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00:23<isosceles>I am pretty certain it is a bug
00:24<isosceles>nevermind, that was for a different room
00:24<ncl>19:53.06 < sney> wardhan: make-kpkg has been deprecated for years. *sigh* these blogs...
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00:24<ncl>I've still been using it, heh
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00:27<d_>I am trying to import outlooks pst files into any Linux email client, but not succeeding. These are outlook 2010 pst files. Tried thunderbird, sylpheed, evolution. I really dont care about the folder structure in outlook, I just want to dump the program and use Linux. Any suggestions about extracting the .pst files?
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00:28<d_>I am going to try to export to excel, then save as maybe csv then maybe try to import that
00:29<themill>d_: pst-utils, readpst and pff-tools are worth looking at. (I've never touched any of them but have heard that others got it to work)
00:30<d_>I will take a look at those now, thanks
00:30<themill>d_: the other option is you install dovecot imap server somewhere and just copy everything from one MUA to the next via the imapd
00:30<themill>assuming you still have access to the old MUA, of course
00:31<d_>What is a MUA? These emails by the way are from a pop3 account so they are local in pst files. No exchange server or anything like that
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00:32<dpkg>well, mua is a Mail User Agent, in other words <mailx>, <mutt>, <balsa>, <alpine>, <elm>, <icedove> (thunderbird), <kmail>, <evolution>, or any other mail client program.
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00:34<powersmax>Hey hows it going? anyone know there way around pgp in tails?
00:34<d_>I am not well versed in those subjects. I think I have kmail here but would not know how to set up this. Will try the tools you mentioned earlier
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00:39<powersmax>so anyone want to help a noob getting going with pgp in a debian envroment
00:40<centrx>powersmax, What is tails? By pgp do you mean gpg?
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00:42<themill>d_: I mean that you could look at these mails in outlook once more and copy them all into your own imap server. You can then attach whatever new mail client you want (like kmail) to your mail server and copy them back out (or even leave them there)
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01:16<Guest2243>I used readpst -k to extract a pst file, but I cannot find the resulting kmail file. Any idea where this file that was generated would be placed?
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01:17<themill>I would imagine it's in the same directory
01:18<Guest2243>That is what I thought too but it is not showing up. I will try again
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01:18<jm_>ls -lrta
01:18<jm_>and investigate further
01:20<Guest2243>I think I see it thank you. I am not used to the Konsole, when I type DIR, the results are shown horizontally for some odd reason
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01:25<Guest2243>Should the kmail file have an extension? filename.extension?
01:27<Guest2243>Microsoft really knows what they are doing. Hold 5+ years of emails hostage
01:28<jordanm>Guest2243: last time I dealt with getting mail out of a pst, I ended up converting it to mbox on windows before conferting it to maildir on linux
01:28<jordanm>but that was evolution, not kmail
01:29<rjsalts>maildir is maildir
01:29<rjsalts>pst is the difficult part of the equation
01:29<jordanm>yes, but not all MUAs use maildir
01:30<Guest2243>Thank you. I would like to use Kmail. I think I read that kmail will import mbox
01:32<Guest2243>jordanm how did you convert it to mbox on windows?
01:33<themill>kmail will also handle maildir
01:33<jordanm>Guest2243: it was a cli utility that I found at the time, don't recall the name
01:33<jordanm>quick google search doesn't turn up what I had used
01:33<Guest2243>Ok. So then maildir then
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01:34<themill>kmail doesn't expect file extensions on the mbox files either
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01:35<Guest2243>What I am doing is copying the pst to usb, copying it here to debian. readpst -k filename.pst
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01:35*themill still votes that a local imap server would be easier and probably more robust
01:36<Guest2243>Well I heard leaning email servers is a little difficult
01:36<Guest2243>I know nothing abou tthem
01:36<Guest2243>and I am high tech compared the the average american
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01:37<Guest2243>Does the imap server concept work by sort of auto emailing all the emails to the new mail client?
01:38<Guest2243>It would be like if I just spent the next 5 or 6 days forwarding all 25,000 emails, except in this case it wouuld be automated
01:38<Guest2243>I think it is more like 50k emails, not sure of the count
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01:39<jm_>have you simply tries starting kmail after running readpst -k?
01:41<Guest2243>I did, not showing up in the folders that I can see. Then I tried to import the file but cant find the file
01:42<tarnea>im trying to mount my drive, but not working, can some one help?
01:42<jm_>then find out where readpst created the file first
01:43<shelmed>Have just installed Debian Wheezy. Am now wanting to point my install to 'testing'. I know that I can't go back from testing to stable but can I go from testing to tracking Jessie instead - just in case I prefer to follow that release longer term
01:43<Guest2243>I see the file in the terminal I think, it has no extension
01:43<Guest2243>I mean the konsole
01:43<jm_>shelmed: you can but only if you'll stop following testing at the right time
01:43<Nemoder>shelmed: if you point to 'jessie' instead of 'testing' then when jessie becomes stable you will be using stable
01:43<jm_>so where is the file?
01:44<tarnea>mount: special device /dev/sda2 does not exist
01:44<tarnea>but showing via fdisk
01:44<tarnea>df not showing the drive
01:44<kenyon>tarnea: what does parted --list say
01:45<shelmed>Thanks Nemoder - sorry how do you mean 'the right time'? Do you mean just before Jessie becomes stable?
01:45<tarnea>kenyon: root@ubuntu:/dev# parted --list
01:45<tarnea>Model: Msft Virtual Disk (scsi)
01:45<tarnea>Disk /dev/sda: 268GB
01:45<tarnea>Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
01:45<tarnea>Partition Table: msdos
01:45<tarnea>Number Start End Size Type File system Flags
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01:46<Nemoder>shelmed: you would only have to stop updating at the right time if you used 'testing' in your sources.list
01:46<Nemoder>if you use 'jessie' it wont matter
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01:47<jm_>!ubuntuirc tarnea
01:47<dpkg>tarnea: This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://
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01:47<Guest2243>I ran readpst filename.pst without using -d and something different happened. Seeing if kmail sees anything
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01:48<kenyon>Msft Virtual Disk? wtf?
01:48<tarnea>jm_: for partitions, both ubuntu and debian use the same right?
01:49<tarnea>kenyon: its a cloud based system
01:49<tarnea>of 250GB drive
01:49<kenyon>well that's weird and that's probably the problem
01:49<shelmed>Okay thanks for that. To change to testing I was just going to replace all the 'Wheezy' entries with testing. I have read some other suggestions such as mixing my sources.list with testing and unstable. Do you have any brief advice on this? Thanks
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01:49<SamB>kenyon: I guess someone is using MS's VM software ...
01:49<tarnea>but 1ly 45 GB is allocated to / im trying to mount rest
01:50<jm_>tarnea: I don't know what ubuntu uses
01:50<Guest2243>When I was picking the directory in kmail, I thought you highlight the directory then click ok. It turns out that you need to go inside the directory then click ok
01:50<tarnea>SamB: no its a ubuntu server in a HyperV cloud
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01:52<shelmed>Also am I right in thinking after changing my sources.list I should run # apt-get update && apt-get upgrade follwed by # apt-get dist-upgrade ?
01:54<kenyon>!tell shelmed about wheezy->jessie
01:57<tarnea>jm_: I am also not sure, but as ubuntu is a debian distribution, I assumed the funtamental file system will be the same... sorry.. also ubuntu community isn't replying va irc now... so 1ly asked.
