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#debian IRC Logs for 2014-03-07

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01:03<mask>can i-nex for ubuntu be used on debian?
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01:04<mask>I'm looking for a program like cpu-z for windows, is there a better choice for debian than i-nex?
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01:04<jm_>is the information in /proc/cpuinfo not good enough?
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01:06<firechariot>is there somebody whom has heard about a fix for the nautilus search problem?
01:07<mask>jm_, that file does give very good information, but what if i want a dynamic display of information as i run something?
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01:07<SamB>firechariot: no, I've never heard of anyone who knew how to locate the nautilus
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01:09<jm_>mask: nothing in that file changes over time, what info exactly are you looking for?
01:09<ncl>jm_: I think cpu-z gives more information than just the cpu info
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01:09<jm_>mask: ok, frequency would change, but not other info
01:11<mask>jm_, hmm, good point, i thought cpu-z (and i-nex) did more, i guess other than the frequency the only real difference is display
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01:11<jm_>mask: there's also cpuid tool, which shows some more info/in a different format
01:12<mask>jm_, what is that called?
01:12<mask>just cpuid tool?
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01:12<jm_>mask: cpuid is both the package name and executable name
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01:14<mask>jm_, well, if its as easy as installing through the terminal i guess its worth a try
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01:17<mask>jm_, but now im just curious, if the file is supposedly designed for ubuntu, but ends in a .deb, will it still work on a debian system?
01:19<jm_>mask: not usually no, especially not on debian stable
01:19<mask>ok, thx
01:20<jm_>no problem
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04:28<alin>hello
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05:07<ktosiek>Can I check which repo (or which release) installed packages come from?
05:07<babilen>dpkg: tell ktosiek -about which repo
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05:09<ktosiek>so, parsing apt-cache policy is the only way?
05:10<jm_>dpkg listed at least 3 options
05:10<devil>there is a perl script *somewhere* on the net
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05:10<devil>and aptitude has some magic to show it
05:12<devil>and after 5 seconds of google search I found: aptitude search '?narrow(?installed,?not(?archive(testing)) ?archive(unstable))'
05:12<ktosiek>ok, so, is any of those other 2 options using a data source other than what apt-cache policy uses?
05:13<ktosiek>it all sounds like they depend on installed version of the package being visible in one of current repositories
05:13<babilen>ktosiek: What are you trying to do?
05:13<babilen>ktosiek: yes, there is no other way.
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05:15<ktosiek>I have some boxes with a mix of different debian releases and some ubuntu releases (and some PPAs) in sources.list, and I'm trying to get hang of what came from where
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05:16<SynrG>why? if i had that i'd just shoot myself and be done with it
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05:17<devil>:)
05:17<ktosiek>well, shooting the guy who made would be hard (he's half a world away, and not working here anymore)
05:17<SynrG>darn
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05:18<ktosiek>and I'm not shooting myself any time soon, I'm rebuilding this thing from scratch. I just need to get to know it enough to fix problems in case of emergency until it's scraped
05:18*SynrG nods
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05:19<SynrG>ktosiek: sounds like you might benefit from backports and/or self-built packages.
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05:21<ktosiek>backports? how?
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05:21<ktosiek>BTW is there any apt repository with all (or at least most) of the versions that were in debian?
05:21<babilen>dpkg: tell ktosiek -about backports
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05:21<babilen>dpkg: tell ktosiek -about snapshots
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05:22<babilen>ktosiek: The rule of thumb is: Never mix releases
05:22<ktosiek>thanks for snapshots, I still don't know what SynrG means by benefiting from backports here
05:23<ktosiek>oh, to not mix releases in my new setup?
05:23<SynrG>ktosiek: if the motivation for mixing releases was "but debian doesn't have this version of this package" then backports would help
05:23<SynrG>yes
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05:23<SynrG>don't do that. it's not supported or supportable.
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05:25<ktosiek>BTW is it common to have the same versions (I mean exact same version names) in multiple releases?
05:26<babilen>ktosiek: If nothing changed, sure .. I wouldn't say that it is common, but it definitely happens.
05:27<babilen>Well, it might be more common that I make it out to be due to the large number of packages in Debian, but a lot of the high-profile packages do change
05:28<ktosiek>Right, I wonder if apt-inventory + snapshots would give me a lot of "multi-distro" packages
05:28<TobiX>,v sdate
05:28<judd>Package: sdate on i386 -- jessie: 0.3.1+nmu1; sid: 0.3.1+nmu1; squeeze: 0.3.1+nmu1; wheezy: 0.3.1+nmu1
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05:29<TobiX>ktosiek: Simple packages like this one might even have the same version over multiple stable releases ;)
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05:30<ME4NINGL35542>anyone here know how to use CUPS?
05:30<ME4NINGL35542>to install a printer?
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05:31<ME4NINGL35542>if you have experience please feel free to share
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05:33<TobiX>ME4NINGL35542: Did you read the *fine* manual? e.g. https://wiki.debian.org/SystemPrinting
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05:41<babilen>ME4NINGL35542: Many people do, just go to https://localhost:631 after having installed CUPS and configure your printer. (Administration → Add Printer) -- Please provide more information if you have actual problems doing that.
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05:45<Yogui>hi there
05:46<ME4NINGL35542>hi
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05:46<Yogui>i'm having problems building libpng with the correct zlib version, can anyone please help me?
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05:47<ME4NINGL35542>too l33t for me...
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05:51<Apollo>Yogui: be a bit more specific with your issues
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05:53<Yogui>I am still with a Lenny system, and trying to build libpng-1.6.10 which needs zlib-1.2.4+
05:53<babilen>ME4NINGL35542: You really should repeat in here what you said to me in private ... otherwise the crystall balls of everybody else in here have to be *very* powerful
05:54<babilen>judd: v libpng-1.6.10
05:54<judd>No package named 'libpng-1.6.10' was found in i386.
