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#debian IRC Logs for 2014-03-10

---Logopened Mon Mar 10 00:00:42 2014
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00:28<corey>hello,everyone
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00:29<corey>i have just installed debian 7 and i have some problems
00:30<corey>is there anyone online?
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00:32<chealer>!tell corey about ask
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00:36<corey>i have a problem with drivers;i am running debian version 7.3&amd64, and i find official driver for
00:36<corey>GPU is not very good
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00:37<corey>where i can find better drive for my AMD GPU?
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00:40<corey>I wonder if debian support cpu auto-regulating frequency
00:40<saiyan>what is that
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00:40<Infiltrator>The on-demand governor, I think.
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00:40<saiyan>i see
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00:45<wardhan>i am downloading & compiling latest linux kernel using ketchup. i have downloaded 3.13.6 & then downloaded 3.14-rc6. do i need to downloaded all rc1 to rc5 or just rc6 is enough ?
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00:46<ch>hellow
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00:48<corey>can the sound of beep be turned off when i shut down?
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00:51<chealer>corey: which GPU do you use?
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00:51<Infiltrator>wardhan: If you want only the latest, then rc6 (assuming that it is indeed the latest) is enough.
00:52<corey>amd 6470m&6520g
00:53<wardhan>Infiltrator: yes, i need latest. kernel website is showing rc6. it seems that rc6 is released today.
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00:54<chealer>corey: which driver are you using?
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01:19<HoL>er 127.0.0.1
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01:20<corey>what does the command line "alsactl store "mean? i runned it, then reboot and find the fonts changed strangely
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01:27<centrx>corey, That should only affect alsa settings
01:29<centrx>corey, You can blacklist the pcspkr module, that should disable all beeps
01:29<corey>i tried but no use
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01:31<corey>i set the pc beep mute by alsamixer, and it truly weakens, but still have a beep sound
01:31<corey>i want the sound totally removed
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02:13<alumno>hola
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04:14<crazylogic>Hi, I have installed debian -7.4 on my system. It doesn't have chroot command. How can I install chroot command in debian?
04:15<jm_>!installit
04:15<dpkg>Your box does not come with every application, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. If someone suggests an application to you, it's highly likely that it's available via apt-get or aptitude.
04:15<jm_>so ask dpkg about search
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04:18<crazylogic>dpkg : chroot
04:18<dpkg>a way to change the root directory of a process, see also http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch09#_chroot_system
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04:21<jm_>!apt-file
04:21<dpkg>apt-file is a utility used to find which package owns a given file - or list files in a package - even if it is not installed: "aptitude install apt-file && apt-file update" ; then "apt-file search filename" to see a list of packages containing filename (can also use a regular expression; see man apt-file). You can also search online, ask me about <pdo>. See also <judd-file>, <auto-apt>, <dlocate>.
04:21<jm_>you can also use packages.debian.org web page to find it
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04:44<crazylogic>my system has coreutils installed in it and when I did 'dpkg -s coreutils' I found that it includes package chroot. but chroot is not installed in my system
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04:46<bhuddah_>did you try to execute chroot as root or as normal user?
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04:55<crazylogic>bhuddah, as normal user
04:55<bhuddah>crazylogic: as normal user you won't find those utils. only available as root. no wonder you been searching for them.
04:55<crazylogic>when I typed chroot on terminal it says command not found
04:56<bhuddah>typ sudo chroot or something like that.
04:56<bhuddah>or log in as root
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04:56<crazylogic>yeah, Thanks got it
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06:03<shad0w>hie guys, does anyone know how to setup a proxy server
06:03<bhuddah>yes
06:04<bhuddah>!ask
06:04<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
06:06<Stummi>shad0w, which kind of proxy? SOCKS? HTTP? Something else?
06:06<shad0w>okay buddah, i have a computer with 2 NICs and one is directly connected to the internet and the other connected to the switch(LAN) interface, but when i do all the setup i have seen on the internet, the computers on the LAN will not be able to browse
06:06<shad0w>Stummi Transparent proxy
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06:07<Stummi>shad0w, wouldn't it be easier to set up your computer connected to the internet as a router?