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02:02<shelmed>Nemoder: !stable->testing - Sorry apologies if I didn't make my self clear - bit of a noob at this! My current install has 'Wheezy' in the sources.list and I was going to change this to 'testing' to see how it goes as a rolling distro. Just wanted to confirm I was doing the right thing by changing the 'Wheezy' entries in the sources.list to testing and what the following commands should be ie. should I run dist-upgrade after the update
02:02<shelmed>and upgrade commands or not?
02:03<Nemoder>hm maybe the dpkg bot didn't send the info right
02:03<Nemoder>shelmed: change 'Wheezy' to 'Jessie' and do aptitude update && aptitude full-upgrade
02:03<jm_>usually the problem is on the other end :)
02:04<Nemoder>jm_: it didn't show up in chat so maybe the -> confused it?
02:05<shelmed>Nemoder: Thanks for that :0)
02:05<jm_>Nemoder: did it say 'told shelmed about ...'?
02:05<Nemoder>jm_: I didn't do the !tell that was kenyon
02:05<jm_>Nemoder: ahh sorry
02:05<Nemoder>i thought perhaps his worked so i didn't question it
02:06<jm_>dpkg stable->testing
02:06<dpkg>First, understand that testing is a pre-release distribution without timely security support and that you will have a bumpy ride; ask me about <moving target> <testing> <testing security>. From /etc/apt/sources.list, remove stable-specific lines like wheezy-updates and backports, and change wheezy to jessie. apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade. If you feel you need more instructions, perhaps you should wait a while.
02:06<themill>Nemoder: remember you can't use ! with factoids with -> in the key. (You don't want to know why)
02:06<jm_>in some cases ! won't work
02:06<Nemoder>aha i thought as much
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02:10<shelmed>dpkg: Hi, yeah I'm aware of the potential pitfalls re 'testing' release. Have used Linux for a while but at a very superficial level. Want to learn more, and you know what they say - "If you want to learn, break it and then fix it!" ;0)
02:10<dpkg>You are person #1 to send an unparseable request, shelmed
02:10<SamB>shelmed: don't feel too bad, the counter is reset daily
02:12<kenyon>sounds like you should go straight to unstable then heh
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02:13<shelmed>dpkg: Very sorry. Second time on an IRC! Shall read up more before I come on again :(
02:13<dpkg>shelmed: You are person #2 to send an unparseable request
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02:13<SamB>shelmed: uh, dpkg is a bot!
02:14<kenyon>dpkg: beer shelmed
02:14*dpkg pours a pint of Batch 50 GFAR for shelmed
02:14<shelmed>kenyon: Lol - I'm not that brave!
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02:26<shelmed>OK guys - off to try 'jessie'. Will join again soon
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03:52<shelmed>In middle of upgrading from wheezy to jessie. Have changed sources.list and ran # apt-get update && apt-get upgrade. Now faced with a screen entitled 'configuring libc6' and asking if I want to upgrade glibc now? Not sure whether to say yes or no to this
03:53<Nemoder>what exactly does it say?
03:55<shelmed>Nemoder: script detected the following installed services which must be stopped before the upgrade: kdm
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03:56<shelmed>If you want to interrupt the upgrade now and continue later, please answer No to the question below.
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03:57<shelmed>Do you want to upgrade glibc now?
03:57<jm_>i hope you're not doing this from X
03:57<Nemoder>hmm, it might be better to run the upgrade outside of X then if it has stop kdm
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03:58<Nemoder>can switch to another terminal with ctrl-alt-f2 and back again with ctrl-alt-f7
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03:59<shelmed>Ahh Okay - am doing this from X - oops! Okay will do this from another terminal and abort this current attempt
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04:12<pearce>who can give me a link to teach me how to use the kdenlive to make a iebook?
04:12<pearce>thanks a lot
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04:44<cibegtd>is it possible to change the escape char "\" in my environment?
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04:47<jm_>change it for what?
04:47<cibegtd>for example for #
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04:47<Stummi>you mean in your shell? I don't think so
04:47<Stummi>why would you want to do this?
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04:47<jm_>not to what, but for what
04:48<cibegtd>ok let me explain
04:49<ncl>checking from " set | grep \''\\' " it doesn't look like it's something that can be set? or maybe I'm not looking close enough
04:49<ncl>it doesn't seem like something settable
04:49<jm_>if you mean for your tty you can do it with stty command
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04:51<Stummi>what do you want to reach with \''\\' ?
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04:52<jm_>or do you mean shell's quoting character?
04:52<Stummi>its a '\\
04:52<Stummi>there isn't any quoting within '...'
04:52<ncl>local quoted=${1//\'/\'\\\'\'};
04:52<cibegtd>please read this: at the top of the code you see the reason of my question.
04:52<ncl>maybe something in that? but I'm better at writing than reading I guess
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04:54<cibegtd>please read attack instead of attach
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04:54<Stummi>ncl, still seems broken to me
04:54<Stummi>it makes '\''foo'\'' out of 'foo'
04:54<Stummi>I don't think its what you want
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04:56<cibegtd>Stummi: could you give more info, please?
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04:57<Stummi>more info on what?
04:57<cibegtd>you mentioned: "I don't think its what you want"
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04:59<dpkg>somebody said bash was the Bourne Again SHell, and the default Debian shell. Ask me about <bash faq>, <bash pitfalls>, <bbg>, <abs>, <parsing ls>, <bashism>. #bash on and
04:59<SynrG>not a debian question, really
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05:01<Stummi>cibegtd, escaping is a matter of your shell. the system()-call has nothing to do with your shell
05:01<jm_>you'll probably have to check how system is implemented in glibc because it uses sh -c so it likely quotes "problematic" characters on its own
05:02<Stummi>hm, wait, nvm. system calls sh
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05:09<Stummi>cibegtd, so you want to know how to exploit your code snippet? (./command "something -exec sh")
05:09<Stummi>where something is a file which exists in your ~
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05:10<Stummi>or you can sneak a subshell into the expression
05:10<Stummi>./command '$(sh -i)'
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05:14<cibegtd>Stummi: thank you! ./command '$(sh -i)' worked!
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05:15<Stummi>its generally a bad idea to do a system() call with user input
05:15<cibegtd>Stummi: Could you please give a short explanation what '' did in the command? I tried before this ./command $(/bin/sh) but the argument was first interpreted by the bash and then the result of that was given to the ./command
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05:16<Stummi>user input is evil
05:16<Stummi>cibegtd, '' prevents expansion
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05:17<cibegtd>Stummi: thank you very much!
05:17<Stummi>in your own shell, so '$(sh)' will be given literally as argument to the command
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05:48<ColombianBootloader>hi, Does anybody knows if there is a samba channel here?
05:49<babilen>ColombianBootloader: there is #samba on freenode
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05:50<ColombianBootloader>I try to connect to freenode but it crashes xchat, do not know why mate
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05:57<SynrG>,v xchat
05:57<judd>Package: xchat on i386 -- squeeze: 2.8.8-3; wheezy: 2.8.8-7.1; jessie: 2.8.8-7.1+b1; sid: 2.8.8-7.1+b1
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05:57<SynrG>ColombianBootloader: is your xchat up-to-date?
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05:58<SynrG>i can't tell from the ctcp version to your client, as it doesn't give the debian version detail, only the upstream version#
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05:59<heday>Hi all, does dpkg-buikdpackage performs incremental building? or do I jave to recompile all my source code everytime i want a new package?