05:54<babilen>judd: v libpng16-16
05:54<judd>Package: libpng16-16 on i386 -- experimental: 1.6.8-2
05:54<babilen>hahaha
05:54<Yogui>I have built zlib-1.2.8 but libpng doesn't find it: it says "/usr/local/src/libpng-1.6.10/contrib/tools/pngfix.c:2179: undefined reference to `inflateReset2'"
05:54<Yogui>well, whatever libpng 1.6 release would do
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05:56<andy0082>Hello together. I need help for my debian jessie kde system. Because I installed it on my notebook, I need a applet in the tray-bar. After searching it seems the package network-manager-kde isn't available in jessie and I've installed network-manager and after that I was able to show the tray icon. But after opening the gui, there is no connection listed, but I still have a connection to the web. So I'm asking, did I installed the wrong pac
05:56<andy0082>kage and where is debian jessie hosting the config-files for connections?
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05:57<SynrG>first of all, jessie support is at #debian-next as per channel topic ...
05:57<andy0082>yep, exactly now I was reading it, sorry
05:57<SynrG>,v network-manager-kde
05:57<judd>Package: network-manager-kde on i386 -- squeeze: 1:0.9~svn1141976-1; squeeze-backports: 1:0.9+git20110422.810bc16-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 1:0.9.0.3-1
05:57<Yogui>I guess i could build zlib with a /usr prefix, but I'm not sure what effect that would have on the rest of the system
05:58<jm_>why not find out where/how libpng is looking for zlib
05:58<Yogui>jm_ I do not know how to do that
05:58<jm_>Yogui: what are the steps to build it?
05:59<Yogui>the steps are rather classic: ./configure --prefix=/usr/local --with-zlib-prefix=/usr/local --disable-static && make && make check && make install
06:00<Yogui>(from what I understand)
06:00<jm_>you mean you have to manually tell it to find zlib? it can't find it on its own?
06:00<Yogui>yes
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06:01<jm_>and it added /usr/local/whatever to link flags?
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06:01<Yogui>the undefined reference to inflateReset2 means it uses my system lib, not the one I built
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06:01<Yogui>jm_ no idea how to check that
06:01<jm_>Yogui: look at the command that reports the error
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06:03<Yogui>here's what I have: http://pastebin.com/kEqUZYTY
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06:05<jm_>I suppose it's missing -L/usr/local/lib
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06:08<Yogui>here's the install doc from libpng-1.6.10: http://pastebin.com/nBhr2t8E
06:09<Yogui>wait I just saw the paragraph that says "If you wish to test with a particular zlib that is not first in the standard library search path..."
06:09<Yogui>I'll try that
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06:13<ME4NINGL35542>Hey guys, I have a canon LBP2900 printer, I installed it using CUPS and picked a PPD file from the canon site, everything installed correctly, but it just won't print. Says printing in process
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06:13<morico>ola
06:13<ME4NINGL35542>does anyone know what's wrong?
06:13<morico>ola
06:13<morico>ola
06:13<morico>ola
06:13<morico>ola
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06:14<ME4NINGL35542>lpstat -r shows that "scheduler is running"
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06:16<ME4NINGL35542>i've tried on two linux operating systems and two printers, same problem. No errors shown on cups, but won't print
06:16<babilen>ME4NINGL35542: https://www.openprinting.org/printer/Canon/Canon-LBP_2900 classifies that printer as "paperweight" (i.e. useless on Linux)
06:16<TobiX>ME4NINGL35542: CUPS is notoriously bad in showing error messages :(
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06:17<ME4NINGL35542>Brother NFC945 multi scanner is the other printer that i tried
06:17<ME4NINGL35542>i used a raspberry pi
06:17<babilen>ME4NINGL35542: With Debian? (or raspbian which is not supported in here)
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06:17<TobiX>ME4NINGL35542: Did you install printer-driver-cjet?
06:18<ME4NINGL35542>i used raspbian and kali linux
06:18<babilen>ME4NINGL35542: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Canon_LBP2900 is what comes up -- I'd take it to a cups channel to be honest. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CanonCaptDrv190 has some information too.
06:18<babilen>ME4NINGL35542: Well, both are not Debian and not support by us.
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06:18<babilen>dpkg: tell ME4NINGL35542 about raspbian
06:18<babilen>dpkg: tell ME4NINGL35542 about kali
06:18<babilen>dpkg: tell ME4NINGL35542 about cups
06:19<babilen>ME4NINGL35542: I'd take it to ##cups on freenode and read the links + whatever you are able to dig up.
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06:22<obiwan>:aef hola
06:22<obiwan>fdsg
06:23<obiwan>hola #caca
06:23<obiwan>#caca gola
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06:26<dpkg>Este canal es de ayuda con ordenadores en Ingles. Si no necesitas ayuda con tu ordenador por favor ingresa al canal social de #debian-es con /join #debian-es-cachondeo. Tus amigos probablemente ya esten ahi.
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06:29<Yogui>jm_ never mind, i followed the instructions with all the "export" commands, and the build worked
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06:48<stevenm_>Any recommendations for something more lightweight than icewm? i literally just need something to draw the window borders - no taskbar required
06:48<stevenm_>i guess metacity would do
06:49<SynrG>openbox and undecorate
06:49<SynrG>oh, borders, hmm
06:49<SynrG>what are you trying to do? simulate fullscreen for an app that doesn't have it?
06:50<SynrG>http://superuser.com/questions/202199/metacity-remove-title-bar-from-xterm-windows-and-true-maximize
06:51<stevenm_>it's just a little Xvnc instance for showing one app
06:51<SynrG>ah. do you need a WM at all, then?
06:51<stevenm_>but the app makes dialog boxes occasionally
06:51<SynrG>you could just get the startx to launch Xvnc directly
06:51<SynrG>oh, i see. *inside* the Xvnc instance
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06:52<SynrG>misunderstood your problem
06:52<SynrG>so the dialog boxes have title bars and you don't like that
06:52<jm_>plenty to choose from, I wonder if it'll really be much liughter than icewm
06:52<stevenm_>no i don't mind the dialog boxes having title bars
06:52<jm_>you can also remove taskbar in icewm
06:52<stevenm_>i'm just not a fan of icewm as it has the taskbar that i don't need
06:53<SynrG>^^
06:53<SynrG>taskbar, duh. i misread that :)
06:53<SynrG>openbox
06:53<SynrG>that's really what you want
06:53<SynrG>it's light, standards-compliant, beautiful
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06:53<SynrG>no taskbar
06:54<petn-randall>Hi everyone, has anyone done a "bare metal" recovery with Bacula yet? I know how I'd do it technically, I'm more interested in the pitfalls you encounter on the way.