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06:07<bhuddah>do you have a basic understanding how tcp/ip works and what the iso osi layer model is?
06:08<Stummi>proxies are never fully transparent
06:08<shad0w>Stummi i wanted to setup a squid transparent proxy for a small group of people
06:08<shad0w>buddah, yes i do
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06:09<bhuddah>so you are certain you don't just want to enable routing on this host?
06:09<Stummi>squid proxies arn't transparent
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06:09<Stummi>thats, because they are squid proxies
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06:10<shad0w>buddah, the problem is i have never setup a proxy before and i have been tasked to, i wanted it to act as a router together with the squid proxy
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06:10<shad0w>stummi, what are they? throughout the internet i've been reading about the squid proxy
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06:11<bhuddah>you can set up the proxy to be transparent. but you can also require the users to set up the proxy in their browser.
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06:11<Stummi>squid proxies are proxies caching http sites
06:11<Stummi>bhuddah, if a user has to set up a proxy in his client, isn't this the opposite of "transparent"?
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06:12<Stummi>oh wait, I misread your statement
06:12<bhuddah>Stummi: yes. but there is also a way to set up squid as transparent proxy
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06:13<Stummi>hm, how can I imagine this? A router grepping out HTTP-Traffic via DPI and sending a cached response if available?
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06:13<bhuddah>http://www.deckle.co.uk/squid-users-guide/transparent-caching-proxy.html
06:13<ph0b0s>shad0w: first you have to setup the box to act as a router by bridging the two nic's together through /etc/network/interfaces. then you have to preroute all traffic coming through this box to the other machines in your lan with iptables. if everything works till there, then you can setup squid and make it transparent by forwarding ports 80 and 443 through it, again with iptables
06:14<bhuddah>Stummi: http traffic is route redirected to squid. squid just acts as a general reverse proxy to the internet.
06:14<shad0w>buddah, been to that site
06:14<Stummi>okay
06:14<bhuddah>like ph0b0s said.. that's what you gotta do. should work. i had that running in the past.
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06:15<bhuddah>though you can't to user auth then. because of that i switched to the real proxy config and have the users enter it in the browser.
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06:15<shad0w>ph0bos, that's exactly what i want...can you cake me through it or a page i can use
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06:15<bhuddah>shad0w: the page i linked does exactly that.
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06:17<shad0w>Okay, thank you guys, any recommendations of the best OS because i was using debian wheezy recently
06:18<bhuddah>maybe ipcop is the best for you... all pre built and ready to use. ideal for an "appliance"
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06:18<bhuddah>or IPFire
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06:20<shad0w>let me try what you all said guys and please stay online, i really need your help because i need to get it running in 2hrs at most
06:23<ph0b0s>shad0w: about the first two steps, i can't find the links i used i don't have them bookmarked but a simple googling wil take you there. as bhuddah said you can use ipcop or something simillar it could be easier to visualize the rules.
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06:24<alumno>08584+
06:24<ph0b0s>shad0w: does this box have monitor and keyboard attached or are you working headless?
06:24<shad0w>Okay, let me get busy
06:25<shad0w>it does have both
06:25<ph0b0s>shad0w: ok
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06:26<shad0w>ph0b0s: i have never set up one before so please be patient on me, i might ask childish questions
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06:26<bhuddah>good luck :)
06:26<alumno>02514
06:26<alumno>3
06:27<bhuddah>alumno: 7
06:27<alumno>jajajja
06:27<alumno>GBCLLL
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06:35<none_>ipcop is a linux distorbution? does it need to be run into a seperate box on a network?
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06:37<knives47z>Is anyone here familiar with using digital forensics tools?
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06:38<Stummi>knives47z, can you be more specific?
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06:39<knives47z>Stummi, scalpel. I was wondering if anyone knew how to use scalpel. I'm sort of experimenting with it at the moment but can't seem to get it to work properly
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06:40<Stummi>I have no idea from scalpel, but if you think the manpage is not helpfull, you should file a bugreport
06:40<Stummi>(plus what you find under /usr/share/docs/scalpel)
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07:39<heday>Hi all, is there a way I can perform a cross-compilation packaging for the raspberry pi in my debian x86 (without having to use qemu)?