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05:59<SynrG>that's the upstream build system's job, not dpkg-buildpackage's
06:00<SynrG>it's likely it cleans first
06:00<SynrG>you might be able to call targets in debian/rules directly
06:00<heday>SynrG: yes, it does cleans everything first, therefore it performs a full recompilation (even if you change only one file on your 100 files package)
06:00<SynrG>so don't clean first. just call the target you need
06:01<jm_>heday: it has options for this, i.e. -nc
06:01<heday>SynrG: I see. So i would have to call targets directly
06:01<SynrG>that's better than my way, which is a bit hacky
06:01<SynrG>read the dpkg-buildpackage man page? :)
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06:01<SynrG> -nc Do not clean the source tree (implies -b if nothing else has been selected among -B, -A or -S).
06:02<heday>jm_: yes, I tried that
06:02<heday>jm_: but it does not recomplie anything
06:03<SynrG>because you didn't update anything?
06:03<SynrG>what's your goal?
06:03<heday>SynrG: yes, i did change a source file, but it didn't recompile it
06:03<heday>SynrG: i am trying to recompile the openjdk
06:03<SynrG>because upstream's build system caches it, perhaps?
06:04<SynrG>i don't know openjdk ...
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06:04<heday>how do i avoid or clean the cache?
06:04<SynrG>(i mean i don't know the source, or its build system)
06:04<SynrG>beats me. that's what i was driving at when i first answered
06:04<SynrG>it's highly variable; depends on upstream's build system
06:05<SynrG>it's also a bit outside the scope of this channel
06:05<heday>what channel should i go to?
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06:06<SynrG>possibly #debian-mentors, but be quite specific about what you want to accomplish. not general the way we started.
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06:07<heday>okay, i will try my luck a bit here (check the targets as you suggested), then i unsuccessfull, i will try there. thanks
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06:08<SynrG>heday: not just debian/rules targets, but also the innards of the upstream build system perhaps
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06:08<jm_>heday: you'll want to check its dependencies in the rules file then
06:08<SynrG>it's hard to say without looking where the problem lies
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06:11<ColombianBootloader>ok let me check the version...
06:11<heday>is there any literature i can read? i am quite new to debian packaging system
06:11<SynrG>ColombianBootloader: i assume you're on wheezy?
06:11<SynrG>ColombianBootloader: judd said the current version is 2.8.8-7.1
06:11<ColombianBootloader>yes I am ...
06:11<ColombianBootloader>mine is same as Judd's
06:12<ColombianBootloader>it is weird that it can not load all the channels...though it does connect to #Samba (I am right now)
06:12<jm_>heday: it's a makefile, it's target-dependency based so check the build target and its dependencies to learn how to trigger a rebuild without cleaning everything
06:12<SynrG>so when you connect to the freenode server it crashes xchat? that's strange.
06:13<SynrG>ColombianBootloader: could you please start xchat from an x terminal and then put any output after the crash at for us to see?
06:13<heday>jm_: thanks i am on it now
06:13<ColombianBootloader> says that it is loading channels but..stays there forever!! and if you do alt+f4 it is not a happy chappy
06:13<SynrG>ah. that's a different meaning of "crash" from the normal one
06:14<ColombianBootloader>yeah..sorry mate, I should have been more clear
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06:15<SynrG>ColombianBootloader: i'm not an xchat user, so i don't know what alt-F4 is supposed to do :)
06:16<ColombianBootloader>alt+f4 is just to close the window.
06:16<SynrG>ColombianBootloader: maybe you could use some other irc client, connect to freenode, and take your issue to #xchat @ freenode?
06:16<SynrG>ah, k
06:16<SynrG>that specific issue may be:
06:16<SynrG>seems to be very old
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06:17<SynrG>ColombianBootloader: which irc server is it trying to connect to? maybe it's wrong?
06:17<SynrG>you could try switching to a specific irc server rather than using round robin dns
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06:18<SynrG>freenode should have a list of servers on the web somewherre
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06:19<odla>hi, i can't extract a tarball in /home/user/Downloads/ ... it says i don't have permission. i don't understand why
06:19<SynrG>wrong ownership of /home/user/Downloads?
06:19<odla>i have had issue with this ... how can i make my user own everything in /home/user/*
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06:20<ColombianBootloader>mm I did not think about that one...hey
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06:20<SynrG>odla: as root, chown -R user:user /home/user
06:20<jm_>odla: what are you doing to be causing this?
06:20<SynrG>odla: perhaps you've run something as root from your user account?
06:21<odla>just trying to extract a tarball ... not sure i did any thing
06:21<jm_>no, before that
06:21<odla>but all my folders have access only for /home/user/*
06:21<odla>jm_: i didn't do anything ... i swear!
06:21<SynrG>odla: anyway, before the chown:
06:21<SynrG>odla: ls -dl /home/user/Downloads
06:22<odla>drwxr-xr-x 5 chris chris 4096 Mar 5 11:20 /home/chris/Downloads/
06:22<odla>apparently user "Me" can't create and delete (according to nautlius) but not group Chris
06:22<odla>oops can create and delete
06:23<jm_>that's normal with such permissions
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06:23<SynrG>try this from a terminal:
06:23<jm_>note "r-x" for group permissions
06:24<SynrG>touch ~/Downloads/test
06:24<odla>SynrG: that worked fine
06:24<ColombianBootloader>I got a question, how can I unistall samba binaries? I got no response for the guys in SAmba channel
06:24<ColombianBootloader>any thoughts?
06:25<jm_>ColombianBootloader: I explained it yesterday
06:25<odla>SynrG: ok ... i think it's a bug in nautilus ... i can extract the tarball via CLI
06:25<odla>no problem
06:25<SynrG>odla: or maybe you aren't extracting the tarball where you think you are?
06:26<ColombianBootloader>I think you did mate, and I think you were in the middle of that but I did have a problem here at home and I lost all track of your advice.
06:26<SynrG>odla: when using nautilus, i mean
06:26<odla>SynrG: i am though ...
06:26<ColombianBootloader>believe me jm. I am kind of sick of asking the same thing...
06:26<odla>will check for bug reports ... be back in a bit
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06:26<jm_>ColombianBootloader: why not write things down or use irc client's capability to save conversations to file(s)?
06:27<ColombianBootloader>oh I did not know I can do that mate!!! ok I can google it and use that! I am new to xchat
06:28<ColombianBootloader>I am not trying to be a pain in the ass jm
06:28<jm_>get the same sources, configure it like the last time, then two options: a) check if it has uninstalltarget 'make -n uninstall', if it does, verify if all looks correct then run it again with -n, b) if it doesn't, run 'make -n install' and do the opposite manually
06:28<jm_>ColombianBootloader: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
06:29<jm_>that should say without -n
06:30<ColombianBootloader>sorry mate, what do you mean by get the same sources, do you mean to get the binary file?
06:31<jm_>follow the same procedure you followed when you installed it in /usr, but stop before it says to run 'make install' or whatever the step is to install the binaries
06:32<ColombianBootloader>oh ok. got it now!!! ok let me have a go mate and I ll tell you in a sec ok?
06:32<jm_>the second is over!
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06:33<jm_>are you spanish? i thought you were upside-down feller
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06:33<ColombianBootloader>I am Colombian, though I am in Australia at the moment
06:33<ColombianBootloader>and you mate?
06:34<jm_>ahh that explains jajaja, I'm from Slovenia/Europe
06:35<ColombianBootloader>how little is the wold jm!!! it feels like you are just my neighbor
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06:39<ColombianBootloader>what time is over there jm
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06:40<jm_>ColombianBootloader: 12:40
06:41<ColombianBootloader>ok midday .