06:54<jm_>aptitude search '~d"(inim|ight).*window manager"' - there will be some not found with this (i.e. ratpoison)
06:54<SynrG>yeah, well
06:55<SynrG>both minimal and light are stupid words
06:55<SynrG>!lightweight
06:55<dpkg><mjg59> To a first approximation, when someone says "Lightweight" what they mean is "I don't understand the problems that the alternative solves". (http://mjg59.livejournal.com/136274.html)
06:56<SynrG>unless you're on a 15+ year old system or embedded platform with very scarce resources, i think openbox perfectly fits the bill here
06:57<stevenm_>SynrG, ok put it this way - if I'm after something with extremely minimum dependencies and is low on resources to simply draw some basic window borders and such - is openbox the thing? it's only a little Xvnc instance on a server so that a GUI can be shown for managing a SAN it is connected to.
06:57<SynrG>well, even if you are, it probably still is fine :)
06:57<SynrG> 7253 synrg 20 0 38096 5240 2096 S 0.0 0.1 2:23.47 openbox
06:57<SynrG>i think it's hard to get lighter than this
06:57<SynrG>and still remain reasonably featureful
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06:58<SynrG>stevenm_: check out apt-cache show openbox. the deps are very small.
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06:59<SynrG>will work fine without the two Recommends
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07:00<stevenm_>SynrG, i turn recommends off on my servers anyway
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07:01<SynrG>stevenm_: that takes some discipline to check the Recommends to make sure you don't miss stuff you really do need.
07:01<stevenm_>i know - i prefer it this way though
07:01<SynrG>different strokes for different folks :)
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07:37<maferv>how much more time is squeeze going to be supported?
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07:37<joelio>Is it possible to override a proxy for one host in the installer via a preseed? I know 'acquire::http::proxy::{fqdn}::direct' works in apt.conf - how to do in the installer thoguh?
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07:39<jm_>joelio: does this not work https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apbs04.html.en#preseed-apt B.4.4. Mirror settings
07:40<babilen>maferv: Until May (1 year after the wheezy release)
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07:41<joelio>jm_: the proxy configuration works, but I want to disable the proxy for my mirror which is local.. I still need the proxy set though for other sources as this isn't a routable network
07:42<joelio>cquire::http::Proxy::mirror.rd.bbc.co.uk "DIRECT";
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07:43<lapache>Hello, can't see U+26F5 (sailboat) and some others unicode chars on my computer, do i missed a font package or what ?
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07:44<jm_>joelio: ahh sorry, I misunderstood
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07:54<maferv>afterwards it is not going to receive security updates, is it babilen? how insecure would it be to keep using it on a desktop computer?
07:54<babilen>Why would you?
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07:55<babilen>lapache: You have to install suitable fonts (e.g. unifont)
07:55*jm_ expects that babilen can't predict the future
07:55<babilen>what? NOOO!
07:55*babilen caresses his crystal ball
07:56<jm_>in that case I'll have a lot of questions
07:56<maferv>because I do need it the way it is, would it be very insecure if I just used it on a desktop computer?
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07:58<babilen>maferv: I really wouldn't recommend to (unless you plan to never connect it to any network and nobody but you will have access to it)
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07:59<babilen>maferv: Why exactly do you need it "the way it is" ? What is it about "the way it is" that can not change? Do you plan to use it in this state in 1 year still? 2 years? 5 years? 15? 30?
07:59<maferv>around 6 months or a year
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08:00<maferv>I know, I wouldn't recommend it either, but I just wanted to know how serious it would be
08:01<babilen>maferv: I cannot know
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08:03<maferv>how can I find out when the latest security update for squeeze was released?
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08:04<babilen>dpkg: tell maferv -about 6.0.9
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08:05<babilen>maferv: That was the last point release, but there might have been uploads to squeeze-security in the interim. Check the packages file in the repo... I'm sure that corresponding mails are sent to some mailing list (e.g. security team), but I wouldn't be able to tell you which.
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08:06<babilen>maferv: Please note that squeeze is *already* insecure as a number of fixes will not have been backported.
08:06<babilen>dpkg: tell maferv -about tracker of doom
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08:07<maferv>that was less time than I thought
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08:08<babilen>maferv: So, back to: Why exactly do you need it "the way it is" ? What is it about "the way it is" that can not change?
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08:12<Kitt3n>Can I get some help with this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7049843/
08:13<Kitt3n>Trying to compile kio_afc to connect an ipad to debian jessie.. But I am getting errors (pasted in the link)
08:13<jm_>for jessie check the topic
08:14<Kitt3n>...Okay.
08:14<abrotman>Kitt3n: I'd think you would ask the people that wrote the code
08:14*abrotman also notes that compiling as root isn't the best idea
08:15<Kitt3n>abrotman: okay. right?
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08:18<maxy>Kitt3n: Where is idevice_event_t defined? You code uses the uuid and it seems to be missing in the definition. So it's using another api.
08:19<lapache>babilen: this isn't working with unifont ...
08:19<babilen>lapache: "this" ?
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08:53<morico>Hola capullos
08:53<Maulkin>!es-social
08:53<dpkg>Este canal es de ayuda con ordenadores en Ingles. Si no necesitas ayuda con tu ordenador por favor ingresa al canal social de #debian-es con /join #debian-es-cachondeo. Tus amigos probablemente ya esten ahi.
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08:55<morico>Gjasixa
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09:02<bremner>what's a good choice of mailing list manager for one or two small lists (40 or 50 addresses). Doesn't have to have a web management interface. Mailman seems overkill.
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09:04<Maulkin>bremner: Just install mailman.
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09:04<Maulkin>That's what I run for ~10 or so. It's much easier.
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09:05<linuxator>hi. how can I stop any media player from running automatically on mobile phone plugin?
