 channels to tweak
21:55<twb>You run "alsamixer" in a terminal
21:55<Arrowmaster>mmavipc: check the vlc settings and make sure its outputting to pulseaudio and not alsa
21:55<twb>It has "OO" when its on an "MM" when muted
21:55<twb>Mostly, you want to set everything to about 80% and unmuted, but it all depends on your card
21:56<twb>e.g. I have controls like "mix left channel into right channel" which should be off :-)
21:56<mmavipc>it's on
21:56<mmavipc>http://i.imgur.com/yZHHFaN.png is what I see
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21:58<twb>Oops, an image.
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21:58*twb switches to an image thinger
21:58<twb>mmavipc: yes, but that's only one channel
21:58<twb>Oh... alsamixer is probably looking at the pulseaudio "card"
21:58<mmavipc>Arrowmaster: vlc was set to default, I set it to pulseaudio, but no dice
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22:00<mmavipc>Arrowmaster: just tried amarok, no dice
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22:03<mmavipc>brb I'm going to try restarting kdm again
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22:04<mmavipc>still nothing...
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22:07<andreas>Hello
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22:08<phlato>Hi
22:08<dodobirdie> phlato sup ?
22:08<chealer>mmavipc: what happens when you try amarok? does the position slider go forward?
22:08<mmavipc>also, probably relevant, the audio is over hdmi
22:08<mmavipc>chealer: give me a sec
22:08<phlato>looking for problem I can solve ;)
22:08<mmavipc>chealer: yes it does
22:09<andreas>I may have a problem
22:10<andreas>Is there any way when you install .deb packages that the dependencies if availible are automatically downloaded?
22:10<dodobirdie> phlato sweet ! I've been running into some issues booting up Debian on my iMac after installation - looked it up on the wiki and this is what I found : https://wiki.debian.org/iMacIntel#Video
22:10<Arrowmaster>andreas: gdebi
22:11<andreas>gdebi?
22:11<Arrowmaster>its an app
22:11<andreas>oh i see
22:12<phlato>dodobirde: have you done all steps that are in there?
22:12<chealer>mmavipc: does the problem affect only KDE or the whole system?
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22:13<mmavipc>chealer: there's nothing else on the system that uses audio
22:13<dodobirdie>up to this point : radeon.modeset=0 and then I boot and it just goes black like usually
22:13<dodobirdie>actually always
22:14<chealer>mmavipc: well, do a test
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22:15<phlato>aaand?
22:16<dodobirdie>and that's it - it just goes black
22:17<mmavipc>chealer: aplay inside konsole appears to work, but no audio. aplay in tty1 complains about not being able to open a slave
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22:17<phlato>dodo: what desktop manager are you using?
22:18<abrotman>phlato: dod<tab>
22:18<dodobirdie>the dufault I guess
22:18<phlato>thanks
22:18<mmavipc>chealer: "ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:(1018):(snd_pcm_dmiz_open) unable to open slave" is the exact error
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22:18<mmavipc>*dmix
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22:20<chealer>mmavipc: that rings a bell
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22:20<mmavipc>chealer: oh that was because I was logged in as a different user in the term, logged in as same as kde it does the same thing as konsole
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22:22<chealer>mmavipc: ah. It reminded me of http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=709106 but then I don't know
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22:26<mmavipc>chealer: here's something interesting from the xorg log
22:26<mmavipc>http://pastebin.com/Y7yfBQ2y
22:26<mmavipc>that happens two more times, but with pem=7 and pcm=8
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22:30<MMavipc_con>I'm going to spam service kde restart until it works, then see if the logs are any different
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22:31<MMavipc_con>brb restarting whole box
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22:33<mmavipc>I'm completely stumped
22:34<mmavipc>exit
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22:46<chealer>MMavipc: so restarting X can workaround, but can it cause the problem if your session is already fine?