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08:03<jm_>heday: have you lookoed at emdebian site?
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08:06<heday>jm_: no, never heard of
08:06<jm_>!emdebian
08:06<dpkg>Emdebian is a binary distribution for embedded devices. It is created by the Embedded Debian project, an official Debian sub-project, which aims to make Debian GNU/Linux a mainstream choice for embedded projects. http://wiki.debian.org/Embedded_Debian http://www.emdebian.org/ #emdebian on irc.oftc.net.
08:06<jm_>they have cross toolchains available
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08:07<heday>jm_: that sounds great! I am checking the website now
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09:42<rfree>hi, still there is no normall way to reinstall debian, preserving /home, on luks+lvm setup?
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09:42<rfree>other then http://consolematt.wordpress.com/2013/06/19/reinstalling-debian-on-existing-lukslvm-partition/ ?
09:42<willemb>Hi. I have been following all documentation I could find to the letter, but I just cannot get exim to do starttls
09:43<willemb>i keep getting SMTP>> 454 TLS currently unavailable on the client, and cert/key setup: cert=/etc/exim4/exim.crt key=/etc/exim4/exim.key): Error while reading file. on the server
09:43<willemb>file permissions do seem to be right
09:43<willemb>and the certificates where genereated with exim4-gencert
09:44<willemb>some help would really be appreciated
09:44<petn-randall>rfree: Pick expert mode, it should work out of the box there.
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09:45<petn-randall>willemb: "seem right" ... can you access those files with the user exim4 runs under?
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09:45<willemb>yes
09:45<shad0w>phob0s
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09:46<petn-randall>willemb: Is exim4 maybe running in a chroot?
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09:46<shad0w>hi guys, how do setup 2 NICs in /etc/network/interface
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09:46<shad0w>one connects to the internet and the other to the LAN
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09:47<willemb>petn-randall: nope
09:48<petn-randall>willemb: Check if you can increase the log file verbosity, then paste the results to http://paste.debian.net for us to see.
09:49<willemb>petn-randall: I can run it in foreground mode and paste the output for you
09:49<petn-randall>willemb: That works for me, too. Make sure to include the output where you try STARTTLS.
09:50<willemb>http://paste.debian.net/86856/
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09:50<willemb>does that help at all
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09:54<petn-randall>willemb: Check if you can access the files in bash as the user. It may be that the directory doesn't have the right permissions. If that works, your key/cert may be corrupted.
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09:58<willemb>http://paste.debian.net/86859/
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09:59<willemb>thats the thing. i wonder if /usr/share/doc/exim4-base/examples/exim-gencert is generating corrupt certificates
09:59<willemb>maybe a problem with gnutls?
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10:00<willemb>petn-randall: check that last paste, all looks good, right?
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10:04<lamb>mornings
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10:06<willemb>ok, i've gotta go
10:07<willemb>will pick this up again in the mornging
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10:40<petn-randall>willemb: You may want to scrap that private key now.
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10:41<petn-randall>willemb: Cert and key look valid, though.
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10:42<petn-randall>willemb: I'm don't have experience with exim4 (I'm a postfix person), but if everything else fails, start it with strace to check which files it actually tries to open.
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10:54<Guest2804>Hello all, I have a enteral and a external wifi I prefer to use the external wifi adapter to the enteral, is there a way I can turn off the enteral
10:54<deux>hi, i need help as i'm not able to install the new debian kernel
10:55<Guest2804>Without turning off the external as we'll?
10:55<deux>i have enough HDD space, but for some reason it keeps complaining about not having enough space
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10:57<Guest2804>Sorry I have enteral and external wifi, I would rather use the external, is there a way to turn off the enternal wifi with out turnoff the external?
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10:58<petn-randall>!tell deux about bat
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10:59<petn-randall>Guest2804: If it's a laptop, you can usually deactivate it with a hardware switch or a keyboard combo.