09:05<bremner>ok. It seems to hang/screw up in one install I'm familiar with, but maybe it's just a badly setup host
09:05<Maulkin>linuxator: Um... I'm not sure what you mean. What version of Debian are you running, and what phone plugin are you talking about?
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09:06<linuxator>Madatnek, lataest Debian ,gnome
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09:07<zathras>gnome on a phone ??????
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09:08<zathras>latest: as in experimental?
09:08<Maulkin>linuxator: So, what version of Debian? And again, what phone? Debian doesn't have a phone version...
09:08<linuxator> I mean when I insert my phone usb plug
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09:09<linuxator>Mauan Android , Samsung S Galaxy Dous
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09:10<linuxator>Maulkin, Android , Samsung S Galaxy Dous
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09:10<linuxator>no.. I mean when I connect my phone to the laptop.
09:10<Maulkin>linuxator: What does "cat /etc/debian_version" in a terminal say?
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09:12<linuxator>Mau7.4
09:12<linuxator>Maulkin, 7.4
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09:21<linuxator>Maulkin, there is a key in debconf named : autorun-never. just set the tick ON. path is : org/gnome/desktop/media-handling/autorun-never
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09:25<lapache>babilen: printf '\u26F5' don't show me a boat but a square with the hex unicode
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09:26<babilen>wfm, you are obviously missing a suitable font
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09:26<babilen>lapache: What does "aptitude search '~i~n^fonts'" give you?
09:26<babilen>lapache: Oh, you are on wheezy, aren't you?
09:26<lapache>babilen: yes
09:27<babilen>lapache: Well, make it: aptitude search '~i~n^ttf' then
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09:27<planetmaker> http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/3164/ <-- known issue?
09:28*babilen hands planetmaker a link to http://bugs.debian.org
09:28<lapache>babilen: ttf-dejavu, ttf-dejavu-core, ttf-dejavu-extra, ttf-liberation, ttf-sil-gentium-basic, ttf-unifont
09:29<babilen>lapache: unifont has it. Where and how do you test?
09:30<babilen>lapache: Please open a gnome-terminal and start "python3" then run "print("\u26F5")" -- Make a screenshot and post it to picpaste or imgur so that I can see it.
09:31<planetmaker>babilen, yes... but I'm not exactly sure how to categorize that one even...
09:31<lapache>babilen: i type printf '\u26F5' into gnome-term using unifont font
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09:31<babilen>planetmaker: fwiw, I haven't seen nor heard of it
09:32<planetmaker>and there's sadly no way I can really reproduce it either. The upgrade is done. It's a production server. And ... that fault doesn't have any effect I found so far
09:32<babilen>lapache: "using unifont font" ? Did you restart Xorg after installing that font?
09:32<babilen>planetmaker: Hmm, yeah, it is weird.
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09:33<babilen>planetmaker: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=105165
09:33<babilen>(the only hit on google)
09:34<babilen>planetmaker: Did you get the "illegal instruction" too?
09:34<bhuddah_>https://xkcd.com/979/
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09:34<planetmaker>no illegal instruction. That's the full paste
09:34<babilen>bhuddah_: You obviously wanted a different channel so I will not lecture you on how this channel is strictly for technical support and that ot chatter should go to #debian-offtopic ;)
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09:35<babilen>planetmaker: ack, cpu microcode is up-to-date?
09:35<planetmaker>there was only this one segmentation fault at the very end of the update
09:35<planetmaker>uh... I'd not bet on that. It's an ancient machine
09:36<planetmaker>http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/3165/
09:36<babilen>bhuddah_: Oh, and now I see the connection .. sorry :D
09:36<planetmaker>but servers well for a tiny internal wiki ;)
09:36<planetmaker>s/servers/serves/
09:36<babilen>planetmaker: amd64-microcode is, however, installed?
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09:37<babilen>Oh and that is a sight I haven't seen in a while :)
09:37<babilen>d'aww
09:37<planetmaker>hm?
09:37<babilen>(such an old cpu)
09:38<planetmaker>no, the amd64-microcode is not installed
09:38<planetmaker>I went basically for defaults, I think
09:38<lapache>babilen: i think it's not needed. Do the printf '\u26F5' works for you ?
09:38<babilen>lapache: It does, yes
09:39<babilen>lapache: But I am not on wheezy, gnome-character-map lists it as being rendered using unifont too
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09:39<babilen>planetmaker: You should always install CPU microcode as CPU bugs are hard to debug.
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09:40<babilen>dpkg: tell planetmaker -about microcode
09:40<babilen>planetmaker: Not that your error is necessarily related, mind you.
09:41<planetmaker>:) well, I didn't know about that package so far. I guess I'll go and install it on all my systems. Just to be sure :) Thanks for that hint
09:41<babilen>planetmaker: It should be installed by default IMHO (which it would if it weren't for the fact that it is non-free)
09:41<babilen>dpkg: microcode
09:41<dpkg>Microcode are instructions/structures for implementing high-level machine code within processors. The Linux kernel can load updated microcode on most x86 processors. Microcode patches for Intel and AMD64 CPUs are packaged for Debian as intel-microcode and amd64-microcode respectively; installing the relevant package is recommended to ensure system stability. Ask me about <non-free sources>. http://wiki.debian.org/Microcode
09:41<babilen>everybody install ^^^
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09:56<flo1546796>hi, does somebody know a ZFS's snapshot web interface ?
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10:21<petn-randall>flo1546796: Usually web interfaces and serious admin tasks don't mix well.
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10:22<flo1546796>petn-randall, that's right...
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10:22<petn-randall>flo1546796: Guess that's proof that ZFS is serious business? ;)
10:23<flo1546796>:))
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10:23<flo1546796>petn-randall, ty and have a nice day
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10:34<simone>ciao
10:34<simone>!LIST
10:34<dpkg>simone: vedi http://packages.debian.org/
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11:00<amoe>Hey, on a fresh install, how can I add an account to read my mailbox in /var/mail to Icedove?
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11:04<simone_>ciao
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11:05<dpkg>Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help.