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07:02<ColombianBootloader>ok jm. I did run ./configure and I basically stopped before make, then make -n uninstall. this is my output WAF_MAKE=1 python ./buildtools/bin/waf uninstall
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07:03<jm_>ColombianBootloader: well you'll need to check ./buildtools/bin/waf for how it uninstalls things, it's not using a list of commands in the makefile itsels
07:03<jm_>but it seems to be there as an option
07:04<ColombianBootloader>ok I think I can do that..
07:04<jm_>alternatively, if you think you can trust it just run the command ...
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07:08<ColombianBootloader> seems it is doing it mate
07:08<ColombianBootloader>Waf: Entering directory `/home/wilson/Downloads/samba-4.1.5/bin'
07:08<ColombianBootloader>* removing /usr/samba/etc
07:08<ColombianBootloader>* removing /usr/samba/private
07:08<ColombianBootloader>* removing /usr/samba/var
07:08<ColombianBootloader>* removing /usr/samba/private
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07:11<ColombianBootloader>hey jm..sorry I got kicked out mate
07:11<jm_>remember, use a pastebin for more than 2 lines of text
07:12<ColombianBootloader>pastebin? oh I feel like a kid in a candy store, so much to learn YAY!!!
07:12<babilen>dpkg: paste
07:12<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: or for pics. Use for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>.
07:14<ColombianBootloader>oh let me check that !!!
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07:15<zhangxu>ni hao
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07:18<SynrG>do you have a debian support question?
07:18<ColombianBootloader>it worked like a charm jm!!!
07:18<ColombianBootloader>thank you mate
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07:18<jm_>ColombianBootloader: no worries
07:19<ColombianBootloader>I checked /usr and there is no samba directory there
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07:28<francis>hello, i was debating about converting from proxmox to a pure debian kvm setup, however being lazy i want a UI to make life easier setting up backs etc
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07:39<SynrG>francis: you can't crossgrade from one distro to another.
07:39<SynrG>francis: however, you could do a fresh install of debian
07:39<SynrG>francis: when you say "being lazy i want a UI", what did you have in mind? debian has many ...
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07:40<francis>SynrG: yes that is what i would do, reinstall fresh
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07:41<francis>SynrG: i thought there might be a _debian_ standard that the most effort has gone into making it work nicely
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07:43<francis>SynrG: i don't know if you have seen proxmox, but it gives you a nice web interface to configuring backups, creating new vm's etc
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07:44<francis>i wouldn't even mind converting to xen
07:45<SynrG>all-in-one system management UIs are almost uniformly horrible.
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07:46<jm_>proxmox is not that bad, sort of similar to vmware
07:46<SynrG>the "lazy" way turns out to be actually to learn *some* commandline stuff
07:46<SynrG>and only use GUIs, web-based or otherwise, when there's some demonstrable advantage.
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07:47<francis>proxmox ui is pretty good for saving me time configuring things
07:47<SynrG>that is, GUIs can give you the illusion of saving time, whereas in fact, they can open up a world of hurt
07:47<SynrG>i'm not anti-GUI. its just that they have their limits. ultimately you do need some commandline sys admin skills
07:48<francis>when i need to i can
07:48<francis>however for general stuff
07:48<SynrG>k. then as for specifics: if you want a nice UI for managing backups, see backuppc
07:48<SynrG>if you have other particular needs, ask. i don't know of any universal "UI for system management" that i could recommend.
07:48<francis>ok then no you don't know something similar to proxmox's ui
07:49<francis>just thought there might be something similar
07:49<SynrG>never having seen proxmox, i can't tell you what might serve your needs ...
07:49<SynrG>you'll need to be specific
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07:50<SynrG>certainly when receiving help here, people are going to give you advice in terms of the (usually) easy to learn and easy to explain commandline things we're all comfortable with
07:50<SynrG>rather than in terms of some horrible general-purpose web administration frontend ...
07:50<francis>ok fair enough
07:50<dpkg>Webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at Remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." Removed from Debian post-Sarge, see . The Debian package from is of poor quality. See <free whcp> for alternatives.
07:50<SynrG>^^ notable example of that breed
07:51<francis>yes well webmin isn't what i was after
07:51<SynrG>ok. then you'll have to come up with specifics in terms of individual needs you want met, without reference to software we don't know :)
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07:52<francis>i assumed as proxmox is a debian based system it would be fairly well known
07:52<jm_>it's not
07:53<Maulkin>francis: Unfortunately, there's a *lot* of things that are based on Debian, but rarely do those downstream distributions get involved back with us
07:53<francis>oh well, i don't know how things relate
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07:57<SynrG>francis: i want to challenge you to think about what really "saves time". i think being able to enter a support community that is larged and is skilled at answering questions by users of all different skill levels and usually help them find answers will save *far* more time than whatever proxmox has saved you so far.
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07:58<jm_>maybe you can find some of these in debian
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07:58<SynrG>it's nice that you found a derivative that seemed to meet your needs at the time, but that fact you're considering "pure debian" makes me wonder if perhaps you've run up against the limits of what that deriv can do for you
07:59<SynrG>making that switch will inevitably involve some compromises.
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08:00<SynrG>but i think in the end, you will end up further ahead, with a stronger admin skillset than before, and without nearly as much effort as you might think
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08:05<ColombianBootloader>how can I save what I have talked here to a file guys?
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08:48<SynrG>ColombianBootloader: turn on logging in xchat
08:48<SynrG>ColombianBootloader: i am not an xchat user. can't help any more than that ...
08:49<SynrG>probably most people here use irssi or something, not xchat
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08:51<zathras>ColombianBootloader, it is in the preferences menu
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08:55<ColombianBootloader>thanks guys for the help
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09:31<ashish>what is best option for amd4000 series card in dabian for best performance
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09:36<SynrG>ashish: i don't know what you mean by "amd4000 series card"
09:36<SynrG>ashish: lspci -nn | grep -i vga
09:36<SynrG>this will tell us what you have
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09:40<ashish>01:05.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS880M [Mobility Radeon HD 4200 Series] [1002:9712]
09:42<SynrG>i don't know about "best performance" because i've never even tried the non-free driver, but i find my RV710 card (hd4350) performs just fine on the free driver, plus the non-free firmware.
09:43<ashish>SynrG, in ubuntu 13.04, my laptop heating too much and no battery backup. i found in internet that fglrx driver not support latest kernel and xorg
09:43<SynrG>what do you want to use it for?
09:43<SynrG>yeah. i've heard reports of problems with fglrx like that
09:43<SynrG>so i would say you should use the free radeon driver. just make sure you have the non-free firmware installed.
09:44<ashish>SynrG, with open source driver i m facing this problem.
09:45<NaCl>sometimes, people patch the current fglrx to work with newer kernels
09:45<NaCl>might want to search around for that.
09:45<ashish>NaCl, yes that was possible with ubuntu12.10. i did in that but new kernal patches not available.
09:46<NaCl>I had patched my local copy of fglrx to work with the 3.10 kernel
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09:46<NaCl>and wrt battery life, often laptops will have a lower-powered (Intel) chipset to use when the laptop is on battery
09:46<petn-randall>ashish: distro-hopping is not necessarily the best way to fix a bug that bites you ...
09:47<NaCl>there is nothing wrong with installing packages outside of the package manager
09:47*NaCl does that all the time
09:47<petn-randall>NaCl: Err ... how do you install packages without the package manager?
09:47<ashish>petemc, NaCl please tell me what is best solution for me. i just want stable and good performace
09:48<NaCl>petn-randall: misspoke. more like using ./configure ; make ; make install sort of things
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09:48<ashish>NaCl, can u provide me link for patching with kernel 3.10
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09:50<petn-randall>NaCl: Then you're speaking more generally of software, ok. Though the "make install" step is tricky, as most Makefiles will just spill files all over the filesystem, which can break distro upgrades at a later point. I personally don't recommend such a method.