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11:01<Guest2804>Petn-Randall the only way I know to do it would be though system settings, but that turns them both off. Sorry little new to linux
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11:02<Guest2804>Sorry petn-Randall I was disconnected I was the one asking about wifi
11:03<deux>sorry about that, here's my pastebin
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11:03<deux>http://paste.debian.net/86867/
11:04<planetmaker>sure that the system partition is big enough?
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11:05<planetmaker>deux, what's the output of df -h
11:06<petn-randall>deux: Looks like you're running testing anyway. That's supported in #debian-next.
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11:06<deux>here you go http://paste.debian.net/86870/
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11:08<shafeeque>hellow
11:08<neo1691>hello shafeeque
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11:10<shafeeque>hellow neo
11:11<deux>does anyone know how to help me? http://paste.debian.net/86867 http://paste.debian.net/86870/
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11:12<petn-randall>deux: Your root filesystem is too small. A kernel is about 200 MB in /lib/modules/, you only have 104 MB free.
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11:12<deux>so how come the last kernel installed without problems?
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11:13<deux>and is there a way to fix it?
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11:13<sney>remove an old kernel, or mount /lib on a partition that has some more space
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11:14<deux>ok, thank you very much for your time and effor
11:14<deux>effort
11:14<deux>have a great day
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11:32<nickgaw>Hi, Which is the easiest method for either converting my entire debian stable system to live on a DVD for a live rescue system or for building my own debian DVD with packages I wish to be installed not where debian live decides what gets installed on my DVD?
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11:34<centrx>nickgaw, jigdo is used for creating a custom CD/DVD
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11:38<Brigo>nickgaw, and try live-debconfig too.
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11:42<docepoeta>hello ppl
11:42<Maulkin>!ask
11:42<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
11:42<docepoeta>hello
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11:47<n0a>I have a problem with moo. I'm running Debian version moo. When I try to do moo I get the following output 'bah'. I expected it to do moo.
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11:48<centrx>n0a, Have you tried apt-get moo ?
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11:49<Zathraz>I would consoider: moo-trol moo
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11:49<nickgaw>does jigdo run under console or does it require X? Can I use it to make my own live setup of my live system or build a fresh live DVD?
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11:53<nickgaw>Basically what I wish to do is take my existing running debian stable system and turn it into a squashfs and make it so I can use this system as a rescue DVD should I need to is this possible?
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12:00<Tr0n>Hey peeps, I was wondering if you need some type of software to overclock your CPU and ram?
12:00<Tr0n>And if so what is out there for debian wheezy
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12:01<Sandie>Tr0n: overclocking is usually done in BIOS
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12:02<Tr0n>Sandie I was thinking the same thing but I was looking up tutorials on the web to learn about it and I seen two of them talking about needing
12:02<Tr0n>Software
12:03<mitch_reward>no
12:03<Tr0n>Sandie thank you
12:03<mitch_reward>on a standard pc that has to be done in bios
12:03<Tr0n>Just a dell laptop
12:03<mitch_reward>overcloking and make to to increase voltage for stability
12:03<Tr0n>I was thinking the bios as we'll like sandie said
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12:04<mitch_reward>you propably can't overclock a dell labtop, not sure but
12:04<Sandie>theres windows software from some manufacturers to make it easier but nothing open source
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12:04<Sandie>and probably shouldnt on a laptop
12:05<Tr0n>Sandie maybe that was what they was talking about and I just misunderstood
12:05<Tr0n>Sandie thank you so much, and thank you to the others
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12:05<Sandie>no problem
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12:06<Tr0n>Sandie have a good day :)
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12:06<mitch_reward>hey guys am looking for an irc channel with active threads on linux project and network
12:06<mitch_reward>any ideas?
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12:07<Maulkin>mitch_reward: Do you mean the kernel, or general gnu/linux ecosystem?
12:09<mitch_reward>Maulkin, both but general gnu/linux'll be fine as well
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12:15<mitch_reward>so nobody know?