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11:09<SynrG>amoe: maybe not quite the same in my version, but try File > New > Other Accounts > Unix Mailspool (Movemail)
11:09<SynrG>amoe: that's correct for icedove 24.3.0-1
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11:51<maferv>babilen, thanks for the dpkg information on the tracker of doom, I just read it
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12:09<zsero_>hi is there a way to skip dpkg-genchanges in debuild?
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12:11<sney>why would you want to skip dpkg-genchanges
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12:11<zsero_>i am trying to compile a package which has not yet been compiled on amd64 just on arm
12:11<zsero_>dpkg-genchanges: error: cannot read files list file: No such file or directory
12:11<zsero_>dpkg-buildpackage: error: dpkg-genchanges gave error exit status 2
12:12<zsero_>or any other fix would be nice
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12:13<sney>zsero_: you should probably put the package names in debian/files then
12:15<sney>!nmg
12:15<dpkg>The packaging tutorial (http://deb.li/QYyI) and the New Maintainer's Guide (http://deb.li/3DiDA) are good places to start learning about Debian packaging. You should also ask me about <devref> and <policy> to understand how packages should be maintained and how they should interact with each other. Ask me about <package basics>, <mentors>, <best practices> <build without helper>. http://www.debian.org/devel/
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12:15<sney>zsero_: and packaging questions are usually better answered in #debian-mentors
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12:17<zsero_>thanks
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12:18<sney>zsero_: when I learned packaging I found it helpful to refer to an existing debian package in the archive, so I could see how it was supposed to look. it was a lot faster than doing it from scratch with just the manual
12:19<zsero_>can you recommend a simple package which I can look at?
12:20<sney>well, you can look at mine if you like. http://packages.debian.org/hexchat or if you have a deb-src line for sid in your sources.list, apt-get source hexchat
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12:34<jfeliz>i need help in spanish
12:34<jmw>!es
12:34<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
12:34<jfeliz>!thx
12:34<dpkg>THX (R), the next generation surround sound, developed by a George Lucas company. (mplayer is not certified), or just say "Thanks"
12:35<jmw>lol
12:35<jfeliz>jejeje
12:35<jfeliz>teh jmw
12:35<jfeliz>tex*
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12:51<yashwant>Any one know how to compile vim 7.3 to python.
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12:53<ompaul>yashwant: have a look at this I don't think it really is a debian question https://wiki.python.org/moin/Vim
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12:58<yashwant>ompaul: I am unable to understand, actually I have installed vim with command prompt.Now how to compile with python and ruby?
12:59<ompaul>yashwant: well then you need to use a simpler ide perhaps, nano, kate, or something else
13:00<ompaul>don't build too high a mountain and try to climb it
13:00<ompaul>one step at a time
13:00<planetmaker>yashwant, both ruby and python are interpreted languages
13:00<planetmaker>kinda
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13:01<planetmaker>they have no compiler
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13:03<yashwant>planetmaker: I want to compile vim with python, I want to use one vim plugins dependent upon python.
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13:04<ragnarok>hello
13:05<ragnarok>i begit test my packages with piuparts and have own repo
13:05<ragnarok>how to add a custom repo to piuparts to append to the source list in the chroot?
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13:06<ragnarok>i test with -m parameter but it alse add the distribution name "example "wheezy") and our repo have another name
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13:08<ragnarok>i also try the full repro entry to tme -m parameter "http://ourrepo/debian/ cool-packages main contrib" but the final test has "http://ourrepo/debian/ wheezy cool-packages main contrib" that is a malformed url
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13:11<ragnarok>fiuuu i omit the extra-repo parameter that works like i need. thanks all! =|
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13:12<Brigo>you are wellcome :-)
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13:34<jfeliz>!msg
13:34<dpkg>(1) Use private messages to the bots to reduce channel spam, but don't message people on #debian without asking permission first. Most questions should be asked on channel, so that others can benefit from the question and the answers received. (2) Always feel free to message freenode network staff. They're the people with hostnames ending in 'staff.freenode'. (3) Monosodium glutamate, a food additive (see http://truthinlabeling.org/).
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14:16<damiano>ciao
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14:34<morico>hola
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14:35<morico>someone out there?
14:35<morico>I need help with gdb?
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14:35<morico>can someone help me?
14:35<ompaul>morico: you have a debian question?
14:36<morico>no
14:36<morico>I was looking for a response, because I'm studying the IRC protocol
14:36<morico>sorry man
14:36<ompaul>well - good luck with that
14:36<morico>and thanks!
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15:03<outlaw>hi
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15:04<Maulkin>Hi there. How can we help?
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15:04<Guest2543>just testing irc
15:05<Guest2543>new to this
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15:06<Maulkin>Ok, well welcome :) This channel is for Debian technical support, so you may want to say hi in #moocows (/join #moocows) instead :)
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15:07<Guest2543>ok thanx maulkin
15:07<Guest2543>bye
15:07<gnomen>moo :P
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15:30<student>hghtr
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15:40<canaimachi>Hola
15:40<canaimachi>?
15:41<Maulkin>!es-social
15:41<dpkg>Este canal es de ayuda con ordenadores en Ingles. Si no necesitas ayuda con tu ordenador por favor ingresa al canal social de #debian-es con /join #debian-es-cachondeo. Tus amigos probablemente ya esten ahi.
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15:44<jifix>have anyone test debian gnu/hurd?
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15:51<mycae>Hi, Im having some problems logging into a remote box with SSH + X11. Its currently monitor-less, but was previously a desktop system. SSH itself is OK, X forwarding is not working. Does anyone know how to debug this ( cannot open display : remotehostname:10.0) : I've tried a few of the more obvious things... http://paste.debian.net/86102/
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15:52<centrx>mycae, Use ssh -X ?
15:52<mycae>ive tried -Y and -X
15:52<ompaul>mycae: ssh -X user@farawaymachine xterm
15:52<mycae>the X forwarding is accepted, but the display still wont open
15:53<musca>!sshx
15:53<dpkg>You can run X11 apps securely over an ssh connection without <xhost> nor X TCP support. Enable X11Forwarding _on the remote server_ (/etc/ssh/sshd_config) and install xauth on both the client and the server. Then "ssh -X" from the client and run X apps on the remote machine. See also <root x>, <cygwin sshx>, <3hosts sshx>.