09:51<NaCl>petn-randall: yeah, It is only recommended for people who know what they are doing. If I do stuff like that, the package goes to /usr/local
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09:51<NaCl>as in the prefix is /usr/local
09:51<NaCl>sysconfdir is /usr/local/etc
09:51<NaCl>ashish: looks like the latest fglrx supports kernel 3.11
09:51<NaCl>on AMD's own web site
09:52<NaCl>ashish: furthermore, the beta supports up to kernel 3.13
09:52<ashish>NaCl, no its for amd5000 and above
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09:53<SynrG>ashish: no idea about your ubuntu-specific problems with the open source drivers ...
09:53<SynrG>ashish: or are you saying *debian* has this problem too?
09:54<SynrG>ashish: and you have the non-free firmware installed too?
09:54<ashish>thats why i asked in dabian forum
09:54<NaCl>ashish: oh, uh, then I have no idea. forgot about AMD dropping some hardware support.
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09:55<ashish>SynrG, please specify about firmware. i m not too much technical
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09:57<NaCl>I have a radeon HD5XXX in my system, which is supported by fglrx
09:57<ashish>NaCl, yes hd5000 and above are still supported
09:58<SynrG>!radeon firmware
09:58<dpkg>Binary-only firmware was removed from the radeon <DRM> driver at linux-2.6 2.6.29-1 (Debian bug #494009) and is packaged separately in firmware-linux-nonfree. Without this package installed, poor 2D/3D performance in the <radeon> xorg driver is commonly experienced. To acquire, ask me about <non-free sources>. This is not required for use of the <fglrx> driver.
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10:56<brainm>i have debian 7.0.4, how can i check which "system" files was changed during exploitation?
10:57<dualbus>brainm: what exploitation?
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10:58<brainm>for example after trojan actions
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10:58<petn-randall>brainm: From within the system? Not at all.
10:58<dualbus>brainm: a trojan in debian? uh..?
10:59<jmw>brainm: if you think it's been compromised, you can no longer trust it. you should wipe it and start again (hard lesson to learn, but.._
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11:00<brainm>i mean hacker brute force my ssh password, install some staff. Now i want to find his traces
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11:00<brainm>may be something like default checksum of packages and configs
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11:01<dualbus>brainm: turn of that system, take out the hard-drive, and read it from another machine, or use a live-cd
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11:02<jmw>debsums perhaps, but remember that nothing on the system is trustworthy any longer
11:02<dualbus>brainm: if the hacker messed up with the system, then you can not longer trust the binaries in there.
11:03<petn-randall>brainm: Yeah, but the intruder could have changed your tools that generate checksums, to hide his presence. You have to take the system offline and analyze it from there.
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11:06<brainm>Thanks for all
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11:15<brainm>I found command for CentOS "rpm -Va" - search for changed system files. Are there something like this for debian (for apt-get or dpkg)?
11:16<jmw>dpkg: tell brainm about debsums
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11:20<brainm>jmw, thankyou
11:20<jmw>you're welcome
11:20<jmw>just don't forget that you can't trust anything on there, including debsums
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11:22<brainm>Ok, i understand. It was theoretical question, i'm really do not have such problem, just want to be awared.
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11:26<jmw>rkhunter can be useful too
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11:26<brainm>yes, and fail2ban
11:27<jmw>fail2ban is no good after the event
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11:28<brainm>And yet one question. I want to receive some of cron result to email using smtp (with https and auth), what is the best way to send email with attachment from console?
11:28<jmw>to a remote smtp server? probably a well-configured mutt
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11:35<brainm>msmtp looks good
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11:50<chaos>which proxy do you recommend if i want to fool fucking imdb's localization?
11:52<saulo>Hello! I'm trying to recover files from a disk, but when I recover the file I see data from another part of the disk. To be more clear: I'm trying to recover an audio file, but the recover returns me a slice of image, like at wrong part of the disk. Can I get help here? Or there are some other channel where I can get help?
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11:57<canint>does anybody use an ltsp server?
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12:02<dualbus>saulo: what program are you using to recover the audio? in what format is that audio?
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12:26<saulo>dualbus: testdisk, it'sn an AMR audio
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12:27<saulo>dualbus: this is the first time I see something like this with a FAT disk...
12:28<cae>when building a package from source, where do I have to put additional ./configure options like --with-foobar?
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12:28<saulo>dualbus: The file was removed with an Android device
12:29<saulo>cae: ./configure --with-foo --with-bar --another-option <- its this?
12:30<saulo>cae: you can see the options with "./configure --help"
12:30<cae>saulo: yes, but I think it can be put somewhere in debian/rules or so
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12:31<cae>because '$ fakeroot debian/rules binary' will ./configure if neccessary
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12:32<bullgard4>Wikipedia: "inetd is a super-server daemon on many Unix systems that manages Internet services. It first appeared in 4.3BSD." Why is it not automatically installed on Debian wheezy?
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12:33<saulo>cae: hum... ok... better wait someone more response then xD
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12:34<stummi>bullgard4, why should it be?
12:34<bullgard4>Stummi: Please re-read my question.
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12:35<stummi>bullgard4, you quoted a wikipedia sentence and asked, why this package is not installed by default. Did I miss something? I don't get the problem
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12:36<stummi>there arn't any services needing the inetd per default, so why should inetd be there per default?
12:36<cae>saulo: the 'hello' example package debian/rules has an own 'build:' target, but the package I'm working at hasn't... so I probably just have to add it. Thanks for your thougths
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12:37<stummi>bullgard4, if you need it, you still can install it
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12:37<bullgard4>Stummi: The logic is simple. inetd is a super-server daemon on many Unix systems that manages Internet services. Debian wheezy needs to manage Internet services too. Why does it not install inetd as many Unix systems do?
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12:38<centrx>bullgard4, inetd was replaced by xinetd?
12:38<SynrG>bullgard4: so if all your friends did drugs, you would think it's a good idea to do drugs too?
12:38<feeceight>how do I instruct wodim to write to optical media with Joliet and Rock-Ridge extensions when burning ordinary data, not a disk image? Like -R and -J in growisofs?
12:39<centrx>bullgard4, Or inetutils-inetd, it looks like there many inetd's available in Debian
12:39<stummi>bullgard4, not every internet service needs inetd. These days, the most ones dont't need it as they just open their socket themself
12:39<SynrG>bullgard4: i'm pretty sure any service *requiring* inetd will depend on one.
12:40<SynrG>user would rather not have servers running on their system that don't do anything at all useful for them
12:40<bullgard4>Right. - Thank you.
12:41<SynrG>the whole superserver idea was an optimization in the days of scarcity of resources ...
12:41<SynrG>"why have multiple, redundant services, all of which have some common code to handle inet stuff?"
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12:42<SynrG>and "why have services running at all if they aren't needed yet? we can just start them as needed ..."
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12:42<SynrG>it's an optimization that in modern systems is no longer needed.
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12:43<stummi>Its not just about saving resources. Its more flexible if a service just uses stdint and stdout to communicate, so it can be wrappend around a fifo, socket, file, pipe or whatever
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12:44<SynrG>ah, that too. hadn't thought of that use case :)
12:44<SynrG>it has been such a long time
12:44<SynrG>but in terms of resources, inetd internalized a bunch of "small" services
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12:46<SynrG>and traded "don't have to have as much real memory consumed by services not constantly in use" for slower startup time
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12:54<bullgard4>Thank you for this remumé.
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12:54<bullgard4>Thank you for this resumé.