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12:16<mtn>mitch_reward: try ##linux on the freenode server
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12:17<mitch_reward>mtn, thanks
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13:00<dani>hola
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13:09<unclescratchie>is there a channel for Blender? I cant find one
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13:10<centrx>unclescratchie, Try on Freenode
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13:10<sney>unclescratchie: seems theres #blenderchat and #blenderqa on freenode
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13:10<unclescratchie>thanks
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13:31<wapaolo>hi, is there anyone here?
13:32<wapaolo>i need a hand with debian installation
13:32<mtn>wapaolo: explain your problem/question
13:33<wapaolo>hi mtn, i downloaded from debian.org a file called boot.img.gz , that should be the usb installer
13:33<wapaolo>once i reset the pc and booted from usb, the pc freezes and doesn't continue
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13:34<wapaolo>maybe i downloaded the wrong installer?
13:34<mtn>wapaolo: you want to get the netinstall image
13:34<mtn>wapaolo: https://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/
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13:34<wapaolo>i want to get a usb installer.. i don't know if i'm able to install in your way.. :\
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13:34<mtn>wapaolo: yes, that image can be installed to usb
13:35<mtn>wapaolo: that is how I always install debian
13:35<musca>!usb install
13:35<dpkg>You can install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key on x86 systems, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide, see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03 and ask me about <install debian> for hybrid CD/DVD images. Use http://sf.net/projects/win32diskimager/ to write images from Windows. For BIOSes not capable of USB boot, ask me about <plop>.
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13:35<wapaolo>so now i have to download that image from your link, put in in my usb drive and reset my pc, right?
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13:36<wapaolo>oh so i have to use that win32diskimager for formatting my usb pen?
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13:36<mtn>wapaolo: if you are on windows
13:36<wapaolo>y i am
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13:37<zeon>wapaolo: indeed, alternatively you can use unetbootin on windows
13:37<musca>!hybrid iso
13:37<dpkg>Since the 6.0 "Squeeze" release, Debian installation images for x86 systems - e.g. <netinst>, <CD1>, DVD1 - are hybrid images. These can be written directly to CD or HD Media (e.g. USB thumbdrive) without further preparation. See http://www.debian.org/News/project/2010/14/#hybrid for details. See also <install debian>, <usb install>.
13:37<musca>!win32diskimager
13:37<dpkg>win32diskimager is much more reliable than <unetbootin> for copying ISO images to USB sticks and you can download it from http://sf.net/projects/win32diskimager/ . Adjust the file mask from *.img to *.* if it doesn't show our .iso images. See <usb install> and <install debian> for further details.
13:37<wapaolo>ok thanks! i try this out and if you don't see me again here, that means that all was ok! :D
13:37<mtn>wapaolo: you don't want to use unetbootin, just stick with the windiskimager
13:37<wapaolo>really thanks, you were very clear and fast :)
13:37<mtn>wapaolo: yw
13:37<zeon>mtn= any reason why? :-)
13:38<wapaolo>ok i'll use diskimager! ;)
13:38<mtn>zeon: yep, not reliable
13:38<musca>zeon: unetbootin mangles the parts and creates its own bootmethod
13:39<zeon>didn't hear of that one until now, although i had a hideous experience today for a fresh install of debian 7.4.0 (not sure if it was unetbootin related, because all my amd64 images failed, i386 was fine)
13:39<zeon>ok, learned something then, i'll update my bookmarks :)
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13:43<nmschulte>I need a tool to play with IPMI on remote hardware; is the `ipmitool` package what I'm after, or do I need to look at `freeipmi` or `openimpi`?
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13:43<nmschulte>Oh... I see now that ipmitool leverages openpmi.
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14:59<SunRaycer>why would the radeon driver in jessie not support two newer cards that *are* supported in wheezy?
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15:14<Divayth>Hello Im having trouble creating the ~/.ssh/config file, it seems to be related to permissions. "touch ~/.ssh/config" with and without sudo fails with "No permission". ls lists the permissions "drwx------" for .ssh and "getfacl ~/.ssh" says "# file: home/e/.ssh # owner: e # group: e user::rwx group::--- other::---". "e" is my username and group. Trying to change permissions for ~/.ssh with chmod fails with "Operation is not permitted" with and wit
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15:22<musca>Divayth: permissions "drwx------" for .ssh are okay, you don't need sudo for that.