15:53<mycae>thanks, but I am doing that (see the paste)
15:53<mycae>It says "debug2: X11 forwarding request accepted on channel 0"
15:54<mycae>then doesn't work thereafter
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16:12<rryoumaa>all of a sudden, feh no longer displays images on the screen. the action commands work, so it is running, but nothing shows.
16:12<rryoumaa>how do i debug this?
16:14<rryoumaa>if i do a stat on /usr/bin/feh, it shows that it has not changed
16:15<centrx>"The action commands" ?
16:16<rryoumaa>feh has commands you can bind to keys
16:16<rryoumaa>i guess you don't use feh?
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16:17<centrx>I just use it to open image files and press the Left and Right arrows
16:17<rryoumaa>in any case, resetting x fixed it
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16:28<mycae>OK, so the solution is that gdm3 by default blocks X11 connections from not localhost. On the local machine I changed /etc/gdm3/daemon.conf, and then had to reboot (http://www.softpanorama.org/Xwindows/Troubleshooting/can_not_open_display.shtml)
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16:31<ompaul>!ops wrong network but some of you are in both please see freenode #d sorry if you don't have the access but the bot has been ... altered
16:31<dpkg>ompaul: that's too long
16:31<ompaul>lovely
16:32<ompaul>!ops wrong network please see freenodes #d
16:32*ompaul looses it
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16:34<Apollo>ompaul: what happened?
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16:35<mycae>wait no
16:35<ompaul>Apollo: fun troll was muted
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16:38<ompaul>dpkg bad bot
16:38<dpkg>:(
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16:39<ompaul>so the same fool is in #d-n
16:39<ompaul>likely to visit here
16:39<ompaul>!ops
16:39<dpkg>Please invoke 'dpkg: ops $problem' to call the operators to deal with a specific problem. Misuse of this will lead to a ban. Operators can also be contacted in the #debian-ops channel.
16:39<ompaul>!ops oncle in d-o
16:39*ompaul wonders
16:40<sney>floodserv got him anyway
16:40*Apollo waits for the fun to start here
16:40*Apollo grabs popcorn
16:40<ompaul>sney: it's painful
16:40<centrx>dpkg is like broken
16:40<dpkg>centrx: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
16:40<centrx>dpkg: bad bot
16:40<dpkg>:(
16:40<ompaul>dpkg: tell centrx about self tell ;-)
16:40<ompaul>of course you don't dear
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17:00<mycae>OK, so I am a bit further - the problem that caused "cannot open display" is that the loopback adaptor was down
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17:01<mycae>now I get "X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication". xauth list shows that there is some content in .Xauthority. I've tried wiping it, and checked the permissins - what else can cause this?
17:01<RoyK>mycae: the loopback adaptor should always be up
17:01<mycae>it wasn't
17:01<mycae>I don't know wy
17:01<mycae>I don't know why
17:01<mycae>bringing it up changed the output of ifconfig
17:02<mycae>and allowed telnet to not fail instantly
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17:04<ompaul>mycae: you using a virtual machine?
17:04<mycae>no
17:04<mycae>I have two machines, physically connected via a cable. both are running testing
17:05<mycae>one is headless
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17:08<ompaul>telnet should fail
17:08<ompaul>you shouldn't run telnet it is what one can only call dangerous in this day and age
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17:11<mycae>its a local network. there is no issue
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17:11<mycae>there is no internet
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17:11<mycae>telnet should not fail, because this is exactly how X11 forwarding works
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17:19<ompaul>hang on
17:20<ompaul>is telnetd and telnet installed on the correct boxes?
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17:23<mycae>look, this is away from the problem.
17:23<mycae>the issue is an xauth issue somewhere
17:24<mycae>it looks like the latest GDM effs about with xauthority files
17:24<mycae>and breaks everything
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17:28<mycae>OK, it appears to be bug 586685 :(
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17:28<mycae>Xforwarding with gdm3 is just broken
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17:49<Leftmost>I'm attempting to install fglrx-modules-dkms on amd64, but consistently get an error about "Relocatable linking with relocations from format elf32-i386 ... to format elf64-x86-64 ... is not supported". Any ideas how I can fix this?
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17:55<phillipsjk>Leftmost, sounds like you need to look for the Amd64 version of the fglrx-modules.
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17:57<Osiris_X>how do I manually trigger apt's post-installation gconf2 processing?
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17:59<Brigo>Osiris_X, try dpkg-reconfigure package
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18:00<Osiris_X>Brigo: so understand that if it was gconf2 being installed, but it's processing seems to also be triggered by the installation of other packages too
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18:01<Brigo>Osiris_X, i am not sure, but could be.
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18:03<Leftmost>Hmm. Trying to install that tells me that the system install is i386, but fglrx's make.log is pulling in amd64 headers.
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18:04<Osiris_X>Brigo: seems to work, so thanks
18:04<Brigo>Osiris_X, good guessing :-)
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18:05<sda>hi all, is there a remote desktop "server" that will act like RDP? Be able to login and logoff to the current session reconnect and lock the computer on local? thanks
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18:06<Osiris_X>Brigo: for me the interesting thing is if you execute the command through a remote terminal it fails to connect to the D-BUS daemon with the error X11 initialization failed - I'm wondering how to solve that
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18:07<Brigo>i looks like a bug
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18:08<Osiris_X>Brigo: interesting - I never thought about it in those terms - I'll write it up
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18:22<chrishell>hello out there, I made some changes on my grub-default
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18:23<chrishell>but it is now little bit more complex with this submenus
18:24<chrishell>I want to boot the second kernel in the first menu
18:24<chrishell>by counting from zero
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18:25<chrishell>is it something like GRUB_DEFAULT=1>2 or GRUB_DEFAULT="1>2" ?
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18:25<ncl>change the order in the actual grub.cfg maybe?