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13:08<soundconjurer>I have a small but important problem with the gnome software manager in Debian.
13:08<soundconjurer>It definitely doesn't work...
13:08<soundconjurer>I have to use apt-get or synaptic, for me that is fine.
13:09<Maulkin>soundconjurer: Hi there, what's the issue you're having?
13:09<soundconjurer>It doesn't check for new software.
13:09<soundconjurer>When I run it, I am using Debian Wheezy.
13:09<soundconjurer>It just doesn't check for new software
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13:09<soundconjurer>I think it is because it is not running in root.
13:10<Maulkin>soundconjurer: What version of Debian is this out of interest?
13:11<soundconjurer>7.4 Wheezy
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13:12<soundconjurer>When I go to applications, then "Software Update" it runs like it is working. But at no point does it actually check for updates.
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13:15<Maulkin>soundconjurer: Ok, if you go to "Software & Updates" - do you see that in the menus?
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13:16<Maulkin>Ok, can you set that to check for updates more than manually?
13:16<soundconjurer>i'll brb, if you post it, I will look for it
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13:16<soundconjurer>if you are still here, i'll let you know if it worked :D
13:17<soundconjurer>thank you
13:17<Maulkin>No problems
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13:38<judd>Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.13-trunk-686-pae (3.13-1~exp1); sid: 3.13-1-686-pae (3.13.4-1); jessie: 3.12-1-686-pae (3.12.9-1); wheezy-backports: 3.12-0.bpo.1-686-pae (3.12.9-1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.54-2); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.2.51-1~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-48squeeze4)
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13:42<SynrG>centrx: /msg judd kernels
13:43<SynrG>!tell centrx about msg the bot
13:43<centrx>I know
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13:43<centrx>Channel was idle so I didn't think it mattered
13:43<SynrG>still good to cultivate the habit, and you caused a needless window check for me :p
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13:50<lostatwork>!tell lostson about msg the bot
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13:50<SynrG>lostatwork: you win the "Most ironic use of <msg the bot> factoid" award
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13:53<lostatwork>SynrG: thanks, just trying to learn
13:53<lostatwork>I am now reading the wiki pages as well
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14:00<sensenmann>whois debhelper
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14:15<soundconjurer>Ok, back to the "Software Update" that doesn't work.
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14:23<soundconjurer>Maulkin, I fixed it.
14:26<Maulkin>soundconjurer: Cool :)
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14:28<soundconjurer>"Package management applications are security sensitive.
14:28<soundconjurer>Running graphical applications as a privileged user should be avoided for security reasons."
14:29<soundconjurer>Is there something else I can do... or is "gksu gpk-update-viewer" sufficient
14:29<soundconjurer>for the menu
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14:36<soundconjurer>Maulkin, should I be worried about that warning?
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14:46<senolc_eht>hi.. i want to ask about the cedarview graphic driver progress. is there any progress..?
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14:49<petn-randall>senolc_eht: It's custom to wait a few minutes for an answer, on slow times you can wait up to 2 hours for an answer.
14:50<petn-randall>senolc_eht: Which release are you running?
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14:51<senolc_eht>debian wheezy
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14:52<senolc_eht>at this moment I'm upgrading to testing version.
14:53<petn-randall>senolc_eht: wheezy is released, and as such, won't get any new features such as new graphics drivers. Unless it already works now, you chances are rather slim that it will work in wheezy in the future.
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14:54<petn-randall>senolc_eht: Ah, in that case head over to #debian-next, where jessie and sid are supported.
14:54<senolc_eht>petn-randall : ok thanks
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15:01<bullgard4>On a remote ARM Linux machine: '~ # find / -name 'ram_bin' 2>/dev/null; /ram_bin.' What is the function of this directory? (Google does not find it.)
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15:02<jordanm>bullgard4: it wasn't put there by debian provided software
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15:02<bullgard4>jordanm: He guy, I need to work with it from Debian!
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15:06<bullgard4>centrx: A very good idea. This brings me ahead. - Thank yiu very much for your suggestion.
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15:10*petn-randall assumed people at least try Google before asking on IRC.
15:12<Manquito>hi there, someone can help me? i want to build a high performance cluster... but only see older guides no one works... ... someone can give me one guide or tutorial? sry for my english, im spanish...
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15:16<centrx>Manquito, Also try asking on OFTC in #debian (or #debian-es on either network)
15:16<centrx>Manquito, On Freenode #debian rather
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15:16<Manquito>on -es anyone can help me xD
15:17<Manquito>i just need a guide:(
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15:17<centrx>I do not know of a guide for HPC
15:17<Manquito>i dnt see anything on google
15:17<Manquito>just 1
15:18<Manquito>openmoxis... dont works
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15:18<petn-randall>!doesn't work
15:18<dpkg>"Doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions>, <sicco> and <errors>.
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15:21<Manquito>dont works
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15:21<Manquito>i dnt need to solve error
15:21<Manquito>i need a guide for install HP cluster
15:21<Manquito>i looking 4 that on google but dont see anything
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15:29<bodie_>thanks petn-randall, jhutchins :)
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15:36<tototo>hello has anyone managed to install Debian on a macbook air3,1 ?
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15:40<petn-randall>tototo: Very likely.
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15:42<acu>hello guys - how GSoC works, the student needs to have a debian developer as mentor ? we want do "debianize" EDX-code (it is the course management system built on python and django) which is an alternative to Moodle (php based), currently EDX is running on Ubuntu
15:46<jordanm>acu: what is the software license?
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15:56<Rhonda>acu: There is #debian-gsoc for that. :)
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15:56<Rhonda>Erm, #debian-soc rather.
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16:00<acu>Rhonda, thanks
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16:04<jthomas_>I have a 2008-era, silver-backed iMac desktop all-in-one. I put a new SSD in it and I want to install Debian. Can anyone point me to instructions to do this? I've not found EFI instructions that don't involve chainloading off the Apple OSX software, and my SSD has none of that.
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16:07<dpkg>[apple] a fruit, or Apple Inc. (formerly Apple Computer, Inc.), a consumer electronics and software company. . See also <airport>, <alac>, <combo drive>, <daap>, <hfs>, <hfsplus>, <imac>, <ipod>, <m68k>, <macbook>, <mac mini>, <open firmware>, <powerpc>, <quicktime>, <superdrive>. ##apple on
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16:09<jthomas_>Yeah that link doesn't have half of the models I've clicked on
16:10<musca>i just noticed that, too
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16:11<jthomas_>I've hit the main Google results, I was hoping for a bit more useful info
16:11<musca>the point is, you need REFIT to maintain the EFI bootstrap
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16:12<jthomas_>I installed Debian, it wouldn't boot. I booted into LiveCD Rescue Mode, installed rEFIt, and nothing happened. I couldn't find any info on how to use or configure that software
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16:14<rlyshw>Hi, I'm currently running a server on debian wheezy. Is it possible to run a vm on this server and install debian testing, for development purposes?
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16:15<dualbus>rlyshw: sure it's possible. Just make sure that if the server is also virtualized, it's probably going to be slow unless the virtualizer exports the virt. extensions
16:15<dualbus>also consider using LXC, which is a bit more lightweight
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16:17<sney>a chroot might be better option, especially if you're already running a newer kernel than stable (as many vps providers do)
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16:18<rlyshw>sney: so I can essentially create a chroot environment inside of Debian, without running an entire vm?
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16:20<r28>hola necesito ayuda
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16:21<shop>hello folks
16:21<r28>mi ubuntu esta en ingl{es
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16:21<r28>y lo necesito en español
16:21<shop>I'm Henry151 from just a minute ago
16:22<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
16:22<shop>is this the freenode debian channel or another channel?