22:46<MMavipc>chealer yeah
22:46<MMavipc>it's really hit and miss
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22:49<chealer>MMavipc: could you confirm that just restarting X causes speaker-test (in tty1) to switch between silent and normal?
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22:50<mmavipc-afk>ok wtf
22:50<mmavipc-afk>speaker-test just worked
22:50<mmavipc-afk>and vlc started working
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22:51<Hatter>I have just put a 4Tb disk in and installed wheezy, fdisk complains about not starting on physical boundary and shows sector 1 as beginning, however parted shows partition 1 starting at sector 2048... which one should I believe ?
22:51<mmavipc-debian>it wasn't working before during this session
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22:52<mmavipc-debian>let me try a few more things
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22:54<mmavipc-debian>I just restarted kdm, and it stopped working
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22:54<mmavipc-debian>sound-test in tty1 also stopped working
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22:55<chealer>mmavipc-debian: non-trivial, but I'd check for differences in the set of modules loaded before/after a relevant restart
22:56<Hatter>according to align-check optimal 1 in parted the partitions are aligned optimal.
22:57<mmavipc-debian>I have no idea how to do that
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22:59<mmavipc-debian>doing cat Xorg.log.0 | grep module shows the same output as the same command on Xorg.0.log.old
22:59<mmavipc-debian>well, except for timestamps
22:59<chealer>mmavipc-debian: I meant kernel modules. you can list them with lsmod (and use Kompare to compare if you save output to 2 files)
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23:01<mmavipc-debian>alright. I just saved a copy now. I'm going to try letting it sit for 30 minutes and see if it magically starts working. Since the last time it started working it was mid-session
23:02<Horgix>Hi everyone ! Quick question about apt/dpkg : when I run dpk --get-selections, some packages are listed as "deinstall" but I can't find any way to remove them all at once with apt-get without specifying each name
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23:02<chealer>you could also compare aplay -l
23:03<MMavipc>chealer: oh yeah, another thing I forgot to mention that may/maynot be relevant. When sound does work, it's very poppy/staticy
23:04<chealer>MMavipc: no idea. which Debian suite do you use?
23:04<Horgix>is there any way I could remove it properly and all unused dependencies ?
23:04<themill>Horgix: "apt-get dselect-upgrade" might do it -- do these packages need to be removed or purged?
23:04<Horgix>purged, it's mostly packages I don't need at all
23:05<themill>Horgix: apt automatically tracks unused dependencies and deals with that. You may need to alter its idea of what priority dependency is required to keep a package installed though (see aptitude's SuggestsImportant config option)
23:05<themill>Horgix: if you've got lots of stuff marked 'manually' installed then you may want a tool like debfoster or deborphan to brutally suggest things to remove
23:06<mmavipc-debian>chealer: aplay -L is listing 3 devices, HDMI 0, 1, and 2. The box has a HDMI out, HDMI in, and DisplayPort out. Think there could be something iffy there?
23:07<chealer>mmavipc-debian: aplay l uppercase or lowercase? the output would be clearer
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23:07<MMavipc>uppercase
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23:07<MMavipc>lowercase shows 1
23:08<MMavipc>oh ops
23:08<Horgix>themill: no there's almost nothing I installed without apt-get. I removed some packages with apt-get --purge remove <pkgname> but it looks like dependencies weren't removed
23:08<MMavipc>lowercase also shows 3
23:08<Horgix>like conky and conky-cli for example
23:09<MMavipc>chealer: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=uhYw5cdq
23:09<themill>dpkg: tell Horgix about autoremove
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23:10<Horgix>themill: also tried with autoremove
23:10<chealer>MMavipc: I've never seen that but ALSA is so mysterious I wouldn't say it's abnormal
23:11<themill>Horgix: this is too hard to do in the abstract -- real commands and real output in a pastebin would be much easier
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23:11<MMavipc>chealer: is there a way to force it to try playing on one of the different devices?