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18:25<ncl>or the script used to write it
18:25<sney>grub.cfg gets overwritten any time update-grub is run, but something in /etc/grub.d or /etc/default/grub should do it
18:26<chrishell>I changed only /etc/default/grub!
18:26<chrishell>there I made this changes as mentioned
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18:27<chrishell>cause GRUB_DEFAULT=2 does nothing
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18:27<chrishell>all the kernels are now in a submenu
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18:27<chrishell>https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Submenus
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18:34<frv_>chrishell: did you make update-grub after chaging default ?
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18:37<chrishell>frv_: yes I did, but without the knowledge of submenus
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18:37<chrishell>means I just wrote GRUB_DEFAULT=2
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18:38<chrishell>and then of course update-grub
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18:41<Osiris_X>chrishell: did you actually try setting GRUB_DEFAULT="1>2" in /etc/default/grub as indicated by https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Submenus#Setting_a_Submenu_entry_as_the_default ?
18:41<Osiris_X>... and then doing an update-grub
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18:41<chrishell>not yet, but I do it now
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18:42<raptor_systems>hey just setting up a web dev environment from home, I've checked iptables, and apache but I was wondering if there is anything else that may be blocking http traffic from being sent to other networks?
18:42<chrishell>if Im not comming back, I need another boot-volume
18:42<Osiris_X>of course this assumes your submenu is at position 1 (starting at 0)
18:43<chrishell>Osiris_X: it is, this is the default with debian sid
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18:43<Osiris_X>raptor_systems: pgld / peerguardian?
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18:43<Osiris_X>raptor_systems: or indeed moblocker and such things
18:44<Osiris_X>although you should have seen entries related to theses softwares in iptables
18:44<raptor_systems>just checking if they are installed >.>
18:44<raptor_systems>yeah not seeing it :/
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18:46<chrishell>it worked!
18:46<Osiris_X>chrishell: excellent
18:46<chrishell>with the desired kernel
18:46<chrishell>:)
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18:47<raptor_systems>^.^
18:47<Osiris_X>raptor_systems: so are you saying the requests are successfully reaching your apache2 server?
18:47<Osiris_X>but it is not able to respond
18:48<raptor_systems>I'm able to access the server over the local network, outside of that I'm not sure how far the requests are getting
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18:48<Osiris_X>raptor_systems: presumable local network here means same subnet on a home router
18:49<raptor_systems>yes
18:49<Osiris_X>raptor_systems: and by other networks, what do you mean? over the internet?
18:49<raptor_systems>yes
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18:49<Osiris_X>raccoon: have you checked your router allows such connections?
18:49<echelon>ok, why does dnsutils require me to install bind9?
18:49<Osiris_X>raptor_systems: have you checked your router allows such connections?
18:50<raptor_systems>yes
18:50<raptor_systems>I have port 2222 map to port 80 in the NAT
18:50<Osiris_X>echelon: it should not require the complete bidn9 server
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18:50<raptor_systems>and I have used nodejs before with the same setup
18:50<echelon>oh
18:50<raptor_systems>(well on windows but I don't want to go there)
18:50<echelon>Osiris_X: what's bind9-host and libbind9-80
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18:51<Osiris_X>echelon: probably a library
18:51<Osiris_X>yes like those
18:51<echelon>hmm
18:51<Osiris_X>this is not the complete bind9 server
18:51<Osiris_X>no need to worr
18:51<Osiris_X>worry
18:51<echelon>k
18:51<Osiris_X>if I am not mistate biknd9-host is the host command!
18:51<echelon>ah
18:52<echelon>why do i need host when i'm just trying to install dig
18:52<echelon>who makes up these dependencies
18:52<Osiris_X>echelon: I can only assume they share a codebase or that dig makes use of host - it is unlikely to be random
18:53<echelon>i'll take your word for it
18:53<Osiris_X>host is the bog standard dns search tool
18:53<Osiris_X>and it is tiny
18:54<Osiris_X>raptor_systems: so port 2222 external maps to 80 internal
18:54<Osiris_X>raptor_systems: does your router log traffic?
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18:55<raptor_systems>unfortunately not, just setting up a wireshark filter
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18:56<Osiris_X>raptor_systems: ok well I was going to suggest 1st ensuring the requests are getting through, but it appears you are doing that
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18:57<Osiris_X>raptor_systems: but it should also be noted that I don't think apache2 serves pages on port 80 by default (only receives request)
18:58<raptor_systems>hmm
18:59<Osiris_X>raptor_systems: I believe it switches to a non-privileged port for that
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18:59<Osiris_X>raptor_systems: if you do something like netstat -a while the connections are made - it should become apparent
19:00<Osiris_X>raptor_systems: just to check: you are not using something like squid are you?
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19:00<raptor_systems>don't even have squid installed atm
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19:03<raptor_systems>I know I can connect remotely with SSH
19:04<Osiris_X>to port 2222?
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19:05<raptor_systems>to port 222
19:06<Osiris_X>for which you have setup a NAT rule in the same ways as for apache?
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19:06<raptor_systems>I'm seeing the port 80 requests go through
19:07<raptor_systems>yes
19:07<Osiris_X>do you see the apache server trying to establish a connetion ona non-privileged port?
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19:08<raptor_systems>a 200 is sent on a non privledge port but that port changes per request
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19:10<Osiris_X>raptor_systems: hmmm can you test whether that 200 is received by your remote host?
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19:11<raptor_systems>hmm actually not sure what that 200 is for
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19:12<raptor__>oh sorry that 200 was related to an internal connection
19:12<Osiris_X>why? do you have more than 1 http connection from that remote system coming into your apache server?
19:12<raptor__>yeah I know
19:12<raptor__>I have no idea
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19:13<Osiris_X>run netstst -a
19:13<Osiris_X>and pastebin the result
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19:14<Osiris_X>check for privacy breaches before posting of course
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19:15<raptor__>http://paste.debian.net/86139/
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19:17<Osiris_X>raptor__: do any of the Foreign addresses correspond to your remote system?
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19:18<raptor__>I'm on the system that I'm attempting to use for web development
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19:21<Osiris_X>raptor__: the remote system?