15:22<SunRaycer>missing firmware.
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15:24<musca>Divayth: do you mount your /home partition with special options?
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15:25<Divayth>I do not remember setting any such thing up. My whole system is one partition which was encrypted on installing debian
15:25<musca>ok, good.
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15:32<musca>Divayth: does the file ~/.ssh/config already exist?
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15:34<Divayth>no, musca
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15:45<bobcollins>hello
15:45<bobcollins> i am looking for a free psychomotor online training site?
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15:57<vook>Is a hosts entry on an nfs server required if using netgroups (using hostname)? I have a dns server running and functioning on my network and it includes forward and reverse lookup entries for a host, but I get "permission denied" mounting the export unless an entry is in /etc/hosts.
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15:58<vook>nsswitch includes this line : "hosts files nis dns"
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16:34<rfree>how to find out which module should be loaded for my audio driver?
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16:47<LtL>rfree: by determining the pci id of the audio device
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16:47<LtL>rfree: lspci -nn
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16:48<rfree>LtL: normaly audio works, but this is grsecurity kernel and something blocks the loading
16:49<rfree>snd_hda_intel it is
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16:53<LtL>rfree: try loading it manually
16:53<rfree>LtL: the module is loaded, there is a new line (compared to no-grsec and a bit older the default kernel)
16:54<rfree>is new line: PCI INT A -> GSI 22 (level, low) -> IRQ 22 while loading the snd_hda_intel, does this look suspicious?
16:54<LtL>rfree: i've no experience with the grsec kernel, i dont understand why it would mess with an audio module
16:55<LtL>rfree: no, doesnt look suspicious to me
16:55<rfree>LtL: it blocks certain things like auto loading modules, running executable code generated in runtime (unless toggled for given binary) and so on. How ever usually it logs such actions to dmesg and I don't see any
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16:55<LtL>rfree: where is this 'new line' located?
16:55<rfree>perhaps it's the fact that it's the higher version. What kernels is it now on normal debian wheezy exactly?
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16:56<LtL>rfree: 3.2
16:56<rfree>Right, which 3.2? uname -a on the one I use is 3.2.55
16:57-!-mode/#debian [+l 697] by debhelper
16:58<LtL>rfree: im not sure
16:59<rfree>ok, only root can see audio card. alsamixer as root shows the expected controlls, as non-root shows dummy card
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17:02<LtL>judd: kernels
17:02<judd>Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.14-rc5-686-pae (3.14~rc5-1~exp1); sid: 3.13-1-686-pae (3.13.5-1); jessie: 3.12-1-686-pae (3.12.9-1); wheezy-backports: 3.12-0.bpo.1-686-pae (3.12.9-1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.54-2); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.2.51-1~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-48squeeze4)
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17:05<LtL>rfree: you'll need to hack that somehow
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17:07<rfree>LtL: ok it was by design, I just need to tweak some options in grsec; thanks
17:08<xbytemx>kernel on sid has been building with nftables support?
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17:30<alejandro>qwert
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17:32<Caelum>I heard the 'head -1' syntax is now deprecated, will it actually get removed at some point?
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17:34<dondelelcaro>Caelum: it's just obsolete according to the info documentation
17:35<dondelelcaro>Caelum: I would avoid it if possible in new scripts, but I don't think it'll go away
17:35<Caelum>dondelelcaro: I see, thank you!
17:36<dondelelcaro>Caelum: no problem; I'm not a coreutils developer, though, so what I'm saying isn't gospel
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17:36<dondelelcaro>Caelum: but given the number of things I've seen using head -1 et al, I doubt it will go away
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17:40<Megaf>Hi all. When I put a URL of a website that's hosted on my LAN it will only show my routers configuration page, due to this NAT stuff, what can I do to fix that?
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17:41<LtL>Megaf: first never allow access to the router from the WAN, second, use port forwarding
17:42<LtL>Megaf: access meaning the router config
17:42<Megaf>sorry, I think I wasnt clear enough
17:42<Megaf>Hi all. When I put a URL (on a computer on my LAN) of a website that's hosted on my LAN it will only show my routers configuration page, due to this NAT stuff, what can I do to fix that?