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23:11<twb>Given that pa sits on top of alsa anyway, I'd be inclined to remove pa and try with just alsa
23:11<twb>But then I'm an anti-pa bigot so don't trust me :-)
23:12<chealer>MMavipc: did you see KDE's sound settings screen?
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23:12<MMavipc>chealer: yeah, only one sound output device is listed there
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23:13<mmavipc-debian>well actually
23:13<mmavipc-debian>3
23:13<mmavipc-debian>dummy output
23:13<mmavipc-debian>and two hdmis
23:13<mmavipc-debian>one is grey
23:13<Horgix>themill: thanks for the dpkg (bot I guess) explanation. I originally wanted to know about how to remove all the "deinstall" packages at once but I guess apt-get --dselect-upgrade will do the trick, gonna try that
23:13<mmavipc-debian>testing the one that's not grey causes nothing to happen
23:14<Horgix>themill: nvm, looks like it doesn't
23:14<chealer>mmavipc-debian: 1 or 2 grey?
23:14<dodobirdie>what are some useful Debian forums preferably for trouble shooting ?
23:14<mmavipc-debian>chealer: dummy and one of the two HDMIs are grey
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23:15<themill>Horgix: you probably want "aptitude purge ~c"
23:15<chealer>mmavipc-debian: ah, hum. aplay has option -D, but good luck trying to use that
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23:15<mmavipc-debian>chealer: I FOUND THE MAGICAL OPTION THAT FIXED IT
23:15<mmavipc-debian>give me a second for a screenshow
23:15<mmavipc-debian>*shot
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23:16<mmavipc-debian>hmm
23:17<mmavipc-debian>I can't seem to take a snapshot in kde with a dropdown menu active
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23:18<Horgix>themill: looks like it's what I'm looking for from the packages he tells me it will remove, thanks ! May I ask what the ~c stands for ?
23:18<themill>config files remain
23:18<themill>dpkg: tell Horgix about aptitude search
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23:19<mmavipc-debian>chealer: http://i.imgur.com/oI9f8Ke.png there are two profiles with completely identical names
23:19<mmavipc-debian>one works, the other doesn't
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23:20<Horgix>themill: exactly what I was looking for :) Thanks a lot
23:20<themill>no worries
23:20<mmavipc-debian>the static/pop seems to only be VLC, as youtube is working fine
23:20<mmavipc-debian>thanks for the help
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23:22<chealer>mmavipc-debian: cute. well, congrats. I suppose you're using an older version, I don't have that tab in jessie (but I remember it)
23:22<Horgix>themill: if I may ask a last question : is there a way to list exactly which files are gonna be removed ? --simulate seems to not go far enough
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23:24<themill>Horgix: you'd need to look at the output of "dpkg-query --show $package" (not that the maintainer script may also delete further files)
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23:34<chealer>mmavipc-debian: I wouldn't have thought a setting there would affect what happens in tty1
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23:40<Hatter>why would 'echo $DISPLAY' show an empty line ?
23:41<dario``>Hatter: because $DISPLAY is not set?
23:42<Hatter>I am ssh'd in, there is a gnome display on the screen
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23:42<Hatter>my bad. no X11 forwarding set in putty.
23:43<Hatter>dario``, thx
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23:44<vis>algun latino
23:44<vis>solo gringos
23:44<vis>?
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23:45<vis>no hay nadie
23:45<abrotman>!es
23:45<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
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23:45<dario``>Hatter: :)
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23:45<vis>: )
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23:51<mmavipc-debian>My screen is tearing while watching youtube videos, it's only a minor issue, but if anyone has a fix let me know
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23:53<Al3xG0>!pt
23:53<dpkg>Por favor use #debian-pt para ajuda em portugues ou #debian-br para ajuda em portugues do brasil. ( /join #debian-pt )
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23:55<Al3xG0>anybody here using ati radeon driver?.
23:55<sney>!anyone
23:55<dpkg>Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>.
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