16:23<devil_>shop: this is oftc
16:23<musca>shop: here is
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16:23<devil_>and no, you were niot in here before as henry whatever
16:24<centrx>Must have been on Freenode
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16:26<Endoril>hello. my debian server doesnt stop after services shutdown with the error "rcu_bh_state detected stalls on CPUs/tasks: { 0 } (detected by 1, 15527 jiffies)." i ve just found but i dont see a solution. im under 3.2 amd64 Xen wheezy
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16:27<Endoril>maybe another kernel via backports but its a little much ?
16:29<sney>it's worth a shot, since you can switch back to the 3.2 kernel easily if it doesn't solve your problem
16:29<Endoril>ok, i dont know if lastest kernels are available with xen, but ill search
16:30<SynrG>you mean cranking up the timeout doesn't help?
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16:31<SynrG>though 21 seconds does seem like an awful long time for a default
16:32<Endoril>timeout ?
16:32<SynrG>the link you gave ...
16:32<SynrG>"This configuration parameter may be changed at runtime via the
16:32<SynrG> /sys/module/rcutree/parameters/rcu_cpu_stall_timeout"
16:33<Endoril>true. i dunno why its so long
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16:34<SynrG>or turning it *down*? don't know
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16:34<Endoril>maybe the vm ? but they are stopped at the beginning
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16:35<Endoril>need to recompile, 2.12 is fatser (if available with xen), but if not ill try
16:35<Endoril>just to turn off ^^
16:35<Endoril>3.12 sorry
16:36<Endoril>thanks, it give me a 2nd solution =)
16:36<Endoril>ill try all of that
16:37<SynrG>RCU bugs can often be debugged with the help of CONFIG_RCU_TRACE
16:37<SynrG>and with RCU's event tracing. For information on RCU's event tracing,
16:37<SynrG>see include/trace/events/rcu.h.
16:37*SynrG shrugs
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16:37<SynrG>i really don't know if tweaking that parameter would change anything.
16:38<SynrG>it seems to just say "we're not going to call it a stall until 21 seconds have passed"
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16:38<SynrG>i don't htink that actually affects the stall itself at all
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16:40<r28>hey alguna persona que pueda ayudar en este canal para colocar a español mi ubuntu
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16:41*rlyshw is amazed by debootstrap
16:42<r28>ok estoy bajando debian o acaso no es el el hermano de ubuntu ??? es linux igual
16:43<dpkg>Ubuntu esta basado en Debian, pero no es Debian, y dificilmente tendra los estandares de Debian. Solo Debian es soportado en #debian. Por favor conectese a #ubuntu-es en Ahi recibira mas soporte.
16:43<r28>thanks yo very much yor information is a very important for my system
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16:44<SynrG>rlyshw: do you have a support question, or did you just come to gush? :)
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16:45<rlyshw>SynrG: i found debootstrap to be the answer to my question from earlier and am gushing.
16:45<SynrG>ah. great
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16:53<andres_>allo ciao
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17:16<sergey>how can I track who tries to hack my pc?
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17:16<sergey>and can someone give me the best solution to max protect it
17:17<mtn>sergey: don't connect to the internet is by far the max protection
17:17<sergey>ye I know it
17:17<sergey>but still, I need it
17:17<mtn>sergey: a router and common sense should make you pretty safe
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17:19<sergey>got routers
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17:19<sergey>still feeling myself unsafe
17:19<mtn>sergey: how about common sense? :P
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17:20<sergey>im sure I am getting tracked
17:20<mtn>sergey: alrighty then ;)
17:20<sergey>I got today 1gb ram used more than always
17:20<sergey>without any additional software
17:20<sergey>and internet lowered by like 30%
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17:21<sergey>+ some suspicious processes in tasks
17:21<centrx>What awere the suspicious processes?
17:21<sergey>the question is who doing that
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17:22<sergey>there was like 120 processes
17:22<sergey>and when I am working I open max up to 100
17:22<sergey>I don't remember myself installing some server stuff too, and now I saw that my pc runs it
17:22<sergey>looks like someone tries to make me host for somebody something without my knowledge
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17:23<centrx>Who are your enemies?
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17:24<sergey>& russia
17:24*mtn gives sergey a tin foil hat
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17:24<centrx>Are you involved with any revolutionary or counter-revolutionary groups?
17:24<sergey>I was discussing
17:24<sergey>we got revolution over here
17:25<sergey>in Ukraine
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17:25<centrx>Is your computer connected to any sensitive confidential networks?
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17:26<sergey>im sure other hackers attacking me
17:26<sergey>my friends in past
17:26<sergey>enemies now
17:27<centrx>Perhaps if you offer them a local user account, they will not try to gain root access?
17:27<musca>they will!
17:28<sergey>gonna ddos all of them
17:29<sergey>their nub website
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17:30<musca>sergey: perhaps the NSA might help against russia
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17:31<chealer>sergey: which Debian suite do you use?
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17:34<sergey>chealer: microsoft windows 98
17:34<sergey>chealer: thinking to upgrade to windows 2000, why ask?
17:35<sney>cool, it's like an extra sunday
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17:37<sergey>actually I am total noob about unix systems
17:37<sergey>tried only linux mint/cinnamon and now logged on ubuntu
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17:38<sergey>was interested in debian, but I am too scared to try it out
17:38<dpkg>The Debian Live project provides pre-built Debian live system images and allows creation of your own. These can be used to install a Debian system. Live images are available from . #debian-live on
17:39<chealer>sergey: I doubted you were using a secure OS, for some reason
17:39<sergey>actually everything is fine with my unix system in both server and laptop
17:39<chealer>sergey: this channel is for support with Debian GNU/Linux usage, not for general technical discussions
17:40<sergey>I got dual boot on my laptop, and discovered that memory usage etc. while my win7 was running
17:40<sergey>I just wanted to chat with somebody
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17:41<sergey>these chats and stuff like how is going here I just love it, the way people communicate and help each other
17:41<sergey>+ practising my noob english
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17:41<sergey>well sorry
17:41<sney>sergey: you might want #debian-offtopic or #moocows then
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17:44<sergey>I'll just go sleep, thanks for being with me you are best guys =)
17:44<centrx>sergey, There is channel on Freenode for learning English: ##English
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17:45<sergey>idk how I even got onto this channel :D
17:45<sergey>usually it logged me onto ubuntu
17:45<sergey>btw wacom tablet doesn't work on ubuntu
17:46<dpkg>This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://
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17:46<musca>good xchat!
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17:55<chealer>I can't quite decide whether that was a troll or a poor soul
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17:56<centrx>He did say he was running Windows 98
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17:58<chealer>planning to upgrade to Windows 2000... probably a poor troll
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18:01<chealer>OK, got to restart and finish that libc5 upgrade
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18:52<david`>I'm doing a fresh install of 7.4, installing bootstrap-base has just failed
18:53<david`>sed error after "Unpacking libc6-i686..."
18:53<david`>anyone got any advice how to figure out what went wrong?
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19:00<david`>NVM my problem fixed itself when I ran the installation again
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19:01<Boltex>anyone know how to modyfy environment variables
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19:04<Nemoder>export VAR=value
19:05<Boltex>Nemoder, i must use environment variables to one file
19:05<Boltex>and this file must me running from another place in system
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19:07<Boltex>do you know what to do this shit?