17:42<Megaf>It works well from outside, even my virtual hosts
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17:46<Megaf>Thanks anyway
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17:47<atze>did you try it using the ip instead of the url?
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17:49<Megaf>if I use WAN IP it happens the same
17:49<Megaf>if I use the local IP it works
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17:51<atze>so the web interface of your router is accesible on WAN?
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17:51<Megaf>nope
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17:52-!-us`0gb is "0gb.us" on #oftc #moocows #debian-offtopic #debian-next #debian #
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17:54<Megaf>Hey us`0gb
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17:55<us`0gb>Hey Megaf!
17:57<atze>sorry.. no idea.. I have 3 computers, one running a VM witch apache and no trouble accessing it.. i didn't have to configure anything on my router for that to work
17:57<Megaf>I didnt know you joined here too
17:57<atze>*with
17:57<Megaf>atze, Yep, my old Linksys ADSL router wouldnt cause me any trouble too]
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17:58<Megaf>atze, This si my issue well described, http://opensimulator.org/wiki/NAT_Loopback_Routers
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17:58<Megaf>"Many DSL routers/modems prevent loopback connections as a security feature. This means that a machine on your local network (e.g. behind your DSL router/modem) cannot connect to a forward facing IP address (such as 199.149.252.44) of a machine that it also on your local network. Connecting to the local IP address (such as 192.168.2.40) of that same machine works fine. "
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17:59<us`0gb>Yeah, I started joining this channel when I switched my system to Debian.
18:00<Megaf>cool
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18:00<atze>good choice us`0gb ;)
18:00<michel__>testing
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18:00<michel__>me a ghost?
18:01<us`0gb>Debian seems to be the freest I can find. Free is always a good choice.
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18:01<michel__>im using xubuntu
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18:01<michel__>im learning what debian even means
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18:01<towo`>than this is the wron channel for you
18:02<michel__>i dunno
18:02<towo`>here is debian, not $ubuntu
18:02<us`0gb>Xubuntu is probably what I would recommend to most people. I'm using the Xfce edition of Debian though.
18:02<michel__>i just clicked on the chat in the menu
18:02<michel__>i didnt use chanserv or nicksev
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18:03<michel__>not that i wanna
18:03<us`0gb>By "most people", I should say "people new to GNU/Linux".
18:03<michel__>irvc is not my style
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18:03<ea>Hello, is there any chance to recover a partition table / data if 1 gb is overwritten with dd on a ssd?
18:03<michel__>yes
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18:03<michel__>well depends
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18:04<us`0gb>Try testdisk. It's a start.
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18:04<michel__>gparted?
18:04<us`0gb>You may be able to recover some files with it.
18:04<michel__>works for me
18:04<michel__>it helps getting lost paritions
18:04<ea>I am trying gparted now
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18:04<ea>i mean testdisk
18:04<towo`>since when gparted do recovering of lost partitions
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18:05<ea>so far it found a lot of partitions...but I doubt any of them is needed
18:05<ea>*testdisk
18:05<michel__>i dunno when i intall it it talks about its able to find lost paritiopns
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18:06<ea>another thing - what are buffers?
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18:06<ea>whats the difference from cache?
18:06<ea>briefly... I have 10 gigs of buffers now :D
18:07<michel__>wowsers
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18:07<michel__>buffers are temp files right?
18:08<michel__>lol i use to be a windows dumbass
18:08<ea>thats what I am asking
18:08<michel__>xubuntu is new to me
18:08<ea>what is buffers...
18:08<michel__>and ubuntu i didnt like it cuz it was slow
18:08<ea>I have 12 gigs of ram, and 11 gigs are buffers, not cache which is new to me
18:09<us`0gb>I didn't like Ubuntu for its wacky menus. But yeah, it was also slow.
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18:09<michel__>as i say i dunno much i know it are temp files
18:09<michel__>and u tel lu have like 11 of 12 some thing aint right
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18:09<michel__>i have to read more
18:09<michel__>i travel blind
18:10<michel__>so dont mind me
18:10<michel__>im exploring
18:10<ea>I think it's testdisk...