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19:22<raptor__>I'm using my phone so I'm not entirely sure
19:22<Osiris_X>all I'm trying to understand is if you have successfully established a non-privileged connection between the 2 systems in question
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19:22<raptor__>*nods*
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19:22<Osiris_X>because if that is the case it is almost certainly a server config challenge
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19:24<raptor__>:/
19:24<Osiris_X>raptor__: as a matter of course you should check to see that all the necessary modules are enabled in apache2
19:25<raptor__>other than common, bin, utils and php which other ones are necessary?
19:26<Osiris_X>sudo a2dismod to see which modules are enabled (then ctrl + c to avoid disabling anything)
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19:27<raptor__>"lias auth_basic authn_file authz_default authz_groupfile authz_host authz_user autoindex cgi deflate dir env mime negotiation php5 reqtimeout setenvif status"
19:27<Osiris_X>raptor__: I'm not familiar with webdav, but doesn't some kind of webdav module need to be enables for it to work
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19:28<raptor__>thinking that it probably would be good for my partner to just tunnel via ssh or something
19:28<Osiris_X>raptor__: a module like mod_dav :D
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19:29<raptor__>oh I don't want to have files editable
19:29<raptor__>just so they can render the pages I'm working on
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19:30<Osiris_X>raptor__: then you don't actually need webdav? if the files are not editable, how do you get the pages onto the webserver?
19:30<Osiris_X>raptor__: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/mod/mod_dav.html
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19:31<raptor__>since the webserver is the same system I'm using for development >.>
19:31<raptor__>well
19:31<raptor__>actually what I mean is
19:32<raptor__>I'm developing on my local machine and then eventually will push to a server over sftp
19:32<ivan_>list
19:32<Osiris_X>raptor__: I'm no longer understanding the purpose of webdav in your setup
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19:33<echelon>how do i uninstall xinetd
19:33<raptor__>I have no use for webdab
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19:34<raptor__>webdav*
19:34<echelon>oh, i see it nvm
19:34<raptor__>:D
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19:35<Osiris_X>raptor__: hmmm looking back at the history clearly I have mis interpreted Web dev for webdav
19:36<Osiris_X>raptor__: if you enable the status module for apache2 can you access the status page remotely?
19:37<Osiris_X>raptor__: if yes, then maybe it is a permissions problem on the directory you are trying to serve (and/or a problem with the apache config for that directory)
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19:39<raptor__>just looking for the status module
19:40<Osiris_X>raptor__: it's a standard module, you just be able to do sudo a2enmod status
19:40<raptor__>ah ok so it is installed and enabled
19:41<raptor__>how do you access the status page?
19:41<Osiris_X>and then reload the config on the server
19:41<Osiris_X><server-address>/server-status
19:41<raptor__>thank you
19:42<Osiris_X>raptor__: but you may have to edit /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/status-conf for external access
19:42<Osiris_X>as I think it restricts it to local access by default
19:42<Osiris_X>s/status-conf/status.conf/
19:43<raptor__>yeah it is restricted to localhost by default
19:43<raptor__>just changed it to
19:43<raptor__>Order deny,allow
19:43<raptor__> Allow from all
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19:44<raptor__>http://121.45.27.14:2222/server-status ^.^
19:44<raptor__>oh wait
19:44<raptor__>yeah no connection from outside
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19:46<Osiris_X>raptor__: what version of apache2 are you using 2.2 or 2.4?
19:47<raptor__>the one which comes with wheezy stable, checking version 2.2
19:47<Osiris_X>raptor__: btw the link you posted works for me - so you external connections are working
19:47<raptor__>oh!
19:47<raptor__>^.^
19:48<Osiris_X>raptor__: syntax for access control changed in version 2.4
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19:48<raptor__>yeah it is version 2.2
19:49<raptor__>also thank you, good to know
19:49<Osiris_X>raptor__: so maybe you have some restrictions on your remote machine!
19:49<Osiris_X>if you can't see the server-status page
19:49<raptor__>well I also tried using: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/http://121.45.27.14:2222/server-status
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19:50<raptor__>but if it is working for you?
19:50<raptor__>are you an internode customer by chance?
19:50<Osiris_X>raptor__: no
19:50<raptor__>ahh ok
19:50<raptor__>just checking it wasn't the ISP doing something weird
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19:52<raptor__>anyway, thank you so much. I'll just have to wait till my friend wakes up so we can test this out :D
19:53<Osiris_X>raptor__: ok no problem
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20:52<IssacApple>Question: In Debian Squeeze I had a lot more control over bitrate ripping from my music CD's when compared to Wheezy
20:53<IssacApple>well at least with the default supplied Xbased tools. Is there a way to rip really fat -- like 500 kbps ogg music files in Wheezy?
20:54<IssacApple>Default desktop: gnome classic
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21:33<shelmed>Ok not sure if anyone can help. Have Samsung N130 netbook with dead screen, so need to use with dual monitor. Would like to boot Debian Netinst USB and install KDE Full. However dual screen is not active on both standard install and GUI install modes. Any advice appreciated.
21:36<Osiris_X>shelmed: try connecting a usb keyboard and closing the lid immediately after you press the on button - the monitor should activate
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21:36<Osiris_X>(and mouse of course)
21:37<shelmed>Oris_X: Thanks for that suggestion. Not thought of that - will give it a try
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21:39<Osiris_X>shelmed: failing that, there could be a bios option that would allow you to select the primary screen to use at boot
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21:42<shelmed>Osiris_X: Can't access the bios cause of the dead screen. There is a function key on the netbooks keyboard to switch screens but have tried that. Am typing this on the netbook now so will give your suggestion a go and hopefully let you know how I got on.
21:43<Osiris_X>shelmed: ok
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21:51<shelmed>Osiris_X: Gold star to you! Worked perfectly now looking forward to my Debian Netinst. Thanks :0)
21:52<Osiris_X>shelmed: you are welcome
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23:27<monoglets>I've installed openvpn on server, and everything works fine, but after connect by client, the external ip keep the same, how change this config and have same address as server ? sorry about my way to explain my doubt, but I have no enough tech knowledge to explain better.. could someone gentle help? thx
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