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19:11<Brigo>bolt, like Nemoder told you export VAR=value
19:12<david`>I'm still getting a problem during installation, after "Setting up libc6-i686:i386 ...": "sed: bad option in substitution expression"
19:12<Boltex>export deb=lol
19:12<Boltex>echo $deb ?
19:12<david`>I'm guessing it's a problem in one of the post-install scripts
19:13<david`>not sure how it's coming up in bootstrap-base though
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19:14<Boltex>something like that?
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19:15<Brigo>Boltex, exactly, and to see all you can use the set command withaout arguments.
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19:18<themill>or, better, "env"
19:18<Boltex>but I still dont know how to use this my environment variables on file
19:18<themill>you might need to explain what you mean by that
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19:21<Boltex>I must modify the environment variable that the file can be run from any directory system
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19:21<Brigo>bolt, any directory??
19:23<Boltex>I'm trying to do this for a few hours and still do not have a clue how to go about it.
19:23<themill>Boltex: do you mean that you have a new executable and you want your shell to be able to find it so you can just run it?
19:25<Boltex>file.txt or any
19:26<themill>I have no idea what you mean by that.
19:27<themill>Perhaps you could put what you want to be able to do in a pastebin (along with what currently happens when you try it)
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19:29<Boltex>This is one of the tasks of homework.
19:29<Boltex>Modify the environment variable so that the file "LOL" you can run from any directory system.
19:29<Brigo>Boltex, do you know about the PATH variable?
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19:29<dpkg>well, homework is something you should do yourself.
19:30<Boltex>you mean $PATH?
19:30<Boltex>i read some about it
19:30<Boltex>about two hours ago
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19:31<dpkg>PATH is the environment variable that tells the OS where to look for programs. It is defined in /etc/profile or ~/.bash_profile or ~/.profile (for sh-like shells) or ~/.login for csh-like shells.
19:31<Boltex>I did everything except this
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19:36<Boltex>black magic
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20:42-!-us`0gb is "" on #oftc #moocows #debian-offtopic #debian-next #debian #
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20:48<Nameless2132>SynrG still there?
20:48<sney>much as I like him, SynrG is not the only qualified helper here. if you have a debian question you can ask it whether he's here or not
20:49<Nameless2132>I was just wondering. I also have a question though. Is it possible to have two DE's installed and rapidly switch between them without restart?
20:50<Nameless2132>Like OpenBox and Gnome?
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20:51<sney>openbox isn't a DE, but yes, you can log out and switch sessions
20:51<Nameless2132>Okay. What is openbox if not a DE though?
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20:51<centrx>"window manager" (WM)
20:51<sney>it's a window manager. DE stands for desktop environment, which means it's a collection of applications
20:51<Nameless2132>Ah. My bad.
20:52<Nameless2132>I'm also looking for a kindof hotkey based WM, anyone have any recommendations?
20:52<mentor>And the differences between a window manager and a desktop environment are the subject of much controversey
20:52<oldlaptop>ratpoison (get it?) is supposed to be *entirely* keyboard based
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20:53<Nameless2132>I'll look them up.
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20:53<Nameless2132>I'm kind of just looking for change right now.
20:53<oldlaptop>you can configure a lot of keyboard bindings under KDE
20:53<sney>yeah you can have every wm/de available installed as long as you have the disk space for them
20:55<Nameless2132>What is the absolute simplest WM?
20:55<Nameless2132>or DE...
20:55<mentor>It's lacks some features though
20:55<lostatwork>tiling window managers are very keyboard driven xmonad nation rat poison and awesome just to name a few
20:55<themill>"some" or "any"
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20:55<sney>it is the answer to that particular question, though
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20:56<Nameless2132>I think I'll try Xmonad. I've heard good things about it.
20:56<oldlaptop>that's just for the window manager
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20:57<oldlaptop>(i.e. stuff for manipulating windows)
20:57<oldlaptop>of course KDE is anything but simple...
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20:57<Nameless2132>Haha, yeah
20:57<oldlaptop>kwin actually does tiling, by the way
20:57<Nameless2132>I guess i'll install OpenBox, Xmonad and kde
20:58<oldlaptop>openbox is a fantastic minimal window manager
20:58<oldlaptop>if you're not into the whole keyboard-driven-tiling thing
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20:58<Nameless2132>that's why i like it
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20:59<Nameless2132>I run two servers in the background so all the cpu and ram not going into my DE/WM is a bit more for the servers.
20:59<oldlaptop>what kind of servers?
21:00<Nameless2132>A minecraft server and a simple web server
21:00<Nameless2132>I don't have a very good computer though so it really takes a toll
21:00<oldlaptop>the web server won't need much in the way of resources at all, unless it actually gets significant traffic
21:00<oldlaptop>minecraft on the other hand...
21:00<Nameless2132>Yeah, the minecraft server though.
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21:01<Nameless2132>I actually have to redo the web server, i accidentally deleted the thing
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21:02<Nameless2132>Not sure how o_O
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21:20<wardhan>i have added i386 on 64 using dpkg given on debian wiki, but when dpkg --print-architecture it prints only amd64. can someone pls shed light on this.
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21:20<rjsalts>wardhan: dpkg --print-foreign-architectures
21:20<mentor>wardhan: You can have i386 packages on an amd64 system. Go multiarch!
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21:22<wardhan>rjsalts: thanks for the command, it indeed showing i386.
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21:25<wardhan>i am trying to install steam:i386. how do i install steam by automatically pulling all the packages ?
21:26<mentor>wardhan: Pulling in dependencies shouldn't require any further configuration. Are you using any sort of package pinning?
21:26<rjsalts>wardhan: once you've done dpkg --add-architecture then apt-get update and you should then be able to do apt-get install steam:i386
21:28<wardhan>mentor: i am using libgl1-mesa-glx from experimental & i am running sid.
21:29<mentor>wardhan: Does that mean you have some pinning configured?
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21:30<wardhan>mentor: no i have not configured any pinning.
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21:30<mentor>wardhan: I'm asking because it may be preventing i386 libraries which have to be the same version as amd64 being pulled in
21:32<mentor>What happens when you try to install steam?
21:32<oldlaptop>wardhan: also, sid/testing are supported in #debian-next, generally
21:33<oldlaptop>not really a problem right now since there's not much activity in either place anyhow
21:33<wardhan>it shows the following message : steam:i386 : Depends: libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 but it is not going to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
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21:35<oldlaptop>perhaps you need to explicitly install libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 from experimental? Or else downgrade to sid's version
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21:37<mentor>wardhan: There won't be an i386 version of that library at that version available
21:37<mentor>wardhan: Because it's from experimental
21:38<rjsalts>wardhan: and apt-get -t experimental install libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 might help
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21:39<rjsalts>wardhan: or just do what I do whenever apt can't solve dependency stuff. Just open up the aptitude gui and see what it's complaining about yourself
21:40<oldlaptop>that is probably the one thing aptitude-curses is clearly better at than apt-get/aptitude on commandline
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22:15<caravel>hi, I'd like to set an rdiff-backup-fs (fuse) mount, so that the user would have access to the mounted fs, but not to the repository (which is cron'ed via backupninja)
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22:17<caravel>(it's only the user/private files' backup repo)
22:18<caravel>I wouldn't mind if it was mounted on-demand from a shortcut on Thunar (XFCE), or if it was auto from fstab
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22:19<caravel>I can't figure the "right way" to handle permissions.. whatever I do the user gets denied the repository or the fs mount
22:19<caravel>should I bind or something?
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22:39<Guest2346>Does anyone here use their own email server?
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22:57<jKlaus>anyone here have issue of internal speakers cutting out every so often
22:57<jKlaus>audio still works over headphone jack but not over speakers
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