18:10<ea>reading the whole sdd into ram
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18:10<michel__>lol i have a old beast i dont even know what my working ram is atm
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18:11<ea>and the ssd in question is pci-e raid0 from ocz..so around 600-700 MBps
18:11<ea>:D
18:11<michel__>i try to instal skype on a ubuntu but didnt work
18:12<michel__>so i try the debian version and skype works
18:12<michel__>debian..gnome..xcfe...its all abracadabrsa to me
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18:13<michel__>lol u ppl might as well talk latin to me
18:13<michel__>me dunno shit
18:13<michel__>rofls
18:14<centrx>!enter
18:14<dpkg>The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel.
18:14<michel__>i know i can google it
18:14<michel__>!beer
18:14<dpkg>i heard beer is liquid gold mate
18:14<michel__>cheers
18:14<ea>!women
18:14<dpkg>rumour has it, women is woman > 1, or HOWTO Encourage Women in Linux : http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html_single/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO.html, or http://xkcd.com/322/ . Also ask me about <debian women>.
18:14<ea>:D
18:14<michel__>lol @ roumor
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18:15<michel__>get a woman bot
18:15<michel__>!puss
18:15<michel__>to bad
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18:15<michel__>puss is best bot ever
18:15<dondelelcaro>michel__: please stop. If you don't have a Debian question, please leave.
18:15<us`0gb>My sister is a woman, and she uses Mint.
18:16<oldlaptop>dpkg is not a toy
18:16<dpkg>oldlaptop: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
18:16<michel__>where i hang there use to be alowed mirc
18:16<michel__>so we started bots on there
18:16<michel__>puss acts like a pet cat
18:16<michel__>but can kick and ban and la tie da
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19:13<lakiluki>yo
19:13<lakiluki>sup guys
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19:54<ea>how to find out which package a file belongs to?
19:54<ncl>apt-file
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19:55<ea>ncl, thanks!
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20:00<saiyan>have you tried google?
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20:01<saiyan>apt-file would work better lol
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20:01<saiyan>apt-file doesnt work in my terminal?
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20:04<centrx>dpkg: tell saiyan about doesn't work
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20:09<saiyan>huh?
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20:17<saiyan>oh
20:17<saiyan>I meant
20:17<saiyan>it says command not found
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20:21<saiyan>I dont get why so many people enter and leave without saying anything
20:21<saiyan>nevermind
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20:23<dvs>saiyan: just kidding.
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20:58<rjsalts>does protecting nfs (version 4) with kerberos encrypt the communication, or just sign?
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21:00<rjsalts>ah, so it's a symmetric key based on your ticket?
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21:28<saiyan>no one replied to you how did you find your answer
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21:30<centrx>lol
21:30<centrx>saiyan, It works best if you try to figure things out yourself and then ask on IRC when you hit a real snag.
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21:34<centrx>!ops Private message spam from awaay_
21:34<dpkg>Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: centrx complains about: Private message spam from awaay_
21:34<rjsalts>does anyone know a reliable debian mirror? ftp.au.debian.org is broken, http.debian.net is broken, ftp.us.debian.org is broken, ...
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21:35<centrx>rjsalts, Are you sure?
21:36<rjsalts>they've copied Release/Packages.(gz|xz|bz2) before the files in pool
21:36<rjsalts>centrx: so you get 42 updates available but they're all 404s
21:36<centrx>rjsalts, Try http.debian.net again
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22:08<isosceles>hey folks. i would like to autostart an application minimized to tray. the app does not have a "start in tray" option, although it does have a "close to tray" option which requires clicking the 'x'. is there a command to click this button? i am running openbox (crunchbang waldorf)
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23:34<loudno1ses>hello all
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23:38<centrx>Ahoy
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23:39*sney waves
23:40*saiyan flicks everyone off
23:40<saiyan>jk
23:40<sney>rude
23:41<saiyan>I would never do such an evil deed
23:41<loudno1ses>lol
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